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WELCOME TO THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE SHASTA COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS. TODAY IS TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 15TH, AND THE TIME IS 9 A .M. WE HAVE ALL BOARD MEMBERS PRESENT, ALONG WITH CEO DAVE RICKERT, COUNSEL JOE LARMER, AND FROM THE CLERK OF THE BOARD'S OFFICE, STEPHANIE BLANKENSHIP AND MARCY WINSTEAD. OUT IN THE FOYER, WE HAVE MIRANDA ANGEL. I'LL NOW TURN THE MEETING OVER TO MS. BLANKENSHIP TO REVIEW OUR BOARD RULES OF ORDER. THANK YOU.
THROUGH THE CHAIR, I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND EVERYONE IN ATTENDANCE TODAY OF THE BOARDROOM RULES OF ORDER AS OUTLINED IN ADMINISTRATIVE POLICY 1 -101, WHICH CAN BE FOUND ONLINE THROUGH THE CLERK OF THE BOARD'S WEBSITE. THESE RULES INCLUDE SIGNAGE, RESTRICTIONS, SEATING, AND CONDUCT TO ENSURE BOARD BUSINESS IS CONDUCTED IN AN ORDERLY FASHION AND THAT ALL HAVE AN EQUAL OPPORTUNITY TO OBSERVE AND PARTICIPATE.
UNLESS ADDRESSING THE BOARD, ALL THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE SHALL REMAIN SEATED IN THE CHAIRS PROVIDED.
STANDING ALONG THE BACK WALL OF THE BOARDROOM IS ACCEPTABLE SO LONG AS NOBODY BLOCKS THE ENTRANCES OR EXITS. MEMBERS OF THE MEDIA ARE REQUESTED TO SET UP THEIR EQUIPMENT IN THE DESIGNATED AREA ALONG THE SOUTH WINDOWS. WE APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S COOPERATION IN MAINTAINING A PROFESSIONAL AND ACCESSIBLE ENVIRONMENT. MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WISHING TO ADDRESS THE BOARD MUST SUBMIT A SPEAKER A REQUEST TO SPEAK THROUGH THE ONLINE PUBLIC COMMENT PORTAL AT COMMENT .SHASTACOUNTY .GOV.
ON THE DAY OF THE MEETING AND CLOSES WHEN PUBLIC COMMENT ON EACH ITEM BEGINS. EACH SPEAKER IS GIVEN TWO MINUTES TO SPEAK. EXCEPT FOR SCHEDULED HEARINGS, ALL REGULAR CALENDAR ITEMS AND ITEMS PULLED FROM CONSENT FOR DISCUSSION WILL RECEIVE 20 MINUTES OF PUBLIC COMMENT.
PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD OPEN TIME WILL RECEIVE 30 MINUTES. THE FIRST HALF OF EACH PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD IS RESERVED FOR IN -PERSON SPEAKERS, WITH THE SECOND HALF BEING RESERVED FOR TELEPHONIC PARTICIPANTS, AND ANY UNUSED TIME FROM EITHER CATEGORY BEING MADE AVAILABLE TO THE OTHER.
FOR THOSE PARTICIPATING BY PHONE, THE NUMBER YOU CALL FROM MUST MATCH THE PHONE NUMBER PROVIDED DURING REGISTRATION. CALLS FROM BLOCKED, UNKNOWN, OR MISMATCHED NUMBERS CANNOT BE IDENTIFIED. THOSE CALLERS MAY LISTEN TO THE MEETING BUT WILL NOT BE CALLED UPON TO SPEAK. INDIVIDUALS WISHING TO COMMENT ON A CONSENT CALENDAR ITEM ARE ENCOURAGED TO REGISTER FOR BOTH PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD OPEN TIME AND THE SPECIFIC CONSENT CALENDAR ITEM. IF THE CONSENT CALENDAR ITEM FOR WHICH YOU REGISTERED FOR IS NOT PULLED FOR DISCUSSION, YOU WILL HAVE ONE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THE BOARD ON THAT ITEM, AS WELL AS ANY OTHER MATTER LISTED ON THE AGENDA ON CONSENT IF YOU ALSO REGISTERED FOR PUBLIC COMMENT OPEN TIME.
IF A CONSENT CALENDAR ITEM IS PULLED FOR DISCUSSION, YOU WILL NEED TO WAIT UNTIL PUBLIC COMMENT IS OPENED FOR THAT SPECIFIC ITEM BEFORE ADDRESSING THE BOARD, AS YOU WILL NOT BE PERMITTED TO SPEAK ON THE ITEM DURING PUBLIC COMMENT OPEN TIME. FOR ITEMS PULLED FROM THE CONSENT CALENDAR, ONLY THOSE REGISTERED TO SPEAK ON THAT SPECIFIC ITEM WILL BE CALLED UPON. THERE ARE NO ITEMS CURRENTLY BEING PULLED FROM CONSENT. WITH THAT, CHAIR, TODAY I'LL ACTUALLY BE TURNING THINGS OVER TO COUNCIL LARMER BEFORE GIVING THE FLOOR BACK TO YOU. MORNING, MR. CHAIRMAN AND THE BOARD. UNDER CALIFORNIA GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 54954 .2, SUBDIVISION B .2, I'M ASKING THE BOARD FOR A FOUR -FIFTH VOTE TO ADD AN ITEM FOR POSSIBLE INITIATION OF LITIGATION. THE ITEM BRINGING RISE TO THE NEED FOR THE POSSIBILITY OF LITIGATION CAME TO OUR ATTENTION AFTER THE POSTING OF THE AGENDA. OKAY, I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION. SECOND. MOTION MADE BY MYSELF, SECONDED BY SUPERVISOR CRY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? PASSES 5 -0. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, COUNTY COUNCIL LARMER. CHAIR, IF YOU COULD GIVE ME JUST ONE MOMENT.
LET ME GET THAT OPEN AND AVAILABLE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT REGISTRATION ONLINE.
OKAY, WE SHOULD BE GOOD TO GO. ALL RIGHT. TODAY'S INVOCATION IS BY PASTOR DOUG DEESE, WHO I SEE IN THE AUDIENCE, FROM NEIGHBORHOOD CHURCH OF ANDERSON AND COTTONWOOD, FOLLOWED BY THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE OF SUPERVISOR PLUMMER.
THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN, FOR THE PRIVILEGE OF THE RAIN FOR US. LET'S BOW OUR HEADS.
FATHER, YOU HAVE INSTRUCTED US TO BE STILL AND KNOW THAT YOU ARE GOD. THE WHOLE IDEA OF YOU GIVING US INTELLECT TO KNOW ALMIGHTY GOD IS A PRIVILEGE, A MARVELOUS THING.
AND SO IN KNOWING YOU, WE RECOGNIZE THAT WE'RE DEPENDENT UPON YOU. WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR ESTABLISHMENT OF GOVERNMENT AND YOUR GOOD PROVIDENCE THAT YOU WANT THINGS DONE IN ORDER AND IN PEACE.
AND SO YOU'VE COMMISSIONED THESE MEN TO DO THIS, AND WE PRAY THAT IT'S ALWAYS IN THE NAME OF GOD.
AS WE THINK ABOUT WHO YOU ARE, WE ASK YOU TO CONTINUE TO PROVIDE FOR US THINGS LIKE PEACE. WE ASK YOU TO PROVIDE FOR THESE MEN WISDOM, WHERE
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THEY WOULD SET ASIDE THEIR OWN AGENDAS FOR THE GOOD OF THE COMMUNITY, THE COUNTY OF SHASTA. WE JUST ARE THANKFUL THAT YOU'RE THAT KIND OF A GOD THAT WANTS TO GIVE US REAL UNDERSTANDING OF HOW TO BEST SERVE PEOPLE.SO DO THAT IN THE HEARTS OF THESE MEN, AND WE ALWAYS PRAY THIS IN THE NAME OF JESUS. AMEN.
PLEASE JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, PASTOR DEESE, AND THANK YOU, SUPERVISOR PLUMMER. MOVING ON.
[R1 Adopt a resolution which recognizes Russell Butler, Eligibility Specialist III, with the Health and Human Services Agency, as Shasta County’s Employee of the Month for September 2026.]
R1, ADOPT A RESOLUTION WHICH RECOGNIZES RUSSELL BUTLER ELIGIBILITY SPECIALIST 3 WITH THE HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICE AGENCY AS SHASTA COUNTY'S EMPLOYEE OF THE MONTH FOR SEPTEMBER 2026.SUPERVISOR CRY. THANK YOU, CHAIR. I WILL GO AHEAD AND READ THIS. WHEREAS THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS OF THE COUNTY OF SHASTA HAS ADOPTED THE SHASTA COUNTY EMPLOYEE RECOGNITION PROGRAM TO IDENTIFY EXCEPTIONAL EMPLOYEES WHO DESERVE TO BE RECOGNIZED AND HONORED FOR THEIR CONTRIBUTION TO COUNTY SERVICE. AND WHEREAS SUCH RECOGNITION IS GIVEN TO EMPLOYEES MEETING THE CRITERIA OF THE PROGRAM, NAMELY EXCEPTIONAL CUSTOMER SERVICE, PROFESSIONALISM, HIGH ETHICAL STANDARDS, INITIATIVE, INNOVATION, TEAMWORK, PRODUCTIVITY, AND A SERVICE AS A ROLE MODEL FOR OTHER PUBLIC EMPLOYEES.
AND WHEREAS THE SHASTA COUNTY EMPLOYEE RECOGNITION COMMITTEE HAS CONSIDERED ALL CURRENT NOMINATIONS FOR THE SHASTA COUNTY EMPLOYEE OF THE MONTH, AND WHEREAS THE EMPLOYEE RECOGNITION COMMITTEE RECOMMENDS RUSSELL BUTLER ELIGIBILITY SPECIALIST 3 IN THE SHASTA COUNTY HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES AGENCY BE SELECTED AS EMPLOYEE OF THE MONTH FOR SEPTEMBER 2026. AND WHEREAS RUSSELL BUTLER ELIGIBILITY AND WHEREAS RUSSELL BUTLER ELIGIBILITY SPECIALIST 3 IN THE SHASTA COUNTY HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES AGENCY MEETS ALL ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS PROVIDED IN CHAPTER 36 OF THE PERSONNEL RULES EMPLOYEE RECOGNITION PROGRAM AND HAS DEMONSTRATED THAT HE CONSISTENTLY EXEMPLIFIES THE BEST QUALITIES IN PUBLIC SERVICE. NOW, THEREFORE, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED THAT RUSSELL BUTLER ELIGIBILITY SPECIALIST 3 WITH THE HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES AGENCY IS HEREBY NAMED SHASTA COUNTY EMPLOYEE OF THE MONTH FOR SEPTEMBER 2026.
AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO INVITE JOHN TAYLOR TO COME FORWARD AND MAKE SOME COMMENTS.
GOOD MORNING, CHAIRMAN KELLSTROM AND FELLOW BOARD MEMBERS. JOHN TAYLOR, BRANCH DIRECTOR FOR ECONOMIC MOBILITY BRANCH OF HHSA.
TODAY, WE HAVE THE PRIVILEGE OF RECOGNIZING SOMEONE WHOSE IMPACT EXTENDS FAR BEYOND DAILY TASKS, SOMEONE WHOSE PRESENCE STRENGTHENS OUR TEAMS, UPLIFTS OUR CLIENTS, OR REMINDS US WHAT EXCEPTIONAL PUBLIC SERVICE TRULY LOOKS LIKE. WE'RE PROUD TO HONOR RUSSELL BUTLER, ELIGIBILITY SPECIALIST 3 AS THE SHASTA COUNTY EMPLOYEE OF THE MONTH.
THERE'S A WELL -KNOWN STORY ABOUT JOE MONTANA AND SUPER BOWL XXIII AGAINST THE CINCINNATI BENGALS.
WITH JUST MINUTES LEFT ON THE CLOCK, THE 49ERS NEEDED A TOUCHDOWN AND HAD TO DRIVE THE LENGTH OF THE FIELD. THE STADIUM WAS ROARING, TENSION WAS HIGH, AND EVERY PLAYER FELT THE WEIGHT OF THE MOMENT.
IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT PRESSURE, MONTANA CALMLY POINTED OUT ACTOR JOHN CANDY IN THE STANDS. INSTANTLY DIFFUSING THE TENSION AND BRINGING A SENSE OF EASE TO THE HUDDLE, THAT STEADY PRESENCE LED THEM DOWN THE FIELD TO A SUPER BOWL VICTORY. RUSSELL IS OUR JOE MONTANA. CALM, COOL, AND COLLECTED. IN THE MOST CHALLENGING SITUATIONS, AN UPSET CLIENT, A COMPLICATED CASE, A LOOMING DEADLINE, RUSSELL BRINGS CALM WHERE THERE IS TENSION, CLARITY WHERE THERE IS CONFUSION, AND STEADINESS WHERE THERE IS STRESS. HIS PRESENCE JUST DOESN'T EASE THE MOMENT.
IT EMPOWERS THE PEOPLE AROUND HIM TO RISE TO IT.
BECAUSE OF RUSSELL, CHALLENGES FEEL MANAGEABLE AND VICTORY IS POSSIBLE. FOR ALMOST 20 YEARS, RUSSELL HAS SERVED WITH A DEEP, HEARTFELT COMMITMENT TO OUR COMMUNITY. HIS MASTERY OF PROGRAM RULES AND POLICY IS REMARKABLE. BUT EVEN MORE REMARKABLE IS THE HUMANITY HE BRINGS TO EVERY INTERACTION.
HE COMMUNICATES WITH KINDNESS, LEADS WITH INTEGRITY, AND TREATS EVERY PERSON, CLIENT OR COLLEAGUE, WITH DIGNITY AND RESPECT. HE REMINDS US THAT BEHIND EVERY POLICY IS A PERSON, BEHIND EVERY CASE IS A STORY, AND BEHIND EVERY CALL, THERE IS A CHANCE TO MAKE SOMEONE'S LIFE BETTER.
RUSSELL IS ALSO AN EXTRAORDINARY MENTOR. HE GENEROUSLY SHARES HIS KNOWLEDGE, SUPPORTS NEW STAFF, AND FOSTERS A CULTURE WHERE QUESTIONS ARE WELCOME AND LEARNING IS CONSTANT. HIS MENTORSHIP DOESN'T JUST BUILD SKILLS. IT BUILDS CONFIDENCE, PURPOSE, AND PRIDE IN THE WORK WE DO. AND HIS PERFORMANCE, ALWAYS TIMELY, ALWAYS THOROUGH, ALWAYS RELIABLE. RUSSELL APPROACHES EVERY CASE WITH CARE, ENSURING THAT FAMILIES RECEIVE THE HELP THEY NEED AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.
HE STEPS UP BEFORE BEING ASKED AND FOLLOWS THROUGH WITHOUT FAIL. RUSSELL IS MORE THAN A STANDOUT EMPLOYEE. HE'S A ROLE MODEL FOR PUBLIC SERVICE. HE EMBODIES THE VALUES WE STRIVE FOR AT HHSA WITH UNWAVERING DEDICATION TO THE PEOPLE OF SHASTA COUNTY. IT IS WITH GREAT
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APPRECIATION AND ADMIRATION THAT WE CONGRATULATE RUSSELL BUTLER, SHASTA COUNTY'S EMPLOYEE OF THE MONTH, FOR SEPTEMBER 2026. THANK YOU, JOHN. WITH THAT, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO RE -DROP THIS RESOLUTION.I'LL SECOND THAT. MOTION MADE BY SUPERVISOR CHRIST, SECONDED BY SUPERVISOR PLUMMER. DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? WE DO, CHAIR. WE HAVE ONE IN -PERSON SPEAKER.
GIVE ME JUST ONE MOMENT. IT'S KIM MOORE. OKAY, SHE RESCINDED.
OKAY, SO WITH THAT SAID, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? PASSES 5 -0.
HOW ARE YOU DOING, RUSSELL? GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING.
CONGRATULATIONS. MARCY, IT'S NOT EVEN ON. THAT DOESN'T MATTER, SO I CAN TURN IT ON.
CONGRATULATIONS. SO IN THIS BAG, WE HAVE SOME AMAZING AWARDS, TOTALING, I'M TOLD, CLOSE TO $1 MILLION, BUT I'M NOT GOING TO ADD IT UP. SO YOU HAVE AN EMPLOYEE OF THE MONTH TUMBLER CUP, A $30 AMAZON GIFT CERTIFICATE DONATED BY THE DEPARTMENT HEAD FORUM, $20 DUTCH BROS GIFT CERTIFICATE DONATED BY THE SHERIFF'S ADMINISTRATIVE ASSOCIATION, $35 DONATED BY THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS TO THE READING PUBLIC MARKET, $25 WINCO GIFT CERTIFICATE DONATED BY UPEC, THE GENERAL UNIT. AND I WANT TO THANK THOSE DONORS, AND WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS BEFORE WE TAKE A PICTURE? ALL RIGHT. GOOD MORNING. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I APPRECIATE ALL OUR GREAT STAFF, AND IT'S GOOD TO BE A PART OF THE TEAM, AND THANKS. IT'S AN HONOR TO GET THIS AWARD. ALL RIGHT.
YOU DON'T ASK IF THEY'D LIKE TO, YOU SAY, GET UP HERE AND GET UP HERE.
[R2 Recognize Lori J. Scott, Shasta County Treasurer-Tax Collector/Public Administrator, for her 50 years of service to Shasta County.]
ALL RIGHT, MOVING ON TO R2, WHICH IS ANOTHER AMAZING EMPLOYEE THAT WE'VE HAD FOR A FEW MONTHS, ANYWAYS, I THINK. GOSH, HOW MANY MONTHS WOULD THAT BE? 600? SO R2, RECOGNIZE LORI J. SCOTT, SHASTA COUNTY TREASURER, TAX COLLECTOR, PUBLIC ADMINISTRATOR, FOR 50 YEARS OF SERVICE TO SHASTA COUNTY.ALL RIGHT, DO WE HAVE A SPEAKER ON THIS ITEM? YES, I BELIEVE WE HAVE AN ANALYST HERE FROM OUR OFFICE TO SAY A FEW WORDS. AWESOME.
MORNING, CHAIR KELLSTROM, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, PATRICK FERNANDO DALY, ADMINISTRATIVE ANALYST ASSIGNED TO GENERAL GOVERNMENT, INCLUDING TREASURER, TAX COLLECTOR, PUBLIC ADMINISTRATOR. I'VE HAD THE PLEASURE OF WORKING WITH LORI SINCE I BEGAN WITH THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICE, BUT MY AWARENESS OF THE LEGEND OF LORI SCOTT GOES BEYOND THAT. PREVIOUSLY, I'D WORKED IN SUPPORT SERVICES PERSONNEL, WHERE ONE OF MY DUTIES WAS WORKING WITH LONGEVITY REPORTS. AND I RECALL, YOU KNOW, WHEN I WAS DOING THESE REPORTS, SEEING REPEATEDLY AT THE TOP OF THE LIST BY A COUNTRY MILE IN THE NAME OF LORI SCOTT. AND I REMEMBER THINKING, YOU KNOW, GOODNESS GRACIOUS, THAT'S A LENGTHY CAREER. WHO WOULD STICK AROUND THAT LENGTH
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OF TIME? YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT SEEMS LIKE A BAFFLING NUMBER.BUT SOME MONTHS LATER, IN GETTING TO MEET LORI SCOTT, I GOT MY ANSWER ON THAT. THIS IS A PERSON WHO TRULY HAS PASSION FOR THEIR WORK. SHE BRINGS AN ENERGY TO THE JOB THAT YOU DON'T OFTEN SEE IN PEOPLE, LET ALONE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN AT IT FOR 50 YEARS. I'M SO IMPRESSED BY HER ATTRACTION TO HER WORK AND HER COMMITMENT TO THE PUBLIC SERVICE, WHICH SHE HAS QUITE LITERALLY DEDICATED HER LIFE.
LORI, DID YOU WANT TO SAY A FEW WORDS? I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU TO PUT HER ON THE SPOT.
THANK YOU, EVERYONE. IT HAS BEEN AN HONOR AND A PRIVILEGE TO SERVE THE CITIZENS OF SHASTA COUNTY FOR THE PAST 50 YEARS. I WANT TO THANK THE VOTERS FOR GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO RUN FOR OFFICE FOR SEVEN TERMS. THANK YOU FOR THE TRUST YOU HAVE PLACED IN ME AS A LEADER OF SHASTA COUNTY. AS YOU'RE AWARE, I DID NOT RUN FOR RE -ELECTION TO THE OFFICE OF TREASURY TAX COLLECTOR PUBLIC ADMINISTRATOR. I WILL BE LEAVING THE COUNTY SERVICE AT THE END OF MY TERM, WHICH IS JANUARY 4TH OF 2027. I APPRECIATE THE POSITIVE WORK RELATIONSHIP THAT I HAVE ENJOYED WITH THE BOARD, THE CAO, SUPPORT SERVICES, INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY, CODE ENFORCEMENT, THE COUNTY CORONER, AND THE SHERIFF, WHERE I WORKED FOUR AND A HALF YEARS, AND THAT WAS THE BEGINNING OF MY JOURNEY THROUGH THIS.
IN ADDITION, I HAVE WORKED CLOSELY AND COOPERATIVELY WITH THE HONORABLE LESLIE MORGAN, TREASURER, OR EXCUSE ME, ASSESSOR -RECORDER, AND THE HONORABLE NOLDA SHORT, AUDITOR -CONTROLLER, FOR THE BENEFITS OF THE CITIZENS OF SHASTA COUNTY. I WANT TO RECOGNIZE AND THANK THE EMPLOYEES AND MANAGEMENT IN THE TREASURY TAX COLLECTOR PUBLIC ADMINISTRATOR'S OFFICE FOR THEIR OUTSTANDING PROFESSIONAL AND DEDICATED SERVICE TO THE PUBLIC AND PUT UP WITH ME WANTING TO CHANGE THINGS IN THE OFFICE TO MAKE IT MORE EFFICIENTLY AND TO SAVE THE TAXPAYERS' MONEY.
NOT ALL PEOPLE LIKE CHANGE. I WANT TO WISH MY SUCCESSOR, LORETTA SCHROEDER, TREASURER, TAX COLLECTOR, PUBLIC ADMINISTRATOR, ELECT SUCCESS. I WILL WORK COOPERATIVELY WITH HER TO MAKE THEIR TRANSITION INTO THE OFFICE AS EASY AS POSSIBLE.
I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THE CONTINUED GROWTH AND ACHIEVEMENT OF THIS EXCEPTIONAL TEAM.
SERVING SHASTA COUNTY IS THE GREATEST HONOR OF MY LIFE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, LORI.
AND I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THIS RECOGNITION AND SECONDED BY SUPERVISOR CRY.
SORRY, I WANT TO HURT HIM FIRST. DO WE HAVE A CERTIFICATE TO PRESENT? WE DO, JAREN. WE DO HAVE ONE REQUEST TO SPEAK. OKAY, PERFECT. THAT WAS MY NEXT QUESTION. OKAY, KIM MOORE. OKAY, SHE PASSES AGAIN. ALL RIGHT, SO ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? 5 -0. ALL RIGHT.
DO YOU KNOW WHO THE FIRST FEMALE TREASURER WAS? I HAVE A LIST THAT CHRIS ANDREWS, THE ASSESSOR -RECORDER BEFORE LESLIE MORGAN, GOING BACK TO THE 1800S. AND THERE WAS ONE OTHER LADY THAT WAS BEFORE JACK WILLIAMS THAT RAN. I'M THE LONGEST TERM TREASURER, TAX COLLECTOR, SINCE THE 1800S.
AND I'M THE FIRST WOMAN AS TREASURER, TAX COLLECTOR, PUBLIC ADMINISTRATOR IN SHASTA COUNTY. YAY.
I THINK YOU WOULD BE THE LONGEST TERM OF JUST ABOUT ANYTHING. SO, LAURIE, IT HAS BEEN A PLEASURE. I THINK FROM DAY ONE, YOU HAVE WORKED WITH ME AND YOU'VE HELPED ME AND YOU'VE GUIDED ME. SO, I WANT TO GIVE YOU THE CERTIFICATE OF RECOGNITION.
BUT I WILL SAY THAT WE'RE GOING TO MISS YOU DEARLY. SO, WE'RE GOING TO GET A PICTURE SO WE ALWAYS REMEMBER YOU.
BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH, LAURIE. YOU'VE BEEN FANTASTIC.
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ALL RIGHT. SUPERVISOR CRAIG.YEAH. I WANT TO MAKE ONE QUICK COMMENT ABOUT LAURIE. LAURIE WAS THE FIRST ELECTED OFFICIAL THAT I SAT DOWN WITH. AND I WANT TO SAY THIS AS POLITELY AS I CAN SO IT DOESN'T DISPARAGE ANYBODY ELSE IN TERMS OF OTHER ELECTED OFFICIALS.
BUT LAURIE SCOTT, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT WORKING IN A POSITION THAT'S REALLY DIMINISHING RETURNS FINANCIALLY, WHEN SHE TALKS ABOUT HOW MUCH SHE CARES DEEPLY ABOUT THIS COUNTY, SHE ABSOLUTELY DOES. HER AND LORETTA. HER AND LORETTA, I'VE BEEN OUT THERE WITH THEM IN HAZMAT SUITS, AND THEY'RE ON PROPERTIES THAT HAVE BEEN DRUG DENS, THE WORST OF THE WORST.
AND THEY'RE OUT THERE, ON THEIR OWN, OFTENTIMES IF THERE'S NOT A SHERIFF'S ESCORT, NOT BECAUSE OF MISCOMMUNICATION, BUT JUST TIMING OR WHATEVER, THEY GO OUT THERE INTO SOME EXTREMELY DANGEROUS SITUATIONS AND STILL DO THE WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE TO MOVE THIS COUNTY FORWARD, EVEN AT THEIR OWN PERSONAL SAFETY.
AND I CAN'T SAY ENOUGH ABOUT LAURIE'S LEADERSHIP, AND LORETTA OBVIOUSLY HAVE BIG SHOES TO FILL, WE DON'T EXPECT YOU TO BE THERE 50 YEARS, BUT LAURIE, I JUST WANT TO SAY REALLY PUBLICLY THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMITMENT, BECAUSE IT'S AMAZING, SO THANK YOU.
[R3 Receive an update from the County Executive Officer on County issues and consider action on specific legislation related to Shasta County’s legislative platform and receive Supervisors’ reports on countywide issues.]
ALL RIGHT, IT'S HARD TO MOVE ON FROM THERE, BUT WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO R3, RECEIVE AN UPDATE FROM THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE OFFICER ON COUNTY ISSUES AND CONSIDER ACTION ON SPECIFIC LEGISLATION RELATED TO SHASTA COUNTY. SHASTA COUNTY'S LEGISLATIVE PLATFORM AND RECEIVE SUPERVISOR'S REPORTS ON COUNTY -WIDE ISSUES.CEO RICKERT. GOOD MORNING, CHAIRMAN KELSERMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, DAVE RICKERT, COUNTY EXECUTIVE OFFICER REPORTING.
WITH AN UPDATE ON STATE ISSUES, AB 1383, THE PUBLIC EMPLOYEES RETIREMENT BENEFITS BILL, PASSED THE CALIFORNIA LEGISLATURE AND CURRENTLY SITS ON THE GOVERNOR'S DESK FOR SIGNATURE. THIS BILL WILL DROP THE NORMAL RETIREMENT AGE FOR PUBLIC SAFETY WORKERS FROM 57 TO 55. RAISED THE ANNUAL PENSIONABLE EARNINGS LIMIT BY NEARLY $60 ,000. IT GRANTS UNIONS THE POWER TO COLLECTIVELY BARGAIN FOR ENHANCED PENSION FORMULAS.
THE CALPERS ACTUARIES IN THE CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT OF FINANCE PROJECT THAT THIS BASIC CHANGE WILL COST STATE AND LOCAL GOVERNMENT APPROXIMATELY $4 BILLION TO $4 .8 BILLION OVER THE COMING DECADES. THIS CONCLUDES MY REPORT. THANK YOU, CEO RICKERT. SUPERVISOR PLUMMER.
YES, WELCOME, EVERYONE. GOOD TO SEE YOU. I'M GOING TO PIGGYBACK ON CEO RICKERT'S UPDATE THERE AND MAKE A MOTION THAT WE BRING BACK A LETTER OF OPPOSITION TO AB 1383 AT THE NEXT MEETING BEFORE THE SEPTEMBER 30TH DEADLINE FOR GOVERNOR NEWSOM TO SIGN IT. AND WHILE WE'D, OF COURSE, LOVE TO OFFER BETTER BENEFITS, WE'RE NOT IN A POSITION TO INCUR ADDITIONAL COSTS, YOU KNOW, AND THE CALIFORNIA STATE ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES ALSO FORMALLY OPPOSES THIS.
ALL RIGHT, MOTION MADE BY SUPERVISOR PLUMMER, SECONDED BY SUPERVISOR CRY. THIS IS BRING IT BACK FOR DISCUSSION, CORRECT? TO BRING BACK A LETTER OF OPPOSITION FOR POTENTIAL SIGNING AT THE NEXT MEETING. OKAY, ALL RIGHT, MOTION MADE BY SUPERVISOR PLUMMER, SECONDED BY SUPERVISOR CRY.
I'M GOING TO ABSTAIN FROM THIS BECAUSE I NEED TO READ IT FIRST TO SEE IF I WANT TO OPPOSE THAT OR NOT. THAT'S ME PERSONALLY. SO I GUESS WE CAN TAKE A ROLL CALL VOTE STARTING WITH SUPERVISOR PLUMMER. SUPERVISOR PLUMMER? YES. SUPERVISOR CRY? YES.
SUPERVISOR KELSTROM? I'M GOING TO SAY NO. SUPERVISOR HARMON? YES. AND SUPERVISOR LONG? YES. ALL RIGHT, PASSES 4 -1.
ALL RIGHT. ANOTHER UPDATE WAS IN LAKEHEAD IN MY DISTRICT FOR A TOWN HALL A COUPLE WEEKS AGO,
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AND THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF TALK OVER THE LAST, I'D SAY, WELL, PROBABLY SINCE I CAME INTO OFFICE AND MAYBE BEFORE THAT, ABOUT SOME SAFETY ISSUES AROUND THE ANTLERS BOAT RAMP, AND ONE OF THE CHALLENGES IN TERMS OF KIND OF MAINTAINING THAT FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF THE U .S. FOREST SERVICE AND OUR SHERIFF'S OFFICE, THEIR BOATING SAFETY DIVISION, IS THAT THE WATER LEVELS CHANGE, AND WE INCREASINGLY ARE HAVING A NUMBER OF WAKEBOARD BOATS THAT GO THROUGH THERE AND CREATE A SIGNIFICANT WAKE. AND SO WE HAD SERGEANT HESTON MCDANIEL COME UP THERE AND TALK WITH THE FOLKS UP THERE, AND AT THIS POINT, BOTH FROM THE CITIZENS AND FROM THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, WE BELIEVE IT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL TO HAVE A NO -WAKE ZONE AROUND ANTLERS BOAT RAMP FOR PUBLIC SAFETY. SO I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE DIRECT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE TO WORK WITH U .S. FOREST SERVICE TO BRING BACK AN ORDINANCE THAT WOULD CREATE A NO -WAKE ZONE AROUND ANTLERS BOAT RAMP.ALL RIGHT. I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION. MOTION MADE BY SUPERVISOR PLUMMER, SECONDED BY MYSELF. MR. CHAIRMAN, SO WE'RE GETTING OUTSIDE OF THE SCOPE OF WHAT CAN BE DONE. YOU CAN BRING BACK A DISCUSSION ITEM TO MAKE A MOTION TO CREATE AN ORDINANCE, BUT NOT TO BRING THE ORDINANCE. OKAY.
YOU OKAY WITH THAT? YEAH, I'LL AMEND. OKAY, AND I'LL AMEND MY SECOND. OKAY, FOR OUR DISCUSSION. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? PASSES 5 -0. OKAY.
GREAT. AND THEN ONE QUICK UPDATE IS I WAS ABLE TO SPEND SOME TIME AT THE JAIL OVER THE LAST WEEK OR SO, AND I JUST WANTED TO SHARE AN UPDATE THERE. I'M GOING TO SEE THE DIFFERENT CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN GOING ON. WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THE THIRD FLOOR AND DOING SOME ELECTRICAL WORK THERE IN PARTICULAR THAT WILL ENHANCE BOTH SAFETY AND SECURITY FOR THE OFFICERS. SO WE HAD TWO CAMERAS PER HOUSING POD, AND THAT'S INCREASING TO NINE, SO THERE WILL NO LONGER BE ANY BLIND SPOTS THERE, WHICH IS A BIG IMPROVEMENT, AND WILL ALSO HELP US ENSURE THE HEALTH OF THOSE IN CUSTODY. SO THE THIRD FLOOR IS JUST ABOUT DONE, AND THEN THEY'RE GOING TO BE MOVING DOWN TO THE SECOND FLOOR, AND THEN AFTER THAT TO THE FIRST FLOOR, WHICH THEY EXPECT TO TAKE AT LEAST FOUR MONTHS PER FLOOR, BUT IT COULD BE A BIT LONGER THAN THAT. SO WE'LL BE HOPEFULLY BACK OPEN AT FULL CAPACITY, I WOULD EXPECT, BETWEEN SPRING AND SUMMER OF NEXT YEAR. THE OTHER SECTION THAT IS HAVING A LOT OF WORK IS THE NEW PROGRAMMING SPACE AND TRANSPORTATION SPACE, WHICH IS DOWN ON THE KIND OF BASE LEVEL. AND SO THAT IS LOOKING GOOD AND ALMOST READY TO BE OPENED, AND THE GOOD THING ABOUT THAT IS THAT WILL ALLOW US TO START GROUP PROGRAMMING WITHIN THE JAIL FOR THE FIRST TIME SINCE BEFORE COVID. AND SO I'M EXCITED TO HAVE THAT BACK OPEN.
I THINK THEY'RE TRYING TO TIME, YOU KNOW, THE DIFFERENT CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS, BUT HOPEFULLY WITHIN THE NEXT SEVERAL MONTHS THAT WILL BE COMPLETE AS WELL. SO, AND THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT.
SUPERVISOR CRIOT. THANK YOU, CHAIR. I'LL GET THROUGH THESE PRETTY QUICKLY.
YOUTH OPTIONS. WE HAD A FUNDRAISER FOR THE PROGRAMS THAT OPERATE WITHIN THAT, AND, AGAIN, RAISING SHASTA AND OTHER ORGANIZATIONS THAT COLLABORATE WERE THERE AS WELL. I, OF COURSE, MISSED THE LAST TWO BOARD MEETINGS. I WAS IN THE HOSPITAL DURING EACH OF THEM, BUT ONE OF THE DISCUSSION ITEMS WAS ON THE OPIOID SETTLEMENT DOLLARS AND THEN OUTCOMES WITH THOSE PROGRAMS. I STILL FEEL THE MAJORITY OF MONEY SHOULD BE SPENT ON PREVENTION AND YOUTH OPTIONS AND RAISING SHASTA AND THAT PARTNERSHIP SEEMS TO BE GOING VERY WELL.
OF COURSE, THE NUMBERS AND THE DATA THAT'S PROVIDED, WE ALWAYS WANT TO SEE THAT OUTREACH INCREASE, BUT I'M CONFIDENT THAT JEN AND JENNIFER AND CLAY ARE ALL WORKING TOWARDS THOSE OUTCOMES.
I'VE CONTINUED TO HAVE MORE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT MEDICAL SCHOOL AND JUST OVERALL IMPROVED MEDICAL CARE IN SHASTA COUNTY. THAT'S NOT GOING AWAY, AND THERE'S REALLY A LOT MORE COMING WITH THAT. AGAIN, AS YOU CAN SEE, VERY OFTENTIMES, WHETHER IT'S DAVIS OR ANYBODY ELSE, THEY'LL TALK JUST TO GET THE NEWS CYCLE THROUGH, AND THEN IT GOES AWAY. WELL, TO ME, THIS ISN'T GOING AWAY BECAUSE ANYBODY THAT KNOWS OR HAS HEARD MY STORY FROM THE LAST MEETING AND WHAT HAPPENED WITH ME BETWEEN MERCY AND THEN TRANSPORT TO UCSF, IF WE DON'T APPROVE THINGS, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST I FEEL LIKE AS ELECTED OFFICIALS, WE ABSOLUTELY WASTE OUR TIME.
AND IT'S REALLY ABOUT PRODUCTIVITY, NOT ABOUT BEING BUSY. WE ALL GIVE REPORTS HERE AT THE END OF THE DAY, LIKE WHAT GETS DONE. AND ONE THING THAT I'M VERY THANKFUL FOR, AND I GET TO, I WOULDN'T SAY ANNOUNCE THIS, BUT I'VE BEEN PUSHING HARD ON THE DHE PROGRAM, WHICH IS THE DEPARTMENT OF HIGHWAY ENFORCEMENT, BRINGING THAT BACK WITH SHERIFF JOHNSON. SO I'M HAPPY TO SAY THAT THEY ARE IN THE BEGINNING STAGES OF ACTUALLY SETTING THOSE OFFICERS
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OFF TO TRAINING, BECAUSE I THINK DETERRING PEOPLE FROM BRINGING ILLICIT OR ILLEGAL ACTIVITIES INTO THE COUNTY VIA OUR MAJOR ROADWAYS IS A DETERRENT, AND IT WAS A DETERRENT, AND THAT'S NOW COMING BACK.IT'S ON ITS WAY BACK, TWO BOARDS NOW, I'VE BEEN ON THE ONE PREVIOUS WITH CHAIR KELSEN AND THIS BOARD THAT I CURRENTLY SIT ON, IT'S GREAT TO SEE THAT THAT'S MOVING FORWARD. ANOTHER ITEM, IF YOU'VE FOLLOWED ANY OF THE CIRCLE SIX STUFF AT THE CITY OF READING, AGAIN THAT'S NOT COUNTY RELATED, BUT WHAT'S INTERESTING ABOUT IT IS IF YOU SEE ONE OF THE SEGMENTS IN THERE IS ABOUT ELIMINATING POSITIONS THAT DON'T NEED TO BE THERE.
WELL, I WANT TO SAY WHAT I'M VERY PROUD OF, THE PREVIOUS BOARD AND THIS BOARD, AND ESPECIALLY UNDER CEO RICKERT'S LEADERSHIP, WE'VE BEEN DOING THAT, WE'VE BEEN ELIMINATING MANY POSITIONS THAT WERE FUNDED WITH MADE -UP MONEY DURING COVID, AND WE'VE BEEN ELIMINATING THOSE, SO HERE YOU HAVE AN ORGANIZATION PAYING A BUNCH OF MONEY TO A CONSULTANT TO COME IN AND SAY, DO THIS, THIS BOARD AND THIS CEO, DAVE RICKERT, HAS PROACTIVELY DONE THAT, SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WAS HIGHLIGHTED. THE LAST THING I'M GOING TO BRING UP, I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION. IT MAY OR MAY NOT BE POPULAR, BUT YOU KNOW, I THINK SOMETIMES THE HARDEST THING YOU CAN DO IN LIFE IS SAY YOU'RE WRONG, YOU DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, OR I'M SORRY. SOMETIMES I'VE HAD TO DO ALL THREE IN THE SAME SENTENCE. ONE VOTE THAT I DEFINITELY NOT HAPPY I MADE WAS IN THE FLOCK CAMERAS. NOW, I'M GOING TO PREFACE THIS WITH, I THINK SHERIFF JOHNSON TO BE ONE OF THE MOST INTEGROUS GOOD MEN THAT I'VE MET IN MY TIME OF OFFICE. HE IS SOMEBODY DEFINITELY I WILL STAY IN TOUCH WITH. I DO NOT LIKE THEM. HOWEVER, OR NOT HOWEVER, BUT SHERIFF JOHNSON WILL NOT BE OUR SHERIFF FOR 50 YEARS. I MEAN, MAYBE, BUT I DON'T THINK SO. IF HE WAS THERE, I WOULD PROBABLY SAY I MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN KEEPING FLOCK CAMERAS, BUT I WOULD MAKE A MOTION THAT WE BRING BACK FOR DISCUSSION OUR FLOCK CAMERA CONTRACT AND THE EXISTENCE OF THOSE WITHIN THE COUNTY. I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION, EVEN THOUGH I WAS THE ONLY ELECTED OFFICIAL AT THE INFORMATIONAL MEETING THAT THE SHERIFF HELD OVER A YEAR AGO UP IN A CITY OF SHASTA LAKE, BUT I WILL SECOND THAT MOTION TO BRING THOSE BACK FOR A DISCUSSION. SO BEFORE WE TAKE THAT VOTE, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I MAKE THE POINT TOO. I'M SURE ALL OF US MET WITH THE SHERIFF IN DIFFERENT CAPACITIES. THE PROBLEM IS WE HAD A SHERIFF HERE THAT ABUSED HIS OFFICE AND DID IT. SO IT'S NOT LIKE THINGS DON'T HAPPEN NEFARIOUSLY AT ANY LEVEL, AT ANY LEVEL.
AND FOR ME, I THINK THE SURVEILLANCE COMPONENT, AND NOW WE'RE LEARNING SO MUCH MORE ABOUT FLOCK CAMERAS AS THEY'VE BEEN REALLY ROLLED OUT IN A MUCH BIGGER, MUCH MORE PUBLIC WAY. I THINK IT NEEDS A DISCUSSION. SO AGAIN, THIS ISN'T A VOTE TO GET RID OF THEM. THIS IS A VOTE TO JUST BRING THAT DISCUSSION BACK.
ALL RIGHT. WE'LL TAKE A ROLL CALL VOTE STARTING WITH SUPERVISOR LONG. YES. SORRY.
SUPERVISOR CRY? YES. AND SUPERVISOR PLUMMER? YES. YOU KNOW, AND IN CLOSING, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOUR GENTLEMEN FOR IT BECAUSE I KNOW I MIGHT BE THE ONLY ONE THAT FEELS THAT WAY, BUT YOU SEE OTHER JURISDICTIONS WHO CAN'T HAVE EVEN A DISCUSSION ABOUT IT. SO THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, SUPERVISOR CRY. SUPERVISOR HARMON? GOOD MORNING. YEAH, THAT, IT'S, I GET IT. IT'S TOUGH TO, BECAUSE THERE'S SOME POSITIVE PROS AND CONS BOTH WAYS ABOUT THEM FLOCK CAMERAS.
SO YEAH, I HAVE TALKED TO SHERIFF JOHNSON ABOUT IT, AND I UNDERSTAND THE VALUE OF IT, AND I HOPE EVERYBODY ELSE UNDERSTANDS THERE'S TWO SIDES OF THAT STORY. THERE'S SOME VALUE TO IT. THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT HAVE, THAT HAVE COME OUT OF THOSE FLOCK, BUT I GET THE, I GET THE CONCERNS, TOO. SO YEAH, THANKS FOR BRINGING THAT OUT.
ON THE 27TH OF AUGUST, I HAD A NORTH TECH MEETING, BOARD MEETING IN CHICO.
ON THE 31ST, NORTH, NORTHERN SACRAMENTO VALLEY INTEGRATED REGIONAL WATER MANAGEMENT OF THE BOARD. HOLY SMOKES, I THINK I MIGHT HAVE MISSED SOMETHING IN THERE, BUT WE HAD, WE HAD THAT BOARD MEETING ON THE 31ST, AND THE BIG DISCUSSION WAS ABOUT, THAT I TOOK AWAY FROM IT, WAS WATER RIGHTS.
THEY HAD A NICE CHART UP THERE.
YOU CAN LOOK THIS UP. I'M SURE IT'S ONLINE BY NOW, BUT THEY HAD A PRESENTATION THAT GOT EVERYBODY'S ATTENTION, AND IT FELT LIKE WHAT WAS REALLY ON THE TABLE AND ON THE BLOCK WAS THE FARMERS AND RANCHERS' WATER RIGHTS. WE NEED TO PROTECT THAT IN THEIR, ANYWAY, I'LL BE FOLLOWING THAT AND SEEING WHERE WE GO WITH THAT. ON THE 7TH, I HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF GOING TO THE INTERMOUNTAIN FAIR, THE LIVESTOCK SALE, AND WHAT A GREAT TIME TO SIT
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THERE AND WATCH THE COMMUNITY BACK ALL OF THEIR KIDS. THEY STARTED, THE HOGS, THEY STARTED AT $10, AND IT WAS NOTHING. I THINK I SEEN ONE HOG SELL FOR $13 WAS THE LOWEST, AND THEN IT WENT UP $25 WAS, I SEEN THAT LOTS, THE WHOLE, THROUGH THE WHOLE PROCESS, BUT IT WAS JUST AMAZING TO WATCH HOW THEY, HOW THEY, EVEN THOUGH IT'S, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE TOUGH ECONOMIC TIMES, THEY'RE, THEY'RE RIGHT THERE BACKING ALL THEM KIDS, AND THAT WAS, THAT WAS A PRIVILEGE TO WATCH. AND THEN ON THE 8TH, JOHN INGRAM AND CHRIS KELSTROM AND I ATTENDED A MEETING WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF FISH AND GAME. WE MET OUR NEW, OUR NEW ADVISOR, I FORGOT TO SAY PETE.ANYWAYS, THAT, WE'RE WORKING ON THE, I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S COMING UP HERE, THE WILDLIFE LIAISON.
ON THE 9TH, I GOT TO GO TO A BERNIE CHAMBER MEETING WITH REBECCA BAUER, OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT LEADER, AND SHE'S, SHE DOES AN AMAZING JOB WITH THE PEOPLE, AND I, I ESPECIALLY ENJOY WATCHING HER INTERACT WITH ALL THE, THE BERNIE BASIN PEOPLE THAT WERE IN THIS MEETING. UM, AND THEN, UH, I'D JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT, UH, IT'S A PRIVILEGE, IT'S A PRIVILEGE TO BE UP HERE AND REPRESENT OUR COUNTY, AND I, AND I DON'T, I, I TAKE, I DON'T TAKE THAT LIGHTLY, AND I APPRECIATE ANYBODY'S, UH, SUPPORT FOR THIS BOARD, AND I APPRECIATE THIS BOARD HERE, EVERYBODY'S WORK, AND WITH THAT, I CONCLUDE MY REPORT. THANK YOU, SUPER AS A HOMEOWNER, SUPERVISOR AS A LONG. THANK YOU, CHAIR. WELCOME, EVERYONE.
UM, I MET WITH, UH, CHRISTY COLEMAN, UH, HHSA, AARON WATTS, CEO RICKERT, AND WE DISCUSSED AND CONTINUED, UH, UPDATING ON THE FUNDING STATUS FOR HHSA AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT SOME OF THOSE, THOSE ISSUES. I MET IN FRENCH GULCH, UM, OUR ENVIRONMENTAL SCIENTIST WAS PRESENT BECAUSE WE HAVE AN E. COLI SITUATION IN THE CLEAR CREEK, UM, AND SO, UH, THEY DID SOME TESTING ON A SUSPECTED SOURCE AND, UH, DID SOME DYE TESTING AND, UH, DYE TRACING AND, UH, PRESSURE TESTING AND FOUND OUT THAT THAT WAS NOT THE SOURCE OF THE CONTAMINATION, SO THIS IS AN ONGOING DISCUSSION, UM, AND, UH, IT'S, IT'S, WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE THAT OUT, AND, UH, SO THE NEXT STEP WOULD BE, UH, PCR TESTING, WHICH IS, UH, DNA TESTING BASICALLY TO FIGURE OUT IF IT'S ANIMAL SOURCE OR, UM, HUMAN WASTE RELATED, AND THAT IS, UH, THE STATE, UH, WATER BOARD'S RESPONSIBILITY, SO IT SOUNDS LIKE, CAN'T GUARANTEE THIS, BUT THEY'RE, THEY'RE GOING TO BE STEPPING INTO THIS AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE SOURCE OF THAT. UM, ATTENDED A FIRE MEETING WITH, UM, CHIEF O 'HARA AND, UH, DON WATTS, HIS, HIS NUMBER TWO, UH, SUPERVISOR PLUMMER AND I ATTENDED THIS MEETING AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, AND I THINK THIS IS AN IMPORTANT ONGOING DISCUSSION THAT WE HAVE TO BE WORKING ON SOLUTIONS FOR BECAUSE, AS, UH, CHIEF O 'HARA STATED DURING BUDGET HEARINGS A COUPLE MONTHS BACK, UM, WE'RE KIND OF COMING UP TO THE CLIFF, UH, THE COUNTY REALLY IS GOING TO HAVE TROUBLE AFFORDING THIS 11 .4, 11 .3 MILLION, UM, WHICH WE HAVE KIND OF A, A LOT OF $5 MILLION UNFUNDED PORTION TO THAT, SO WE'RE TRYING TO WORK ON SOLUTIONS, UM, AND WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE MAKING PROGRESS ON THAT. UM, LET'S SEE HERE, I ATTENDED A COMMUNITY FOUNDATION, UH, KIND OF A MEETING, AND, UH, IT WAS, IT WAS WONDERFUL BECAUSE I HAVE NOT REALLY HAD A LOT TO DO WITH THE COMMUNITY FOUNDATION HERE IN THE COMMUNITY, UM, AND, UM, SINCE 2000, THE COMMUNITY FOUNDATION HAS AWARDED OVER, IN, IN SHASTA COUNTY ALONE, HAS AWARDED OVER $40 MILLION IN GRANTS. LAST YEAR THEY RECORDED, UH, UH, A RECORD OF $550 ,000 IN SCHOLARSHIPS, UH, OVER 7 MILLION IN DISASTER RELIEF FUNDS, MOSTLY THE, DUE TO THE CAR FIRE, SO THEY WERE PROVIDING A LOT OF ASSISTANCE, AND, UH, THEY'VE HAD AN IMPACT OF WELL OVER $110 MILLION IN OUR COMMUNITY SINCE THEY'VE BEEN, AND IT'S, IT'S A FINE ORGANIZATION, UM, AND, UH, CARRIE CURRAN, I MIGHT NOT SAY IT RIGHT, CARRIE CURRANCI, CURRANCI, UM, SO SHE IS THE CEO, UH, EXECUTIVE FOR COMMUNITY FOUNDATION, AND, AND, UH, SHE AND I ARE GOING TO BE GETTING TOGETHER AND, AND TALKING
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ABOUT THEIR MISSION, AND, UH, IT'S, IT'S AN IMPORTANT ORGANIZATION, UM, LET'S SEE HERE, OKAY, UH, I THINK THAT'S IT, AND THEN, UM, BEFORE, BEFORE I CONCLUDE, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION, THAT, FOR THE CHEMICAL PEOPLE, RED RIBBON WEEK, THAT WE BRING THIS BACK FOR, UH, AGENDA, UM, AT OUR NEXT MEETING IN OCTOBER, OR ACTUALLY, THE, THE FIRST MEETING IN OCTOBER, UH, FOR RED RIBBON WEEK, SO, I, THAT'S THE PROCLAMATION FOR RED RIBBON WEEK. ALL RIGHT. I WOULD MAKE THAT MOTION. I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION. MOTION MADE BY SUPERVISOR LONG, SECONDED BY MYSELF. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? PASSES 5 -0. THANK YOU, SUPERVISOR LONG. ALL RIGHT, ON THE 26TH, I HAD A LAW LIBRARY MEETING, UM, FOLLOWED BY CALLING OUT BINGO NUMBERS IN SHINGLETOWN, SO SHOUT OUT TO, UH, ALL THE GREAT PEOPLE UP THERE, MARY, RUBY, SHIRLEY, RICHARD, UH, PENNY, ALL OF THEM, THEY'RE, DO A GREAT JOB UP THERE. UM, AND THEN I, ON THE, UH, 4TH, I MET AMANDA AT THE FIRE SAFE COUNCIL, I KNOW SUPERVISOR LONG, YOU'VE MET WITH AMANDA, AND, UH, SO I WENT DOWN, MET WITH HER, TALKED TO HER FOR A WHILE, AND THEN ON THE 7TH, I WAS AT THE LABOR DAY PICNIC IN ANDERSON RIVER PARK, UM, GOT TO SEE A LOT OF GREAT FOLKS DOWN THERE, AND THEN, AS SUPERVISOR HARMON SAID, ON THE 8TH, WE DID HAVE A WOLF MEETING, UM, AT THE REDDING, UH, DEPARTMENT OF FISH AND WILDLIFE, UM, AND THEN ON THE 10TH, I HAD A REDDING CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, UH, MEETING SLASH INTERVIEW, UM, AND THEN ON THE 11TH, I WAS AT THE 911 MEMORIAL, THE FLAGPOLE AT BOCELLI, AND I JUST GOT TO SEE, I LEFT, AND I JUST GOT TO SEE THE GALS GETTING THEIR HORSES READY TO DO THE FLAGS ALONGSIDE, UH, JUST SOUTH OF, UH, I -5 RENTALS THERE, IF YOU'VE NEVER SEEN THAT, UM, IT'S, IT'S PRETTY AMAZING, SO, AND THEN I WAS BACK IN REDDING LATER ON, JUST IN TIME TO SEE THEM PUTTING THE HORSES BACK UP, SO, UM, THEN, UH, I HAD, UH, ANDERSON VFW, UH, ON SATURDAY, I WAS AT THE ANDERSON VFW, LIKE NORMAL, AND THEN UP TO SHINGLETOWN VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT, AND THEN BACK DOWN TO COTTONWOOD HOT RODS AND HOGS, I WAS SUPPOSED TO GO TO THE CATTLEMAN'S BARBECUE, BUT I REALIZED IT WAS THE SAME DAY AS THE HAPPY VALLEY, UH, FIRE DEPARTMENT BARBECUE, AND, UH, I ALWAYS HELP OUT THERE, SO I ENDED UP GOING, SKIPPING THE CATTLEMAN'S AND WENT TO HAPPY VALLEY, WHERE I COOKED, UH, BEANS AND BREAD AND CORN WITH THE RAYS, AND THE WHOLE FAMILY THERE WAS PRETTY AWESOME, AND THEN, UM, ON THE 13TH, WE, UH, WE HAD THE ASPHALT COWBOYS BARBECUE, UH, YESTERDAY, UH, OR, EXCUSE ME, SUNDAY, BUT I MISSED IT BECAUSE I WAS INVITED TO GO TO THE ANDERSON SEEK CENTER AND ATTEND THEIR SERVICES, SO, YEAH, BUT THAT WAS QUITE AN EXPERIENCE, IT WAS A REALLY, REALLY COOL EXPERIENCE, UH, LAST NIGHT WE HAD SOME CHAMBER OF COMMERCE DEBATES, AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAME UP THERE WAS, UH, AI DATA CENTER, SO, AI DATA CENTERS, I TALKED WITH REBECCA BAER FROM THE EDC, UH, EARLIER IN THE DAY, AND JUST SO EVERYBODY KNOWS, I MEAN, THERE'S PEOPLE OUT THERE RIGHT NOW THAT ARE COLLECTING SIGNATURES SO THAT WE NEVER HAVE AN AI DATA CENTER HERE, UM, SO JUST SO EVERYBODY KNOWS, NOBODY HAS PULLED PERMITS, NOBODY'S ASKED ABOUT AN AI DATA CENTER, NOBODY'S BEEN LOOKING INTO AN AI DATA CENTER HERE IN, AND TOWN, I GUESS CIRCLE SIX DID A REPORT FOR THE CITY OF READING AND SAID THAT WE'D BE A GOOD LOCATION FOR AI DATA CENTERS, UM, TALKED TO REBECCA BAER, THE ONES THAT ACTUALLY MAKE SOME MONEY, THIS WOULD NOT BE A GOOD FIT, CHESS COUNTY WOULD NOT BE A GOOD FIT FOR THOSE, SO, AS OF NOW, NO ONE'S LOOKING INTO AI CENTERS, NO ONE'S COMING TO US WANTING TO PUT IN AN AI CENTER, SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR, AND WITH THAT, THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT.ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU, I FORGOT ONE THING, I KNEW, I KNEW I WAS BLANKING FOR, FOR A REASON, UM, I ATTENDED ON SATURDAY, UH, THE MEMORIAL SERVICE FOR ERIC WOODSTROM, AND I'VE KNOWN ERIC FOR MANY YEARS, AND ERIC, UH, WAS MY APPOINTEE FOR THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION, HE STEPPED DOWN, UM, AND ERIC HYATT TOOK OVER, AND JUST, JUST, I JUST WANTED TO RECOGNIZE ERIC WOODSTROM, UM, HE, HE'S A WONDERFUL PUBLIC SERVANT, INVOLVED IN MANY BOARDS IN OUR COMMUNITY, CENTERVILLE WATER DISTRICT, HE'S ON A, UH, UM, UM, CREDIT UNION BOARD, HE'S, UH, BEEN ON THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION, AND, AND THE LIST ACTUALLY IS ENDLESS, AND HE WAS A BANKER BY TRADE, AND, AND IT WAS SUDDEN AND UNEXPECTED, AND, UH, I JUST, JUST WANTED TO HONOR HIM, SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SUPERVISOR WAYNE, YES, HE WAS A GREAT MAN,
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AND THAT CAUGHT ME BY SURPRISE AS WELL. ALL RIGHT, MOVING ON, UH, WE'RE GONNA GO TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR, FIRST, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? UM, WE DO, SO NOTHING'S BEEN PULLED FROM CONSENT, SO I WILL MOVE STRAIGHT INTO PUBLIC COMMENT OPEN TIME.WE HAVE 14 SPEAKERS, THEY ARE ALL IN PERSON, FIRST UP, KIM MOORE, FOLLOWED BY JEFF CARR, STEVE WOODRUM, THEN SHASTA COUNTY WATCHDOG. IF I CALLED YOUR NAME, PLEASE GET IN QUEUE. KIM, COME ON UP.
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GOOD MORNING, BOARD. KEVIN, IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN, AND RIGHT NOW, AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, YOU'RE THE ONLY ONE IN THE ROOM I'M TALKING TO, SO, UM, UM, FOR MANY YEARS, EIGHT, I CAME TO THE BOARD AND ASKED FOR HELP FOR WHAT WAS HAPPENING AT THE WOODLANDS, AND INSTEAD OF THEM ADDRESSING THE ISSUES, THEY LABELED ME AS THE PROBLEM, AND YOU WERE THE ONE BOARD MEMBER WHO REALLY BELIEVED IN ME, AND TODAY, I KNOW THAT YOU'RE HOLDING THE EVIDENCE THAT I HAVE WITH ME HERE THAT VINDICATES ME WHEN THEY SAID IT WASN'T HAPPENING, AND IT WAS GOD THAT ALLOWED ME TO OBTAIN THOSE PHOTOS, AND THEY WERE OBTAINED LEGALLY, AND WHETHER OR NOT I SUBMIT THEM TODAY WILL BE UP TO YOU, UM, BECAUSE I, I'M CONCERNED FOR THE RECORD. I WANT TO GIVE CREDIT TO HOLLY XANDER. SHE'S DOING BACKFLIPS.SHE'S NOW IN A POSITION THAT JEFF DUNOS USED TO BE IN AT NBCSS, AND SHE IS WORKING TO MAKE CORRECTIONS, SERIOUS CORRECTIONS, REAL CORRECTIONS.
UM, I ALSO, OUR ON -SITE MANAGER, MARIA WEBER, I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT SHE'S HUNG IN THERE, CAMILLE WOODSTROM AT READING CITY COUNCIL, WHO ALSO TOOK THE TIME TO LISTEN TO ME AND BELIEVE ME, AND GAVE US ANOTHER MEETING LAST WEEK, AND NOLAN WILSON FROM CODE ENFORCEMENT, WHO'S DOING AN AMAZING JOB FINALLY HOLDING PEOPLE TO ACCOUNT.
THERE'S SOMEBODY REALLY SPECIAL I NEED TO MENTION, AND HER NAME IS DORIS MIRAMONTES, AND SHE IS AN ECM FOR PARTNERSHIP, AND THAT WOMAN HAS BEEN SO BY MY SIDE THAT SHE'S GONE TO MY DENTIST APPOINTMENTS WITH ME, SO I DON'T HAVE THE MHSA PERSONAL SERVICES COORDINATOR, BUT GOD HAS PROVIDED THAT ADVOCATE FOR ME, AND I CAN STAND HERE SO CALMLY RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE I CAN RECLAIM MY CHARACTER, BUT I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU PERSONALLY FOR BELIEVING ME, KEVIN, YOUR WORK, I'VE SENT.
DO YOU WANT ME? YEAH, WELL, I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, UH, I'M GONNA, STEPHANIE, JUST BECAUSE THESE ARE PRA -ABLE, AND AGAIN, THERE'S PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM THAT'LL PROBABLY SPEAK IN A FEW MINUTES THAT WILL PRA, SO I'M GONNA SUBMIT THESE TO YOU, STEPHANIE, SO. I BELIEVE SHE SUBMITTED THEM.
PERFECT. SO, SO THEY'RE IN THE RECORD, AND THIS IS GREAT. I HOPE YOU, HOWEVER YOU CAME ABOUT THEM, THAT'S HEINOUS, SO. NEXT UP, JEFF CARR, FOLLOWED BY STEVE WOODRUM, SHASTA COUNTY WATCHDOG, THEN BEV. IF I CALLED YOUR NAME, PLEASE GET IN QUEUE. JEFF CARR FROM DISTRICT 5 DOWN IN THE SOUTH.
UM, I SEE THAT OUR AG COMMISSIONER WILL SPEAK A LITTLE BIT LATER TODAY WITH THE ANNUAL AG REPORT. I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE NOT JUST HAVE REPRESENTATION FROM DISTRICTS 3 AND DISTRICTS 5, BUT WE ACTUALLY HAVE LEADERSHIP FROM OUR SUPERVISORS IN THOSE AREAS. THOSE ARE OUR MOST, UH, PRODUCTIVE RURAL AREAS IN THE COUNTY, AND I THINK WE, WE NEED LEADERSHIP. A LOT OF PEOPLE TALK ABOUT MANAGEMENT, BUT WE NEED LEADERSHIP IN ORDER TO BUILD AGRICULTURE IN THIS COUNTY. IT SHOULD BE A PRIORITY FOR ALL OF OUR DISTRICTS BECAUSE THE ECONOMIC IMPACT AFFECTS US ALL. SO, SUPERVISORS, AND THAT'S, THIS NOW INCLUDES ALL FIVE OF YOU. WHAT ARE YOU DOING AND WHAT WILL YOU DO TO IMPROVE AGRICULTURE MARKETS AND BRING MORE AGRICULTURE ACTIVITY TO THIS COUNTY? I SEE AND HEAR A LOT ABOUT COUNTRY PRIDE IN OUR COUNTY, BUT I DON'T SEE THE ACTUAL WORK BEING DONE. WE HAVE THE BEST GRAVITY -FED CANAL SYSTEM IN THE STATE. IT SERVES OVER 7 ,000 ACRES WITH IRRIGATION. MORE THAN THAT, WHEN YOU CONSIDER AN ORCHARD LIKE MINE RECEIVE SUB -IRRIGATION, AND SO THE EFFECT IS INCREDIBLE FOR OUR COUNTY. WE HAVE A SHRINKING AGRICULTURAL ECONOMY IN THIS COUNTY, DESPITE THE ROSY POTEMKIN NUMBERS YOU WILL SEE IN A GLOSSY YEARBOOK TODAY.
EATING IS AN IMPORTANT FUNCTION. OUR AG DEPARTMENT DOES GREAT WORK ON PEST AND WEED CONTROL. THE STAFF IS FRIENDLY. THEY'VE FINELY ADJUSTED TO THEIR NEW, TO THEIR NEW PLACE, BUT WE NEED MORE. WILL YOU SUPPORT INCREASED ACTION ON THE PART OF THE DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE IN THIS COUNTY TO SUPPORT AND GROW OUR BEEF AND CATTLE INDUSTRIES, AND OUR TREE CROPS, AND OUR VEGETABLES? WILL OUR COUNTY, WITH ITS RESOURCES, GROW MORE THAN STAR THISTLE, HIMALAYAN BLACKBERRIES, RUSTED CARS, AND TUMBLE DOWN SINGLE WIDES? NEXT UP, STEVE WOODRUM, FOLLOWED BY SHASTA COUNTY WATCHDOG, BEV, THEN ALAN MCFARLANE. IF I CALLED YOUR NAME, PLEASE COME UP.
GOOD MORNING. CLINT CURTIS AND HIS SUPPORTERS EXAMINED THE VOTING PATTERNS ON BALLOTS, AND THEY FOUND FRAUD. THEY WERE WRONG. IMAGINE A BALLOT WHERE SOMEONE VOTES FOR JESSICA FRANCESCA AND MEASURE B. THAT
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WOULD BE STRANGE. BUT CONTRADICTORY BALLOTS DO HAPPEN. PEOPLE MAKE MISTAKES IN WEIRD CHOICES, EVEN WHEN VOTING. BUT CURTIS JUMPED TO THE EXPLANATION OF FRAUD, AS IF THAT WAS THE ONLY POSSIBLE EXPLANATION.CURTIS HAS NO RIGHT TO JUDGE OUR SECRET BALLOTS.
THE ELECTION OFFICE COUNTS YOUR VOTES. THEY DON'T JUDGE THE VALUE, THE WISDOM OF YOUR VOTES. THIS ACT IS UNETHICAL AND PROBABLY ILLEGAL.
I WAS ELECTION WORKER FOR 16 YEARS, AND I NEVER HEARD EVEN A HINT OF THIS. ACTUALLY, CURTIS AND HIS SUPPORTERS ARE MORE THAN JUST WRONG. CONSIDER THE PUBLIC TRUST THEY'VE SQUANDERED.
CONSIDER THE PUBLIC MONEY THEY'VE WASTED. CURTIS IS A CORRUPT POLITICAL OPERATIVE.
NEXT UP, SHASTA COUNTY WATCHDOG, FOLLOWED BY BEV, ALAN MCFARLANE, THEN RALPH BARCLAY. IF I CALLED YOUR NAME, PLEASE GET IN QUEUE.
I JUST FILED THIS MORNING THREE COMPLAINTS. ONE IS ACTUALLY AGAINST THE ELECTION DEPARTMENT, TWO OF THEM AGAINST THE ELECTION OFFICE.
AND THEN THE OTHER ONE IS ACTUALLY AGAINST KEVIN CRY, ASSIST AND DESIST FOR SLANDER AND DEFAMATION AND VIOLATION OF CIVIL RIGHTS. I'M TIRED OF KEVIN CRY ACTUALLY GOING ON HIS RADIO THINKING THAT WHEN HE GETS ON THIS RADIO SHOW, HE COULD SLANDER PEOPLE AND MAKE SLANDER COMMENTS. SO, I ACTUALLY FILED THIS AGAINST KEVIN. FOR HIM, NOW ONE CANNOT SAY ANYTHING.
IF HE DOES, THEN YOU'RE ON NOTICE. SO, IT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR A LONG TIME. CIVIL RIGHTS BEEN, PEOPLE HAVE BEEN VIOLATING OUR RIGHTS HERE AND INCLUDING, ACTUALLY, I'M GOING TO GO INTO SOMETHING. YOU SAID SOMETHING ABOUT THE PREVIOUS SHERIFF WHO ABUSED HIS POSITION. YOU ABUSED YOUR POSITION, KEVIN CRY. AND YOU VIOLATE PEOPLE'S RIGHTS AND YOU DON'T CARE. AND YOU MADE COMMENTS ABOUT THEM AND YOU CONTINUE TO DO THAT. THEN WE HAVE CORKY WHO ACTUALLY TALKS ABOUT TRANSPARENCY. AND WE KNOW THAT CORKY DOESN'T BELIEVE IN TRANSPARENCY BECAUSE I ASKED THEM AT THE LAST MEETING. WHO DOES HE PAY MONEY TO READ, TO READ THE GOVERNMENT EMAILS, WHICH IS ACTUALLY, IN AUGUST 17TH, I WENT TO THE FBI. AND WHEN I TALKED TO THEM ABOUT, WHAT'S HIS NAME, KIRK, I ACTUALLY SPOKE TO THEM ABOUT YOU. SO, JUST SO YOU KNOW, YOU ACTUALLY SAID IN BERNIE, YOU PAID MONTHS FOR LIBERTY TO READ GOVERNMENT EMAILS, WHICH IS LESLIE, YOU SAID IT AT BERNIE, CAME OUT OF YOUR OWN MOUTH. DID YOU KNOW THEY PROVIDE ME A CD WITH THE RECORDS OF THAT MEETING THEY TOOK PLACE? YOU ARE VIOLATING FEDERAL LAWS.
AND YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT TRANSPARENCY, YOU LIAR.
NEXT UP, BEV, FOLLOWED BY ALAN MCFARLAND, RALPH BARKLEY, THEN MOE. IF I CALLED YOUR NAME, PLEASE GET IN QUEUE.
OKAY. I'M HERE TO REQUEST THE PRESERVATION OF SHASTA COUNTY'S NOVEMBER 2024 ELECTION RECORDS. FEDERAL LAW 52 USC SECTION 20701 REQUIRED EVERY OFFICER OF ELECTION TO KEEP ALL RECORDS RELATING TO THAT ELECTION FOR 22 MONTHS.
THAT WINDOW CLOSED SEPTEMBER 5TH, 2026. SOME MAY BELIEVE THAT THE COUNTY IS NOW FREE TO DISPOSE OF BALLOTS, CAST VOTE RECORDS, TABULATOR LOGS, AND VIDEOS. I AM, I'M ASKING YOU TO CONFIRM ON THE RECORD THAT IT WILL NOT.
HERE'S WHY. ON SEPTEMBER 4TH, THE U .S. DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE SINCE LITIGATION HOLD LETTERS TO CALIFORNIA AND 29 OTHER STATES. THE LETTER DIRECTS ELECTION OFFICIALS TO PRESERVE AND RETAIN ALL HARD COPIES, DOCUMENTS, AND ELECTRONICALLY STORED INFORMATION RELATING TO THE 2024 ELECTION. IT WARNS THAT FAILURE TO PRESERVE MAY CONSTITUTE SPOILATION OF EVIDENCE AND MAY SUBJECT OFFICIALS TO CIVIL AND CRIMINAL SANCTIONS. THAT LETTER WENT TO THE SECRETARY OF STATE.
THE ASSOCIATED PRESS OBTAINED A COPY OF THE REPORT ON SEPTEMBER 10TH. TWO POINTS OF ACCURACY. FIRST, THE LETTER NAMES THE STATE, NOT THIS COUNTY, BUT SECTION 20701 RUNS TO EVERY OFFICER OF ELECTION.
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COUNTY'S OWN. SECOND, THE LETTER DOES NOT LIST BALLOTS OR CAST VOTE RECORDS BY NAME.WHAT THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT CONDUCTS SHOWS, HOWEVER, IS HOW TO READ THE STATUTE.
IN JANUARY, IT OBTAINED A FEDERAL WARRANT IN GEORGIA FOR PHYSICAL BALLOTS, TABULATOR TAPES, AND BALLOT IMAGES. NEXT UP, ALAN MCFARLAND, FOLLOWED BY LAURA HOBBS, RALPH BARKLEY, THEN MO.
GOOD MORNING. I'M ALAN MCFARLAND. I'M VISITING FROM TEHAMA COUNTY. I'M AT FIRST BLUSHED. IT'S I FIND THIS HEARTWARMING, AND YOU GUYS ARE MORE HEALTHIER AND HAVE KEENER BS DETECTORS THAN THEY DO WHERE I COME FROM. THE REASON WHY I'M HERE TALKING TO YOU IS I WAS LISTENING TO 106 READING, AND THEY GAVE A REPORT ABOUT A SHASTA COUNTY DEPUTY WHO WAS PUT IN PRISON FOR BEING INTIMATE WITH A FEMALE INMATE AND TAKING HER TO A PLACE WHERE THERE WEREN'T ANY CAMERA SURVEILLANCE AND THEN VIOLATING HER.
THERE'S TWO WAYS TO I'M RECOMMENDING TO HELP FIND YOUR WAY THROUGH THAT AND WEED OUT PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO COST YOU A MILLION DOLLARS.
THIS IS AN HRT -1B FOR PSYCHOPATHY. WE KNOW THE GENETIC CODE. THERE'S FOR SCHIZOPHRENIA. THERE'S FOR EPILEPSY. WE CAN JUST TAKE BLOOD TESTS BECAUSE THIS PERSON, THIS DEPUTY WHO GOT THROUGH IS REALLY GOOD AT ACTING. WELL, 30 SECONDS.
THE SECOND WAY OF DOING IT IS TO HORMONE EVOLUTION UP THE ADULT BRAIN. THIS DEPUTY IS A PLAYER, AND HE GOT SNOGGLED BY THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT SELECTION COMMITTEE, AND THEY'RE ALSO PLAYERS. YOU GET MARRIED, HE WALKS ON PEOPLE, SHE'S A DOORMAT.
THEY'RE RECIPROCALS OF EACH OTHER.
AND TO HORMONE EVOLUTION, WELL, TIME'S UP.
NEXT UP, LAURA HOBBS, RALPH BARKLEY, VENMO. IF I CALLED YOUR NAME, PLEASE GET IN QUEUE.
GOOD MORNING, SUPERVISORS. I WANTED TO SPEAK ON A FEW DIFFERENT ITEMS. FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO THANK YOU, CORKY HARMON, FOR STANDING UP FOR THE PEOPLE AND WHAT YOU SPOKE ABOUT A COUPLE MEETINGS AGO WHERE YOU SAID IF IT WAS $50 ,000 NEEDED TO DO A FORENSIC ANALYSIS ON THOSE BALLOTS THAT YOU WOULD ACTUALLY PAY FOR THAT. I THINK THAT WAS HONORABLE AND BRAVE AND WISE, AND I APPRECIATE YOU STANDING UP AGAINST THE BOARD BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE THE REST OF THE BOARD HAS NOT DONE THE RIGHT THING ON THIS MATTER WHEN IT COMES TO ELECTIONS AND TRANSPARENCY.
SO I APPRECIATE THAT, AND I WANTED TO THANK YOU PUBLICLY FOR THAT AS WELL.
THERE'S A NUMBER OF THINGS ABOUT THE ELECTIONS OFFICE I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT.
FOR YEARS, THE PUBLIC HAS BEEN LIED TO.
THE ELECTIONS HAVE BEEN HIDDEN FROM THE PUBLIC. THEY HAVE HIDDEN PUBLIC RECORDS FROM PEOPLE WHO NEED THEM.
THEY HAVE BLOCKED OUT OBSERVATION. EVERYTHING ABOUT IT WAS MADE PRIVATE.
WHAT CLINT CURTIS IS DOING IS THE OPPOSITE OF THAT. HE'S TRYING TO MAKE EVERYTHING PUBLIC FOR EVERYONE TO SEE NOTHING HIDDEN. AND WHAT'S HAPPENING NOW AT THE COUNTY LEVEL, THE AMOUNT OF BLOWBACK AND PUSHBACK THAT HE'S GETTING FOR THIS IS JUST ASTOUNDING.
WHAT IT SAYS TO ME IS THAT THIS COUNTY IS CORRUPT THROUGH AND THROUGH. THEY'RE ACTING ALMOST LIKE A CRIMINAL SYNDICATE, LIKE A MAFIA OR ANY KIND OF ORGANIZATION LIKE THAT WHERE THEY'RE JUST TRYING TO PROTECT THEIR OWN. AND THEY SEE CLINT CURTIS AND HIS ACTIONS AS SOMETHING THAT'S NOT PART OF THE COUNTY. THEY DON'T WANT TRANSPARENCY. THEY WANT TO KEEP POWER THAT THEY HAVE.
SO THEY'RE WORKING TOGETHER TO BLOCK TRANSPARENCY, TO BLOCK HONESTY, TO BLOCK THE PUBLIC FROM BEING ABLE TO SEE WHAT'S GOING ON. AND THAT'S WRONG. NEXT UP, RALPH BARKLEY, FOLLOWED BY MOE, LORI BRIDGEFORD, THEN MARGARET HANSON. IF I CALLED YOUR NAME, PLEASE GET IN QUEUE. GOOD MORNING. I SENT YOU GUYS A LETTER. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE RECEIVED IT YET OR NOT. BUT IT WAS DISCUSSING RENT INCREASES ON TRAILER PARKS. AND I WOULD
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LIKE TO SEE YOU GUYS PUT AN ORDINANCE COUNTYWIDE -WIDE STATING THAT THERE'S NO MORE THAN A 5 % RENT INCREASE IN ANY TRAILER PARK IN THIS COUNTY. AND THERE'S AT LEAST 100 OF THEM. AND IT WOULD BEHOOVE YOU GUYS TO DO THAT FOR US. I MEAN, YOU REPRESENT US. WE DON'T REPRESENT YOU. I'D APPRECIATE IT IF YOU'D LOOK INTO IT.NEXT UP, MO, FOLLOWED BY LORI BRIDGEFORD, MARGARET HANSON, THEN NICK GARDNER. IF I CALLED YOUR NAME, PLEASE GET IN QUEUE.
GOOD MORNING, BOARD. HELLO, FELLOW CONSTITUENTS. MY NAME IS MONIQUE WILLEEN. AND THIS LAST WEEK HAS BEEN, I'VE BEEN RUMINATING ABOUT THE YINGS AND YANGS, THE PARABOLA OF LIFE, THE WAY IT GOES GOOD, IT GOES BAD, ALL THINGS SHALL CHANGE.
ON 2001, 9 -11, I WAS AT HOME WITH A 9 -MONTH -OLD BABY, AND I WATCHED ON THE NEWS AS A NEWSCASTER, WHOM I BELIEVE WAS DAN RATHER, HAD ACTUALLY SAID THE F WORD. AND IT SHOCKED ME WHEN I WAS WATCHING WHAT WAS HAPPENING WITH THE WORLD TRADE CENTER.
AND IT SHOCKED ME BECAUSE I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT I WAS SEEING. BUT IN THE AFTERMATH OF THAT, 25 YEARS LATER, WE NOW KNOW EVERYTHING THAT WE POSSIBLY CAN ABOUT THAT DAY.
AND 2002, WHEN WE RAISED THE FLAG, THE BOCELLI FLAG, ON HIGHWAY 5, I WAS THERE. THEY HAD SOME OF THE METAL THAT WAS FROM THE WORLD TRADE CENTER.
WE DEDICATED THAT FLAG. WE HAD A CEREMONY. IT WAS THE FIRST YEAR AFTER 9 -11. I WAS A FLIGHT MEDIC AT THAT TIME. 25 YEARS LATER, MY SON, LINCOLN, AT THE ACADEMY IN SHASTA COLLEGE, HE WAS THERE AT THE 25TH ANNIVERSARY OF THAT DAY COMMEMORATING IT.
AND IT'S JUST A BEAUTIFUL THING WHEN SOMEBODY HAS A CHILD THAT THEY'VE INVESTED ALL THEIR LOVE AND THEIR LIGHT IN WHO'S NOW DOING THE SAME THING THEIR MOTHER DID. MY SON IS GOING TO BE A FIRST RESPONDER. SO WHAT I'M SPEAKING TO IS, AT SOME POINT, I DID WANT TO BE A DOCTOR. SO I'M GOING TO ASK YOU, KEVIN, PLEASE WORK HARD TO GET THAT MEDICAL SCHOOL HERE. BECAUSE WHO KNOWS, 15 YEARS FROM NOW, MY SON MIGHT WANT TO DO THE SAME THING HIS MOTHER DID, STAND UP FOR OTHERS WHEN OTHERS WOULDN'T. THANK YOU. NEXT UP, LORI BRIDGEFORD, FOLLOWED BY MARGARET HANSON, NICK GARDNER, THEN JIM BURNETT. IF I CALLED YOUR NAME, PLEASE GET IN QUEUE.
GOOD MORNING, BOARD. I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CODE OF CONDUCT. I'VE LEFT TWO PHONE CALLS IN THE LAST FEW WEEKS AND HAVE NOT GOTTEN ANY RESPONSE, NO EMAIL, NOTHING. SO I'M GOING TO MAKE THIS PUBLIC. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW, AS WELL AS OTHER PEOPLE, REGARDING 1 -101, THE CODE OF CONDUCT, WHEN EXACTLY DOES IT BEGIN? DOES IT START WHEN THE DOORS OPEN AND THEY'RE UNLOCKED AND PEOPLE START FILLING OUT THE REQUEST CARDS? DOES IT BEGIN WHEN THE GAVEL IS PUT ON AND THEN IT STARTS? I'VE BEEN PESTERED, BOTHERED, AND BULLIED BY AN INDIVIDUAL FOR THE LONGEST TIME, AND IT'S A SAFETY ISSUE. I HAVE NOT SPOKEN HERE IN JUST ABOUT A YEAR. THE LAST TIME I DID SPEAK, I WAS APPROACHED DURING PUBLIC COMMENT, AND THEN THE FOLLOWING WEEK THESE BLACK ROPES WENT UP, AND THAT PERSON STILL HAS GONE UNDER THEM AS PER VIDEO. SO THAT'S ONE THING I'D LIKE TO HAVE OPENLY ADDRESSED. THE OTHER THING IS THE VIDEO ISSUE FOR R9. I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN STAY FOR THE WHOLE MEETING TODAY.
THAT'S WHY I'M GOING TO DASH THROUGH THESE THINGS. I DON'T KNOW WHO OWNS IT OFFICIALLY, BUT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT CENSORING, EDITING, MISSING, OR LOST VIDEO. THE OTHER ISSUE I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT WAS CLOSED SESSION WITH THE PERFORMANCE REVIEW. I DON'T THINK A POSITIVE REVIEW IS IN ORDER BASED ON WHAT I'VE BEEN AWARE OF, WATCHING, AND SEEING. LASTLY, THE CLINT CURTIS THING. WELL, I THINK WE'RE GOING IN THE WRONG DIRECTION. YOU NEED TO ASK BOARD, PLEASE, GET SECOND OPINIONS. IF YOU DO NOT FEEL CONFIDENT ON THE ADVICE THAT YOU'RE GIVEN. I'D ALSO LIKE TO THANK CORKY HARMON FOR HIS OFFER TO HELP WITH THE AUTHENTICATION OF THE BALLOTS, AND I'D LIKE TO ALSO SAY TO KEVIN CRYE, I LOOK FORWARD, COMPLETELY LOOK FORWARD AS TO OTHER PEOPLE. WHEN YOU COMPLETE YOUR TERM AND SERVICE, THAT YOU FULLY EXPOSE THE CRIMINAL ACTIVITY, THE FRAUD, THE CORRUPTION, THE ABSOLUTE EVIL. THIS IS A HARD THING, BUT I THINK YOU HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WILL... NEXT UP, MARGARET HANSON, FOLLOWED BY NICK GARDNER, JIM BURNETT, THEN ANTONIA. IF I CALLED YOUR NAME, PLEASE GET IN QUEUE.
OKAY, SO I'M NOT AGAINST LAW ENFORCEMENT AND THE ABILITY TO DO THEIR JOBS, BUT I'M GOING TO TELL YOU, A PRIVATE NETWORK OF INTEGRATING INFO IS A PROBLEM.
WHO HOLDS THE KEYS? WHO HOLDS THE POWER? WHO HAS THIS INFO? DID WE CONSENT TO THIS UNCONSTITUTIONAL SURVEILLANCE? NO, WE DID NOT. AND FLOCK IS ONLY ONE OF THE VIOLATORS.
SURVEILLANCE OF YOUR DAILY PATTERN OF LIFE, YOUR PRIVATE, NON -CRIMINAL LIFE, IS WHAT IS
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AT ISSUE. WE ALL HAVE PRIVATE ACTIVITIES THAT ARE NOBODY ELSE'S BUSINESS. IT'S MEDICAL, MENTAL HEALTH, YOUR FRIENDS, YOUR RELIGIOUS ACTIVITIES, POLITICAL EVENTS, MEETINGS.IT'S NOT ABOUT ONLY TRACKING LICENSE PLATES. THERE ARE A FEW PESKY LITTLE CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS THAT STAND IN THE WAY OF THIS. THE FOURTH AMENDMENT IS ONE OF THEM. THEY BUILD A FILE ON YOU OVER DAYS AND MONTHS. THEY HAVE YOUR PATTERN OF TRAVEL. ONCE A PHYSICAL SURVEILLANCE NETWORK IS BUILT, ANYONE, AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO KNOW WHO IT IS, CAN HAVE ACCESS TO THIS. IT'S NOT JUST LAW ENFORCEMENT. THIS IS A PRIVATE COMPANY DOING THIS. WHO HOLDS THIS POWER? IT'S ALREADY BEEN ABUSED, INCLUDING FALSE POSITIVES, DATA BREACHES, AND STALKING.
IF I TAKE PICTURES OF YOU LEAVING YOUR HOUSE AND ALL OF YOUR ACTIVITIES THAT YOU DO, WOULD YOU THINK THIS ACTIVITY IS STALKING? THE LOGS, TIME STAMPS, AND RECORDS OF MOVEMENTS OF 100 % OF THE CITIZENS IS UNACCEPTABLE. AS AN ELECTED SHERIFF, JOHNSON SWORE TO UPHOLD THE CONSTITUTION.
THAT'S THE SUPREME LAW OF THE LAND. EITHER HE IS A CONSTITUTIONAL SHERIFF OR HE ISN'T. HE WILL NEED TO DECIDE WHICH HE IS. THERE IS ONLY ONE TO CHOOSE. THERE IS NO GRAY AREA, AND I'LL STICK WITH THE CONSTITUTION. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NEXT UP, NICK GARDNER, FOLLOWED BY JIM BURNETT, ANTONIA, THEN LESLIE SAWYER. IF I CALLED YOUR NAME, PLEASE GET IN QUEUE.
CORKY, YOU DIDN'T MAKE IT CLEAR THOSE HOGS THAT SOLD, THAT PRICE WAS PER POUND, NOT PER HOG. SOME PEOPLE MIGHT NOT UNDERSTAND THAT. I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE HENDERSON DITCH THAT FLOODED YOU GUYS' CONSTITUENTS, THIS REALLY BIG STORM. IT NEEDS TO BE CLEANED OUT, AND THERE'S A HOLE THAT THE CITY OF READING HASN'T FIXED. I BELIEVE IT WOULD BE A $10 ,000 FIX TO CLEAN IT OUT AND FIX THAT JUST TO GET THROUGH THIS NEXT WET WINTER THAT IS SUPPOSED TO COME BECAUSE OF EL NINO. I'D BE HAPPY TO TAKE LONG, CORKY, AND PLUMMER DOWN THERE AND SHOW THEM, AND YOU GUYS COULD PUT YOUR HEAD TOGETHER AND MAYBE THE CITY AND THE COUNTY COULD FIX THAT BEFORE THE STORMS HIT. I THINK THAT WOULD BE A REALLY GOOD THING. CHRIS, YOU MISSED AN OPPORTUNITY AGAINST MIKE GALLAGHER LAST NIGHT. HE INSINUATED THE REASON TRUE NORTH DIDN'T COME TO SHASTA COUNTY IS BECAUSE THE SUPERVISORS SENT A LETTER AGAINST IT. THE FACT IS, THEY DIDN'T GET A $150 MILLION GRANT. THAT'S WHY IT DIDN'T COME TO SHASTA COUNTY, AND I HOPE YOU'LL MAKE THAT CLEAR NEXT TIME. THAT'S JUST A TIP.
AND IT WON'T COME BACK. NOT TRUE NORTH, I HOPE. THERE'S ANOTHER BILL GOING ON TO MAKE TWO NEW STATE HOLIDAYS. I'D LIKE TO SEE YOU SEND A LETTER IN OPPOSITION TO THAT. HAVE A GREAT DAY. NEXT UP, JIM BURNETT, FOLLOWED BY ANTONIA, THEN LESLIE SAWYER. IF I CALLED YOUR NAME, PLEASE GET IN QUEUE.
GOOD MORNING. JUST HAVE A FEW THOUGHTS TODAY. THE FIRST ONE IS, THANKS FOR BRINGING THE FLOCK CAMERA ISSUE BACK BECAUSE THAT WAS, I THINK, A HUGE MISTAKE. WE'RE SEEING IT NOW MORE AND MORE ACROSS OUR STATE, ACROSS OUR NATION, THAT EVERY TIME SOMEBODY GIVES US SOMETHING LIKE BETTER LAW ENFORCEMENT, THERE'S ALWAYS A CATCH. AND THE CATCH IS ALWAYS THAT WE SURRENDER SOME MORE OF OUR PRIVACY AND GIVE IT TO PEOPLE THAT SHOULDN'T HAVE IT.
THAT'S THE MAIN FOCUS OF WHAT I'M OBJECTING TO.
PEOPLE THAT DON'T LIKE US USE THAT INFORMATION AGAINST US, EITHER NOW OR MAYBE IN THE FUTURE IF WE RUN AMISS AND RUN AFOUL OF SOMETHING, OR THEY USE IT TO MANIPULATE US. THAT'S ALL OUR CULTURE IS ABOUT NOWADAYS IS GATHERING EVERYTHING ABOUT EVERYBODY POSSIBLE AND THEN IN ORDER TO MANIPULATE THEM BETTER, TO INFLUENCE THEM, AND TO SEND THEM IN WAYS THAT THEY PROBABLY SHOULDN'T BE GOING.
SECONDLY, SPEAKING OF CAMERAS, THERE'S A LOT OF CAMERAS IN EVERY DEPARTMENT IN MOST BUSINESSES AND COUNTIES. WE HAVE CAMERAS IN THE ELECTION DEPARTMENT AND THEY HAVE BEEN RECORDING THINGS. AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THE BOARD IS NOT INSISTING THAT CLINT CURTIS BE ABLE TO LOOK AT THOSE VIDEOS.
THAT, TO ME, IS JUST BLATANTLY IRRESPONSIBLE. SO PLEASE, USE YOUR INFLUENCE TO LET THEM HAVE THAT.
SUPERVISOR LONG, YOUR FORMER LAW ENFORCEMENT, EVIDENCE IS KEY. AND WHAT WE AND CLINT CURTIS WANT TO DO IS PROVIDE AS MUCH EVIDENCE AS POSSIBLE. IT'S KIND OF
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LIKE PUT UP OR SHUT UP. IT'LL EITHER PROVE THE CASE OR DISPROVE IT. BUT TO HAVE IT HIDDEN MEANS THAT SOMEBODY'S TRYING TO COVER UP SOMETHING AND IT'S LOGICAL TO WONDER WHO'S COVERING IT UP AND WHY ARE THEY. THANK YOU. NEXT UP, ANTONIA, FOLLOWED BY LESLIE SAWYER. ANTONIA? NOT SEEING ANTONIA? LESLIE, COME ON UP.OKAY. SO AB 2700 PASSED BOTH SECTIONS OF OUR STATE GOVERNMENT AND IT NEEDED GOVERNOR NEWSOM TO SIGN OFF ON IT. HE'S NOT GOING TO HAVE A CHOICE BUT TO SIGN OFF ON IT AND IMPLEMENT IT INTO LAW. HOWEVER, WHAT HE IS DOING AND WHAT HE HAS PROPOSED TO DO ALREADY, AUGUST OF 2025, HE PUT SOMETHING FORWARD THAT OFFERS... THERE'S A CLAUSE CALLED SUBROGATION WHEN IT COMES TO INSURANCE AND BASICALLY WHAT THAT DOES IS WHEN YOUR INSURANCE COMPANY SEES THAT YOU'RE NOT AT FAULT, THEY GO AFTER WHO IS AND THEN THEY REQUIRE THAT THAT PERSON PAY BACK BASICALLY YOUR INSURANCE COMPANY. AND HE'S GIVING THEM A LOOPHOLE SO THAT THOSE UTILITY COMPANIES DO NOT HAVE TO PAY THAT SUBROGATION.
INSTEAD, IT JUST GOES BACK ON THE UTILITY PAYER AND USER.
AND SO IN ORDER FOR HIM TO STILL GET ALL OF HIS BENEFITS AND HIS DONATIONS AND EVERYTHING THAT HE GETS FROM THESE UTILITY COMPANIES, HE'S LOOKING TO COVER THEIR BUTTS. SO WE ARE WATCHING BECAUSE THAT WILL COME FORWARD IN THE NEXT PROBABLY 30 TO 60 DAYS. AND WHEN THAT DOES, I REALLY EXPECT THAT THIS BOARD WILL PUSH BACK ON THAT.
SO I WILL INFORM YOU. ALSO, I WANT PEOPLE TO BE AWARE WHEN THEY'RE MAKING SLANDEROUS STATEMENTS THAT THEY MIGHT WANT TO HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION CORRECT. THERE WAS A POINT OF TIME WHEN CORKY FIRST GOT INTO OFFICE THAT I WORKED AS A CONSULTANT AND A PERSONAL ASSISTANT AND HELPED GO THROUGH SOME OF HIS INFORMATION. I DID LOOK AFTER THE FIRST CLAIM, UNFORTUNATELY, BECAUSE I USE MY PERSONAL EMAIL FOR VIDEO CONTENT AS WELL.
THOSE ORIGINAL EMAILS ARE NOT THERE, BUT I USED MY PERSONAL EMAIL AND WENT THROUGH AND REVIEWED SOME EMAILS AND HELPED HIM WITH SOME STUFF.
BUT AS SOON AS WE WERE TOLD, HEY, ACCESS TO THE EMAIL COULD BE A SLIPPERY SLOPE, WAS NOT ILLEGAL, BUT COULD BE, WE JUST STOPPED ALTOGETHER AND I WENT A SEPARATE DIRECTION. HE WENT A
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SEPARATE DIRECTION, BUT MAYBE HAVE ALL YOUR INFORMATION.CHAIR, THAT WAS OUR LAST SPEAKER. THANK YOU, MS. BLANKENSHIP. ALL RIGHT.
NOTHING HAS BEEN PULLED FROM CONSENT. I MAKE A MOTION WE ACCEPT CONSENT. MOTION MADE BY SUPERVISOR CRYE, SECOND BY
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SUPERVISOR PLUMMER. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. PASSES 5 -0.LET'S MOVE ON TO A PRESENTATION. RECEIVE A PRESENTATION FROM THE AGRICULTURAL COMMISSIONER, STEELER OF WEIGHTS, AND A MEASURE REGARDING THE 2025 CHASTA COUNTY CROP AND LIVESTOCK REPORT. MR. INGRAM.
JUST ONE MOMENT. I'M SUPER EXCITED.
TELL LORI I SAID AYE. WE'LL BE IN.
CHAIR, CALCRUM. MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, JOHN INGRAM, AGRICULTURE COMMISSIONER, PRESENTING THE 2025 ANNUAL CROP REPORT. BEFORE I DO THAT, I WANT TO BRIEFLY ADDRESS STATEMENTS MADE TODAY AND AT AUGUST 25TH BOARD OF SUPERVISORS' MEETING DURING THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD QUESTIONING THE ACCURACY OF OUR ANNUAL REPORT. I UNDERSTAND THE FRUSTRATION. AGRICULTURE IN CHASTA COUNTY HAS CHANGED.
BUSINESSES HAVE CLOSED. AND PRODUCERS FACE HIGHER COSTS AND CHALLENGES THAT DID NOT EXIST DECADES AGO. WHO HERE CAN EVEN COMPREHEND DIESEL APPROACHING $10 A GALLON? BUT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE ONE IMPORTANT DISTINCTION. AGRICULTURE HAS CHANGED. THAT DOES NOT MEAN OUR CROP REPORT NUMBERS ARE FICTION. OUR STAFF WORKS DIRECTLY WITH GROWERS AND UTILIZES QUESTIONNAIRES, PRODUCER INFORMATION, PESTICIDE PERMIT DATA, NATIONAL AGRICULTURAL STATISTICS SERVICE DATA, AND OTHER SOURCES TO COMPILE THE BEST INFORMATION AVAILABLE.
NO AGRICULTURAL STATISTICAL REPORT IS PERFECT, IN MY OPINION.
BUT THERE IS A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN IMPERFECT AND IMAGINARY. THE APPROXIMATELY 1 ,400 ACRES OF WALNUTS QUESTIONED DURING THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD ARE SUPPORTED BY DATA AND CONVERSATIONS WITH OUR GROWERS. WE HAVE NOT SEEN INFORMATION THAT WOULD JUSTIFY REMOVING HUNDREDS OF ACRES FROM THAT REPORT, AS THE COMMENTER IMPLIED, SHOULD HAPPEN. THE SAME APPLIES TO 200 ACRES OF WINE GRAPES, WHICH OUR INFORMATION INDICATES HAS REMAINED ESSENTIALLY UNCHANGED SINCE 2019. THOSE VINEYARDS, BOTH BIG AND SMALL, REPRESENT AGRICULTURAL PRODUCTION REGARDLESS OF WHETHER EVERY GRAPE ULTIMATELY BECOMES WINE. AGRICULTURE REMAINS AN IMPORTANT PART OF OUR LOCAL ECONOMY, WITH SHASTA COUNTY APPROACHING AN ESTIMATED $100 MILLION IN AGRICULTURAL GOODS SOLD.
THAT IS WORTH RECOGNIZING EVEN AS WE ACKNOWLEDGE THE CHALLENGES FACING OUR PRODUCERS TODAY. OUR RESPONSIBILITY IS SIMPLE, TO REPORT THE DATA, TO REPORT WHAT THE DATA TELLS US, NOT TO MAKE AGRICULTURE LOOK
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BETTER OR WORSE THAN IT IS IN SHASTA COUNTY. THE 2025 CROP REPORT REPRESENTS THE BEST INFORMATION AVAILABLE TO MY OFFICE, AND I'M HAPPY TO REPORT WE STILL HAVE AN ESTIMATED 1 ,400 ACRES OF WALNUTS IN SHASTA COUNTY.UNDER FOOD AND AG CODE SECTION 2279, MY OFFICE IS REQUIRED TO COMPILE THIS ANNUAL REPORT, WHICH SUMMARIZES THE PRODUCTION, ACREAGE, GROSS VALUES OF SHASTA COUNTY'S AGRICULTURAL CROP AND LIVESTOCK. THESE FIGURES REPRESENT GROSS RETURNS, NOT NET INCOME. I'M PLEASED TO REPORT THAT THE 2025 GROSS VALUE OF SHASTA COUNTY AGRICULTURAL CROPS AND LIVESTOCK TOTALED $98 ,095 ,000, AN INCREASE OF APPROXIMATELY $8 .7 MILLION, OR 9 .75%, OVER 2024, WHICH IS AN ALL -TIME HIGH FOR SHASTA COUNTY. THE MAJOR INCREASES COME FROM CATTLE, NURSERY STOCK, AND TIMOTHY GRASS HAY, WHILE OVERALL HAY VALUES DECLINED APPROXIMATELY 7 .7%.
OUR TOP THREE INDIVIDUAL COMMODITIES WERE CATTLE AT $33 .2 MILLION, HAY AT $21 .8 MILLION, AND APIARY PRODUCTS AT $9 .6 MILLION. THE REPORT ALSO IDENTIFIES $28 .2 MILLION IN TIMBER VALUE, WHICH IS REPORTED SEPARATELY FROM THE AGRICULTURAL GRAND TOTAL, CONSISTENT WITH THE STATE AND NATIONAL REPORTING PRACTICES.
INTERNATIONAL TRADE CONTINUES TO BE AN IMPORTANT PART OF OUR AGRICULTURAL ECONOMY.
STRAWBERRY NURSERY PLANTS, QUEEN BEES, TIMBER, REMAIN THE LEADING EXPORTED COMMODITIES.
IN 2025, THE DEPARTMENT ISSUED 391 CERTIFICATES FOR AGRICULTURAL COMMODITIES EXPORTED TO 26 COUNTRIES AND WORKED WITH FEDERAL PARTNERS ON PLANT AND QUEEN BEE SHIPMENTS.
THE DEPARTMENT ALSO PROTECTS SHASTA COUNTY AGRICULTURE THROUGH PEST EXCLUSION, DETECTION, AND ERADICATION.
LAST YEAR, WE INSPECTED MORE THAN 3 ,300 SHIPMENTS, RESULTING IN 66 REJECTIONS, 49 PEST INTERCEPTIONS, WHICH INCLUDED 12 A -RATED PESTS. OUR DETECTION PROGRAM MONITORED 1 ,266 TRAPS FOR SIGNIFICANT AGRICULTURAL PESTS. WE ALSO CONTINUE NOXIOUS WEED ERADICATION AT APPROXIMATELY 528 SITES, COVERING NEARLY 41 ,000 ACRES OF SHASTA COUNTY.
LAST YEAR, THE DEPARTMENT CERTIFIED 29 LOCAL PRODUCERS AND FOUR FARMERS MARKETS. WE ALSO MONITOR 20 ORGANIC FARMS REPRESENTING 7 ,600 ACRES OF ORGANIC AGRICULTURAL PRODUCTION. TODAY'S PRESENTATION IS A SNAPSHOT OF THE APPROXIMATELY 40 COMMERCIAL AGRICULTURAL CROPS PRODUCED IN SHASTA COUNTY. THE COMPLETE 2025 CROP AND LIVESTOCK REPORT WILL BE AVAILABLE ELECTRONICALLY ONLINE LATER TODAY, OR YOU CAN STOP BY THE AG DEPARTMENT AND PICK UP A COPY IF YOU'D LIKE A HARD COPY.
LASTLY, I'D LIKE TO PROVIDE A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THE CANNABIS PRODUCTION WHICH HAS BEEN ADDED TO A SPECIAL INSERT IN THE CROP REPORT. WHILE COMMERCIAL CANNABIS CULTIVATION IS NOT LEGAL IN THE UNINCORPORATED AREAS OF SHASTA COUNTY, INDOOR COMMERCIAL PRODUCTION IS PERMITTED WITHIN THE CITIES OF REDDING AND SHASTA LAKE.
ACCORDING TO THE DEPARTMENT OF CANNABIS CONTROL STATISTICS, SHASTA COUNTY PRODUCERS GREW APPROXIMATELY 300 ,251 PLANTS WITH A TOTAL PACKAGED WEIGHT OF 158 ,222 POUNDS. BECAUSE OF THE SIGNIFICANT MARKET VOLATILITY, WE DID NOT ATTEMPT TO DETERMINE THE DOLLAR VALUE FOR THIS CANNABIS PRODUCTION.
IN CLOSING, I WANT TO THANK THE PRODUCERS, AGRICULTURAL BUSINESSES, AND PUBLIC AGENCIES WHO PROVIDE THIS INFORMATION NECESSARY TO PRODUCE THIS REPORT. I ALSO WANT TO THANK MY STAFF FOR THEIR HARD WORK AND DEDICATION TO SHASTA COUNTY AGRICULTURE.
THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO PRESENT THIS TODAY. HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, JOHN. AND THANK YOUR STAFF. YOU GUYS DID A GREAT JOB AS ALWAYS.
YES. THANK YOU, JOHN. QUICK QUESTION ON THE, I THINK IT WAS YOUR SECOND CHART, BUT WHEN YOU'RE SHOWING TOTAL BY THE DIFFERENT PRODUCT TYPES.
SO LIVESTOCK WENT WAY UP AND IT LOOKS LIKE THE FIELD CROPS HAS BEEN GOING DOWN PRETTY CONSIDERABLY OVER THE LAST THREE TO FOUR YEARS. WHAT WOULD YOU SAY ACCOUNTS FOR THOSE TWO DIVERGING PATTERNS? LIVESTOCK PRICES ARE GOING THROUGH THE ROOF. I'M SURE THAT'S NOT UNKNOWN TO ANYBODY. SO THE CATTLE PRICES ARE EXTREMELY HIGH. HAY PRICES, WHICH MAKES UP THE SIGNIFICANT PART OF OUR FIELD CROPS RIGHT THERE, HAY PRICES HAVE BEEN DECLINING.
TIMOTHY GRASS HAY IS A HIGH COMMODITY. THAT PRICE SEEMS TO BE RELATIVELY HIGH, BUT IF YOU'RE TALKING WHEAT AND PEA HAY, FORAGE HAY, OAT HAY, THOSE PRICES OF THAT HAY TENDS TO DECREASE. WE HAVE A LARGE ACREAGE OF THAT IN SHASTA COUNTY, AND WHEN THOSE DOLLARS DECREASE, IT AFFECTS THAT OVERALL FIELD CROP CATEGORY.
OKAY. AND THEN I KNOW IN THE PUBLIC COMMENTS EARLIER, THEY WERE MENTIONING WANTING US TO DO MORE. ARE THERE IDEAS THAT YOU HAVE THAT YOU THINK THE COUNTY COULD DO TO FURTHER STIMULATE THE AGRICULTURAL ECONOMY? THAT'S AN EXCELLENT
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QUESTION. I SAT THERE LISTENING TO THAT STATEMENT AND WONDERING WHAT COULD THE BOARD DO TO HELP FARMERS? AND I GREW UP FARMING. I'M A SIXTH -GENERATION FARMER. I LOOK AT WHAT AFFECTS FARMERS TODAY.YOU HAVE EXCRUCIATING PRICES OF INPUTS, DIESEL, FERTILIZER, INSURANCE. CAN YOU GUYS AFFECT THAT? NOT REALLY. AND I HONESTLY DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU COULD DO TO BRING THOSE NUMBERS DOWN BECAUSE IT'S THE COST OF THE INPUTS THAT REALLY KILL THOSE GUYS. THE GUYS HAVE A SET AMOUNT OF ACREAGE. YOU HAVE EQUIPMENT ROLLING ACROSS THOSE FIELDS EVERY DAY.
IT'S THOSE INPUTS THAT ARE DAILY DRIVING UP THOSE COSTS.
WHEN YOU HAVE A 400 -GALLON FUEL TANK ON A TRACTOR THAT IS POTENTIALLY GOING TO BURN THAT 400 GALLONS TODAY, AND YOU HAVE TO FILL IT TOMORROW WITH NEARLY $10 DIESEL, THAT'S A PROBLEM. AND YOU CAN ONLY RAISE YOUR PRICE SO HIGH, RIGHT? SO YOUR HAY PRICES CAN ONLY GO SO HIGH AS WHOEVER'S GOING TO BUY THAT HAY, YOU CAN'T RAISE IT EXPONENTIALLY TO MATCH THE DIESEL INPUT, SO NOW YOU'RE JUST TAKING POTENTIALLY A LOSS. AND I'VE TALKED TO NUMEROUS HAY FARMERS IN SHASTA COUNTY, THE FALL RIVER VALLEY, AND IT'S BEEN YEARS OF THAT. AND WHAT DO THOSE GUYS DO? THEY HAVE HAY IN PRODUCTION. ARE THEY GOING TO TAKE IT OUT AND PUT IT INTO SOMETHING ELSE? IN THE FALL RIVER VALLEY, THAT'S LIMITED. I MEAN, THAT IS HAY COUNTRY. SO THEN YOU'RE LEFT WITH BALING THAT HAY, PUTTING IT IN THE BARN AND HOPING THAT YOU'RE GOING TO SELL IT FOR AT LEAST A BREAK -EVEN POINT. AND THERE'S BEEN NUMEROUS YEARS WITH NUMEROUS OF THOSE GROWERS AND THAT HAS NOT HAPPENED. THEY'RE SELLING IT AT A LOSS. AND YOU CAN ONLY SUSTAIN THAT FOR SO LONG. AND THEN YOU FACTOR IN EQUIPMENT COSTS. A STANDARD 70 -HORSEPOWER TRACTOR IS OVER $100 ,000. I MEAN, THE SMALL FARMER DOESN'T EVEN COMPUTE ANYMORE. SO IT'S A CHALLENGE. I RECOGNIZE THAT AND I LISTEN TO THOSE COMMENTS AND I DO, I HONESTLY WONDER, WHAT CAN WE DO? I'VE OFTEN ASKED MY GROWERS, WHAT CAN WE DO TO HELP YOU? AT THE AG DEPARTMENT, WE HAVE STRICT REGULATIONS, LAWS AND REGULATIONS THAT WE HAVE TO ABIDE BY WITH THE STATE, AND I HELP THOSE GROWERS JUMP THROUGH THOSE HOOPS.
BUT WHEN IT COMES TO ECONOMY OF SCALE AND DOING ALL THAT, I REALLY DON'T KNOW. THE PRICES OF THOSE COMMODITIES HAVE TO INCREASE ALONG WITH THE COST OF GOODS, THE COST OF THE INPUTS, AND THAT'S THE REAL DIFFICULT PART, IN MY OPINION. THAT'S A CHALLENGE. THAT MAKES SENSE.
THANK YOU. AND IF IDEAS DO COME TO YOU, FEEL FREE TO LET US KNOW. I APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, SUPERVISOR PLUMMER. THANK YOU, JOHN. AGAIN, THIS IS A NO -VOTE ITEM, BUT DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? WE DO, CHAIR. WE HAVE TWO SPEAKERS. FIRST UP, KIM MOORE, FOLLOWED BY JEFF CARR.
I'M NOT SURE HOW TO DO IT, BUT WE HAVE A NUT TO CRACK.
AND I KNOW IT'S IN THIS CITY, BUT FROM WHAT I'VE BEEN TOLD, ALL THE MONEY THAT GOES IN ON THE MARIJUANA TAX TAXES WENT TO ADMINISTRATION AND NONE OF THE MONEY WENT TO WHERE IT WAS ORIGINALLY INTENDED TO GO. AND I'M WONDERING IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT THIS BOARD OR YOUR BOARD CAN DO TO DIG IN AND TRACK DOWN EXACTLY WHAT MONEY IS COMING IN ON THE MARIJUANA TAX AND WHO'S GETTING IT AND WHERE IT'S GOING AND WHERE IT'S NOT GOING.
THANK YOU. NEXT UP, JEFF CARR.
I WANT TO THANK MR. INGRAM AND ALSO I DON'T WANT TO ATTACK HIS RELATIVELY NEW TENURE OVER THERE. AND I DO HOPE THAT HE TAKES ADVANTAGE OF THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE LEADERSHIP IN GROWING OUR AGRICULTURE INDUSTRIES. I DO STILL CONTEND THAT WE NEED REAL NUMBERS. I SPENT 26 YEARS IN THE CLASSROOM GRADING PAPERS AND I KNOW AN EASY COPY AND PASTE WHEN I SEE ONE. AND I CAN GO BACK ALL THE WAY TO THE 2020 AG REPORT WHICH WOULD SHOW YOU SOME 2019 NUMBERS. THOSE NUMBERS HAVE NOT CHANGED SINCE THAT TIME. SO TO SAY THAT WE HAVE CONTINUED 28 ,000 ACRES IN IRRIGATED PASTURE, THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY EQUATE TO REALITY. I KNOW THAT MY FAMILY RANCH WHICH WAS CONVERTED TO THE BATTLE CREEK WILDLIFE REFUGE, THAT WAS 50 ACRES OF IRRIGATED PASTURE THAT WE TOOK OUT OF PRODUCTION.
THE GOVER RANCH CEASED DOING THEIRS. MEL HOY UP ON THE RIDGE, HE DOESN'T IRRIGATE. THESE NUMBERS SHOULD AT LEAST FLUCTUATE BY 1 ,000 OR SOMETHING. SO I WOULD SAY THAT THESE AREN'T THE REAL NUMBERS.
BUT I DO THINK THAT WE SHOULD TRUST AND PRAY THAT MR. INGRAM CAN PROVIDE LEADERSHIP IN GETTING ARABLE AND IRRIGATED LAND BACK INTO PRODUCTION.
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THERE'S SO MANY ACRES OF UNPRODUCTIVE LAND. WE ALSO COULD EXPAND AND NORMALIZE PRODUCE AND MEAT MARKET SALES IN THE COUNTY, FIND HULLERS AND CONSOLIDATORS FOR SMALL TREE AND CROP PRODUCERS, AND REVIVE SOME FORM OF LIVESTOCK MARKETING TO PROVIDE A WAY FOR PEOPLE TO BUY ONE OR TWO HEAD TO USE ON THE SMALL PARCELS THAT THEY HAVE.BUT WE'VE LOST THAT ABILITY WITH THE LOSS OF OUR AUCTION YARDS, AND PEOPLE DON'T KNOW HOW TO ACCESS ONLINE SALES. THANK YOU. THAT WAS OUR LAST SPEAKER.
ALL RIGHT, MOVING ON, AND THANKS AGAIN. SUPERVISOR CRAIG. JOHN, YOU CAN YOU KEEP UP REAL QUICK? WOULD YOU MIND? I HAVEN'T GRADED PAPERS, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO ASK ANY RESPONSE YOU HAVE ABOUT THAT. I THINK IT'S ONLY FAIR. RIGHT, NO, I APPRECIATE THAT, AND ULTIMATELY WE DON'T CHANGE THE NUMBERS BASED OFF OF A WHIM. WE LOOK AT THE DATA, WE LOOK AT THOSE QUESTIONNAIRES, WE TALK TO OUR GROWERS, WE MEET WITH THEM REGULARLY.
AGAIN, WE HAVE PERMIT DATA, PESTICIDE PERMIT DATA, SO ULTIMATELY EACH GROWER IN THIS COUNTY OBTAINS A PESTICIDE PERMIT IF THEY'RE APPLYING A PESTICIDE TO THEIR CROP. THEY LIST OUT THOSE COMMODITIES SPECIFICALLY, ALONG WITH THE ACREAGE, SO, FOR INSTANCE, IF WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT WALNUTS, ULTIMATELY, THEY PROVIDE US A WALNUT ACREAGE. NOW, WE HAVE THIS SET NUMBER, ULTIMATELY WE GO WITH THAT NUMBER, AND WE DO FLUCTUATE BECAUSE NOT EVERYBODY GETS A PERMIT, RIGHT? I GET THAT. THERE'S PEOPLE THAT MAY BE HOMEOWNERS, SMALL ACREAGE, THEY'RE SPRAYING THEIR COMMODITY, WHETHER OR NOT IT'S ACCORDING TO LAW, THAT'S A DIFFERENT STORY, BUT THEY'RE SPRAYING THAT. WE MAY NOT CAPTURE THAT FIGURE IN OUR CALIG PERMITS DATA, SO WE ACCOUNT FOR A LITTLE BIT OF A BUFFER FROM THE SET NUMBER THAT'S PESTICIDE PERMITS VERSUS WHAT ELSE MIGHT BE FLOATING AROUND, AND WE'RE ALSO DRIVING THIS COUNTY. WE PUT ON A LOT OF MILES, WE HAVE STAFF LOOKING WHILE THEY'RE OUT DOING THAT, HERE'S THIS, HERE'S THAT, SO THAT ALL GOES INTO THE NUMBER. I STILL FEEL LIKE WE'RE PRESENTING RELATIVELY GOOD NUMBERS. HE DOES MAKE AN HONEST STATEMENT ABOUT THE IRRIGATED PASTURE LANDS. I'VE TALKED WITH THE UC COOPERATIVE FARM ADVISOR, WE WORK CONJUNCTIVELY WITH THEM, THAT NUMBER, IT'S A DIFFICULT NUMBER TO ASK. HOW DO YOU ABSOLUTELY CAPTURE 50 ACRES DECREASING OR 100 ACRES DECREASING, ULTIMATELY, AND WHAT ABOUT THE INCREASES? THERE'S ALSO INCREASES GOING IN, SO IT IS A CHALLENGE, AND I ACKNOWLEDGE THAT CHALLENGE WITH THE IRRIGATED PASTURE AND THE NON -IRRIGATED PASTURE LAND. AGAIN, UC COOPERATIVE EXTENSION HAS SET MAPS, AND WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT AND TRYING TO MAKE OUR BEST DISTINCTION POSSIBLE, BUT THAT ONE IS ONE THAT I WOULD ACKNOWLEDGE THAT IF ANYBODY HAD A BETTER WAY TO CAPTURE THAT, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. WE SEND OUT QUESTIONNAIRES. WE DON'T GET A LOT OF QUESTIONNAIRES BACK. A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO TELL THE GOVERNMENT HOW MUCH THEY'VE MADE OR WHAT THEY'RE DOING IN THEIR LIVES, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT ASPECT OF IT AS WELL. I DON'T NECESSARILY WANT TO OPEN UP THE DOOR TO EVERYBODY KNOWING MY BUSINESS, SO I GET THAT, AND THAT'S WHERE WE HAVE TO WORK WITH THE BEST THINGS THAT ARE POSSIBLE, BASE IT OFF OF HISTORICAL DATA, BASE IT OFF OF FUTURE DATA, AND THEN USE THE NUMBERS THAT ARE PROVIDED TO US AS A ROLLING NUMBER, SO WE DO GET A LARGE MAJORITY OF THE NUMBERS, AND WE TRY TO MAKE IT UP FOR THOSE THAT WE MAY NOT HAVE RECEIVED. IT'S A CHALLENGE. I'M NOT GOING TO LIE. I JUST WANT YOU TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO I APPRECIATE THAT. IT'S REALLY EASY FOR PEOPLE TO COME UP HERE AND JUST SAY STUFF AND NOT DO THE WORK, BECAUSE I WOULD TELL ANYBODY, IF YOU HAVE ACTUAL DATA, AND ALL THIS STUFF IS FOIABLE, FOIE IT, GET THE DATA, BRING IT BACK, AND IF HE'S WRONG, I WILL BE THE FIRST TO SAY WE HAVE TO ASK CEO RICKERT TO MAKE SOME ADJUSTMENTS, BUT I JUST PROVE IT. DON'T JUST MAKE STATEMENTS. THAT'S THE HARDEST PART, TOO. THE CROP REPORT QUESTIONNAIRES ARE CONFIDENTIAL, BUT EVERYTHING ELSE, YES.
IN TERMS OF THE NUMBERS THAT ARE PROVIDED TO YOU BY WHAT'S ON THAT, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW HOW THE OTHER SUPERVISORS FEEL, BUT WE GET A REPORT LIKE YOU HAVE TO TRUST THE BEST YOU CAN WITH STAFF, AND WITH 28, 32 DEPARTMENT HEADS, I MEAN, THERE'S SOME THAT YOU TEND TO LEAN MORE BELIEVING IN OTHERS THAN YOU DON'T.
I JUST WANT TO SAY I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH JOHN ON SEVERAL DIFFERENT THINGS, AND I KNOW WHERE HIS HEAD'S AT AND HIS HEART'S AT. HE'S A FIFTH GENERATION, IS THAT WHAT HE'S? SIXTH GENERATION. FARMER, RANCHER, AND I KNOW HE CARES, AND I THINK YOU'RE DOING AN EXCELLENT
[R5 Adopt a salary resolution, effective September 20, 2026, which amends the Shasta County Classification Specifications and Salary Schedule to add a Wildlife Liaison position (Sponsored by Supervisor Harmon).]
JOB, AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, SUPERVISOR HARMON. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER INGRAM.MOVING ON. NO VOTE THERE. SO MOVING ON, BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, R5. ADOPT A SALARY RESOLUTION EFFECTIVE SEPTEMBER 20, 2026, WHICH AMENDS THE CHESTER COUNTY CLASSIFICATION, SPECIFICATIONS, AND SALARY SCHEDULE TO ADD A WILDLIFE LIAISON POSITION.
THIS IS SPONSORED BY SUPERVISOR HARMON, WHO HAS BEEN WORKING DILIGENTLY ON THIS
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FOR QUITE SOME TIME.GOOD MORNING, CHAIR KELSTRO, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, BRYCE RITCHIE, SENIOR ADMINISTRATIVE ANALYST, COUNTY ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICE. THE ITEM BEFORE YOU TODAY AMENDS THE CLASSIFICATION, SPECIFICATIONS, AND SALARY SCHEDULE TO ADD A WILDLIFE LIAISON POSITION. ONE IMPORTANT NOTE, NORMALLY WE WOULD ADD THE POSITION TO THE SALARY SCHEDULE AND ADOPT THE CLASSIFICATION SPECIFICATIONS LIKE WE ARE TODAY. AND AT THE SAME TIME, WE WOULD UPDATE THE POSITION ALLOCATION LIST AND IF NEEDED, UPDATE THE BUDGET TO ACCOUNT FOR COSTS FOR THE ADDED POSITION. THE STATE IS REQUIRING THAT WE HAVE A FULLY APPROVED CLASSIFICATION SPECIFICATION BEFORE THEY ALLOCATE FUNDING.
SO THE PROPOSED ITEM TODAY WILL JUST ADD THE POSITION TO THEIR SALARY SCHEDULE AND ADOPT THE CLASS SPECS. THIS DOES NOT ADD THE POSITION TO THIS YEAR'S BUDGET. ONCE WE MEET WITH THE STATE, WE WILL RETURN WITH THE BOARD WITH AN TIME TO UPDATE THE POSITION ALLOCATION LIST AND WE WOULD KNOW AT THAT TIME IF THE POSITION IS GOING TO BE FUNDED BY THE STATE OR IF WE WOULD BE LOOKING FOR ANOTHER SOURCE OF FUNDING.
AND ONE IMPORTANT NOTE, I KNOW WOLVES HAVE BEEN THE MAIN POINT OF DISCUSSION, BUT WE WENT WITH WILDLIFE LIAISON AS THE TITLE ON THIS ONE FOR APPLICABILITY TO OTHER ISSUES THAT WE SAW.
MOST RECENTLY IN THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION, THERE WAS CONVERSATION ABOUT ADDING BEARS AND WE'VE SEEN IT AS SUPERVISOR HARMON'S MENTIONED WITH THE SPOTTED OWL BEFORE.
SO THIS GIVES US THE BEST ABILITY TO BE AGILE AND TO ADAPT TO ANYTHING THAT COMES UP.
THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AS IS JOHN INGRAM. AND GOOD MOVE MAKING IT A WILDLIFE LIAISON INSTEAD OF A WOLF LIAISON. AND SO THE PUBLIC KNOWS WHAT A WOLF LIAISON IS. SO IF YOU HAVE A CATTLE KILL ON YOUR PROPERTY, A LOT OF RANCHERS DON'T WANT THE GOVERNMENT, IF YOU WILL, ALL OVER THEIR PROPERTY. SO THIS IS KIND OF A GO -BETWEEN POSITION WHERE IT'S SOMEBODY THE RANCHERS TRUST MORE THAN THE DEPARTMENT OF FISH AND GAME OR THE U .S. DEPARTMENT OF FISH AND WILDLIFE SERVICE.
SO IT'S A POSITION FOR THE RANCHERS THAT THEY CAN GO AND INVESTIGATE WITHOUT HAVING FISH AND WILDLIFE ALL OVER THEIR PROPERTY OR, YOU KNOW, SOME OTHER GOVERNMENT AGENCY.
THEY'RE DOING IT IN A COUPLE OTHER COUNTIES.
SO SUPERVISOR HARMON'S BEEN WORKING VERY HARD ON THIS. SO SUPERVISOR LONG.
THANK YOU, CHAIR. THANK YOU, BRYCE, FOR BEING AVAILABLE FOR THE QUESTIONS.
I'LL JUST SAY I SPOKE WITH PAT GRIFFITH, WHO IS THE WOLF LIAISON IN SISKIYOU COUNTY WHERE THEY HAVE THE LARGEST OUTBREAK OF WOLF PROBLEMS. SO I SPOKE TO HIM DIRECTLY AND TRIED TO GET HIS FEEDBACK AS TO WAS THIS A VALUABLE POSITION. SO HE HAS JUST STEPPED DOWN FROM THAT POSITION AND HE IS TRANSITIONING TO SOMEONE THAT WILL HAVE, I GUESS, BETTER IMPROVED GIS, GPS MAPPING SKILLS. SO HE'S GOING TO TRAIN HER IN THIS POSITION. AND WHAT HE MENTIONED WAS YOU WANT SOMEBODY BECAUSE THE CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT OF FISH AND WILDLIFE, THEY DO CONVEY INFORMATION DIRECTLY TO THE SHERIFF. BUT UNLESS YOU HAVE A DEDICATED PERSON, THIS WAS A KEY COMPONENT TO HIM, HAVING A DEDICATED PERSON THAT'S LOOKING AT ALL OF THAT IN REAL TIME AND TRYING TO LOOK FOR CLUSTERS OF WOLVES AND LOOK FOR IF A WOLF PACK STAYS IN AN AREA TOO LONG, THEN THAT COULD MEAN THAT THEY'RE FEEDING ON LIVESTOCK AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. SO HE HIGHLY RECOMMENDED THE POSITION. SO I GUESS MY QUESTIONS ARE FOR YOU, AND I'VE SPOKEN A LITTLE BIT WITH STUART ABOUT THIS, IS THAT THE GENERAL FUND HIT.
WE HAVE TROUBLE WITH THE GENERAL FUND HIT. BUT WHAT I UNDERSTAND IS WE CREATE THE CLASSIFICATION AND THEN WE CAN APPLY FOR STATE FUNDING, WHICH WILL FUND A PORTION OF THIS POSITION. AND THIS IS A REALLOCATION POTENTIALLY WITHIN COMMISSIONER INGRAM'S DEPARTMENT TO THIS RECLASSIFICATION FOR AN EXISTING POSITION. IF I'M GETTING THIS RIGHT, FOR AN EXISTING POSITION, IT'S JUST KIND OF A RECLASSIFICATION AT THAT POINT. AND IT WILL ALREADY BE PARTIALLY FUNDED.
IS THAT THE CASE? SO TWO DISTINCTIONS. THIS WOULD BE, WE WOULD BE ADDING A POSITION HERE. THIS WOULD BE A RECLASSIFICATION OF AN EXISTING POSITION. THERE ARE SOME ADDITIONAL COSTS IN ADDITION TO SALARIES AND BENEFITS, OBVIOUSLY, WITH EACH POSITION, WORKSTATION, VEHICLE, FUEL, GEAR, THAT KIND OF THING. AND SO WE, SEVERAL MONTHS AGO, JOHN AND I WORKED TOGETHER TO PUT TOGETHER A PROPOSAL AND SEND IT TO THE STATE BASED ON PRELIMINARY NUMBERS. UM, WE HAVE A MORE ACCURATE, UH, I WOULD SAY IDEA OF WHAT THAT IS NOW THAT WE KNOW WHAT THE, UM, BASED ON THE SALARY SCHEDULE PROVIDED BY, UH, SUPPORT SERVICES LOOKS LIKE.
UM, BUT THE GOAL WOULD BE TO GET THE ENTIRE THING FUNDED BY THE STATE. UM, AND SO THAT'S GOING TO BE OUR ASK, UM, WHAT
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THEY RESPOND WITH. I DON'T KNOW. UM, BUT ONCE WE GET, HAVE THAT CONVERSATION AND COME BACK, WE WOULD KNOW WHETHER OR NOT THEY'RE GOING TO FUND THE WHOLE THING AND WHAT THE DIFFERENCE WOULD BE IN THE COSTS THAT WOULD NEED TO COME FROM ANOTHER FUNDING SOURCE.AND, AND WHAT I UNDERSTAND IS THAT IN ORDER TO BE ELIGIBLE FOR STATE FUNDING, WE HAVE TO CREATE THE CLASSIFICATION FOR THE POSITION FIRST TO BE ELIGIBLE TO APPLY FOR THAT. SO, UM, IS THIS A GENERAL FUND ASK AT THIS POINT FOR THIS POSITION? IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE IT IS. NO. SO, SO AT, AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE, WE CREATE THE CLASSIFICATION TODAY FOR THIS POSITION AND THEN WE SEEK STATE FUNDING, WHICH COULD FUND THIS POSITION ENTIRELY, POTENTIALLY, RIGHT? WE DON'T HAVE ANY GUARANTEES OF THAT. WHEN WOULD THIS DISCUSSION, WOULD THIS POSITION GO FORWARD IF STATE FUNDING DOES NOT PROVIDE THE SALARY OFFSET AND WHAT, WHAT WOULD WE, WOULD THE BOARD HAVE A CHANCE TO WEIGH IN AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE IF IT BECAME A GENERAL FUND POSITION? YEAH.
SO REGARDLESS, WE'LL RETURN TO THE, THE BOARD WITH THE OUTCOME OF OUR CONVERSATION WITH THE STATE, LETTING YOU KNOW WHERE IT WENT.
AND, UH, IN ORDER TO FILL THE POSITION, WE WOULD STILL HAVE TO, UM, COME BACK AND UPDATE THE POSITION ALLOCATION LIST AND WHICH WOULD, UM, ALLOW US TO ADD A POSITION TO THE BUDGET. UM, AND SO THAT'S A BOARD DECISION. UH, IF THERE ISN'T A DIFFERENCE IN COSTS, YOU KNOW, IF THE STATE'S ONLY WILLING TO FUND, LET'S SAY HYPOTHETICALLY 50 % AND THERE WOULD BE A 50 % THAT THIS COUNTY NEEDED TO COVER, THAT'S ALSO A BOARD DECISION.
SO REGARDLESS, WE'LL RETURN TO THE BOARD. AND AT THAT TIME, YOU'LL BE, THIS BODY WOULD BE ABLE TO DETERMINE IF THEY WANTED TO ADD THE POSITION AND IF THEY WANTED TO PROVIDE ANY NECESSARY FUNDING FOR IT. SO WHAT WE'RE DOING TODAY WOULD BE TO CREATE THE POSITION SO THAT WE CAN APPLY FOR STATE FUNDING AND THEN IT WILL COME BACK TO THE BOARD FOR ANY FUTURE ALLOCATIONS IF THEY WERE TO AFFECT THE, THE GENERAL FUND. YEAH, WE'RE JUST CREATING A CLASS SPEC TODAY AND APPROVING THE SALARY FOR IT. OKAY. THANK YOU.
SUPERVISOR HERMAN. UM, I JUST, JUST, THIS IS JUST INFORMATIONAL. SO IN THE MEETING THAT WE HAD, UH, WEDNESDAY, UM, WITH FISH AND GAME, UH, WE PRESSED THE ISSUE OF, UH, OF NEEDING TO, UH, UH, PUT OUR AREAS IN ZONES BECAUSE THE, THE AREA THAT'S BEING AFFECTED THE MOST IN CALIFORNIA IS I -80 NORTH AND I -5 EAST. THAT WHOLE NORTHEAST, UH, CORNER OF THE STATE IS WHERE WE'RE HAVING ALL THE IMPACTS WITH WOLVES. WHAT WE'RE, WHAT WE LEARNED THOUGH WAS, AND WE ASKED THEM, WELL, CAN WE, CAN WE DO THE WOLF COUNTS SPECIFIC TO THAT AREA? BECAUSE WE'RE, WE'RE ALREADY REACHING, IF YOU LOOK AT IDAHO, IDAHO, UH, SAID THEY GOT TO ABOUT 500 WOLVES STATEWIDE. AXEL HUNCUTT, WHO'S THE HEAD WOLF BIOLOGIST FOR THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA, SAID THAT HE THOUGHT THAT THAT SAME AREA THAT I JUST DESCRIBED COULD HANDLE UP TO 500 WOLVES.
WELL, THAT'S THE AMOUNT THAT THEY HAD IN THE WHOLE STATE OF IDAHO AND THEY HAD TO, THEY HAD TO TURN, TURN AROUND AND DEAL WITH THE WOLVES AND, AND PUT TAGS OUT AND START HUNTING THEM BECAUSE THEY GOT OUT OF CONTROL. WELL, WE'RE, WE'RE APPROACHING THAT POINT OR WE'RE AT THAT POINT IN THAT LITTLE AREA, BUT THE FISH AND GAME IS, UH, WAITING TO REACH THEIR GOALS, UH, AS FAR AS, UH, POPULATION FOR THE WHOLE STATE. WELL, IF THEY'RE GONNA REACH THE GOAL FOR THE WHOLE STATE, YOU CAN IMAGINE WHAT IT'S GONNA HAVE TO DO IN THIS LITTLE AREA UP HERE.
WELL, WE DIDN'T GET ANYWHERE WITH THAT CONVERSATION, DID WE? NO. SO THE, THE, WHAT I'M SAYING IS THIS, THIS PROBLEM IS GOING TO GET WAY WORSE. IT'S NOT GOING TO GET BETTER. SO I APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SUPERVISOR HERMAN. SUPERVISOR CRAIG.
YEAH, EVERYTHING'S BEEN ANSWERED. I JUST WANT TO, I MEAN, I'M GOING TO SUPPORT THIS AND THIS IS LIKE THE FIRST STEP OF WHAT WOULD BE A TON OF STEPS. SO. SUPERVISOR PLUMMER.
YEAH. MY QUESTION IS, UH, RELATED TO THE BUDGET THAT YOU PREPARED FOR THE STATE, WAS THAT, UH, BASED ON A FULL -TIME ROLE? IT WAS. YEAH. AND I'M CURIOUS ABOUT THAT BECAUSE, AND, AND I WAS, UH, EMAILING WITH, UH, JOHN ABOUT THIS. IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S ABOUT EIGHT TO 10 WOLF ENCOUNTERS A YEAR IN SHASTA COUNTY. THERE WAS FOUR EITHER PROBABLE DEATHS OR, UH, INJURIES TO LIVESTOCK. THAT NUMBER FEELS SMALL FOR A FULL -TIME PERSON TO BE ENGAGING, YOU KNOW, AROUND WITH ONE WOLF PACK. AND IT LOOKS LIKE, YOU KNOW, PLUMAS, UH, MODOC, UH, SOME OF THESE OTHER COUNTIES HAVE ROUGHLY THE SAME NUMBER. I'M CURIOUS IF WE'VE LOOKED INTO, AND MAYBE THIS IS A QUESTION FOR SUPERVISOR HARMON, BUT, UH, A REGIONAL POSITION THAT SHARES THAT ACROSS VERSUS, AND MAYBE THEY'RE HOUSED OUT OF RCRC OR, OR I KNOW, UM, IT SOUNDS LIKE IN SIERRA PLUMAS, THEY'RE USING THE RCD, THE RESOURCE CONSERVATION DISTRICT, WHO HASN'T.
BUT I'M JUST, I'M KIND OF SURPRISED THAT WE WOULD NEED A
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FULL -TIME PERSON TO HANDLE, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS, IT SOUNDS LIKE ONE, ONE, LESS THAN ONE MONTH, WOLF ENCOUNTER. THOSE ARE REPORTED NUMBERS, SUPERVISOR PLUMMER. AND I JUST STATED TO THE PUBLIC, THERE'S A LOT OF RANCHERS THAT DO NOT WANT THE FISH AND GAME OR FISH AND WILDLIFE SERVICE ON THEIR PROPERTY. SO THE, SO WE WERE UP IN, UH, FOLLOWER MILLS AND THAT RANCHER REPORTED HE HAD, WHAT, SIX OR EIGHT WOLF KILLS THAT HE DID NOT REPORT. BECAUSE HE DOESN'T WANT THE, HE DOESN'T WANT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT OR THE STATE GOVERNMENT ON THIS PROPERTY.SO HE DOESN'T REPORT THEM. SO THIS IS A POSITION HERE THAT THE RANCHERS WILL TRUST MORE THAN THEY TRUST FEDERAL OR STATE GOVERNMENT COMING ONTO THE PROPERTY. SO THERE'S, IT'S A MUCH BIGGER PROBLEM THAN THE ONES THAT ARE BEING REPORTED.
SO WE THINK THAT A GOVERNMENT POSITION AT THE COUNTY LEVEL WILL BE MORE TRUST THAT'S LIAISIZING VERSUS LOOKING TO, BECAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE, UH, IN SISKIYOU COUNTY, THAT WAS PART OF THE CHALLENGE IS THAT THERE WASN'T THAT TRUST, YOU KNOW, WITH THE EXISTING LIAISON EMPLOYED BY THE COUNTY. SO.
YEAH. YOU DEFINITELY HAVE TO BUILD RAPPORT WITH THEM AND YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FIND SOMEBODY THAT THE RANCHERS TRUST.
THE OTHER THING TO KEEP IN MIND IS, UH, THE REASON WE WENT WITH WILDLIFE LIAISON IS THIS IS, THIS IS NOT GOING TO STOP WITH THE WOLVES, BUT, BUT THERE IS LIKE, LIKE SUPERVISOR KELSEN SAYING THAT.
I, I, I MADE SOME PHONE CALLS BECAUSE I HAD AN INTERVIEW COMING UP, UH, WITH A NEWS REPORTER SOME WEEKS BACK AND I THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, I'M GOING TO, I'M JUST GOING TO CALL AND GET SOME UPDATES.
SO I CALLED SOME OF THE RANCHERS THAT I, THAT I KNEW AND I SAID, CAN YOU GIVE ME AN IDEA? AND HOLY SMOKES, IT WAS LIKE THE PHONE WAS BLOWING UP.
THEY, THEY'RE HAVING, THEY'RE STILL HAVING ALL THESE PROBLEMS, BUT THEY'RE NOT GETTING ANY HELP. SO THEY'RE, SO THEY'RE, UH, YOU KNOW, VIRTUALLY GOING UNREPORTED, BUT IF THEY, IF THEY HAVE AN AVENUE, UH, THAT'S EFFECTIVE, UH, SOMEBODY THEY CAN GO TO, THOSE THERE, THEN WE'RE GOING TO START SEEING THE REAL ACCURATE NUMBERS. I HAD ONE RANCHER UP THERE, UH, THAT SAID THEY, THEY HAD JUST ONE RANCHER.
THEY HAD LOST, UH, 13, UH, THIS SEASON THAT THEY KNEW OF, BUT WHEN THEY BROUGHT COWS IN FROM CERTAIN RANGES, THEY, THEY WERE MISSING CALVES, UH, WITH COWS AND THE HEAD COUNT WAS EVEN HIGHER. IT WAS, IT WAS OVER 20 AND THEY, AND THAT WAS ONE RANCHER AND THEY HAD NO WAY TO, TO, UH, KEEP UP WITH PROVING, YOU KNOW, WHERE THEY WENT, BUT THEY'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR YEARS. WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU BRING ALL YOUR COWS IN AND YOU'RE MISSING CALVES OR MISSING A COW SOMETIMES, UH, THEY'RE, THEY'RE JUST OUT THERE IN THE TIMBER, A FEW SCATTERED BONES BY NOW, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T KEEP UP WITH IT, BUT ANYWAYS, UH, AND THEN THE OTHER THING, SUPERVISOR PLUMBER IS, UH, CORK AND I BOTH HAVE A FRIEND THAT'S A RANCHER. UH, HE WAS REPORTED THAT THERE WAS WOLVES ON HIS PROPERTY, UM, THAT THEY, THE RADIO TRACKING COLLARS CAUGHT HIM THERE. HE WENT UP THERE AND INVESTIGATED THERE WAS A DEAD CALF. HE CALLED IN THE FISH AND WILDLIFE SERVICE AND THEY SAID THEY COULDN'T CONFIRM THAT IT WAS A WOLF KILL. SO THIS IS, AGAIN, I MEAN, HE'S GOT THE TRACKING DATA THAT THE COLLAR WAS IN THAT LOCATION WHERE THIS DEAD CALF IS AND THEY SAID THEY COULDN'T CONFIRM IT AS A WOLF KILL. AND IF THEY DO CONFIRM IT AS A WOLF KILL, SOMETIMES IT TAKES A YEAR FOR THEM TO GET PAID.
OKAY. AND I JUST HAVE ONE NOTE IS THAT AGAIN, THIS DOESN'T ADD THE POSITION WHEN IT COMES BACK. THE BOARD CAN MAKE THOSE DETERMINATIONS FULL -TIME, PART -TIME. ARE YOU GOOD? RIGHT.
YEAH. SUNSET. YEAH. WHEN WE DID OUR BUDGET, I DIDN'T WANT TO UNDERESTIMATE AND THEN THE STATE SAY, WELL, WHY DIDN'T YOU GIVE US THOSE COSTS AHEAD OF TIME? SO JOHN AND I LOOKED AT IT FROM A, WHAT, WHAT IS THE POTENTIAL IMPACT OF THE COUNTY TO ACCOUNT FOR THOSE? SUPERVISOR LONG, DO YOU HAVE MORE QUESTIONS OR? OKAY.
PART OF MY RESEARCH ON THIS PROJECT, I REACHED OUT TO FORMER SUPERVISOR MARY RICKERT BECAUSE SHE'S GOT A RANCH UP IN SISKIYOU COUNTY.
AND SHE HAD BEEN IN CONTACT WITH THE HEAD OF THE CATTLEMEN'S ASSOCIATION, WHO'S BACK IN DC, RICK ROBERTI. AND I'M JUST CURIOUS, YOU KNOW, THEY HAD COMMUNICATED AS TO HIM BRINGING UP SOME OF THESE ISSUES WITH THIS ISSUE IN SISKIYOU COUNTY. AND I'M CURIOUS IF WE'RE SEEKING OUT FEDERAL FUNDING, AND I DIDN'T GET AN ANSWER TO THIS, IF WE'RE SEEKING OUT FEDERAL FUNDING IN ADDITION TO STATE FUNDING FOR THESE KINDS OF POSITIONS.
WE'VE TALKED TO THE USDA TRAPPER ABOUT THAT AND IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THERE'S GOING TO BE FEDERAL FUNDING. OKAY.
ALL RIGHT. SO WITH THAT, LET'S GO AHEAD AND TAKE A VOTE.
THIS IS JUST A RE -CLASSIFICATION SO THAT WE CAN IN THE FUTURE POSSIBLY HIRE A WOLF LIAISON, EXCUSE ME, WILDLIFE LIAISON OFFICER. ALL RIGHT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? REAL QUICK, CHAIR, WE DON'T HAVE A MOTION. I KNOW, OKAY.
SUPERVISOR HERMAN, WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION SINCE THIS IS YOURS? CAN YOU REPEAT THAT? SORRY, YOUR MICROPHONE WASN'T ON. I JUST TURNED IT ON FOR YOU. CAN YOU REPEAT YOUR MOTION? I WILL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE CREATE THIS POSITION. SECOND.
MOTION WAS MADE BY SUPERVISOR HARMON, SECOND BY SUPERVISOR CRY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE.
ANY OPPOSED? PASSES 5 -0. ALL RIGHT. MOVING ON. I'M SORRY.
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WE HAVE TO BACK UP A LITTLE BIT. WE'RE MOVING TOO QUICKLY. WE'LL HAVE TO RETAKE THAT VOTE. WE DO HAVE TWO SPEAKERS. THANK YOU. OH, I'M SORRY.FIRST UP, KIM MOORE FOLLOWED BY SHASTA COUNTY WATCHDOG.
OKAY. AND SHASTA COUNTY WATCHDOG? THEY BOTH PASSED,
[R6 Introduce and waive the reading of “An Ordinance of the Board of Supervisors of the County of Shasta Amending Section 8.32.121 of the Shasta County Code to Increase the Reward Amount for Information Leading to an Arrest and Conviction for Unlawful Dumping” (Sponsored by Supervisor Kelstrom).]
SO VOTES TWO STANDS. ALL RIGHT.MOVING ON TO R6. INTRODUCE AND WAIVE THE READING OF AN ORDINANCE OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS OF THE COUNTY OF SHASTA, AMENDING SECTION 8 .32 .121 OF THE SHASTA COUNTY CODE TO INCREASE THE REWARD AMOUNT FOR INFORMATION LEADING TO THE ARRESTING CONVICTION FOR UNLAWFUL DUMPING. I BROUGHT THIS FORWARD. QUITE FRANKLY, MY, WELL, SEVERAL OF OUR DISTRICTS, BUT MY DISTRICT IN PARTICULAR, I GET TRAILERS DUMPED AND CARS DUMPED AND I, COUCHES AND WASHERS AND IT SEEMS LIKE WE HAD ONE ON A PANORAMA ROAD AND I REACHED OUT TO PUBLIC WORKS AND RESOURCE MANAGEMENT BOTH. I SHOULD HAVE REACHED OUT RIGHT TO THE SHERIFF BECAUSE THAT ENDED UP BEING THE JURISDICTION OF IT. BY THE TIME WE GOT IT TAKEN CARE OF, IT WAS A BIG GIANT FIFTH WHEEL TRAILER. BY THE TIME IT WAS TAKEN CARE OF, A WEEK INTO IT, SOMEBODY TOOK ALL THE TIRES AND RIMS OFF OF IT. A FEW WEEKS LATER, THEY TOOK ALL THE AXLES OFF OF IT AND IT WAS, IT WAS QUITE THE MESS. SO THIS HOPEFULLY WILL, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST PUT A LITTLE TEETH IN THERE IF SOMEBODY CATCHES SOMEBODY DUMPING. I BELIEVE I GAVE THE SHERIFF A PHOTO OF A PICKUP THAT WAS DUMPING A TRAILER AND WE HAD THE LICENSE PLATE NUMBER. SO I SHOULD HAVE TURNED MYSELF IN FOR THE REWARD, HUH, SHERIFF? BUT ANYWAY, ALL RIGHT. I'LL MAKE A MOTION.
WELL, HOLD ON, HOLD ON. HE'S GOING TO DO A PRESENTATION.
GOOD AFTERNOON. AGAIN, CHAIR KELSTROM, YOU COVERED MOST OF IT, SO I'LL BE QUICK. THIS IS, THIS ITEM IS IN RESPONSE TO BOARD DIRECTION DURING THE AUGUST 11TH BOARD MEETING, IN WHICH THE BOARD DIRECTS STAFF TO RETURN WITH AN ORDINANCE TO INCREASE THE REWARD THRESHOLD FROM $500 TO $1 ,000 FOR INFORMATION LEADING TO AN UNREST AND CONVICTION FOR UNLAWFUL DUMPING. STAFF RECOMMEND THAT THE BOARD INTRODUCE AND WAIVE THE READING OF THE SUBJECT ORDINANCE.
FOLLOWING APPROVAL BY THE BOARD, STAFF WILL RETURN WITH AN ITEM TO ENACT THE ORDINANCE AT THE SEPTEMBER 29TH MEETING. THE CHANGE IN CODE WOULD GO INTO EFFECT 30 DAYS AFTER THE DAY OF ENACTMENT, AND I'M HERE IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS. AND I WOULD LIKE TO. I KNOW WE TALKED WITH COUNTY COUNCIL A LITTLE BIT, AND I WOULD LIKE TO KIND OF REVISIT THAT, TOO. I DON'T KNOW. WHEN I WAS, I MEAN, 50 YEARS AGO, THE FINE FOR ILLEGAL DUMPING, WE HAD WOODY THE OWL, GIVE A HOOT, DON'T POLLUTE, AND IT WAS LIKE A $1 ,000 FINE. WELL, WOW, THAT SEEMED LIKE A LOT OF MONEY BACK IN, YOU KNOW, 1974. NOW, $1 ,000, I MEAN, PEOPLE MAKE THAT IN AN HOUR, AND IT'S LIKE THAT FINE IS STILL $1 ,000. WE'VE NEVER INCREASED THAT. SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE WERE ABLE TO, ON THE COUNTY LEVEL, INCREASE THAT FINE, OR IS THAT A STATE JURISDICTION TYPE OF THING? I CAN SPEAK TO THAT A LITTLE BIT. I SPOKE WITH THE DA IN PREPARATION FOR THAT, AND IT'S SET BY PENAL CODE, ACTUALLY.
THERE'S A RANGE. THERE'S SEPARATE TIERS, BOTH FOR A NUMBER OF INFRACTIONS AS WELL AS THE SEVERITY OF THE DUMPING, RIGHT, IF THEY DUMP A COUCH VERSUS IF THEY DUMP 10 ,000 COUCHES. AND THAT AMOUNT IS SET BY THE JUDGE WHEN THE HEARING IS SET. SO, I MEAN, WE COULD GO LEGISLATIVELY AND LOOK FOR AN UPDATE TO MAKE THAT PENALTY MORE SEVERE, BUT AT THIS LEVEL, THE BOARD DOESN'T HAVE ANY AUTHORITY TO INCREASE THOSE. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM? WE DO, CHAIR. WE HAVE ONE SPEAKER, KIM MOORE. OKAY. AND SHE PASSES. SO WITH THAT, I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO GO AHEAD. IS THAT ONE QUESTION? YES. SUPERVISOR PLANNER. DO WE KNOW HOW MANY REWARDS WE'VE PAID OUT AT THE CURRENT RATE OVER THE LAST YEAR OR WHATEVER TIME PERIOD? GOING BACK TWO YEARS, I HADN'T SEEN ANY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. HOPEFULLY THIS WILL GET THE WORD OUT AND THAT THERE IS A REWARD AVAILABLE AND PEOPLE WILL TURN IN MORE PEOPLE FOR ILLEGALLY DUMPING. SO WITH THAT, I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO AN INTEGRATOR. I'LL SECOND IT.
ALL RIGHT. I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO WHAT DO WE WANT TO DO TO ACCEPT THIS, ACCEPT THIS NEW ORDINANCE, AND SUPERVISOR HARMON'S SECOND ON THE MOTION. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? PASSES 5 -0. AND CHAIR, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, I JUST WANT
[R7 Take the following actions: (1) Approve a letter to the City of Redding (“City”) terminating the lease with the City for 7251 Eastside Road, Redding and 7051 Eastside Road, Anderson; (2) consider forming an ad hoc committee to evaluate the Community Reentry Center Project (“Project”) and identify alternative Project sites to be brought back to the Board for consideration; and (3) consider providing additional direction to staff (Sponsored by Supervisors Kelstrom and Plummer).]
TO SAY THAT YOU'RE JUST APPROVING THE INTRODUCTION.THIS WILL COME BACK FOR ENACTMENT AT THE NEXT MEETING. YES.
MOVING ON. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, BRYCE. TAKE THE FOLLOWING ACTIONS. APPROVE A LETTER TO THE CITY OF REDDING, TERMINATING THE LEASE WITH THE CITY FOR 7251 EASTSIDE ROAD, REDDING, AND 705051 EASTSIDE ROAD, ANDERSON. CONSIDER FORMING AN AD HOC COMMITTEE TO EVALUATE THE COMMUNITY RE -ENTRY CENTER PROJECT AND IDENTIFY ALTERNATIVE PROJECT SITES TO BE BROUGHT BACK TO THE BOARD FOR CONSIDERATION. AND THREE, CONSIDER PROVIDING ADDITIONAL DIRECTION TO STAFF SPONSORED BY SUPERVISOR KALLSTROM, MYSELF, AND PLUMMER. I'M GOING TO WANT TO BREAK THIS OUT BECAUSE I DEFINITELY, THE NUMBER ONE IS WHAT I WANT TO DEFINITELY TAKE A VOTE FOR IMMEDIATELY AND GET THAT OUT OF THE WAY. SO, DO WE HAVE ANY SORT OF A PRESENTATION ON THIS? CHAIR, NO. WELL, UNLESS YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M SURE.
I'M SURE WE'LL HAVE SOME PUBLIC COMMENT. YES. WE HAVE TWO SPEAKERS. FIRST UP, KIM MOORE, FOLLOWED BY MICHAEL JOHNSON.
OKAY. SHE PASSES. MICHAEL JOHNSON, COME ON UP.
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THANK YOU, CHAIR, BOARD. MY SPEAKING POINT IS MORE ON THE SECOND PART OF THE ISSUE ON THE AD HOC COMMITTEE, BUT AS FAR AS THE LEASE GOES, I AM ALL FOR TERMINATING THAT LEASE AND RETURNING THAT PROPERTY BACK BECAUSE IT'S JUST NOT BUILDABLE AND NO LONGER SUITABLE FOR OUR PROJECT. DO YOU WANT ME TO SPEAK ON THE OTHER, THE SECOND PART OF IT NOW? YEAH. SO, THE AD HOC COMMITTEE, I'VE ACTUALLY HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS WITH SUPERVISOR PLUMMER WHO BROUGHT THIS FORWARD, AND I AM NOT FOR AN AD HOC COMMITTEE BECAUSE I'M NOT FOR SLOWING DOWN THE PROGRESS OF GETTING THROUGH THE PROPOSAL OF THE PROPERTIES AND THE PROCESS THAT GOES. NOW, MAYBE SOMEWHERE DOWN THE ROAD AS IT GOES, YOU CAN FORM A COMMITTEE TO HELP WITH SOME OF THE DETAILS FARTHER, BUT WE WENT THROUGH THIS PROCESS VERY SMOOTHLY FOR A LOT OF PARTS OF IT. I MEAN, I ADMIT I MADE SOME MISTAKES AND COULD DO SOME STUFF BETTER AS WE MOVE FORWARD ON THIS PROJECT GOING HENCEFORTH, BUT I HAD TWO SUPERVISORS INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS, KEVIN CRY AND MATT PLUMMER, WHICH WE IDENTIFIED THAT PROPERTY. THAT CAME TO YOU AS A BOARD IN CLOSED SESSION. IF YOU REMEMBER, THOSE WERE SURPLUS PROPERTIES THAT WERE FREE, BASICALLY, OPPOSED TO GOING AND SEARCHING FOR PROPERTIES WE MAY POTENTIALLY HAVE TO BUY. WE HANDLED, KEVIN CRY DID AN INCREDIBLE JOB WITH THE RELATIONSHIP OF THE NON -PROFIT TO MANAGE THE MCRP. MATT PLUMMER DID A GREAT JOB LOBBYING SOME OF THE LEGISLATORS AND GETTING MONIES POTENTIALLY POINTED OUR WAY. I THINK THE THE PROCESS WAS FLAWLESS. SO WE HAD FLAWLESS AS FAR AS INVOLVEMENT WITH THE COUNTY. WE HAD COUNTY COUNCIL INVOLVED, WE HAD PUBLIC WORKS INVOLVED, WE HAD BOARD OF SUPERVISORS INVOLVED, NEED TO DO A BETTER JOB ENGAGEMENT WITH THE PUBLIC AND SOME OTHER THINGS I KNOW. CHAIR, THAT WAS OUR ONLY SPEAKER. AWESOME.THANK YOU, SHERIFF. AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHY I WANTED TO BREAK THIS OUT INTO THREE.
SO THE PORTION THAT I PUT ON THERE WAS TO BASICALLY SEND THE LETTER SAYING THAT WE'RE NO LONGER INTERESTED IN THIS PROPERTY AND MOVING FORWARD WITH IT. NOW HAD WE, ONCE THE SHERIFF SAID HE'S NOT GOING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT, THE LEASE SPECIFICALLY SAID WE HAD TO MAKE PROGRESS ON IT OR THE LEASE WOULD END ANYWAYS. BUT I KNOW THERE'S SOME CONCERNED CITIZENS OUT THERE THAT WANT TO SEE THE STAKE DRIVEN INTO THE HEART OF THIS WHOLE THING. SO I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE LETTER TO THE CITY OF READING, TERMINATING THE LEASE OF THE CITY FOR EASTSIDE ROAD AND IN READING AND ANDERSON.
SO THAT'S MY MOTION. I WANT TO SEND THAT LETTER. NO SECOND.
I HEARD CORKI FIRST. SO I'M GOING TO MOTION WAS MADE BY ME, SECOND BY SUPERVISOR HARMON. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? PASSES 5 -0.
ALL RIGHT. PART TWO, CONSIDER FORMING AN AD HOC COMMITTEE TO EVALUATE THE COMMUNITY REENTRY CENTER PROJECT AND IDENTIFY ALTERNATIVE PROJECT SITES TO BE BROUGHT BACK TO THE BOARD FOR CONSIDERATION. SUPERVISOR PLUMMER, THIS WAS YOUR PART.
SO I'LL LET YOU TAKE IT FROM THERE. YES. MY, YOU KNOW, THINKING ON THIS IS I THINK THERE'S TWO STEPS IN THE PROCESS THAT COULD HAVE GONE BETTER. AND, YOU KNOW, THE FIRST WAS THE WAY THAT THE PROPERTY WAS SELECTED. I THINK, YOU KNOW, AND I KNOW A NUMBER OF US WERE IN A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS WITH THE COMMUNITY ABOUT THIS, AND THERE WAS A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HOW WAS THAT SITE SELECTED? WHAT OTHER SITES WERE CONSIDERED? YOU KNOW, THE FEELING THAT THAT WASN'T A PUBLIC PROCESS. NOW, I DON'T THINK, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT WAS FAIRLY PUBLIC, BUT THERE WASN'T A FORMAL GROUP THAT WAS LOOKING AT IT. IT WAS UNCLEAR HOW WE GOT TO THE ORIGINAL THREE THAT WERE PRESENTED IN JANUARY OF 2025.
AND SO I THINK HAVING A MORE FORMAL PROCESS WHERE WE DO HAVE, YOU KNOW, A GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT INCLUDES THE KEY STAKEHOLDERS. IN MY MIND, THAT WOULD BE SOMEONE FROM THE CAO'S OFFICE, LIKELY BRYCE, WHO WORKS ON THE REAL ESTATE ISSUES, SOMEONE FROM PUBLIC WORKS WHO WOULD BE INVOLVED WITH CONSTRUCTION AND GOING THROUGH THE ENVIRONMENTAL, AND THEN SOMEONE FROM COUNTY COUNCIL WHO, YOU KNOW, IS USED TO ADVISING ON THE CEQA -RELATED LITIGATION, THAT THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO HAVE A MORE ROBUST PROCESS UP FRONT SO THAT THE COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, UNDERSTANDS THAT THIS IS A COUNTY -WIDE SELECTION PROCESS.
BECAUSE I THINK THERE ARE ALSO, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF ALLEGATIONS TOSSED AROUND, AROUND, OH, THIS WAS SO -AND -SO SELECTING IT FOR THIS REASON. AND SO IF WE BROADEN THAT TO BE SOMETHING THAT A GROUP IS BRINGING AND PRESENTING TO THE BOARD, I THINK THAT WILL BE A SAFER AND, YOU KNOW, MORE ACCEPTABLE WAY OF DOING IT. AND THEN ALSO, THE PROCESS BY WHICH THIS PROJECT WAS CANCELED AT THAT SITE, YOU KNOW, I WAS, YOU KNOW, NOT SUPPORTIVE OF THE WAY THAT THAT HAPPENED IN THE SENSE THAT I THINK IT WOULD HAVE BEEN GREAT FOR US TO BE BROUGHT IN ON THAT FOR COUNTY COUNCIL AND TO BE BROUGHT IN ON THAT AS WELL AND TO HAVE A VOICE IN MAKING THAT DETERMINATION
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AT THAT TIME. AND SO I THINK THIS WILL ENABLE US TO BE IN A POSITION TO HAVE A BROADER SET OF STAKEHOLDERS SHARING RESPONSIBILITY FOR SELECTING THE SITE, WHICH WE KNOW IS GOING TO GET SIGNIFICANT PUSHBACK REGARDLESS OF WHERE IT ENDS UP GOING. AND SO, AND THAT IT WILL ENSURE THAT THE DECISIONS ALONG THE WAY REGARDING THE FUTURE OF THE LEASE, CEQA LITIGATION, WILL HAPPEN IN A WAY THAT HAS ALL THE APPROPRIATE STAKEHOLDERS INVOLVED IN THAT DECISION. DO YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION SUPERVISOR OR PLUMBER? SURE. YES. I WILL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE FORM AN AD HOC, UH, WITH THE SHERIFF, A, UH, A, A COMMITTEE. OKAY. SO AD HOC INVOLVES BOARD MEMBERS, WHICH, UH, WE'RE NOT GOING TO INCLUDE ANY BOARD MEMBERS.SO I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE'LL FORM A COMMITTEE THAT WILL INCLUDE THE SHERIFF, UH, REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE CAO'S OFFICE, A REPRESENTATIVE FROM PUBLIC PARK, PUBLIC WORKS, AND A REPRESENTATIVE FROM COUNTY COUNCIL TO IDENTIFY A, A, A, A NEW SITE FOR THIS CAMPUS AND TO HELP NAVIGATE THE, UH, PURCHASE OR, YOU KNOW, ACQUISITION AGREEMENT. ALL RIGHT. MOTION WAS MADE BY SUPERVISOR PLUMMER. QUESTION.
IS THAT, SHERIFF JOHNSON, IS THAT, IS THAT WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE? IS THAT THE... WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE GOT A MOTION ON THE TABLE. WE GOT A MOTION ON THE TABLE. WE CAN DISCUSS THAT AT A TIME. I WANT TO VOTE ON IT, AND I WANT TO, I'LL, I'LL SECOND FOR THE, FOR THE PURPOSE OF DISCUSSION. OKAY. SO WE'VE GOT A MOTION ON THE TABLE MADE BY SUPERVISOR PLUMMER, SECONDED BY SUPERVISOR LONG.
SUPERVISOR LONG, YOU'RE IN QUEUE. YES. THANK YOU. UH, SHERIFF JOHNSON. THIS IS WHY GOVERNMENT DOESN'T WORK BEFORE.
THAT'S... SIR. THANK YOU. UM, YOU AND I'VE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS, UM, TOPIC, AND YOU'RE NOT IN FAVOR OF AN AD HOC PER SE. WOULD YOU, WOULD YOU BE IN FAVOR OF WHAT SUPERVISOR PLUMMER, A COMMITTEE THAT'S NOT AN AD HOC, BUT A COMMITTEE THAT WOULD INVOLVE ALL THE KEY STAKEHOLDERS TO FURTHER THIS DISCUSSION SO THAT WE DON'T FALL FARTHER BEHIND BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE PUBLIC WORKS THERE FOR CONSTRUCTION QUESTIONS AND ALL THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. WHAT, WHAT, WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT? WE WERE ALREADY OPERATING LIKE THAT. I, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THE FORMAL PROCESS BRINGS THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE BEFORE THE, UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE SITE SELECTION BEFORE YOU ARE, YOU ALL WERE VERY WELL AWARE OF WHAT MY SLIGHT SELECTION, UH, CAME TO. I BROUGHT IT TO YOU. YOU GUYS APPROVED IT. I DIDN'T DO THAT ON MY OWN. UM, I, THE PROCESS CAN MOVE A LOT FASTER WITHOUT A COMMITTEE, BUT EVERYBODY INVOLVED, I DO NOT WANT TO EXCLUDE ANYBODY. THIS ISN'T MY SOLE DECISION TO MAKE. THIS IS A DECISION OF THE COMMUNITY, THE BOARD, EVERYBODY IN THE COUNTY AND ALL THE INVOLVED AGENCIES TO MAKE TOGETHER.
BUT A FORMAL COMMITTEE IN MY EYES SLOWS THINGS DOWN.
AND WE, AS IT WAS, I LEARNED IN THIS PROCESS THAT WE COULD HAVE BEEN SIX MONTHS FASTER THAN WE ALREADY WERE GETTING INTO THAT CEQA AND THAT PROCESS, JUST BECAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT I WAS DOING. AND I HAD ALL THOSE PEOPLE INVOLVED AND THAT DIDN'T SPEED ANYTHING UP AS FAR AS THAT GOES. SO I JUST DON'T SEE THE, WHAT THE FORMALITY OF FORMING THE COMMITTEE REALLY BRINGS TO THE TABLE. OKAY.
AND, UM, YOU AND I BRIEFLY DISCUSSED, UH, AND, AND SUPERVISOR PLUMMER'S MOTION WAS NOT TO INCLUDE BOARD MEMBERS.
AND, AND CAN YOU EXPLAIN YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT? BECAUSE I KNOW THAT SUPERVISOR PLUMMER AND I WERE ON THE AD HOC COMMITTEE TO DEVELOP A STRATEGIC PLAN THAT THEN GOT BROUGHT BACK TO THE BOARD. SO WE HAD KIND OF A DUAL ROLE IN THAT. WHY WOULD THAT NOT WORK IN THIS SITUATION? WELL, IF, IF YOU DO IT, AS I MENTIONED, UM, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU CAN NOT BE PART OF THE PROCESS, UH, THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
YOU, YOU HAVE TO, YOU WERE BEFORE. I MEAN, I HAD, UH, AS, AS I MENTIONED, I HAD KEVIN CRY ON THE ONSET OF IT AND MATT PLUMMER, UH, UH, ALSO FROM THE VERY EARLY ONSET AND WE MOVED THROUGH AND I DIDN'T WORK DIRECTLY WITH THE OTHER THREE OF YOU BECAUSE OF BROWN ACT VIOLATIONS AND SO FORTH.
BUT IT'S BECAUSE OF THE SUPERVISORS THAT IT HELPED MOVE FORWARD AND, AND GREW INTO THE PROJECT THAT IT WAS.
SO TO EXCLUDE YOU, I DON'T SEE WHERE THAT IS PROBABLY A WISE MOVE. AND I DON'T THINK YOU NEED TO BE INVOLVED RIGHT UP FRONT. I COULD BRING THOSE PROPERTIES TO YOU. WE CAN COLLECTIVELY LOOK OVER THOSE AND MAKE A SITE SELECTION AND START MOVING FORWARD. AND ONCE WE GET FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD AND THE DETAILS, I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD. MY RESERVATION WITH HAVING SUPERVISORS INVOLVED IN A FORMAL COMMITTEE AND ESPECIALLY SITE SELECTION
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RIGHT UP FRONT IS IF WE SELECT A SITE THAT HAPPENS TO BE IN YOUR DISTRICT, THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME BIAS GOING ON POTENTIALLY OF PRESSURES FROM THE COMMUNITY IN THAT DISTRICT ON THAT PARTICULAR SUPERVISOR NOW THROWING ON TOP OF IT IF THAT SUPERVISOR IS IN THE MIDDLE OF AN ELECTION OR EMBARKING ON AN ELECTION THEN THOSE PRESSURES BECOME MORE REAL AND THOSE DECISIONS MAY BE SKEWED NOT IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE COMMUNITY BUT IN THE POLITICAL INTEREST OF THAT PARTICULAR SUPERVISOR NOW I'M NOT SAYING THAT THAT HAPPENED BUT THAT'S A A REAL FACT THAT COULD HAPPEN AND THIS PROJECT'S ABOUT WHAT'S BEST FOR THE COMMUNITY AND LOOKING AT FUTURES VISIONARY FOR THE LONG TERM IT'S NOT ABOUT THE IMMEDIATE POLITICS UP FRONT AND THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN TRYING TO AVOID OKAY AND AND SO YOU YOU MENTIONED THAT AT SOME PART OF THE PROCESS YOU WOULD BRING IN OTHERS BUT THE INITIAL THING WHO WOULD YOU WHO WOULD YOU WORK WITH INITIALLY FOR SITE SELECTION UNTIL YOU BROUGHT THIS BACK FOR ALL THE LOGISTICAL INFORMATION FROM THE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS WELL I I THINK I DON'T THINK I THINK TWO OF YOU NEED TO BE INVOLVED JUST LIKE IT WAS BEFORE I DON'T I'M NOT I'M NOT CHANGING THE FACT THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS NEEDS TO HAVE INPUT AND NEEDS TO BE PART OF THAT WHICH TWO THAT THAT'S GOING TO BE THAT'S UP TO YOU GUYS WHICH WHICH TWO YOU GUYS SELECT TO BE A PART OF THAT BUT I JUST DON'T WANT A FORMAL AD HOC COMMITTEE OR COMMITTEE THAT HAS TO MEET AND HAS TO BE PART OF EVERY DECISION THAT HAS TO BE MADE BECAUSE I DON'T THINK IT'S NECESSARY THERE'S DECISIONS THAT I HOPE THAT YOU RELY ON JUST LIKE THE FINAL DECISION OF THIS BEING A FINANCIAL FINANCIALLY MOTIVATED I'M TRYING TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE COUNTY THAT'S WHAT YOU ELECT ME FOR AND I'D LIKE TO MOVE THIS PROJECT FORWARD AND NOT SLOW IT DOWN IT'S ALREADY BEEN DELAYED I'VE BEEN KIND OF SIDELINED WAITING FOR US TO GET TO THIS POINT SO WE CAN MOVE ON AND START WITH SITE SELECTION SO THAT'S MY OVERALL FEEL IF OF COURSE IF YOU GUYS DECIDE OTHERWISE AND YOU'RE GOING TO GO WITH THE COMMITTEE I'LL WORK WITH THE COMMITTEE I'LL DO WHATEVER IT TAKES I I JUST WANT THE PROJECT TO GET DONE FOR THE COMMUNITY'S SAKE AND I WANT IT TO BE EXPEDITIOUS WITHOUT A LOT OF UNNEEDED COUNTY AND GOVERNMENT RED TAPE THANK YOU SHERIFF AND I I DON'T SEE ANY POINT IN THIS BOARD TRYING TO MICROMANAGE YOU YOU DO A FANTASTIC JOB AND I APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH SO SUPERVISOR PLUMBER YEAH I THINK THE AND WITH ALL DUE RESPECT I THINK THE YOU KNOW WHERE WE'RE SAYING THAT WE'RE INVOLVING PEOPLE THE CHALLENGE AND AND THE REASON FOR THIS IS THAT WHEN ULTIMATELY THE DECISION WAS MADE THAT THOSE FOLKS WERE NOT INVOLVED AND AND THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING I THINK WOULD BE BETTER FOR THE COUNTY AND FOR UH THE PROCESS TO HAVE THOSE FOLKS INVOLVED TO BRING THOSE UH DIFFERING EXPERTISE AND SO WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THEY WEREN'T INVOLVED IT WAS WHO WAS NOT INVOLVED THE EAR AND CUE SUPERVISOR CRAIG WELL SUPERVISOR PLUMBER NO IT'S FINE I I MEAN YOU YOU AND I SAT IN THE ROOM WHERE WE FOUND OUT THAT YOU KNOW RIGHT BEFORE THE PUBLIC MEETING BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LIKE TROY BARTOLOME AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ALL THOSE PEOPLE ON THIS COMMITTEE LIKE ABOUT SITE SITE SELECTION LIKE THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT YOU WERE REFERRING TO IS THESE PEOPLE WEREN'T INVOLVED IN THE DECISION SITE SELECTION AND THROUGH THE PROCESS UH ALL THOSE PEOPLE ALL THOSE PEOPLE YOU MENTIONED WERE IN THE PROCESS THEY WEREN'T PART OF THE DECISION WHAT I'M SAYING IS WE HAVE A COMMITTEE THAT WE HAVE A COMMITTEE THAT WOULD MAKE THE DECISION TOGETHER TO BRING IT TO THE BOARD VERSUS HAVING THAT REST ON A SINGLE PERSON YOU GOOD SUPERVISOR PLUMBER YEAH SUPERVISOR NOW IT'S YOUR TURN YEAH YEAH I WAS TOTALLY UH VERY UPFRONT WITH SHERIFF I DIDN'T LIKE THE WAY I FOUND OUT AND YOU SAID HEY YOU KNOW YOU GO BACK MAYBE YOU PULL US IN AN HOUR A WEEK A DAY EARLY THAT'S FINE I CAN MOVE ON FROM THAT BUT IT DOESN'T CHANGE THE FACT THAT IN GOVERNMENT WE SPENT 45 FREAKING MINUTES TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING BELABORING SOMETHING THAT YOU SAID IN THE FIRST 10 SECONDS OF YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT YOU'RE NOT IN FOR IT PEOPLE GO HAM AND HAWING THEY WRING THEIR HANDS AND GET NOTHING DONE AND NOTHING EVER PROGRESSES AND GETS DONE SUPERVISOR KELSH AND I RAN AND TALKED ABOUT BUILDING A NEW JAIL GUESS WHAT WE GOT IN HERE AND REALIZED WE ARE FREAKING BROKE SO THERE WAS NO MONEY SO WHEN WE HAD A CHANCE TO GET SOME FREE PROPERTY WAS IT IN THE BEST LOCATION NO BUT THE END OF THE DAY PEOPLE HAVE CRIED OUT IN MULTIPLE FACETS THAT WE NEED UH YOU KNOW PEOPLE OFF OUR STREETS AND WE HAVE TO INCARCERATE PEOPLE THAT ARE DOING BAD THINGS SO WE KNOW WE NEED MORE JAIL SPACE SO GUESS WHAT THAT WAS OUR OPTION WE TOOK 18 MONTHS ON A STRATEGIC PLAN THAT CAME TO THE CONCLUSION AFTER ALL THAT FLIPPING TIME THAT I ALREADY SAID FOUR OF THEM TWO YEARS PRIOR AND GUESS WHAT WE SPENT ALL THAT TIME DOING NOTHING AND HERE WE HAVE THE FIVE AND HERE WE ARE BELABORING THIS POINT WE STILL HAVE THE FIRE ISSUE THAT'S COMING TO THE CLIFF BUT WE JUST WRING[02:05:01]
OUR HANDS MORE NO WAY SHOULD WE HAVE A COMMITTEE I THINK YOU DID THE BEST JOB YOU COULD ANYBODY THAT GOES INTO A SITUATION AND SAYS HEY I KNOW MORE ABOUT THIS PROCESS THAN I DID BEFORE WE DON'T NEED TO SLOW IT DOWN WITH MORE GOVERNMENT BUT QUITE HONESTLY WE'RE NOT GETTING ANY OF THIS STUFF THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT BECAUSE WE CAN'T AFFORD IT ALL RIGHT THANK YOU SUPERVISOR PRIOR LET'S TAKE A ROLL CALL VOTE STARTING WITH SUPERVISOR PLUMBER THE MOTION ON THE TABLE IS TO FORM A COMMITTEE AND UH TO ACCOMPANY THE SHERIFF OR TO SUPERVISOR PLUMBER YES SUPERVISOR CRY NO SUPERVISOR KELSTROM NO SUPERVISOR HARMAN NO AND SUPERVISOR LONG NO ALL RIGHT FAILS UH ONE TO FOUR ALL RIGHT AND THEN THE THIRD PART OF THIS IS UM WE'VE GOT TO CONSIDER PROVIDING ADDITIONAL DIRECTION TO STAFF SPONSORED BY SUPERVISOR PLUMBER AGAIN UM I THINK WE JUST KIND OF WENT[R8 In accordance with Shasta County Code Section 2.48.040, take the following actions regarding the Planning Commission: (1) Remove Steve Kerns as the District 3 representative; (2) declare the seat vacant; (3) receive Supervisor Harmon's nomination of Kevin Butler to serve as the District 3 representative; and (4) direct staff to return to the Board with an item to appoint the nominee to serve the remainder of a four-year term to January 15, 2029.]
THROUGH THAT IS THERE ANY OTHER DIRECTION THAT YOU'RE GOING TO WANT TO TRY TO DO OR IS THAT WAS THAT WRAPPED UP IN PART TWO NO FURTHER DIRECTION OKAY ALL RIGHT SO WITH THAT UH WE'LL MOVE ON UH WE GOT R8 IN ACCORDANCE THE SHASTA COUNTY CODE SECTION 2 .48 .040 TAKE THE FOLLOWING ACTIONS REGARDING THE PLANNING COMMISSION REMOVE STEVE KERNS AS A DISTRICT THREE REPRESENTATIVE DECLARE THE SEAT VACANT RECEIVE SUPERVISOR HARMAN'S NOMINATION OF KEVIN BUTLER TO SERVE AS A DISTRICT THREE REPRESENTATIVE AND DIRECT STAFF TO RETURN TO THE BOARD WITH AN ITEM TO APPOINT THE NOMINEE TO SERVE THE REMAINDER OF THE FOUR -YEAR TERM TO JANUARY 15TH 2029 SO AGAIN I WOULD LIKE TO GO ON RECORD SAYING THIS ABSOLUTELY HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE GUN RANGE NOTHING WHATSOEVER UM IN FACT STEVE KERNS HAD TO RECUSE HIMSELF OFF OF THE VOTE BECAUSE HE HAD DONE THE BIOLOGICAL SURVEY ON THE ON THE UH GUN RANGE AND KEVIN BUTLER WAS THE ENGINEER ON THE GUN RANGE THE GUN RANGE HAS TO GO THROUGH SECRET THIS HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS THIS HAS TO DO WITH WHEN SUPERVISOR HARMAN WAS WON HIS ELECTION UM I TALKED TO HIM ABOUT YOU GET THE RIGHT TO JUST PUT HIM ON A PLANNING COMMISSIONER AT THE TIME UH PLANNING COMMISSIONER KERNS WAS HELPING US WITH THE THE HATCHET RIDGE WINDMILL PROJECT UM HE WAS A VERY BIG HELP THERE UH HE CAME DOWN TO SACRAMENTO WITH CEO RICKERT AND MYSELF AND SPOKE AND HE WAS ACTUALLY VERY ELOQUENT AND HE MADE SOME REALLY GREAT POINTS THERE UM ONCE THAT PROJECT WAS DEAD AND GONE UM WE DIDN'T YOU KNOW THAT THEN SUPERVISOR HARMAN DECIDED TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE HIS PICK SO THAT'S WHAT THIS IS UM SO UH DO WE HAVE A PRESENTATION ON THIS OR ANYTHING UH WE DON'T THIS IS JUST A CONTINUATION FROM THE LAST MEETING ON AUGUST 25TH WE THERE WAS A MOTION MADE UM TO CONTINUE IT YES PUBLIC COMMENT WE HAVE THREE SPEAKERS FIRST UP KIM MOORE UM FOLLOWED BY SHASTA COUNTY WATCHDOG THEN LESLIE SAWYER IF I CALLED YOUR NAME PLEASE GET IN QUEUE OKAY SO KIM MOORE PASSES SHASTA COUNTY WATCHDOG UP NEXT FOLLOWED BY LESLIE SAWYER CHRIS I KNOW YOU YOU EXPLAIN YOURSELF REGARDING THIS ITEM THAT IT IS NOT A POSSIBILITY THAT IT'S REGARDING PATRICK JONES THE SHOOTING RANGE I UNDERSTAND THAT WHAT YOUR YOUR OPINION WHAT YOU THINK BUT I ACTUALLY DID REACH OUT TO THE ATTORNEYS THAT ACTUALLY WORK ON THE THE MAILVILLE PLAINS SO I I ACTUALLY DO BELIEVE THIS IS PART OF THE CORKEY'S THING AND PATRICK JONES SO IT BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW WE KNOW AND LIKE I SAID BEFORE THERE'S THINGS WE KNOW BEFORE YOU KNOW SO I'M JUST LETTING YOU KNOW THIS IS NOT BECAUSE HE JUST BROUGHT THIS ON HIS OWN HE HAS TALKED WITH PATRICK JONES AND THERE'S ALL THE THINGS I WON'T GO INTO IT YET BUT I WILL JUST UH DISCLOSE A COUPLE THINGS REGARDING THAT SO AND FOR CORKEY TO TRY TO REMOVE THIS PERSON WITHOUT THAT PERSON BEING HERE OR EVEN TO QUESTION HIM OR ASK HIM WHAT YOU KNOW FOR HIM TO STAY ON THAT'S ACTUALLY NOW YOU'RE BEING PICKY ABOUT A PERSON WITHOUT THEM KNOWING AND IT'S A POSSIBILITY YOU MIGHT BE DISCRIMINATING HIM BECAUSE HE ACTUALLY WANTS TO STAY ON AND YOU DIDN'T SPEAK TO HIM SO YOU'RE ACTUALLY KIND OF GOING INTO LIKE VIOLATING HIS RIGHTS TO BE ON THE COMMITTEE AND YOU HAVE NO PROBABLE CAUSE TO FOR HIM TO BE REMOVED SO AND I KNOW LIKE I SAID I REACHED OUT TO THE ATTORNEYS WHICH I WILL STOP BY THEIR OFFICE TODAY REGARDING PATRICK JONES AND IT'S I KNOW HIS UH HIS PROJECT HE'S SO DESPERATE I'M TELLING YOU HE'S SO DESPERATE CHRIS THAT THAT UH RICHARD IS REACHING OUT TO ME REGARDING YOU THAT'S HOW DESPERATE THEN I HAVE IT IN THE EMAIL THEY'RE ASKING ME QUESTIONS BECAUSE THEY WANT TO COME AFTER YOU EXCEPT LESLIE SAWYER IT'S ALWAYS ENTERTAINING UM SO FIRST OFF LET'S FOCUS ON FACTUAL EVIDENCE OKAY UM WHEN ALAN LONG SAID THAT THIS WAS BECAUSE OR HIS CONCERN[02:10:02]
ON THIS WAS BECAUSE OF THE MANY EMAILS HE RECEIVED I DID A PRA REQUEST GUESS WHAT THAT SAW OR THAT GUESS WHAT THAT SHOWED IT SHOWED THAT MARY RICKERT IS BEHIND THIS ENTIRE THING ALL OF THOSE EMAILS WERE EITHER FROM HER OR FROM PEOPLE WHO ARE A FRIEND OF MARY RICKERT WHO IS CONCERNED HER APPOINTED PERSON IS NO LONGER GOING TO BE IN A POSITION OF POWER SHE HAS A PROBLEM WITH THAT SHE NO LONGER IS UP HERE CAUSING THE DIVISION AND THE CHAOS SO SHE'S FINDING A WAY TO DO IT AND I HAVE THE PRA'S TO TO PROVE IT THE EMAILS ARE ON THERE I LOVE THAT OUR NEW PRA SYSTEM MAKES IT TO WHERE WHEN I SUBMIT A REQUEST EVERYBODY HAS ACCESS TO IT SO GO LOOK AT IT IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE ME ALL OF THE EMAILS TO MR LONG ABOUT THIS ITEM WERE BECAUSE A FRIEND OF MARY OR MARY HAD REACHED OUT OKAY SO LET'S BE VERY TRANSPARENT ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON SHE WAS VOTED OUT BECAUSE SHE CAUSED DIVISION AND CHAOS QUIRKY HAS ALWAYS HAD A REPUTATION OF BEING A GREAT BUSINESS OWNER WITH A GREAT INTEGRITY AND THAT HAS NEVER BEEN IN QUESTION UNTIL SOMEBODY WHO DIDN'T GET HER WAY STARTS MAKING WAVES LET HISTORY SPEAK FOR ITSELF LET PEOPLE WHEN THEY SHOW YOU WHO THEY ARE THE FIRST TIME BELIEVE THEM AND THAT'S WHAT MARY HAS DONE THIS IS HIS APPOINTMENT THIS IS HIS CHOICE AND THIS IS MARY PLAYING POLITICS THANK YOU CAN YOU THAT WAS OUR LAST SPEAKER CHAIR THANK YOU YES YES UH SO WITH THAT I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION THE SUPERVISOR CARMEN DID YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION ON R8 THANK YOU UM PART OF WHAT I UH RESEARCHED AND THE EMAILS THAT I HAD RECEIVED THAT A PRA REQUEST DID GO OUT WERE FROM MORE THAN MARY JUST I'M JUST GOING TO SAY THAT AND YOU YOU'LL SEE THAT EVIDENCE UM SO THE THE QUESTION IS UM WHAT IS GOING ON HERE AND HOW DO WE GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THESE ISSUES IS MR KEARNS HERE YES OH CAN I HAVE YOU COME FORWARD GOOD MORNING THANK YOU THANK YOU AND I KNOW THIS IS PROBABLY A DIFFICULT AWKWARD MOMENT FOR YOU BUT I APPRECIATE UH YOUR YOU'RE WILLING TO ANSWER QUESTIONS SO UM CAN YOU TELL ME A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE CONVERSATION THAT OCCURRED BETWEEN YOU AND CORKEY UM ABOUT YOU WANTING TO STEP DOWN FROM HIS PERSPECTIVE YOUR PERSPECTIVE NOT WANTING TO STEP DOWN YEAH I APPRECIATE THAT QUESTION MAYBE TO BRING SOME CLARITY TO IT UM IT'S SORT OF A MULTI -FACETED CONVERSATIONS OKAY UM ABOUT A YEAR PLUS AGO UH CORKEY AND I WAS SITTING RIGHT OUT HERE AND WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT LIFE AND UH HE ASKED ME HOW THINGS WERE GOING I SHARED IT HAD BEEN A REALLY TOUGH YEAR WE'D LOST SOME FAMILY MEMBERS AND THEN SOME OTHER HARDSHIPS LIKE THAT AND THEN UM ABOUT NINE WEEKS AGO NOW I RECEIVED A PHONE CALL FROM HIM AND HE IF I CAN HE BASICALLY SAID I UNDERSTAND YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT STEPPING DOWN FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND I SAID WHERE DID YOU GET THAT IDEA BECAUSE I'VE NEVER MENTIONED ANYBODY MY INTEREST BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE AN INTEREST IN STEPPING DOWN HE REFERRED BACK TO THAT CONVERSATION WE'D HAD OUT HERE THAT HAD BEEN A TOUGH YEAR AND YOU KNOW THOUGHT YOU WERE THINKING ABOUT STEPPING DOWN AND HE SAID NO I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION THAT WE HAVE A DIVERSIONS OF BACKGROUNDS YOU KNOW JIM CHAPIN AND I COME A RESOURCE MANAGEMENT BACKGROUND OR OTHER COMMISSIONERS COME FROM A DEVELOPMENT AND CONSTRUCTION BACKGROUND AND I THINK THAT'S REALLY REALLY HEALTHY AND WE NEED TO CONTINUE THAT TO GIVE A REAL BALANCED APPROACH TO THE QUESTIONS THAT BECOME BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND WE TALKED ABOUT OH HE ASKED ME IF I KNEW UH KEVIN BUTLER AND I SAID YES I DO I'VE DONE SOME WORK WITH KEVIN ON TWO OR THREE PROJECTS AND UM I REITERATED THAT I DON'T HAVE AN INTEREST IN STEPPING DOWN AND HE SAID OKAY WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT AT ANOTHER TIME AND THAT WAS THE END OF THAT CONVERSATION AND THEN THE NEXT THING I KNOW IS A COMMUNITY MEMBER SENT ME YOUR AGENDA THAT I IT WAS COMING BEFORE THIS BOARD TO UM HAVE ME STEP DOWN AND THAT TOOK ME BY SURPRISE BECAUSE WE HAD NOT HAD ANOTHER CONVERSATION AND THEN I BELIEVE IT WAS FRIDAY UM CORKEY CALLED ME AGAIN AND WE SORT OF HAD THAT SAME CONVERSATION AND[02:15:02]
I REITERATED TO HIM THOSE THAT POSITION THAT I HAVE AND THE REASONS I HAVE IT AND WHY I WOULD LIKE TO STAY ON THE BOARD FINISH OUT MY TERM AND BRING THE PERSPECTIVE OF A RESOURCE BIOLOGIST TO THE QUESTIONS THAT COME BEFORE THE COMMISSION OKAY AND YOU JUST SAID IT BUT I'M GOING TO ASK YOU THE FORMAL QUESTION ARE YOU WOULD YOU LIKE TO STAY FOR THE REMAINDER OF YOUR TERM ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION YES OKAY AND THE NEXT THING WOULD BE THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM THERE WAS A VOTE THAT WAS A DIVIDED VOTE FOR THE MANTON SOLAR PROJECT AND UM YOU WERE ONE OF THE TWO DISSENTING AND THEN THE OTHER THREE UH VOTED TO APPROVE THAT CAME BEFORE OUR BOARD WE UPHELD THE DECISION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION THE MAJORITY AND SO CAN YOU TELL ME A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHY YOU MR CHAIRMAN UH I I DO HAVE TO CLARIFY WHAT THIS ITEM IS SO THIS IS UH THIS IS A POLITICAL APPOINTMENT NOT A REMOVAL FOR CAUSE AND WHAT'S AGENDIZED WE'RE WE'RE EXCEEDING THAT SO ESSENTIALLY WHAT YOU'RE AT THIS POINT WE'RE CROSSING OVER INTO UH ESSENTIALLY A A REMOVAL FOR CAUSE TYPE OF AN ARGUMENT OKAY OKAY UM THANK THANK YOU COUNCIL UM SO UH THANK YOU MR KEARNS FOR FOR SHOWING UP I'M NOT GOING TO ASK ANY MORE QUESTIONS ALONG THOSE LINES OKAY BECAUSE I COUNCIL ADVISED NOT TO SO UM I WILL GO ON I WILL CONTINUE ON MY MY BOARD DISCUSSION SO TRYING TO FIGURE THIS OUT UM FOR MYSELF TO MY SATISFACTION I CONTACTED AND I WAS FREE TO DO THIS BECAUSE UM THE LAWSUIT AGAINST THE COUNTY FROM THE BATTLE CREEK ALLIANCE HAS BEEN DROPPED AND THAT THAT UH IS NO LONGER AN ISSUE AND THE AND IN FACT THE SOLAR COMPANY ITSELF HAS WITHDRAWN THEIR APPLICATION SO THE MANTAN SOLAR PROJECT IS NOT GOING FORWARD REALLY NOT PART OF R8 SUPERVISOR ONE YEAH YEAH I'M I'M JUST GOING TO SAY FOR BOARD DISCUSSION HERE SO WHAT I DID WAS I CONTACTED UH THE THE SOLE LITIGANT THAT FILED ON BEHALF OF THE BATTLE CREEK ALLIANCE UH MARYLAND MERRILY WOULD YOU HAVE COUNCIL CAN I CAN I CONTINUE WITH THIS THOUGHT I MEAN IT SEEMS LIKE IT DOES IN THE SENSE THAT PUBLIC COMMENTS WERE MADE JUSTIFYING THE WRITTEN THE DECISION ON THE BASIS OF UH STEVE KERN'S INVOLVEMENT IN THE PROJECT WELL IT WAS THAT WAS HERE HERE'S THE HERE'S THE ISSUE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A POLITICAL APPOINTMENT RIGHT AND IT'S NOT AND A REMOVAL FROM A POLITICAL APPOINTMENT THAT IS NOT FOR CAUSE THE DISCUSSION COMES DOWN TO DO YOU THINK A SUPERVISOR SHOULD PICK THEIR PERSON OR NOT THAT'S IT OKAY AND I KNOW NO I THINK IT'S IT'S MORE COMPLICATED YOU MAKE IT MORE COMPLICATED COUNCIL WELL ACTUALLY THE RULES ABOUT HOW THIS WORKS MAKE IT MORE COMPLICATED IN THAT WE GET TO VOTE ON EACH OTHER SUPERVISOR'S APPOINTEE WE DON'T BLANKET APPROVE IT IF WE DID THEN THEY WOULD JUST ALLOW THE SUPERVISOR TO APPOINT WITHOUT GIVING THE REST OF THE BOARD WE VOTED ON YOURS I THINK THE ISSUE IS THE ISSUE IS THIS UM THE THE BOARD HAS THE OPTION TO UH VOTE TO EITHER APPROVE THIS OR NOT APPROVE IT UM WHAT WHAT IT'S NOT COMING DOWN TO IS CAUSE SO ESSENTIALLY WE'RE WE'RE BUT BUT I WOULD ARGUE THAT PART OF MY THOUGHT PROCESS COMING TO MY DECISION WAS PART OF WHAT I'M I'M TRYING TO SHARE ABOUT ACCUSATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE AGAINST MR KEARNS IN A PUBLIC SETTING IN A PUBLIC FORUM AND THAT THAT IS PART OF MY DISCUSSION SO I I GET THAT BUT IT WASN'T AGENDIZED THAT WAY THE COMMENTERS THAT WERE HERE WEREN'T PREPARED FOR IT TO GO THAT WAY UM AND SO IT CREATES A LITTLE BIT OF AN ISSUE SO WHAT I'LL SAY IS UM I I'VE SAID MY PART AND AND HOW THE LEGAL ISSUES ARE LAID OUT SO FROM THAT POINT ON I'LL LET YOU GUYS GO CAN SUPERVISOR HARMAN SUPERVISOR HARMAN MAKE A MOTION WELL I DON'T WANT TO MAKE A MOTION JUST YET BECAUSE I WANT TO I WANT TO CLARIFY SOMETHING TO MR KEARNS HE DESERVES THIS AND I AND I WANT TO SAY IT PUBLICLY TO YOU I APOLOGIZE FOR ANY MISCOMMUNICATIONS HE'S DONE US A GREAT JOB IT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH EVERYBODY MAKING IT SOUND LIKE I WAS FIRING HIM BECAUSE THAT WAS NOT WHAT HAPPENED WE'VE WE'VE HAD UH WE'VE NEVER HAD A PROBLEM I TOTALLY RESPECT MR KEARNS AND WHEN WE HAD THAT LAST JUST FOR CLARIFICATION I I SAID I ALREADY HAD THE UH[02:20:01]
WHEELS IN MOTION WITH UH KEVIN BUTLER AND I'VE AND I WAS UH AND YES YOU DID SAY THAT YOU WANTED TO STAY ON BUT I'D ALREADY HAD THE WHEELS IN MOTION AND IT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH BEING UH DISSATISFIED OR OR BEING DISRESPECTFUL TO YOU AND I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT I I TOTALLY RESPECT YOU AND I THANK YOU FOR THE WORK YOU'VE DONE AND UH NOW I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THE QUESTION OKAY I'M NOT QUITE FINISHED WITH MINE I HAVE A QUESTION FOR COUNCIL COUNCIL AM I CROSSING AN ETHICAL BOUNDARY HERE BY CONTINUING MY LINE OF THOUGHT WHERE I CAME TO MY DECISION OR IT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA YEAH JUST JUST SECOND SO IS THAT SOMETHING WHERE UH YOU BASICALLY ARE ADVISING NOT TO CONTINUE WITH MY LINE OF THOUGHT BECAUSE IT WASN'T AGENDIZED PROPERLY SO I I DON'T KNOW THAT IT WASN'T AGENDIZED PROPERLY SO THAT THAT WOULDN'T BE A CORRECT STATEMENT TYPICALLY A POLITICAL APPOINTMENT YOU CAN HAVE A SO WHEN THE APPOINTEE COMES IN YOU CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION OF WHETHER THAT PERSON IS APPROPRIATE ESSENTIALLY UM FOR FOR THE APPOINTMENT HERE THERE'S A REMOVAL BUT THE REMOVAL IS NOT FOR CAUSE RIGHT SO THERE'S NO CAUSE ALLEGED AND ESSENTIALLY WHAT OUR DISCUSSION IS MOVING INTO IS IS PLACING CAUSE UM SO IT WE'RE IN A GRAY AREA AND THAT'S AS FAR AS I'LL GO WHEN WE BRING BACK THE CANDIDATE TO FILL THE VACANT POSITION THEN WE CAN ASK HIM ALL THE QUESTIONS YOU WANT GOT IT I I I I WILL UH STOP MY LINE OF QUESTIONING SUPERVISOR HARM WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION R8 AS WRITTEN YES TO NOT DISRESPECTFULLY IT'S I HATE THE WAY THIS IS WORDED BUT TO REMOVE STEVE KARNS AND THEN APPOINT KEVIN BUTLER WELL WE'RE GOING TO VACATE THE POSITION FIRST GOING TO VACATE THEM YOU'LL NOMINATE TO UH KEVIN BUTLER CORRECT THE APPOINTMENT WOULD COME AT THE FOLLOWING MEETING CORRECT OKAY MOTION IS MADE BY SUPERVISOR HARMAN I WILL SECOND IT SECOND IT BY MYSELF UH WE'LL TAKE A ROLL CALL VOTE STARTING WITH SUPERVISOR PLUMBER SUPERVISOR PLUMBER NO SUPERVISOR CRY YES SUPERVISOR KELSTROM YES SUPERVISOR HARMAN YES AND SUPERVISOR LONG NO MR KEARNS I JUST WANT TO SAY REALLY QUICK LIKE I DON'T EVEN KNOW YOU LIKE I I'VE HAD A THE SAME RECORD THE ENTIRE TIME BUT ONE APPOINTMENT ABOUT SUPERVISORS GET TO PICK[R9 Take the following actions: (1) Receive a presentation from the County Administrative Office and County Counsel regarding recent public record act requests for video footage; (2) consider providing direction to staff to draft and issue a competitive procurement for professional video review and editing services; (3) delegate authority to the County Executive Officer to appoint representatives from the County Administrative Office and Information Technology to sit on the competitive procurement review and selection panel. ]
THEIR PERSON I'VE SUPPORTED EVERYBODY'S APPOINTMENTS ON THIS BOARD SO JUST I WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU KNOW THAT THANK YOU VERY MUCH MOVING ON TO R9 TAKE THE FOLLOWING ACTIONS RECEIVING PRESENTATION FROM THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICE AND COUNTY COUNCIL REGARDING RECENT PUBLIC RECORD AND REQUESTS FOR VIDEO FOOTAGE CONSIDER PROVIDING DIRECTION TO STAFF TO DRAFT AND ISSUE A COMPETITIVE PROCUREMENT FOR PROFESSIONAL VIDEO REVIEW AND EDITING SERVICES DELEGATE AUTHORITY TO THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE OFFICER WE NEED WE NEED TO STOP FOR A SECOND BECAUSE I I THINK WE MISSED THE WE MISSED UH THE FACT THAT WE WERE SUPPOSED TO DO THE NOMINATION OR IS THAT DID THAT JUST NOW GET INCLUDED AS DRAFTED OKAY I WANTED IT TODAY SO THE APPOINTMENT WILL HAVE TO COME BACK AT A SUBSEQUENT MEETING IT CAN'T BE TODAY SO YOU'VE NOMINATED HIM THROUGH YOUR MOTION ALREADY RIGHT BUT THE BUT THE LAST BOARD MEETING WE ALL RIGHT DELEGATE AUTHORITY TO THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE OFFICER TO APPOINT REPRESENT REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE COUNTY MINISTRY OF OFFICE AND INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY UH TO SIT ON THE COMPETITIVE PROCUREMENT REVIEW AND SELECTION PANEL UH DO WE HAVE A PRESENTATION ON THIS OR IS THIS COUNTY COUNCIL ARMOR NO PRESENTATION NO SO THIS ITEM IS A IS A UNORTHODOX ASK UM AND AN UNORTHODOX ISSUE UM THE BOARD IS PROBABLY AWARE UM THAT WE PROVIDE UH VIDEO FOOTAGE FROM INSIDE OF UM INSIDE OF OUR UM BUILDINGS WHERE THERE'S NO NO EXPECTATION OF PRIVACY UM THROUGH PUBLIC RECORDS ACT REQUEST UM WHAT HAS HAPPENED HERE AND I THINK YOU GUYS ARE ALL AWARE OF IT IS UM THROUGH THE NORMAL PROCESSES IF A DEPARTMENT HEAD WANTS TO LOOK AT THEIR VIDEOS WE ALLOW THAT UM IN SOMEWHAT OF A UM AN UNEXPECTED USE OF THOSE VIDEOS IS THAT THEY'RE PUT ON THE PRESS UH THAT EMPLOYEES ARE IDENTIFIED IN THOSE VIDEOS UH WITHOUT INVESTIGATION AND CRIMINAL ALLEGATIONS ARE MADE AGAINST THEM UM IN AN ATTEMPT TO PROTECT THE EMPLOYEES WE ARE AUTHORIZING THE UH VIEWING OF THE VIDEOS UM AND REQUEST OF THE VIDEOS BY THE PUBLIC UM BUT WE'RE SEEKING TO UH PROVIDE THOSE IN A DE -IDENTIFIED FASHION UM SO IT'S[02:25:01]
NOT THAT YOU CAN'T SHOW THE ACTIONS OF THE EMPLOYEES OR PUBLIC WHO ARE DEPICTED IN THOSE VIDEOS UM BUT THAT WE'RE NOT IDENTIFYING AND MAKING UH BASELESS ACCUSATIONS UM AGAINST EMPLOYEES WHO HAVE THE RIGHT TO PROTECTIONS TO HAVE INVESTIGATIONS AND TO HAVE FINDINGS OF THOSE INVESTIGATIONS IF THERE ARE ACCUSATIONS OF CRIMES THOSE SHOULD BE UH SUBMITTED TO THE PROPER LAW ENFORCEMENT CHANNELS AND THOSE INVESTIGATIONS WOULD HANDLE THROUGH THERE THANK YOU COUNCIL LARMER UH DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM UH WE DO CHAIR WE HAVE SEVEN SPEAKERS ALL IN PERSON FIRST UP KIM MOORE FOLLOWED BY SHASTA COUNTY WATCHDOG BEV THEN LAURA HOBBS IF I CALLED YOUR NAME PLEASE GET IN QUEUE THANK YOU AGAIN FOR HAVING ME UM MY BIG PROBLEM WITH THIS EVEN BEING ON THE AGENDA IS THAT WE WERE PROMISED THAT WE WOULD GET OUR PROJECTOR FIXED YOU GUYS GOT YOUR NEW BOARD ROOM YOU GOT YOUR FANCY MONITOR THESE MEETINGS ARE OURS REGARDLESS OF WHAT YOU THINK YOU'RE DOING UP THERE THIS PART OF THE PROCESS IS OURS AND WE'VE BEEN KNEECAPPED BECAUSE WE CAN'T COME UP HERE LIKE WE USED TO BE ABLE TO AND PUT OUR EVIDENCE IN THE PROJECTOR AND SHARE IT BUT NOW YOU'RE GOING TO GO SPEND SOME MORE MONEY AND I DON'T TRUST A DAMN THING YOU DO MR LAMOR HOWEVER YOU PRONOUNCE YOUR NAME I'M NOT TRYING TO HACK IT ON PURPOSE I DON'T TRUST YOU YOU'VE VOTED AGAINST SECURING OUR ELECTIONS YOU SIT UP HERE AND GIVE PLUMBER ADVICE AND TELL THEM HOW TO SAY THINGS THIS IS HOLY I DON'T CARE WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY THIS IS WHOLLY INAPPROPRIATE I DON'T TRUST WHAT YOU'RE DOING AND UNTIL WE GET OUR PROJECTOR I'M ADAMANTLY OPPOSED TO THIS AND YOU NEED TO THINK ABOUT MR CHAIRMAN THIS IS OFF TOPIC YOU GOT IT NEXT UP SHASTA COUNTY WATCHDOG FOLLOWED BY BEV LAURA HOBBS THEN MARGARET HANSEN IF I CALLED YOUR NAME PLEASE GET IN QUEUE SHASTA COUNTY WATCHDOG COME ON UP WONDERFUL VIDEOS TO BE RELEASED OKAY REGARDING THE PUBLIC RECORDS SO HOW MANY TIMES HAVE WE SEEN OR HEARD THAT PEOPLE GO INTO THE ELECTION OFFICE AND THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE IN THERE THIS SATURDAY MR TIM I DON'T KNOW HOW TO SAY HIS LAST NAME SLANDER HE WAS THERE SATURDAY SO IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THESE VIDEOS TO BE RELEASED CRIMINAL ACTIVITY HOW DO EVEN THOUGH THERE'S CRIMINAL ACTIVITY I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU CAN'T RELEASE THEM BECAUSE OF LITIGATION BECAUSE THOSE EVIDENCE NEED TO BE PRESERVED SO WHEN THEY'RE ACTUALLY ARE NEEDED FOR LITIGATION SO I I THINK THAT YOU GUYS ARE GETTING A LITTLE BIT TOO FAR ON RESTRICTING THE PUBLIC'S ACCESS TO ACCESS TO THINGS HERE YOU'RE VIOLATING OUR CONSTITUTION RIGHTS OVER AND OVER AND I I YOU KNOW CHRIS I DON'T KNOW IF YOU IF YOU GET ELECTED I DON'T KNOW IF YOU YOU'RE UNDERSTAND THAT THE PEOPLE HAVE A RIGHT IF YOU GET ELECTED YOU NEED TO PUT THE THREE MINUTES BACK AND VIDEOS ANYTHING EVERYTHING THAT THE PEOPLE WANT BECAUSE WE PAY YOUR DAMN SALARY OH THAT'S RIGHT YOU MADE UP YOUR OWN SALARY YOU APPROVE YOUR OWN SALARY YOU OVERWRITE THE CITIZENS R9 YEAH SO R9 SO THE VIDEOS BELONG TO THE PEOPLE WHY ARE YOU TAKING OUR RIGHTS FROM ALSO ACCESS TO VIDEOS BECAUSE OUR EMPLOYEES HAVE RIGHTS ALSO OKAY I UNDERSTAND THAT PART BUT I'M TALKING ABOUT OURS OKAY THE EMPLOYEES DO HAVE A RIGHT I GET THAT OKAY NEXT UP BEV FOLLOWED BY LAURA HOBBS MARGARET HANSON THEN ANTONIA IF I CALLED YOUR NAME PLEASE GET IN QUEUE OKAY I'VE REQUESTED A COPY OF A VIDEO I GAVE DETAILED DATES TIMES AND WHICH CAMERAS LOCATIONS IT WAS SUBMITTED AUGUST 29TH SEPTEMBER 9TH I GOT A STANDARD RESPONSE AFTER 10 DAYS SAYING I SHOULD HAVE THE FILE WITHIN 30 DAYS IT'S MY BELIEF THAT THEY HAVE A TOTAL OF 24 DAYS TO GET THE INFORMATION TO ME I WANT TO KNOW WHY IS IT THAT PEOPLE ON THE LEFT APPEAR TO BE NOTIFIED WHEN THEY SHOULD REQUEST RECORDS AND GET IT IMMEDIATELY A PREVIOUS VIDEO WAS RELEASED OF MR CURTIS ON A SATURDAY IN THE OFFICE HOW DID THE PERSON EVEN KNOW EXACTLY WHAT TO REQUEST AND WHY DOES DID MR CURTIS NOT HAVE RIGHTS ANOTHER TIME THE ROV WAS SERVED ON JUNE 22ND AFTER 4 P[02:30:01]
.M NEXT MORNING AT A BOS MEETING A PERSON TOTALLY AGAINST FAIR ELECTIONS WAS SPEAKER SPEAKING ABOUT SO THAT DOCUMENT. MY QUESTION IS, HOW DID SHE KNOW TO REQUEST IT, AND HOW THE HECK DID SHE GET IT SO QUICKLY? IT TAKES ME SIX WEEKS TO GET MY REQUEST. IS SHE BEING NOTIFIED BY STAFF WHEN THERE IS SOMETHING THEY WANT RELEASED TO THE PUBLIC? I THINK THIS IS ALL DONE TO SET MR. CURTIS UP.AREN'T WE ENTITLED TO EQUAL TREATMENT? WHY IS IT OKAY FOR SOME LAWS, LIKE HAVING AN ALPHA DRAW FOR COUNTY ELECTIONS, ALONG WITH MANY OTHERS OF THE LAWS THAT ARE BEING BROKEN, APPEAR TO BENEFIT ONLY ONE GROUP OF PEOPLE AND NOT THE OTHERS? I EXPECT TO GET THE ORIGINAL COPY OF THE FULL VIDEO WITHOUT BEING EDITED, AND I EXPECT TO HAVE IT WITHIN THE 24 DAYS OF THE ORIGINAL. WE WANT TRANSPARENCY, NOT COVER -UP.
THANK YOU. NEXT UP, LAURA HOBBS, FOLLOWED BY MARGARET HANSON, ANTONIA, THEN LESLIE SAWYER. IF I CALLED YOUR NAME, PLEASE GET IN QUEUE. ALL RIGHT.
WE DO NOT WANT A CENSORSHIP PANEL. THIS IS COMMUNISM.
THAT'S NOT WHAT YOU DO IN A FREE COUNTRY. THERE'S NO EXPECTATION OF PRIVACY. MR. LARMORE SAID IT HIMSELF. WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS NOT TO PROTECT EMPLOYEES. IF YOU REALLY CARED ABOUT EMPLOYEES, YOU WOULD TAKE EVERY WHISTLEBLOWER ALLEGATION SERIOUSLY. THAT'S NOT WHAT'S HAPPENING. I HAVE MADE MULTIPLE WHISTLEBLOWER ATTEMPTS, AND NONE OF IT HAS BEEN INVESTIGATED.
YOU DON'T CARE TO HEAR THE TRUTH. YOU DON'T CARE TO HEAR FROM THE NEW PEOPLE. ALL YOU CARE TO HEAR ABOUT IS FROM THE OLD GUARD, THE OLD BUREAUCRATIC SYSTEM THAT IS MAKING FALSE ALLEGATIONS. THEY CANNOT BE TRUSTED. THESE PEOPLE ARE DOING THINGS ON CAMERA, AND THE PUBLIC DESERVES TO KNOW. THIS IS OUR FOOTAGE.
THIS IS OUR ELECTIONS BUILDING.
THE TAXPAYER PAYS FOR IT. WE DESERVE TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON THERE. WE PAY FOR EVERYTHING. WE PAY FOR THE RENT THERE. WE PAY FOR THE EMPLOYEE SALARY. WE PAY FOR THOSE CAMERAS, AND WE DO NOT WANT A CENSORSHIP PANEL TO SAY WHO AND WHO CANNOT GET WHAT FOOTAGE AND WHAT'S GOING TO BE BLURRED OUT. THAT'S NOT AMERICA. THAT'S NOT FREEDOM.
THAT'S NOT HOW WE DO THINGS IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. THAT'S CENSORSHIP.
THAT'S CHINA. THAT'S COMMUNISM.
SO PLEASE DON'T MAKE THE WRONG MOVE HERE. YOU WILL REGRET IT IF YOU DO. THERE WILL UNDOUBTEDLY BE LAWSUITS, AND I JUST WANT TO SAY FOR THE RECORD, THE REASON WHY THIS IS COMING FORTH IS BECAUSE CLINT CURTIS, THE DEPARTMENT HEAD, DESERVES THOSE VIDEOS, AND HE HAS BEEN DENIED THEM BECAUSE HE HAS FOUND ACTUAL CRIMES BEING COMMITTED. SO THIS IS CENSORSHIP. DON'T TRY TO DISGUISE IT AS ANYTHING ELSE.
NEXT UP, MARGARET HANSON, FOLLOWED BY ANTONIA, THEN LESLIE SAWYER. IF I CALLED YOUR NAME, PLEASE GET IN QUEUE.
OKAY. SO THESE ARE LAWS THAT HELP US. THEY PROTECT US. BUT WHEN COUNTY COUNCIL SAID IT'S AN UNORTHODOX ISSUE, MY EARS PERKED UP BECAUSE A PUBLIC RECORDS ACT IS JUST THAT. IT'S PUBLIC. WHEN YOU REQUEST IT, YOU GET IT. THE PROBLEM IS IS THAT I'VE SEEN A LOT OF TIMES WHERE PEOPLE HAVE REQUESTED THINGS AND THEY'VE BEEN DELAYED FOR MONTHS, SOME PEOPLE A YEAR AND A HALF.
IT'S THE ATTITUDE OF THE DEPARTMENTS. YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT THE EMPLOYEES HAVE THIS BLOCK, THIS UNION, AND THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT I'M GOING TO SAY PUBLIC RECORD ACTS MEANS PUBLIC.
IN OTHER WORDS, YOU DON'T HAVE A PRIVACY ISSUE. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IT'S A BALANCING ACT, BUT I'M GOING TO TELL YOU, WHEN THE LAWYER SAID UNORTHODOX ISSUE, THAT MEANS THAT WE NEED TO PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT THE AGENDA IS. THANK YOU. NEXT UP, ANTONIA, FOLLOWED BY LESLIE SAWYER. NOT SINGING ANTONIA? COME ON UP, LESLIE.
OKAY. SO BEV MADE SOME REALLY GOOD POINTS. AND IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING, BASED ON A CONVERSATION THAT MR. CURTIS HAD BEFORE AND DURING AN INTERVIEW, THAT WHEN THE VIDEO OF HIM SHIRTLESS SURFACED, IT WAS ASKED OF HIM, DO YOU WANT THIS TO GO OUT? AND THERE WAS SOME SORT OF SAFEGUARD, AND HE SAID, ABSOLUTELY. IF IT'S BEING
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REQUESTED AND IT'S PUBLIC, LET HIM HAVE IT. SO OBVIOUSLY THERE IS A PROTOCOL WHERE IT GETS CHECKED WITH WHOEVER'S IN THE VIDEO. I DON'T KNOW.THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS THAT, AND I'VE STAYED OUT OF, LET'S PREFACE THIS, I'VE STAYED OUT OF A LOT OF THESE ISSUES BECAUSE IT HAS DIVIDED NOT ONLY OUR ENTIRE COUNTY, BUT MY BASE AND MY SIDE OF POLITICS. SO THIS IS NOT A PARTISAN ISSUE. THIS IS THE FACT THAT IF THEY ARE PUBLIC EMPLOYEES WORKING IN A PUBLIC BUILDING, AND THERE ARE VIDEO CAMERAS IN A SPACE WHERE THEY KNOW THAT THEY ARE BEING VIDEOTAPED, IT'S NOT IN A LOCKER ROOM, IT IS NOT IN A RESTROOM, IT IS NOT IN THEIR BREAK SPACE, AND THEY ARE ACCESSING DOORWAYS, OR THEY'RE DOING SOMETHING, IT IS THE PUBLIC'S RIGHT TO HAVE ACCESS TO THAT INFORMATION. PLAIN AND SIMPLE. THAT'S ALL IT IS. AND IT SHOULDN'T BE CHECKED WITH.
HEY, CLINT, YOU WERE IN THERE. YOU HAD YOUR SHIRT OFF. DO YOU WANT THIS VIDEO OUT? DOESN'T MATTER. HE KNEW THE VIDEO WAS THERE. HE'S A PUBLIC EMPLOYEE. IT'S A PUBLIC SPACE. THAT'S WHY THE CAMERAS EXIST. IT SHOULD JUST BE BLANKET ACROSS THE BOARD. THIS IS NOT A SCHOOL OR SOMEWHERE WHERE THERE'S UNDERAGE MINORS.
I UNDERSTAND THERE ARE RULES ON THAT. AND I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF EDITING OR GOING THROUGH VIDEOS BECAUSE MINORS ARE DIFFERENT. THESE ARE PUBLIC EMPLOYEES. THAT WAS OUR LAST SPEAKER, CHAIR. AND VIDEOS WERE RELEASED TO THE INTERNET, UNREDACTED, WITH ACCUSATIONS MADE AGAINST EMPLOYEES THAT, REMEMBER THAT CONSTITUTION HAS A THING IN THERE WHERE YOU ARE INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY. SO THESE WERE RELEASED TO THE PUBLIC, UNREDACTED, WITH ALLEGATIONS MADE AGAINST EMPLOYEES THAT HAVE NOT BEEN PROVEN TRUE OR ANYTHING ELSE. I THINK KRCR BECAUSE THEN WHEN THEY RELEASED THE KRCR, THEY BLURRED OUT THE IMAGES SO THAT THE EMPLOYEES COULDN'T BE IDENTIFIED. THAT'S WHAT THIS WHOLE THING IS ABOUT. SO SUPERVISOR HARMON.
I'M NOT IN. ALL RIGHT. CEO RICKERT.
THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN KALLISTER.
I JUST WANT TO ADD SOME ADDITIONAL CONTEXT TO WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THIS REQUEST ALSO. ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS TO EXPEDITIOUSLY AND QUICKLY RELEASE THIS INFORMATION TO THE PUBLIC TO PROVIDE FOR PUBLIC REQUESTS. ONE OF THE CHALLENGES WE HAVE IS WE DON'T HAVE THE NECESSARY TECHNICAL EXPERTISE TO DO THIS IN A VERY FAST OR EFFICIENT MANNER, WHICH IS WHY WE WANT TO HIRE A FIRM TO COME IN AND DO IT PROFESSIONALLY AND QUICKLY SO WE CAN GET THIS INFORMATION OUT AS QUICK AS POSSIBLE AND IN THE MOST EFFICIENT MANNER POSSIBLE AND STILL PROTECT OUR EMPLOYEES. SO AS MY UNDERSTANDING, IF A DEPARTMENT HEAD WERE TO WANT TO COME IN AND REVIEW FOOTAGE, THEY COULD REVIEW THE FOOTAGE UNREDACTED, BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO BE RELEASED TO THEM UNTIL IT IS REDACTED. IS THAT CORRECT? SO THE OFFER WE HAVE MADE, AND IT IS ONLY RELATED TO THIS ONE DEPARTMENT HEAD BECAUSE OF THE CONDUCT THAT HAS OCCURRED, THEY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME DOWN AND REVIEW ALL OF THE E -MAILS, ALL OF THE VIDEO THAT THEY WANT, AND THEN IF THEY WANT TO RELEASE CERTAIN PORTIONS OF THAT, STAFF WILL MAKE THE APPROPRIATE REDACTIONS AND MAKE IT IMMEDIATELY AVAILABLE TO PEOPLE. SO WE ARE NOT KEEPING ANYBODY FROM LOOKING AT FOOTAGE OR LOOKING AT E -MAILS UNREDACTED. WE ARE STOPPING THEM FROM RELEASING THOSE UNREDACTED. THE LIMITED PURPOSE OF THE ACTION THAT MYSELF AND CEO RICKERT HAVE TAKEN IS TO TRY TO PROTECT THE EMPLOYEES FROM ACCUSATIONS BEING MADE THAT THEY'VE COMMITTED CRIMES WHERE THERE'S BEEN NO INVESTIGATION.
THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, SUPERVISOR CRY.
AND WHEN YOU GET DONE, I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION. I'M TRYING TO CLARIFY THAT.
SO THIS IS TO PROTECT AN ACCUSATION ABOUT AN EMPLOYEE THAT HAS BEEN UNFOUNDED.
CORRECT. SO HOW WOULD THAT BE DIFFERENT? AND I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE, YOU KNOW, LET'S SAY ANY DEPARTMENT, AND THERE'S TWO EMPLOYEES AND ACCUSATIONS MADE ABOUT ANYTHING UNFOUNDED. I MEAN, DOES IT GO FOR EVERYTHING? I MEAN, OR JUST LIKE A, I MEAN, WHAT IF TWO EMPLOYEES ARE ARGUING ABOUT SOMETHING THAT SOMEBODY SAID? AND, I MEAN, IS THAT STILL PUBLIC? ARE WE LIMITING IT TO WHAT'S BEEN SAID BY ONE EMPLOYEE? YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? I'M TRYING TO. SO ULTIMATELY, IF THERE IS AN ALLEGATION OF MISCONDUCT IN THE WORKPLACE, WHETHER IT'S CRIMINAL OR OTHERWISE, THE EMPLOYEE IS ENTITLED AND THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENTS STRENGTHEN THAT, THEY'RE ENTITLED TO A FULL INVESTIGATION. IF IT'S NOT CRIMINAL IN NATURE, THEN THAT'S A CONFIDENTIAL PERSONNEL MATTER THAT WOULD NEVER BE RELEASED INTO THE PUBLIC SPHERE.
IN ADDITION TO THAT, IF IT WERE CRIMINAL, IT WOULD BE TAKEN BY A LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY WHO WOULD MAKE THE APPROPRIATE INVESTIGATION PRIOR TO BEING TURNED OVER TO THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY AND FILED.
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SO THE ISSUE HERE IS THE RESPONSIBILITY IN HOW WE'RE TAKING UNFOUNDED, AT THAT POINT, ALLEGATIONS AGAINST OUR EMPLOYEES AND PLACING THEM IN THE PRESS. IT FEELS LIKE WE'RE CREATING SOMETHING MUCH BIGGER FOR ONE THING. I MEAN, HAS THIS BEEN SOMETHING IN YOUR TIME AS A COUNTY COUNCIL THAT'S COME UP IN OTHER JURISDICTIONS, CITIES, COUNTIES THAT YOU'VE BEEN A PART OF? NO, I HAVE NEVER DEALT WITH A DEPARTMENT HEAD WHO HAS MADE PUBLIC ALLEGATIONS THAT HAVEN'T BEEN INVESTIGATED.IT FEELS, I MEAN, I'D BE CURIOUS, ESPECIALLY FROM A LAW ENFORCEMENT PERSPECTIVE, I'D BE CURIOUS TO HEAR SUPERVISOR LONG, SO I'LL STOP.
THANK YOU, CHAIR. MY QUESTION FOR COUNCIL IS, I WANT TO UNDERSTAND THIS IS THE, WE'RE MAKING A VOTE TO GO OUT FOR RFP TO EXPEDITE THE PROCESSING OF THESE VIDEOS THROUGH A THIRD -PARTY FIRM, CORRECT? CORRECT. OKAY. AND SO WOULD THAT FIRM DO ANYTHING DIFFERENTLY THAN WHAT OUR CURRENT POLICY IS WHERE A DEPARTMENT HEAD CAN COME DOWN AND SIT AND VIEW EVERYTHING, BUT FOR THE EMPLOYEE'S PROTECTION, THINGS WILL GET REDACTED.
WOULD IT CHANGE THAT PROCESS IN ANY FASHION, OR WOULD IT JUST BE DONE BY A THIRD PARTY? REDACTED IF THEY ARE RELEASED. SO THIS IS ON THE BACK END OF THAT. THIS IS WHERE WE'VE DONE THE COLLECTION OF THE DATA FOR A PRA, AND WE'RE SEEKING A FIRM THAT CAN, IN AN EXPEDITIOUS MANNER, MAKE THOSE REDACTIONS BASED ON WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.
OKAY, SO IT WOULD BE, SO NOTHING WOULD CHANGE UP FRONT FOR THE ABILITY OF A DEPARTMENT HEAD TO REVIEW IN ITS AGGREGATE FORM, AND THEN THIS IS JUST A SIMPLE PROCESS TO, INSTEAD OF COUNTY STAFF DOING THE REDACTIONS FOR EMPLOYEE SECURITY AND PROTECTION, ALL WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE SUBMITTING FOR AN RFP TO GET A THIRD PARTY TO INCREASE THE SPEED OF THE RESPONSE TO THE PRA REQUESTS. THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY, THANK YOU.
SUPERVISOR CRAIG. YEAH, SEE YOUR RECORD. IS THERE A COST SAVINGS? I MEAN, IS THIS A POSITION OR PUTTING THIS RFP OR THE PROCUREMENT, IS THIS SOMETHING YOU WOULD SEE AS ONGOING, OR IS YOU SEEING THIS SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE MAYBE HAVING A SUNSET? THEY'RE OVERWHELMED RIGHT NOW. I THINK COUNCIL LARMOR HAS DEMONSTRATED THIS AS A VERY UNIQUE SITUATION IN THAT SIGNIFICANT QUANTITIES OF VIDEO ARE BEING REQUESTED, AND BECAUSE OF THE NATURE OF A CERTAIN DEPARTMENT HEAD'S CONDUCT, WE ARE IN A POSITION WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO PROTECT EMPLOYEES FROM UNWARRANTED AND UNFOUNDED ALLEGATIONS. AND SO THIS IS A ONE -OFF. THIS ISN'T A REGULAR COURSE CHANGE OR POLICY CHANGE.
WE'VE NEVER HAD ANOTHER DEPARTMENT HEAD DO WHAT WAS DONE TO THESE EMPLOYEES, SO WE'RE TRYING TO TAKE REASONABLE STEPS AND PRECAUTIONS TO PROTECT STAFF GOING FORWARD FROM THESE ALLEGATIONS AND TO DO SO IN AN EFFICIENT AND ECONOMICAL MANNER. SO TWO AND THREE, THOUGH, REALLY IS JUST ABOUT THE PROCESS. SO EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN TALKED ABOUT HERE, THERE'S STILL ACCESS TO THAT PUBLIC FOOTAGE, REALLY. WE'RE NOT GOING TO MAKE ANY DENIALS OF PROVIDING THIS. WHAT WE'RE RUNNING INTO, AND WITH OUR INTERNAL STAFF, IT TAKES ABOUT TWO DAYS TO REDACT ONE HOUR OF VIDEO.
AND BASED ON THE SHEER NUMBER THAT'S BEEN ASKED, OR THE SHEER NUMBER OF HOURS THAT HAVE BEEN REQUESTED, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD BE YEARS OUT OF PROVIDING THAT VIDEO. SO WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY TRYING TO DO HERE IS MAKE THIS MORE OF AN EXPEDITED PROCESS TO GET THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO HAVE REQUESTED THIS, THEIR VIDEO AT A QUICKER PACE, BUT WITH THE REDACTIONS OF THE IDENTITIES OF THE EMPLOYEES, BUT NOT THEIR ACTUAL ACTIONS.
SO YOU WILL BE ABLE TO SEE WHAT OCCURRED ON THE VIDEO. YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY THE EMPLOYEE.
YEAH. I MEAN, SOME OF THE SPEAKERS UP HERE, I'M NOT SURE IF THEY MISUNDERSTAND WHAT'S BEING SAID BECAUSE THERE'S STILL ACCESS TO IT, AND REALLY THIS GETS IT TO THEM FASTER. AND IN TERMS OF A COST SAVINGS, AS LONG AS IT'S, I MEAN, I GET IT. YEAH, I DON'T, YEAH, OKAY. ALL RIGHT, SO I HAVE NOT GOTTEN A MOTION YET, SO I'LL MAKE THE MOTION MYSELF TO APPROVE AS WRITTEN. I'LL SECOND. SECOND BY SUPERVISOR LONG, MOTION MADE BY MYSELF.
WE'LL TAKE A ROLL CALL STARTING WITH SUPERVISOR LONG THIS TIME.
SUPERVISOR CRAIG? JUST READING THIS NOTE, I'VE GOT TO ASK A CLARIFYING QUESTION BECAUSE I DON'T WANT THIS TO BE A FLOCK CAMERA THING AGAIN. SO PUBLIC STILL HAS ABSOLUTE ACCESS TO THIS. THIS IS GOING TO SPEED THIS UP. OUR INTENT IS NOT TO RESTRICT ANY VIDEO.
IT'S ONLY TO DE -IDENTIFY EMPLOYEES. WHAT I'M SAYING IS THIS IS GOING TO GET THE PUBLIC ACCESS TO WHATEVER THEY WANT
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IN ANY DEPARTMENT JUST QUICKER.WITH REDACTIONS. THAT'S THE KEY THING HERE IS, SO DEPARTMENT HEADS CAN SEE IT WITHOUT REDACTIONS, THE PUBLIC WILL SEE IT WITH REDACTIONS. THIS WILL ENABLE US TO DO THE REDACTIONS. HERE'S MY QUESTION ABOUT THE REDACTIONS. ARE WE TALKING ABOUT BLURRED FACES? YES. YES. SO BLURRED FACES. SO AUDIO IS STILL AVAILABLE? I DON'T BELIEVE THAT ANY OF OUR CAMERAS ACTUALLY HAVE AUDIO.
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IF IT'S AVAILABLE, IT'S AVAILABLE. OKAY, SO BLURRED FACES. YES. SO YOU STILL, OKAY, YEAH, YES.SUPERVISOR PLUMMER. AND SUPERVISOR PLUMMER. YES. ALL RIGHT, PASSES 5 -0. MOVING ON,
[R10 PUBLIC EMPLOYEE PERFORMANCE EVALUATION (Government Code Section 54957(b)(1)): Title: County Counsel]
CLOSED SESSION. DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS? ONE MOMENT, CHAIR.WE DO. WE HAVE FIVE SPEAKERS FOR R -10, SIX SPEAKERS FOR R -11, AND ONE SPEAKER FOR R -12.
FIRST UP, KIM MOORE, FOLLOWED BY SHASTA COUNTY WATCHDOG, BEV, LAURA HOBBS, THEN ANTONIA. IF I CALLED YOUR NAME, PLEASE GET IN QUEUE. MR. PRESIDENT, CAN I, WAIT, BEFORE WE DO R -10? OKAY, SURE.
YEAH, I WANT TO... ONE SECOND, KIM. YEAH, BEFORE MS. MOORE, YOU COME UP. COME ON UP, THOUGH, KIM.
BUT AS WE APPROACH R -10, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THIS, AND I'VE SAID THIS SO MANY TIMES, THAT THOSE TWO GENTLEMEN TO THE RIGHT, YOUR LEFT, GET ZERO VOTES. THEY'RE HIRED AND FIRED BY THE FIVE -MEMBER BODY OF THIS BOARD. THEY GIVE ADVICE. SOMETIMES IT'S TAKEN.
OTHER TIMES IT'S NOT. SO AS YOU GO INTO THIS ABOUT PUBLIC EMPLOYEE EVALUATION, THE VITRIOL, IF YOU DON'T LIKE EITHER OF THEM, RESTS ON THE SHOULDERS OF US. AND WHEN I SAY US, I MEAN THIS BOARD, WHOEVER IT MAKES UP, OF FIVE PEOPLE. SO IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE ADVICE THEY GET, BLAME THE SUPERVISORS.
BUT I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT, BECAUSE I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT, AS THE ONLY TWO EMPLOYEES WE OVERSEE, IF THEIR EVALUATION COMES UP AND THEY'RE ATTACKED, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO SAY ANYTHING. AND I FEEL LIKE IT'S MY DUTY OR ROLE AS AN EMPLOYER, ONE OF FIVE, TO STAND UP FOR MY EMPLOYEES.
WITH THAT, KIM MOORE. WELL, KEVIN, I COULD SEE WHY YOU'D WANT TO STAND UP FOR DAVE. HE SACRIFICED A LOT, AND HE'S BEEN DOING A GOOD JOB.
AS FOR OUR ATTORNEY HERE, HE'S DRUG US INTO COURT, COST US A LOT OF MONEY, HAD MUD FLUNG ON SUPERVISORS' FACES FOR DECISIONS. HE'S IN CAHOOTS WITH THIS DUDE.
IT IS DON'T TRUST HIM. AND YOU SAY, SO YOU GUYS ARE RESPONSIBLE.
IF WE HAVE SOMETHING NEGATIVE THAT WE WANT TO SAY ABOUT THEM, IT FALLS ON YOUR SHOULDERS. WELL, SHAME ON ALL OF YOU FOR HIRING HIM, AND SHAME ON ALL OF YOU FOR NOT FIRING HIM BY NOW. THE IDEA OF CONSIDERING GIVING HIM A RAISE AFTER WHAT THIS COUNTY HAS BEEN THROUGH, THIS IS LIKE HAVING POWERS AND PRINCIPALITIES SITTING IN THE DIOCESE RIGHT HERE IN OUR OWN BOARD MEETINGS. I LOOK AT HIM, AND I SEE THE DEVIL, JUST AS I DO WITH HIM. BOTH OF THEM CARRY WATER FOR SATAN. THEY BEHAVE IN A WAY THAT IS NOT IN OUR BEST INTEREST, THAT ISN'T IN THE INTEREST OF THE PEOPLE. AND IT'S FOR POLITICAL SIDES. HIS BACKROOM DEALS WITH MARY RICKERT. IT'S DESPICABLE. AND HIM AND HIS VOTING AGAINST US IN OUR ATTEMPTS TO SECURE OUR ELECTIONS.
KEVIN, YOU CAN'T. IT'S MY TIME.
I KNOW. IT'S MY TIME, BROTHER. HE DOESN'T VOTE. HE HAS WORKED TO PREVENT US FROM SECURING OUR ELECTIONS.
IT IS NOT JUST A PRIORITY OF THE VOTERS OF SHASTA COUNTY. IT'S A PRIORITY OF 85 % OF AMERICANS. WE DON'T TRUST OUR ELECTIONS. HALF THE PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO VOTE BECAUSE THEY DON'T TRUST THE ELECTIONS. AND HE HAS BLOCKED US FROM SECURING THEM. NEXT UP, SHASTA COUNTY WATCHDOG, FOLLOWED BY BEV, LAURA, HOBBS, AND ANTONIA. IF I CALLED YOUR NAME, PLEASE GET IN QUEUE.
WELL, CLINT CURTIS, I WON'T GO INTO YOU, MR. LARMER. DON'T WANT TO WASTE MY TIME ON THAT. CLINT CURTIS IS AN R11. OKAY. SO WHAT IS IT, 10? YEAH. OKAY. SO LET'S GO ON THERE. OKAY. SO IF YOU ARE THE ATTORNEY FOR THE COUNTY, I DO BELIEVE THAT YOU ACTUALLY VIOLATED A COUPLE RIGHTS OF SOME OF THE CITIZENS. I DO BELIEVE THAT YOU VIOLATED A, I THINK IT WAS JENNY ON THE WAY WHEN SHE WAS ARRESTED. THERE'S THE TRANSCRIPTS. SO I THINK YOU'VE DONE QUITE A FEW THINGS THAT IT'S AGAINST THE PEOPLE'S RIGHTS.
AND YOU ACTUALLY, YOUR GIRLFRIEND WORKS FOR KEVIN CRY IN HIS NINJA COALITION. YOU DO HAVE SOME KIND OF CONFLICT, SO DOES KEVIN CRY. SO THERE'S THINGS THAT HAVE COME UP. I DO BELIEVE THAT HE SHOULD RECUSE HIMSELF BECAUSE YOU ARE DATING HIS EMPLOYEE. SO I THINK YOU GUYS NEED TO CONSIDER THAT BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T PUSH THAT, THEN YOU ACTUALLY BEING FALLING INTO THE SAME SITUATION. SO, YEAH. AND THEN I KNOW THAT YOU ALSO HIRE SOMEONE WHO ACTUALLY IS FROM RED BLUFF, THE OTHER
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ATTORNEY, WHICH IT'S ACTUALLY, THAT WAS A CONFLICT OF INTEREST. THERE'S SOME LAWS THAT YOU ACTUALLY VIOLATED THAT I ACTUALLY KNOW THAT FOR A FACT BECAUSE I'VE BEEN KEEPING TRACK, SO IF YOU'RE GOING TO GIVE HIM A RAISE, I DO CONSIDER, I MEAN, I'M JUST GIVING YOU MY OPINION BECAUSE YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO DO WHATEVER YOU WANT. I THINK YOU GUYS NEED TO CONSIDER HOW LONG OF A CONTRACT YOU WANT TO GIVE THEM BECAUSE I THINK THE NEW BOARD, IF YOU DON'T GET ELECTED, CHRIS, I DO BELIEVE THEY HAVE THE OPTION TO GET RID OF HIM, BASICALLY, WHEN THEY GET SOMEBODY ELSE TAKES OVER YOUR PLACE. SO THERE'S THAT. SO I THINK HE NEEDS TO GO, BUT THAT'S YOUR CHOICE. NEXT UP, BEV, FOLLOWED BY LAURA HOBBS, THEN ANTONIA. IF I CALLED YOUR NAME, PLEASE GET IN QUEUE. THANK YOU.COUNTY COUNCIL HAS BEEN RUNNING THIS COUNTY FOR SOME TIME NOW. HE IS PUTTING YOU GUYS AT RISK BY PRESENTING ONLY INFORMATION BASED ON HOW HE WANTS YOU TO VOTE, WHICH OFTEN IS NOT FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE COUNTY. HE MAKES BETWEEN $16 ,328 TO $20 ,840 PER MONTH, WHICH TRANSLATES TO $195 ,936 PER YEAR AND TO $250 ,080 PER YEAR BASED ON THE MOST CURRENT INFO THAT I COULD FIND. FIGURE OUT HOW MUCH MONEY HE HAS COST THE COUNTY AND FACTOR THAT INTO HOW MUCH HE SHOULD MAKE.
CALIFORNIA IS BROKE. WHERE WILL THE MONEY COME FROM? HE SHOULD BE EARNING HIS PAYCHECK, NOT JUST BEING GIVEN IT. THANK YOU. LAURA HOBBS UP NEXT, FOLLOWED BY ANTONIA.
ALL RIGHT. THERE'S JUST SO MANY THINGS TO SAY HERE, BUT WE DO NOT NEED TO GIVE HIM A PROMOTION. WE DO NOT NEED TO GIVE HIM A RAISE.
HE HAS COSTED THE TAXPAYERS WAY TOO MUCH MONEY AS IT IS. HE'S MADE BAD ADVICE TO YOU GUYS, AND YOU GUYS UNFORTUNATELY HAVE FOLLOWED IT. IT'S 5 -0 EVERY TIME. WHATEVER HE TELLS YOU, YOU GUYS DO. IT'S A BAD LOOK.
HE'S SUED PERSONAL CITIZENS, THE SHASTA 5, AS INDIVIDUALS BECAUSE HE DID NOT WANT TO DO HIS JOB TO WRITE THE TITLE AND SUMMARY FOR MEASURE B. HE PUT ON THERE THAT HE WANTED US CITIZENS TO PAY THE LAWYER FEES. HE WAS SO ARROGANT. HE THOUGHT HE WAS GOING TO WIN THAT. HE HAD KELLSTROM CONVINCED IT WAS GOING TO BE AN OPEN AND SHUT CASE, AND HE JUST STRUTTED AROUND LIKE HE CONTROLLED EVERYBODY, AND HE DID. AND HE WAS WRONG, AND HE WAS MADE TO DROP THAT SUIT AND PAY OUR LAWYER FEES.
BUT THIS IS THE PERSON THAT YOU HIRED. HE'S NOT A GOOD PERSON.
HE'S NOT A GOOD MAN. HE'S NOT GOOD. HE DOES NOT DO WHAT THE CITIZENS OF SHASTA COUNTY WANT.
AND IF YOU GUYS SAY THAT, KEVIN, YOUR LITTLE MONOLOGUE ABOUT IT'S ALL ABOUT YOU GUYS AND IT FALLS ON YOUR SHOULDERS, WELL, LOOK, IF THAT'S THE CASE, THEN YOU GUYS, GUESS WHO YOU'RE RESPONSIVE TO? YOU'RE RESPONSIVE TO THE PEOPLE. YOU GUYS AREN'T KINGS SITTING UP THERE. YOU GUYS EACH ARE RESPONSIBLE TO THE CITIZENS. AND THE CITIZENS ARE SAYING, THIS MAN DOES NOT BELONG IN THIS SEAT. HE'S A NIGHT SCHOOL LAWYER. HE'S NOT QUALIFIED TO PRACTICE ANYWHERE BUT CALIFORNIA. HE IS NOT, YOU GUYS TALK HIM UP. IT'S NOT AS, HE DOESN'T WALK ON WATER.
HE'S BOTTOM OF THE BARREL. AND HE'S GOT A LOT OF BAR COMPLAINTS AGAINST HIM. SO I HOPE THAT HE WILL EVENTUALLY LOSE HIS BAR LICENSE BECAUSE HE'S NOT REPRESENTING SHASTA COUNTY WELL. AND YOU GUYS DON'T LOOK GOOD WHEN YOU PROMOTE SOMEONE LIKE THAT. THANK YOU. NEXT UP, ANTONIA. NOT SEEING ANTONIA.
FIRST UP TO SPEAK, KIM MOORE, FOLLOWED BY SHASTA COUNTY WATCHDOG, BEV, THEN LAURA HOBBS. IF I CALLED YOUR NAME, PLEASE GET IN QUEUE. THANK YOU.
HEY, JOSEPH. I KNOW WHERE THE DOJ AND HSI RIGHT NOW, I MEAN HOMELAND SECURITY, DO YOU KNOW WHERE THEY'RE AT? THE DAY IS COMING. SO ALL THIS BS AND WHAT YOU GUYS HAVE DONE AT CLINT CURTIS AND TALKING ABOUT, OOH, WHAT HE DID AS A HEAD OF HIS DEPARTMENT WAS THE BEST MOVE A DEPARTMENT HEAD HAS EVER MADE.
BECAUSE THE CITIZENS WHO HAVE BEEN ASKING YOU GUYS TO HELP US SECURE OUR ELECTIONS KNEW THAT ALL THIS FRAUD AND SHENANIGANS AND FUKERY WAS GOING ON IN THERE. AND WE FINALLY GOT A DEPARTMENT HEAD THAT WAS WILLING TO ADMIT IT, WHICH MAKES THE REST OF YOU WHO ARE TRYING TO HIDE IT A BUNCH OF SCHMUCKS. NEXT UP, SHASTA COUNTY WATCHDOG, FOLLOWED BY BEV, LAURA HOBBS, THEN ANTONIA.
I THINK THAT CLINT CURTIS, HIS
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LITIGATION, THE PROBLEMS HE'S CAUSED, HE'S CAUSED CHAOS IN THIS COUNTY.HE ALLOWED A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE EMPLOYEES, I MEAN THE EMPLOYEES THAT HE HAS HIRED IS THE GROUP, HATER GROUP. IT'S A GROUP THAT HATES THE OTHER SIDE. AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE OTHER SIDE IS, OR MAYBE IT'S BECAUSE THEY DON'T AGREE WITH THEM. WHAT I FILED EARLIER WAS THAT MICHELLE TASSEN, I THINK IT IS, SHE ACTUALLY IS RUNNING FOR A POSITION FOR THE OFFICE OF EDUCATION. WHILE SHE HELPED ME TO PUT MY DOCUMENTS TOGETHER FOR ME TO, FOR TENNESSEE TO RUN FOR SHASTA LAKE. YOU CAN'T DO THAT. YOU CAN'T HELP OTHER PEOPLE. WHILE YOU'RE ALSO RUNNING AN EMPLOYEE OF THE COUNTY. SO, ALSO, WERE YOU AWARE, CHRIS, THIS AFFECTS YOU. WERE YOU AWARE THAT SOMEBODY WHO ACTUALLY RAN FOR YOUR POSITION COMMITTED A CRIME? MR. CHAIRMAN, THIS IS RELATED TO THIS. IT IS, HERE'S THE THING. THIS APPLIES TO CLINT CURTIS, BECAUSE HE ALLOWED THIS. YOU KNOW, A SHERIFF ACTUALLY HAS BEEN ARRESTED IN THE PAST FOR MAKING FALSE ALLEGATIONS FOR WHERE HE LIVED. DID YOU KNOW THAT CLINT CURTIS, CLINT CURTIS, CLINT CURTIS, ALLEGATIONS HE'S MADE OVER AND OVER. I KNOW THAT I'M TRYING TO TELL YOU THAT SOMEBODY ACTUALLY USED A FALSE ADDRESS TO RUN.
IT COSTS VOTES. SO, THIS HAS HAPPENED IN THE OFFICE MULTIPLE TIMES IN THE ELECTION. CLINT CURTIS DOES NEED TO GO. HE HAS CAUSED A LOT OF PROBLEMS. MR. CHAIRMAN, SHE'S ON TOP OF IT.
YEAH, THIS IS ARNIE LIST VERSUS CLINT CURTIS. WELL, IT IS. I KNOW. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HIM. THIS IS WHAT'S HAPPENED. DO YOU KNOW WHO ARNIE LIST IS? WELL, OKAY, NEXT UP, BEV, FOLLOWED BY LAURA HOBBS, ANTONIA, THEN JENNY. IF I CALLED YOUR NAME, PLEASE GET IN QUEUE.
SO, THERE'S A LAWSUIT AGAINST DESTROYING THE BALLOTS FOR THE 2024 ELECTION. I'D LIKE TO SEE MR. CURTIS REPRESENT HIMSELF AND NOT COUNTY COUNCIL. YOU DON'T HIRE A FOX TO WATCH THE HEN HOUSE.
IT'S BEEN OBVIOUS COUNTY COUNCIL HAS A PERSONAL VENDETTA AGAINST MR. CURTIS. MR. CURTIS WANTS HONESTY, HONEST ELECTIONS. I DON'T WANT TO HEAR THE BS THAT THERE IS NO FRAUD IN OUR ELECTION. THERE IS SO MUCH PROOF.
BUT WHEN YOU DON'T WANT TO SEE IT OR MAYBE YOU'RE BEING PAID TO NOT SEE IT, LET'S MAKE CLINT CURTIS REPRESENT THIS LAWSUIT. THANK YOU. NEXT UP, LAURA HOBBS, FOLLOWED BY ANTONIA, THEN JENNY. IF I CALLED YOUR NAME, PLEASE GET IN QUEUE.
ALL RIGHT. SO, THIS LAWSUIT IS ABOUT RETAINING THE BALLOTS FROM 2024. THAT WAS A DUMPSTER FIRE OF AN ELECTION. THIS WAS THE INK OVER SPRAY ELECTION WHERE OVER HALF OF THE CITIZENS' BALLOTS GOT DUPLICATED IN PRIVATE WITHOUT PUBLIC OVERSIGHT.
THERE'S A LOT OF REASONS NOT TO TRUST THE RESULTS OF THAT ELECTION, AND I THINK HIS CONCERNS ARE VALID.
IN FACT, THERE WAS A WHOLE CASE ABOUT THIS AS WELL. AND IF ANYONE WANTS TO LEARN MORE, GO TO SHASTAVOTE .ORG, CLICK ON THE BULLETIN, AND THEN LOOK AT LADD VERSUS TOLERATE. IT DOCUMENTS EVERYTHING. THERE WAS ALMOST 3 ,000 MORE BALLOTS COUNTED THAN THERE WERE VOTERS.
THIS IS CLINT CURTIS. THIS IS ABOUT THE 2024 ELECTION. DON'T INTERRUPT ME. THAT'S WHAT HE WANTS. HE WANTS TO RETAIN THESE BALLOTS BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF FRAUD, NOT JUST HAPPENING TODAY, NOT JUST THE JUNE ELECTION.
AND THESE BALLOTS ARE ABOUT TO BE DESTROYED. THIS IS PHYSICAL EVIDENCE OF FRAUD IN OUR ELECTIONS. AND I DON'T THINK THIS COUNTY SHOULD GET INVOLVED IN THIS CASE ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. GO AHEAD AND DO LIKE YOU DID WITH MEASURE B.
SAY YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SUPPORT OR DEFEND BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE A DOG IN THIS FIGHT.
LARMOR'S GOING TO ADVISE YOU THAT YOU NEED TO VIGOROUSLY DEFEND IT, AND THOSE BALLOTS NEED TO BE DESTROYED ASAP BECAUSE HE'S COMPLICIT. HE'S TRYING TO COVER UP THE FRAUD. HE'S ACTUALLY INVOLVING HIMSELF IN A WAY THAT HE COULD BE CRIMINALLY CONNECTED TO THIS. WHAT WE'RE SEEING NOW IS THIS COUNTY IS SO CORRUPT THAT IT GOES ACROSS ALL THE LEVELS, ALL THE WAY TO THE TOP, TO THE CEO'S OFFICE AS WELL.
SO I WOULD ADVISE YOU IN CLOSED SESSION TO NOT VOTE TO SUPPORT THIS OR DEFEND THIS.
ALL HE WANTS IS A TEMPORARY RESTRAINING ORDER SO THAT THOSE BALLOTS DO NOT GET DESTROYED.
THE CITIZENS OF SHASTA COUNTY WANT TRANSPARENCY. WE WANT TO KNOW THAT WE CAN TRUST OUR ELECTIONS AND THAT WE CAN TRUST THAT OUR OFFICIALS ARE ELECTED FAIRLY. NEXT UP, ANTONIA. NOT
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SEEING ANTONIA. JENNY. AFTER JENNY, WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM R12, WHICH WE HAVE ONE PERSON IN QUEUE, SHASTA COUNTY WATCHDOG. JENNY, COME ON UP.I'D LIKE TO SAY THAT I'M SUPER SURPRISED HERE. ON TODAY'S AGENDA IS A LAWSUIT INVOLVING OUR PUBLIC OFFICIAL, REGISTERED VOTERS CLINT CURTIS. BUT CONSIDERING HE'S A WELL -KNOWN LAWYER IN FLORIDA FOR WHAT HE CALLED IN AN ACTUAL CONVERSATION WITH ME, NOXIOUS LAWSUITS OR LAWSUITS THAT FLOOD THE COURT SO FREQUENTLY THAT AN INDIVIDUAL CANNOT BE SEEN IN COURT. HE'S STILL IN THE MIDDLE OF A LAWSUIT IN FLORIDA RIGHT NOW. HE'S FROM L .A. COUNTY WHO HAS BEEN HANGING OUT WITH MR. CURTIS, INTERVIEWING MR. CURTIS ON HIS SOCIAL MEDIA QUITE REGULARLY, IS THE ONE SUING THE DEPARTMENT IN ORDER TO FORCE THE STATE TO REQUEST THE BALLOTS TO BE KEPT PAST THEIR DATE TO BE DESTROYED. THE ELECTION WAS CERTIFIED BY BOTH THE BOARD AND THE ELECTIONS OFFICE. THIS IS ONE MORE EXAMPLE OF A FRIVOLOUS LAWSUIT TRYING TO TIE UP THE COURTS. I SUGGEST THE COUNTY DOES ITS BEST TO GET THIS SUIT DROPPED AS SOON AS POSSIBLE SO WE CAN ALL GET BACK TO THE ACTUAL BUSINESS OF THE BOARD. THANK YOU.
COUNCIL LORMER, CAN YOU REPEAT WHAT R12 IS ABOUT? IT IS JUST THE POSSIBLE INITIATION OF LITIGATION.
OKAY. YOU'RE TRYING TO MAKE IT CLEAR FOR ME TO STAY IN FOCUS? I WANTED TO REMEMBER MYSELF. YEAH.
OKAY. WELL, IT'S PRETTY HARD WHEN YOU AIN'T GOT NOTHING ON THERE. BUT I THINK HE NEEDS TO BE STOPPED. HE NEEDS TO GO TO PRISON. CLINT CURTIS HAS DONE CRIMINAL ACTIVITY AND WE KNOW THAT. AND FOR HIM TO TRY TO HIJACK THE ELECTION FOR IT TO STOP DESTROYING THOSE BALLOTS, THAT'S CALLING A HIJACKING.
HE'S TRYING TO HIJACK BECAUSE HE WANTS TO STAY IN OFFICE. HE WANTS TO CLAIM THERE WAS ELECTION FRAUD.
WELL, IT'S THE SAME THING. IT DOESN'T SAY ANYTHING ON THE DOCUMENT, SO HOW DO YOU EXPECT ME TO STAY FOCUSED? THAT'S WHY I HAD HIM REPEAT IT. WELL, YEAH.
WELL, I'M JUST LETTING YOU KNOW HE NEEDS TO GO TO PRISON.
BOTTOM LINE, HE'S COMMITTED FEDERAL CRIMES.
IN THIS COUNTY, HE NEEDS TO GO AWAY. THIS IS RIDICULOUS.
WE CAN'T EVEN TALK ABOUT CERTAIN THINGS, BUT YET HE'S COMMITTED CRIMES IN THIS OFFICE. HE HAS DESTROYED THE COUNTY. WE CAN'T HAVE HIM DO THIS AND CONTINUE.
HOW MANY TIMES ARE WE GOING TO HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT WHO WON, WHO DIDN'T WIN, AND ALL WE HAVE IS A BUNCH OF PEOPLE CRYING ABOUT EVERYTHING ELSE? IT'S NEVER GOING TO STOP. THEY'RE CLAIMING FRAUD FOR FOUR YEARS ALMOST. THANK YOU. AND WITH THAT... I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION. JOE, OR COUNCIL LARMER, ON R11, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DISCUSS OUTSIDE OF CLOSED SESSION? THAT'S A BOARD DECISION. I WILL TELL YOU THAT THE INITIAL TRO WAS HEARD IN COURT TODAY.
YEAH. I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT. I WOULDN'T SAY AN ATTEMPT, BUT JUST FOR PUBLIC AWARENESS, EVEN OURS, THAT ALREADY HAPPENED.
SO CAN YOU TELL US THE RESULT OF WHAT HAPPENED? BECAUSE I THINK THE MORE TRANSPARENT WE CAN BE IN THIS PROCESS AS INDIVIDUAL SUPERVISORS, AS A COLLECTIVE BOARD, AND AS A COUNTY, I THINK THAT WOULD BE GREAT. I MEAN, CAN YOU TELL US WHAT HAPPENED OVER THERE? THE TRO WAS DENIED.
SO THE TRO DENIED... SO THAT MEANS IT MOVES TOWARDS... IT JUST SAYS THERE'S NO RESTRAINING ORDER.
BASED ON THE TRO BEING DENIED, THOSE DOCUMENTS WERE TO BE DESTROYED LAST FRIDAY, AND THEY ARE NOW TO BE DESTROYED AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
OKAY. SO I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE BRING THIS OUT OF CLOSED SESSION AND DISCUSS HERE, LIVE, R11. ALL RIGHT.
[R11 CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL – EXISTING LITIGATION (Government Code Section 54956.9(d)(1)): Name of Case: List v. Clint Curtis, in his official capacity as Shasta County Clerk/Registrar of Voters, et al., Superior Court of California, County of Shasta, Case No. 211712]
ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY COMMENTS BEFORE WE TAKE A VOTE? ALL RIGHT. SO TO DISCUSS THIS OPENLY RATHER THAN IN CLOSED SESSION ON R11, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. NO.NO? ANY OTHER OPPOSED? THAT PASSES 4 -1. WERE YOU ASKED, MATT? YES. OKAY. SO PASSES 4 -1. ALL RIGHT. SUPERVISOR CRIPE, THIS IS YOUR IDEA.
WELL, IT'S MINE IN THE SENSE THAT, LIKE, IT'S REALLY TOUGH, AND I WON'T EVEN SAY SOME OF THE SPEAKERS BY NAME, BECAUSE SOME OF THEM ARE SOME OF, LIKE, VERY, VERY DEAR PEOPLE WHO I'VE MET SINCE I ENTERED FORMAL POLITICS IN 21 OR 22.
BECAUSE AT TIMES, THEY'RE VERY COHERENT, ARTICULATE, VERY SENSIBLE,
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AND THEN THERE'S SOME ITEMS THAT, LIKE, YOU KNOW, ALL OF US, WE CAN JUST GET REALLY, YOU KNOW, CHARGED UP AND OUT THERE AND COULDN'T BE MORE WRONG. I WANT TO MAKE SURE, COUNTY COUNCIL, DOES THIS BOARD HAVE THE ABILITY TO DICTATE TO THE SHERIFF, THE ASSESSOR, TAX COLLECTOR, ANY ELECTED, CAN WE REALLY TELL THEM WHAT TO DO? LIKE, WE HAVE OVERSIGHT, AS FAR AS I'VE BEEN LED TO BELIEVE, WE HAVE OVERSIGHT OVER THEIR BUDGETS, CORRECT? SO, I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY, MORE BROADLY, YOU KNOW, THE BOARD CAN TAKE COURT ACTION AGAINST AN ELECTED OFFICIAL.YEAH. SO, TO THE EXTENT THAT THE LAW ALLOWS. SO, CONSTITUTIONAL DUTIES OF AN ELECTED OFFICER, JUST LIKE ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC CAN FILE A WRIT OF MANDATE, THERE ARE POSSIBILITIES TO DO THAT. THOSE WOULD BE VERY CASE -SPECIFIC, AND IT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT THE BOARD WOULD DISCUSS WITH COUNSEL. BECAUSE I KNOW, LIKE, I JUST, SEEING MS. SHORT IN THE AUDIENCE, I MEAN, I KNOW THAT SHE SPONSORED A PIECE OF LEGISLATION, WORKED REALLY HARD ON AS, YOU KNOW, AN AUDITOR CONTROLLER.
SO, SHE, YOU KNOW, IN HER DUTY DID THAT. ROV CURTIS, IF HE CHOOSES NOT TO FOLLOW WHAT THE STATE WANTS, AS AN ELECTED OFFICIAL. SO, I WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS CASE IS ABOUT.
THIS CASE IS ABOUT A THIRD PARTY TRYING TO FORCE THE ISSUE OF MAINTAINING THE DOCUMENTS.
OKAY. BUT ULTIMATELY, LIKE, THE ROV'S IN SHOCK. I JUST WANT THIS PUBLIC, SO I CAN TALK ABOUT IT. LIKE, ROV CURTIS, LIKE, HE CAN DO WHATEVER HE WANTS.
WITHIN THE CONFINES OF THE LAW. WELL, BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS, LIKE, HE'S HIS OWN MAN, AND WHATEVER HE DOES. SO, WHATEVER WE DECIDE UP HERE, IF HE SAYS, NO, I'M GOING TO DO THIS, I'M AN ELECTED OFFICIAL, I HAVE THE POWER TO DO THIS, AND LET THE CHIPS FALL WHERE THEY MAY, DO WE RECOMMEND THAT? NO.
SO, AGAIN, THE DECISION THE BOARD IS MAKING TODAY IS HOW TO HANDLE THE LITIGATION, NOT TO SEND ANY DIRECTION TO MR. CURTIS. OKAY. WELL, BECAUSE WHAT I WANT PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND AS THEY COME UP HERE IS, LIKE, I DON'T WANT OTHER ELECTEDS HIDING BEHIND THINGS WE DO AND SAYS THEY CAN'T DO SOMETHING. I MEAN, UP HERE, US FIVE, ANY FIVE THAT SITS UP HERE, THEY CAN'T DO ANYTHING INDIVIDUALLY. IT HAS TO BE COLLECTIVE, BUT INDIVIDUAL OFFICE HOLDERS, LIKE, THE BUCK STOPS WITH THEM, AND THAT'S WHERE THE VITRIOL AND PEOPLE TO SAY, STAND UP, SHOULD HAPPEN, PERSONALLY. I MEAN, IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S SURE AS HECK NOT YOU.
ANYWAY, I JUST, I WANT THE DISCUSSION. SO, IT'S, OKAY. SO, THIS MATTER WAS FILED BY MR. LIST, AND WE RECEIVED NOTICE OF THAT ON FRIDAY, OR THURSDAY, I BELIEVE, ON THIS ONE, AND THAT HE, HIS ATTEMPT WAS TO GET A TEMPORARY RESTRAINING ORDER TO PREVENT MR. CURTIS FROM DESTROYING THE DOCUMENTS THE VERY NEXT DAY ON A FRIDAY. HE HAD REQUESTED THAT THE COURT MAKE AN IMMEDIATE DETERMINATION. THE COURT DECLINED TO DO THAT, SET THIS HEARING FOR THE 17TH, WHICH WOULD HAVE BEEN AFTER THE DESTRUCTION DATE BY LAW, WHICH WAS SEPTEMBER 11TH.
ON THE EARLY MORNING HOURS OF MONDAY, WE RECEIVED NOTICE THAT THEY HAD DISCUSSED WITH THE COURT AND GOT A HEARING ON FOR TODAY AT 8 .30.
SO, WITH VERY SHORT TIME FRAME TO RESPOND, WE RESPONDED BASED ON THE LAW. MY INTENT GENERALLY IS TO BE ABLE TO MEET WITH THE BOARD BEFORE THAT HAPPENS, BUT WHEN CASES MOVE TOO QUICKLY FOR THE BOARD TO RESPOND, THE CODE PROVIDES FOR ME TO MAKE SOME PRELIMINARY DECISIONS TO KEEP THE BOARD IN THE BEST LITIGATING POSITION UNTIL YOU CAN HEAR THE CASE, WHICH IS WHAT WE DID. SO, WE OPPOSE THE TEMPORARY RESTRAINING ORDER. THE COURT HEARD THE CASE TODAY, FOUND THAT, NUMBER ONE, THE STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS THAT ARE LAID OUT IN 17 .301, AND THE REQUIREMENTS THAT THE DOCUMENTS BE DESTROYED IF NO CRIMINAL MATTER OR ELECTION CONTEST IS CURRENTLY PENDING, BECAUSE OF THE TIMELINES FOR AN ELECTION CONTEST, WHICH ARE FAIRLY SHORT, WHICH ARE ABOUT 30 DAYS, THERE IS NO OPPORTUNITY FOR AN ELECTION CONTEST TO BE PENDING. SO, THAT MAKES THE STANDING FOR ANY PRIVATE INDIVIDUAL ESSENTIALLY MOOT.
ON THE CRIMINAL SIDE, AN INDIVIDUAL HAS NO PRIVATE RIGHT OF ACTION TO CLAIM THAT A CRIMINAL MATTER IS EITHER PENDING OR IS INTENDED TO BE PENDING AS CONTEMPLATED BY 17 .301. AND THE ADDITION
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TO THAT, UNDER 17 .301, IF YOU PASS THE 22 -MONTH PERIOD, NEITHER THE ELECTION CONTEST NOR A CRIMINAL MATTER HAS STANDING AT THAT POINT TO MAINTAIN THE DOCUMENTS. AND THAT WAS THE FINDING OF THE COURT. THAT'S THE ADVICE THAT I WOULD HAVE PROVIDED TO YOU IN CLOSE COUNSEL. THIS WILL LIKELY, IT APPEARS THAT IT WILL BE HEARD MORE ON THE MERITS ON THE 17TH, BUT I DON'T EXPECT THERE TO BE ANYTHING BUT A SHORT HEARING IF THERE IS A HEARING.UM, THE, UH, LEGAL PRINCIPLES, THE CASE LAW ARE DETERMINATIVE.
IS THIS INFORMATIONAL ONLY OR DID YOU NEED TO VOTE ON THIS? SO, I, I, MY INTENT WOULD HAVE BEEN TO ASK, UH, THE BOARD TO GIVE ME DIRECTION. UM, ESSENTIALLY THAT'S ALREADY HAPPENED. SO, UNLESS, UH, THE, THE BOARD, UM, HAS SOME OTHER DIRECTION, UH, THEN THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT.
WELL, YEAH, AND THAT, AND THAT'S WHY I WANTED IT OUT AT CLOSED SESSION, BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S OVER. SUPERVISOR LONG.
THANK YOU, CHAIR COUNSEL. UH, YOU AND I TALKED ABOUT THIS YESTERDAY, SO I WON'T GO BACK OVER ALL THE DETAILS OF WHAT OUR DISCUSSION WAS.
THE ONLY THING THAT WE DIDN'T COVER WAS THE RESULTS OF TODAY'S HEARING FOR THE RESTRAINING ORDER.
SO, I GUESS MY QUESTIONS WOULD BE GEARED TOWARD THAT, BECAUSE YOU'VE ANSWERED ALL MY OTHER QUESTIONS. SO, WHAT IS THE RAMIFICATION IF THE COUNTY WERE TO VIOLATE THE COURT ORDER, WHICH, UM, ARE THEY ORDERING THE DESTRUCTION, OR IS THAT JUST UNDER STATE LAW, AND THEY JUST DENIED THE TRO? STATE LAW REQUIRES IT. THE TRO WAS REQUESTING THAT THEY STEP IN FRONT OF THE, UM, REQUIREMENT THAT THEY BE DESTROYED. THE, THE COURT, UH, WAS NOT INCLINED TO DO THAT, WHICH MEANS STATE LAW IS CONTROLLING, AND EVERY DAY PAST THE 22 MONTHS THAT THOSE DOCUMENTS EXIST IS A VIOLATION OF LAW.
AND, UH, WE HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THAT IS, BECAUSE WE'RE ALREADY IN VIOLATION OF THE LAW AS OF LAST FRIDAY. SO, THE REGISTER OF VOTERS IS IN VIOLATION OF THE LAW.
CORRECT. WE, NO, BUT, BUT HE, HE IS PART OF THE COUNTY, AS I SEE IT, RIGHT? RIGHT.
SO, AN ELECTED OFFICER CAN ACTUALLY FACE, UH, THE CRIMINAL AND CIVIL ISSUES ON THEIR OWN, FOR THEIR OWN, UH, CONSTITUTIONAL DUTIES.
OH, OKAY. NOW, THAT DOESN'T PREVENT, UH, THE BOARD FROM BEING NAMED IN A LAWSUIT TO DEMAND THAT THEY BE DESTROYED. AND WHAT IS THE MECHANISM, IF THE BOARD WERE TO DECIDE, UH, AND IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE NOT MAKING A DECISION, BUT WHAT IS THE MECHANISM TO FORCE, I THINK, TO SUPERVISOR CRY'S COMMENTS EARLIER, WHAT IS THE MECHANISM WHERE THE COUNTY, THE BOARD, COULD FORCE THE DESTRUCTION IF, UH, THE ELECTED OFFICIAL, QUOTE, IS, UH, RESISTANT TO THAT EFFORT? THE BOARD COULD FILE AN ACTION THAT WOULD BE THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT MR. LIST HAS FILED. THE BOARD COULD FILE AN ACTION FOR, UM, A TEMPORARY RESTRAINING ORDER OR AN INJUNCTION ORDERING THE DESTRUCTION OF THE DOCUMENTS.
OKAY. THANK YOU. BUT, BUT, BUT, BUT TO ME, IT WOULD BE ALMOST LIKE ORDERING THE SHERIFF TO ARREST SOMEBODY. RIGHT.
DO WE KNOW THAT THEY HAVE NOT BEEN DESTROYED? THE, THE LAST I HAD BEEN INFORMED IS THAT THEY HAD NOT. I HAD, UM, A REQUEST FROM, UM, MR. CURTIS TO ADVISE HIM ON WHETHER HE HAD TO DESTROY THESE DOCUMENTS BASED ON THE DEMAND, UH, TO RETAIN AND THE FILING OF THE COURT MATTER. UM, I EXPLAINED TO HIM UNDER 17301 THAT NUMBER ONE, UH, A PRIVATE LETTER DEMANDING RETENTION OF THE DOCUMENTS IS NOT SUFFICIENT. NUMBER TWO, A FILING OF A COURT DOCUMENT IS NOT SUFFICIENT. UM, AN ORDER FROM A COURT, UM, TO MAINTAIN THESE DOCUMENTS CAN ONLY COME UNDER TWO CIRCUMSTANCES UNDER 17301. THE FIRST CIRCUMSTANCE IS THAT THERE IS AN ELECTION CHALLENGE THAT'S BEEN FILED.
AND BASED ON THAT CHALLENGE, THE COURT ORDERS THAT THEY STAY, OR THERE IS A CRIMINAL PROSECUTION UNDERWAY. AND THE COURT ORDERS THAT THERE IS NO INDEPENDENT AUTHORITY FOR A COURT OUTSIDE OF THOSE TWO CONTEXTS TO MAKE THAT RULING. HAVE WE RECEIVED ANY COMMUNICATION FROM THE STATE REGARDING NOT, UH, UH, DESTROYING THE BALLOTS AT THIS POINT, OR AT LEAST AS FAR AS WE'RE AWARE? SO, UH, THE STATE IS AWARE OF THAT. THE STATE IS, UH, HEAVILY INVOLVED, UH, IN WHAT'S GOING ON. THE SECRETARY OF STATE'S OFFICE IS HERE TODAY. UM, UH, AND THEY ARE IN COMMUNICATION WITH MY OFFICE ON A PRETTY, UH, FREQUENT BASIS BASED ON, UH, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE MOVING.
AND WHAT'S THE NATURE OF THE, UH, ADDITIONAL HEARING ON THE 17TH? WHAT WILL THAT DETERMINE VERSUS WHAT'S ALREADY BEEN DETERMINED? SO WHEN YOU
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TALK ABOUT AN EMERGENCY HEARING, UM, THAT'S VERY LIMITED AND THAT'S FOR THE COURT TO MAKE AN IMMEDIATE DECISION.UM, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE ABILITY TO ARGUE THE MERITS, UM, THEY, THEY TYPICALLY WILL SET A HEARING FOR THAT TO HAPPEN AT A LATER TIME. UM, THEY, THEY'RE, THEY'RE REALLY LOOKING AT TYPICALLY MOSTLY THE PLEADINGS AND MAKING A VERY SHORT, UM, ORDER UNTIL, SO THE, THE 17TH, IF THEY WERE TO PUT THE TRO IN PLACE AND THEN WE MOVE TO THE 17TH, THAT WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT LONGER HEARING TO DECIDE WHETHER IT'S GOING TO STAY IN PLACE. SO IT'S, IT'S, IT'S BASED ON IT BEING A VERY PRELIMINARY HEARING.
OKAY. I MEAN, I THINK JUST FOR BOARD DISCUSSION THAT IF THE, WE'RE, IF WE GET TO THE 29TH SEPTEMBER MEETING AND THE, ASSUMING THE 17TH COURT DECISION RULES IN A WAY THAT'S CONSISTENT WITH TODAY'S DECISION AND THE BALLOTS HAVEN'T BEEN DESTROYED, THAT WE SHOULD AGENDIZE THAT FOR A DISCUSSION ABOUT BOARD, THE ADDITIONAL BOARD OPTIONS AT THAT POINT. OKAY. AND SO TYPICALLY THAT WOULD BE AGENDIZED AS A POSSIBLE INITIATION OF LITIGATION ON A CLOSED SESSION. IF THAT'S NOT THE ROUTE THAT YOU WANT TO GO WITH THAT, YOU'LL NEED TO MAKE THAT CLEAR.
WE'RE, WE'RE IN DISCUSSION, RIGHT? SO WE'RE NOT REALLY IN QUEUE. I MEAN, I, I, I THINK IT'S, IT JUST GOES DOWN THE ROAD OF LIKE, IF WE JUST, YOU KNOW, TOLD THE SHERIFF OR ANY OTHER OFFICE HOLDER, THEY GOT TO DO THIS OR THEY GOT TO DO THAT. I MEAN, HE'S, HE'S GOING TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE OUTCOMES OF HIS OFFICE. THAT'S JUST ME.
LIKE, I MEAN, I, I, I GUESS AT THIS POINT, ALMOST, YOU KNOW, WRAPPING UP FOUR YEARS IS PEOPLE LIKE LOVE THE TALK OF A GAME, BUT WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO LIKE, PUT YOUR MONEY WHERE YOUR MOUTH IS, LIKE, THAT'S WHERE I AM.
AND IT'S LIKE, HEY, IF ANY OFFICE HOLDER FEELS REALLY STRONGLY ABOUT SOMETHING, ALL RIGHT, LIKE DIE ON THAT HILL AND GO FOR IT AND DON'T HIDE BEHIND IT. AND I'M NOT SAYING THIS ABOUT ONE PERSON VERSUS ANOTHER, BUT I'M JUST SAYING, I THINK WE JUST LET EVERY ELECTED OFFICIAL RUN THEIR OFFICES AND, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I KNOW I HEAR THAT. I THINK, YOU KNOW, IF WE KNOWINGLY BELIEVE, BELIEVE THAT HE'S VIOLATING STATE LAW, UM, YOU KNOW, NOT NOW, CAUSE I FEEL LIKE WE SHOULD LET THE COURT MAKE AN ULTIMATE DECISION AND SEE, GIVE HIM TIME TO RESPOND TO THAT. BUT IF WE IN TWO WEEKS KNOW THAT HE'S VIOLATING STATE LAW, I BELIEVE WE SHOULD AT LEAST DISCUSS, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE WILL DISCUSS IT IN TWO WEEKS IF HE DOES.
BUT RIGHT NOW, I THINK IT'S A ISSUE BETWEEN THE REGISTER OF VOTERS AND THE SECRETARY.
IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE WILLING TO MAKE A MOTION? YEAH, I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE, UH, WELL, THE WAY I WANT TO DO IT IS THAT IT'S, UH, THAT WE AGENDIZE FOR DISCUSSION, UM, THE POSSIBLE INITIATION OF LITIGATION. IF THE 17TH, THE COURT RULING ON THE 17TH RULES CONSISTENT WITH TODAY'S RULING AND, UH, TO OUR KNOWLEDGE, THE BALLOTS HAVE NOT BEEN DESTROYED.
WELL, LIKE I SAY, I MEAN, FIRST OF ALL, IT'S SPECULATION INTO THE FUTURE, BUT SECOND OF ALL, THIS IS, UH, BETWEEN THE, OUR REGISTER OF VOTERS AND THE SECRETARY OF STATE AND THE COURTS RIGHT NOW.
AND I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO STICK OUR NOSE IN THE MIDDLE OF IT AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED. I THINK IT'S GOING TO COME UP ANYWAY. I MEAN, THEY'LL HAVE, THEY'LL HAVE TO BRING IT UP. YEAH. AND I THINK THE, I THINK SIMILAR TO THE WAY WE ACTED ON MEASURE B WHERE WE WERE TRYING TO SAY, LOOK, THIS, THIS WAS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE WERE PUSHING. AND, AND AS A RESULT, YOU KNOW, THE STATE DIDN'T FIND US, YOU KNOW, AT FAULT FOR THAT. UM, I WOULD WANT TO AT LEAST CONSIDER TAKING ACTION THAT WOULD ENSURE THE STATE THAT LOOK, AS REPRESENTATIVES OF THE COUNTY OVERALL, WE'RE DOING WHAT WE CAN TO NOT BE AT FAULT FOR VIOLATING STATE LAW. IF YOU, BEFORE THAT NEXT MEETING, IF WE GET THERE AND THIS IS STILL NOT RESOLVED, AND I THINK IT WILL BE RESOLVED IN TWO WEEKS, BUT IF IT'S NOT, IF A STATE IS WELL AWARE OF OUR POSITION ON THIS, I'LL SET ALL MY MOTIONS. I'LL SECOND MATT'S, UH, SUPERVISOR PLUMMER'S MOTION. IS, IS THE, ARE THE, IS THERE A FEDERAL ARM HERE AS WELL? YES. UH, THE, THERE IS A, A FEDERAL SUBPOENA, UM, THAT, UH, WAS SERVED ON THE COUNTY AND THEY ARE CURRENTLY HERE. YEAH. OKAY. YEAH. I THINK THERE'S ENOUGH AGENCIES INVOLVED NOW. I DON'T NECESSARILY THINK WE NEED TO GET INVOLVED. SO WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY SUPERVISOR PLUMMER, A SECOND BY SUPERVISOR LONG. UM, WE'LL START WITH A ROLL CALL VOTE FROM A SUPERVISOR. AND I JUST WANT TO, I MEAN, I'M, I'M NOT, I, I DON'T DISAGREE WITH WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. I JUST THINK FOR ME WITH THE PRECEDENT OF ELECTED OFFICIALS AND WHAT THEY DO, LIKE THERE'S ALREADY A PROCESS FOR IT. COUNCIL'S GOING TO BRING IT BACK TO US. IF WE DO HAVE ANY ENTER INTO ANY LITIGATION, HE SAID THAT HE SAID HE WOULD BRING IT BACK TO CLOSED SESSION. I'LL PROBABLY ASK TO BRING IT BACK OUT, BUT I THINK WE'RE JUST ADDING LAYERS.
SO I'M NOT GOING TO SUPPORT IT, BUT I THINK IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. I MEAN, I THINK IF THEY'RE NOT DESTROYED, COUNCIL HAS TO BRING IT TO US AND THEN I'M GOING TO ASK TO BRING IT OUT OF CLOSED SESSION. ALL RIGHT.
ROLL CALL VOTE STARTING WITH SUPERVISOR PLUMMER, PLEASE. SUPERVISOR PLUMMER? YES. SUPERVISOR CRY? NO.
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SUPERVISOR KULSTROM? NOPE.SUPERVISOR HARMON? NO. AND SUPERVISOR LONG? YES. ALL RIGHT. UH, FAILS TWO TO THREE. ALL RIGHT.
WITH THAT, WE WILL GO INTO CLOSED SESSION. UH, I WOULD JUST, I WOULD JUST ASK THAT, UH, IT SOUNDS, SOUNDS LIKE YOU GUYS ARE UNDERSTANDING THAT WE'RE GOING TO A HEARING ON THE 17TH, THAT WE WOULD MAINTAIN THE SAME POSITION. SO I'M ASKING FOR THE BOARD'S DIRECTION ON THAT. YEAH. I MEAN, I, THAT'S IT THE WAY I FEEL. DO WE NEED A, DO WE NEED A MOTION ON THAT? ABOUT THE, OUR POSITION IS THAT, UH, THIS TRO SHOULD NOT BE GRANTED.
UH, IT'S NOT SUPPORTED BY THE LAW. AND THAT'S THE POSITION WE'VE TAKEN IN COURT. ARE YOU, ARE YOU REQUESTING THAT THE BOARD AUTHORIZE YOU TO DEFEND? NO.
RIGHT. AND THAT'S FOR A, THAT'S FOR THE, WHATEVER THAT GUY'S NAME WAS? THIS IS, THIS IS THE LIST MATTER.
THAT'S THE ONLY ONE WE'RE COVERING. CORRECT. SO, UM, LIKE, LIKE I SAID, WE, WE TOOK SOME ACTION, UM, BECAUSE WHEN THE BOARD, WHEN WE CAN'T BE, UH, HAVE AN AUDIENCE WITH THE BOARD IN AN APPROPRIATE TIME BEFORE SOMETHING GOES ON AN EMERGENCY HEARING, THEN WE'LL TAKE A, A POSITION THAT'S DEFENSIVE.
UM, AND THEN IF THE BOARD CHOOSES TO CONTINUE ON THAT PATH, THEN YOU DIRECT ME WITH THAT.
IF YOU WANT A DIFFERENT PATH, BUT WE, WE ESSENTIALLY, BEFORE THE, THE BOARD LOSES ITS RIGHT, WE TAKE SOME SORT OF ACTION THAT, THAT IS DEFENSIVE. WELL, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO AUTHORIZE YOU TO CONTINUE TO OPPOSE THE TRO. UH, AND I'LL SECOND. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE MADE BY SUPERVISOR PLUMMER, SECOND BY SUPERVISOR LONG. UM, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? PASSES 5 -0. ALL RIGHT. WITH THAT, WE'LL BE GOING TO CLOSED SESSION. UH, ESTIMATE TIME WAS 45 MINUTES, BUT SINCE WE JUST HEARD ONE OF THEM, I WILL SAY WE WON'T BE BACK, UH, WITHIN 20 MINUTES. SO LET'S SAY, UH, 1240. NICE. AND PLEASE
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CLEAR THE, OR THE ROOM WHILE WE ARE GONE.CLEAR THE COURTROOM. I ALMOST SAY CLEAR THE COURTROOM. IT FEELS LIKE A COURTROOM. JUDGE KELLEY.
ALL RIGHT. COMING BACK FROM CLOSED SESSION, UH, COUNCIL LARIMER, DO WE HAVE ANY REPORTABLE ACTION? MR. CHAIRMAN, ALL ITEMS WERE HEARD IN CLOSED SESSION THERE IS NO REPORTABLE ITEMS ON OUR 11 AND 12 AND THEN BASED ON A MOTION FROM THE BOARD THERE IS AN R10 YEAH SO R10 WE DID DISCUSSED AN EVALUATION OF COUNCIL LARMER HE EXCEEDED EXPECTATIONS IT WAS 5 -0 ACROSS THE BOARD SO HE EXCEEDED OUR EXPECTATIONS WE ALL THINK HE IS DOING A FANTASTIC JOB UM ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO CUE IN TO SPEAK ON THIS SUPERVISOR CRY OH YEAH NO I I I JUST THINK THAT UH I DIDN'T KNOW I WAS GONNA BE THE ONE SPEAKING BUT THAT'S FINE YEAH UH BY A 5 -0 VOTE IT WAS HIS EXPECTATIONS THE MOTION WAS MADE BY SUPERVISOR HARMAN TO BRING BACK A RENEWAL OF HIS FOUR -YEAR AGREEMENT WHICH IS WHAT WAS DONE LAST YEAR AS WELL SO THAT WILL COME BACK TO ANOTHER UH FUTURE BOARD MEETING SUPERVISOR LONG OR HARMAN WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADD ANYTHING NO I I'LL JUST SAY A LITTLE MORE MORE ABOUT WHAT I'VE SAID IN THERE BEING A BUSINESS OWNER AND AND FINDING GOOD ATTORNEYS IS IS NOT EASY AND UH BEST ATTORNEY I EVER HAD IS A JUDGE RIGHT NOW WHICH I ALWAYS SAY I WISH HE WOULDN'T HAVE WENT TO THE JUDGESHIP HE WOULD HAVE STAYED ATTORNEY BUT WAS IT BURGESS YEAH JODY YEAH HE'S GOOD BUT THAT UH AND AND I'LL I'LL SAY IT AGAIN HERE IS UH YOU KNOW WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO START LOOKING AND WE KNOW WHAT KIND OF AND PLEASE BRING UH THAT REPORT FROM MONICA BECAUSE THAT WAS IMPACTIVE ABOUT THE THE IMPROVEMENTS WE'VE MADE THAT NEEDS TO THAT THE PEOPLE NEED TO KNOW THAT AND THANKS JOE UH FOR DOING A GOOD JOB AND THE PART THAT WE'RE GOING TO BRING BACK AT A FUTURE UM MOTION AT A FUTURE TIME WILL INVOLVE UH POSSIBLY THE NEW BOARD AND TRYING TO FIGURE SOME OF THAT OUT SO ANYWAY THANK YOU THANK YOU JOE AND WITH THAT THAT CONCLUDES THE MEETING
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