ALL RIGHT, BIG DOG. ALL RIGHT. [CALL TO ORDER] [00:00:02] GOOD MORNING. WELCOME TO THE SPECIAL MEETING OF THE SHASTA COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS. IT'S TUESDAY, APRIL 28TH AND THE TIME IS 9 A.M.. ALL BOARD MEMBERS ARE WITH US TODAY, INCLUDING CEO DAVE RICKERT, COUNTY COUNCIL JOE LARMER. AND FROM THE CLERK OF THE BOARD, STEPHANIE BLANKENSHIP, KRISTEN SMITH. AND IN THE FOYER, LISA TIERNEY. WE ENCOURAGE THOSE WISHING TO PARTICIPATE IN PUBLIC COMMENT, FILL OUT A SPEAKER REQUEST CARD AND SUBMIT IT TO THE CLERK IN THE FOYER. SPEAKER REQUEST CARDS MUST BE SUBMITTED TO THE CLERK BEFORE PUBLIC COMMENT FOR EACH REGULAR ITEM BEGINS. AS A FRIENDLY REMINDER, COMMENTS ARE LIMITED TO ONLY THE ITEMS LISTED ON TODAY'S AGENDA. WITH THAT, I'LL TURN THINGS OVER TO MISS BLANKENSHIP. THANK YOU. THROUGH THE CHAIR, I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND EVERYONE IN ATTENDANCE TODAY OF OUR BOARDROOM RULES OF ORDER AS OUTLINED IN ADMINISTRATIVE POLICY ONE DASH 101. THOSE CAN BE FOUND ONLINE THROUGH THE CLERK OF THE BOARD'S WEBSITE. THIS POLICY INCLUDES SIGNAGE RESTRICTIONS, ATTENDEE SEATING AND OVERALL CONDUCT TO ENSURE BUSINESS IS DONE IN AN ORDERLY FASHION AND THAT ALL HAVE AN EQUAL OPPORTUNITY TO OBSERVE AND PARTICIPATE UNLESS ADDRESSING THE BOARD. ALL THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE SHALL REMAIN SEATED IN THE CHAIRS PROVIDED. STANDING ALONG THE BACK WALL OF THE BOARDROOM IS ACCEPTABLE, SO LONG AS NO PERSON BLOCKS THE EGRESS OR INGRESS. MEMBERS OF THE MEDIA WANT TO WANT TO OBSERVE, RECORD OR OTHERWISE DOCUMENT. A BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEETING ARE REQUESTED TO SET UP EQUIPMENT FROM THE DESIGNATED AREA ALONG THE SOUTH WINDOWS. SHASTA COUNTY REMAINS COMMITTED TO CONDUCTING BUSINESS IN A PROFESSIONAL AND ACCESSIBLE ENVIRONMENT, AND WE KINDLY ASK THAT ALL ATTENDEES ADHERE TO THESE RULES. WITH THAT CHAIR, I'LL TURN THINGS BACK OVER TO YOU. THANK YOU, MISS BLANKENSHIP. AND TODAY, SUPERVISOR CRYE WILL LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. SO IF EVERYBODY COULD PLEASE STAND AND. JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. THANK YOU. SUPERVISOR CRYE. WITH THAT, WE WILL MOVE ON TO OUR REGULAR CALENDAR HOUR ONE DISCUSS THE CONDUCT OF THE [R1 Discuss the conduct of the Clerk and Registrar of Voters, Clint Curtis and consider adopting a resolution of censure against Clint Curtis for substantiated findings of managerial misconduct following an investigation.] CLERK OF REGISTERED VOTERS, CLINT CURTIS, AND CONSIDER ADOPTING A RESOLUTION OF CENSURE AGAINST CLINT CURTIS FOR SUBSTANTIATED FINDINGS OF MANAGERIAL MISCONDUCT FOLLOWING AN INVESTIGATION. MISS FUGITT. GOOD MORNING CHAIR. KELSTROM. MEMBERS OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS. MONICA FUGITT, DIRECTOR OF SUPPORT SERVICES. ON APRIL 3RD, SUPPORT SERVICES RECEIVED A VERBAL REPORT OF AN INCIDENT INVOLVING CURTIS AND A SUBORDINATE EMPLOYEE. ON APRIL 7TH, THE AUDITOR COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE RECEIVED AN ADDITIONAL SEPARATE REPORT THROUGH THE WHISTLEBLOWER HOTLINE REGARDING THE SAME INCIDENT, WHICH WAS FORWARDED TO SUPPORT SERVICES TO CONDUCT AN INVESTIGATION. I WAS THE PRINCIPAL INVESTIGATOR IN THIS MATTER IN DETERMINING WHETHER TO USE AN INTERNAL OR EXTERNAL INVESTIGATOR. IT WAS CONSIDERED THAT A RECENT EXTERNAL INVESTIGATION HAD BEEN CONDUCTED AROUND SIMILAR ALLEGATIONS OF MISCONDUCT. FURTHER, AS THE ALLEGATIONS INVOLVED ABUSIVE CONDUCT AGAINST STAFF, IT WAS DETERMINED THE MATTER SHOULD BE INVESTIGATED QUICKLY. IN WEIGHING THE EVIDENCE AND MAKING FINDINGS, I USED A STANDARD KNOWN AS THE PREPONDERANCE OF THE EVIDENCE STANDARD TO DETERMINE IF. IT IS MORE LIKELY THAN NOT THAT THE CONDUCT IN QUESTION OCCURRED. PREPONDERANCE OF THE EVIDENCE MEANS THE EVIDENCE ON ONE SIDE OUTWEIGHS THE EVIDENCE ON THE OTHER SIDE. UPON REVIEW OF ALL WITNESS STATEMENTS AND EVIDENCE GATHERED THROUGH THE INVESTIGATION, I MADE FINDINGS THAT, BASED UPON THE PREPONDERANCE OF THE EVIDENCE. CURTIS DID ENGAGE IN ABUSIVE CONDUCT IN RETALIATION TOWARDS STAFF IN VIOLATION OF CHAPTER 22 OF THE PERSONNEL RULES POLICY AGAINST DISCRIMINATION, HARASSMENT, ABUSIVE CONDUCT AND RETALIATION, AND CHAPTER 40 OF THE PERSONNEL RULES, CODE OF CONDUCT AND COMMITMENT TO PUBLIC SERVICE. CHAPTER 22 OF THE PERSONNEL RULES PROVIDES THAT UPON FINDING AN ELECTED OFFICIAL HAS ENGAGED IN UNLAWFUL HARASSMENT, DISCRIMINATION, ABUSIVE CONDUCT OR RETALIATION AGAINST A COUNTY EMPLOYEE, APPLICANT FOR EMPLOYMENT, INTERN, VOLUNTEER, INDEPENDENT CONTRACTOR, OR A COUNTY CLIENT OR CUSTOMER. ANY FINDINGS WILL BE BROUGHT BEFORE THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS FOR CONSIDERATION OF REMEDIAL ACTION. BASED UPON THE FINDINGS, IT HAS RECOMMENDED THE BOARD CONSIDER REMEDIAL ACTION FOR CURTIS AS REMEDIAL. ONE ON ONE SUPERVISORY TRAINING HAS VERY RECENTLY BEEN COMPLETED BY CURTIS ON APRIL 8TH, FOLLOWING A PRIOR INVESTIGATION, THE ONLY OTHER AVAILABLE OPTION FOR REMEDIAL ACTION THE BOARD HAS TO CONSIDER IS PUBLIC CENSURE. CONDEMNING HIS ACTIONS. GIVEN THE PERVASIVE ABUSIVE CONDUCT CURTIS HAS EXHIBITED TOWARDS STAFF, IT IS RECOMMENDED THAT THE BOARD REQUEST CURTIS SEPARATE HIMSELF FROM STAFF WORKING AT A DIFFERENT PHYSICAL LOCATION OR REMOTELY DURING THE WEEKS LEADING UP TO AND FOLLOWING THE ELECTIONS, WHEN CURTIS IS REQUIRED TO BE PRESENT, PRESENT TO MONITOR ELECTIONS PROCESSING, IT IS FURTHER RECOMMENDED THE BOARD REQUEST A STAFF MEMBER PERSONNEL OR THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICE BE PHYSICALLY PRESENT TO FACILITATE COMMUNICATIONS WITH STAFF. SHOULD MR. CURTIS BEHAVIORS CONTINUE, IT MAY BE NECESSARY FOR THE COUNTY TO PURSUE A WORKPLACE RESTRAINING ORDER TO PROTECT EMPLOYEES FROM CONTINUED HARASSMENT. AT THIS TIME, I'M HAPPY TO TAKE QUESTIONS OR DIRECTION FROM THE BOARD. SUPERVISOR LONG. THANK YOU, CHAIR, AND THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS [00:05:04] FORWARD. I UNDERSTAND, AND I'VE GOT TO BE VERY CAREFUL HERE BECAUSE I DO NOT WANT TO. IDENTIFY ANY INVOLVED EMPLOYEE BY NAME, AND I DON'T WANT IT TO THEM TO BE IDENTIFIED BY CIRCUMSTANCE. SO I'VE GOT TO BE REALLY CAREFUL IN MY QUESTIONS FOR YOU. BUT AS I UNDERSTAND IT, THERE WERE TWO TWO DIFFERENT INVESTIGATIONS. ONE IS THE OPPENHEIM INVESTIGATION. OPPENHEIMER. OPPENHEIMER. OPPENHEIMER. OPPENHEIMER. INVESTIGATION. AND THEN ONE WAS THE INTERNAL INVESTIGATION CONDUCTED BY YOU. FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, THE INTERNAL INVESTIGATION IS SUBJECT TO PRA REQUEST AND THE EXTERNAL INVESTIGATION IS HAS AN ATTORNEY CLIENT PRIVILEGE ATTACHED TO IT. SO I WOULD MAKE A MOTION AT THIS POINT, THIS JUNCTURE, THAT OUR BOARD CONSIDER WAIVING THE ATTORNEY CLIENT PRIVILEGE SO THAT WE CAN FULLY VET THIS OUT AND AIR EVERYTHING. AND SO THAT THAT IS MY MOTION. CORRECT. RIGHT NOW. I'M GOING TO WAIT UNTIL WE TALK TO ROV. CURTIS. I JUST I HAVE A QUESTION FOR HIM. HE'S GOING TO DO A REBUTTAL. OKAY. SO, SO I WILL NOT BE ABLE TO ASK YOU QUESTIONS OTHER THAN YOUR INVESTIGATION AT THIS TIME. SO YOU ALREADY SPOKE TO THIS AT SOME POINT, BUT DID THE INVESTIGATION REVEAL YOUR INVESTIGATION? BECAUSE WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT THE OPEN INVESTIGATION AT THIS POINT. DID YOUR INVESTIGATION REVEAL MR. CURTIS THREATENED THE LIFE OF ANY EMPLOYEES? SO I WHAT I WOULD SAY IS THAT THE INVESTIGATION FOUND THAT HE MADE STATEMENTS THAT HE WOULD SLAP OR PUNCH OTHER COUNTY EMPLOYEES WHEN FRUSTRATED, SLAP OR PUNCH. AND WAS THAT A THROAT PUNCH? CORRECT. OKAY. DID THE THREAT OF WERE THERE THREATENED THREATS OF PHYSICAL VIOLENCE TOWARD ANY OF THE EMPLOYEES IN YOUR INVESTIGATION? SO THE INVESTIGATION FOUND THAT THERE WAS A THREAT TO HAVE AN EMPLOYEE PULLED OUT OF THEIR OFFICE BY THEIR HAIR, BY HR. OKAY. DID DID MR. CURTIS, IN YOUR INVESTIGATION, ENGAGE IN ANY SEXUALLY INAPPROPRIATE BEHAVIOR. WERE THERE ANY COMMENTS TO THAT EFFECT? SO I, I WANT TO BE CAREFUL NOT TO GET INTO THE VERY SPECIFIC MINUTE DETAILS IN THE REPORT. IF AT THE END OF THE DAY THAT REPORT IS RELEASED, THEN THE SPECIFIC STATEMENTS WOULD BE RELEASED AS WELL. OKAY. I THOUGHT YOUR, THE, THE SUBJECT, THE THE SCOPE OF THE INVESTIGATION WAS WHETHER OR NOT HE THREATENED TO HAVE AN EMPLOYEE PULLED OUT OF THEIR OFFICE BY THEIR HAIR, WHETHER HE RETALIATED AGAINST AN EMPLOYEE, WHETHER HE MADE STATEMENTS HE WAS GOING TO SLAP OR PUNCH OTHER COUNTY EMPLOYEES, AND WHETHER HE IS ENGAGED IN ABUSIVE CONDUCT TOWARDS STAFF. SUPERVISOR SUPERVISOR LONG CAN WE GET A CLINT CURTIS TO START HIS REBUTTAL? WOULD THAT BE. JUST JUST LET ME LET ME COVER A COUPLE MORE THINGS. DID DID MR. CURTIS PUBLICLY HUMILIATE ANY OF THE WOMEN FEMALE EMPLOYEES? SO I THINK WE'RE GETTING INTO THE SCOPE OF THE OTHER INVESTIGATION, WHICH IS SUBJECT TO ATTORNEY CLIENT PRIVILEGE. OKAY. YEAH, IT'S HARD TO HARD TO SEPARATE. OKAY. THAT'S. THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. ROV CURTIS, WOULD YOU LIKE A REBUTTAL? AND AS YOU COME UP HERE, YOU ACTUALLY REQUESTED THE ATTORNEY CLIENT PRIVILEGE TO BE DROPPED ON THIS SO YOU COULD GET A COPY OF THAT REPORT. ABSOLUTELY. AND YOU STILL OUT THERE BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO RESULT IN A DEFAMATION SUIT. SO IT HAS TO BE OUT THERE EVENTUALLY ANYWAY. OKAY. SO YOU ARE ON BOARD WITH US DROPPING THE ATTORNEY CLIENT PRIVILEGE. ABSOLUTELY. IN FACT, AT ONE POINT YOU THOUGHT THE ATTORNEY CLIENT PRIVILEGE WAS BETWEEN YOURSELF AND COUNTY COUNSEL LARMER, AND YOU FOUND OUT THE ATTORNEY CLIENT PRIVILEGE WAS BETWEEN THIS BOARD AND COUNTY COUNSEL LARMER IS THAT CORRECT? WELL, HE WAS HE CAME AND TALKED TO ME ABOUT ANYTHING THAT WE TALKED ABOUT, THAT ATTORNEY CLIENT PRIVILEGE. WELL, THAT BELONGS TO ME, NOT TO THE ATTORNEY. NEVER DOES. I CAN'T. WELL, IT BELONGS TO THE BOARD. IT BELONGS TO THE BOARD. WELL, I CONTACTED THE BAR AND THEY SAID, MY QUESTION IS, DO YOU WANT US TO DROP THAT ATTORNEY CLIENT PRIVILEGE? YES, ABSOLUTELY. THEN I WILL SECOND SUPERVISOR LONG'S MOTION TO DROP THE ATTORNEY CLIENT PRIVILEGE FOR THESE REPORTS. [00:10:05] THANK YOU SIR. WE'RE SPEAKING ABOUT THE OPPENHEIMER THE INDEPENDENT. THAT'S THE ONE THAT'S PROTECTED BY ATTORNEY CLIENT PRIVILEGE. SO I SECOND YOUR MOTION. SHALL WE TAKE A VOTE NOW? YEAH. I'D LIKE TO ASK COUNTY COUNCIL A QUESTION. COUNTY COUNSEL, COULD YOU SHARE WITH US THE IMPLICATIONS OF DROPPING THE ATTORNEY CLIENT PRIVILEGE IN THIS PARTICULAR SCENARIO? WELL, SO THE ATTORNEY CLIENT PRIVILEGE ON AN INVESTIGATION LIKE THIS PROVIDES THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE BOARD AND THE ATTORNEYS REPRESENTING THE BOARD TO REVIEW IT. TO THE EXTENT THAT THAT REPORT IS USED IN COURT, THE ATTORNEY CLIENT PRIVILEGE HAS TO BE WAIVED TO THE EXTENT THAT THE BOARD CHOOSES NOT TO USE A REPORT, THEN THE ATTORNEY CLIENT PRIVILEGE WOULD PREVENT THE DISCLOSURE OF THAT IN A LAWSUIT. YOU GOOD? SUPERVISOR PLUMMER. LET'S GO AHEAD AND TAKE A VOTE. CAN I CAN I TAKE ONE LAST COMMENT? AND BASED ON THE SCRIPT'S CASE THAT THE COUNTY WENT THROUGH PRIOR UNRELATED MATTER COMPLETELY, WOULD IT BE YOUR OPINION THAT YOU WOULD RELEASE THE INFORMATION ANYWAY BASED ON THAT COURT DECISION? SO I WOULD NOT RELEASE IT. THE BOARD. THE BOARD COULD MAKE THAT DECISION. I THINK THE CASE FACTS ARE VERY SIMILAR TO THAT OF THE SCRIPPS CASE, BEING THAT IT'S AN ELECTED OFFICIAL, AND I WOULD ADVISE THAT IT WOULD LIKELY BE THE SAME RESULT IN A COURT HEARING. OKAY. MISS BLANKENSHIP, LET'S TAKE A ROLL CALL VOTE, STARTING WITH SUPERVISOR LONG THAT MADE THE MOTION SUPERVISOR LONG? YES. SUPERVISOR. HARMON. YES. SUPERVISOR. KELSTROM. YES. SUPERVISOR. CRYE. YES. AND. SUPERVISOR. PLUMMER. YES. ALL RIGHT. PASSES FIVE ZERO. ATTORNEY. CLIENT PRIVILEGE WILL BE LIFTED OFF THOSE REPORTS, AND YOU'LL BE ABLE TO GET A COPY OF THEM. NOW, YOUR REBUTTAL, SIR. THANK YOU. BASICALLY, I WANT TO SAY THAT BOTH OF THESE CLAIMS ARE ABSOLUTELY FALSE. JUST MADE UP WITH ABSOLUTELY NO BASIS AT ALL. THE OLD STAFF, THERE HAS BEEN CONSTANT CONTACT WITH FRANCESCA. SHE EVEN MANAGED TO GET INTO MY THESE ARE FOR YOU IF YOU WANT THEM INTO MY INTERNAL. INTO MY INTERNAL MESSAGING SERVICE DEPARTMENT ONLY. SHOULD NEVER HAVE GOTTEN IN IN OCTOBER OF SEVEN. OCTOBER 17TH, 2025. SOMEONE POPPED UP. UNKNOWN USER. ANOTHER PERSON POPPED UP. UNKNOWN USER THERE ARE NO UNKNOWN USERS. THEY USUALLY HAVE TO BE NAMED PEOPLE LATER ON, THE BLUE PERSON. SEE LITTLE BLUE DOT. DO YOU WANT THESE? NO. OKAY. THE LITTLE BLUE DOT THERE. WE DON'T KNOW WHO THAT IS. THAT DROPPED OFF IMMEDIATELY. THAT WAS THERE LIKE 2 OR 3 DAYS AND THEN DROPPED OFF. BUT SHE CAME ON WITH HER NAME NEXT TO IT. AND THE PICTURES ARE IDENTICAL, SO SHE'S HACKED IN. I SENT THE STAFF TO A CO MEETING AND TO GO AND TO LEARN MORE ABOUT WHAT THE PROCESSES ARE. AND SO THEY GOT ALL GOT TOGETHER DOWN THERE AGAIN. SO THEY ARE KIND OF DESPERATE BECAUSE THEY'RE IN A 70/30 POLITICAL DIVISION. 70 REPUBLICAN, 30 LIBERAL. RIGHT. AND SO THEY'RE GETTING KIND OF DESPERATE BECAUSE THEY'RE LOSING. BUT SO THEY KEEP PUSHING THIS OUT. THIS IS JUST COMPLETELY FAKE. THERE'S NOTHING IN THERE. I TOOK A POLYGRAPH AND IT WASN'T ACCEPTED. YEAH. SOME PEOPLE DON'T BELIEVE POLYGRAPHS UNLESS IT GOES INTO WHAT THEY ALREADY WANT TO BELIEVE. IT'S PEOPLE WHO DO NOT ACCEPT FACTS, THEY JUST ACCEPT WHAT THEY WANT. THAT DOESN'T MATTER. SO I CAN HAND THAT OUT. WE DON'T KNOW WHO THE WOMAN IN BLUE IS. IF WE FIND OUT WHO THE WOMAN IN BLUE IS. AND THAT SHOULD BE IN THE SYSTEM, BECAUSE THAT PICTURE POPPED UP CONNECTED TO SOMEONE IN A SYSTEM. OTHERWISE, IT'S GOING TO COME IN AS JUST AN INITIAL OR SOMETHING. SO WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO FIND OUT WHO THAT IS. THE LEFTIES REALLY WANT TO TAKE THIS SEAT BACK. THEY WANT TO CONTROL YOUR ELECTIONS AGAIN LIKE THEY DID BEFORE. AND THEY'RE WILLING TO DO ANYTHING, INCLUDING LIE. NOW MOST PEOPLE JUST ACCEPT IT AND TAKE THE LITTLE COURSE AND LET IT GO. BUT I CAN'T DO THAT. THERE'S NOT A CHANCE I CAN DO THAT. I HAVE WORKED FOR DOMESTIC VIOLENCE ORGANIZATION NON-PROFITS FOR 20 YEARS. THIS IS ACTUALLY SERIOUS STUFF. AND WHEN YOU HAVE THESE FAKE ONES COME OUT HERE, THEY THREATEN THE LIVES OF THE PEOPLE WHERE IT'S REAL. WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO HAVE DIED BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THEY WEREN'T NECESSARILY BELIEVED BECAUSE OF ALL THE FAKE STUFF THAT COMES OUT, I'M SURE YOU GUYS PROBABLY HAVE HAD IT SENT AT YOU BEFORE, ONCE OR TWICE, YOU KNOW? AND THE OCTOBER SURPRISE MAY COME FOR YOU SHORTLY. WHEN I FIRST TOOK THIS, WHEN I FIRST APPLIED FOR THIS JOB BACK IN, I DON'T KNOW, THE FIRST TIME I DIDN'T GET IT, I LOST, BUT I WAS TALKING WITH ONE OF THE I THOUGHT IT WAS DEMOCRATS, BUT I DON'T THINK I THINK LEFTIES, I'LL CALL THEM LEFTIES. AND I SAID, WHY DO YOU CARE WHETHER I GET IT OR SHE GETS IT? AS LONG AS IT'S A FAIR ELECTION, YOU CAN SEE EVERYTHING. AND I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU EVERYTHING SO YOU CAN SEE EVERYTHING. NO. IT'S FAIR. AND THE [00:15:03] GUY LOOKED AT ME AND SAID, IF WE DON'T HAVE FRANZ IN THERE, WE WILL NEVER WIN ANOTHER ELECTION. I'M THINKING, SO YOU'RE TELLING ME YOU THINK YOU'RE CHEATING? HE'S CHEATING FOR YOU? HE NODDED HIS HEAD AND WALKED OFF. SO THAT IS WHERE THEY ARE. POLYGRAPH. IF SOMEBODY WANTS THEM, THEY'RE IN THE BACK. YOU CAN GRAB THEM SO THEY CAN SEE IT. IT BASICALLY ASKS THE QUESTION, DID ANYTHING IN THAT LITTLE MEMO I GOT WHICH BASICALLY SAID, DID YOU CAMPAIGN ON COMPANY TIME. DO YOU DO THIS? YOU KNOW ALL THE LITTLE THINGS IN THERE. COMPLETELY FALSE. I ANSWERED IT. THAT'S THE WAY IT CAME BACK. LET'S SEE WHAT ELSE. THE MAIN FUNCTION IN HAVING TO FILE SUIT. I WILL HAVE TO FILE SUIT. DEFAMATION CHARGES AGAINST THESE PEOPLE IS BECAUSE THAT WILL CLEAR THE RECORD. THAT WILL PUT INTEGRITY BACK INTO THE WHOLE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE PROCESS, WHERE ONLY REAL CASES GO FORWARD AND THE OTHERS ARE JUST DIMINISHED AND PUSHED BACK. THAT WILL STORE NOT ONLY INTEGRITY IN THAT IT WILL JUST LIKE INTEGRITY IN SHASTA COUNTY ELECTIONS, THEY CAN SEE EVERYTHING I'M ALWAYS ABOUT SHOW EVERYTHING, ANY FALSE STATEMENT THEY WANT TO MAKE FANTASTIC. YOU KNOW, THEY WANT TO PUT OUT A POSTER WITH A GUN AT MY HEAD. BEAUTIFUL. YOU KNOW THIS I'M REALLY IRRITATED ABOUT. I DIDN'T MIND WHEN THEY CARVED DEATH THREATS ON THE CAR HOOD. YOU KNOW, I MAY DO, BUT I WASN'T REALLY EXCITED. I DIDN'T MIND WHEN THEY PUT GLUE ON MY WINDOW. I DIDN'T MIND WHEN THEY PUT ANTIFA STICKERS ON ME. BUT THIS IS MORE IMPORTANT. THIS CAN ACTUALLY GET PEOPLE KILLED BECAUSE YOU HAVE THESE FAKE THINGS OUT HERE THAT HAVE NO BASIS AT ALL. IN FACT, HAVE THEM TAKE A POLYGRAPH. THEY WON'T PASS IT. THE PEOPLE ON MY OLD PEOPLE THERE, THEY KIND OF WORKED A LITTLE BIT LAST CYCLE ENOUGH TO GET THROUGH THE ELECTION, BUT IT WAS LIKE PUSHING A ROCK UP A HILL. I MEAN, IT WAS TOUGH BECAUSE THEY WERE SLOWING THINGS DOWN. THEY WERE LIKE NOT REALLY COOPERATING REAL GOOD. NOW THEY'RE IN A FULL WE'RE NOT GOING TO COOPERATE MODE, SLOWING EVERYTHING DOWN, REFUSING TO TRAIN THE NEW PEOPLE. I CONTACTED THE SECRETARY OF STATE ON THIS PROBABLY TWO MONTHS AGO, MAYBE THREE MONTHS AGO, SO THAT IF THINGS STARTED COMING IN LATE TO TELL ME IMMEDIATELY BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE FILING THEM PROPERLY, AND I'VE HEARD WE'RE ALREADY MISFILED A FEW THINGS AND I HAD TO CATCH UP AT THE END. SO IT MAKES IT REAL HARD TO HAVE A GOOD ELECTION. THE DIFFERENCE IS THIS IS A FEDERAL ELECTION. THIS IS A FEDERAL CRIME. TO GET IN THERE AND TO TRY AND TINKER WITH THE ELECTIONS, TO SLOW THINGS DOWN, TO MAKE THEM FAIL. SO I'VE TALKED TO THE DOJ. I HAVE ANOTHER CONFERENCE WITH THEM TOMORROW. SO IT HAS A COMPLETELY HOSTILE WORK ENVIRONMENT. I ACTUALLY MOVED OVER TO TO MARKET. SO I DIDN'T HAVE TO PUT UP WITH IT. AND ALL THE OTHER PEOPLE THAT WERE HAVING TO DEAL WITH THESE PEOPLE, THEY MOVED OVER THERE TOO. THEY SAID, CAN I PLEASE COME OVER? THEY'RE NOT HELPING ME. THEY'RE CLOSE THEIR DOORS AND THEY WALK LIKE THEY'RE MAD AT ME ALL THE TIME, YOU KNOW? AND IF YOU ASK THEM A QUESTION, THEY YELL AT YOU. YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST HORRIBLE. IT'S THE WORST I'VE EVER SEEN. AND THERE'S REALLY NOTHING THE COUNTY CAN DO EXCEPT JUST KEEP WRITING PEOPLE UP. BUT I HAVE AN ELECTION TO DO. I CAN'T WRITE PEOPLE UP 50 TIMES FOR NO AVAIL. I HAVE TO GET THE ELECTION DONE. THE WHOLE SENSOR VOTE. THEY'VE ALREADY GOT OUT WHAT THEY WANTED TO GET OUT. THIS WAS THEIR OCTOBER SURPRISE THIS. THEY COULD PUT OUT A BAD NARRATIVE. THAT NARRATIVE IS GOING TO BLOW UP IN THEIR FACE. AND THAT'S SIMPLY THE WAY IT IS, YOU KNOW. IS THIS TRUE? NO. YOU CAN TALK TO ANYBODY WHO KNOWS ME. FIRST OF ALL, I DON'T YELL. I DON'T ATTACK ANYBODY, YOU KNOW. AND WITH THESE PEOPLE, I DON'T EVEN TALK TO THEM OTHER THAN QUICK BUSINESS, YOU KNOW? HAVE YOU GOT THAT FILE? IS THAT DONE? YOU KNOW SO I'VE KIND OF HAD TO REMOVE THEM FROM THINGS THAT THEY KEPT FAILING ON. DIDN'T WRITE THEM UP, JUST TOOK IT AWAY AND DID IT MYSELF. BECAUSE I'VE GOT ELECTIONS TO RUN. I DON'T HAVE TIME TO PIDDLE WITH THEM. THERE IS A WAY THAT YOU COULD HELP ME. HOWEVER, THERE IS A PERSONNEL RULE 14.314.3 ALLOWS YOU TO TAKE PERSONNEL THAT ARE HARMING THE DEPARTMENT AND PUT THEM IN ANOTHER DEPARTMENT. THAT WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED, BECAUSE THEN I DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE BACKGROUND. NOW YOU HAVE OTHER PEOPLE COMING UP HERE AT WORK, THE NEW PEOPLE, AND THEY'RE GOING TO TELL YOU THE HORRIBLE WAY THEY'VE BEEN TREATED AND THE FACT THAT THEY AREN'T EVEN TRAINED FOR ANYTHING. I WAS I'VE ASKED FOR WEEKS TO GET PEOPLE TRAINED. JUST IGNORE IT. I ACTUALLY STOOD THERE WITH HIM AND HAD HIM TRAIN HIM ON ONE THING. THEY WENT OUT. THEY DID IT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TWO WEEKS BEHIND ON IT. AND AND THEN THE GUY WHO TRAINED THEM ACTUALLY WROTE A LETTER TO THE SECRETARY OF STATE SAYING THAT, WELL, THESE PEOPLE WEREN'T TRAINED PROPERLY. WE TRAINED THEM FIVE MINUTES AGO, YOU KNOW, SO IT IS INSANE. I'VE NEVER SEEN ANYTHING LIKE THIS. OF COURSE, I'VE NEVER SEEN THE LEFTIES BE THIS CRAZY IN ANY OTHER AREA I'VE BEEN. [00:20:02] BUT THEY ARE. IF YOU CAN DO THAT, IT WILL RELIEVE THE HOSTILE WORK ENVIRONMENT. I'M STILL GOING TO KEEP THEM UNDER CAMERA BECAUSE THAT'S THE REASON WE WENT TO MARKET BECAUSE THERE'S A CAMERA. GO AHEAD AND MAKE SOMETHING UP NOW. RIGHT. 24 HOURS CAMERAS EVERYWHERE. UNLESS WE GET THAT OVER AT COURT, I'M NOT GOING BACK TO COURT BECAUSE THEY'LL MAKE UP ANYTHING THEY WANT TO MAKE UP. SO THAT'S MY REBUTTAL, AND THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE YOU TO PURSUE AS FAR AS ASSISTING IN GETTING THIS ELECTION DONE. IF YOU CAN'T AND YOU MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO, I WILL PUSH FOR THE DOJ TO INTERCEDE. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, ROV. THANK YOU SIR. ALL RIGHT. LET'S HAVE A LITTLE DECORUM. LET'S QUIT YELLING OUT. DO WE HAVE ANY BOARD DISCUSSION? SUPERVISOR. MONICA, LET'S DO PUBLIC COMMENT. OKAY, SO IN LIGHT OF THE FACT THAT THE OPPENHEIMER INVESTIGATION HAS NOW BEEN OPENED UP, RIGHT. CAN YOU ANSWER THE ORIGINAL QUESTION ABOUT WERE THERE ANY THREATS OF VIOLENCE TOWARD ANY EMPLOYEES? SO I DO NOT HAVE THAT COMMITTED TO MEMORY, BUT I CAN READ YOU A SUMMARY OF THE FINDINGS. OKAY. COUNTY COUNCIL, HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE TO. OBVIOUSLY, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO REDACT THIS REPORT. HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE TO REDACT IT AND GET IT OUT? THERE ARE TWO REPORTS, I BELIEVE WITH EXHIBITS PROBABLY GETTING CLOSE TO 1000 PAGES, IT WILL TAKE SOME TIME TO GO THROUGH AND DO THE. CAN YOU GET IT DONE BY NEXT WEEK, THE END OF NEXT WEEK? I CAN DEFINITELY TRY. ALL RIGHT. I APPRECIATE THAT. ALL RIGHT. SUPERVISOR AS LONG AS YOU GET TO PUBLIC COMMENT. WELL, YEAH. YEAH. IF WE CAN JUST GET THIS ONE QUESTION ANSWERED YOUR SUMMARY REAL QUICK. SURE. SO THE PRIOR INVESTIGATION, THE FOLLOWING ALLEGATIONS WERE SUSTAINED. A PREPONDERANCE OF THE EVIDENCE SUPPORTED A FINDING THAT CURTIS ENGAGED IN CAMPAIGN RELATED CALLS DURING COUNTY WORK HOURS. A PREPONDERANCE OF THE EVIDENCE SUPPORTED A FINDING THAT CURTIS MADE SEVERAL REMARKS IN THE WORKPLACE THAT WERE INCONSISTENT WITH COUNTY STANDARDS OF PROFESSIONALISM, REFERENCING PHYSICAL DISCIPLINE, VIOLENT IMAGERY, EMPLOYEE INTELLIGENCE AND EMPLOYEE APPEARANCE OR GENDER. A PREPONDERANCE OF THE EVIDENCE SUPPORTED A FINDING THAT CURTIS PUBLICLY ADMONISHED A SUBORDINATE DURING A OPEN HOUSE IN A MANNER INCONSISTENT WITH COUNTY WORKPLACE STANDARDS. HOWEVER, DID NOT FIND SUPPORT, A FINDING THAT HE RAISED HIS VOICE. IN DOING SO, A PREPONDERANCE OF THE EVIDENCE SUPPORTED A FINDING THAT HIS CONDUCT, CONSIDERED IN TOTALITY, CONTRIBUTED TO AN UNPROFESSIONAL WORKPLACE ENVIRONMENT. A PREPONDERANCE OF THE EVIDENCE SUPPORTED A FINDING THAT HE RESTRICTED A SUBORDINATE EMPLOYEE'S PUBLIC FACING DUTIES AND CANCELED ATTENDANCE AT A CONFERENCE FOLLOWING A DISAGREEMENT. THE EVIDENCE SUPPORTED THAT HE ARTICULATED OPERATIONAL CONSIDERATIONS, BUT THAT THOSE ACTIONS MAY HAVE BEEN DISPROPORTIONATE TO THE CONDUCT. AND THE. ADDITIONALLY, IT FOUND IT DID NOT SUSTAIN FINDINGS THAT HE USED COUNTY EQUIPMENT OR RESOURCES TO CREATE OR DISTRIBUTE CAMPAIGN MATERIALS. NOR DID IT ESTABLISH THAT A SEPTEMBER 20TH OPEN HOUSE, OR 2025 4TH OF JULY EVENT OR ROUTINE OFFICE TOURS CONSTITUTE A CAMPAIGN ACTIVITY AND ALSO NOT SUSTAINED. A PREPONDERANCE OF THE EVIDENCE DID NOT SUPPORT A FINDING THAT HE TREATED FEMALE EMPLOYEES DIFFERENTLY THAN MALE EMPLOYEES IN TERMS OF TONE, RESPONSIBILITIES OR OPPORTUNITIES. THANK YOU, MISS BLANKENSHIP, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? WE DO. CHAIR, WE HAVE 42. 42 OF THEM. ALL RIGHT. LET'S GO AHEAD AND CAN YOU CAN YOU CAN YOU WAIT TILL AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT? ALL RIGHT. PERFECT. WITH THAT, EACH SPEAKER WILL HAVE TWO MINUTES, AS I CALL YOUR NAME. PLEASE GET IN QUEUE. FIRST UP, STEVE WOODRUM, FOLLOWED BY BRANT TURNER, JENNIFER, THEN MICHAEL HERNANDEZ. KRISTIN, TURN THE SPEAKER ON. A COUNTY OFFICIAL BELITTLES HIS STAFF. THE COUNTY COUNCIL, THE SUPERVISORS AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC. HE THREATENS FEDERAL CHARGES AGAINST HIS PREDECESSORS AND THE PERSON RUNNING AGAINST HIM IN THE UPCOMING CAMPAIGN. HE VIOLATES ELECTION LAWS BY CAMPAIGNING ON PUBLIC, ON COUNTY PROPERTY AND TIME AND ATTACKING HIS POLITICAL OPPONENT. NOW YOU CAN SAY HE NEVER MENTIONED HER NAME, SO IT WAS OKAY. BUT THAT'S A BOGUS DEFENSE. I HAVEN'T MENTIONED ANY NAMES EITHER. AND YET EVERYONE IN THIS ROOM KNOWS I'M TALKING ABOUT CLINT CURTIS. MR. CURTIS RECENTLY RAN HIS FIRST ELECTION. [00:25:01] HE CLAIMED, BECAUSE OF HIS EFFICIENCY IMPROVEMENTS. SHASTA COUNTY WOULD BE AMONG THE FIRST TO REPORT FINAL RESULTS. INSTEAD, WE WERE AMONG THE LAST TO REPORT. BECAUSE OF HIS EFFICIENCY IMPROVEMENTS, MANY PEOPLE ENCOUNTERED SIGNIFICANT FRUSTRATION AND DELAYS WHILE THEY VOTED. IF MR. CURTIS REALLY WANTS TO IMPROVE ELECTIONS IN SHASTA COUNTY, HE SHOULD QUIT. NEXT UP WE HAVE BRANT TURNER, FOLLOWED BY JENNIFER MICHAEL HERNANDEZ. THEN RONALD PLUM. IS BRANT TURNER HERE? NOT SEEING BRANT TURNER. JENNIFER. OH, SORRY. COME ON UP, BRANT. HELLO, SUPERVISORS. COUNTY COUNCIL AND SPECTATORS. NORMALLY I SPEAK WITHOUT SCRIPT, BUT I'M GOING TO READ BECAUSE THIS ONE IS SO IMPORTANT. MY NAME IS BRANT TURNER. I'M CURRENTLY THE ASSISTANT REGISTRAR OF VOTERS FOR SHASTA COUNTY. I HOLD NUMEROUS LAW DEGREES, INCLUDING A DEGREE IN INTERNATIONAL LAW FROM OXFORD UNIVERSITY, AND I'VE BECOME NOTED FOR MY WORK IN ELECTION SYSTEM SECURITY WITH FORMER CIA DIRECTOR JIM WOOLSEY. I'VE KNOWN CLINT CURTIS FOR APPROXIMATELY 25 YEARS. I'VE NEVER HEARD HIM USE INAPPROPRIATE OR DEROGATORY LANGUAGE. HE'S A VERY KIND PERSON, ALTHOUGH AS A STAUNCH DEMOCRATIC PARTY ACTIVIST, I MUST SAY HIS POLITICS ARE SEVERELY MISGUIDED. ONE THING TO NOTE HERE IN SHASTA COUNTY, REPUBLICAN AND DEMOCRAT, CAN AGREE THAT ELECTION SYSTEM SECURITY IS PARAMOUNT, AND OUR DUTY TO UNCLE SAM IS PARAMOUNT. I'M TO BLAME HERE. I THOUGHT THAT THE STAFF WOULD COME ALONG AND RECOGNIZE DUTY TO UNCLE SAM RATHER THAN DUTY TO A HIGH SCHOOL FRIEND OR. WHATEVER'S GOING ON HERE, I TAKE EXCEPTION TO IT. I'VE CHANGED MY LIFE TO BE HERE AND TRY TO HELP WITH THE ELECTIONS. CLINTON HAS BROUGHT IN TRANSPARENT ELECTIONS TO SHASTA COUNTY. IT WASN'T HERE BEFORE THE OFFICE WAS IN ARREARS. WHEN? WHEN WE GOT HERE. IT'S IN BAD SHAPE NOW, BUT IT'S GETTING BETTER. WE NEED HELP FROM YOU. THESE KINDS OF THINGS DON'T HELP. I APPRECIATE YOUR ATTENTION. THANK YOU. NEXT UP, JENNIFER, FOLLOWED BY MICHAEL HERNANDEZ. RONALD PLUMMER, THEN CAROL, IF I CALLED YOUR NAME, PLEASE GET IN QUEUE. GOOD MORNING. AS A CHARTER COUNTY, YOUR AUTHORITY AND YOUR RESPONSIBILITY, POWER AND DUTY TO SUPERVISE COUNTY OFFICIALS AND ENSURE THAT THEIR OFFICES ARE OPERATING LAWFULLY, SAFELY AND IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE PUBLIC. WHAT WE'RE SEEING OUT OF THE ELECTIONS OFFICE IS NOT SIMPLY POLITICAL DISAGREEMENT. IT INCLUDES CREDIBLE CONCERNS ABOUT THE BREAKDOWN OF INTERNAL PROCESSES, FAILURE TO FOLLOW THROUGH ON PUBLICLY STATED TRANSPARENCY MEASURES, AND THE SIDELINING OF PROMISED OVERSIGHT MECHANISMS. THERE ARE ALSO SERIOUS CONCERNS ABOUT THE USE OF THE REGISTRAR'S OFFICIAL POSITION TO PROMOTE AND PRESENT ELECTION PROCEDURES IN AN OVERTLY POLITICAL SETTING ALONGSIDE PARTIZAN ADVOCACY GROUPS, CREATING, AT MINIMUM, THE APPEARANCE THAT THE OFFICE IS NOT OPERATING WITH THE NEUTRALITY THAT IS REQUIRED UNDER CALIFORNIA LAW. AND YOU HEARD IT EVEN HERE TODAY, THE LEFTIES. ADDITIONALLY, PUBLIC STATEMENT MADE BY THE REGISTRAR HAVE INCLUDED ALLEGATIONS OF CRIMINAL CONDUCT AGAINST PRIOR ELECTIONS OFFICIALS WITHOUT OFFERING SUBSTANTIATED EVIDENCE, FURTHER ERODING THE TRUST AND INTEGRITY AND IMPARTIALITY OF THE OFFICE. NOW WE HAVE ALLEGATIONS OF A HOSTILE WORK ENVIRONMENT, SUBSTANTIATED FINDINGS OF MANAGERIAL MISCONDUCT, AND A SITUATION THAT EXPOSES THIS COUNTY TO SIGNIFICANT LEGAL AND FINANCIAL LIABILITY. I WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR. I HAVE BROUGHT LEGAL ACTION AGAINST THIS BOARD, AND I WILL DO IT AGAIN. AND I'M SPEAKING TO YOU NOT ONLY AS A RESIDENT BUT AS A BLUE STAR MOTHER. MY SON IS CURRENTLY DEPLOYED IN THE MIDDLE EAST. MY SON VOLUNTEERED TO DEFEND DEMOCRACY. THE VERY LEAST I EXPECT OF YOU IS TO DO YOUR PART HERE AND DEFEND IT AS WELL. DO YOUR JOB, UPHOLD THE LAW, PROTECT YOUR EMPLOYEES, AND DEFEND THE DEMOCRATIC PRINCIPLES THAT OTHERS, LIKE MY SON, ARE WILLING TO RISK THEIR LIVES FOR. MICHAEL HERNANDEZ FOLLOWED BY RONALD PLUM, CAROL, THEN MARJORIE ANDREWS. MY NAME IS MICHAEL HERNANDEZ, PUBLISHER OF CALI RED NEWS, AN ONLINE NEWS PLATFORM SERVING THE STATE. AFTER LIVING IN REDDING FOR SIX YEARS, I'M HERE TO DO SOMETHING I'VE NEVER DONE DURING THAT TIME. GIVE A PUBLIC COMMENT. I'M HERE TO LEND MY SUPPORT FOR CLINT CURTIS AS REGISTER OF VOTERS. I BELIEVE HE HAS TRANSFORMED THE ELECTION OFFICE POSITIVELY DURING HIS TIME HERE. I BELIEVE THAT TODAY'S AGENDA ITEM R ONE IS POLITICALLY MOTIVATED PRIOR TO THE JUNE 2ND [00:30:03] ELECTIONS AND SHOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED BY THE SHASTA COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS. I BELIEVE THE ALLEGATIONS AGAINST GLENN CURTISS ARE UNFOUNDED, AND I BELIEVE THEY ARE BROUGHT FORTH BY THOSE WHO ARE DISGRUNTLED AND ARE NOT VALID. I TOTALLY SUPPORT GLENN CURTISS AND HIS EFFORTS TO BRING TRANSPARENCY TO THE SHASTA COUNTY ELECTION OFFICE. I BELIEVE WE SHOULD BE GRATEFUL FOR HIS SERVICE TO THE COUNTY AS I AM. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE MY COMMENT. NEXT UP, RONALD PLUM, FOLLOWED BY CAROL, MARJORIE ANDREWS, THEN JEFF GORDON. IF I CALLED YOUR NAME, PLEASE GET IN QUEUE. GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS RONALD PLUM. FOR THE PAST SIX YEARS, SINCE THE 20 AND SINCE THE 2020 ELECTION, MY INTEREST IN OUR ELECTION PROCESS WAS IGNITED. I BEGAN TO INVESTIGATE THE PROCESS IN OUR COUNTY AND OUR NATION. AFTER HEARING ABOUT THE NEED FOR EXTRA HELP IN THE ELECTION OFFICE, I APPLIED FOR THE POSITION AND WAS HIRED FOR THE 2025 ELECTION. MY EDUCATION AND DEGREE IN BUSINESS ORGANIZATIONAL MANAGEMENT HAS GIVEN ME A UNIQUE SKILL SET AND PERSPECTIVE IN PERSONNEL AND BUSINESS OPERATIONS. FROM MY PROFESSIONAL VIEW AND COUPLED WITH PAST EXPERIENCE, I OBSERVED A VERY PEACEFUL, ORGANIZED AND TRANSPARENT FLOW OF THE ELECTION BALLOTS CAST AND PROCESSED. FROM MY MANAGERIAL PERSPECTIVE, MR. CLINT CURTIS WAS AND IS A CONFIDENT LEADER AND MANAGER. I OBSERVED HIS CALM STRENGTH, EXPERTISE IN HANDLING TRAINING AND GUIDANCE TO BOTH NEW AND SEASONED EMPLOYEES. MR. CURTIS CREATED A TRANSPARENT AND WELCOMING OBSERVATION ROOM. THE ROOM WAS ORDERLY, PEACEFUL, OPEN AND AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC. IT WAS ALSO OBVIOUS THAT THERE WERE IRRITATION AND RESISTANCE FROM LONG TERM EMPLOYEES. MANY TIMES PEOPLE WERE DISGUSTED WITH CHANGES FROM THE OLD SYSTEM AND TO THE NEW UNACCUSTOMED PROCEDURES. MANY TIMES PEOPLE WOULD SAY, LET ME ASK MR. CURTIS WITH A HUFF AND DISDAIN IN TONE AND FACIAL EXPRESSIONS. AFTER WE COMPLETED THE PROCESSING OF BALLOTS, I WAS SHOCKED BY THE VISCERAL EXPLOSION DURING THE MEETING HELD TO DISCUSS STAFF OPINIONS. VOICES WERE LOUD, AGGRESSIVE AND DISRESPECTFUL. PEOPLE WERE WERE NOT SHY TO ATTACK NEW PROCEDURES AND EXPLODE WITH DISDAIN TOWARD CHANGES IN HOW DEDICATED THEY HAD WORKED. CAROL FOLLOWED BY MARJORIE ANDREWS, JEFF GORDON, AND THEN JENNY. IF I CALLED YOUR NAME, PLEASE GET IN QUEUE. GOOD MORNING SUPERVISORS AND EVERYONE IN ATTENDANCE HERE. I'M CAROL AND THIS IS DIFFICULT FOR ME, BUT IT IS. I FEEL COMPELLED TO COME AND JUST SAY SOMETHING IN ON BEHALF OF CLINT CURTIS. I RECENTLY, I GUESS IT WAS LIKE LAST YEAR BEGAN TO BECOME MORE INVOLVED IN THE ELECTION PROCESS. I DID OBSERVATION, WHICH WAS ABSOLUTELY MEANINGLESS. I COULDN'T SEE ANYTHING. BLOCKED. EVERYTHING WAS JUST. AND SO WHEN I FOUND OUT CLINT CURTIS WAS WHAT HE WAS DOING AND HOW HE HAS CHANGED, RADICALLY CHANGED OUR ELECTION PROCESS HERE IN SHASTA COUNTY, I AM ON BOARD FOR THAT. I'VE EVEN APPLIED TO BE A POLL WORKER, FOR HEAVEN'S SAKES, I JUST. BUT I FEEL COMPELLED TO SAY SOMETHING TO YOU THAT THIS IS A TOTALLY UNFAIR PROCESS. I FEEL THAT THERE SHOULD HAVE BEEN AN INDEPENDENT OUTSIDE INVESTIGATION. I THINK THAT WHAT CLINT HAS DONE AND I JUST I BELIEVE WHAT HE SAYS. I JUST THINK THAT THIS IS THIS IS ALREADY WHEN I LOOKED AT ALL OF THE THE DOCUMENTS THAT WERE ON THE THE BOARD WEBSITE, AND IT WAS LIKE A RESOLUTION HAS ALREADY BEEN DRAFTED. I'M JUST GOING. ALL IT NEEDS IS A VOTE AND AND SIGNATURES. AND I THOUGHT, THIS IS JUST ALREADY A DONE DEAL. IT'S A POLITICALLY MOTIVATED PROCESS THAT, THAT WE'RE GOING THROUGH. AND I JUST TRUST THAT YOU WILL DO THE RIGHT THING AND LAY THIS TO REST THAT CLINT IS DOING A WONDERFUL JOB AS OUR NEW ROV AND COUNTY CLERK. SO THAT'S IT. MARJORIE ANDREWS FOLLOWED BY JEFF GORDON. JENNY, THEN MARGARET HANSON. MY NAME IS MARJORIE ANDREWS. I CURRENTLY WORK IN THE SHASTA COUNTY ELECTIONS OFFICE IS EXTRA HELP. I PREVIOUSLY WORKED FOR SHASTA COUNTY COUNCIL FOR A SHORT TIME BEFORE TRANSFERRING TO THE ELECTIONS OFFICE IN AUGUST OF 2025. [00:35:02] I WAS HIRED TO FILL A TEMPORARY EXECUTIVE ASSISTANT POSITION. HOWEVER, BACK IN AUGUST 2024, I WAS HIRED AS EXTRA HELP FOR THE PRESIDENTIAL GENERAL ELECTION. TOM TOLLER WAS THE REGISTER OF VOTERS AT THAT TIME. I WAS INTRODUCED TO SUPERVISOR TOMMY TALKINGTON AND THE ELECTION CREW. HE AND THE TEAM WERE VERY HELPFUL, VERY KNOWLEDGEABLE IN ANSWERING MY QUESTIONS AND PROVIDING MY TRAINING. I WAS GIVEN DIRECTION AND ASSIGNMENTS THROUGH THE ENTIRE ELECTION. IT WAS EXHAUSTING, BUT IT WAS WORTH IT. IT'S NOW AUGUST 2025 AND CLINT CURTIS IS THE NEW REGISTER OF VOTERS. AS THE DAYS UNFOLDED, I CONTINUED TO FEEL FRUSTRATED WITH TRYING TO GET ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS. ON ONE OCCASION, MR. CURTIS ASKED ME TO GET SOME INFORMATION FOR HIM FROM MIKE. WHILE I WAS TALKING TO MIKE. TOMMY CAME OUT OF HIS OFFICE AND SAID TO ME IN A VERY ANGRY VOICE, STOP TALKING TO MY EMPLOYEE. YOU COME TO ME FIRST. I TRIED TELLING HIM. MR. CURTIS SENT ME, BUT HE IGNORED ME AND WALKED AWAY. THIS WAS THE SAME SUPERVISOR WHO PREVIOUSLY WAS SO NICE AND SO HELPFUL TO ME. WHAT HAPPENED? ANOTHER TIME I SAW MR. CURTIS TALKING WITH TOMMY OUTSIDE HIS OFFICE DOOR. HE WAS DISCUSSING A MATTER CALMLY WHEN TOMMY RAISED HIS VOICE, YELLING, I WON'T DO IT! HE THEN TURNED AND WALKED AWAY. BY THE TIME THE NOVEMBER ELECTION ARRIVED, I EXPERIENCED OVERWHELMING FRUSTRATION WITH THE OFFICE, ESPECIALLY WHEN I HAD TO ASK IMPORTANT QUESTIONS. THE ANSWER I GOT WAS, THAT'S NOT MY JOB OR I DON'T KNOW. THIS CONTINUED BACK AND FORTH THIS PAST EIGHT MONTHS LEAVES ME SPEECHLESS. I HAVE OBSERVED WHAT APPEARS TO BE STONEWALLING ANY PROCEDURES AND PROCESSES MR. CURTIS HAS TRIED TO ACHIEVE. IN CLOSING, I AM HONORED TO WORK FOR THE SHASTA COUNTY ELECTIONS OFFICE AND DEEPLY THANKFUL TO MR. CURTIS FOR THE NEW TRANSPARENT ELECTIONS OFFICE. HE IS FOLLOWED BY JENNY, MARGARET HANSEN, THEN CHRISTIAN. GOOD MORNING EVERYONE. I THINK THIS SHOULD BE A FAIRLY EASY DECISION FOR THE BOARD, AND THAT WOULD BE TO CENSURE MR. CURTIS. I MEAN, WE'RE NOT HERE TO LITIGATE THE ENTIRE ISSUE. WE'VE HAD AN INVESTIGATION WHICH IS A RESULTED IN SUBSTANTIATION OF THE ALLEGATIONS. ARE WE GOING TO ARE WE GOING TO CLAIM THAT MISS FUGITT IS A BIASED INVESTIGATOR THAT HAS SOME BEEF AGAINST MR. CURTIS, THAT SHE'S A LEFTY, THAT SHE'S HERE TO, YOU KNOW, SEND MR. CURTIS PACKING BACK TO ORLANDO? I MEAN, I THINK WE ALL KNOW MISS FUGITT, AND WE WERE AWARE OF HER REPUTATION AND HER INTEGRITY. YOU HAVE A FINDING SUBSTANTIATED ALLEGATIONS. THE QUESTION IS, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT IT? IT'S NOT RELITIGATING THE ENTIRE ISSUE WHICH HAS ALREADY OCCURRED. I ASSUME MR. CURTIS HAS HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE HIS INPUT ON THESE ALLEGATIONS. THE DECISION HAS BEEN MADE. IT'S BEEN SUBSTANTIATED. WHAT DO YOU DO? DO YOU LET IT GO AND SWEEP IT UNDER THE RUG AND SAY, OH, IT'S JUST MR. CURTIS AND IT'S ALL THE LEFTIES. IT'S ALL HIS LITTLE SOCIALISTS THAT ARE RAISING ISSUES. I MEAN, COME ON, IT'S A NO BRAINER. CENSURE HIM. NEXT UP, JENNY, FOLLOWED BY MARGARET HANSEN, CHRISTIAN, THEN BEV. IF I CALLED YOUR NAME, PLEASE GET IN QUEUE. A LITTLE LATE FOR CENSURING. LITTLE LATE. I THINK THAT WHEN SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE'VE BROUGHT UP. AND BEFORE ANYONE OVER HERE SAYS ANYTHING. I WANT YOU ALL TO REMEMBER THAT I OBSERVED, BOTH UNDER JOANNA AND UNDER CLINT CURTIS. AND I CAN TELL YOU HE HAD THE MOST DISORGANIZED ELECTION I'VE EVER SEEN. AND THOSE LITTLE COMMENTS THAT THEY TALK ABOUT HOW THEY WENT. OH LET ME ASK MR. CURTIS. IT'S BECAUSE HE CHANGED HIS MIND SEVERAL TIMES, EVEN WITHIN THE SAME DAY. SO NOBODY KNEW WHAT THE HECK WAS GOING ON. SO I DON'T WANT TO HEAR ABOUT HOW INCREDIBLY, INCREDIBLY PROFESSIONAL STAFF DIDN'T HANDLE THINGS WELL. MAYBE IF THEY HAD BETTER LEADERSHIP. WHAT IS THAT A GOOD A GOOD CRAFTSMAN DOESN'T BLAME THE TOOL. ALL RIGHT. IF YOU SUCK AS A LEADER, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE PEOPLE WHO DON'T LIKE BEING UNDER YOU. NOW IT'S A LITTLE LATE FOR CENSORSHIP. HE'S ABUSIVE. HE'S A LIAR. HE LIES REGULARLY. HE LIES SO OFTEN. I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THE TRUTH COMES OUT OF HIM. IN THAT SCENARIO, IT'S TIME TO GRAND JURY THIS BECAUSE WHILE IT IS RARE, THEY DO HAVE THE ABILITY TO REMOVE FROM OFFICE. CENSORSHIP IS A LITTLE BIT LATE. WE ASKED FOR THAT A WHILE AGO. IT IS TIME TO REMOVE FROM OFFICE. NEXT UP, MARGARET HANSEN, FOLLOWED BY CHRISTIAN BEV, THEN WILLIAM FARRELL. SO I WAS LISTENING TO MISS FUGITT REPORT AFTER YOU GUYS DECIDED THAT YOU WERE GOING TO WAIVE THAT. AN ATTORNEY CLIENT PRIVILEGE. FROM WHAT I HEARD AND SAW, I'M GOING TO DO A RECORDS REQUEST BECAUSE I REALLY WANT TO KNOW THIS STUFF NOW. IT'S WEAK AT BEST. ALL THOSE HUGE ACCUSATIONS. [00:40:06] INTERESTING BECAUSE WHEN SHE STARTED TALKING ABOUT THAT, I WISH YOU GUYS HAD EXPLORED THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE BECAUSE THE NOTES THAT I TOOK, IT'S NOT THIS HUGE BLOWN OUT THING, BUT I KNOW THAT THERE'S SABOTAGE IN THAT OFFICE. YOU CAN SEE IT. I EXPERIENCED IT WHEN I WAS IN THERE FOR THE CRAZY OVERSPRAY ISSUE. I OBSERVED YOU COULDN'T GET ANYWHERE NEAR WHERE THEY NEEDED TO GO. YOU WERE STARED AT. THERE WERE BALLOTS BEING CARRIED IN AND OUT, ALL SORTS OF STUFF. BUT I GOTTA SAY, YOU KNOW HOW CONVENIENT. THIS COMES OUT JUST BEFORE JUNE 2ND. INTERESTING. NEXT UP, CHRISTIAN, FOLLOWED BY BEV. WILLIAM FARRELL, THEN DOLORES LUCERO. IF I CALLED YOUR NAME, PLEASE GET IN QUEUE. SUPERVISORS. YOUR PERSONAL INTEGRITY. DUTY TO THE LAW. DUTY TO THE PEOPLE OF SHASTA COUNTY AND DUE TO DUTY TO POLICY ARE ON TRIAL TODAY HERE. MR. CURTIS HAS MADE NUMEROUS PUBLIC STATEMENTS OF UNFOUNDED ALLEGATIONS. FOUND TO BE LIES IN THE COURTS. FOUND TO BE NOT TRUE BY OUR GRAND JURY. HE'S MADE THESE ALLEGATIONS TO THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE. HE'S ACTUALLY WRITTEN TO TRUMP. HE'S MADE THESE ALLEGATIONS NUMEROUS TIMES TO THE FBI, ONCE AGAIN PROVEN TO BE FALSE, PROVEN TO BE NOT FOUNDED IN GRAND JURY INVESTIGATIONS. ADDITIONALLY, BASICALLY, MR. CURTIS CLAIMS THAT OUR ELECTIONS CANNOT BE CONSIDERED LEGAL OR LEGITIMATE BECAUSE OF THE USE OF TECHNOLOGY OR BECAUSE WE DO NOT ENDORSE THE BASIC CONCEPTS OF HIS MEASURE B. THESE ACTIONS CAN BE SEEN AS AN ATTEMPT TO UNDERMINE CONFIDENCE IN THE LAWFUL FOUNDATION OF DEMOCRACY. OUR ELECTIONS DENYING FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS TO THE MEDIA AND TELLING AN EMPLOYEE, IF YOU DON'T AGREE WITH MY PERSONAL OPINION AND IF YOU DON'T AGREE THERE FACT YOU'RE OUT OF HERE. THIS IS NO WAY TO RUN AN ELECTION. NEXT UP, BEV, FOLLOWED BY WILLIAM FARRELL, DOLORES LUCERO, THEN KIM MOORE. GOOD MORNING. I'M SPEAKING FOR MYSELF AND NOT ANY ORGANIZATION. WHEN WORKING THE ELECTION LAST YEAR, A FEW OF US WERE ASKED TO OBSERVE THE BALANCING PROCEDURE. JENNY WAS IN CHARGE OF THAT. WE WERE RUDELY TOLD WHERE WE HAD TO SIT AND SHUT UP. THERE WAS NO WAY WE COULD SEE ANYTHING WHEN JENNY STEPPED AWAY. SHE CAME BACK WITH A STACK OF PAPER LIKE A REAM, AND SHE THREW IT IN THE TRASH CAN RIGHT NEXT TO PATTY. I DIDN'T KNOW IF THE TRASH CAN MOVED SO MUCH THAT IT HIT PATTY, BUT IT BOUNCED THE FLOOR. THAT'S HOW HARD SHE DID IT. OKAY, THAT WAS A HOSTILE ENVIRONMENT BECAUSE SHE DID IT MORE THAN ONCE. OKAY. AND THEN I RECENTLY TRIED TO GET A COPY OF THE VOTER ROLLS OR THE FILES. AND AT THE FRONT DESK, I ASKED HOW MUCH IT WOULD COST SO I COULD PAY FOR IT. I WAS TOLD TOMMY WOULD CONTACT ME AND GET ME THE FILE AND TELL ME HOW MUCH IT COST. WHEN DOES ANYONE BUY STUFF? I CAN'T AFFORD TO BUY STUFF WITHOUT KNOWING THE PRICE, I MEAN. AND THEN I LATER FIND OUT THIS GUY HAS IT RIGHT THERE AT HIS DESK, AND HE COULD HAVE QUOTED ME HOW MUCH IT WAS. AND SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S BEING TREATED DIFFERENTLY. AFTER THREE WEEKS, I WENT BACK IN AND RE REQUESTED IT. OKAY. AND I KNOW PEOPLE THAT GOT THEIRS REALLY QUICK. OKAY. SO WHY DID I HAVE TO WAIT THREE WEEKS? AND THEN ONE OF THE GALS WAS ABLE TO PULL IT FOR ME RIGHT THEN. THAT'S HOW LONG IT TAKES. SO, YOU KNOW, IF THERE IS A HOSTILE ENVIRONMENT THERE, BUT IT'S NOT COMING FROM CLINT CURTIS. THANK YOU. NEXT UP, WILLIAM FARRELL, FOLLOWED BY DOLORES LUCERO, KIM MOORE, THEN STEVE CONN. IF I CALLED YOUR NAME, PLEASE GET IN QUEUE. I AM WILLIAM FARRELL, A RETIRED DENTIST, A BOARD CERTIFIED FORENSIC ODONTOLOGIST. I SERVED IN THE MARINE CORPS AS A RECON PLATOON LEADER AND LATER AS A COMBAT [00:45:02] INTELLIGENCE OFFICER OF THE AND G2 FIRST MARINE AIR WING IN JAPAN AND VIETNAM. I'M A COMBAT VETERAN OF VIETNAM. IN 63, I FIRST WORKED IN THE MARKET STREET ELECTION OFFICE IN 2024 ON FRANCISCA AND LATER IN 2025 UNDER CLINT, LAURA, HOBBS AND I WERE THE BALLOT RETRIEVERS, TWO DOCTORS PICKING UP THE BALLOTS. KIND OF FUN. AND AND NOTE THAT DURING MY TIME IN THE AND THE STAFF, THE ATMOSPHERE WAS SOMETIMES TENSE AND THAT RESISTANCE TO NEW LEADERSHIP OCCASIONALLY APPEARED TO COME FROM CERTAIN VETERAN EMPLOYEES. NOT FROM CURTIS CURTIN DOESN'T HAVE A BAD WORD IN HIS MOUTH. FOR EXAMPLE, I WITNESSED BRENDA HAYES LA FORCE EMPLOYEE A LONG TERM EMPLOYEE OF CONGRESSMAN DOUG LAMALFA WAS A MEMBER OF THE THE TEAM OF QUESTIONING BALLOTS FIVE TIMES THE THE ADJUDICATION TEAM THAT WOULD GO OVER CERTAIN BALLOTS, AND SHE WAS ASKED TO BE THERE FIVE SEPARATE TIMES, AND SHE WOULD SHOW UP 10 TO 15 MINUTES EARLY AND ON TWO TIMES. THEY DID THEIR JOB ALONG WITH THE OTHER MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE. THREE OTHER TIMES SHE SAT THERE FOR AN HOUR AND A HALF. AND THANK YOU. NEXT UP, DOLORES LUCERO, KIM MOORE, STEVE CONN, THEN LORI, LET'S FACE IT, YOU ALL THREE AND WHOEVER VOTED FOR CLINT CURTIS, YOU SCREWED UP. YOU AS BOARD OF SUPERVISORS HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO PROTECT ALL CITIZENS, NOT JUST YOUR SUPPORTERS, NOT JUST THESE PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY SUPPORT CLINT CURTIS IN THAT DAMN OFFICE. IT'S A CONFLICT OF INTEREST FOR LAURA HUB AND PATTY PLUM AND ALL THESE PEOPLE WORKING IN THAT OFFICE. AND YET YOU CONTINUE TO ALLOW THIS AND YOU HAVE DONE NOTHING. SHE FILED A LAWSUIT AGAINST THE COUNTY, AND YET SHE'S STILL WORKING THERE. DON'T YOU SEE THAT YOU HAVE A PROBLEM HERE? IT'S YOU GUYS WHO DON'T MAKE THE RIGHT DECISION. YOU PUT HIM IN THERE. IT'S RIDICULOUS THAT PEOPLE HAVE TO DEAL WITH YOUR PROBLEMS THAT YOU BROUGHT TO THE CITIZENS. VOTING RIGHTS. VOTING RIGHTS IS A BIG THING HERE FOR PEOPLE. WHEN YOU VIOLATE PEOPLE'S RIGHTS TO VOTE. NOBODY'S GOING TO WANT TO GO INTO THE DAMN OFFICE TO DEAL WITH THE SALES CARD PERSON HERE. CLINT CURTIS. HE'S A LIAR. HE'S A MANIPULATOR. I KNEW THAT A COUPLE WEEKS AGO WHEN HE ACTUALLY THREATENED THAT PERSON, THAT HE WAS GOING TO GRAB HER BY THE HAIR, AND SHE DIDN'T COME OUT OF THE ROOM, I KNEW THAT. BUT, YOU KNOW, BUT THE THING IS, YOU GUYS PROBABLY HEARD ABOUT IT TOO, BUT YOU DON'T DO A DAMN THING. I ACTUALLY BEEN IN CONTACT WITH THE ATTORNEY GENERAL AND THE FBI FOR CLINT CURTIS TO SAY THAT THAT'S A LIE, BECAUSE I CONTACTED THEM AND I REQUESTED FOR INFORMATION HE HAS NOT SUBMITTED ANYTHING. THAT'S A BUNCH OF BULLSHIT. HE'S CONSTANTLY BULLSHITTING PEOPLE, AND THESE PEOPLE FALL FOR THAT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT KOOL-AID THEY DRANK, BUT IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE CHRISTIANS AND REPUBLICANS. I'M A REPUBLICAN. I BELIEVE IN GOD, BUT I BELIEVE IN JUSTICE AND I BELIEVE IN RIGHTS. YOU DON'T YOU DON'T SUPPORT PEOPLE LIKE THIS IN THAT OFFICE. YOU'RE CAUSING PROBLEMS. I CONTACTED THE THE ATTORNEY GENERAL, ROB BONTA, IS THE ONE WHO CONTACTED THE THE SHERIFF IN RIVERSIDE. I FILED THIS WITH THEM FOR HIM TO COME AND GET GLENN CURTISS. NEXT UP, KIM MOORE, FOLLOWED BY STEVE KHAN, LORI, THEN DOMINIC. SHE'S BACK. HI. BOARD OF SUPERVISORS. WELL, SHAME ON YOU, MR. LONG. AND I'M NOT GOING TO BLAME MONICA FUGITT FOR THIS, BECAUSE SHE HAS TO RUN OFF OF WHAT THESE FOOLS CAME AND TOLD HER. BUT WE ALL KNOW WHAT THIS IS. THIS RACE GETS DECIDED IN JUNE. IT DOESN'T GO ON TO THE NATIONAL BALLOT. THIS RACE GETS DECIDED IN JUNE. THIS IS A CHARACTER ASSASSINATION. IT'S A WITCH HUNT. AND IT'S A SHAME THAT PEOPLE HAVE TO COME IN HERE AND TALK ABOUT SUING YOU GUYS TO GET YOU TO DO THE RIGHT THING. AND THERE'S THREE OF YOU, POSSIBLY FOUR. I DON'T THINK I HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT, BUT I KNOW ABOUT YOU, BUDDY, AND I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO, BECAUSE I WATCHED YOU TRY TO DO IT LEADING UP TO THIS. YOU'RE PLAYING IN ON IT. THESE PEOPLE ARE CORRUPT. CLINT CURTIS IS A GOOD MAN, AND THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE COMING UP HERE TO SAY THAT HE'S A GOOD MAN. [00:50:01] AND THERE ARE VERY FEW MEN THAT I WILL SAY ARE GOOD WHEN IT COMES TO POLITICS. BUT I WOULD BET MY LIFE ON THAT MAN AND THE FACT THAT HE TOOK A POLYGRAPH TEST. GET THE REST OF THEM TO TAKE A POLYGRAPH TEST. I WANT EVERY PERSON WHO MADE A CLAIM AGAINST CLINT CURTIS IN THIS ACTION. I WANT THEM SUBJECTED TO A POLYGRAPH TEST. AND I WANT YOU SUBJECTED TO A POLYGRAPH TO MR. LONG. YOU CARRY WATER FOR THE DEVIL? I HAVE ZERO DOUBT ABOUT IT. AND I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT I SEE RIGHT THROUGH YOU. AND YOU KNOW WHAT? I'M GOING TO FORGIVE YOU, AND I'M GOING TO PRAY FOR YOU. AND I'M GOING TO KEEP PRAYING TO GOD THAT HE WORKS ON ME, THAT HE CAN REMOVE MY ANGER FROM HAVING TO LOOK AT YOUR VILE CORRUPTION. WE KNOW WHO YOU ARE. WE KNOW WHO YOU'RE INVOLVED WITH. AND I'M TELLING YOU NOW, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET AWAY WITH THIS. AND JOANNA. FRANCESCA, NEITHER ARE YOU. NEXT UP, STEVE CONN, FOLLOWED BY LORI DOMINICK, THEN JOANNA FRANCISCO. THERE IS A REASON WHY POLYGRAPHS AREN'T USED IN THE LEGAL SYSTEM, JUST IN CASE YOU GUYS DON'T KNOW. THEY ARE NOT RELIABLE. ANYWAY, APPOINTED ROV CURTIS HAS REPEATEDLY DEMONSTRATED HIS INABILITY TO RUN THE OFFICE OF COUNTY CLERK AND ROV PROPERLY. THIS HAS BEEN DEMONSTRATED MANY, MANY TIMES. FROM ELIMINATING CERTAIN MEDIA ENTITIES FROM RECEIVING INFORMATION BECAUSE OF CURTIS'S POLITICAL BIAS TO ENDANGERING EMPLOYEES BY HAVING THEM MOVE HEAVY EQUIPMENT IN A NONPROFESSIONAL MANNER, WHICH OPENS SHASTA COUNTY UP TO LAWSUITS. PROBABLY BOTH OF THOSE THINGS. THIS CURRENT VIOLATION IS SIMPLY ONE MORE OF MANY THAT CURTIS HAS COMMITTED. HE HAS LIED REPEATEDLY IN PUBLIC AND UNDERMINED PUBLIC CONFIDENCE IN OUR ELECTION SYSTEM AND PROMOTED DIVISION. THIS. A LOT OF THAT INFORMATION WAS CORRECTED BY FRANCESCA RECENTLY IN A RADIO INTERVIEW. IF PEOPLE ARE INTERESTED, THEY COULD LISTEN TO IT. I SERIOUSLY DOUBT THAT. SUPERVISOR CRYE AND CHAIR KELSTROM WILL VOTE IN SUPPORT OF A RESOLUTION OF CENSURE FOR CURTIS, SINCE IT'S CLEAR TO ME THAT CRYE AND KELSTROM ARE BOTH GUILTY OF VIOLATING THE PERSONAL RULES OF CHAPTER 22. CRYE HAS PRESSURED EMPLOYEES TO TERMINATE OTHER EMPLOYEES UNJUSTIFIABLY. HE HAS PRESSURED EMPLOYEES SO MUCH THAT WE HAVE LOST MANY OF OUR MOST TALENTED EMPLOYEES. THEY HAVE MOVED ON TO OTHER EMPLOYMENT AND, AND OR AND OR RETIRED. IN THIS CASE, IT LOOKS LIKE CURTIS IS JUST FOLLOWING CHRIST'S EXAMPLE. ANYWAY. HIS BEHAVIOR. I THINK WE'RE GOING TO END UP GETTING SUED BY CURTIS BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT HE DOES. SO NOW WE'RE HE'S GOING TO NOT GET ELECTED AND HE'LL END UP SUING THE COUNTY FOR THE MULTIPLE THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON HERE. ANYWAY, NEXT UP, LORI, FOLLOWED BY DOMINIC, JOANNA, FRANCESCA, AND THEN DAVID HALLIGAN. IF I CALLED YOUR NAME, PLEASE GET IN QUEUE. LORI. OH, I SEE YOU. COME ON UP. SORRY. I THOUGHT YOU CALLED FOR ME. HI, I'M LORI. I'M JUST GOING TO SPEAK TO MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCES. I WORKED IN ROV OFFICE FOR SEVERAL MONTHS ON THE LAST ELECTION. WE HAD A GREAT TIME, GOOD GROUP OF PEOPLE. AT ONE POINT I WAS ASKED, I DID ABOUT EVERYTHING, EVERY JOB, WHICH WAS WONDERFUL BECAUSE I WAS THERE TO WORK. I SAID, IF YOU WANT ME TO EMPTY THE GARBAGE, I'LL DO WHATEVER YOU WANT ME TO DO. THEY ASKED ME TO WORK ON A CERTAIN MACHINE, THE MACHINE. AND I SAW THE REACTION OF DOROTHY, WHO RUNS THE AGILIS, AND SHE WAS NOT REAL PLEASED THAT I WAS GOING TO BE ASSIGNED TO HER. SO MY SUPERVISOR, ANNA, MR. CURTIS, AND DOROTHY HAD A LITTLE TALK. I STEPPED AS FAR AWAY AS I COULD, AND THEN THEY PUT ME ON THAT MACHINE WITH DOROTHY. WELL, GOOD NEWS IS, DOROTHY ASKED FOR ME BACK THIS THIS ELECTION BECAUSE WE GOT ON FAMOUSLY. SHE KNEW I WAS THERE TO WORK. WE WERE ALSO ASKED TO GO UP STAIRS AND OBSERVE RECONCILIATION. THERE WAS ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE SIX OF US UP THERE. I PREFER TO STAND AGAINST THE WALL. PART OF MY LAW ENFORCEMENT BACKGROUND WATCHING PEOPLE'S EMOTIONS. AND I WAS TRAINED IN THAT AND THAT'S WHAT I LIKE TO DO. SO I STOOD IN THE BACK AND WATCHED. AND UNFORTUNATELY, I DID SEE SOME AGGRESSION FROM JANET. THERE'S A VERY THICK BOOK. IT'S LIKE AN LA PHONE BOOK THIS LARGE, AND THERE'S A GARBAGE SITTING NEXT TO A MISS PLUM. AND JANET VERY FURIOUSLY PICKED THAT UP, THREW IT INTO THE CAN, WHICH WENT AGAINST PATTY. IT WAS VERY AGGRESSIVE BEHAVIOR. AND THE THING IS, JENNY AND I GET ALONG GREAT, [00:55:03] SO I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT COME FROM, BUT I DID OBSERVE THAT. AND THESE ARE MY OWN PERSONAL OBSERVATIONS FROM WORKING. MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE DOWN THERE ARE AWESOME. NEXT UP, DOMINIC, FOLLOWED BY JOANNA FRANCISCO. DAVID HOLLIGAN, THEN HERMAN SNELL. MY NAME IS DOMINIC SANTANGELO. I'M ON THE BOARD OF THE SORRY, THE SHASTA COUNTY REPUBLICAN ASSEMBLY. AND WE HAVE ABOUT 50, 51 OR 52 MEMBERS RIGHT NOW. I WANT TO TALK TO MATT OR TO MR. PLUMMER FOR A MINUTE. I'M ON YOUR EMAIL LIST AND FOR THE MOST PART, I REALLY LIKE IT. I THINK YOU'RE ARTICULATE. I THINK YOU'RE SMART, AND I REALLY ENJOY READING SOME OF THE ARTICLES. ONE ARTICLE RECENTLY THAT YOU WROTE, I THINK THE IT WAS ABOUT THE MEDICAL SCHOOLS, WHETHER TO HAVE SIMPSON OR UC DAVIS. AND WON. ONE PHRASE STRUCK ME. YOU SAID. PROPER DUE DILIGENCE REQUIRES BOTH MEANING THE SIMPSON AND UC DAVIS A FAIR LOOK. HEY, DOMINIC, WE NEED TO STICK TO R ONE. WELL, I'M GOING THERE. OKAY. AND I THINK THAT APPLIES TO WHAT'S GOING ON HERE. A FAIR LOOK BETWEEN THE PEOPLE THAT FEEL LIKE THEY'RE THEY'RE DONE WRONG. AND PEOPLE WHO ARE SAYING CLINT CURTIS IS DONE WRONG. I JUST WANT TO ASK EVERYBODY TO DO THEIR DUE DILIGENCE IN THIS INDIVIDUAL. DO DUE DILIGENCE. DON'T TAKE THE WORD OF PERSONNEL. DON'T TAKE THE WORD OF THE LAWYER. DO YOUR DUE DILIGENCE. AND AFTER YOU DO IT, THEN MAKE A DECISION. I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR TIME IN THIS. I THINK THE TIMING IS WRONG. FOUR WEEKS BEFORE THE ELECTION, JOANNA FRANCISCO, FOLLOWED BY DAVID HALLIGAN, HERMAN SNELL, THEN TIM SAUNDERS. IF I CALLED YOUR NAME, PLEASE GET IN QUEUE. CHAIR. MEMBERS OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS. CEO RICKERT COUNSEL LARMER HOLDING THE SPECIAL MEETING IN THE DAYS BEFORE BALLOTS ARE MAILED TO VOTERS MEANS THAT YOU ARE TRULY HAVING TO MAKE A TOUGH DECISION TODAY. I RECOGNIZE THAT I RESPECT THIS CONVERSATION, AND I URGE YOU TO FOCUS ON THE FACTS AND THE SUBSTANCE SUBSTANTIATED FINDINGS IN THE INVESTIGATIONS IN FRONT OF YOU, AND NOT THE DISTRACTIONS OF THE ADDITIONAL STORIES THAT YOU HAVE HEARD TODAY. I'M HERE TO STAND AS A WITNESS OF THE IMPORTANCE OF A COLLABORATIVE TEAM IN THAT OFFICE, A TEAM THAT IS FOCUSED ON THE GOALS OF RUNNING A RUNNING LAWFUL, TRANSPARENT AND EFFICIENT AND ACCURATE ELECTIONS. THIS CAN BE HARD AND STRESSFUL WORK, AND EACH ROLE IN THAT OFFICE IS CRITICAL TO A SUCCESSFUL ELECTION. FOR THAT OFFICE TO RUN EFFICIENT ELECTIONS, OUR COMMUNITY NEEDS EXPERIENCED STAFF THAT KNOW THESE ROLES AND WHAT IT TAKES TO GET THE JOB DONE. ALL EMPLOYEES DESERVE TO WORK IN A SAFE ENVIRONMENT. THE EMPLOYEES IN THAT OFFICE, WHETHER LONGTIME OR NEW, THEY ARE MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY. THEY ARE OUR NEIGHBORS, OUR FRIENDS. THEY ARE MOTHERS, SISTERS, AUNTS, UNCLES, FATHERS, GRANDPARENTS. THEY OFTEN HAVE TO WORK WEEKENDS AND EVENINGS JUST TO MAKE SURE YOU CAN CAST YOUR BALLOT. THEY DO THIS WORK BECAUSE THEY HAVE FOUND A PURPOSE IN THIS CAUSE, AND THEY WANT TO SERVE OUR COMMUNITY. TO ALL THE STAFF MEMBERS THAT KEEP SHOWING UP EVERY SINGLE DAY, I AM PROUD OF YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR RESILIENCE AND YOUR COMMITMENT TO SERVICE AND FOR THE HARD WORK YOU DO EVERY SINGLE DAY. REMEMBER THAT TRUE LEADERS OFTEN HAVE INTEGRITY, ENCOURAGE COLLABORATION, AND DEMAND OPEN, HONEST AND DIRECT COMMUNICATIONS THAT WILL EMPOWER EVERYONE AND TO ACHIEVE THEIR GOALS. IF YOU WORKED UNDER ME, YOU KNOW MY EXPECTATIONS AND HOW TO BE THAT LEADER. EVEN WHEN THOSE ABOVE AND AROUND YOU UNDERESTIMATE YOUR VALUE AND WORTH. DAVID HALLIGAN FOLLOWED BY HERMAN SNELL, TIM SAUNDERS, THEN CASEY, IF I CALLED YOUR NAME, PLEASE GET IN QUEUE. TOXIC. TOXIC. LEADERSHIP IN THE WORKPLACE IS DEFINED AS A PATTERN OF DESTRUCTIVE BEHAVIORS BY A LEADER THAT HARMS SUBORDINATES, EMPLOYEES, AND UNDERMINES THE LONG TERM HEALTH OF A DEPARTMENT. UNLIKE MERE INCOMPETENCE, THIS LEADERSHIP STYLE OFTEN INVOLVES VERBAL ABUSE, DELIBERATE MANIPULATION, INTIMIDATION, [01:00:01] OR SELF-SERVING ACTIONS THAT ERODE TRUST. TODAY, MR. CURTIS NEW HIRED TEAM IS USING THE CLASSIC WORKPLACE TACTIC CALLED CHARACTER WITNESSING OR REPUTATION BUFFERING. MR. CURTIS IS TRYING TO CREATE A NARRATIVE THAT THE BEHAVIOR HE ENGAGED IN IS OUT OF CHARACTER. BY GATHERING TESTIMONIALS. TODAY, MR. CURTIS IS HOPING TO CONVINCE THE BOARD IN PUBLIC THAT THE ACCUSERS ARE OUTLIERS OR OVERLY SENSITIVE, AND THAT THESE ACTIONS DIDN'T HAPPEN. THAT'S NOT WORKING TODAY, MR. CURTIS. MR. CURTIS BEING GREAT, BEING GREAT TO YOUR NEW NINE NINE NEW TEAM PICKED ELECTION TEAM DOESN'T GIVE YOU SIR. YOU SIR THE LICENSE TO HARASS AND INTIMIDATE THE 10TH OR 11TH LONGER TERM EMPLOYEES. BOARD. IT'S COMMON FOR HARASSERS LIKE MR. CURTIS TO BE VERY KIND TO THOSE THAT HE LIKES OR THOSE THAT ARE IN POWER, OR THOSE THAT HE HIRED WHILE TARGETING OTHERS WITH ABUSIVE BEHAVIOR. IN CONCLUSION, IT WAS HR'S JOB HERE TO INVESTIGATE. LOOK AT THE FACTS OF THE COMPLAINTS ON MR. CURTIS AND PRESENT THE FINDINGS TO THIS BOARD ON THE SUBSTANTIATED FACTS. NOW, BOARD, IT'S YOUR TURN. YOUR TURN TO ACT AND CENSURE MR. CURTIS FOR VIOLATING CHAPTER 22 OF SHASTA COUNTY PERSONAL RULES AND SPECIFICALLY PROHIBITIVE CONDUCT. NEXT UP, HERMAN SNELL, FOLLOWED BY TIM SAUNDERS, KC. THEN DANA, IF I CALLED YOUR NAME, PLEASE GET IN QUEUE. ARE YOU HERMAN? COME ON UP. I FIND IT FUNNY THAT ANYBODY WHO WOULD THINK THAT COMPUTERS CANNOT COUNT ACCURATELY WHILE AI IS TAKING OVER EVERYTHING WITH FULL SUPPORT OF THIS PRESIDENT, THE PRESIDENT WHO DOES NOT WANT ANYBODY TO INTERFERE. I ALSO FIND IT VERY INTERESTING THAT YOU'RE ALL UPSET ABOUT CLINT CURTIS. CLINT CURTIS IS NOTHING DIFFERENT THAN THE MEN MOST OF YOU VOTED FOR AS PRESIDENT. OUR PRESIDENT HAS AT LEAST 28 WOMEN WHO COMPLAINED OF SEXUAL MISCONDUCT AGAINST HIM. OUR PRESIDENT. OUR PRESIDENT THREATENS INDIVIDUALS. OUR PRESIDENT THREATENS BUSINESSES. OUR PRESIDENT THREATENS OTHER COUNTRIES. OUR PRESIDENT THREATENS TO PRESS. OUR PRESIDENT DEGRADES WOMEN ALL THE TIME. OUR PRESIDENT IS CONVICTED OF SEXUAL ASSAULT. OUR PRESIDENT IS CONVICTED OF FRAUD. OUR PRESIDENT IS CONVICTED. WE NEED TO STICK TO OUR ONE. WHEN IS ENOUGH? ENOUGH? IF CLINT CURTIS AND OUR PRESIDENT WERE DEMOCRATS, THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN REMOVED LONG AGO. YOUR DOUBLE STANDARDS ARE AMAZINGLY HYPOCRITICAL. DO THE RIGHT THING. NEXT UP, TIM SAUNDERS. TIM. COME ON UP. FOLLOWED BY CASEY, DANA, THEN JIM BURNETT. HE WAS. IF I CALLED YOUR NAME, PLEASE GET IN QUEUE. TIM SAUNDERS, DISTRICT ONE. THIS IS A COMPLETE WASTE OF COUNTY MONEY AND TIME. WHAT DO YOU GUYS EVEN DOING HERE TODAY? REALLY? SO MY OBSERVATION OF MR. CURTIS IS THAT HE HAS MADE THE ROV OFFICE MUCH MORE TRANSPARENT, MUCH LESS TOXIC, MUCH MORE PRO THE PEOPLE FRIENDLY IN TERMS OF OBSERVATION. AND WE NEED MORE OF HIM, NOT LESS. SO. LET'S LET GO OF THE WITCH HUNT. THIS IS ALL THIS IS HEARSAY. AND I AND I, I VERY MUCH DOUBT THE OBJECTIVITY OF LONG TERM COUNTY EMPLOYEES. JUST MY PERSONAL OPINION. WE HAD WHEN FRANCESCA WAS IN CHARGE, THERE WAS LITTLE TO NO MEANINGFUL OBSERVATION. NOW THERE IS. WHEN FRANCESCA WAS IN CHARGE, THERE WAS NO CAMERAS OBSERVING, RECORDING, AND OBSERVING THE ELECTION PROCESS. NOW THERE'S MANY CAMERAS. LET'S CONTINUE TO MAKE POSITIVE CHANGES FOR OPEN AND FAIR ELECTIONS AND SUPPORT. MR. CURTIS, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NEXT UP, CASEY, IS CASEY HERE? NOT SEEING CASEY. DANA. OH I'M SORRY CASEY. AFTER. CASEY. DANA. JIM. BURNETT. THEN LAURA. HOBBS. MR. CHAIRMAN, HONORABLE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, MY NAME IS CARRIE CHILSON, A CONCERNED SHASTA COUNTY RESIDENT. I AM EXTREMELY DISAPPOINTED AND OUTRAGED THAT THIS BOARD WOULD CALL A SPECIAL MEETING TO PUSH A CENSURE OF REGISTRAR OF VOTERS CLINT CURTIS, JUST WEEKS BEFORE THE JUNE ELECTION. THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE. AND LOOKS LIKE A BLATANT POLITICAL HIT JOB. I HAVE SPENT DOZENS OF HOURS AS A POLL WORKER AND ELECTION OBSERVER UNDER THE PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION, WITH JOANNA, THE STAFF MEMBERS, AND DRIVING THESE COMPLAINTS AGAINST MR. AGAINST MR. CURTIS ARE THE EXACT SAME STAFF. I PERSONALLY WITNESSED BLOCKING TRANSPARENCY AND COMMITTING HIGHLY QUESTIONABLE, EVEN ILLEGAL ACTS. I WATCHED THEM LOOK LOCK OBSERVERS OUT OF SIGNATURE VERIFICATION FORCE US TO USE TINY, DISTANT SCREENS IN DIRECT VIOLATION OF ELECTION CODE 15104 AND RUSHED [01:05:04] THROUGH BALLOTS, EVEN APPROVING ONES WITH NO SIGNATURE. WHY WAS THERE NO INVESTIGATION IN THE HEAPS OF ABUSE DONE TO ELECTION OBSERVERS YEAR AFTER YEAR UNDER JOANNA? ON DECEMBER 3RD, 2024, I SAW STAFF FALSIFYING NUMBERS ON OFFICIAL LOGS, THEN WORK FOR HOURS WITH NO OBSERVERS PRESENT BEFORE CERTIFYING THE ELECTION. THESE ARE THE VERY SAME STAFF NOW BEFORE US. THESE ARE THE VERY SAME STAFF ACCUSING MR. CURTIS. THEIR COMPLAINTS ARE PURE RETALIATION. THIS INTERNAL INVESTIGATION WAS AN INSIDE JOB. THE TIMING IS OUTRAGEOUS. THE PROCESS ITSELF IS THE PUNISHMENT. I DEMAND THE BOARD IMMEDIATELY WITHDRAW THIS ITEM OR DEFER ALL ACTIONS UNTIL AFTER THE ELECTION AND HIRE A TRULY INDEPENDENT OUTSIDE INVESTIGATOR. WE DESERVE SECURE, OBSERVABLE ELECTION. DANA, FOLLOWED BY JIM BURNETT. DANA, COME ON UP. FOLLOWED BY JIM BURNETT, LAURA HOBBS, THEN GARY OXLEY. IF I CALLED YOUR NAME, PLEASE GET IN QUEUE. GOOD MORNING, GOOD MORNING, GOOD MORNING. THIS IS EXHAUSTING. THIS IS A LEVEL OF CHAOS THAT JUST GOES BEYOND ALL OF US. WHERE ON EARTH DID ALL THIS COME FROM? WE DIDN'T HEAR ANY SUCH THINGS WHEN TOM TOLLER WALKED IN THE DOOR OF OUR REGISTRAR'S OFFICE. NONE OF THIS OCCURRED, AND YET HE HAD BEEN PUT IN THERE SPECIFICALLY TO FIND FRAUD. WHAT IN THE WORLD IS GOING ON HERE? MY FAITH AND TRUST IN AN ELECTION THAT'S COMING UP IN ONLY ONE MONTH IS WANING RAPIDLY. I'M SORRY YOU HAVE TO DEAL WITH THIS, I TRULY AM. I'M SORRY THAT WE ALL DO. I HOPE YOU WILL CAREFULLY CONSIDER THIS. NONE OF US, NOT ONE OF US IN THE PUBLIC, KNOWS TRULY WHAT'S GONE ON HERE. BUT YOU HAVE MONICA FUGITT RECOMMENDING A BOSS BE REMOVED AND SEPARATED FROM HIS STAFF. I THINK THAT'S PRETTY GOOD INDICATION WE HAVE A PROBLEM. IF WE CAN'T DO THAT, SHE RECOMMENDS SUPERVISION. HAVE WE REALLY REACHED THIS POINT? AND WE HAVE AN ELECTION IN A MONTH? THAT MEANS EVERYTHING TO US. THIS IS THE ESSENCE OF DEMOCRACY. PLEASE DO YOUR BEST WITH THIS DECISION. WE'LL TRY TO SUPPORT IT. NEXT UP, JIM BURNETT, FOLLOWED BY LAURA HOBBS, GARY OXLEY, JOYCE LIVELY. IF I CALLED YOUR NAME, PLEASE GET IN QUEUE. GOOD MORNING. TODAY'S PROCEEDINGS ARE UPSETTING, BUT THEY'RE NOT SURPRISING. IT'S COMMON KNOWLEDGE. WHEN CLINT CURTIS WAS APPOINTED ROV, THE ELECTION STAFF WERE EXTREMELY DISAPPOINTED AND UPSET BECAUSE THEY ARE FIERCELY LOYAL TO JOANNA. THIS, TOO, IS NOT SURPRISING BECAUSE EVERY ONE OF US HAVE PROBABLY HAD SIMILAR EXPERIENCES IN THE WORKPLACE. I'M SURE MANY THOUGHT ABOUT TRANSFERRING TO ANOTHER COUNTY DEPARTMENT. HOWEVER, MOST EMPLOYEES DECIDED TO STAY ON THE JOB, AND IN MY OPINION, THEIR MOTIVE WAS TO RESIST, IMPEDE, SLOW WALK, AND SABOTAGE. CLINT'S EFFORTS TO REFORM THE SYSTEM AND THE UNION PROTECTION MAKES IT VERY HARD TO SUPERVISE STAFF IN THE FACE OF A OF A STAFF THAT DOES NOT WANT TO OBEY. SO IN MY OPINION, THERE ARE TWO KEY PLAYERS ON THE DAIS WHO ARE BEHIND THIS. THE FIRST ONE IS MR. LARMORE, WHO HAS SHOWN HIMSELF TO BE AGAINST ELECTION REFORM. FIRST OF ALL, FROM SUING THE SHASTA FIVE AND FAILING TO WRITE A SUMMARY FOR OUR INITIATIVE. AND THEN MOST RECENTLY, IN FEBRUARY 2026, WHEN AN ANONYMOUS PERSON BROUGHT SUIT AGAINST THE COUNTY, CLINT CURTIS AND THE SHASTA FIVE, AND IT WAS THE BOARD'S DECISION NOT TO PROVIDE ANY DEFENSE FOR ANY OF US. THE SECOND ON THE DAIS IS SUPERVISOR LONG HIMSELF, WHO HAS LONG BEEN AN OUTSPOKEN CRITIC OF ELECTION REFORM AND ESPECIALLY AGAINST CLINT CURTIS. THOSE TWO HAVE COMBINED TO BRING US TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY. AND I'D SAY WE HAVE A CLASSIC CASE OF PROJECTION, BECAUSE ITEM B THREE OF SECTION 22 SAYS GRATUITOUS SABOTAGE AND UNDERMINING OF A PERSON'S WORK PERFORMANCE OR INTENTIONAL INTERFERENCE DESCRIBES WHAT THE STAFF HAS DONE TO MR. CURTIS. THANK YOU. NEXT UP, LAURA HOBBS, FOLLOWED BY GARY OXLEY. JOYCE LIVELY, THEN ANTONIA. IF I CALLED YOUR NAME, PLEASE GET IN QUEUE. CLINT CURTIS IS ONE OF THE MOST JOVIAL BOSSES I HAVE EVER HAD. [01:10:01] HE'S ALWAYS IN A GOOD MOOD, EVEN WHEN BY ALL ACCOUNTS, HE SHOULD NOT BE. HE'S CRACKING JOKES AND CONSTANTLY USING HIS SELF-DEPRECATING SENSE OF HUMOR. THE LEVEL OF OBSTRUCTION AND CYNICISM HE HAS FACED BY THE ENTRENCHED BUREAUCRATS IN THAT OFFICE IS MADDENING. YET HE HANDLES IT WITH A SMILE. I HAVE WITNESSED FIRST HAND INSUBORDINATION AND INTENTIONAL DERELICTION OF DUTY BY THESE COUNTY EMPLOYEES WHO, IF IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR, WOULD HAVE BEEN FIRED A LONG TIME AGO. THEY CLOCK IN LATE AND LEAVE EARLY. THEY REFUSE EVEN SIMPLE HELLO TO THEIR COWORKERS WHO THEY DISAGREE WITH POLITICALLY. I WAS A KEY WITNESS TO THE ALLEGED EVENT REFERENCED IN R ONE. WHAT I SAW WAS AN ELECTION MANAGER WHO PREVIOUSLY USED TAXPAYER MONEY TO HIRE A PRIVATE GUARD TO GUARD HER WHILE SHE WORKED BEHIND A LOCKED DOOR AND A LOCKED GATE DURING THE NOVEMBER ELECTION. SHE, IN THIS INCIDENT, WAS DISOBEYING A REQUEST BY HER BOSS AND BARRICADED HERSELF BEHIND A LOCKED DOOR IN HER OFFICE, REFUSING TO ANSWER BECAUSE SHE DID NOT WANT TO TEACH ME HOW TO RUN A REPORT THAT CLINTON HAD REQUESTED. CLINTON SAID THAT HE WOULD HAVE TO MOVE HER INTO A CUBICLE, AND SHE WOULD NO LONGER BE GIVEN A PRIVATE OFFICE. HE THEN SAID THAT HE WAS CALLING PERSONNEL TO COME GET HER OUT OF HER OFFICE. I WITNESSED THIS ALL THE ALLEGATIONS OF PHYSICAL VIOLENCE ARE ABSOLUTE LIE. WHAT THIS INDIVIDUAL WAS CONSPIRING TO DO WAS TO MAKE A REPORT WITH FALSE ALLEGATION TO CAUSE MAXIMUM DAMAGE TO CLINT CURTIS IN THE IN HIS CAMPAIGN. THIS IS A BLATANT CHARACTER ASSASSINATION BECAUSE THESE EMPLOYEES WANT TO GET HIS OPPONENT BACK IN OFFICE. I'M REALLY SKEPTICAL ABOUT THE TIMING OF THIS. THE WHOLE SCENARIO REEKS OF A MADE UP, DIRTY CAMPAIGN TACTIC BY JOSEPH LARMOR AND OTHERS IN THE GARY OXLEY, FOLLOWED BY JOYCE LIVELY, ANTONIA, THEN BRAD. IF I CALLED YOUR NAME, PLEASE GET IN QUEUE. GOOD MORNING SUPERVISORS. UNFORTUNATELY, AS A LEADER IN HEALTH CARE, I'VE HAD TO WORK IN A SIMILAR ENVIRONMENTS ON A COUPLE OF OCCASIONS DURING MY 32 YEAR CAREER THAT THE ROV CURRENTLY WORKS IN. BASED ON MY EXPERIENCE AND HOW I LED, I'D LIKE TO SUGGEST THE FOLLOWING. IF I WAS SITTING WHERE YOU ARE TODAY, I'D BE VERY CONCERNED THAT I HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION NEEDED TO MAKE THE BEST DECISION POSSIBLE. I'D ENCOURAGE YOU TO NOT MAKE A DECISION WHEN TEMPERS AND EMOTIONS ARE HEIGHTENED. CENTER OR NOT, CENTERING WILL DRAW CRITICISM FROM ONE SIDE OR THE OTHER. I ENCOURAGE YOU, GENTLEMEN TO NOT MAKE A HASTY DECISION. I ENCOURAGE YOU TO TABLE THIS ISSUE IF NEEDED TO ENSURE THAT YOU ARE MAKING THE RIGHT DECISION. I ENCOURAGE YOU IF YOU ARE IF YOU DO NOT CENSURE HIM, THAT YOU TAKE EXTRAORDINARY MEASURES IN THE MEDIA TO ENSURE THAT THE ELECTORATE ARE NOT SWAYED BY HEATED EMOTIONAL RHETORIC. THANK YOU. NEXT UP, JOYCE LIVELY, FOLLOWED BY ANTONIA, BRAD, THEN MAX WALTER. IF I CALLED YOUR NAME, PLEASE GET IN QUEUE. MY NAME IS JOYCE LIVELY, AND I'M HERE TO COMMENT ON THE CENSURE OF CLINT CURTIS. THAT IS BEFORE YOU. FOR FULL DISCLOSURE, MR. CURTIS AND I HAVE A DISAGREEMENT AT PRESENT. I REQUEST THE BOARD CENSURE MR. CURTIS. THERE'S A COMMON DENOMINATOR IN HIS BEHAVIOR. BULLYING TOWARDS WOMEN. I CAN ONLY SPEAK TO HIS AND HIS ASSISTANTS, BRANT TURNER'S TREATMENT OF ME AND OTHERS AS A POTENTIAL POLL WORKER. I WAS DISMISSED BY HIM DURING TRAINING ON APRIL 16TH OF THIS YEAR. HE BROUGHT UP A POLITICAL ISSUE IN RIVERSIDE COUNTY THAT HE IS PERSONALLY INVOLVED IN. I OBJECTED WHEN HE DISMISSED ME, I FOUND HIS BEHAVIOR CONDESCENDING AS HE SMILED AND SAID, YOU ARE DISMISSED TWICE. IN AN INTERVIEW WITH THE RECORD SEARCHLIGHT PUBLISHED ON APRIL 21ST. HE REFERRED TO ME AS HAVING A BAD ATTITUDE, WANTING TO CONTROL THE MEETING, WANTING TO DISRUPT THE MEETING FROM THE BEGINNING. THINGS OFTEN SAID ABOUT WOMEN. I NEVER KNEW HE WAS DOING THE TRAINING, NOR EVER IMAGINED THAT HE WOULD BRING UP A POLITICAL ISSUE. ANOTHER POLL WORKER WAS DISMISSED AT THE SAME TIME, HE CLAIMED, WE CAME TOGETHER. WE NEVER MET BEFORE. WE NEVER MET BEFORE. WE WERE OUTSIDE, OUTSIDE OF THE MEETING. I AM NOT SURE WHY HE SAID THAT THERE COULD BE NO COLLUSION ON OUR ON OUR EXPERIENCES. ON APRIL 18TH, SHASTA COUNTY SHASTA SKOUT REPORTED THAT MR. TURNER SAID HE WAS NOT AT THE TRAINING BUT TALKED TO HIS BOSS, CLINT CURTIS. MR. TURNER SAID OF ME, I WAS A LITTLE AGGRESSIVE, I WAS DISRUPTIVE, I WAS UPSET ABOUT MANUAL POLE WORK PADS, WHICH I NEVER DISCUSSED WITH ANYTHING ANYONE. IN ADDITION, THE SCOUT REPORTED A WOMAN WHO ATTENDED A SUBSEQUENT TRAINING WHERE SHE FOUND MR. CURTIS FLIPPANT REGARDING ELIMINATION OF DROP BOXES ON MARCH 25TH, 2025. THE LOS ANGELES TIMES REPORTED THAT MR. CURTIS SAID THAT HE DID NOT TRUST BALLOTS IN THE HANDS OF LITTLE OLD LADIES RUNNING ALL [01:15:02] OVER. NEXT UP, ANTONIA, FOLLOWED BY BRAD, MAX, WALTER, THEN PATTY PLUM. IF I CALLED YOUR NAME, PLEASE GET IN QUEUE. GOOD MORNING, BOARD AND PEOPLE OF SHASTA COUNTY. THIS CENTURY OF CLINT CURTIS IS BASED ON ALL LIES. ALL LIES. PLACING THIS ITEM ON THE AGENDA JUST WEEKS BEFORE THE JUNE ELECTION CREATES APPEARANCE OF POLITICAL INTERFERENCE. AND YOU BOARD OF SUPERVISORS DID NOT INVESTIGATE FOR YOURSELVES THAT IS BEING UNFAITHFUL AND UNJUST TO THE PERSON YOU APPOINTED. YOU ARE NOT PROTECTING YOUR OWN. QUIET! SHAME ON YOU! STOP YELLING OUT FROM THE CROWD! THE PEOPLE OF SHASTA COUNTY DESERVE TO KNOW WHO PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA. YOU BROUGHT THIS OUT FOR US TO HEAR. SO PLEASE. WHO PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA? I WANT A NAME. PLEASE. THIS IS YOUR TIME. OKAY, I WANT A NAME. WHO PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA? WE DESERVE TO KNOW. THE PEOPLE OF SHASTA COUNTY DESERVE TO KNOW. OKAY, SO IT WAS LAMAR. THIS IS YOUR TIME TO TALK. I WANT TO KNOW. YOU NEED TO GIVE ME A NAME. NO, ACTUALLY I DON'T. YES. SO IT'S EITHER LONG OR LAMAR. WE KNOW WHO YOU'RE PROTECTING. OKAY, FINE. OKAY. SHAME ON YOU. THE PEOPLE OF SHASTA COUNTY. OKAY. SO, PLEASE. I WORK FOR CLINT. THE LAST ELECTION, I WITNESSED THREE OF THE COUNTY WORKERS SAYING THAT THEY WERE NOT GOING TO DO AS HE ASKED. SO THERE. THERE'S PROOF RIGHT THERE. AND THAT IS SUBORDINATION. THEY ARE TRYING TO SABOTAGE HIM. BRAD. FOLLOWED BY MAX. WALTER. PATTY PLUM, THEN GARY. IF I CALLED YOUR NAME, PLEASE GET IN QUEUE. THIS SHOULD BE A FIVE ZERO VOTE TO CENSURE. DO CONDEMN. DO NOT CONDONE MISCONDUCT. RELEASE THE CURTIS FILES. REDACT THE NAME OF THE WHISTLEBLOWERS. CURTIS, DUE TO APPOINTMENT, IS AN ELECTED OFFICIAL, NOT AN EMPLOYEE. CONFIDENTIALITY RULES DO NOT APPLY. RECAP REQUEST CURTIS RESIGN BEFORE HE CREATES ADDITIONAL LEGAL AND FINANCIAL LIABILITY FOR SHASTA COUNTY TAXPAYERS. RELEASE THE FILES BEFORE THE BALLOTS ARE MAILED. VOTERS NEED TO KNOW EXACTLY WHAT HE HAS DONE. IT'S CALLED TRANSPARENCY. KEVIN, YOU HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET IT RIGHT TWO TIMES. YOU BLEW IT BOTH TIMES. THIS IS A CATASTROPHE. PUT ON YOUR BIG BOY PANTS AND DO THE RIGHT THING. CENSURE CURTIS FIVE ZERO. YOU HAVE MADE A COMPLETE MESS OF THE ELECTION OFFICE. A HOT MESS, AND THAT'S ALL ON YOU, KEVIN. YOU DID THIS. YOU HAD THE CHANCE. THIS IS THE ONE PERSON OUT OF 340 MILLION AMERICANS. YOU THOUGHT THIS GUY FROM FLORIDA WAS THE GUY THAT COULD RUN OUR ELECTIONS, AND HE'S DONE NOTHING BUT SOW DISTRUST, AND HE'S BROUGHT POLITICS INTO THE ELECTIONS OFFICE. WE NEED A NONPARTISAN ROV, SOMEONE THAT CHECKS THEIR POLITICS AT THE DOOR LIKE YOU APPARENTLY CANNOT DO. SO GET RID OF HIM. CENSURE HIM. AND, BOY, I JUST I SEE A LOT OF LAWSUITS COMING. THIS IS GOING TO BE COSTLY. THIS IS GOING TO BE ANOTHER ONE OF YOUR COSTLY LAWSUITS THAT YOU'VE CREATED. NEXT UP, MAX WALTER, FOLLOWED BY PATTY PLUM, GARY, AND THEN FREE RENT. THIS ALL SEEMS LIKE A NATURAL OCCURRENCE OF NOT CENSURING EARLIER. LIKE A PETULANT CHILD WHO RECEIVES NO DISCIPLINE OR REDIRECTION. HE SAYS THERE'S NO BASIS IN THIS AT ALL. IN THE ALLEGATIONS. THAT STATEMENT CONFLICTS WITH THE DEFINITION OF SUBSTANTIATED CLAIMS. THIS PUBLIC SERVICE POSITIONS SHOULD EXUDE PROFESSIONALISM AND CHARACTER. AND WE GOT A FULL FRONTAL OF THAT RIGHT OUT OF THE GATE, SHIRTLESS IN A COUNTY OFFICE TRYING TO MOVE A SAFE. AND WE ALL SAW THE PING PONG BALL FIASCO TWICE IN RIVERSIDE. HE CALLS THE PEOPLE HE WORKS FOR MORONS, IDIOTS, MY LITTLE SOCIALISTS. AND NOW HE THREATENS DEFAMATION LAWSUITS. [01:20:05] AND FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, HE SUED 12 INDIVIDUALS OR COUNTY ORGANIZATIONS. AN AMBULANCE CHASER THAT USED TO BE NEVER A VIRTUE TO BE CALLED AN AMBULANCE CHASER. TO ME, HE IS OUR AMBULANCE CHASER. THE MAJORITY OF THIS BOARD HIRED HIM KNOWING THAT HE HAD NOT ONE HOUR'S EXPERIENCE IN RUNNING ELECTIONS. MOST PEOPLE DON'T APPLY FOR JOBS THEY HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO EXPERIENCE FOR. HE WAS HIRED ONLY BECAUSE OF THE BIG LIE. I URGE YOU TO REIN HIM IN. CENSURE HIM. FOLLOW THE SUBSTANTIATED CLAIMS. IT'S THE OPPOSITE OF UNSUBSTANTIATED CLAIMS. THANK YOU. PATTY PLUMB, FOLLOWED BY GARY. FREE RENT. THEN ELIZABETH RAINEY. GOOD MORNING, PATTY PLUMB. I WOULDN'T WANT TO MISS THIS OPPORTUNITY TO INFORM AND EDUCATE YOU ALL AND ENCOURAGE OUR COMMUNITY. IT'S VERY FRUSTRATING THAT IT'S COME TO THIS, BUT HERE WE ARE. SO AS IN THE PAST, I'M NOT SPEAKING AS AN ELECTION COMMISSIONER, BUT I CAN SAY I AM SPEAKING AS A FULL TIME EMPLOYEE OF THE SHASTA COUNTY ELECTION OFFICE. I DID NOT SLIDE INTO MY CURRENT POSITION ON THE WATER SLIDE. I'M HERE ON PURPOSE, AND I WANT TO WORK TOGETHER WITH THE TEAM OF ELECTION WORKERS, WHETHER NEW OR SEASONED EMPLOYEES, TO SERVE THE CITIZENS OF SHASTA COUNTY AND PROVIDE A COMMON SENSE, LEGITIMATE ELECTION. WE, THE PEOPLE, CAN TRUST AND BE PROUD OF. OVER THE PAST SIX YEARS, I HAVE MET HAD MANY MEETINGS WITH KATHY, JOANNA, TOM TOLLER, MARY, PAUL AND OTHERS, BUT HAVE DILIGENTLY PURSUED MEETINGS WITH ONE PERSON I WAS TOLD, WHO WAS IN CHARGE OF THE POLL WORKERS AND WHO WORK AT THE PRECINCTS, AND THAT'S JENNY WHEATON. I BELIEVED AT THAT TIME, AND I STILL DO TODAY, THAT THE VOTING AT OUR PRECINCTS WOULD AGAIN BE OUR FUTURE AND FOCUS TO ENSURE A FREE AND FAIR ELECTION. MY EFFORTS TO MEET WITH JENNY WERE REFUSED TIME AND TIME AGAIN UNTIL ENCOUNTERS WITH HER BECAME HIGHLY ADVERSARIAL AND EVEN PHYSICALLY AGGRESSIVE. MY HOPE, WHEN HIRED AT THE ELECTION OFFICE WAS TO WORK TOGETHER AS A TEAM, BUT THIS HOPE WAS ABRUPTLY HIT WITH THE REALITY OF DEEP DISDAIN CONFIRMED BY A HOSTILE WORK ENVIRONMENT FILLED WITH INTIMIDATION, ANGRY OUTBURSTS AND RAGE AND AGGRESSION BY JANET. JOHN BAKER AND OTHERS INSIDE AND OUTSIDE THE ELECTION OFFICE. THE HOSTILE ENVIRONMENT WAS NOT CREATED BY CLINT CURTIS, BUT IN MY OPINION, BY THE THREE CURRENT MANAGERS WHO I HAVE WITNESSED AND OBSERVED THEIR CONTINUOUS DISRESPECT AND INSUBORDINATION TO HIS LEADERSHIP. EVEN WITH THIS MEETING TODAY. POLL WORKER TRAINING HAD TO BE CANCELED, ALONG WITH MANY OTHER DISTRACTIONS AND OBSTACLES PLACED IN OUR PATH AS WE PREPARE FOR THE JUNE 2ND PRIMARY ELECTION. IT WILL SOON BE DETERMINED IF THESE VARIOUS EFFORTS TO THWART OUR WORK WAS INTENTIONAL SABOTAGE OR ELECTION INTERFERENCE. ACCORDING TO ELECTION CODE 18502 B, WHICH CARRIES GREAT PENALTIES FOR THOSE WHO ARE INVOLVED IF FOUND TO BE GUILTY, I LEAVE YOU WITH THIS CHALLENGE TO CARRY, FOLLOWED BY FREE RENT. ELIZABETH RAINEY THEN MICHELLE, IF I CALLED YOUR NAME, PLEASE GET IN QUEUE. GARY, COME ON UP. BOARD, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO YOU TODAY. WHEN MISS FUGITT FIRST MADE HER REPORT. IT WAS ALARMING TO ME, AND I CONSIDERED PULLING MY MY STATEMENTS HERE. BUT AFTER HEARING PEOPLE, SOME OF WHOM I TRUST IMPLICITLY, LIKE PATTI AND RON PLUMB AND OTHERS I BELIEVE THAT THERE IS REASONABLE EVIDENCE OF EXPECTATION OF A A RESISTANCE TO WHAT MR. CURTIS IS TRYING TO DO. AND I BELIEVE THAT YOU DO NEED TO TAKE DUE DILIGENCE AS DOMINIC SAID, AND THE TIMING IS REALLY THE CONCERN HERE, AND IT'S RIGHT BEFORE AN ELECTION. AND I BELIEVE THAT IT'S INCUMBENT UPON YOU TO NOT INTERFERE WITH THAT ELECTION AND TO TAKE IF YOU NEED TO DELAY THIS EVEN FOR A WEEK, WHATEVER IT IS, CENSURING TODAY WOULD BE TOTALLY INAPPROPRIATE BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN ENOUGH TESTIMONY HERE TO CAST DOUBT ON THE EVIDENCE THAT WAS GIVEN TO MRS FUGITT. SHE ONLY CAN GO ON WHAT SHE HEARS PEOPLE SAY. AND IF THERE IS A CONCERTED EFFORT TO OPPOSE WHAT CLINT CURTIS IS TRYING TO DO, THEN IT'S REASONABLE TO BELIEVE THAT SHE COULD HAVE BEEN MISLED. AND I FOUND IT LAUGHABLE THAT JOANNA FRANCESCA CLAIMED TO RUN AN ACCURATE ELECTION BECAUSE THERE WERE OVER 2000 EXCESS BALLOTS IN THE ELECTION THAT SHE OVERSAW. LET'S STOP YELLING OUT AND INTERRUPTING THE MEETING. THAT'S YOUR ONE WARNING. AND MR. CURTIS HAD ZERO DISCREPANCIES, AND I APPRECIATE THAT ABOUT HIM AND HIS [01:25:03] SERVICE TO THE COUNTY. THANK YOU. NEXT UP, FREE RENT, FOLLOWED BY ELIZABETH RAINEY. MICHELLE, THEN MARY RICKERT. IF I CALLED YOUR NAME, PLEASE GET IN QUEUE. SO WHAT IS A SENSOR? IT'S A SLAP ON THE WRIST. AND YOU SAY, DON'T DO THAT ANYMORE. WHY WASN'T JOANNA AND CATHY DARLING ALLEN CENSORED WHEN THEY LIED TO THE SUPERVISORS UP HERE ABOUT THE LOAN THAT THEY DIDN'T GET TO RECEIVE? THERE'S BEEN THERE'S BEEN MANY OPPORTUNITIES TO CENSOR AND YOU JUST LET IT BLOW BY. I HAD JOANNA ON POKE THE HORNET'S NEST SUNDAY, AND SHE WAS LESS THAN HONEST WITH US ABOUT MORE THAN A FEW THINGS. SHE TOOK CREDIT FOR ALL OF THE GOOD THINGS THAT THE TRANSPARENCY THAT CLINT INSTITUTED FOR THE LAST ELECTION. IN FACT, SHE TOOK CREDIT FOR EVERYTHING. SO TOMORROW ON POKE THE HORNET'S NEST MOUNTAIN TOP MEDIA, WE'RE GOING TO REFUTE A FEW OF THOSE. AND THEN SUNDAY ON MOUNTAIN ON K MS POKED A HORNET'S NEST. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE CLINT ON AND WE'RE GOING TO REFUTE SOME MORE. I'M TRYING TO GET KEVIN'S SPOT IN THE MORNING. LET'S STAY ON OUR ONE. NICK, STAY ON OUR ONE. YES. ANSWER ME. WHY DON'T YOU? YOU KNOW, I CHANGED MY NAME TO RENT FREE BECAUSE I'M LIVING IN THEIR HEADS RENT FREE. IT'S ACTUALLY KIND OF COMICAL. SO, YOU KNOW, WE WE GOT CLINT CURTIS HERE BECAUSE WE WANTED CHANGE IN OUR ELECTIONS. THE EMPLOYEES THAT WERE THERE, THEY WERE COMFORTABLE AND THEY DON'T WANT TO CHANGE. AND WHEN HE LETS THEM GO, ISN'T THAT WHAT A BOSS DOES? WHEN YOUR EMPLOYEES START WORKING AGAINST YOU AND DISRUPTING YOU, FIRE THEM. THAT'S WHAT A BOSS DOES. CLINT HAS DONE A WONDERFUL JOB. AND THIS SENSOR, YOU KNOW, EVEN IF YOU DON'T, IT'S ALREADY DONE ITS DAMAGE. IT'S A SHAME IT WAS EVEN BROUGHT UP. THANK YOU. NEXT UP, ELIZABETH RAINEY, FOLLOWED BY MICHELLE MARY RICKERT, THEN NELDA JOHNSON, IF I CALLED YOUR NAME, PLEASE GET IN QUEUE. HI, MARY. HI. I'M ELIZABETH, AND I'M JUST UP HERE TO SAY THAT I DID WORK THE LAST ELECTION, AND I I DIDN'T SEE AS MUCH AS WHAT PEOPLE ARE SAYING THAT THERE WAS A LOT OF NEGATIVITY INTO IN THE OFFICE OTHER THAN SOME OF THE REGULAR WORKERS WERE DEFINITELY, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE BIT HESITANT ON NEW PROCEDURES, BUT OTHER THAN THAT, WE REALLY GOT ALONG VERY WELL. AND I ACTUALLY JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I'M YOUR LITTLE OLD LADY THAT'S GOING TO BE PICKING UP YOUR BALLOTS FROM THE BALLOT BOX. AND YOU KNOW, I DON'T REALLY CONSIDER MYSELF AN OLD OR OLD LADY. ALTHOUGH MAYBE SOME PEOPLE DO, YOU KNOW. BUT I WAS ACTUALLY HIRED BY ANNA, WHO HAS WORKED THERE FOR QUITE SOME TIME, AND I'M GOING TO BE STARTING SOON. SO I KIND OF FIND THIS REALLY A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE MAKING ACCUSATIONS, AND I NEVER SAW THEM ONCE AT THE ELECTION OFFICE. AND I JUST FIND THAT REALLY AMAZING THAT YOU CAN MAKE A LOT OF ACCUSATIONS WHEN YOU YOU WEREN'T EVEN THERE OR YOU DIDN'T EVEN WORK THERE. SO THAT'S REALLY ALL I HAVE TO SAY. BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MICHELLE. IS MICHELLE HERE NOT SEEING MICHELLE? OH, HI. GOOD MORNING. I LIKE CAROL. THIS IS DIFFICULT FOR ME TO SAY. WHEN I CAME HERE TO SHASTA COUNTY, I HAD ALREADY SEEN WHAT HAPPENED IN SANTA CLARA WITH SOME OF THE VOTING AND THE MONEY THAT BUYS THE MACHINES. AND THE FIRST THING I HEARD WAS THAT THE BOARD WAS NOT TOLD THAT WHEN THEY DIDN'T WANT THE CONTRACT THAT CAME FROM, I BELIEVE ZUCKERBERG'S MONEY WAS CHANGED WITHOUT TELLING THE BOARD BY JOANNA. I HAVE NEVER SPOKEN TO JOANNA. I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING PERSONAL AGAINST HER. BUT THAT ALONE I FELT SO APPALLED. BUT NOT JUST APPALLED. FRIGHTENED BY THAT. YOU GOT TO GET IT TO R1. THIS IS ABOUT THE CENSURE. OKAY, THIS I'M THIS IS MY EXPERIENCE IN THE VOTING FOR THE CENSURE. SO THAT WAS MY EXPERIENCE COMING TO THIS. THEN THERE WAS ANOTHER THING ABOUT GETTING A ON SOMEONE STICK TO R1. OKAY, A SUMMARY. I WENT INTO THE VOTING THING. [01:30:02] LAURA WAS THERE WITH SOME PEOPLE. SHE ASKED JOANNA SEVERAL TIMES. HAD ASKED JOANNA SEVERAL TIMES FOR THE SUMMARY. WHEN SHE DIDN'T COULDN'T WOULDN'T PROVIDE IT FOR HER. SHE TOLD LAURA FACTS RAISED HER VOICE. THEN GET YOURSELF. THIS IS ABOUT CLINT CURTIS IN OUR ONE. GET YOURSELF AN ATTORNEY. SO THAT'S MY EXPERIENCE FROM THE PREVIOUS BOARD. I MEAN, FROM THE PREVIOUS PEOPLE THIS TIME. I WENT INTO THE OFFICE AND I SAID, I HEARD YOU COULD SEE THE CHANGES. THEY WENT PERSONALLY AND GOT CLINT. HE CAME OVER, TOOK ME THROUGH AND SHOWED THE CAMERAS. AND THEN I LEFT. THAT WAS MY JUST AS A CITIZEN I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING AGAINST ANY OF THE PEOPLE. I SEE THE PEOPLE THAT ARE TRYING TO DO REFORM FOR ELECTIONS AS GOOD, HARD, HONEST PEOPLE. I ASKED LAURA, WHY ARE YOU GOING THROUGH ALL OF THIS? NEXT UP, MARY RICKERT, FOLLOWED BY NELDA JOHNSON, LESLIE, THEN PATRICK JONES. IF I CALLED YOUR NAME, PLEASE GET IN QUEUE. GOOD MORNING, GENTLEMEN. WELL, I SAY YOU HAVE QUITE THE CONUNDRUM ON YOUR HANDS. IF YOU DO NOT CENSURE MR. CURTIS. YOU WILL BE IN DERELICTION OF YOUR DUTIES AS SUPERVISORS. HOWEVER, IF YOU DO CENSURE MR. CURTIS, THEN I ASK, WHY DID YOU NOT CENSOR EACH OTHER WHILE TIM GORMAN AND I WERE SUPERVISORS? MR. CURTIS HAS JUST BEEN FOLLOWING YOUR LEAD. CERTAINLY. YOU REMEMBER THE MANY TIMES YOU CALLED US VICIOUS NAMES AND HOW YOU WOULD LOSE YOUR TEMPERS WITH US, JUST LIKE MR. CURTIS HAS BEEN FOUND TO DO MORE THAN ONCE. I WAS CONCERNED FOR OUR PHYSICAL SAFETY, SIMILAR TO WHAT'S HAPPENING NOW. WE ALL KNOW MR. CURTIS IS A POLITICAL PLANT FROM THE NATIONAL PLATFORM. SO HAVE FUN WITH THIS ONE. YOU DID APPOINT MR. CURTIS, MR. CRYE, MR. KELSTROM AND MR. HARMON. YOU OWN THIS MESS. YOU'VE CREATED THIS CULTURE AND IT'S ON YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT UP, NELDA JOHNSON, FOLLOWED BY LESLIE PATRICK JONES, THEN TERRY. IF I CALLED YOUR NAME, PLEASE GET IN QUEUE. SUPERVISOR. VICE CHAIR. KELSTROM. I FIRST WANT IT ON RECORD THAT I'M HERE ON MY OWN TIME. LEAVE WITHOUT PAY. I DO WORK AT THE ELECTIONS OFFICE. I'VE BEEN THERE ABOUT THREE MONTHS, AND ALL I'M GOING TO ADDRESS IS MY OBSERVATIONS. I THINK THIS IS A WITCH HUNT. THERE'S REALLY WERE NO SPECIFICS. SO NOW I'VE HEARD A LOT MORE ABOUT WHAT HE'S BEING ACCUSED OF, BUT I HE I'VE NEVER SEEN HIM IN THE TIME I'VE KNOWN HIM EVER RAISE HIS VOICE. HE IS VERY JOVIAL. AND THE ONLY THING I'VE SEEN IS I WITNESSED THE SAME THING THAT OTHER PEOPLE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THE PAPER BEING THROWN, THE AGGRESSION TOWARDS OBSERVERS BY THE EMPLOYEE THEY MENTIONED. I ALSO HEARD THAT EMPLOYEE YELL AT ONE OF THE WORKERS AND TELL THEM TO GET OUT OF HER OFFICE. I HAVE NUMEROUS TIMES BEEN STONEWALLED TRYING TO DO MY JOB. THINGS HAVE COME MISSING OFF OF THE PROGRAMS THAT I'M SUPPOSED TO WORK ON. AND I'VE BEEN TOLD, OH, IT'S A TECHNICAL ISSUE. WELL, I DON'T KNOW. WHAT I'M SAYING IS, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I'VE WITNESSED, THAT IF IT WAS IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR, THOSE EMPLOYEES WOULD HAVE BEEN FIRED. SO WHAT I'M SAYING IS I REALLY DON'T THINK HE SHOULD BE CENSURED. HE HAS THE PATIENCE OF A SAINT. I'VE NEVER SEEN SUCH INSUBORDINATION OR DISRESPECT IN MY LIFE. THAT'S JUST MY OBSERVATIONS. THANKS FOR YOUR TIME. LESLIE. FOLLOWED BY PATRICK JONES, THEN TERRY. IF I CALLED YOUR NAME, PLEASE GET IN QUEUE. ALL RIGHT. SO IF KEVIN CRYE DERANGEMENT SYNDROME SPEECH DIDN'T TELL YOU THIS WAS A POLITICAL PLAY, I DON'T KNOW WHAT WILL. SO FOR THAT MATTER, I WENT AHEAD AND CROSSED OUT THE PART WHERE I TALKED ABOUT LONG'S INVOLVEMENT IN MARY RICKERT. I'LL LET HER COMMENT, SPEAK FOR HERSELF AND STAY OUT OF THE POLITICAL SIDES OF THIS. WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT IN CALIFORNIA, COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS DOES NOT HAVE THE POWER TO IMPOSE MEANINGFUL LEGAL OR OPERATIONAL CONSEQUENCES ON AN ELECTED OFFICIAL THROUGH CENSURE. THIS IS A POLITICAL PLAY RIGHT BEFORE AN ELECTION. THAT'S ALL IT IS. IF YOU LOOK AT SORRY, THEY ARE WANTING TO GET YOUR POLITICAL OPINION ON IT, WHICH WHEN YOU GOOGLE, WHAT IS A CENSORSHIP ON AN ELECTED OFFICIAL OR YOU PUT IT THROUGH GROCK, IT IS YOUR POLITICAL OPINION. THAT'S WHAT THEY WANT. THIS IS A MEDIA CIRCUS FOR A POLITICAL OPINION. THIS NEEDS TO STOP ON BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE, BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT THE KEVIN CRYE DERANGEMENT SYNDROME CAMP HERE TRYING TO CREATE SOMETHING BEFORE AN ELECTION, AND YOU'VE GOT THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ROOM TRYING TO PIN THIS AS SOME MALICIOUS THING ON COUNTY COUNCIL OR ONE OF YOU GUYS WHO IS OUT TO GET CLINT, WHATEVER. THIS IS NOT A CONSPIRACY THEORY WHERE SOMEBODY HERE IS OUT TO GET SOMEBODY. [01:35:04] IT IS AN HR COMPLAINT WAS FILED. IT WAS HER JOB TO BRING IT TO THE BOARD OR HER JOB TO BRING IT TO MR. RICKERT. MR. RICKERT, BRING IT TO THE BOARD. IF YOU LOOK AT THE PACKET, THAT'S WHAT IT IS. THE POLITICAL POSTURING NEEDS TO STOP ON BOTH SIDES. YOU NEED TO SEE IT FOR WHAT IT IS, WHICH IS POLITICAL THEATER. AND YOU NEED TO VOTE TO TAKE NO ACTION ON THIS BECAUSE YOUR CENSORSHIP MEANS NOTHING. AND HE OBVIOUSLY HAS AN AX TO GRIND BECAUSE HE'S TRIED THIS THREE TIMES. THANK YOU. NEXT UP, PATRICK JONES, FOLLOWED BY TERRY. KELLY. ALL RIGHT, CHRISTIAN, THAT IS YOUR LAST WARNING. I'LL HAVE YOU REMOVED IF YOU YELL OUT AGAIN. AS YOU KNOW, BOARD, I HAVE AN INTEREST IN ELECTIONS IN SHASTA COUNTY. I CAN TELL YOU I KNOW MOST OF THE PEOPLE IN THE ELECTIONS OFFICE, AND MOST OF THEM ARE GOOD HARD WORKERS, INCLUDING MY WIFE. HOWEVER, THERE ARE A FEW PEOPLE IN THAT OFFICE THAT ARE INSUBORDINATE THAT ARE TRYING TO TO DISRUPT THE CHANGES THAT CLINT CURTIS HAD MADE. THAT HAS MADE TO OUR ELECTION SYSTEMS, AND HE HAS BEEN ASKING FOR MONTHS TO HELP IN THAT AREA. OKAY. CAN WE THIS IS YOUR LAST WARNING. AND DON'T YELL OUT. SO WHILE THE VAST MAJORITY ARE HARD WORKERS, THERE ARE A FEW PEOPLE THAT DO PRESENT A PROBLEM TO HAVING A FAIR ELECTION. THAT IS OBVIOUS. I'M DISAPPOINTED TODAY THAT THIS HAS COME TO TO THIS MEETING, A SPECIAL MEETING RIGHT BEFORE THE BALLOTS GO OUT. IN INVESTIGATIONS, SOME INVESTIGATIONS NEVER HAPPEN. SOME INVESTIGATIONS IN THIS COUNTY ARE NOT DONE. THAT SHOULD BE DONE. SOME INVESTIGATIONS ARE DONE WITH SUSTAINED ALLEGATIONS THAT NEVER SEE THE LIGHT OF DAY. HOW MANY, MANY, SOME INVESTIGATIONS THAT ARE DONE IN THIS COUNTY THAT HAVE SUSTAINED ALLEGATIONS AND BOARD MEMBERS NO, SEE, NOT THE LIGHT OF DAY, BUT THIS ONE WAS FAST TRACKED, PUSHED FORWARD BEFORE THE PRIMARY ELECTION TO HURT CLINT CURTIS. JOE. DAVE. I'M ASHAMED. NEXT UP TERRY. CHAIR, THIS WILL BE OUR LAST SPEAKER. BEFORE I GET STARTED, CAN WE GET CLARIFICATION AS A GROUP OUT HERE BEFORE WE PUT MY TIME ON. YOUR TIME IS RUNNING, SIR, BECAUSE THE THING IS, IS THAT ON A REGULAR CALENDAR ITEM YOU DON'T HAVE, YOU. THIS IS NOT PUBLIC COMMENT. AND PEOPLE DO WANT TO KNOW WHO PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA. AND I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT. I THINK PROBABLY YOU GUYS VOTED FIVE TO NOTHING TO DO THIS. THAT'S WHAT I THINK THE OTHER THING IS, IS THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S SORT OF LIKE, I HAVEN'T COME HERE FOR A WHILE. AND THE REASON IS, IS THAT IT'S KIND OF LIKE BEING AN OAKLAND RAIDER FAN OR A LAS VEGAS RAIDER FAN IN 2025, JUST WHEN YOU THINK IT COULDN'T GET ANY WORSE. AND ALL THIS STUFF THAT'S GOING ON NOW, THE TIMING OF THIS IS VERY SUSPECT. WHY WOULD YOU DO IT AT THIS POINT? THE TIMING OF THIS IS. IT SEEMS AS IF EVERY TIME WE TURN AROUND, THERE'S ANOTHER CATASTROPHE, A CATASTROPHE WITH THIS BOARD EVERY TIME. YOU WON'T OWN UP TO WHO BROUGHT IT UP. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ALLEGATIONS EVEN ARE. WE'RE THE PUBLIC. YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO SERVE US. AND EVERYBODY'S IN THE DARK ON THIS THING. I THINK THIS HAS TO STOP. IN SHASTA COUNTY, WE TALK ABOUT TRANSPARENCY. I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE HAVE TO HAVE BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T HAD IT REALLY AND TRULY. WE NEED TO HAVE A SITUATION WHERE WE KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON. WE, THE PEOPLE WHO PAY YOU, YOU'RE THE PEOPLE WHO SERVE US. YET WE'RE IN THE DARK ON A LOT OF THINGS. THE ZUCKERBUCKS, THAT WAS A GOOD POINT. NOTHING HAPPENED THERE. THE IDEA OF STEPHANIE BRIDGETT USING HER STAFF, NOTHING DONE THERE. SO THE POINT IS, I KNOW IT'S A HARD ONE, CHRIS. THE THING IS, IS THAT REALLY AND TRULY, IT'S ABOUT TIME THAT WE START PULLING TOGETHER AS A COUNTY AND THIS STUFF DOESN'T HELP IT EITHER WAY. THE TIMING IS VERY SUSPECT, GENTLEMEN, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S EVEN ONE PARTICULAR PERSON TO BLAME HERE. OKAY. WE'RE GOING TO BRING THIS BACK TO BOARD DISCUSSION BEFORE I GET TO YOU. SUPERVISOR LONG. LET ME JUST SAY THIS. I MEAN, FIRST OF ALL, FOR EVERYBODY THAT'S SAYING, OH, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THIS IS ABOUT OR THIS IS NOT TRANSPARENT. WE JUST TOOK THE ATTORNEY CLIENT PRIVILEGE OFF ABOUT APPROXIMATELY 1000 PAGES OF REPORTS. SO WE WANT THAT INFORMATION TO GO OUT SO THAT YOU GUYS CAN SEE WHAT THIS IS ABOUT. THIS WAS NOT A THIS IS NOT A POLITICAL STUNT IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM. THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WE NEEDED TO ADDRESS. WE HAD TO ADDRESS IT. AGAIN, THOUSAND PAGES OF, OF, OF REPORTS THAT SUPERVISORS UP HERE WERE ABLE TO READ THESE REPORTS. WE HAD TO MAKE A DECISION BASED ON WHAT WE READ. NOW THAT ATTORNEY CLIENT PRIVILEGE HAS BEEN LIFTED, SO NOW THE REST OF THE PUBLIC WILL BE ABLE TO READ THOSE REPORTS AND SEE THE POSITION THAT WE WERE IN AND WHY THIS HAD TO COME HERE. AND WITH THAT BEING SAID, I WILL SAY THE TIMING IS ABSOLUTELY HORRIFIC. AND AND I PERSONALLY WILL NOT BE VOTING FOR CENSURE BECAUSE I THINK THAT WE NEED TO WE [01:40:01] NEED TO GET THE INFORMATION OUT TO THE PUBLIC SO THE REST OF THE PUBLIC CAN READ THIS AND SEE THIS. AND THEN WE NEED TO MAKE OUR DECISION. BUT RIGHT BEFORE THE BALLOTS COME OUT, THIS IS HORRIBLE TIMING. AND I, I DO NOT WANT TO BE SEEN AS IF WE'RE SOMEHOW AFFECTING AN ELECTION. THAT'S THE LAST THING I WANT TO DO. SUPERVISOR LONG. OH, MISS BLANKENSHIP, I'M SORRY. THANK YOU. CHAIR. JUST REGARDING THE FILES HERE TALKED ABOUT HERE TODAY. WE WILL BE MAKING THOSE FILES AVAILABLE IN THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICE AND ALSO ONLINE ELECTRONICALLY THROUGH NEXT REQUEST AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. FOR THOSE WISHING TO HAVE TO COME INTO OUR OFFICE IN PERSON, HARD COPIES WILL BE SUBJECT TO THE COUNTY'S COPY FEE. THANK YOU, MISS BLANKENSHIP. SUPERVISOR. THANK YOU CHAIR. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO. AND CHAIR KELSTROM JUST COVERED MUCH OF WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY. BUT IT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE EACH SUPERVISOR TO MY KNOWLEDGE WENT AND REVIEWED THESE FILES. THESE FILES WERE DONE BY TWO INVESTIGATORS. ONE WAS THE OPPENHEIMER GROUP, WHICH BEGAN THE INVESTIGATION IN AUGUST, AND THEY WERE DEALING WITH SOMETIMES STALE COMPLAINTS. THEY STARTED THE INVESTIGATION SHORTLY AFTER MR. CURTIS TOOK OFFICE. AND THEY RELEASED THAT FILE TO US SOMEWHERE EARLIER THIS YEAR. THE INTERNAL WAS A WHISTLEBLOWER. AND I AM HERE TO SAY I WILL ALWAYS FIGHT FOR OUR EMPLOYEES. I WILL FIGHT FOR THEM TO HAVE A FREE WORK ENVIRONMENT WHERE THEY'RE NOT PRESSURED, THEY'RE NOT HARASSED, THEY'RE NOT INTIMIDATED. AND I WILL ALWAYS FIGHT FOR THAT. AND THE WHISTLEBLOWER COMPLAINT IS A LEGITIMATE PROCESS BECAUSE THAT IS ONE OF THE THE WAYS THAT PEOPLE CAN COME FORWARD AND VOICE COMPLAINTS IF THEY DON'T LIKE SATISFACTION. AND THE OPPENHEIMER GROUP THAT BEGAN THEIR INVESTIGATION LAST AUGUST, I DOUBT I DON'T KNOW THIS FOR A FACT, BUT I DOUBT THAT INVESTIGATOR. SHE'S A LAWYER. AND THIS IS THE GOLD STANDARD FIRM IN THE BUSINESS THAT INVESTIGATES THESE TYPES OF THINGS. AND SO IT WAS SHE SHE PROBABLY DIDN'T EVEN COME UP HERE. SHE PROBABLY CALLED REMOTELY AND ZOOMED WITH ALL THESE INTERVIEWS. SO WHAT I'M SAYING IS SHE DOESN'T CARE ABOUT THE OUTCOME. SHE CARES ABOUT THE TRUTH. AND THE TRUTH IS WHAT IS MOST IMPORTANT HERE. AND WE WE NEED TO GO WHERE THE FACT LEADS US. AND WE NEED TO GO WHERE THE TRUTH LEADS US, AND IT HAS NOTHING TO DO. AS CHAIR KELSTROM SAID, WITH A POLITICAL MOTIVATION OR A TIMING ISSUE, TO SAY THAT WE WOULD NOT STEP IN AND TRY TO PROTECT EMPLOYEES, WE WOULD DELAY IT TILL JULY OR AFTER THE ELECTION. THOSE EMPLOYEES ARE AFFECTED BY THIS, AS THEY'VE REPORTED, AS HAS BEEN INVESTIGATED BY TWO DIFFERENT INVESTIGATORS, AND FOUND MOST OF THE ALLEGATIONS SUSTAINED. AND I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE IN THIS ROOM TO GET COPIES OF THESE REPORTS. YOU CAN DO THAT THROUGH PRA AND SEE FOR YOURSELF AND FIND THE FACT AND SEE EXACTLY WHAT WE ALL, AS SUPERVISORS READ. AND THEN YOU CAN MAKE YOUR OWN DETERMINATION. SO THAT IS THAT'S AN IMPORTANT THING THAT WE ARE PURSUING TRUTH THROUGH TWO DIFFERENT INVESTIGATORS, MONICA FUGITT, INTERNALLY THROUGH A WHISTLEBLOWER COMPLAINT AND AN INDEPENDENT OUTSIDE COUNSEL LAW FIRM WITH A LAWYER INVESTIGATOR THAT SHE DOESN'T HAVE ANY OPINION ON THIS. AND SHE CAME UP WITH VERY SIMILAR FINDINGS TO WHAT MONICA DID. THEY WERE ALMOST IDENTICAL. SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO GO AND TO READ THIS FOR YOURSELF AND MAKE YOUR OWN CONCLUSIONS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SUPERVISOR LONG. SUPERVISOR PLUMMER. YES. THANK YOU. KIM. DO NOT. YEAH. DO NOT YELL OUT AND INTERRUPT THE BEANIE. BUT YES, IF YOU WANT TO STAND, YOU NEED TO GO TO THE BACK OF THE ROOM. YOU'RE BLOCKING PEOPLE'S VIEW FROM BEHIND YOU. SO I'M WAITING FOR MY ARREST. THE PUBLIC. I'M WAITING. I DIDN'T SAY I WAS GOING TO ARREST YOU. WOULD YOU LIKE TO LEAVE THE MEETING? I HAVE NO CONTROL. HE SAID THAT SAME MORNING AND HE WAS ARRESTED. SO I'M WAITING FOR IT. ALL RIGHT, JENNY, I'M ASKING YOU TO LEAVE NOW. SHE HAS TO LEAVE. I'M ASKING YOU TO LEAVE, JENNY. ARE YOU SURE YOU WANT TO DO THIS, JENNY? SHE SHOULD NEVER BE ALLOWED BACK IN [01:45:05] WITH WHAT SHE'S DONE. SHUT UP! QUIT YELLING OUT AND INTERRUPTING THE MEETING. ALL RIGHT. I'VE GIVEN YOU YOUR WARNING. THAT'S THE LAST WARNING. YOU'RE GOING TO BE ASKED TO LEAVE, TOO. YOU CAN GO OUT. YOU NEED TO LEAVE. TO. MAKE HER LEAVE. SHE'S GOT TO GO. YOU NEED TO GO. KERRY, TO GET MY EQUIPMENT OUT. SUPERVISOR. PLUMMER. YES. SO I THINK AS WE LOOK AT THIS, I WANTED TO AND I KNOW THERE'S A LOT GOING ON. CLARIFY A FEW THINGS AND AND HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS FOR YOU, MONICA IN JUST A MINUTE. BUT I THINK THERE ONE, I THINK BECAUSE THERE IS A LOT OF SPECULATION AND SUPERVISOR KELSTROM ALLUDED TO THIS, BUT THIS WASN'T BROUGHT BY STAFF TO THIS AGENDA. THIS WAS A FIVE ZERO VOTE BY THE BOARD TO BRING THIS TO TODAY'S MEETING. AND SO WE ARE, YOU KNOW, ACTING ON THAT RESPONSIBILITY TO RESPOND TO THAT. THE OTHER THING IS THERE'S A LOT OF COMMENTS ABOUT HOW ELECTIONS ARE RUN NOW, HOW THEY WERE RUN BEFORE, WHETHER YOU LIKE IT MORE NOW OR IN THE PAST, AND THAT REALLY HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS EITHER, THOUGH THERE'S OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF DEBATE ABOUT THAT AND STRONG OPINIONS. THE IN MY MIND, THIS REALLY COMES DOWN TO THE ALLEGATIONS AROUND HOW MR. CURTIS MAY OR MAY NOT BE TREATING EMPLOYEES. AND THERE IT SEEMS LIKE THE CRUX OF THE DEBATE IS WHETHER THE EXISTING EMPLOYEES AND LONGSTANDING EMPLOYEES HAVE STAGED HIS EFFORTS, OBSTRUCTED HIS EFFORTS TO SUCH AN EXTENT THAT SHOULD HE OR HAD HE OR HAS HE ENGAGED IN BEHAVIORS THAT ARE WOULD BE CONSIDERED MISCONDUCT, THAT THOSE MAY OR MAY NOT BE JUSTIFIED ON THE BASIS OF WHAT THOSE OTHER EMPLOYEES HAVE DONE? AND SO THAT'S WHERE MONICA HAD A FEW QUESTIONS FOR YOU. AND THE FIRST IS WHEN IT COMES TO A DEPARTMENT HEAD LIKE MR. CURTIS. IF HE IS EXPERIENCING PROBLEMATIC BEHAVIOR FROM EMPLOYEES IN HIS DEPARTMENT, WHAT WOULD BE THE NORMAL RECOURSE FOR HIM? OR WHAT WOULD BE THE RECOMMENDED APPROACH FROM SUPPORT SERVICES THAT HE SHOULD ENGAGE IN? SO TYPICALLY, WE WOULD RECOMMEND THOSE DEPARTMENT HEADS CONNECT WITH OUR OFFICE IN PERSONNEL TO ENGAGE THOSE DISCUSSIONS AND DECIDE HOW HOW TO RESPOND DEPENDING ON THE CIRCUMSTANCES. SO THAT COULD BE COUNSELING OR FORMAL DISCIPLINE. AND HAS ANY FORMAL DISCIPLINARY ACTIONS BEEN TAKEN? I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU CAN AND CAN'T SHARE, BUT BY AGAINST KIND OF ELECTION OFFICE EMPLOYEES DURING MR. CURTIS'S TENURE AS A RESULT OF COMPLAINTS THAT HE'S ISSUED. CAN YOU ANSWER THAT QUESTION BROADLY? NOT SPECIFICALLY. OKAY. SO MR. CURTIS HAS ENGAGED OUR OFFICE IN DISCUSSIONS ABOUT CONCERNS THAT HE HAS RAISED, AND WE HAVE PROVIDED SUPPORT TO HIM. AND GENERALLY NO ACTION HAS BEEN TAKEN. SO THERE WOULD BE THE POSSIBILITY OF, SAY, WRITING UP AN EMPLOYEE IF THEY WERE OBSTRUCTING A COUNTY BUSINESS OR NOT LISTENING TO DIRECTIVES GIVEN. IN GENERAL, YES. IF AN EMPLOYEE IS BEING INSUBORDINATE OR DISRESPECTFUL, THEY COULD ENGAGE WITH OUR OFFICE AND WE WOULD HELP THEM THROUGH THAT PROCESS. YES. OKAY. AND SO THAT HASN'T HAPPENED OVER THE LAST YEAR IN TERMS OF GETTING TO THAT STEP IN THE PROCESS. CORRECT. THAT THAT PROCESS HAS NOT BEEN COMPLETED BY MR. CURTIS. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND THEN A SEPARATE LINE OF QUESTIONING IS OBVIOUSLY AND I THINK WHEN WE THINK ABOUT THE BOARD BRINGING THIS FOR CENSURE CONSIDERATION RIGHT NOW, THE THERE'S A YOU KNOW, THERE'S VERY A LOT OF LIMITATIONS IN TERMS OF WHAT THE BOARD CAN AND CAN'T DO IN TERMS OF A ELECTED OFFICIAL. RIGHT. SO MY QUESTION IS, IF THIS SAME PROCESS WERE TO HAVE HAPPEN FOR, SAY, AN APPOINTED DEPARTMENT HEAD, NOT AN ELECTED OFFICIAL, SO SAY THE HEAD OF RESOURCE MANAGEMENT, HAVING FOLLOWED THOSE INVESTIGATIONS, [01:50:03] WHAT WOULD HAVE BEEN THE PROCESS? BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THIS IS UNIQUE WITH AN ELECTED OFFICIAL. BUT IF IT WAS WITH AN APPOINTED DEPARTMENT HEAD, WHAT WOULD HAVE HAPPENED IN THAT CASE? SO IN A SIMILAR CIRCUMSTANCE, WE WOULD AGAIN, AGAIN ENGAGE IN AN INVESTIGATION. THOSE FINDINGS WOULD BE BROUGHT TO THE CEO FOR AN APPOINTED POSITION. DEPENDING ON THAT POSITION WAS APPOINTED TO THE BOARD OR APPOINTED BY THE BOARD OR THE CEO. IT MAY ALSO BE BROUGHT BEFORE THE BOARD PERSONNEL WOULD MAKE A RECOMMENDATION IN COORDINATION WITH THE CEO AS TO HOW TO RESPOND TO THAT. AND THE THEY COULD BE REMOVED FROM THAT POSITION OR FACE DISCIPLINARY ACTION, DEPENDING ON THE CIRCUMSTANCES. OKAY. THANK YOU. THOSE ARE ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAD. THE SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, ON THE BASIS OF THIS THERE ARE TWO INVESTIGATIONS THAT HAVE MULTIPLE SUBSTANTIATED CLAIMS THAT HAVE PROGRESSED OVER THE COURSE OF A YEAR. AND I THINK IN COMPARISON TO SOME OF THE ACTIONS OR THAT WERE MENTIONED AS THAT OTHERS HAVE ENGAGED IN THE CHALLENGE HERE. AND I AND FROM MY PERSPECTIVE IS THAT THIS THERE HAVE BEEN ONGOING CHALLENGES RELATED TO THIS BEHAVIOR THAT DESPITE EFFORTS TO ADDRESS THEM, DON'T SEEM TO BE IMPROVING. AND I THINK THAT'S PART OF THE CHALLENGE HERE IN TERMS OF HOW DO WE HOW DO WE ENSURE THAT WE'RE TAKING THE RESPONSIBILITY TO BOTH PROTECT OUR EMPLOYEES AND TO DO WHAT WE CAN AS A BOARD, WHICH IS LIMITED IN TERMS OF OUR RELATION TO AN ELECTED OFFICIAL, TO TRY TO STOP BEHAVIORS THAT APPEAR TO BE AND SUBSTANTIATED BY INVESTIGATIONS, MISCONDUCT. AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE YOU KNOW, THE TIMING OF THIS IS OBVIOUSLY UNFORTUNATE, BUT IS ALSO THAT IT'S BEEN PROGRESSIVE OVER THE PERIOD OF A YEAR, BUILDING AND BUILDING. AND THERE'S BEEN MULTIPLE EFFORTS TO STOP THIS. AND IN FACT, WHEN WE MADE A STATEMENT BACK IN THE FALL AROUND ACTIONS THAT WERE TAKEN BY ROV CURTIS TO RESTRICT THE PRESS'S ACCESS TO INFORMATION THERE, WE SUGGESTED THAT IF FURTHER MISCONDUCT WERE TO HAPPEN, WE WOULD CONSIDER A CENSURE. AND SO PART OF THIS IS ACTING IN ACCORDANCE WITH WHAT WE SAID WOULD HAPPEN. THE LAST THING THAT I KNOW, A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE SAYING THAT THIS IS KIND OF INTERFERENCE WITH THE ELECTION. THE CHALLENGE AND AND IN MY MIND, THIS IS HOW DO WE HOW DO WE TAKE ACTION TO TRY TO PREVENT THESE BEHAVIORS FROM HAPPENING? BUT AS IT COMES TO THE ELECTION, I THINK YOU COULD MAKE A FAIR ARGUMENT THAT, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD ACTUALLY BE MORE INTERFERENCE TO WITHHOLD THIS INFORMATION UNTIL AFTER AND NOT ALLOW THAT TO BE SOMETHING THAT'S DISCUSSED PUBLICLY. SO WITH, WITH THAT I WILL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE CENSURE ROV. CURTIS. CHAIR, I WILL SECOND THAT MOTION, BUT I DO HAVE SOME MORE BOARD INPUT. OKAY. SUPERVISOR. CRYE. ALL RIGHT. YOU KNOW, IT'S INTERESTING WE TALK ABOUT CENSURE BECAUSE I THINK TWO, MAYBE EVEN THREE BOARD MEMBERS WOULD DO SOMETHING THAT COULD HAVE THEM TECHNICALLY CENSURED. COUNSEL LARMER SOME OF THESE INDIVIDUALS JUST LAST SUPERVISOR PLUMMER WAS JUST DISCUSSING A CLOSED SESSION VOTE WHICH WAS NOT MADE PUBLIC. I MEAN, I GUESS ARE WE AT LIBERTY TO TALK ABOUT THAT? THE VOTE COUNT OF A CLOSED SESSION IS OKAY. SO. ALL RIGHT. SO WE'RE GOING TO GO I'M GOING TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT BECAUSE I DO APPRECIATE PEOPLE ASKING ABOUT HOW THAT CAME ABOUT. AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE DISCUSS THAT THIS WAS BROUGHT TO US IN A CLOSED SESSION MEETING. I PERSONALLY REALLY DON'T TAKE I UNDERSTAND THE INVESTIGATIONS. I UNDERSTAND HOW THAT WORKS. BUT FOR ME, WHEN THIS WAS ASKED TO BE BROUGHT FORWARD, I SAID, YEAH, I'M NOT REALLY COMFORTABLE BRINGING THIS FORWARD. SO I WAS A HOLDOUT FOR QUITE SOME. NOW, CAN I TALK ABOUT THIS, MR. CHAIRMAN? YOU CAN TALK ABOUT THE VOTE. YOU CAN'T TALK ABOUT THE DISCUSSION. CAN WE VOTE TO DISCLOSE CLOSED SESSION? I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE CAN DISCUSS CLOSED SESSION HOW THIS CAME FORWARD. THERE'S THE SECOND. NO SECOND, NO SECOND. ALL RIGHT, I TRIED. I'LL SECOND IT. I'LL SECOND IT. ALL RIGHT. PERFECT. WE HAVE A SECOND BY SUPERVISOR PLUMMER. IF WE'RE ALLOWED TO VOTE TO DISCLOSE. I WANT TO TALK ABOUT HOW THIS CAME FORWARD. SO THE A VOTE IN THE AFFIRMATIVE WOULD WAIVE THE ENTIRE ATTORNEY CLIENT PRIVILEGE ON THAT DISCUSSION. TRANSPARENT IS TRANSPARENT. SO WE HAVE A FIRST AND A SECOND. LET'S TAKE THAT VOTE. ALL RIGHT. STARTING WITH SUPERVISOR LONG. SUPERVISOR. LONG. NO. SUPERVISOR. HARMON. YES. SUPERVISOR. KELSTROM. YES. SUPERVISOR. [01:55:01] CRYE. YES. AND. SUPERVISOR. PLUMMER. YES. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. SO WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THAT. SO THIS CAME TO THIS CAME TO US IN CLOSED SESSION. AND I WILL SAY THAT I WAS ONE OF THE THREE VOTES THAT VOTED FOR MR. CLINT CURTIS. I ALSO WAS ONE OF THE THREE VOTES THAT BROUGHT TOM TOLLER HERE WHO PRECEDED MR. CURTIS. SO IN THIS. HE IS A VERY. I'M GOING TO TRY AND BE VERY RESPECTFUL, SIR. HE IS A VERY ECLECTIC INDIVIDUAL IN TERMS OF HIS MANAGEMENT STYLE, LEADERSHIP STYLE. ONE THING THAT THE MAIN REASON I WANTED TO SEE HIM COME TO THE COUNTY WAS TO MAKE CHANGES TO THE ELECTION OBSERVER AND VOTER ID AND VOTER ID, BUT VOTER ROLLS AND MANY OTHER THINGS HE HAS EXECUTED ON MOST OF THAT FLAWLESSLY. ONE THING WE COULD NOT DO IS UNDERSTAND HOW HE WOULD MANAGE EMPLOYEES. I HAVE ROUGHLY 400 OF THEM, MANY SPREAD ACROSS THE STATE. I RELY ON MY LEADERS AND RELY ON THE TRAINING AND RELY ON THE PROCESSES WE HAVE IN PLACE TO BE SUCCESSFUL. THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT COULD BE VETTED. I DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR MISS FUGITT. IF YOU COULD COME UP REAL QUICK. AND BY THE WAY, JUST SO EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS, THIS IS MISS FUGITT. SHE'S HAD ABOUT FOUR DIFFERENT MISPRONUNCIATIONS OF HER NAME AND THAT'S KRISTEN GOLDSMITH. SO THOSE ARE TWO NAMES THAT HAVE BEEN BUTCHERED. AND I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS. EMPLOYEES. ALL RIGHT. MISS FUGITT, HAVE WE HAD ANY EMPLOYEES? BECAUSE IT'S WE'VE WE'VE UNDONE ATTORNEY CLIENT PRIVILEGE. SO THAT REPORT IS GOING TO BE VERY PUBLIC. SO THIS HAS BEEN AN ONGOING WITCH HUNT FOR OVER A YEAR, RIGHT? AND SO HOLD ON, IT'S MY TURN. AND WHEN I SAY WITCH HUNT, YOU CAN YOU, YOU CAN SEE IT. I'M SORRY. I'M GOING TO FINISH THIS. WHEN HE WAS FIRST APPOINTED, I HAD ROUGHLY 8 TO 10 STRAIGHT DAYS OF PEOPLE IN BLACK IRON CLAD MASKS AND HOODS AND HOODIES PICKETING MY CHILDREN'S GYM BECAUSE HE WAS SELECTED THAT STARTED. I MEAN, THERE'S. ALL RIGHT. CHRISTIAN GARDNER, YOU'RE OUT. SO WHEN YOU YOU KNOW, AND THEN THEY THEY PLAY NWA PROFANITY LACED MUSIC AS KINDERGARTNERS, SIX YEAR OLDS, KIDS WITH DOWN SYNDROME AND OTHER THINGS THAT WOULD, YOU WOULD MAKE THINK PEOPLE WOULD NOT BE COMING TO A GYM ACCOSTING THEM. AND THIS WAS ALL OVER A VOTE. HE HADN'T BEEN IN THERE NOT EVEN A WEEK, NOT EVEN SEVEN DAYS. SO I'VE SEEN THIS UNFOLD. SO WHEN THIS CAME TO CLOSED SESSION, I THOUGHT IT WAS INTERESTING. I SAID, YOU KNOW, HERE WE ARE RIGHT BEFORE AN ELECTION. AND I'VE BEEN THROUGH A FEW AND I'VE BEEN THROUGH SOME HOSTILE AND ONGOING YOU KNOW INDIVIDUALS OR GROUPS THAT JUST DON'T LIKE MAYBE ONE IDEOLOGY OVER ANOTHER. AND FOR ME, I SAID, I REALLY DON'T WANT TO BRING THIS FORWARD. SO I FOUGHT AND FOUGHT AND FOUGHT, AND I HADN'T HAD A CHANCE TO READ THE REPORT. BUT WHEN THE WORD TRANSPARENCY CAME UP AND THEY SAID, HEY, IF WE DON'T DO THIS, WE'RE JUST BURYING IT FROM THE PUBLIC. SO I SAID, OKAY, YOU KNOW WHAT? IF THAT'S THE DIRECTION THIS VOTE IS GOING TO GO, AND THIS IS ABOUT TRANSPARENCY AND BRINGING IT FORWARD TO THE PUBLIC. I'M ON BOARD FOR THAT. SO I DID VOTE TO BRING IT FORWARD BECAUSE I DID NOT WANT TO BE TRANSPARENT. NOW WITH THAT, I WENT AND HAD A CHANCE TO READ THE REPORT. AND WHAT WAS INTERESTING WAS THE ONE THING THAT EVERYBODY'S ALL CHARGED UP ABOUT IS A COMMENT THAT MR. CURTIS MADE ABOUT PULLING SOMEBODY OUT OR HAVING SOMEBODY PULLED OUT OF THEIR OFFICE BY THEIR HAIR. IS THAT EMPLOYEE STILL WORKING FOR US, MISS FUGITT, OR ARE YOU ABLE TO SAY WE'RE NOT GOING TO GO INTO ANY OF THE. OKAY. OKAY. THAT'S FINE. SO HERE'S WHAT YOU'LL FIND IN THE REPORT, THOUGH. THE REPORT, THE THIS INDIVIDUAL SAYS LET IT GO. IT'S NOT A BIG DEAL. WHO CARES? LET IT GO. RIGHT. SO THE EMPLOYEE THAT HE SAID THAT ABOUT, AND YOU'RE GOING TO READ THIS, THEY JUST SAID, HEY, YOU KNOW, AND WHAT I'M ASSUMING THEY'RE JUST SAYING THAT'S JUST CLINT BEING CLINT. AND I DON'T THINK IT'S OKAY. MR. CURTIS I DON'T THINK THOSE COMMENTS ARE OKAY IN A FLIPPANT MANNER. I DON'T THINK THEY'RE OKAY IN A PUBLIC SETTING, A PRIVATE SETTING. YOU KNOW, I WOULD I WOULD CONDONE THAT TYPE OF TALK, ESPECIALLY BEING AN EMPLOYER IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA. YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T DO THOSE THINGS. BUT THE PERSON THAT THE COMMENTS WERE ABOUT SAID TO LET IT GO. AND WHAT I READ IN THAT REPORT IS PEOPLE THINKING, OH, GOODIE, WE GOT SOMETHING AND THEY RAN TO HR WITH IT. AND THAT BOTHERS ME BECAUSE WE'RE 2 OR 3 WEEKS FROM AN ELECTION. WHAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE IS THE PUBLIC'S GOING TO GET TO DECIDE WHO THEY WANT TO RUN THAT OFFICE. AND I WILL TELL YOU 1,000%, WHOEVER WINS THAT ELECTION IN THE TIME I HAVE [02:00:01] ON THIS BOARD, I WILL SUPPORT THAT INDIVIDUAL BECAUSE IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THE GREATEST RESPONSIBILITY THAT WE HAVE OR LUXURY FOR SOME IS TO BE ABLE TO CAST A VOTE AND HAVE IT COUNTED. IN THIS COUNTRY, AND I FEEL STRONGLY ABOUT THAT. I HAVE JUST A FEW OTHER COMMENTS ABOUT AND FORTH ON HOW TO PRESENT THIS, BUT THERE'S A FEW SPEAKERS I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT. WE HAD ONE PERSON COME UP WHO'S IN LATE LATE STAGE CANCER TREATMENTS. I DIDN'T EVEN THINK, QUITE HONESTLY, THEY'D BE ALIVE STILL, BUT THEY CAME AND SPOKE. TODAY WE HAD ANOTHER PERSON THAT WAS, I'M NOT USING THEM BY NAMES, EVEN THOUGH I HAD THEM WRITTEN DOWN. WE HAVE A PERSON THAT WORKED FOR THE COUNTY COUNSEL'S OFFICE, NO CONNECTION TO MR. CURTIS, AND SWITCHED OVER TO ELECTIONS BECAUSE THEY FELT PASSIONATE ABOUT IT. WE HAD INDIVIDUALS I KNOW THAT ARE REALTORS THAT GAVE UP A, A VERY WELL DOCUMENTED HISTORY OF SELLING HOMES BECAUSE THEY WANTED TO WORK IN THE ELECTIONS OFFICE. AND I THINK IT WAS REALLY SAID BEST BY ONE PERSON THAT TALKED ABOUT THIS REALLY SHOULDN'T BE A PARTIZAN ISSUE. WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO JUST SAY, HEY, LOOK, YOU KNOW, ELECTIONS SHOULD BE SOMETHING WE SHOULD NOT BE FIGHTING ABOUT. AND THE ONE THING I WAS REALLY ENCOURAGED BY ORIGINALLY WAS ONE OF MR. CURTIS'S HIRES WAS A STAUNCH DEMOCRATIC ACTIVIST OF LIKE 30 YEARS AND BRANT TURNER. AND I'M THINKING, OKAY, THIS IS GREAT. YOU HAVE A PERSON THAT USED TO BE A DEMOCRAT WHO'S NOW A REPUBLICAN, BECAUSE HE SAID THE DEMOCRAT PARTY LEFT HIM WHO'S OUR ROV? AND THEN YOU HAVE A STAUNCH DEMOCRAT ACTIVIST LIKE HEAVY SAN FRAN. I'M SORRY, BRANT, BUT LIKE WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS, YOU KNOW, SAN FRANCISCO ENTRENCHED. AND I'M THINKING, OKAY, HERE'S TWO PEOPLE COMING TOGETHER. THIS SHOULD WORK OUT. AND HE SAID IT EARLIER. HE SAID HE WAS BLOWN AWAY THAT THIS DIDN'T MOVE FORWARD. I'M NOT A FAN OF CENSURE. THERE WAS THREE TIMES WHERE IT CAME FORWARD. IN THE LAST THREE AND A HALF YEARS I'VE BEEN HERE. ONE WAS WITH THE PAST ROV CATHY DARLING ALLEN ABOUT SOME CONDUCT THAT HAPPENED. THE CENSURE WAS BROUGHT UP. I SAID, I'M NOT SUPPORTING ANY CENSURE. I THINK IT'S TOOTHLESS. I THINK IT'S MEANINGLESS. THE NEXT WAS WHEN TOM, TIM, TIM, GARMIN YOU KNOW, DID SOMETHING UP HERE THAT WARRANTED CENSURE. I SAID, NO, I'M NOT GOING TO CENSURE, EVEN THOUGH THAT HAD TO DO WITH ME. I DON'T BELIEVE IN THAT. AND THEN ALSO, WE'VE HAD OTHER ITEMS COME FORWARD WHERE WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT CENSURE. I THINK IT'S TOOTHLESS. I THINK IT'S A WASTE OF TIME AND I WON'T BE MOVING IN THAT DIRECTION. BUT I WILL SAY, MR. CURTIS, BECAUSE WE ARE DOING THIS IN A VERY PUBLIC WAY. THE, THE, THE JOKES ARE NOT FUNNY AND YOU HAVE TO REIN THAT IN. SOME PEOPLE MAY LIKE THAT SENSE OF HUMOR, BUT I THINK IT COULD BE FOUND OFFENSIVE. AND I THINK AS AN ELECTED OFFICIAL, YOU GET TO RUN AS AN APPOINTED ELECTED POSITION. YOU GET TO RUN THAT OFFICE HOW YOU WANT. AND I'M GOING TO SUPPORT THAT BECAUSE AS YOU'RE AN ELECTED OFFICIAL, YOU GET TO DO WHAT IT IS YOU DO. I'LL YIELD MY TIME. SUPERVISOR LONG. THANK YOU, CHAIR. MY QUESTION IS FOR COUNTY COUNSEL LAURA MOORE. SENATE BILL 553, WHICH IS THE WORKPLACE VIOLENCE. AND THERE'S A ZERO TOLERANCE FOR ANY KIND OF THREATS OR PHYSICAL HARM IN A WORKPLACE ENVIRONMENT. AND CAN CAN YOU WEIGH IN ON THAT? JUST, JUST IN GENERAL, IT REQUIRES THAT IF THERE'S A CREDIBLE THREAT THAT THE EMPLOYER FILE A DOCUMENTATION WITH THE COURT TO GET A RESTRAINING ORDER TO PROTECT THE WORKPLACE AND THE EMPLOYEES. OKAY. AND HAVE, HAVE WE DETERMINED IF THERE IS A CREDIBLE THREAT AT THIS POINT? I'M NOT GOING TO ANSWER THAT LEGAL QUESTION. OKAY. THANK YOU. YOU GOOD? SUPERVISOR. HARMON. I THINK I KNOW THE ANSWER TO THIS, BUT I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT THERE IS NO AUDIO WITH ANY OF THE VIDEO. CORRECT. CAN YOU CLARIFY WHAT YOU MEAN WITH THE VIDEO? WELL, EVERY IT WAS SAID A COUPLE OF TIMES. THERE'S VIDEO EVERYWHERE IN THE OFFICES IN THE REGISTRAR'S OFFICE. YEAH. DOCUMENTING. I COULDN'T SAY WITH CERTAINTY. PERHAPS I COULD ANSWER THAT QUESTION SOMEWHAT, BUT. SO JUST A SIMPLE QUESTION. IS THERE ANY AUDIO WITH ANY OF THAT VIDEO OR IS IT ALL SILENT? SHE DOESN'T KNOW. I SEE. OH, SORRY I MISUNDERSTOOD YOU. SORRY, MONICA. SO THERE'S NOT WE CAN ASSUME OR IT WOULD HAVE GOT BROUGHT UP. RIGHT. THAT'S TOO BAD. BUT AND I HAVE TO SAY MUCH DUE RESPECT TO YOU AND COUNSEL LARMER THAT. THERE'S JUST NOT ENOUGH EVIDENCE. THERE'S EVIDENCE GOING BOTH WAYS TO MAKE A GOOD DECISION. AND THERE'S. AND SO I'M GOING TO, I'M GOING TO SAY I CANNOT VOTE TO CENSOR. [02:05:01] THAT'S ALL I GOT TO SAY. THANKS. ALL RIGHT, MR. CURTIS, IF I COULD ASK YOU A FEW QUESTIONS. YES, SIR. WELL, I JUST I WANT TO GET IT ON RECORD. I MEAN, WE HAVE HAD MULTIPLE, MULTIPLE, MULTIPLE DISCUSSIONS AND MYSELF. SUPERVISOR. CRYE. WE'VE TALKED MULTIPLE TIMES UNTIL WE'RE SEEMS LIKE WE'RE BLUE IN THE FACE. AND I KNOW COUNTY COUNCIL'S HAD HUNDREDS OF CONVERSATIONS WITH YOU AND DAVE RICKERT CEO. RICKERT HAS HAD HUNDREDS OF CONVERSATIONS WITH YOU. SO THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS, I'M NOT GOING TO VOTE FOR A CENSURE RIGHT BEFORE AN ELECTION, BECAUSE I WANT THAT TO NOT SHAPE THE ELECTION IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM. BUT WITH THAT BEING SAID, I MEAN, WE'RE GOING TO RELEASE THOSE THAT 1000 PAGES OF REPORTS. I MEAN, EVEN IF 10% OF THOSE, WHEN THEY FIRST CAME OUT AND I COULDN'T GET A COPY. WELL, WE'RE GOING TO GIVE YOU ONE NOW. THANK YOU SIR. AND IF EVEN 10% OF THOSE ALLEGATIONS ARE TRUE. YOU DESERVE A CENSURE, OKAY? NONE OF THEM ARE. ALL RIGHT. WELL, THAT'S FINE, BUT I'M JUST TELLING YOU WHERE YOU CAN WATCH EVERYTHING. I'M NOT GOING TO VOTE FOR A CENSURE BECAUSE IT'S RIGHT BEFORE AN ELECTION. THE BALLOTS COME OUT NEXT WEEK, AND I DO NOT WANT TO CENSURE TO DO ANYTHING TO THAT ELECTION, TO HAVE IT CAUSE ANY PROBLEMS WITH THAT ELECTION WHATSOEVER. BUT PLEASE STOP THE JOKES, HAVE SOMEBODY IN WITNESS WITH YOU IN THE ROOM AND, YOU KNOW, DO SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT MULTIPLE, MULTIPLE TIMES. WE'RE OVER AT THE CAMERA PLACE. PERFECT. AND WE'LL FIND OUT IF THEY SAID SOMETHING HAPPENED OVER THERE. BECAUSE IF THEY DID, I'VE GOT VIDEO AND IT WILL SHOW THAT IT DID NOT. OKAY. PERFECT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU SIR. SUPERVISOR. PLUMMER. ARE YOU GOOD? HARMON OR SUPERVISOR? HARMON. JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I SECOND WHAT YOU JUST SAID. OKAY. I APPRECIATE HOW YOU DID THAT. SUPERVISOR. PLUMMER. YES, MONICA, I HAD A QUESTION FOR YOU. YOU MENTIONED TWO RECOMMENDATIONS EARLIER IN THE MEETING AROUND MR. CURTIS NOT BEING PHYSICALLY PRESENT. UP UNTIL THE ELECTION TIME WHEN IT WOULD BE NECESSARY FOR HIM TO BE THERE. AND THEN HAVING SOMEONE FROM SUPPORT SERVICES IS HAS THAT RECOMMENDATION ALREADY BEEN MADE TO HIM PRIOR, OR IS THAT WAS TODAY THE FIRST TIME THAT THAT RECOMMENDATION WAS BEING MADE? WE HAVE DISCUSSED THAT WITH HIM PREVIOUSLY. AND IS THAT IS THAT SOMETHING? AND MR. CURTIS, YOU'RE WELCOME TO TO ANSWER IT TOO. BUT IS THAT SOMETHING THAT HE'S AGREED TO OR IS THAT SOMETHING, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN? I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY A BETTER QUESTION FOR MR. CURTIS. THAT WOULD BE AN ABSOLUTELY NOT. I CAN'T LEAVE THAT PLACE WITH THE PEOPLE THAT ARE THERE AND EXPECT THAT THE ELECTION BE HELD CORRECTLY. THEY'RE TRYING TO SABOTAGE IT. IT WOULD BE BETTER IF WE COULD MOVE THOSE PEOPLE, THE ONES THAT ARE CAUSING THE ISSUES OVER TO ANOTHER DEPARTMENT UNDER 14.3. AND THEN I COULD ACTUALLY GET PEOPLE THAT WANTED TO COOPERATE. WHAT'S THE PROCESS ON YOUR END FOR MOVING PEOPLE OUT OF THE DEPARTMENT? WE HAVE A PERSONNEL ISSUE. IT'S 14.3 IS WHAT IT LISTS. AND IF THEY'RE DETRIMENTAL TO THE DEPARTMENT AND THEY ARE BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT COOPERATIVE AND THEY ARE LIKE DROPPING THE BALL ON PURPOSE BECAUSE THEY KNOW HOW TO DO THIS STUFF. THEY REALLY DO. THEY'RE NOT LOST, BUT THEY ACT LOST. SO IF WE COULD SIMPLY MOVE THEM TO ANOTHER DEPARTMENT, I'M NOT SAYING FIRE THEM. I'M NOT SAYING REDUCE THEIR SALARIES IN ANY WAY. MR. CHAIRMAN, THIS IS NOT ON THE AGENDA. YEAH. MY FAULT SIR. THANK YOU. THAT'S THE ONLY. THAT WAS MY LAST QUESTION. THANK YOU, SUPERVISOR LONG. I DID JUST WANT TO MAKE A RESPOND TO TWO OTHER THINGS, THOUGH. THE ONE YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A PROCESS IN PLACE AS THE COUNTY FOR RESPONDING TO THESE TYPES OF SITUATIONS. AND WE HAVE GONE THROUGH THAT PROCESS. AND, YOU KNOW, THAT PROCESS THROUGH TWO SEPARATE SITUATIONS HAVE CONCLUDED THAT THERE IS SUFFICIENT EVIDENCE TO SUBSTANTIATE IT, BECAUSE ONE OF THE OTHER, YOU KNOW, AND SOME OF THE ALLEGATIONS WERE CLASSIFIED AS THIS, AS NOT SUBSTANTIATED, WHICH WOULD SUGGEST THAT THERE WASN'T SUFFICIENT EVIDENCE. AND SO I THINK WHEN WE WHEN WE THINK ABOUT ASSESSING THIS, THERE THERE ALREADY HAS BEEN DEMONSTRATED BY A THIRD PARTY INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATOR AND AN INTERNAL PARTY. AND SO I BELIEVE WE NEED TO UPHOLD THAT PROCESS AND RESPECT THAT PROCESS. OTHERWISE, WE KIND OF NULLIFY THE THE PURPOSE OF THAT. AND FOR A RECOMMENDATION TO BE MADE FOR HIM NOT EVEN TO BE PRESENT WITH THE EMPLOYEES. THAT'S PRETTY SERIOUS. AND I THINK THE WE'VE WE'VE JUST HEARD FROM MR. CURTIS THAT HE DOESN'T PLAN TO ADHERE TO THAT, WHICH IS PART OF THE REASON WHY WE GOT HERE IS BECAUSE THERE WERE MANY EFFORTS BY MANY OF YOU TO YOU KNOW, ADDRESS SOME OF THE BEHAVIORS IN A, [02:10:04] IN A LESS PUBLIC WAY THAT HAVE NOT RESULTED IN ANY CHANGE. AND SO I THINK THIS IS IMPORTANT AS A NEXT STEP TO EMPHASIZE THE SERIOUSNESS OF WHAT HAS HAPPENED, THE FACT THAT THERE HAS NOT BEEN AN EFFORT TO, TO CHANGE THOSE BEHAVIORS AND TO UPHOLD THE PROCESS IN PLACE THAT WE HAVE FOR PROTECTING OUR EMPLOYEES. SUPERVISOR. THE CENSURE. JUST SORRY. SUPERVISOR. CRYE ASKED ME A QUESTION. THE CENSURE, OBVIOUSLY, TO YOUR POINT IS, IS TOOTHLESS IN A SENSE, BUT IT'S OUR IN OUR IT'S OUR BEST TOOL TO INDICATE THAT WE THINK ACTION SHOULD BE TAKEN ON THIS. AND SO I BELIEVE IT'S OUR ONLY AT THIS POINT OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE THE RESPONSIBLE ACTION HERE. AND ISN'T THAT BRINGING IT FORWARD TO THE PUBLIC? SUPERVISOR. CRYE. YOU'RE IN QUEUE. SUPERVISOR LONG THANK YOU, CHAIR MONICA. I WASN'T GOING TO ASK THESE QUESTIONS, BUT I THINK GIVEN THE FACT THAT MR. CURTIS JUST SAID THAT HE DOESN'T WANT TO CHANGE HIS, HIS PATTERNS I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO ESTABLISH A LITTLE BIT OF A TIMELINE HERE. SO THE OPPENHEIMER INVESTIGATION WAS DELIVERED TO MR. CURTIS ON WHAT DATE? THE LET ME JUST BE CLEAR THAT THE INVESTIGATION WAS NOT DELIVERED. IT'S SUBJECT TO ATTORNEY CLIENT PRIVILEGE, AND A CLOSURE NOTICE WOULD BE DELIVERED. CLOSURE NOTICE MY MY ERROR. THE CLOSURE NOTICE WAS DELIVERED TO MR. CURTIS ON MARCH 26TH. MARCH 26TH. AND IN IN THE CLOSURE NOTICE. DID IT HAVE ANY PARTICULAR FINDINGS? YES. OKAY. AND SO MR. CURTIS WAS AWARE OF THE FINDINGS IN THE CLOSURE NOTICE BECAUSE HE HAS NOT SEEN THE INVESTIGATION BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE REDACTED AT SOME POINT BEFORE HE GETS A COPY OF THAT. AND THEN THE WHISTLEBLOWER COMPLAINT. WHAT WHEN DID WHEN DID CURRENT VIOLATIONS OCCUR AFTER THAT DATE? SO I CAN TELL YOU THE DATE THAT THAT WAS SUBMITTED, WHICH WAS APRIL 7TH. THE DATE OF THE INCIDENT IN QUESTION WAS MARCH 27TH. SO MARCH 26TH WAS THE NOTICE OF CLOSURE. MARCH 27TH WAS THE CONTINUED BEHAVIOR AND THE NEW COMPLAINT PATTERN, CORRECT? OKAY. THANK YOU. AND I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT TO CONSIDER IN LIGHT OF HIS STATEMENT EARLIER, WHICH IS THAT HE IS GOING TO CONTINUE THE BEHAVIOR. WE MUST, WE MUST WE MUST PROTECT OUR EMPLOYEES. WE'RE GOING TO RELEASE ALL THAT INFORMATION AND EVERYBODY WILL BE ABLE TO SEE THAT. I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT LET ME LET ME FINISH. WE HAVE TO DO THE RIGHT THING HERE. AND WE MUST PROTECT EMPLOYEES. PERIOD. OKAY. SO WE HAVE A ON THIS WEEK. YEAH. YEAH. YEAH. I MEAN, I, I AGREE SUPERVISOR LONG AND HERE'S THE CRUX OF THE WHOLE ARGUMENT, RIGHT? AND THIS IS COMICAL TO ME BECAUSE THE EMPLOYEE THAT THE COMMENT WAS SAID ABOUT THE EMPLOYEE SAYS, LET IT GO, FORGET IT. DON'T MAKE A BIG DEAL OF IT. SO AS A COP, RIGHT, IF WE WANT, DO WE WANT TO GET IT RIGHT OR DO WE WANT TO BE RIGHT? BECAUSE THE EMPLOYEE IN QUESTION THAT WAS TOLD THAT, HEY, THIS WAS SAID ABOUT YOU. AND THEY SAID, OH, AND I COULD JUST IMAGINE THE PERSON ROLLING THEIR EYES SAYING, OH, THAT GUY'S RIDICULOUS. DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT. HE DOESN'T MEAN IT. BECAUSE I'M GUESSING IF ANYBODY WAS AFRAID FOR THEIR LIFE THAT THEY WERE GOING TO BE THROAT PUNCHED OR ANYTHING ELSE. AND AGAIN, MR. CURTIS, I CAN'T STRESS THIS ENOUGH. KNOCK IT OFF WITH THOSE OFFHANDED COMMENTS. THEY'RE NOT FUNNY, THEY'RE NOT FUNNY. BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE PERSON THAT THIS IS ALL DRUMMED UP ABOUT SAID, LET IT GO. SO WHEN YOU SAID PROTECTING OUR EMPLOYEES, AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE EMPLOYEE THAT WE'RE ALL PROTECTING SAID, LET IT GO. IT'S NO BIG DEAL. CAN I, CAN I VOTE? CHAIRMAN, I THINK WE SHOULD JUST GET LET'S JUST TAKE THE CEO. RICKERT. THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN KELSTROM I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY FOR THE AUDIENCE AND THOSE AT HOME FOR TRANSPARENCY PURPOSES. WE ARE NOT REQUIRING A PR FOR THESE DOCUMENTS. WE'RE GOING TO MAKE THEM PUBLICLY AVAILABLE. SO PLEASE SAVE YOUR TIME AND EFFORTS WITH A PR AYE JUST SIMPLY STOP BY. WE WILL MAKE THESE DOCUMENTS PUBLICLY AVAILABLE. THANK YOU. OKAY. BEFORE WE GET TO YOU, SUPERVISOR PLUMMER. I'M GOING. WE HAVE A WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE TABLE. I'M GOING TO MAKE A SUBSEQUENT MOTION BECAUSE I'M GOING TO VOTE TO NOT CENSURE MR. CURTIS UNTIL AFTER THE ELECTION IS OVER. ONCE THE ELECTION IS OVER, WE'LL TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT IT. BUT UNTIL THEN, I SAY NO CENSURE UNTIL AFTER THE ELECTION IS OVER. DO I HAVE A SECOND? I SECOND THAT IS GOING TO BE JUST LIKE THE FIRST. [02:15:03] I MEAN, I'LL I'LL SECOND IT, BUT REALLY, A NO VOTE ON THE CENSURE IS THE SAME THING, BUT WELL, NOT REALLY, BECAUSE THIS LEAVES IT STILL ON THE TABLE THAT WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT IT AFTER THE ELECTION. SO YOU WANT TO BRING IT BACK. I WANT TO DO NOTHING THAT WILL SWAY AN ELECTION. I'LL SECOND THAT. OKAY. THANK YOU. SUPERVISOR. PLUMMER. YEAH, I JUST WANT TO RESPOND TO THE ONE, THE STATEMENT THAT BY HER SAYING LET IT GO BY THIS EMPLOYEE SAYING LET IT GO, THAT THAT IS AN INDICATION THAT THERE WASN'T A PROBLEM WITH IT, IN PART BECAUSE, I MEAN, WE WE KNOW OFTEN THAT PEOPLE WHO EXPERIENCE ABUSIVE BEHAVIOR ARE NOT INTERESTED IN COMING FORWARD. AND THEY'RE ALSO THERE ALSO, WHICH WAS A SUBSTANTIATED PARTIALLY, I BELIEVE IT WAS PARTIALLY SUBSTANTIATED. CORRECT ME IF I MISSTATE BUT FEAR OF RETALIATION WOULD BE A BIG THING. AND SO WE CANNOT WE CANNOT USE THAT AS. DID YOU READ THE REPORT? YES. AND AND IN THE REPORT, IT ALSO SAYS THAT THE EMPLOYEE WAS SHAKING AT THE TIME. AND SO WE CANNOT USE THAT AS A JUSTIFICATION FOR NOT THINKING THIS WAS A SERIOUS ACTION. ALL RIGHT. SUPERVISOR, LET'S, LET'S GET TO A VOTE HERE PRETTY QUICKLY. YES. AND AND SUPERVISOR PLUMMER SAID EXACTLY WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY. I HAD A LONG CAREER IN POLICE, AND I WAS AN INVESTIGATOR, CRIMINAL INVESTIGATOR, HOMICIDE INVESTIGATOR, SEXUAL ASSAULT INVESTIGATOR, BURGLARY INVESTIGATOR. AND I KNOW THAT PEOPLE DON'T COME FORWARD BECAUSE THEY'RE INTIMIDATED. I KNOW THAT THEY DON'T COME FORWARD BECAUSE THEY FEAR RETALIATION. I'M NOT SAYING THAT'S THE CASE HERE. I HAVE NO IDEA. NOT EVEN A CLUE. BUT WHAT I'M WHAT I MY RESPONSE TO SUPERVISOR CRYE WOULD BE THAT THIS IS FAR, FAR MORE. AND THE PUBLIC WILL SEE THIS. AND THIS IS FAR MORE THAN ONE PERSON THAT IS AFRAID TO COME FORWARD WITH A STATEMENT THAT WHO KNOWS WHAT HER MINDSET IS? THIS IS FAR MORE THAN THAT. AND LET'S LET THE GET THE INFORMATION TO THE PUBLIC. WE LIFTED THAT THING. SO CAN I GET A ROLL CALL VOTE ON MY SUBSEQUENT MOTION, WHICH IS TO NOT CENSURE UNTIL AFTER THE ELECTION, STARTING WITH SUPERVISOR PLUMMER BRING IT BACK AFTER, BRING IT BACK TO NOT CENSURE UNTIL AFTER THE ELECTION. YES, WE'LL BRING IT BACK THEN FOR REVIEW. THAT WAY, THE PUBLIC WILL HAVE BEEN ABLE TO READ THE THOUSAND PAGES OF REPORTS AND IT DOESN'T MATTER. FACTS DON'T MATTER. SO. SUPERVISOR. PLUMMER. SUPERVISOR. PLUMMER. NO. SUPERVISOR. CRYE. YES. SUPERVISOR. KELSTROM. YES. SUPERVISOR. HARMON. YES. AND SUPERVISOR. LONG. I'D LIKE A CLARIFICATION OF THAT, BECAUSE I LOST MY PLACE HERE. WHAT? WHAT EXACTLY? NO CENSURE UNTIL AFTER THE ELECTION. AND THEN WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT IT AGAIN. THEN NO CENSURE UNTIL AFTER THE ELECTION. THE ELECTION IS CERTIFIED. NO. OKAY. PASSES 3 TO 2. ALL RIGHT. [R2 PUBLIC EMPLOYEE APPOINTMENT (Government Code section 54957): Title:  Public Works Director] MOVING ON. CLOSED SESSION. DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS FOR CLOSED SESSION R TWO? WE DO. CHAIR, GIVE ME JUST ONE MOMENT. WE HAVE ONE SPEAKER, DOLORES LUCERO. IS DOLORES STILL HERE? YES. COME ON UP. WHY DON'T YOU GUYS GO HOME? MAKE SURE IT'S ON THE WALL. NICK, DON'T YELL OUT AND INTERRUPT THE MEETING. IT LOOKS LIKE THE MEETING IS INTERRUPTED NOW, SO. OKAY. SO IF YOU'RE. I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW YOU COULD FREAKING SIT THERE AND SAY, NO, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO CENSOR HIM WHEN ABUSE IS. THIS IS R TWO. IT'S NOT OKAY TO ABUSE SOMEBODY. YOU'RE GOING TO GO IN CLOSED SESSION RIGHT. BUT YET YOU YOU THINK IT'S OKAY TO FOR SOMEONE SOME PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR IT IS. THIS IS ABOUT PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR. YOU THINK IT'S OKAY TO ABUSE WOMEN? YOU WERE PART OF THAT COTTONWOOD. OKAY. YOU'RE NOT, YOU'RE NOT YOU'RE NOT SPEAKING ON R TWO. AND THAT WAS OUR ONLY SPEAKER. THAT'S THE LAST SPEAKER. YES. ALL RIGHT. LET'S GO TO CLOSED SESSION. WITH THAT WE'LL ADJOURN THE CLOSED SESSION. 1130. COMING BACK FROM CLOSED SESSION. COUNTY COUNCIL DO WE HAVE ANY REPORTABLE ACTION ITEM? R TWO WAS HEARD IN CLOSED SESSION. THERE IS NO REPORTABLE ACTION. ALL RIGHT. WITH THAT WE WILL. THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.