[CALL TO ORDER] [00:00:04] GOOD MORNING AND WELCOME TO THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE SHASTA COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS. IT'S TUESDAY, MARCH 24TH AND THE TIME IS 9 A.M. ALL BOARD MEMBERS ARE WITH US TODAY, INCLUDING CEO DAVE RICKERT, COUNTY COUNCIL JOE LARMER, AND FROM THE CLERK OF THE BOARD, STEPHANIE BLANKENSHIP, KRISTEN GULIG-SMITH, MIRANDA ANGEL, AND IN THE FOYER, LISA TIERNEY. WE ENCOURAGE THOSE WISHING TO PARTICIPATE IN PUBLIC COMMENT, FILL OUT A SPEAKER REQUEST CARD AND SUBMIT IT TO THE CLERK IN THE FOYER. SPEAKER REQUEST CARDS MUST BE SUBMITTED TO THE CLERK BEFORE PUBLIC COMMENT FOR EACH REGULAR MEETING. ITEM BEGINS. WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO MS. BLANKENSHIP. THANK YOU. THROUGH THE CHAIR, I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND EVERYONE IN ATTENDANCE TODAY OF THE BOARDROOM RULES OF ORDER AS OUTLINED IN ADMINISTRATIVE POLICY 1-101. THOSE CAN BE FOUND ONLINE THROUGH THE CLERK OF THE BOARD WEBSITE. THIS POLICY INCLUDES SIGNAGE RESTRICTIONS, ATTENDEE SEATING, AND OVERALL CONDUCT TO ENSURE BUSINESS IS DONE IN AN ORDERLY FASHION AND THAT ALL HAVE AN EQUAL OPPORTUNITY TO OBSERVE AND PARTICIPATE. UNLESS ADDRESSING THE BOARD, ALL THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE SHALL REMAIN SEATED IN THE CHAIRS PROVIDED. STANDING ALONG THE BACK WALL OF THE BOARDROOM IS ACCEPTABLE SO LONG AS NO PERSON BLOCKS THE INGRESS OR EGRESS. MEMBERS OF THE MEDIA WHO WANT TO OBSERVE, RECORD, OR OTHERWISE DOCUMENT A BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEETING ARE REQUESTED TO SET UP EQUIPMENT FROM THE DESIGNATED AREA ALONG THE SOUTH WINDOWS. SHASTA COUNTY REMAINS COMMITTED TO CONDUCTING BUSINESS IN A PROFESSIONAL AND ACCESSIBLE ENVIRONMENT AND WE KINDLY ASK THAT ALL ATTENDEES ADHERE TO THESE RULES. WITH THAT, CHAIR, I'LL TURN THINGS BACK OVER TO YOU. THANK YOU, MS. BLANKENSHIP. TODAY'S INVOCATION IS DONE BY PASTOR GLENN GARRETT FROM THE SHINGLETOWN FAMILY CHURCH. IS HE IN ATTENDANCE TODAY? OKAY. FORTUNATELY, WE HAVE ANOTHER PASTOR IN THE ROOM, PASTOR LES BAUGH. HE WILL DO THE INVOCATION FOLLOWED BY THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE BY SUPERVISOR HARMON. IF EVERYBODY WOULD PLEASE STAND. THANK YOU. IT'S AN HONOR TO BE HERE, FOLKS. WOULD YOU BOW WITH ME? HEAVENLY FATHER, WE JUST THANK YOU FOR MOMENTS LIKE THIS THAT WE CAN GATHER TOGETHER. AS A COMMUNITY, THAT WE CAN BE UNITED FOR GOOD PURPOSES, FOR DECISIONS THAT ARE MADE BY THESE MEN AND WOMEN HERE, AND FATHER, BY THE INPUT THAT COMES FROM THE COMMUNITY AS WELL. I WOULD JUST ASK THAT YOUR PRESENCE BE MADE KNOWN, THAT EVERYTHING THAT IS SAID AND DONE TODAY WOULD BE HONORABLE TO YOU. AND LORD GOD, THAT YOU WOULD JUST BLESS THOSE WHOM YOU WOULD BLESS WITH A FEELING OF JUST BEAUTIFUL GRACE. IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST, WE PRAY. AMEN. PLEASE JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE. I PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. THANK YOU, PASTOR BAUGH, AND THANK YOU, SUPERVISOR HARMON. [R1 Receive an update from the County Executive Officer on County issues and consider action on specific legislation related to Shasta County’s legislative platform and receive Supervisors’ reports on countywide issues.] MOVING ON, BOARD MATTERS. R1, RECEIVE AN UPDATE FROM THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE OFFICER ON COUNTY ISSUES AND CONSIDER ACTION ON SPECIFIC LEGISLATION RELATED TO CHESTER COUNTY'S LEGISLATIVE PLATFORM AND RECEIVE SUPERVISOR'S REPORT ON COUNTYWIDE ISSUES. MR. RICKERT, CEO RICKERT. GOOD MORNING, CHAIRMAN KALLSTROM AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS. DAVE RICKERT, COUNTY EXECUTIVE OFFICER REPORTING. YESTERDAY, THE CALIFORNIA STATE ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES, CSAC, ANNOUNCED A COUNTYWIDE MULTI-YEAR HR1 BUDGET REQUEST. THIS EFFORT IS THE RESULT OF MONTHS OF STRATEGIC COLLABORATION WITH COUNTIES AND COUNTY AFFILIATES TO ANALYZE THE IMPACT OF H.R. 1 ON COUNTY BUDGETS AND DEVELOP A THOUGHTFUL FUNDING FRAMEWORK THAT CAN PREVENT OUR SAFETY NET FROM CRUMBLING. THE COUNTYWIDE BUDGET REQUEST ENCOMPASSES ALL ASPECTS OF H.R. 1 IMPACTS, INCLUDING INDIGENT CARE, ELIGIBILITY WORK, PUBLIC HOSPITALS, AND BEHAVIORAL HEALTH. COUNTIES ARE REQUESTING $1.9 BILLION IN 26 AND 27, AND $4.5 BILLION IN 2728. HHSA DIRECTOR CHRISTY KOMEN IS REVIEWING THIS MATERIAL AND WILL DEVELOP A LETTER OF SUPPORT FOR BOARD APPROVAL BASED ON SHASTA COUNTY NEEDS. EXCUSE ME. MOVING ON, THE RURAL COUNTY REPRESENTATIVES OF CALIFORNIA, RCRC, IN COALITION WITH CALIFORNIA ASSOCIATION OF COUNTY TREASURERS AND TAX COLLECTORS, IS CO-SPONSORING SENATE BILL 1005, AUTHORED BY SENATOR ANNA CABALLERO. THIS MEASURE WILL SEEK TO PROVIDE CLEAR AUTHORITY FOR PUBLIC AGENCIES TO ROUND TO THE NEAREST NICKEL WHEN WE ARE RECEIVING CASH PAYMENTS OR ISSUING CHANGE WHEN CONDUCTING CASH TRANSACTIONS WITH THE PUBLIC. SPECIFICALLY, SB 1005 WILL AUTHORIZE LOCAL AGENCIES TO ROUND ANY AMOUNT OF PAYMENT WHOLLY OR PARTLY IN CASH WITH LOCAL AGENCY OR ANY REFUND OR OTHER AMOUNT TENDERED WHOLLY OR PARTLY IN CASH TO THE NEAREST NICKEL. THIS BILL WOULD APPLY TO ALL LOCAL AGENCIES ONLY IF THE GOVERNING BODY OF THE LOCAL AGENCY ADOPTS BY MAJORITY VOTE A RESOLUTION TO MAKE ITS PROVISIONS APPLICABLE TO THE LOCAL AGENCY. ON FEBRUARY 9, 2025, PRESIDENT TRUMP ORDERED THE TREASURY SECRETARY SCOTT BASSINET TO STOP PRODUCING PENNIES AT [00:05:01] U.S. MINT. THE LAST PENNY PRODUCED FOR GENERAL CIRCULATION WAS MINTED AT THE U.S. MINT IN PHILADELPHIA ON NOVEMBER 12, 2025. THIS CONCLUDES MY REPORT. THANK YOU, CEO RICKERT. SUPERVISOR LONG. I'M GOING TO START AT THIS END. YEP. EXCELLENT. OKAY, WELCOME EVERYONE. GOOD TO SEE EVERYONE HERE. SO THE THREE THAT I WOULD LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT FROM THIS PAST COUPLE WEEKS WENT TO AN ABATEMENT HEARING FOR A PROPERTY IN KESWICK ON ROCK CREEK ROAD, AND THERE WERE SERIOUS SUBSTANTIAL VIOLATIONS. WITH GRADING, THEY WERE GRADING IN A NEW PAD WITHOUT A PERMIT. ILLEGAL OCCUPANCY, RAW SEWAGE, IT WAS QUITE THE MESS. AND SO I AWAIT THE COMMISSIONER'S REPORT BACK ON THAT, AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN PROCEED FORWARD WITH COST RECOVERY ON THAT. SO I ATTENDED A QUARTERLY FUELS REDUCTIONS MEETING, AND THERE WERE A LOT OF PLAYERS THERE. TERRA FUEGO, WHICH IS A PRIVATE BUSINESS THAT DOES PRESCRIBE BURNS ON PROPERTY AND CAL FIRE WAS THERE US FOR SERVICE LAST AND SHASTA COUNTY FIRE SAFE COUNCILS AND IT WAS A VERY INTERESTING TOPIC AND CAL FIRE DOT OUTLINED THE PLAN FOR OUR COUNTY AND THE PROGRESS WE'VE MADE AND TOWARD TOWARD THIS PLAN AND BASICALLY THE PLAN IS TO ENCAPSULATE THE POPULATION CENTERS IN OUR COUNTY WITH A FIRE CONTROL BURN AND A PERIMETER SO THAT WE CAN HAVE A FIRE BREAK AND SO THEY HAD WE'VE GOT A HUNDRED THIRTY SEVEN MILES THAT ARE PROPOSED TO ENCAPSULATE OUR POPULATION CENTERS RUNNING ALONG CLEAR CREEK COMING UP THROUGH THE CENTER BILL AREA I GO ON ALL AND THEN UP TO THE NORTH AND EVENTUALLY OVER TO THE EAST SIDE. AND THEY'VE MADE A LOT OF PROGRESS ON THESE BURNS, AND IT'S KIND OF PIECEMEAL BASED ON FUNDING. AND SO THEY'VE GOT 53 MILES LEFT TO COMPLETE OF THE 137 MILES. SO THAT'S EXCITING THAT WE'RE GETTING THERE. PEOPLE MAY HAVE HEARD THAT FEMA, AND WE HAD THIS ANNOUNCED AT THIS MEETING, THAT FEMA HAD PROMISED MONEY FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FOR CAR. FIRE FOOTPRINT VICTIMS AND HELPING TO REMOVE FORESTATION AND SOME OF THE UNDERBRUSH AND CUTTING AND SOME OF THESE KINDS OF THINGS THAT THAT HAS BEEN DISCONTINUED SO THERE WILL BE NO FEMA FUNDS COMING FORWARD FOR THAT AND IT'S BEEN IN THE WORKS FOR YOU KNOW LAST SIX YEARS BUT THAT THAT WAS A DISAPPOINTMENT BUT THERE IS A PROMISE OF STATE FUNDING WHICH I'M GOING TO STAY ON TOP OF AND SEE IF WE CAN GAIN STATE FUNDING FOR SOMEWHAT OF THE FEMA CARF FIRE FOOTPRINT FOLKS. I MET WITH OUR FIRE SUBCOMMITTEE WITH CEO RICKERT, CHIEF SEAN O'HARA, CAO AARON BERTAIN, AND WE DISCUSSED HOW TO GAIN A GRANT WRITER POSITION, AND IT'S KIND OF MODELED AFTER BUTTE COUNTY. AND SO WE'VE FOUND THAT BUTTE COUNTY, ANYWAY, GENERATES UP TO TENFOLD THE COST OF THE SALARY FOR THAT POSITION IN GRANTS THAT ARE AVAILABLE. AND PUBLIC SAFETY AND FIRE REDUCTION GRANTS ARE A VERY HOT TOPIC, SO TO SPEAK. AND SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO, AND WE'RE GOING TO INCORPORATE THAT, HOPEFULLY, INTO THE NEXT YEAR'S FIRE CONTRACT BUDGET. AND WE'LL GET THAT GOING FORWARD. AND LASTLY, I MET WITH JJCC, THE JUVENILE JUSTICE COORDINATING COUNCIL MEMBERS, AND WE APPROVED THE UPDATED, AND WE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT, AND THIS IS THE JUVENILE JUSTICE COALITION, AND WE APPROVED THE UPDATED SHASTA COUNTY JUVENILE JUSTICE PLAN ADDENDUM REPORT. SO THAT'S GOOD NEWS. WE TWEAKED THAT AND CAME TO A GROUP VOTE ON THAT, AND THAT CONCLUDES MY COMMENTS. THANK YOU, SUPERVISOR LONG. SUPERVISOR HARMON. GOOD MORNING. WE'RE WORKING ON A IT SEEMS LIKE IT ALWAYS COMES AROUND TO RANCHES AND COWBOYS, BUT THAT'S MY DISTRICT OUT THERE. WE'RE WORKING ON ANOTHER RODEO IN PALISADRO FOR THE SEPTEMBER, AND I'LL KEEP YOU UPDATED ON THAT. BUT THERE'S A NEW BOARD FOR THAT RODEO, AND WE HAD A MEETING LAST WEEK, AND THERE'S A BUNCH OF MOVERS AND SHAKERS ON THAT BOARD, [00:10:01] AND WE FIGURED OR AT LEAST I FIGURED IF COTTONWOOD COULD DO IT. SO COULD PALISADRO, RIGHT? MACARTHUR, WE NEED ANOTHER RODEO. WE NEED A SPORT RODEO. WITH THAT, I DON'T HATE TO KEEP BRINGING THIS UP, BUT I'M GOING TO KEEP BRINGING IT UP. BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE A BROKEN RECORD, BUT IT'S GETTING, JUST LIKE I SAID, IT'S GOING TO GET WORSE AND WORSE AS TIME GOES ON. THE WOLVES FOR THE RANCHERS, IT'S A BIG DEAL. IT'S OCCUPYING A LOT OF OUR TIME. WE HAD MEETING LAST WEEK WITH AT JOHN INGRAM OFFICE. IT WAS WELL ATTENDED. WE HAD THE NEW DIRECTOR FOR FISH AND GAME, MEGAN. I CAN'T SAY HER LAST NAME RIGHT NOW. ANYWAY, MEGAN WAS THERE FROM SACRAMENTO AND THEN WE I THINK THERE WAS 15 PEOPLE IN AROUND THAT TABLE THAT THAT BETWEEN RANCHERS AND THE STATE TRAPPER AND THE FISH GAME OFFICERS. BUT ANYWAY, THE BIG SUBJECT FOR US IS MAYBE WE CAN GET THAT GRANT WRITER TO HELP US WITH A GRANT FOR A WOLF LIAISON. WE'RE WORKING ON GETTING A WOLF LIAISON THAT WILL REPRESENT AND KIND OF WORK WITH THE RANCHERS AND WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE LAW, YOU KNOW, AND GETTING IT MORE COORDINATED SO THAT WE KNOW WHERE THEY'RE AT, WHERE WE'VE GOT A PROBLEM AND WHAT WE NEED TO DO NEXT. I THINK THAT WAS A DIVERSION TACTIC AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING. AT THE VERY BEGINNING OF THE MEETING, WE WERE TOLD ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF GRIZZLY BEARS GETTING REINTRODUCED. AND AS I THOUGHT ABOUT THAT, AS THE WEEK WENT ON, I THOUGHT, WELL, THAT'S PERFECT. YOU WANT TO PROTECT THE WOLVES. DIVERSION TACTIC RIGHT BUT ANYWAYS THEN I HAD A MEETING ON THE 18TH WITH AT THE FIRM FOR ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH AND WE'RE DISCUSSING ALL THE ISSUES WITH SEPTIC SYSTEMS TRYING TO GET THAT A LITTLE MORE STREAMLINED AND A LITTLE MORE UNDERSTOOD BY ME FOR SURE AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TO HELP OUT WITH THAT EXPENSES ARE PRETTY HIGH FOR PEOPLE WHO WANT TO PUT THOSE IN GOT TO MEET WITH NOLDA THANK YOU. AND OUR CONTROLLER AND DISCUSS A BUNCH OF THINGS. ONE OF THEM WAS THE TOT MONEY. MET WITH DAVE RICKERT. ALWAYS A PLEASURE TO MEET WITH DAVE AND GET HIS INPUT ON EVERYTHING AND FIND OUT WHERE WE'RE AT AND WHAT'S GOING ON THERE. AND I THINK THAT'S ABOUT IT. I'LL TURN IT OVER. THANK YOU, SUPERVISOR HERMAN. SUPERVISOR CRAIG. THANK YOU, CHAIR. I MET WITH QUITE A FEW OF THE APPLICANTS FOR THE ASSESSMENT APPEALS BOARD. THAT'S I BELIEVE R3 OR R4. TOOK QUITE A BIT OF TIME ON THAT. I THINK THAT'S A REALLY IMPORTANT BOARD. THERE'S A LOT OF IMPORTANT BOARDS AND COMMITTEES THAT PEOPLE AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS VOLUNTEER TO SERVE ON AND I THINK THAT'S A CRITICAL ONE. SO SPENT QUITE A BIT OF TIME WITH APPLICANTS. I ALSO HAD A MEETING WITH DR. NORM HALL AND SOME OF HIS STAFF AT SIMSPON AS WELL AS THE MEMBER OF THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES WHO'S ALSO THE CHAIR OF THE OPERATIONS COMMITTEE, AND HE'S JUST A COMMUNITY GIANT, BUT JOSH BARKER WAS IN THAT MEETING AND WE DISCUSSED FUNDING ABOUT THE MEDICAL SCHOOL THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON FOR QUITE SOME TIME, NOT JUST THIS BOARD, BUT THE PAST BOARD AS WELL. THE USDA AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL STILL IS LOOKING TO PUSH MONEY INTO RURAL COMMUNITIES AND I THINK IMPROVING HEALTH CARE WITH FEDERAL DOLLARS IS AN ABSOLUTE HOME RUN. MY POSITION HASN'T CHANGED ON THAT. NOW IT'S JUST REALLY IT BECOMES A WORK OF BEING CREATIVE OF HOW WE'RE GOING TO GET THAT FUNDING, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THE COUNTY CAN'T, BY AND LARGE, JUST PAY FOR THAT OURSELVES. BUT WE STILL HAVE THREE DIFFERENT UNIVERSITIES THAT ARE INTERESTED IN THOSE PARTNERSHIPS AND ARE CONTINUING THOSE CONVERSATIONS. WE'VE ALREADY SEEN AN IMPROVED NUMBER OF RESIDENCIES HERE. AND FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, TALKING TO ANTHONY BAYNARD AND SOME OTHER PEOPLE THAT ARE DOING RECRUITING OF PHYSICIANS, IT'S ACTUALLY IMPROVING QUITE A BIT. SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THOSE. CONVERSATIONS CONTINUING IN THAT SAME VEIN, I INVITED DR. ERICA PAHN, WHO IS THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA'S PUBLIC HEALTH DIRECTOR TO SHASTA COUNTY. I THINK IT WAS ABOUT SIX OR EIGHT MONTHS AGO I INVITED HER. WELL, HER TEAM CAME THIS PAST WEEK. NOW, SHE WASN'T ABLE TO MAKE IT. SHE HAD A FAMILY EMERGENCY, BUT HER WHOLE TEAM STILL CAME, AND SO DID HER ASSISTANT DIRECTOR, DR. RITA NGUYEN. AND WE MET AT THE PUBLIC MARKET, HAD A GOOD CONVERSATION THERE, AND I KNOW THAT SHE SPENT AND HER TEAM SPENT A LOT OF TIME WITH PUBLIC HEALTH, HHSA, AND VARIOUS ORGANIZATIONS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY. BUT WHAT WAS GREAT [00:15:01] FOR ME IS I HAD A CHANCE TO INVITE RITA OVER TO MY NINJA GYM. AFTER THEIR MEETINGS WERE OVER BEFORE SHE HEADED OUT OF TOWN AND WE CONNECTED REALLY ON A DEEP LEVEL BECAUSE DR. POND IS AN EPI DEME THANK YOU EPIDEMIOLOGIST SO HER REAL FOCUS AND DRIVE IS ABOUT INFECTIOUS DISEASE, WHICH I THINK IS VERY CRITICAL RITA THOUGH ON THE OTHER HAND AS THE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR LIKE HER BIG FOCUS IS CHILDREN AND FAMILIES AND PREVENTATIVE MEDICINE AND ALSO, JUST THOSE EARLY YEARS OF FOUNDATION THAT REALLY SET A PERSON'S HEALTH UP. SO WE GOT A CHANCE TO TALK ABOUT A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS WE COULD BE DOING IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE STATE TO IMPROVE THE LIVES OF YOUNG PEOPLE AND FAMILIES AND SERVICES WE COULD POSSIBLY BE ABLE TO GET THEM IN. AND ON TOP OF THAT, SHE WAS REALLY, REALLY A BIG FAN OF IMPROVING MEDICAL CARE AND ACCESS TO MEDICAL CARE FOR PEOPLE. SO I'M REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO BEING ABLE TO BRING SOME THINGS BACK. ABOUT ITEMS WE'RE WORKING ON. I HAD A COUPLE MEETINGS WITH COUNTY COUNCIL AS WELL AS CEO DAVE RICKERT, JUST LIKE WE ALL HAVE, AND I'M JUST, I'M REALLY, REALLY THANKFUL THAT WE HAVE THIS KIND OF TURNOUT TODAY AND THAT PEOPLE ARE THIS ENGAGED WITH LOCAL GOVERNMENT. I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT. SO WITH THAT, CHAIR, I'M GOOD. THANK YOU, SUPERVISOR CURRY. SUPERVISOR PLUMMER. GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE. GOOD TO SEE YOU. A NUMBER OF UPDATES HERE. I'LL TRY TO GO PRETTY QUICKLY. SO I AND PARTICIPATING IN THE PG&E LOCAL LEADERS ENERGY ROUNDTABLE. IF YOU GO BACK TO OUR STRATEGIC PLAN SURVEY FROM THE FALL, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS NOTED BY YOU ALL AND THE 2,000 FOLKS WHO TOOK THE SURVEY WAS THAT UTILITY PRICES AND AFFORDABILITY IS A CHALLENGE, PARTICULARLY IN THE UNINCORPORATED AREA. I KNOW IN THE CITY OF READING, THAT'S A BIG DISCUSSION RIGHT NOW IN TERMS OF REU RATES AS WELL. I'VE BEEN INTERESTED IN PARTICIPATING IN THAT, AND AS PART OF THAT PROGRAM, I WAS ABLE TO GO DOWN TO SAN LUIS OBISPO AND VISIT DIABLO CANYON, WHICH IS THE ONLY NUCLEAR POWER PLANT IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA CURRENTLY, AND IT PROVIDES 9% OF THE STATE'S TOTAL ENERGY IN A RELATIVELY SMALL AREA, WHICH WAS PRETTY FASCINATING TO GO INTO THIS BUILDING THAT HAS THE TURBINES THAT ARE GENERATING THE POWER FOR ONE OUT OF TEN CALIFORNIANS. AND THE INTERESTING THING, WELL TWO THINGS ARE INTERESTING. ONE IS THAT THE STATE ALMOST DECOMMISSIONED THAT BACK IN 2021, WHICH WOULD HAVE PUT US IN A REALLY BAD POSITION, BUT FORTUNATELY DECIDED TO KEEP IT ONLINE. AND THEN THE OTHER THING, WHICH IS A BIG TOPIC WHEN IT COMES TO NUCLEAR ENERGY, IS NUCLEAR WASTE. AND WHAT WAS FASCINATING TO SEE IS THAT, SO THEY TAKE THE WAY THE NUCLEAR WASTE, THE BYPRODUCTS, THE ESSENTIALLY USED UP RODS, AND THEY PUT THEM IN THESE CERAMIC CANISTERS THAT ARE PROBABLY ABOUT 10 FEET TALL AND ONLY ABOUT THREE OR FOUR FEET IN DIAMETER. AND ALL THE WASTE THAT THEY'VE GENERATED IN ABOUT 40 YEARS OF OPERATING, IT FITS IN THE SIZE ON THIS KIND OF PLATFORM, YOU COULD CALL IT, THAT'S THE SIZE OF A FOOTBALL FIELD. SO IT'S REALLY NOT GENERATING A LOT OF WASTE AND THE OTHER THING IS THAT IT COULD BE RECYCLED AND USED. IN FACT, ONE OF THE FACTS THAT I FOUND REALLY FASCINATING IS THEY SAID IF ALL THE NUCLEAR WASTE OR BYPRODUCT THAT HAS BEEN GENERATED BY ALL NUCLEAR FACILITIES IN THE U.S. TO DATE WERE TO BE RECYCLED AND REUSED, IT WOULD POWER ALL NUCLEAR ENERGY PLANTS IN THE U.S. FOR 20 YEARS. AND SO I THINK REALLY AS WE LOOK TO THE FUTURE AND WE OPERATE, AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT A SOLAR FARM LATER TODAY, BUT AS WE OPERATE WITHIN THE CONSTRAINTS PUT ON US BY THE STATE IN TERMS OF ENERGY, THAT WE SHOULD BE KIND OF RE-LOOKING AT THIS AS A PATH FORWARD. SO EXCITED TO CONTINUE TO LEARN MORE ABOUT THAT. I WAS ABLE TO GO UP TO BEND, OREGON THERE TO SEE A DEMONSTRATION BY A COMPANY CALLED BURNBOT, WHICH IS DEVELOPING SOME NEW TECHNOLOGY THAT CLEARS. LAND FOR WILDFIRE MITIGATION AND I WOULD SAY IT WAS INTERESTING TO SEE YOU KNOW THEY HAVE THESE REMOTE CONTROLLED FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERMINOLOGY MASTICATORS SO YOU KNOW THERE'S NO DRIVER ON IT BUT THEY'RE THEY'RE CONTROLLING IT YOU KNOW FROM A DISTANCE AND IT WAS INTERESTING TO SEE THAT I THINK THE TECHNOLOGY WILL CONTINUE TO GET BETTER THERE SO THAT WE CAN GET MORE EFFICIENT BECAUSE AS SUPERVISOR LONG HAS TALKED ABOUT AND AS CHIEF O'HARA TALKS ABOUT THERE ARE SO MANY ACRES THAT WE WANT TO DO THINNING ON, THAT WE WANT TO CLEAR THE BIOMASS AND THE UNDERBRUSH. BUT CURRENTLY, IT IS EITHER VERY EXPENSIVE TO DO THAT OR IT'S A VERY SLOW PROCESS BECAUSE IN MANY CASES, YOU HAVE TO CREATE THE PILES, THEN COME BACK AND BURN THE PILES AFTERWARDS. AND IT'S A PRETTY INEFFICIENT PROCESS. AND SO IF WE CAN USE TECHNOLOGY IN THE FUTURE TO BE ABLE TO. DO THAT MUCH MORE EFFICIENTLY AND COST-EFFECTIVELY, THAT WILL BE A BIG WIN. SO EXCITED TO SEE THINGS CONTINUE [00:20:02] TO DEVELOP ON THAT FRONT. RELATED TO THE TECHNOLOGY PIECE AND WILDFIRE, I WAS ABLE TO DO A TOUR OF OUR CAREER TECHNICAL EDUCATION PROGRAMS WITHIN THE SHASTA UNION HIGH SCHOOL DISTRICT, WHICH IS REALLY FASCINATING. I BELIEVE THEY HAVE ABOUT 40 WHAT'S CALLED CTE PROGRAMS AND THAT'S REALLY, YOU KNOW, PREPARING THE WORK FOR OR PREPARING OUR HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS FOR JOBS COMING RIGHT OUT OF HIGH SCHOOL. SO I WAS ABLE TO STEP INTO A CLASSROOM WHERE HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS WILL COME OUT WITH A MEDICAL ASSISTANT CERTIFICATE THAT THEY CAN GO STRAIGHT INTO THE WORKFORCE AND BEGIN WORKING. A PHARMACY TECH CERTIFICATE WHERE I SAW SOME STUDENTS PREPARING AN IV. SO I REALLY AM EXCITED ABOUT THAT AS A WAY TO GET FOLKS IN OUR COMMUNITY, OUR YOUNG PEOPLE, INTO THE WORKFORCE QUICKLY WITHOUT INCURRING HUGE AMOUNTS OF DEBT. THAT IS MORE CUSTOMARY FROM A FOUR-YEAR DEGREE AND FOUR-YEAR EDUCATION. ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT I WAS WORKING ON WITH A FEW COUNTY DEPARTMENTS, THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY, PUBLIC DEFENDER, AND PROBATION, IS THAT APPARENTLY EVERY YEAR THERE'S WHAT'S CALLED CONGRESSIONALLY DIRECTED SPENDING, WHERE OUR SENATORS OR OUR CONGRESSMEN AND WOMEN CAN ESSENTIALLY APPROVE REQUESTS FOR FUNDING. AND SO I LEARNED ABOUT THAT THIS YEAR, A WEEK BEFORE THE DUE DATE, AND SO REACHED OUT TO A NUMBER OF COUNTY DEPARTMENTS TO SEE IF THERE WAS AN INTEREST. AND SO WE WERE ABLE TO PUT TOGETHER WHAT I BELIEVE IS A STRONG APPLICATION THAT WILL REALLY HELP IMPROVE THE EFFICIENCY OF OUR PUBLIC SAFETY DEPARTMENTS. SO ONE OF THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT LAST YEAR WAS THAT WITH ALL LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES IN THE AREA COMING ONLINE WITH BODY CAMERAS. THAT THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY, THE PUBLIC DEFENDER, HAVE A LOT OF VIDEO FOOTAGE TO REVIEW, AND THAT CAN TAKE A LONG TIME. AND SO WE SUBMITTED AN APPLICATION FOR FUNDING TO GET A SOFTWARE THAT WILL BOTH STORE AND REVIEW THAT AND ALSO THAT USES AI TO BE ABLE TO BASICALLY IDENTIFY WHAT PARTS OF, SAY, A TWO-HOUR-LONG VIDEO RECORDING ARE ACTUALLY WORTH LOOKING AT. SO HOPEFUL THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO SECURE THAT FUNDING. AND I'LL STOP WITH THAT SINCE I'M ALREADY OVER TIME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SUPERVISOR PLUMMER. ALL RIGHT. ON THE 11TH, I ATTENDED A BLACK BUTTE SCHOOL BOARD MEETING UP IN BELOW SHINGLETOWN THERE AT BLACK BUTTE. THEY HAVE A NEW SUPERINTENDENT, AND HE'S FACING A LOT OF TOUGH DECISIONS. SO THEY TOOK SOME COVID MONEY AND FUNDED SOME POSITIONS, AND NOW THAT COVID MONEY IS GONE AND THE POSITIONS ARE STILL THERE. SO THERE WAS TALK ABOUT CLOSING THE PRESCHOOL PROGRAM. THERE WAS TALK ABOUT CONDENSING THE TWO CAMPUSES. THERE'S AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL CAMPUS, AND DOWN BELOW THERE'S A JUNIOR HIGH CAMPUS. THERE USED TO BE ONE CAMPUS BACK IN THE DAY, SO THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT CONDENSING THOSE AGAIN. SO AGAIN, SOME REALLY TOUGH DECISIONS THAT THEY HAVE TO MAKE. ON THE 12TH, I WENT TO A MACUMBER MEETING, AND MARK MAZZANO WAS THERE, WHO IS HEATHER HADWICK'S AIDE. SO THE MACUMBER AND NORTH VALKYRIE RESERVOIR, I'LL BRING THEM UP AGAIN BECAUSE WE NEED A LOT OF ATTENTION ON THESE. BOTH THOSE LAKES ARE IN DANGER OF BEING DRAINED, PG&E DID NOT RENEW THEIR FERC LICENSE, AND WITHOUT GENERATING POWER, THEY'VE ALREADY DECOMMISSIONED SOME OF THE POWERHOUSES DOWN THE BATTLE CREEK CANYON INTO MANTON AND DOWN INTO TAME COUNTY. SO WITHOUT GENERATING POWER, THERE'S REALLY NO NEED FOR THOSE LAKES. SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THAT FOR ABOUT FOUR YEARS NOW. THE LAND AROUND NORTH VALLEY RESERVOIR WAS DEEDED TO THE FOREST SERVICE, AND THE LAND AROUND GRAYSON-NORRA LAKE, WHICH IS FED FROM TWO DITCHES FROM NORTH BOUNDARY RESERVOIR THEY WERE DUE TO DECAL FIRE SO THE RESIDENTS OF THE MCCUMBER AREA REALIZED THAT THEIR LAKE ISN'T THREATENED TO BE YOU KNOW DECOMMISSIONED OR DRAINED SO THEY'RE WORKING DILIGENTLY UP THERE. THEY'VE GOT A COMMITTEE NOW THEY'VE GOT A GROUP AND SO THAT WAS THE MEETING THERE SATURDAY THE 14TH WAS THE SECOND SATURDAY MONTH SO AS ALWAYS I WENT TO THE VFW BREAKFAST ANDERSON, WORE MY VFW SHIRT THERE THAT THEY GAVE ME, AND THEN CHANGED SHIRTS AND DROVE UP TO SHINGLETOWN WITH MY SHINGLETOWN VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT SHIRT THAT THEY GAVE ME UP THERE ONE YEAR. AND THEN THAT SAME DAY ON THE 14TH, WE HAD A CELEBRATION OF LIFE FOR DOROTHY SARSFIELD, WHOSE DAUGHTER IS IN ATTENDANCE TODAY. DOROTHY WAS THE LADY THAT I REPORTED ON THAT I'D GONE TO HER 105TH BIRTHDAY PARTY, AND UNFORTUNATELY SHE PASSED A COUPLE WEEKS AFTER. SO IT WAS A GREAT CELEBRATION OF LIFE AND YOU KNOW IT'S SAD TO SEE HER GONE BUT SHE LIVED A VERY FULL LIFE AND WAS A VERY AMAZING WOMAN. AND THEN THAT NIGHT WE HAD AN ANDERSON SENIOR CENTER FUNDRAISER. THEY'RE TRYING TO GET A NEW ROOF ON THE ANDERSON SENIOR CENTER SO I WENT TO THAT FUNDRAISER. IT WAS A GREAT TIME. TRISH CLARK DID A FANTASTIC JOB AS ALWAYS. ON THE 16TH I HAD A ROBBER MEETING AND ON THE 17TH I HAD A MEETING. I ATTENDED THE MEETING THAT SUPERVISOR CRYE HAD TALKED ABOUT WITH NORM HALL. [00:25:02] AND DR. LYNN. IS IT LYNN? LYNN. OKAY. AND THEN LATER ON, I WENT TO A MEETING AT SIMPSON COLLEGE WITH NORM HALL ON THE VIABILITY OF THE MEDICAL SCHOOL. ON THE 18TH, I ATTENDED AN EDC MEETING, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT MEETING, WITH REBECCA BAIRD AND HER BOARD. AND THEN LATER THAT NIGHT, I WENT UP TO SHINGLETOWN. SO ON THE 18TH, THEY CELEBRATED ST. PADDY'S DAY UP THERE ON THE DAY AFTER ST. PADDY'S. BUT AGAIN, I THINK I REPORTED ABOUT THREE YEARS IN A ROW NOW. THE BEST CORNED BEEF AND CABBAGE I'VE EVER HAD IS MADE BY ROBERT, THE OWNER OF THE PIONEER PIZZA. SO THAT WAS A GREAT TIME. GOT TO SEE ALL MY SHINGLETOWN FOLKS. ON THE 19TH, I HAD AN AGENDA REVIEW, AND THEN I ATTENDED THE WOLF MEETING WITH SUPERVISOR HARMON AND JOHN INGRAM. IT WAS A GREAT MEETING, AND WE DID LEARN SOMETHING THAT DAY. SO ONE OF THE RANCHERS WAS CONCERNED. HE SAYS, YOU KNOW, IT'S REALLY HARD TO SIT BACK AND WATCH ONE OF YOUR COWS GET EATEN, AND THERE'S NOTHING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT. YOU CAN'T CHASE THEM. YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING. WE ACTUALLY LEARNED IN THAT MEETING WITH THE WOLF SPECIALIST FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF FISH AND WILDLIFE. THAT YOU CAN CHASE THE WOLVES AWAY FROM YOUR ANIMALS. SO IF THEY'RE A QUARTER MILE FROM YOUR HOUSE OR A QUARTER MILE FROM YOUR LIVESTOCK, YOU DO HAVE THE RIGHT TO CHASE THEM AWAY FROM YOUR LIVESTOCK. SO APPARENTLY YOU CAN ONLY CHASE THEM A QUARTER MILE AWAY FROM YOUR LIVESTOCK, BUT THAT PROBABLY WILL BE GOOD ENOUGH FOR AN HOUR OR SO. AND THEN I HAD A DEPUTY DA'S ASSOCIATION INTERVIEW WITH NOLAN WEBER AND HIS ASSISTANT DAS THAT EVENING. AND THEN ON THE 20TH, I ATTENDED A HEMP CRETE. HOUSE PROJECT. SO HEMP CRETE, I HONESTLY THINK IT'S GOING TO BE THE PRODUCT OF THE FUTURE TO BUILD HOUSES WITH. SUPERVISOR LONG, YOU WOULD HAVE LIKED TO HAVE BEEN THERE. SO HEMP CRETE IS PRETTY MUCH FIREPROOF. JUST THE PANELS OVER 2X4 CONSTRUCTION HAVE A 47R INSULATION VALUE. THEY'RE BREATHABLE. IT'S ACTUALLY AN AMAZING PRODUCT. IT'S MADE WITH LIMESTONE DUST OR POWDER AND HEMP FIBERS. AND THEY HAVE VIDEOS OF THEM LITERALLY HOLDING A BLOWTORCH TO THE HEMP. AND IT WILL NOT LIGHT, IT WILL NOT IGNITE. SO THERE'S A FAMILY THAT WAS CONCERNED ABOUT AFTER THE CARR FIRE, AND THEY WANT TO BUILD A HOUSE DOWN THERE BETWEEN ANDERSON AND COTTONWOOD, AND THEY WANT TO BUILD IT OUT OF HEMPCRETE. SO THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO JUMP THROUGH THE HOOPS. IT'S AN ALTERNATIVE MATERIAL. IT'S NOT IN THE CALIFORNIA BUILDING CODE, BUT IT PROBABLY WILL BE NEXT YEAR. SO A VERY INTERESTING PROJECT. AND THEN THE 21ST, I ATTENDED A I ACTUALLY AUCTIONEERED A FUNDRAISER FOR ROOTS CHARTER SCHOOL OUT AT CORKY HARMON'S PLACE, ACTUALLY, IN PALISADRO. AND THEN YESTERDAY WE HAD A SHASTA COUNTY CHAMBER MARKETING MEETING. SUPERVISOR HARMON WAS IN ATTENDANCE, AND I GOT A BUZZER, SO I GUESS THAT'S MY TIME. SO ANYWAYS, THAT ACTUALLY CONCLUDES MY REPORT ANYWAYS. ALL RIGHT, MOVING ON. [R2 Adopt a proclamation which designates April 2026, as “Child Abuse Prevention Month” in Shasta County (Sponsored by Supervisor Kelstrom).] R1, EXCUSE ME, R2, ADOPTED PROCLAMATION WHICH DESIGNATES APRIL 2025 AS CHILD ABUSE PREVENTION MONTH. I THINK WE HAVE SOME HHS. OKAY, DO YOU GUYS WANT TO PRESENT OR DO YOU WANT ME TO READ THE PROCLAMATION FIRST? OKAY, LET'S READ THE PROCLAMATION. AND THEN WE'LL HAVE THEM PRESENT. OKAY. I'M GETTING OLD. WHEREAS, AS A SOCIETY, WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO NURTURE AND PROTECT OUR CHILDREN AND HELP ENSURE THEY BECOME HEALTHY AND PRODUCTIVE ADULTS. AND WHEREAS, THE CENTERS FOR DISEASE CONTROL AND PREVENTION RANKS CHILD ABUSE AMONG AMERICA'S TOP PUBLIC HEALTH CRISIS. AND WHEREAS, SCIENTIFIC STUDIES CONFIRM A DIRECT LINK BETWEEN CHILD ABUSE AND A SIGNIFICANT SIGNIFICANTLY GREATER RISK LATER IN LIFE FOR SUBSTANCE ABUSE, CRIMINAL BEHAVIOR, SUICIDE, EATING DISORDERS, SMOKING, AND PREMATURE DEATH FROM CHRONIC DISEASE, CANCER, AND OTHER SERIOUS ILLNESSES. AND WHEREAS EDUCATING OUR COMMUNITY ON THE PREVENTION OF CHILD ABUSE AND NEGLECT BECOMES A PRIORITY AS AN EFFORT TO SUPPORT PARENTS AND CAREGIVERS IN RAISING THEIR CHILDREN IN A SAFE NURTURING ENVIRONMENT. AND WHEREAS IN 2024 SHASTA COUNTY HAD TWO TIMES THE NUMBER OF SUBSTANTIATED CHILD ABUSE ALLEGATIONS INCIDENTS PER 01,000 CHILDREN THAN THE CALIFORNIA STATE AVERAGE. AND WHEREAS IN SHASTA COUNTY THERE ARE NUMEROUS COMMITTED AGENCIES, SCHOOLS, PARENTS, RELATIVES, COMMUNITY VOLUNTEERS, PUBLIC POLICY MAKERS, AND PROFESSIONALS WHO ARE COLLABORATING THEIR EFFORT TO ELIMINATE CHILD ABUSE AND NEGLECT IN THE COUNTY AND PROVIDE PATHWAYS TO HOPE AND HEALING FOR CHILDREN AND FAMILIES. NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE SHASTA COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS HEREBY PROCLAIMS APRIL 2026 AS CHILD ABUSE PREVENTION AWARENESS MONTH IN SHASTA COUNTY AND ENCOURAGES OUR COMMUNITY TO JOIN THE EFFORTS OF ALL PARTNERS TO PREVENT CHILD ABUSE AND NEGLECT AND BUILD HEALTHY, SAFE, AND NURTURING FAMILIES. AND COMMUNITIES AND WITH THAT I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE PROCLAMATION I HAVE A MOTION BY ME SECOND BY SUPERIORS ARE LONG OKAY IF YOU GUYS WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT GOOD MORNING, SHASTA COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS RECOGNITION. I, ALONG WITH OUR AGENCY, ARE SO VERY HONORED TO STAND HERE AND ACCEPT THE PROCLAMATION FOR APRIL AS CHILD ABUSE PREVENTION MONTH. THIS IS A TIME WHEN WE COME TOGETHER TO SHINE LIGHT ON AN ISSUE THAT'S OFTEN KEPT IN THE DARKNESS. THE MONTH OF APRIL IS NOT JUST A REMINDER OF THE CHALLENGES THAT MANY CHILDREN FACE, BUT REALLY A CALL TO ACTION FOR EVERY ONE OF US. PREVENTING CHILD ABUSE, EXCUSE ME ISN'T THE WORK OF ONE SINGLE PERSON OR ONE SINGLE ORGANIZATION. IT'S A SHARED RESPONSIBILITY. IT LIVES IN THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE HAVE, [00:30:01] THE SUPPORT WE OFFER FAMILIES, THE SYSTEMS THAT WE STRENGTHEN, AND THE COMMUNITIES THAT WE BUILD. ON BEHALF OF THE SOCIAL WORKERS, ADVOCATES, EDUCATORS, CAREGIVERS, LOCAL SERVICE PROVIDERS, AND SURVIVORS WHO INSPIRE THIS WORK EVERY DAY, WORDS CANNOT BEGIN TO EXPRESS MY DEEPEST GRATITUDE TO YOU ALL. BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY, TO THE CHILDREN WE SEEK TO PROTECT. MAY WE CONTINUE WORKING TOGETHER TO CREATE SAFER HOMES, STRONGER SUPPORT NETWORKS, AND A WORLD WHERE EVERY CHILD GROWS UP NURTURED, VALUED, AND PROTECTED. IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE IN SHASTA COUNTY ACKNOWLEDGE ALL THE EFFORTS THAT ARE DONE TO PREVENT OUR LEVELS OF CHILD ABUSE AND NEGLECT. BUT I DO WANT TO SAY THAT THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING WITH AGENCIES LIKE RAISING SHASTA AND OUR FIRST FIVE, WE ARE DOING GREAT WORK. THIS TIME LAST YEAR, OUR NUMBERS WERE THREE TIMES THE STATE AVERAGE, AND NOW WE'RE TWO TIMES THE STATE AVERAGE. SO IT'S WORKING. WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WORKING, AND THAT'S BECAUSE OF EVERYONE HERE AND BECAUSE OF OUR COLLABORATION WITH JENNA BERRY AND WENDY DICKENS AND OUR SHASK COMMUNITY HEALTH CENTER FOLKS AND ALL THE FOLKS THAT WE WORK TOGETHER WITH TO DO ALL THIS PREVENTATIVE SERVICE AND TO MEET FAMILIES WHERE THEY ARE AND REALLY PROVIDE CHILDREN WITH WHAT THEY NEED SO IT IS VERY MUCH APPRECIATED TO HAVE THIS PROCLAMATION ALL RIGHT THANK YOU VERY MUCH DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT WE DO CHAIR WE HAVE ONE SPEAKER DOLORES LUCERO GOOD MORNING TO YOU ALL. GLAD TO SEE THIS CROWD TODAY. I JUST WANT TO SAY ABOUT THIS ITEM, ITEM R2. YOU TALK ABOUT CHILD ABUSE PREVENTION. IT'S AN ITEM THAT'S PUT ON THE AGENDA, BUT WHAT DO YOU AS BOARD OF SUPERVISORS DO FOR THOSE FAMILIES OR FOR THOSE CHILDREN? DO YOU JUST PUT THE ITEM ON THERE JUST TO TALK ABOUT IT AND DO A PROCLAMATION AND JUST HONOR THE PEOPLE? BECAUSE I KNOW IN FACT THAT SOME OF THE FAMILY HAS COME TO YOU AND ASKED FOR HELP IN REGARDING A CHILD ABUSE IN THE COURT SYSTEM AND YOU HAVE DONE NOTHING. SO HOW CAN YOU SIT THERE AND BRING THIS ITEM LIKE PRAISING THIS ITEM? BUT YET YOU DON'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT THOSE FAMILIES WHO ACTUALLY, THEIR CHILDREN ARE GETTING ABUSED BY THE COURT SYSTEM, BY YOUR OWN GOVERNMENT THAT YOU BELONG TO. WHAT ABOUT THOSE PARENTS AND THOSE CHILDREN? WHAT ARE YOU DOING ABOUT THEM? BECAUSE I KNOW THAT SOMEBODY CAME TO PLUMMER AT ONE TIME AND ASKED FOR HELP WHEN THE CHILD WAS GETTING MOLESTED BY THE FATHER. AND YOU DIDN'T DO ANYTHING. SAME THING WITH KEVIN CRAIG. HE'S AWARE OF IT. SO YOU, CHRIS, YOU'RE AWARE OF THAT PERSON WHO CAME TO YOU GUYS, AND YOU GUYS DID NOTHING. NOTHING. YOUR JOB IS TO OVERSEE THE GOVERNMENT. BASICALLY, YOU'RE THE GOVERNMENT. YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO OVERSEE WHAT THE PEOPLE'S NEEDS ARE TO PREVENT THIS KIND OF ABUSE. AND YOU'RE ALLOWING IT BECAUSE YOU DON'T DO ANYTHING. HOW CAN YOU EVEN JUST SIT THERE AND DO NOTHING FOR THESE PEOPLE? YOU KNOW HOW MANY TIMES THAT I HEAR PEOPLE SAY, WHY COME TO CABIN CRYE? I WENT TO PLUMMER, HE DOES NOTHING. TO CHRIS, YOU GUYS DO NOTHING. THEY ALSO REACH OUT TO MR. CORKY, WHO DOESN'T KNOW NOTHING. AND YOU GUYS DON'T DO NOTHING. ALL HE DOES IS TAKE HIS EMAILS, WHICH WE KNOW HE DOESN'T READ THEM. MR. PLUMMER, YOU'RE ON DISTRICT I'M VERY DISAPPOINTED WITH YOU, BECAUSE THERE'S SO MANY FAMILIES WHO ACTUALLY HAVE SOME ISSUES REGARDING CHILD ABUSE AND YOU'VE DONE NOTHING BUT YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, NOTHING AT ALL TO HELP THOSE FAMILIES. I'M VERY DISAPPOINTED AND I'M SO GLAD I NEVER VOTED FOR YOU BECAUSE THE NEXT TIME I WANT TO RUN AGAINST YOU BECAUSE YOU DO NOTHING FOR OUR DISTRICT. I'M SO MAD AT THIS WHAT YOU DON'T DO FOR THE PEOPLE. YOU DON'T REPRESENT THE PEOPLE, YOU REPRESENT YOURSELF AND THOSE CHILDREN NOT BEING NOT BEING REPRESENTED. WHEN YOU DON'T REPRESENT THOSE FAMILIES YOU'RE NOT REPRESENTING THE CHILDREN EITHER. YOU KNOW THAT WHEN THEY REACH OUT TO YOU AND YOU IGNORE THEM YOU'RE IGNORING THE CHILDREN. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. SO WITH THAT, WE WILL TAKE A VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? [00:35:01] AYE. ANY OPPOSED? PASSES 5-0. LET'S TAKE A PICTURE. [R3 Take the following actions: (1) Receive a presentation from Family Dynamics Resource Center regarding the conditionally approved Behavioral Health Continuum Infrastructure Program, Round 2 grant through the California Department of Healthcare Services for the Pathways to Leadership Campus Expansion project; and (2) approve: (a) a request from Family Dynamics Resource Center to use Shasta County Opioid Litigation Settlement Funding as community match funding for the project; (b) a budget amendment increasing appropriations and revenue in the Opioid Settlement Budget (BU 430) in the amount of $1,920,506; and (c) a letter of support for the Pathways to Leadership Campus Expansion project and commit up to $1,920,506 from the County’s Opioid Litigation Settlement Funds as match funding for the project (Sponsored by Supervisor Crye).] ALL RIGHT, WITH THAT WE'LL MOVE ON TO R3. TAKE THE FOLLOWING ACTIONS. RECEIVE A PRESENTATION FROM FAMILY DYNAMICS RESOURCE CENTER REGARDING THE CONDITIONALLY APPROVED BEHAVIORAL HEALTH CONTINUUM INFRASTRUCTURE PROGRAM. ROUND 2 GRANT THROUGH THE CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH CARE SERVICES FOR THE PATHWAYS TO LEADERSHIP CAMPUS EXPANSION PROJECT AND APPROVE A REQUEST. FROM FAMILY DYNAMICS RESOURCE CENTER TO USE SHASTA COUNTY OPIOID LITIGATION SETTLEMENT FUNDING AS COMMUNITY MATCH FUNDING FOR THE PROJECT. A BUDGET AMENDMENT INCREASING APPROPRIATIONS AND REVENUE IN THE OPIOID SETTLEMENT BUDGET IN THE AMOUNT OF $1,920,506. ANY LETTER OF SUPPORT FOR THE PATHWAYS TO LEADERSHIP CAMPUS EXPANSION PROJECT AND COMMIT UP TO $1,920,506 FROM THE COUNTY'S OPIOID LITIGATION SETTLEMENT FUNDS AS MATCH FUNDING FOR THE PROJECT. THIS IS SPONSORED BY SUPERVISOR CRYE. DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO IT. YEAH, I CAN JUST INTRODUCE IT REALLY QUICK. THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME, CHAIR KALLSTROM, TO SPONSOR IT. I KNOW THAT YOU PROVIDED THE LETTER AS WELL, SO YOU COULD HAVE JUST AS WELL SPONSORED IT. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'M REALLY IMPRESSED WITH THIS ORGANIZATION, THIS GROUP, AND THIS IS VERY SIMILAR TO THE GOOD NEWS RESCUE MISSION AND THEN THE AMOUNT WE GAVE THEM WHEN THE BOARD HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO INVEST A NOMINAL AMOUNT OF MONEY FOR A REALLY, REALLY LARGE RETURN. IT'S JUST A NO-BRAINER. SO I THINK THIS PRESENTATION IS GOING TO BE GOOD FOR THE PUBLIC, AND I'M VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THE WORK THAT YOU AND YOUR TEAM, ANDERSON COMMUNITY CHURCH AND THE OTHERS, THE COUNTLESS THOUSANDS OF HOURS DONATED, BECAUSE THAT'S ONE OF THE BIG THINGS FOR ME WITH THIS, IS WHEN YOU REALLY PEEL BACK THE LAYERS OF WHERE THIS MONEY IS GOING AND HOW IT'S WORKING AND WHO HAS ACTUALLY COME TO THE TABLE TO MAKE IT WORK, THIS GROUP DID IT RIGHT, AND THERE'S A REASON WHY THEY GOT THE FUNDING. I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, SUPERVISOR CRYE. AND WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO DR. SANDRA WILSON. THANK YOU. I WANT TO APPRECIATE WITH MUCH GRATITUDE FROM FAMILY DYNAMICS AND ANDERSON COMMUNITY FOR YOUR SUPPORT ON THIS PROJECT. I'M PRIVILEGED TO REPRESENT FAMILY DYNAMICS AND ANDERSON COMMUNITY TO INTRODUCE OUR PATHWAYS TO LEADERSHIP PROGRAM. AND WE WERE HONORED WITH A CONDITIONAL AWARD FROM THE BCHIP. FUNDING AND OUT OF TWO HUNDRED AND FORTY APPLICANTS WE ARE ONE OF SIXTY SIX SELECTED THIS IS A MUCH NEEDED PROJECT FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND WHAT WE ARE PRESENTING HERE IS 60 TREATMENT BEDS WITH ONE MISSION, AND THAT IS TO SAVE LIVES. I'VE HEARD IT SPOKE ALREADY THIS MORNING ABOUT THE RATE OF CHILD ABUSE DECREASING FROM 3 TO 1 IN SHASTA COUNTY DOWN TO 2. SO WE ARE MAKING A DIFFERENCE, AND THIS IS HOW. 20 BEDS ARE ASSIGNED TO [00:40:01] CHILDREN'S CRISIS RESIDENTIAL PROGRAM. 30 BEDS ARE ASSIGNED TO ADOLESCENT SUBSTANCE USE TREATMENT. AND 10 BEDS FOR STABILIZATION AND TRANSITIONAL CARE. THIS STABILIZATION PROGRAM ALLOWS OUR AGING YOUTH GOING INTO ADULTHOOD TO HAVE SUPPORT BEFORE THEY'RE LAUNCHED OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY WITHOUT TRAINING AND SUPPORT INTO ADULTHOOD. WHAT YOU'RE SEEING HERE IS A 25,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING WITH FOUR FACILITIES UNDER ONE ROOF. THIS IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE THIS ALLOWS US TO RECEIVE YOUTH INTO OUR PROGRAMS, HAVING A LEVEL UP AND A LEVEL DOWN PROGRAM, MEANING THAT WE SAVE MONEY BY ASSESSING YOUTH AND WE'RE ABLE TO TRANSITION THEM DOWN INTO LOWER LEVELS OF CARE TO ASSIST OUR YOUTH AND GIVE THEM THE TREATMENT THAT IS MUCH NEEDED. SO ON THE RIGHT, IN THE UPPER RIGHT, YOU SEE OUR CRISIS CHILDREN UNIT. IT HAS 20 BEDS WITH A TRANSITIONAL BED IN THE CENTER, WHICH ALLOWS US TO CHANGE THE DEMOGRAPHICS. SO WHEN THE POPULATION NEEDS CHANGES BETWEEN MALE AND FEMALE, WE HAVE SOME FLEXIBILITY SO THAT EVERYONE HAS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR SERVICE. AGAIN, SIMILAR, THE 30 BED SUBSTANCE USE TREATMENT IS OVER ON THE LEFT, UPPER LEFT. IT HAS TWO EDUCATION ROOMS. BOTH FACILITIES HAVE A WORKING GYM, AN ACTIVITY CENTER. ON THE LOWER RIGHT WE HAVE THE PEER RESPITE BED CENTER. THIS IS WHERE OUR AGING YOUTH WILL LEARN TO TAKE CARE OF THEMSELVES THROUGH INDIVIDUALIZED APARTMENTS. THEY'LL HAVE THEIR OWN KITCHEN AND THEIR OWN BATHROOM AND THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR OWN FOOD. SO IN THE CENTER IS OUR FOURTH ELEMENT AND THAT IS OUR MENTAL HEALTH COUNSELING CENTER AND THAT IS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC AND AS YOU CAN SEE THERE ARE ENTRANCES TO EACH PROGRAM SO THAT WE CAN HAVE PRIVACY AND FOLLOW THE HIPAA GUIDELINES. THIS IS THE FRONT ELEVATION OF THE BUILDING AND WE SELECTED THIS DESIGN BECAUSE IT CLOSELY MATCHES A RESIDENTIAL HOME AND SO WE WANT THESE CHILDREN TO HAVE A HOME ENVIRONMENT THE FACILITY GOALS ARE IMMEDIATE ACCESS FOR YOUTH IN NEED STABILIZATION IN TIMES OF CRISIS WE PROVIDE EVIDENCE-BASED TREATMENT PROGRAMS AND THEN LEADERSHIP DEVELOPMENT THIS IS A LONG-TERM IMPACT AND IT HELPS YOUTH NOT RETURN BACK TO USE. WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT IN A FEW MOMENTS. HERE'S THE REALITY CHECK. WE LOSE YOUTH BEFORE THEY EVEN ARE IDENTIFIED. OUR OPIATE PROBLEM IS SO SIGNIFICANT THAT 90% OF ADOLESCENTS WHO DIE FROM OPIATE ABUSE DIED BEFORE THEY WERE DIAGNOSED OR TREATED. SO THE REALITY CHECK IS 90% OF OUR OPIATE DEATHS IN ADOLESCENTS OCCUR. BEFORE THEY EVEN HAD A CHANCE. SO THIS MATTERS BECAUSE WE ARE THE ONLY FACILITY NORTH OF SACRAMENTO AND WE WILL BE THE ONLY FACILITY THAT WILL PROVIDE ADOLESCENT TREATMENT ON AN INPATIENT BASIS. THE OPIATE AND FENTANYL USE IS FUELING AND IT IS RAPIDLY SURGING AMONG YOUTH. MOST OF THESE ADOLESCENTS DON'T EVEN KNOW THAT THEY'RE GETTING OPIATES THROUGH OTHER DRUGS SUCH AS MARIJUANA. AND DEATHS OCCUR EARLY IN USE BEFORE INTERVENTION CAN OCCUR. WHAT WE PROVIDE IS RAPID ACCESS TO CARE. WE PERSONALIZE AND STABILIZE TREATMENT SO THAT WE CAN UTILIZE THE UP AND DOWN LEVEL OF TREATMENT, AND THEN WE ARE DEVELOPING LEADERS, AND THIS IS WHERE THAT VOLUNTEERISM COMES INTO PLAY. OUR PROGRAM HAS UP TO 300 VOLUNTEERS THAT CAN TAKE THESE YOUTHS. OF COURSE, THERE'S FINGERPRINTED AND BACKGROUND SCREENED, BUT THESE ARE TRAINED VOLUNTEERS TO TAKE OUR YOUTH AND SHOW THEM A FUTURE THAT THEY DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THAT THEY HAD. THESE PROJECTS SAVE LIVES. IT'S A SINGLE-LEVEL FACILITY ALLOWING YOUTH FOR HAVING ADA COMPLIANCE, BUT THE MAIN THING IS THAT WE PROVIDE HOPE AND REAL SOLUTIONS FOR OUR VULNERABLE YOUTH. SO HERE'S THE POINT HERE. I'M SO APPRECIATIVE OF YOUR WILLINGNESS TO SUPPORT OUR PROGRAM. THE MAJORITY OF YOUTH DIE FROM OPIATE USE OVERDOSES BEFORE THEY EVEN HAD A CHANCE. SO THE REALITY IS THIS. [00:45:02] AS A THERAPIST SITTING ON THE OTHER SIDE OF A PARENT WHO HAS LOST A YOUTH TO SUBSTANCE USE, WHAT I GET TO TELL THEM, IT IS NOT THEIR FAULT. THEIR KID DIDN'T EVEN HAVE A CHANCE AT TREATMENT. AND THAT'S MY PRESENTATION TODAY, AND MY GRATITUDE GOES TO YOU FOR SUPPORTING A PROJECT LIKE THIS THAT MEANS SO MUCH TO THIS COMMUNITY. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SUPERVISOR LONG, BEFORE WE GO TO BOARD DISCUSSION, WOULD YOU MIND IF WE HAD PUBLIC COMMENT? ALL RIGHT. MS. BLANKENSHIP, DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS? WE DO, CHAIR. WE HAVE EIGHT SPEAKERS. FIRST UP, DAWN DUCKETT, FOLLOWED BY DAVID HALLIGAN, MARGARET HANSON, THEN CHRISTIAN. IF I CALLED YOUR NAME, PLEASE GET IN QUEUE. WELCOME. GOOD MORNING BOARD. I'VE BEEN VERY PUBLIC SPEAKING ABOUT MY SON WHO WAS ADDICTED TO HEROIN AND THE PROGRAMS IN THE COUNTY REHABILITATION AND PROGRAMS THAT CHANGED HIS LIFE. AND SO I'M ALL IN FAVOR FOR OPIOID MONEY GOING TOWARDS ADDITIONAL TREATMENT BEDS FOR. ADDICTED INDIVIDUALS. I WANT TO IMPLORE THE BOARD TO CONSIDER THE BANG FOR YOUR BUCK. THIS PROPOSAL LOOKS GREAT, I'M NOT AGAINST IT, BUT TO ALSO CONSIDER THAT THERE ARE EXISTING PROGRAMS PROVIDING SERVICES THAT COULD SIMPLY BE EXPANDED RATHER THAN A BUILD-OUT. AND THEN ALSO SPEAKING OF BUILD-OUTS, IN THE BOARD PACKET, THERE WAS A BLUEPRINT FOR THE PROPOSED BUILDING. AND THERE WAS AN AREA DESIGNATED AS THE NINJA GYM. AND SO THERE'S BEEN SOME EYEBROWS RAISED IN THE COMMUNITY THAT THAT MIGHT BE RELATED TO SUPERVISOR CRYE'S BUSINESS. AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT IT IS, BUT IT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR THE COMMUNITY TO SUPPORT THIS PROJECT IF SUPERVISOR CRYE WERE TO GO ON THE RECORD AND JUST SAY THAT HIS COMPANIES WOULD NOT RECEIVE ANY FUNDING OR PASS THROUGH. FROM THIS PROJECT. AND IF HE CAN'T SAY THAT, THEN MAYBE RECUSE FROM THE PROJECT. I WANT TO STRESS, TOO, THAT I'M NOT AGAINST THE PROJECT. THANK YOU. I'LL BRIEFLY ADDRESS THAT. ACTUALLY, UNTIL THE BOARD AGENDA CAME OUT, I ACTUALLY LOOKED AT THE SCHEMATIC AND SAW THAT. SO I CONTACTED THE PEOPLE THAT ARE PART OF THAT PROJECT AND SAID, HEY, I SEE THERE'S A NINJA GYM ON THERE. I SAID, SO IF THERE'S ANY CONSULTING SERVICES THAT I CAN DONATE OR HELP OR POINT YOU GUYS TO IF YOU'RE GOING TO GET TRUSTS OR NINJA OBSTACLES, I SAID I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO DONATE MY TIME. I ABSOLUTELY DON'T, I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THAT WAS A THING WITH THE PROPOSAL UNTIL THE AGENDA PACKET CAME OUT. GOOD MORNING, BOARD. THANK YOU FOR THAT PRESENTATION. I DO HAVE A QUESTION REGARDING IT, THOUGH, AND MAYBE I MISSED IT. IS THIS A LOCKED FACILITY OR PARTIALLY LOCKED? I'M FOR IT. I JUST, I AM CONCERNED ABOUT ANDERSON AND, YOU KNOW, THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF ADOLESCENTS THAT ARE GOING DOWN THERE. AND ARE THEY GOING TO BE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW. GO TO THE GROCERY STORES, CONVENIENCE STORES, INTERACT WITH OTHER KIDS DOWN THE BLOCK, ETC. SO I HOPE SHE CAN ADDRESS THAT IF SHE HASN'T ALREADY DONE THAT. BOARD, I'D LIKE TO SEE SOME MORE OPIOID MONIES GO TO AND FOR NOW URGENT NEEDS IN OUR COMMUNITY. I KNOW THIS BOARD IS PROBABLY SAVING MONIES BACK IN THE BANK TO BE USED FOR ALTERNATIVE CUSTODY PROGRAM. WHAT WE'VE SPENT MONEY ON FOR THE GOOD NEWS RESCUE MISSION. SO THAT THEY COULD MOVE FORWARD WITH THE 18 MILLION DOLLARS, THAT WAS THE RIGHT MOVE. SPENDING MONEY HERE COULD BE VERY MUCH THE RIGHT MOVE. BUT SO MUCH OF OUR MONEY GOES ALLOCATED FOR THE FUTURE, AND THIS CERTAINLY IS A FUTURE OPERATION HERE. WHILE YOUTH EDUCATION AND LONG-TERM PREVENTION ARE FOUNDATIONAL IN STOPPING FUTURE ADDICTION CYCLES, MOST MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS AGREE THAT THE MAJORITY OF MONEY SHOULD BE SPENT YOU ON OPIOID REMEDIATION. THIS INCLUDES IMMEDIATE, AND I SAY IMMEDIATE, HIGH-IMPACT STRATEGIES LIKE OVERDOSE REVERSAL, EXPANDING TREATMENT ACCESS, AND SUPPORTING THE IN-HOUSE POPULATION CURRENTLY STRUGGLING WITH ADDICTION. WHY IMMEDIATE SPENDING? WHY DO WE NEED IT NOW ON TREATMENT? HOMELESSNESS IS CRITICAL. INVESTING IN THE CURRENT CRISIS IS SEEN AS ESSENTIAL FOR SEVERAL REASONS. AGAIN, SAVING LIVES NOW. WE'VE ALLOCATED MONIES, BUT WE'RE NOT WORKING ON THE PROBLEM. WE'VE GOT PEOPLE DYING HERE EVERY MONTH. PREVENTING SYSTEM FAILURES. EXPERTS ARGUE THAT RATHER THAN JUST FUNDING BROKEN EXISTING [00:50:01] SYSTEMS, THESE FUNDS SHOULD BE USED TO INTEGRATE ADDICTION CARE INTO MAINSTREAM HEALTH CARE, INCREASE TREATMENT FACILITIES AND CAPACITIES, AND PROVIDE MEDICATION-ASSISTED TREATMENT, MAT. I AM FOR THIS PROGRAM. I HOPE TO HEAR SOME OTHER ANSWERS TODAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT UP, MARGARET HANSEN, FOLLOWED BY CHRISTIAN, THEN STEVE KAHN. IF I CALLED YOUR NAME, PLEASE GET IN QUEUE. YEAH, I HAD JUST HEARD ABOUT THIS, AND I'M ALL FOR IT. OUR YOUTH ARE FAILING FAST. THERE'S SO MUCH GOING ON. BUT I LIKE WHAT I'M HEARING WITH THIS. AND I THINK THAT IT WOULD BE A GOOD MOVE ON YOUR PART TO SUPPORT IT. THANK YOU. CHRISTIAN, COME ON UP, FOLLOWED BY STEVE KAHN, DOLORES LUCERO, THEN JENNY. IF I CALLED YOUR NAME, PLEASE GET IN QUEUE. AS A LICENSED CLINICIAN, I'VE WORKED IN FACILITIES SIMILAR TO THIS. MY QUESTION WOULD BE, AND I THINK IT'S A GOOD PROPOSAL, BUT IT'S A LITTLE UNCLEAR. ARE THESE KIDS THAT ARE ALREADY IN THE JUVENILE JUSTICE SYSTEM, ARE THESE KIDS? FROM LEVEL 12, 13 GROUP HOMES? ARE THESE KIDS, IS THIS A LOCKED FACILITY? YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS FACILITY THAT I LOOK FORWARD TO UNDERSTANDING. THE CONCEPT IS GREAT. WHO CAN DENY THAT KIDS DESERVE? ALL THE TREATMENT AND FUNDING THAT THEY CAN GET TO DEAL WITH MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES, AND SUBSTANCE ABUSE IS A MENTAL HEALTH ISSUE, ACCORDING TO THE MENTAL HEALTH ASSOCIATIONS, AND DSM-IV, BY THE WAY, V, I'M SORRY. SO MY QUESTION TO THIS BOARD CONCERNING OPIATE FUNDS IS, YOU KNOW, IT LOOKS TO ME LIKE THE OPIATE FUND SETTLEMENT MONEY STARTED FLOWING AROUND 2022. LOOKS LIKE WE'RE SLATED FOR ROUGHLY 38 TO MAYBE 39 MILLION IN OPIATE SETTLEMENT FUNDS. THIS IS A CPRA. I'M REQUESTING THAT ALL FUNDING PROPOSALS BE TRANSPARENT AND AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC. PREFERABLY ON A COUNTYWIDE WEBSITE. WE NEED TO KNOW WHEN THE FUNDS CAME, WHO IS GETTING THE FUNDS, AND WHAT IS THE EXPLICIT PURPOSE OF THE FUNDS. WE NEED, I WOULD SUGGEST, A SPREADSHEET AVAILABLE SO WE CAN SEE. WE CAN SEE WHERE THE MONEY COMES IN, WHERE THE DECISIONS HAVE BEEN MADE TO ALLOCATE, AND TO WHO. THOSE DECISIONS HAVE BEEN MADE. THIS IS A LOT OF, WELL, ANY MORE, A MILLION HERE AND A MILLION HERE, IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE A LOT OF MONEY, BUT IT ADDS UP. AND THIS IS MONEY THAT BELONGS TO THE TAXPAYERS OF SHASTA COUNTY. THAT'S WHY IT NEEDS TO BE TRANSPARENT. THAT'S WHY WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE. SO I'M ASKING FOR EITHER A SPREADSHEET OR A WRITTEN DOCUMENT THAT IDENTIFIES ALL OF THE ISSUES THAT I'VE LISTED HERE. THE PROJECT SOUNDS INTERESTING. ARE KIDS COMING FROM OUT OF COUNTY? WHERE ARE THEY COMING FROM? AND WHAT LEVEL ARE THEY CURRENT IN THE JUVENILE JUSTICE SYSTEM, IF ANY? THANK YOU. NEXT UP, STEVE KAHN, FOLLOWED BY DOLORES LUCERO. THEN JENNY, THEN NICK GARDNER. MORNING, BOARD, STAFF, ALL THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS. I'M IN SUPPORT OF THIS PROJECT. I THINK WE'RE GETTING A LOT OF BANG FOR THE BUCK, BUT I DO ALSO HAVE SOME OF THE SIMILAR CONCERNS THAT WE DON'T WANT TO BRING A LOT OF INDIVIDUALS FROM OUTSIDE THE AREA HERE AND HAVE THEM ROAMING THE STREETS. SO I ASSUME THAT THAT THEIR PROJECT WILL NOT ALLOW THAT TO OCCUR, I'M HOPING AT LEAST. AND I DO KNOW, AS IT ENDS UP, A COUPLE OF PEOPLE INVOLVED WITH THIS ENTITY, AND I BELIEVE THEY'RE BEYOND REPROACH, SO I HAVE FAITH THAT THIS WILL HAPPEN. WITH REGARDS TO THE NINJA SITUATION AND CRYE WILLING TO VOLUNTEER HIS SERVICES, I WOULD SUGGEST NO RELATIONSHIP WHATSOEVER, BECAUSE AT THAT POINT IT SEEMS TO BE SOME KIND OF QUID QUO PRO SITUATION. YOU KNOW, SAYING HE WOULD DO IT FOR NOTHING WAS THE SAME THING HE WAS DOING WHEN HE WAS TWISTING [00:55:01] THE ARMS OF THE SHASTA COUNTY BOARD OF EDUCATION. BUT HE GETS HIS FOOT IN THE DOOR, AND I REALLY THINK THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME DISTANCE THERE. AND I DON'T KNOW WHY THAT WOULD BE A PROBLEM WITH YOU, CRYE. YOU KNOW, IF YOU WANT THIS ENTITY TO GO, JUST KEEP THE SEPARATION BECAUSE YOU KNOW THERE WILL BE QUESTION THERE. YOU HAVE TO. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. DOLORES? FOLLOWED BY JENNY, THEN NICK GARNER. THIS ITEM, I'M SO GLAD KEVIN CRYE'S NAME IS ON THERE. I'M SO HAPPY TO KNOW THAT. BECAUSE THIS ITEM, I DO A RESEARCH FOR EVERY ITEM THAT YOU PUT ON THE AGENDA. I BELIEVE THAT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WHO WE'RE GIVING THE OPIOID MONEY. AND IF YOU DON'T, AS A BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, DON'T DO YOUR HOMEWORK, IF YOU VOTE ON THIS, THIS IS GOING TO GO ON YOUR RECORD. AND I HOPE YOU'LL BE HAPPY TO KNOW THAT KEVIN CRYE BROUGHT THIS ITEM. AND IT'S NOT SURPRISING THAT HE ACTUALLY BRINGS ITEMS THAT HE DOES NO KNOWLEDGE OF. AND IT TELLS YOU HOW STUPID HE IS. AND I'LL SAY IT AGAIN, HE'S STUPID. BUT AS A REPUBLICAN YOU CLAIM TO BE, I HOPE YOU DID YOUR HOMEWORK, MR. REPUBLICAN. BECAUSE I'M NOT SURE IF YOU'RE AWARE THAT THIS AGENCY, THE PATHWAY, PATHWAYS TO LEADERSHIP. I'M NOT SURE IF YOU DID YOUR HOMEWORK TO LOOK ON THE WEBSITE AND DID A DEEP ANALYZE OF THIS ORGANIZATION. DID YOU KNOW THAT THIS ORGANIZATION, NOT THAT I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH YOU GUYS OR ANYTHING, WHAT YOU SUPPORT, DID YOU KNOW THAT THEY SUPPORT LGBTQ? DID YOU KNOW THAT? ARE YOU READY TO VOTE, MR. BOARD OF SUPERVISORS? LET'S SEE HOW YOU VOTE SINCE YOU'RE SO AGAINST THIS. COME ON, KEVIN CRAIG, GIVE YOURSELF A PAT IN THE BACK. YOU, MR. KNOW-IT-ALL, LET'S SHOW THE PEOPLE, THE REPUBLICANS, WHERE HE STANDS WHEN HE TALKS ABOUT HE'S AGAINST THIS, LGBTQT. COME ON. DID YOU DO YOUR HOMEWORK? I DID. I DO IT FOR YOU SO I CAN SHOW YOU HOW STUPID YOU ARE. LOOK AT THIS. LOOK, I DID MY HOMEWORK. MAYBE YOU OUGHT TO GET SOME EDUCATION FROM ME, BUT YOU'RE TOO STUPID TO TAKE THE TIME. SO IF YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO VOTE, CHRIS, YOU WANT TO VOTE ON THIS ITEM? THAT THEY SUPPORT THIS? THEY'RE ENCOURAGED? IS THIS WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO STAND FOR? SO YOU WANT TO USE THAT WHILE YOU'RE RUNNING AND CAMPAIGNING? OH, BOY, THAT'S GOING TO LOOK GREAT ON YOUR CAMPAIGN WHEN PEOPLE SAY, HEY, YOU VOTED ON THIS ITEM. MAKE SURE YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE VOTING FOR. AND YOU KNOW I DO MY HOMEWORK, AND I DON'T COME UP HERE AND JUST SAY ANYTHING WITHOUT DOING MY HOMEWORK. AND I'M 100% CORRECT. SO GO AHEAD, KEVIN CRYE, AND MR. KNOW IT ALL, GO AHEAD AND ASK YOUR LITTLE COLLEAGUES TO VOTE ON THIS ITEM SINCE YOU DID YOUR HOMEWORK. LIAR. JENNY, COME ON UP, FOLLOWED BY NICK GARDNER. HI EVERYBODY. GOOD MORNING AGAIN. 45 DAYS GOES FAST. I KNOW VERY LITTLE ABOUT ANY OF THESE AGENCIES. SORRY ABOUT THAT. I LIKE TO DO MY HOMEWORK, BUT I DIDN'T TODAY. I ONLY KNOW WHAT I SAW ON THE PRESENTATION. ONE OF THE QUESTIONS HAS ALREADY BEEN ANSWERED, THAT THE NINJA GYM IS NOT RELATED TO OUR SUPERVISOR. AND I'M SURE I WAS NOT THE ONLY ONE CONFUSED BY THAT, BECAUSE USUALLY IF I THINK OF NINJAS, THAT'S WHO I THINK OF. BUT I DO HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION. MY QUESTION IS, WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN TRUE NORTH AND THE FAMILY DYNAMICS PROGRAM, WHICH BOTH ASKED FOR THE SAME GRANT FROM THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA? WHY DO YOU SUPPORT ONE AND KILL THE OTHER? IT APPEARS TO DO THE SAME THING. THEY USED THE SAME ARGUMENTS FOR WHY IT SHOULD BE HERE, THAT IT'S ONE OF THE ONLY PLACES THAT WILL HOLD YOUTH AND TREAT YOUTH. WHY IS THIS PLACE BETTER? I'M GUESSING THAT YOU'VE ALREADY GOT THE NUMBERS AND HAVE DONE THE RESEARCH BECAUSE USUALLY YOU'RE VERY, YOU HAVE A LOT OF SCRUTINY FOR THESE PLACES. SO I'M JUST CURIOUS WHAT IT IS AND I HOPE THAT YOU CLARIFY. AND SINCE THE NINJA GYM IS NOT YOURS, THEN I GUESS YOU DON'T HAVE TO RECUSE YOURSELF BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT IN ANY WAY RELATED. I'M SURE THAT PEOPLE WILL BE VERY INTERESTED AND WILL CONTINUOUSLY LOOK AT THAT. SO I HOPE THAT YOU ARE VERY HONEST ABOUT THAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT UP, NICK GARDNER. WELL, JUST TO ANSWER JENNY'S QUESTION, TRUE NORTH WANTED $150 MILLION. THIS OUTFIT ONLY WANTED $24 [01:00:01] MILLION. IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE PALATABLE TO THE PEOPLE GIVING OUT THE GRANTS, IN MY OPINION. LISTEN, I'M DISSATISFIED WITH THE WAY THE OPIATE MONEY IS BEING SPENT. I THINK IT SHOULD BE SPENT FOR RESTITUTION TO THE VICTIMS FOR THEIR LOSSES. YOU KNOW, A LOT OF PEOPLE, THEY HAVE INSURANCE, THEY HAVE DEDUCTIBLES UP TO $500. AND WHEN SOME DRUGGIE GOES AND THROWS A ROCK THROUGH THEIR WINDOW OR VANDALIZES THEIR CAR, THEY HAVE TO COVER THAT. AND THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY TO A LOT OF PEOPLE. YOU KNOW, IT SHOULD PAY BUSINESSES FOR THEIR LOSSES THAT THEIR INSURANCE DOESN'T COVER. I'VE SEEN TWO BUSINESSES JUST IN THE LAST WEEK THAT HAD A ROCK THROWN THROUGH THEIR WINDOW. AND THAT'S $700 TO $800 TO THEM. AND THEY'VE GOT TO PAY IT OUT OF THEIR POCKET. AND IT'S OBVIOUS TO ME THAT IT'S DRUGGIES THAT ARE DOING ALL OF THESE. YOU'VE GOT FIRES THAT ARE CAUSED BECAUSE OF THE HOMELESS. MAYBE SOME OF THE PEOPLE AREN'T INSURED. MAYBE THAT SHOULD COVER SOME OF THEIR LOSSES. SO I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT TO YOUR ATTENTION. THANK YOU. HAVE A GREAT DAY. CHAIR, THAT WAS OUR LAST SPEAKER. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MS. BLANKENSHIP. ALL RIGHT, WE'LL BRING IT BACK TO A BOARD DISCUSSION. SUPERVISOR LONG. THANK YOU, CHAIR. SANDRA, WHERE DID SANDRA GO? COULD I ASK YOU A FEW QUESTIONS? SO THIS IS A 60 BED FACILITY THAT YOU'RE PROPOSING, CORRECT? YES. AND WHAT PORTION OF THAT WOULD BE MET THROUGH LOCAL COUNTY NEEDS VERSUS OUTSIDE COMMITS? THE PORTION OF CONTROL? SO WE'D HAVE A CERTAIN COMPONENT. MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH KIDS THAT MEET THE CRITERIA FOR THIS FACILITY TO FILL 60 BEDS IN THIS COUNTY. IS THAT YOUR? UNDERSTANDING AS WELL AND WHERE WOULD THE REMAINDER COME FROM? YES. THERE MAY BE YOUTH THAT COME FROM OTHER AREAS. THAT SAID, WE HAVE A PARENTING PROGRAM THAT WE WOULD MANDATE AND EACH PARENT IS TRAINED IN THE CARE OF THEIR OWN CHILD AND SO THEN THEY'RE RELEASED BACK TO THEIR COUNTY. OKAY. AND DO YOU HAVE ANY ESTIMATE OF YOU WHAT THE PERCENTAGES WOULD BE, LOCAL COMMITS TO THIS PROGRAM VERSUS OUTSIDE? WE HAVE HAD BRIEF CONVERSATIONS WITH SHASTA COUNTY ABOUT A COMMITMENT TO THE NUMBER OF BEDS FOR SHASTA COUNTY, AND I WOULD SAY THAT THE GREAT NUMBER OF BEDS WOULD BE ASSIGNED TO SHASTA COUNTY. AT THIS POINT, WE DON'T HAVE EXACT NUMBERS. OKAY, AND WHAT ARE THE CRITERIA FOR A YOUTH TO BE ADMITTED TO THIS PROGRAM? WHAT DO THEY ARE THEY IN THE JUVENILE JUSTICE SYSTEM? ARE THEY RUNAWAYS? WHAT IS THE CRITERIA? OUR FACILITY WOULD BE OPEN TO ALL YOUTH WHO ARE IN NEED. THAT MEANS THAT IF THEY'RE IN AN EMOTIONAL MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS, OUR OPERATION WOULD RECEIVE THEM. WE WOULD ASSESS THEM, AND IF THEY HAVE A SUBSTANCE USE ISSUE OR AN OPIATE ISSUE, THEY WOULD BE LEVELED UP OR LEVELED DOWN DEPENDING ON THEIR EMOTIONAL NEEDS. AND THEIR SUBSTANCE USE TREATMENT. AND DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA OF THE BACKGROUND FOR MOST OF THE KIDS THAT WOULD BE COMING INTO THE PROGRAM? MOST OF THE CHILDREN THAT ARE COMING INTO THE PROGRAM ARE YOUTH THAT MIGHT BE LIVING ON THE STREETS. THEY MIGHT BE YOUTH WHO HAVE BEEN EXPLOITED ON THE STREETS. THEY MIGHT BE IN THE JUVENILE JUSTICE SYSTEM. OUR PROGRAMS ARE OPEN TO ALL PEOPLE. OKAY. AND. THE FACILITY, I DIDN'T HEAR ANYTHING MENTIONED ABOUT IT, BUT THE QUESTION I HAVE IS, IS THIS A LOCKED, A LOCKDOWN FACILITY, OR IS THIS WHERE THEY'RE NOT LOCKED DOWN? THIS IS A NON-LOCKDOWN FACILITY, BUT I WOULD SAY IT IS A SECURE FACILITY FOR THE BENEFIT OF SAFETY OF THE YOUTH. OKAY, AND FOR YOUR GROUP, AND THANK YOU FOR PRESENTING THIS TO US, BUT FOR YOUR GROUP, WHAT EXPERIENCE DO YOU HAVE RUNNING A FACILITY OF THIS NATURE, AND WHAT IS YOUR CURRENT BUSINESS MODEL, AND WOULD THIS BE AN EXPANSION INTO AN AREA THAT YOU HAVEN'T PREVIOUSLY BEEN INVOLVED WITH? YEAH, FAMILY DYNAMICS HAS BEEN IN BUSINESS SINCE 2010. WE STARTED OUT WITH ONE FACILITY CALLED THE ATTACHMENT AND BONDING CENTER. WE EXPANDED TO A HEALTH AND WELLNESS CENTER. THAT'S OUR SECOND FACILITY. OUR THIRD FACILITY IS A YOUTH AND TEEN CENTER. OUR FOURTH FACILITY WE OPENED IN SISKIYOU COUNTY AS THE YOUTH AND FAMILY CENTER. AND THEN WE JUST RECENTLY INITIATED A MOBILE UNIT. MOST OF THOSE PROGRAMS WERE RUN [01:05:01] STRICTLY FROM FAMILY DYNAMICS FUNDS AND VERY FEW FUNDS AT ALL WERE EVER SOLICITED FROM ANY OTHER RESOURCE OTHER THAN OUR VOLUNTEERS. OUR EXPERIENCE WITH INPATIENT, WE HAVE PUT TOGETHER THE HOPE COLLABORATIVE, WHICH ALLOWS US TO PUT TOGETHER RESOURCES FROM OUR COMMUNITY, INCLUDING FOSTER CARE AND LICENSING COMMITTEE. WE WOULD HAVE SUBSTANCE USE TREATMENT PROFESSIONALS COME IN AND WORK WITH OUR YOUTH IN SUBSTANCE USE. OUR RESIDENTIAL CARE AND THE WHOLE FACILITY IS I'M GOING TO SAY FACILITATED BY OVER 300 MENTORS WHO ARE TRAINED AND COME IN AND WORK WITH OUR YOUTH. AND THEN AS FAR AS EXPERIENCE WITH THE BED FACILITIES, FAMILY DYNAMICS HAS MINIMAL EXPERIENCE WITH THAT. MINIMAL EXPERIENCE WITH A FACILITY OF THIS TYPE? YES. THAT'S KIND OF WHAT COLLABORATIVELY, WE HAVE A LOT OF EXPERIENCE. OKAY, OKAY. AND WHAT WILL YOU, HOW WILL YOU KEEP THE COMMITS TO THE FACILITY FROM WALKING AWAY. THERE'S NO LOCKDOWN TO IT. AND I'M JUST CURIOUS ABOUT THAT AND HOW WOULD THAT WORK? AND ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH LIKE VICTOR YOUTH SERVICES AND REMY VISTA AND SOME OF THE DIFFERENT FACILITIES THAT WE'VE HAD IN THIS? AND EVEN ARCH COLLABORATIVE STARTED TO DO A SIMILAR PROGRAM AND THAT DIDN'T WORK OUT FOR THEM. AND WHY WOULD THIS BE SUCCESSFUL WHEN THOSE AREN'T? YES, OUR PROGRAMS ARE DESIGNED TO MEETS AT THE EMERGENCY ARE THE MENTAL HEALTH NEEDS SECONDLY WHAT WE DO IS WE SO WE HAVE STRONG SUPPORT WHICH MEANS THAT THREE HUNDRED MENTOR TEAM CAN COME IN AT ANY GIVEN HOUR AND HELP USE WITH REGULATION OUR PROGRAMS INCLUDE EVIDENCE-BASED MODEL THAT AS INCLUDING THEIR BIOLOGY THE INTERPERSONAL NEUROBIOLOGY HOPE THEORY WHICH IS GIVING HOPE FOR THE FUTURE AND THEN WE ALSO USE A PROCESS THAT IS TAKEN FROM THE CONCEPT OF BRAIN MAPPING. SO WE ARE GOING TO TAKE THEM IN, ASSESS, AND ANALYZE THE NEEDS OF EACH CHILD. AND THEN WE WILL ASSIGN SUPPORT SPECIFICALLY FOR THOSE CHILDREN. AS FAR AS THE LOCKDOWN FACILITY, WE ARE NOT A FACILITY THAT WOULD, WHEN I SAY SECURE, IT MEANS THAT YOUTH ARE COMMITTED TO BEING THERE. AND WE WILL SUPPORT THAT. THEY ARE NOT GOING TO BE RELEASED OUT ON THE STREET. IF THEY ARE LEAVING OUR FACILITY, YOU KNOW, BY CHOICE, BECAUSE WE'RE A BY CHOICE FACILITY, IF THEY'RE LEAVING OUR FACILITY, THEN IF THEY COME FROM A DIFFERENT COUNTY, THEY WILL BE RETURNED BACK TO THAT COUNTY. AND HERE, WHAT WE DO AND WHAT WE ARE CURRENTLY DOING IS WE HAVE A PHENOMENAL PARENTING PROGRAM CALLED PARENT UNIVERSITY. SO WE'RE WELL TRAINED WITH WORKING WITH PARENTS, AND PARENTS ARE THE KEY TO KEEPING CHILDREN WELL. AND WITHOUT THAT COMPONENT, WE WOULD HAVE SOME RISK WHEN WE RELEASE. AND THAT IS A SIGNIFICANT PROBLEM BECAUSE RETURN TO USE, ESPECIALLY WITH OPIATES, IS A COMMON FACTOR IN A PERSON'S WELLNESS. AND SO WE ARE ADDRESSING THAT RETURN TO USE BY GIVING CHILDREN OR YOUTH AN OPPORTUNITY FOR A DIFFERENT TYPE OF FUTURE. WHAT THIS MEANS IS THAT YOUTH COME IN AND THEY ARE USUALLY COMING FROM A TRAUMA LADEN ENVIRONMENT. THEIR BRAINS CAN ONLY SCAN FOR SAFETY AND SECURITY, WHICH IS THE COMMON CAUSE FOR BEHAVIOR DISRUPTION. NOW MY EXPERIENCE, PROBABLY MY FIRST FIVE YEARS OF WORKING IN MENTAL HEALTH WAS IN FORENSIC, WORKING WITH CYA YOUTH. SO I HAVE QUITE A LOT OF EXPERIENCE IN WORKING WITH CHILDREN WHO HAVE SEVERE EMOTIONAL AND BEHAVIOR PROBLEMS. FAMILY DYNAMICS OVER THE YEARS HAVE HANDLED MANY OF THOSE TYPES OF USE AND OUR PROGRAMS WORK. YOU KNOW, YOU'RE NOT HEARING ABOUT OUR KIDS ON THE STREET, YOU KNOW, OR REUSE PROBLEMS. YOU'RE SEEING SUCCESS. AND THEN ALSO THAT PARENT SUPPORT IS SO IMPORTANT. WHEN WE BRING THE PARENTS IN, WE'RE TEACHING THEM ABOUT HOW THEIR CHILDREN ARE RESPONDING TO THEIR ENVIRONMENT. THAT IS DONE THROUGH A PROCESS CALLED PARENTING THROUGH A TRAUMA INFORMED LENS. THAT WHOLE COURSEWORK TEACHES PARENTS ON HOW TO UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING FROM NEUROSCIENCE TO SELF-REGULATION, PARENTS ATTENDING, LIKE MEANING BEING A PART OF YOUR CHILD'S LIFE, PARENTS BEING PRESENT IN THEIR CHILD'S LIFE. [01:10:01] SO WE'RE COVERING ALL THE ASPECTS AND PROBLEMS THAT WE MIGHT SEE WITH YOUTH RETURNING TO YOUTH. OKAY. AND YOUR PARENT MODEL FOR KIDS THAT MIGHT BE COMING FROM THE BAY AREA OR SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA OR THOSE KINDS OF COMMITS AND I'M I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE NUMBERS WHAT THAT SPLIT WOULD BE THEY WON'T HAVE A PARENT MODEL SO HOW HOW DOES THAT WORK WELL WE WOULD WE REQUIRE THIS AS PART OF OUR PROGRAM BECAUSE WE'RE NOT INTERESTED IN JUST TREATING YOUTH AND RETURNING THEM BACK TO AN ENVIRONMENT THAT WOULD JUST LEAD THEM BACK TO USE. AND WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OPIATES, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LIFE AND DEATH, AND SO IT IS MANDATORY. BUT WITH THE USE OF TECHNOLOGY, WE ARE ABLE TO BRING THAT PROGRAM ANYWHERE IN THE UNITED STATES, FOR THAT MATTER. BUT ANY COUNTY IN CALIFORNIA, A PARENT CAN RECEIVE THESE RESOURCES. OKAY, AND THE LAST QUESTION I'M GOING TO ASK YOU IS, WHAT WHAT ARE THE, SO YOU'RE GOING TO ADMIT YOUTH THAT HAVE SUBSTANCE ABUSE PROBLEMS? I THINK YOU SAID SEVERE EMOTIONAL AND MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES? WELL, WHEN CHILDREN ARE IN CRISIS, THE BEAUTIFUL THING ABOUT CHILDREN IS THEY ENTER INTO CRISIS AND THEY GET WELL QUICKLY WHEN THEY HAVE THE RIGHT SUPPORTS. SO WE CAN PREVENT WORSENING MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES BY TREATING THEM EARLY. AND SO OUR FACILITY WOULD BE SET UP TO ADDRESS THAT ISSUE AND GET CHILDREN. THAT LEVEL UP, LEVEL DOWN SYSTEM IS JUST QUITE AMAZING BECAUSE WHAT WE CAN DO IS WE CAN ASSESS CHRONIC, SERIOUS MENTAL ILLNESS. WE CAN DOWN LEVEL THAT QUITE QUICKLY IN A MATTER OF DAYS. SO WE'RE NOT TALKING MONTHS, YEARS. WE'RE TALKING DAYS. SO A YOUTH'S BRAIN, WHEN WE LOOK AT NEUROPLASTICITY, A YOUTH'S BRAIN IS VERY MOLDABLE, VERY PLIABLE. THE OTHER PIECE IS THESE YOUTH DON'T HAVE SOLUTIONS FOR THEIR MENTAL HEALTH. WE HAVE SOLUTIONS FOR THEIR MENTAL HEALTH. SO WHAT WE CAN DO IS WE CAN TAKE JUST THAT ONE ON ONE INTENSE. ATTENTION TO THAT YOUTH'S NEEDS IN THAT MOMENT, WE CAN DOWN REGULATE THEM, HELP THEM MAKE BETTER DECISIONS, AND THEN SHOW THEM HOW TO PREVENT THAT ESCALATION IN THE FUTURE. SO ACTUALLY, I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO A NEUROSCIENCE CLASS HERE, BUT THAT PREFRONTAL CORTEX, IT ONLY KNOWS TO SEARCH FOR AND TRY TO ACHIEVE SAFETY. THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS WITH A TRAUMATIZED CHILD. SO THEY ARE ACTING REACTIVE. AND SO THEY'RE WORKING IN DEFENSE. SO WHAT WE TEACH THEM IS HOW THEIR BRAIN IS FUNCTIONING, WHAT THEY CAN DO TO STOP IT. BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, WE TEACH THEM HOW TO PREDICT WHEN THEY'RE GOING TO BECOME DYSREGULATED AND GIVE THEM TOOLS SO THAT THEY WON'T BECOME DYSREGULATED IN THE FUTURE. AND THEY WILL BE LEFT WITH TOOLS THAT THEY CAN RESOURCE, NOT JUST IN TREATMENT, BUT FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIVES. SO PATHWAYS TO LEADERSHIP TAKES THEM FROM THIS CRISIS. GIVES THEM EMOTIONAL SUPPORT, EXPOSES THEM TO A FUTURE THAT THEY DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THEY HAD. AN EXAMPLE WOULD BE ONE YOUTH THAT I WORKED WITH HAD A PROBLEM WITH BELIEVING AND TRUSTING PEOPLE. SO IN MY THERAPY SESSION, HE WOULD OFTEN SCREAM, YOU'RE A LIAR, YOU'RE A LIAR, BECAUSE NOBODY HAS EXPERIENCED SWIMMING IN THE BAHAMAS. NOBODY HAS CLIMBED TO THE TOP OF A MOUNTAIN. SHASTA OR MOUNT LASSEN AND WE SHOWED THEM THAT HE COULD CLIMB TO THE TOP OF MOUNT LASSEN. HE CLIMBED TO THE TOP OF MOUNT LASSEN. NOW HE BELIEVES IN HIMSELF. OKAY, THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THE INFORMATION. YOU CAN SIT DOWN IF YOU WOULD LIKE. I THINK SOME OTHER SUPERVISORS MIGHT HAVE SOME QUESTIONS. ARE YOU DONE, SUPERVISOR LONG? WELL, I JUST WANTED TO ASK CHRISTY ONE QUESTION. GOTCHA. SO, CHRISTY? THANK YOU. CAN YOU HELP WITH THE DISCUSSION ABOUT 60 BEDS AND THE IDEA OF INSIDE COUNTY COMMITS AND OUTSIDE OF COUNTY COMMITS? CAN YOU HELP WITH THAT NUMBER? AND I KNOW I'VE TALKED WITH YOU ABOUT THIS YESTERDAY, BUT CAN YOU HELP WITH THAT DISCUSSION? YEAH. SO SORRY FOR MY VOICE. I HAVE A COLD. RIGHT NOW WE DON'T HAVE A FACILITY TO ACTUALLY HAVE DATA TO KNOW HOW MANY BEDS WE WOULD ACTUALLY NEED FOR A FACILITY LIKE THIS. AND SO THE DATA RIGHT NOW, WE DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE IT, BUT WE DO KNOW THAT THERE IS A NEED. WE KNOW THAT THIS IS A GAP IN SERVICES IN OUR COMMUNITY, [01:15:02] AND SO WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE A NEED FOR IT. WE JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT NEED IS RIGHT NOW. AND IS IT SAFE TO SAY THAT, BASED ON OUR DISCUSSION YESTERDAY, THAT WE COULD NOT FILL 60 BEDS BASED ON THE SHASTA COUNTY NEEDS ALONE, AND IT WOULD BE A SUBSTANTIAL PORTION FROM OUTSIDE THE COUNTY THAT'S CORRECT THAT'S CORRECT OKAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH THANK YOU SUPERVISOR LONG SUPERVISOR CRYE I JUST WANT TO MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE IT OKAY WE HAVE A MOTION TO HAVE A SECOND ABSOLUTELY WE'LL GET THERE SO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE BY SUPERVISOR CRYE AND A SECOND BY SUPERVISOR HARMAN SUPERVISOR HARMAN I WOULD LIKE DR. WILSON, SORRY, IS IT ON? JUST GOT TO BE NEAR IT. I WOULD JUST LIKE, I HAVE THE PRIVILEGE, AND I HAVEN'T GOT TO TALK TO ANY OF THESE OTHER SUPERVISORS, BUT I HAVE THE PRIVILEGE OF, AND I CAN'T REMEMBER, SANDY, BUT I'M GOING TO SAY I'VE KNOWN HER AND HER HUSBAND JEFF FOR DECADES, AND I HAVE THE PRIVILEGE OF KNOWING WHO THEY ARE PERSONALLY, AND I'M VERY SUPPORTIVE OF WHAT YOU'RE DOING, AND I KNOW THEY'RE GOING TO DO AN AMAZING JOB OF, AND THEY HAVE ALREADY BEEN DOING THAT IN OTHER WAYS, YOU KNOW, IN OTHER FACILITIES. AND THIS IS WHAT WE NEED TO PROMOTE RIGHT HERE. IS PEOPLE THAT ARE DOING WHAT SHE'S DOING. AND THAT WHOLE GROUP, SHE'S NOT DOING IT BY HERSELF, BUT SHE'S THE LEADER IN THIS GROUP. AND I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU JUST SAID. THAT WHOLE RUNDOWN WAS VERY WELL DONE, AND IT WAS VERY INFORMATIVE, AND I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'RE DOING. AND, YES, I'M ALL FOR THIS. SO I'M ENCOURAGING MY FELLOW BOARD MEMBERS. TO VOTE YES ON THIS THANK YOU SUPERVISOR HARMAN SUPERVISOR PLUMBER HI SANDRA I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS FOR YOU AS WELL AND THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS GOING BACK TO SEPTEMBER AND AND UM YEAH WE JUST WANTED TO UNDERSTAND A FEW OF THE PIECES BETTER I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT IT KIND OF AT A HIGH LEVEL IN SEPTEMBER AND YOU KNOW I DID SUBMIT A LETTER SUPPORT PRE APPLICATION AT THAT TIME THE THE 10 STABILIZATION AND TRANSITIONAL CARE BEDS IS THAT WHAT IS THE STRUCTURE OF THAT? I MEAN, IS THAT SOMETHING WHERE THEY CAN STAY UP TO 24 HOURS OR MORE THAN THAT? AND HOW DOES THAT WORK? ARE YOU SPEAKING OF THE PEER RESIDENTIAL PORTION OF OUR PROGRAM? I GUESS THE 10 THAT ARE, YEAH. SO THOSE ARE FIVE SEPARATE UNITS THAT ARE BUILT LIKE APARTMENTS, AND THE YOUTH WILL TRANSITION. SO WE USUALLY RESERVE THAT FOR AN AGING OUT YOUTH WHO IS GOING TO THE LITTLE BIT RELEASED OUT INTO THE PUBLIC AT EIGHTEEN WE KNOW THAT THEY DON'T HAVE THE SUPPORTS THAT THEY NEED TO SUPPORT MOVING INTO ADULTHOOD SO THIS TEN-UNIT PROGRAM ALLOWS YOU TO COME IN AND THEY TO GET PURE MENTORSHIP AND THERE ARE PROGRAMS THROUGH THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA WHERE THEY CAN ACTUALLY HAVE PAID POSITIONS AND SO THESE YOUTHFUL AMEN. LIVE IN THEIR APARTMENTS, LEARN ADULT LIVING SKILLS, BUT ALSO HAVE OCCUPATIONS, IF NOT IN OUR FACILITIES, OTHER LOCATIONS, SO THEY MAY GET A JOB IN OUR COMMUNITY. BUT THESE YOUTH WILL ACTUALLY RETURN BACK INTO THE CENTER AND PLAY THE ROLE OF PEER MENTOR, WHICH IS THROUGH GRANTING, THE STATE WILL ALLOW US TO PAY THEM FOR THEIR WORK SO THEY CAN BECOME FUTURE SUBSTANCE USE COUNSELORS, MENTAL HEALTH WORKERS. SO THEY ARE ACTUALLY COMING BACK AND RETURNING BACK TO THEIR PROGRAMS. SO THAT'S MORE OF A LONG, LIKE A TRANSITIONAL HOUSING TYPE OF SETUP WHERE THEY CAN STAY THERE FOR 12, 24 MONTHS. IS THERE ANY CAP ON THE DURATION THERE? WE HAVE NOT SET ONE AS OF YET. OKAY. AND THEN THE 20 CRISIS RESIDENTIAL, WHAT ARE THE PARAMETERS AROUND THAT IN TERMS OF, AGAIN, LIKE HOW LONG THEY CAN STAY AND WHAT TYPE OF? LICENSING OR FUNDING, WHICH I KNOW IS STILL A LITTLE BIT IN FLUX, BUT THAT YOU'RE PLANNING FOR THOSE, BENZ? FOR THE LICENSING, THIS WOULD BE CONSIDERED SHORT-TERM, POSSIBLY ANYWHERE FROM FIVE DAYS TO 14 DAYS. HOWEVER, YOUTH CAN STAY UP TO A MONTH IN THAT FACILITY. FAMILY DYNAMICS HAS HAD A NO-PAY, NO-WALK-AWAY POLICY AND HAS HELD THAT. FOR MANY YEARS, IN FACT, WE HAVE GIVEN BACK TO THE COUNTY $9 MILLION WORTH OF SERVICES, FREE SERVICES THAT FAMILY DYNAMICS HAS OFFERED BACK TO THE COUNTY. SO THIS IS FOR INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE NO INSURANCE AND NO PAYMENT OR NO ABILITY TO PAY. WE HAVE NEVER REFUSED SERVICES. SO IF A YOUTH HAD NO FUNDING, WE WOULD SUPPORT THEM [01:20:01] UNTIL THEY REACHED WELLNESS. AND THEN THE THE SUBSTANCE USE TREATMENT BEDS, ARE THOSE LIKE 30, 60, 90 DAY PROGRAMS OR HOW DOES THAT? 30, 60, 90 DAYS AND THEN LONGER IF NECESSARY. OKAY. AND SO WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT LEVELING UP AND LEVELING DOWN, WHICH I THINK IS GREAT TO HAVE THAT IN ONE FACILITY BECAUSE THEN, AS YOU SAID, YOU CAN MOVE. SO THEY GO IN THROUGH THE DOOR OF POTENTIALLY OF THE CRISIS RESIDENTIAL. AND THEN IF THEY LEVEL UP INTO MORE INTENSIVE CARE, THEY'RE GOING INTO. THE SUBSTANCE USE TREATMENT BEDS, OR WHERE ARE THEY GOING NEXT? WELL, JUST THE OPPOSITE. THEY WILL COME INTO CRISIS CARE. THAT IS OUR HIGHEST LEVEL OF SERVICE. WE WILL ASSESS FOR SUBSTANCE USE, AND IF THEY HAVE SUBSTANCE USE, WE WILL IMMEDIATELY INITIATE TREATMENT. AND IF SOMEONE IN SUBSTANCE USE TREATMENT HAS AN EMOTIONAL CRISIS, THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO LEVEL BACK UP INTO THE CRISIS UNIT. OKAY. AND THEN I KNOW YOU SAID IN TERMS OF ELIGIBILITY THAT THIS WOULD BE OPEN TO ALL. I KNOW ONE OF THE THINGS, SO THE COUNTY ISSUED, I BELIEVE AT THE TIME IT WAS A REQUEST FOR INFORMATION, BACK IN FALL OF 2024 AROUND PROP 1 FOR A CHILDREN'S RECEIVING HOME OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT CONCEPT BECAUSE OF THE CHALLENGE OF WHEN YOU HAVE YOUTH IN THE CHILD WELFARE SYSTEM, IT'S VERY HARD TO FIND PLACEMENTS FOR THEM WHEN THEY HAVE HIGH-INTENSITY NEEDS OR THEY'RE COMBATIVE OR OTHER THINGS. WILL THIS BE A PLACE THAT WILL TAKE THOSE TYPES OF YOUTH THAT WE HAVE TROUBLE PLACING KIND OF ANYWHERE AROUND THE STATE AND, YOU KNOW, OFTEN END UP HAVING TO COME UP WITH KIND OF, I WOULD SAY, SUBOPTIMAL SOLUTIONS FOR? ABSOLUTELY, AND THAT IS OUR GOAL. AND OUR FACILITY IS ACTUALLY DESIGNED FOR COMFORT STATIONS, SO THROUGHOUT THE BUILDING FLOOR PLAN ARE LITTLE COVES WHERE YOUTH CAN BE ESCORTED OVER FOR A CALM-DOWN SPACE. SO IT'S ACTUALLY DESIGNED FOR THIS. SO WE HAVE, I THINK THAT IS GOING TO BE COVERED VERY WELL, AND WE WOULD REFUSE NO CHILDREN. SO AS LONG AS OUR BEDS ARE OPEN, OUR FACILITY IS OPEN. OKAY. AND THEN IN TERMS OF THE DEVELOPMENT PIECE, BECAUSE I KNOW WITH PROP 1, IT'S A TIGHT TIMELINE, AND THE LAND THAT YOU HAVE IN ANDERSON, DOES THAT REQUIRE A REZONE OR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? OR ARE YOU GOOD TO GO AND YOU CAN JUST START BUILDING? OR WHAT'S THE NEXT STEP ON THAT? IT IS ZONED APPROPRIATE. WE ARE IN DISCUSSION. DO WE WANT TO ADD TO THAT? WITH YOUR PERMISSION, SUPERVISOR. IT'S A PUBLIC USE FACILITY. WE HAVE A CURRENT USE PERMIT AND IT WILL REQUIRE MODIFICATION OF THAT USE PERMIT. WE'VE ALREADY BEEN IN DISCUSSION WITH THE CITY OF ANDERSON. WE WERE BEFORE WE EVEN MADE THE APPLICATION TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE WERE NO CHALLENGES WITH THIS FACILITY IN ANDERSON. AND UNDER THE TERMS OF OUR AGREEMENT WITH THE COUNTY, WE WILL HAVE TO HAVE THE CITY OF ANDERSON'S APPROVAL BEFORE WE CAN MOVE AHEAD OR CONSTRUCT. WE LIVE IN ANDERSON. WE'VE PROMOTED ANDERSON FOR OUR ENTIRE LIVES, AND WE WANT THE BEST FOR OUR COMMUNITY. AND WE BELIEVE THIS WILL ACTUALLY BE AN ASSET RATHER THAN A DETRIMENT BECAUSE IT WILL HELP. SUSIE AND I HAVE 50 FOSTER CARE CHILDREN. EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM CAME FROM DRUG, ALCOHOL, OTHER WORSE ABUSIVE SITUATIONS. WE ARE DESPERATE IN SHASTA COUNTY FOR ASSISTANCE AND HELP, AND THAT'S WHY WE HAVE DONATED THE PROPERTY. FROM ANDERSON COMMUNITY A MINIMUM VALUE OF A HALF A MILLION DOLLARS. DOES THAT ANSWER THEIR I THINK SO MOSTLY. JUST TO CLARIFY THOUGH, THE ANDERSON CITY COUNCIL WILL HAVE TO VOTE ON MODIFYING THE USE PERMIT OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT CAN BE DONE ADMINISTRATIVELY OR NOT ADMINISTRATIVELY BECAUSE IT IS A MAJOR FACILITY THAT HOUSES KIDS AND IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO THE COMMUNITY. IT IS PERMITTED UNDER THE CITY'S CODE. WE DON'T REALLY HAVE A REGULATION THERE. THE EXISTING USE PERMIT ALLOWS THE USE BUT IT'S AN INTENSE USE. WE'RE GOING BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION. IT'S NOT AN ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW. WE'LL GO BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION BECAUSE IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO. THE SEPARATE ACKNOWLEDGEMENT FROM THE CITY COUNCIL IS, DOES THE CITY SUPPORT THIS BEING THERE? WE WANT AND NEED BOTH ELEMENTS. OKAY, THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. AND THEN I THINK TWO MORE QUESTIONS. ONE, I DO WANT TO GO BACK TO THE NINJA GYM PIECE BECAUSE MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THAT IS A, AND FOR ME IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE ARE ABOVE BOARD ON THAT. I MEAN, WITH THE GOOD NEWS RESCUE MISSION, I DIDN'T BRING THAT, EVEN THOUGH I TALKED TO JONATHAN ABOUT THE MATCHING FUNDS THERE, I DIDN'T BRING THAT FORWARD BECAUSE I WAS TWO STEPS REMOVED INVOLVED WITH SOME OF THE PEOPLE DOING THE CONSTRUCTION. WHAT WAS THE VISION HERE? BECAUSE MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT YOU HAVE TO GET LIKE A FRANCHISE AGREEMENT WITH NINJA GYM OR SOMETHING TO DO THAT. [01:25:01] AND I DON'T, ARE THERE OTHER ONES THAT ARE PLANNING TO DO THAT? WELL, YEAH. A FRANCHISE WOULD BE NECESSARY IF WE WERE GOING TO OPEN IT FOR SERVICE AND FOR FEE. THIS IS AN IN HOUSE USE ONLY. AND THEN I MIGHT ADD, I WASN'T AWARE ABOUT THE NINJA GYM THAT MR. CRYE, SUPERVISOR CRYE, HAS BEEN INVOLVED IN. I STILL DON'T HAVE ANY INFORMATION ABOUT THAT EXCEPT FOR WHAT I HEARD TODAY AND A LITTLE BIT FROM A FEW DAYS AGO. SO MY BACKGROUND, I HAD PURCHASED A BUILDING IN WAIRIKA FOR THE PURPOSE OF BUILDING A NINJA GYM. I COULDN'T GET ENOUGH COMMUNITY SUPPORT SO WE SINCE SOLD THE BUILDING AND REFOCUSED A LOT OF OUR EFFORTS HERE IN SHASTA COUNTY. SO THAT ACTUALLY WASN'T ANYTHING THAT HAD TO DO WITH KEVIN CRYE PRIMARILY BECAUSE I WASN'T EVEN AWARE. OKAY, AND THEN YOU MENTIONED A RETURN TO COUNTY. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOUR AGENCY WILL PROVIDE ITSELF, OR HOW ARE YOU THINKING ABOUT THAT HAPPENING? WELL, ESSENTIALLY, IF A CHILD IS BROUGHT TO OUR FACILITY, WE COULD HAVE THE POTENTIAL OF DRIVING THEM BACK. WE HAVE THREE VANS FOR TRANSPORTATION. HOWEVER, IT WOULD BE MOST LIKELY THAT THE PARENT WOULD COME AND RECEIVE THE CHILD AND TAKE THEM BACK HOME. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SUPERVISOR PLUMMER, SUPERVISOR LONG. THANK YOU, CHAIR. AND I HAVE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR YOU, SANDRA. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SUPERVISOR LONG. BUT I DID GET IN TOUCH. I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR HER, BUT I HAVE A BOARD DISCUSSION, SO LET'S LEAVE IT AT THAT. SO AS EVERYONE MAY OR MAY NOT KNOW, I COME FROM A LAW ENFORCEMENT BACKGROUND. I WAS WITH READING POLICE FOR 20 YEARS, A POLICE OFFICER FOR FIVE YEARS DOWN IN THE BAY AREA PRIOR TO THAT. I LIVED THROUGH VICTOR YOUTH SERVICES. I LIVED THROUGH RAMY VISTA. I LIVED THROUGH SOME OF THE GROUP HOME SITUATIONS, ALL THE ABOVE. AND WHILE I WILL NEVER NOT APPLAUD THE EFFORT TO GET A FACILITY THAT TREATS OUR YOUTH FOR OPIOIDS AND FOR SOME OF THESE PROBLEMS, I SAW THAT, AT LEAST MY EXPERIENCE, WAS THAT SOME OF THE FACILITIES WERE CHRONICALLY UNDERSTAFFED. THEY WERE NOT LOCKED DOWN FACILITIES. THEY DIDN'T HAVE PERSONNEL THAT WERE TRAINED IN THIS, AND I KNOW THAT SANDRA HAS ADDRESSED SOME OF THE TRAINING NEEDS. THERE ARE A LOT OF UNANSWERED QUESTIONS FOR THIS PROJECT WITH ME AT THIS POINT. AGAIN, WE JUST GOT LAST-MINUTE NOTICE. I DID TO GET READY FOR THIS. SO IT'S ONE OF THOSE SITUATIONS WHERE THE JUVENILES THAT WERE PART OF THESE FACILITIES, THEY WOULD JUST WALK AWAY. AND WE WOULD GO AND TAKE A RUNAWAY REPORT, A 601 REPORT, AND WE WOULD ENTER THEM INTO THE SYSTEM, AND THEN THEY WERE OUT, AND THEY WERE COMMITTING VIOLENT CRIMES. THEY WERE COMMITTING ALL TYPES OF CRIMES. THEY DIDN'T COME BACK RIGHT AWAY. WE HAD LAW ENFORCEMENT HAD TO KIND OF CHASE THEM AROUND. AND ONCE THEY COMMITTED CRIMES, VIOLENT CRIMES AND OTHERWISE, THEY BECAME A MEMBER OF OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM HERE IN SHASTA COUNTY. AND THEN WE KIND OF, THEY KIND OF NEVER ENDED UP LEAVING OUR COUNTY AGAIN FOR WHAT COULD BE A SHORT-TERM COMMIT UNDER THIS PROGRAM. SO I THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF, I THINK THE IDEA IS NOBLE, AND I APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION BY DR. WILSON. I THINK IT'S A VERY NOBLE ENDEAVOR. HOWEVER, I THINK SHE HAS SAID THAT THIS IS OUTSIDE THEIR AREA OF EXPERTISE, AND THEY HAVE BEEN IN COUNSELING AND ALL THE DIFFERENT FUNCTIONS THEY SAID, BUT OPERATING A FACILITY OF THIS TYPE IS A VERY TECHNICAL ENDEAVOR, AND THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THEY'VE EVER DONE BEFORE. AND YOU COMBINE IT WITH THE LACK OF A LOCKDOWN FACILITY AND THE PROBLEMS WITH KIDS THAT COME TO THE FACILITY. AND WE CAN'T GET AN ESTIMATE OF THE NUMBERS OF THE LOCAL MIX VERSUS THE OUT OF COUNTY MIX, I THINK WE'RE ASKING FOR A LOT OF PROBLEMS HERE. AND I THINK THAT IF WE HAD 100% SHASTA COUNTY COMMITS, THAT'S ONE THING, BUT WE'RE NOT. WE'RE GOING TO GET, AT BEST, A 50-50 MIX, AND IT'S GOING TO BE KIDS THAT ARE GOING TO BE SUFFERING FROM SEVERE EMOTIONAL HEALTH ISSUES AND. SUBSTANCE ABUSE USE ISSUES AND [01:30:01] MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE COMING TO A COMMUNITY THAT DOES NOT HAVE A LOCKED DOWN FACILITY AND WE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO STOP THEM IF THEY JUST DECIDE TO LEAVE AND THAT IS MY EXPERIENCE AS A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER, THAT WE HAD SIGNIFICANT CHALLENGES IN THAT AREA, KEEPING THEM CONTAINED WITHIN THE FACILITIES. AND THEY TENDED TO LEAVE AT WILL, AND STAFF COULDN'T STOP THEM. SO THAT IS MY DISCUSSION, AND THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SUPERVISOR LONG. SUPERVISOR CRAIG. SO IN THAT DISCUSSION, ARE YOU NOT SUPPORTING IT? IS THAT WHAT I'M TO UNDERSTAND, DERIVE? WELL, I JUST DESCRIBED EVERYTHING. SO JUST FOR THE DISCUSSION, BECAUSE IF WE'RE HAVING, I MEAN, YOU SPOKE, SO HAVING A DISCUSSION, I'M CURIOUS, ARE YOU NOT SUPPORTING IT? I'M NOT GOING TO SUPPORT IT. OKAY, YOU'RE NOT SUPPORTING IT. SO I GUESS, MS. WILSON, DR. WILSON, IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME ON UP, WE'RE GOING TO MAKE THIS A POLITICAL ISSUE. SO, OKAY, BECAUSE ALL THE SUPERVISOR LONG, YOU SUPPORTED ANOTHER PROJECT THAT WAS TRIPLE OR QUADRUPLE THE SIZE, WAS GOING TO HAVE AN EXTREME COST. OKAY. IT'S MY TIME. AND SO WHAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND IS IT FEELS LIKE AN IMMENSE AMOUNT OF DOUBLE SPEAK AND POLITICAL MANEUVERING. SO I'M GOING TO HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS DOG AND PONY SHOW. DR. WILSON, IS THERE ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO REFUTE ABOUT YOUR LACK OF ABILITY TO RUN A FACILITY LIKE THIS? I MEAN, YOU WERE HONEST AND SAID, I'VE NEVER RUN A FACILITY LIKE THIS, BUT YOU'VE DONE THAT WORK. SO WOULD YOU LIKE TO EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE CONVERSATIONS YOU HAVE WITH THE CITY OF ANDERSON OR THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT? OR THE CITY OF ANDERSON'S POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THEIR CONCERNS? BECAUSE WHAT'S DIFFERENT ABOUT WHAT I REALLY SEE ABOUT THIS ONE IS YOU HAVE THE COMMUNITY BACKING IT. FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, POLICE DEPARTMENT, EVERYBODY'S BACKING IT. AND IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT IS, LIKE, VERY DIVISIVE. SO ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO REFUTE? WELL, AS THE HISTORY OF THIS TYPE OF FACILITY IS, YES. BUT TO OTHER FACILITIES THAT HAVE HAD WALKAWAYS. IN OUR CASE, WE HAVE THE POWER OF OVER 300 MENTORS TO HELP CHILDREN REGULATE AND CONTROL THEIR EMOTIONS. THAT SAID, I DID MENTION THE FOUR FACILITIES THAT WE DO OPERATE PLUS A MOBILE UNIT, AND THEN I WORKED WITH CYA KIDS FOR THE FIRST FIVE YEARS OF MY CAREER AND UNDERSTAND THAT BEHAVIOR QUITE WELL. AND THEN NEXT I MIGHT EVEN ADD THAT OUR SUPPORT SYSTEMS, WELL, WE DON'T HAVE A LOCKDOWN SYSTEM. WE DO HAVE AN AGREEMENT FROM YOUTH THAT THEY ARE AGREEING TO TREATMENT, SO WE ARE NOT FORCING TREATMENT. SO EVEN BEFORE THEY COME IN, THEY HAVE AN ASSESSMENT, AND THEY HAVE TO BE MOTIVATED TO GET WELL. THAT INCLUDES A WRITTEN AGREEMENT BY THE YOUTH, A WRITTEN AGREEMENT BY THE PARENT, AND WE WOULD ACTUALLY GIVE THEM WHAT THEY CAN LOOK FORWARD TO. SO THEY WOULD BE ACTUALLY LOOKING AT THE FUTURE POSSIBILITIES OF A CAREER. IN EXAMPLE, OUR TRAILBLAZERS PROGRAM USES A SIMILAR CURRICULUM. THE CURRICULUM IS HIGHLY MOTIVATING FOR EVEN TROUBLED YOUTH, AND WE'VE HAD GREAT SUCCESS. WE HAVE TAKEN UP TO 70 KIDS FOR YEARS, LIKE OVER 10 YEARS, THROUGH CAMP HOPE AND CAMP RESILIENCE. IN ALL THOSE YEARS IN THE 70 YOUTH, HOW MANY YOUTH RAN OFF THE PROPERTY? WELL, FOR OUR 70 YOUTH, THAT'S A ONE-WEEK PROGRAM THAT WE HAVE DONE FOR THE PAST 10 YEARS. CORRECT. OVER THE LAST 10 YEARS, HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE FLED? ZERO. ZERO. I HAVE NO OTHER QUESTIONS. WE CATCH THEM RIGHT AFTER THEY I GET IT. AND HERE'S THE THING, TOO. THAT I REALLY WANT TO MAKE SURE I MAKE THE POINT ABOUT IS WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE, I MEAN, SUPERVISOR HARMON, LIKE YOU EVIDENTLY KNOW THE INDIVIDUALS, YOU KNOW, I'VE KNOWN FORMER SUPERVISOR CHAIRMAN LES BAUGH IN DIFFERENT CAPACITIES. THE PEOPLE THAT ARE PART OF THIS PROGRAM ARE EMBEDDED IN THE COMMUNITY AND HAVE BEEN BEDROCKS IN THE COMMUNITY. PASTOR BAUGH OR LES, CAN YOU COME UP PLEASE? I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU. ONE OF THE THINGS I SAID WHEN I WAS RUNNING IN 22, WHICH IT WASN'T VERY POPULAR, BUT I SAID, I THINK GOVERNMENT NEEDS TO GET OUT OF MORE MENTAL HEALTH, AND CHURCHES NEED TO START STEPPING UP. AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS I HAD SORRY, ALL YOU GUYS, I HATE CHURCH. ANYWAY, HOLD ON ONE SECOND, IF I COULD. DON'T YELL OUT AND INTERRUPT THE MEETING. THAT'S YOUR ONE WARNING. AND ONE OF THE THINGS I REALLY LIKED ABOUT THIS PRESENTATION, ABOUT THIS PROJECT, WAS THE ANDERSON COMMUNITY CHURCH, WHICH I'VE NEVER BEEN TO, EVEN THOUGH I GREW UP IN ANDERSON, NEVER WENT THERE. BUT HOW MANY VOLUNTEERS RIGHT NOW DO YOU HAVE ON THE GROUND THAT ARE ALREADY TALKING ABOUT HELPING [01:35:01] IN VARIOUS CAPACITIES IN TERMS OF BUILDING, CONSTRUCTION, MENTORSHIP, ET CETERA? HOW MANY PEOPLE RIGHT NOW? WE ALREADY HAVE 120-PLUS VOLUNTEERS THAT ARE CURRENTLY WORKING THE FACILITY, NON-PAID STAFF WHO VOLUNTEER THEIR TIME AND SHOW UP BECAUSE THERE ARE NEEDS. AND THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT YOU'RE DONATING IS VALUED UPWARDS OF $500,000. PROBABLY A LOT MORE. THE ASSESSED VALUE WAS $550 ON THE COUNTY'S ROLLS. IF WE SOLD IT INSTEAD OF DONATING IT, IT WOULD SELL FOR WELL OVER A MILLION DOLLARS. WE'RE NOT INTERESTED IN MAKING MONEY. WE'RE INTERESTED IN PROMOTING CARE AND RESILIENCE AMONG OUR YOUTH. AND YOU AND YOUR BRIDE OF A FEW YEARS HAVE HAD OVER 50 FOSTER YOUTH COME THROUGH YOUR HOME? YES, SIR. OKAY. SO I HAVE NO OTHER QUESTIONS. I'LL MAKE MY LAST STATEMENT AND THEN I'LL MOVE ON, BUT THANK YOU BOTH. ONE OF THE THINGS FOR ME, AGAIN, IS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE PEOPLE, AND THERE'S NOT AN ENTITY TIED TO IT THAT HAS ALL KINDS OF LEGAL PROBLEMS IN THE PAST. AND WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE CONVERSATIONS I'VE HAD WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT IS THERE'S A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AN UNRULY 12- OR 13-YEAR-OLD VERSUS A 35-YEAR-OLD. AND ALSO, AT THIS FACILITY, THERE IS A HUGE CHOOSE-IN PROCESS FOR THE PEOPLE THAT WANT TO BE INVOLVED IN THIS. AND IT'S NOT SOMETHING WHERE THEY'RE SENT LIKE IT'S A JUVENILE DETENTION CENTER. AND I'M JUST SUPER SUPPORTING IT, AND I'M SORRY THAT IT HAS TO BE TURNED INTO A POLITICAL THEATER, BUT THAT'S WHAT IT IS. THANK YOU, SUPERVISOR CHRIST. SUPERVISOR PLUMMER. YEAH, I THINK WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THESE POPULATIONS AND WE TALK ABOUT THESE TYPES OF FACILITIES WE I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE RECOGNIZE ONE THAT THERE AREN'T PERFECT SOLUTIONS FOR THIS AND TWO THAT RIGHT NOW OUR CURRENT WAY OF ADDRESSING IT IS NOT REALLY WORKING WELL IN TERMS OF THE WAY THAT WE'RE HANDLING SOME OF THIS I DON'T I DON'T KNOW THAT THE, SO I, AND I HAVE SOME CONCERNS, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF THE WHOLE OPT-IN PIECE. I MEAN, IF YOU'RE ALSO SERVING THE HARDEST TO SERVE WHO ARE ON CHILD WELFARE, THEN I'M NOT SURE HOW MUCH OF AN OPT-IN THAT IS. OR, AND IF THEY ARE NOT, AND IF THEY SAY, OH, I DON'T WANT TO BE PART OF THAT, THEN I'M NOT SURE THAT THAT'S SOLVING THE PROBLEM, REALLY. BUT, SO I THINK WHEN WE LOOK AT THIS, WE HAVE TO RECOGNIZE THAT THERE ARE RISKS, AND I THINK THERE ARE CERTAIN RISKS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I DO THINK WE NEED TO FIND DIFFERENT SOLUTIONS THAN WHAT WE ARE CURRENTLY DOING. AND TO THAT QUESTION, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS A QUESTION FOR SANDRA OR FOR CHRISTY COLEMAN, BUT THE KIDS WHO WOULD LIKELY BE GOING TO THIS FACILITY, WHAT IS OUR BEST UNDERSTANDING OF HOW THEY ARE CURRENTLY BEING SERVED, IF AT ALL? THERE ARE LIMITED SERVICES HERE, BUT THERE ARE NO ADOLESCENT SUBSTANCE USE BEDS NORTH OF SACRAMENTO. SO IF THEY ARE BEING ENROLLED IN THOSE TYPES OF TREATMENT SERVICES, THEY'RE HAVING TO TRAVEL OUT OF COUNTY TO RECEIVE THOSE SERVICES? FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, THE MAJORITY OF YOUTH HERE WHO NEED TO GO TO A CRISIS RESIDENTIAL CENTER HAVE TO TRAVEL DOWN TOWARDS SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA AT A VERY HIGH COST. AND SO I THINK THAT'S OFTENTIMES WE DON'T HAVE AN OPTION WHERE WE'RE LIKE, YES, THIS CHECKS ALL THE BOXES. WE FEEL 100% COMFORTABLE WITH IT, BUT IS IT BETTER THAN WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE? THE ONE QUESTION REGARDING THE PUBLIC SAFETY, DID YOU HAVE LETTERS OF SUPPORT FROM ANDERSON, PD, OR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE IN PART OF YOUR APPLICATION? I DID NOT. OKAY. SO HAVE YOU BEEN IN CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM. I COULD BE IN CONVERSATION, AND I'M SURE THAT THEY WOULD SUPPORT A PROGRAM LIKE THIS. OKAY. I DO THINK THAT THAT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS BECAUSE I IMAGINE AT SOME POINT DURING THE 30 YEARS THAT YOU WOULD BE BONDED TO PROVIDE THESE SERVICES THAT THERE WILL BE INTERACTION WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT. AND SO I DO THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT COMPONENT. THE OTHER THING THAT I JUST WANTED TO TOUCH ON, AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I THINK. THAT THE COUNTY SHOULD BE IN THE HABIT OF IN THE FUTURE TOO. AND MAYBE STAFF DID THIS, BUT JUST LOOKING OVER, AND AGAIN, I'M LIKELY TO SUPPORT THIS RIGHT NOW, BUT I DO WANT TO JUST FLAG THIS AS WHEN LOOKING AT YOUR 990 IN TERMS OF THE ORGANIZATION'S FINANCES, I SEE THAT YOU LOST MONEY THE LAST TWO YEARS, YOU HAVE NEGATIVE ASSETS. THIS IS GOING TO BE A BIG LIFT TO TAKE THIS ON TO OPERATE THE CONSTRUCTION ON THE TIMETABLE THAT IS THERE. [01:40:01] CAN YOU HELP US, GIVE US SOME FINANCIAL ASSURANCE THAT YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SEE THIS THROUGH, THAT, YOU KNOW, I KNOW YOU'RE GETTING A LOT OF IN-KIND SUPPORT, BUT ALSO BUILDING SOMETHING LIKE THIS IS GOING TO BE A BIG LIFT. YES, AND THE FINANCIAL SITUATION ISN'T ACCURATELY REPORTED BECAUSE WE HAVE GRANTS OUT THERE. WE FUNDED THE GRANTS AHEAD OF TIME, AND THOSE GRANTS RIGHT NOW, I THINK CURRENTLY WE HAVE TWO HUNDRED AND SEVENTY THOUSAND DOLLARS OWED TO US BY THOSE GRANTS SO WE PAY UP FRONT AND THEN GET REIMBURSED WE HAVEN'T RECEIVED THE REIMBURSEMENT AND SO THEREFORE THE BALANCE SHEET DOES LOOK LIKE OR THE PROFIT AND LOSS DOES LOOK LIKE A LOSS AND THAT IS COMMON OKAY BUT WE'VE BEEN IN OPERATION FOR SINCE TWO THOUSAND AND TEN AND WE'VE KEPT OUR DOORS OPEN AND HAVE NOT EVEN HAD A THREAT TO CLOSE THOSE DOORS. OKAY, THANK YOU. THANK YOU, PLUMBER SUPERVISOR HARMON. YEAH, YOU CAN SIT DOWN. THANK YOU. I'M A LITTLE FRUSTRATED RIGHT NOW, KEVIN, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THIS IS POLITICAL. I HATE POLITICS. THAT'S WHY I'M A SUPERVISOR, RIGHT? NO. BUT SERIOUSLY, IT'S NOT POLITICAL. AND I THINK WE MAY HAVE A FOUR, WE NEED A FOUR OR FIVE VOTE. I THINK WE MAY HAVE A FOUR OR FIVE VOTE RIGHT NOW, I'M NOT SURE. BUT I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A FIVE FOR FIVE VOTE, BECAUSE THIS IS ABOUT OUR KIDS. THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY. WE HAVE A GREAT SUCCESS IN THE PROGRAMS THAT ARE ALREADY BEING OPERATED WITH THIS FACILITY. WELL, THIS IS A NEW FACILITY, BUT WITH THEIR PRIOR FACILITIES THAT ARE ONGOING. AND WE HAVE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO DO SOMETHING FOR THE KIDS. I REALLY LIKE THE IDEA THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE EXTRA BEDS BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE ALL YOU EVER HEAR ABOUT IS SOME EXTRA CAPACITY. AND FORCING KIDS TO COMPLY, THAT'S JUST NOT WHAT WORKS. THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS PROGRAM IS. THIS PROGRAM, I'M LISTENING, THIS PROGRAM IS ABOUT LOVING ON THESE KIDS AND GETTING INSIDE THEIR MIND AND MAKING THEM WANT. CHILDREN WANT TO SUCCEED. CHILDREN WANT TO, THEY DON'T WANT TO BE WHERE THEY'RE AT NECESSARILY IF IT'S THE WRONG PLACE. THEY WANT TO. THEY WANT TO GET DIRECTED IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. THEY JUST NEED HELP. THEY NEED, AND THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO GIVE CHILDREN THE HELP THEY NEED. I LOVE, IT'S KIND OF SCARY, BUT I LOVE THE IDEA THAT IT'S NOT A LOCKDOWN. THAT'S, TO ME, THAT'S LIKE THE FIRST DIRECTION, WRONG DIRECTION TO TRY TO INFLUENCE THEM IS TO LOCK THEM UP. I GET WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. THAT'S KIND OF SCARY, BUT I'M OKAY IF WE BRING SOME FROM TRINITY COUNTY, TAMA COUNTY, SISKIYOU COUNTY AROUND US, BECAUSE WE KNOW THERE'S CHILDREN OUT THERE THAT ALSO NEED HELP. BUT I UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERN, AND I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO GO TO VOTE AND SEE THIS PROGRAM HAPPEN AND MAKE THE RIGHT DECISION. AND I'M HOPING FOR YOURS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SUPERVISOR HERMAN. SUPERVISOR LONG. THANK YOU, CHAIR. AND I'M GOING TO SPEAK TO SUPERVISOR CRYE'S EARLIER COMMENTS, AND I DON'T EXPECT A RESPONSE FROM HIM EITHER. THE SITUATION THAT I VOTED ON FOR TRUE NORTH WAS ENTIRELY DIFFERENT. IT WAS A LOCKDOWN FACILITY, A MUCH LARGER FACILITY. WE HAD BUY-IN FROM LAW ENFORCEMENT. THAT WE HAVE NO KNOWN BY AND FROM LAW ENFORCEMENT AT THIS POINT WE DO NOT KNOW I CAN TELL YOU ANECDOTALLY I'M THE ONLY ONE SITTING ON THIS BOARD THAT HAS DEALT WITH THE ISSUES OF RUNAWAYS FROM THESE TYPES OF FACILITIES WHEN THEY'RE NOT LOCKED DOWN AND THE HAVOC THAT THEY CAN WREAK IN OUR COMMUNITY AND THAT IS NOT THAT IS NOT TO SAY THAT I DON'T SUPPORT MENTAL HEALTH TREATMENT AND FACILITIES AND FUNDING AND OPIOID DOLLARS, THAT IS NOT EVEN CLOSE. WHAT I'M SAYING IS WHEN WE GET A POPULATION THAT WILL BE COMING FROM ALL OVER THE STATE AND WE WILL NOT HAVE PROPER CONTROL NECESSARILY OVER THEM, AND THEY CAN BECOME PART OF OUR CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM AND ON THE FACE OF IT [01:45:02] FOR ADMISSION INTO THESE KINDS OF PROGRAMS THEY HAVE SUBSTANCE ABUSE DISORDERS WHICH I TOTALLY APPRECIATE THAT BUT THEY CAN THEY CAN HAVE POPULATIONS WITH SERIOUS MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES AND BEHAVIORAL HEALTH ISSUES AND THIS IS NOT AS A TOPIC TO BE TAKEN LIGHTLY GIVEN MY EXPERIENCE AND NOBODY ELSE IN THIS BOARD HAS THIS EXPERIENCE DEALING WITH BUT COMMITS FROM AROUND THE STATE AND THE FALLOUT FOR OUR COMMUNITY. SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THAT. THANK YOU, SUPERVISOR LONG. SUPERVISOR PLUMMER. YEAH, I THINK, SUPERVISOR LONG, YOU'RE RAISING GOOD POINTS. AND WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, AND I'M GOING TO REQUEST THAT THIS COMES BACK, BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, SINCE IT SOUNDS LIKE IT HASN'T HAPPENED YET, CONVERSATIONS WITH ANDERSON PD, THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, AND OUR OUR CHIEF OF PROBATION WHO RUNS OUR JUVENILE REHABILITATION FACILITY, BECAUSE I DO THINK FOR THIS TO BE SUCCESSFUL FOR 30 YEARS, IT'S GOING TO REQUIRE THOSE PARTNERSHIPS. AND IF THOSE CONVERSATIONS HAVEN'T HAPPENED YET, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT HAPPEN AND HAVE SOME DIALOGUE THERE TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE SET UP FOR THIS TO NOT REPEAT THE CHALLENGES. AND AGAIN, I DON'T THINK THERE'S PERFECT SOLUTIONS HERE, AND I THINK THIS IS A GOOD EFFORT TO ADDRESS SOMETHING THAT IS. A REAL CHALLENGE. AND SO I GUESS THE QUESTION FOR YOU, DR. WILSON, IS IN TERMS OF, I KNOW THE TIMELINE IS ROLLING NOW THAT THE AWARDS HAVE BEEN ANNOUNCED, BUT IF THIS WERE TO COME BACK IN A MONTH, SAY, WOULD THAT GIVE YOU ENOUGH TIME TO HAVE SOME OF THOSE CONVERSATIONS? TWO WEEKS. READ THE PACKET. IT'S VERY TIME SENSITIVE. SO WE HAVE TO GET ANDERSON CITY COUNCIL'S APPROVAL TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS. AND CHIEF COLLINS, I'M SURE, WILL BE THERE, AND WE CAN GET HIS APPROVAL AS WELL. HEY, LISTEN, IF WE WANT TO DO A FIVE-MINUTE RECESS, WE'LL PUT CHIEF COLLINS OR SHERIFF JOHNSON ON WITH YOU. LIKE, I DID THAT WORK PRIOR, BUT IF YOU NEED TO DO IT NOW, LIKE, LET'S GO AHEAD AND CALL A RECESS AND LET YOU CALL CHIEF COLLINS OR SHERIFF JOHNSON. IF THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN DO, I'M HAPPY TO DO THAT. NOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PROCESS IS. MORNING, CHAIR KALLSTROM, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, AMBER TAIN, DEPUTY COUNTY EXECUTIVE OFFICER. WHEN I MAKE A SUGGESTION THAT WE ADD AS A KIND OF OUR OFFER IS CONTINGENT UPON THEM RECEIVING, IT ALREADY HAS RECEIVING APPROVAL FROM THE CITY COUNCIL. BUT ALSO RECEIVING LAW ENFORCEMENT SUPPORT. I'LL AMEND MY MOTION. SO THAT WAY THEY CAN MAKE THE APRIL 1ST DEADLINE, AND THAT'S A REQUIREMENT BEFORE THE COUNTY WILL MOVE FORWARD WITH THE CONTRACT TO GIVE THEM THESE FUNDS. YES, THAT WOULD WORK. AND JUST IN TERMS OF LAW ENFORCEMENT, I WOULD LIKE TO INCLUDE OUR CHIEF OF PROBATION WHO RUNS THE JUVENILE REHABILITATION FACILITY. ALL RIGHT, SO I'LL AMEND MY MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THIS CONTINGENT UPON A LETTER OF, ARE YOU SAYING SUPPORT? OR JUST A CONVERSATION WITH TRACY? LETTER OF SUPPORT. A LETTER OF SUPPORT FROM PROBATION AS WELL AS LAW ENFORCEMENT. YEAH, EITHER ANDERSON, PD, OR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. ANDERSON OR THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT. OKAY. CAN I ASK REAL QUICK, IN YOUR AMENDED MOTION, CAN YOU GIVE THE AUTHORITY TO THE CEO TO APPROVE THOSE CHANGES TO THE LETTER? FOR SIGNING AUTHORITY? YEAH, SO THE LETTER RIGHT NOW SAYS IT'S CONTINGENT UPON THE CITY COUNCIL, BUT TO ALLOW OUR OFFICE TO MAKE THOSE CHANGES BEFORE THE CHAIR SIGNS THE LETTER. NOT THE OFFICE, BUT THE CEO RECOGNIZES. AND DR. WILSON AND PASTOR BALL, OLIVER COLLINS WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS, HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH YOU. DOES THE MAKER OF THE SECOND AGREE WITH THAT? DO YOU AGREE WITH THE SECOND? YES. OKAY, YES. ALL RIGHT. WITH THAT, ARE YOU DONE, SUPERVISOR PLUMMER? OKAY, WE'LL TAKE A ROLL CALL VOTE STARTING WITH SUPERVISOR PLUMMER. SUPERVISOR PLUMMER? YES. SUPERVISOR CRYE? YES. SUPERVISOR KELLSTROM? YES. SUPERVISOR HARMON? YES. AND SUPERVISOR LONG? NO. PASSES 4-5, 4-1. ALL RIGHT. CHAIR, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND OUR SCHEDULE TODAY TO MOVE R4 UP BEFORE PUBLIC COMMENT. WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE FOR THE ASSESSMENT APPEALS INTERVIEW, AND I WOULD LIKE TO GET THEM DONE. PRIOR TO PUBLIC COMMENT. SO MY MOTION IS TO MOVE R4 UP AND TAKE THAT BEFORE PUBLIC COMMENT. SECOND. YES. MOTION MADE BY SUPERVISOR CHRIST, SECONDED BY SUPERVISOR HARMON. COUNTY COUNCIL, IS THAT ANYTHING WE NEED TO DISCUSS? SO THERE ARE ISSUES THAT THE CLERK CAN EXPLAIN. SHE'S AWARE OF A RECUSAL THAT WILL TAKE PLACE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. THAT WOULD MAKE IT IMPOSSIBLE TO PASS AN ITEM. [01:50:03] AND PUBLIC COMMENT HAS TO GO BEFORE CONSENT. HE'S WANTING TO MOVE R4, NOT C4, R4 ABOVE THE CONSENT. AND I'M GOING TO BE HERE. YOU'RE GOING TO BE HERE? YEAH. I PUSHED MY DOCTOR'S APPOINTMENT WHEN I SAW. THAT SETTLES MY CONCERN THEN. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WITH THAT, WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE. TO MOVE R4 ABOVE PUBLIC COMMENT AND CONSENT CALENDAR. [R4 Take the following actions regarding the Assessment Appeals Board (AAB): (1) Receive a presentation from the Clerk of the Board regarding the AAB’s role and responsibilities; (2) consider applications from Josh Barker, Josh Divine, Nick Kerley, Ken Miller, Ken Murray, and Kurt Swanson; (3) appoint as members: (a) one applicant to serve the remainder of a three-year term to September 7, 2026; and (b) one applicant to serve the remainder of a three-year term to September 4, 2028; and (4) appoint the remaining four applicants as alternates as follows: (a) two applicants to serve the remainder of three-year terms to September 7, 2026; and (b) two applicants to serve the remainder of three-year terms to September 4, 2028.] SO ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO R4 THEN. SO HEARING R4, TAKE THE FOLLOWING ACTIONS REGARDING THE ASSESSMENT APPEALS BOARD. RECEIVE A PRESENTATION FROM THE CLERK OF THE BOARD REGARDING THE AEB'S ROLE AND RESPONSIBILITIES. CONSIDER APPLICATIONS FROM JOSH BAKER, JOSH DEVINE, NICK CURLEY, KEN MILLER, KEN MURRAY, AND KURT SWANSON. APPOINT AS MEMBERS. ONE APPLICANT TO SERVE THE REMAINDER OF A THREE-YEAR TERM TO SEPTEMBER 7TH, 2026, AND ONE APPLICANT TO SERVE THE REMAINDER OF A THREE-YEAR TERM TO SEPTEMBER 4TH, 2028. APPOINT THE REMAINING FOUR APPLICANTS AS ALTERNATES AS FOLLOWS. TWO APPLICANTS TO SERVE THE REMAINDER OF THREE-YEAR TERMS TO SEPTEMBER 7TH, 2026, AND TWO APPLICANTS TO SERVE THE REMAINDER OF THREE-YEAR TERMS TO SEPTEMBER 4TH, 2028. ALL RIGHT, SUPERVISOR CRYE, YOU MOVE THIS. WELL, YEAH, I JUST MOVED IT BECAUSE I KNOW WE HAD SOME PEOPLE ALREADY LEAVE, AND I DIDN'T WANT ANY OF THE APPLICANTS WHO TOOK TIME OUT OF THEIR DAY TO BE A PART OF THE INTERVIEW PROCESS SINCE WE BROUGHT THIS BACK, AND WE FELT IT WAS IMPORTANT ENOUGH TO HEAR FROM EVERYBODY. I WANTED EVERYONE TO BE ABLE TO HEAR FROM PEOPLE, SO I'M NOT THE SPONSOR OF IT. SO I THINK IT'S STEPHANIE. YES, SO GOOD MORNING CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, STEPHANIE BLANKENSHIP, CHIEF DEPUTY CLERK OF THE BOARD. I'M BEFORE YOU TODAY AT THE REQUEST OF CEO RICKERT TO WALK THROUGH THE ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES AND RISKS ASSOCIATED WITH SERVING ON THE ASSESSMENT APPEALS BOARD. THIS ISN'T JUST ABOUT PROCESS, IT'S ABOUT PROTECTING THE INTEGRITY OF DECISIONS, ENSURING FAIRNESS TO TAXPAYERS, AND PROTECTING THE COUNTY FROM LEGAL AND FINANCIAL RISK. WE'LL COVER WHAT THE ASSESSMENT APPEALS BOARD DOES, WHAT IT CANNOT DO, AND WHERE THINGS GO WRONG IF THOSE BOUNDARIES AREN'T FOLLOWED. EVERY DECISION MADE BY THE ASSESSMENT APPEALS BOARD HAS REAL CONSEQUENCES. THESE DECISIONS DIRECTLY IMPACT TAXPAYER RIGHTS, AND THEY ALSO AFFECT COUNTY REVENUE. BECAUSE OF THAT, THE ASSESSMENT APPEALS BOARD OPERATES IN WHAT'S CALLED A QUASI JUDICIAL ROLE, MEANING IT FUNCTIONS VERY MUCH LIKE A COURT. THE DECISIONS MADE ARE LEGALLY BINDING, AND THEY CAN ONLY BE CHALLENGED AND REVIEWED IN COURT. SO AT THE CORE, THE INTEGRITY OF THE PROCESS DEPENDS ON QUALIFIED AND PARTIAL DECISION MAKING BY THOSE APPOINTED TO THE ASSESSMENT APPEALS BOARD BY THIS BOARD. AGAIN, WHEN I SAY QUASI JUDICIAL, WHAT IT REALLY MEANS IS THAT THE BOARD ACTS LIKE A JUDGE. THEY HEAR EVIDENCE FROM BOTH SIDES AND ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR MAKING AN INDEPENDENT DETERMINATION. THEY DO NOT REPRESENT ANYONE. THEY'RE NOT ON THE SIDE OF THE TAXPAYER NOR THE ASSESSOR. AND JUST LIKE IN COURT, DUE PROCESS MATTERS. THAT MEANS PROPER NOTICE AND A FAIR OPPORTUNITY FOR BOTH SIDES TO BE HEARD. AT THE END OF THE DAY, THEIR DECISION REPLACES THE ASSESSOR'S JUDGMENT ON VALUE. THE BOARD IS AN INDEPENDENT DECISION MAKER. THEIR ROLE IS TO ACT AS A NEUTRAL FACT FINDER, LISTENING TO THE EVIDENCE THAT IS SUBMITTED, WEIGHING IN, AND DETERMINING THE CORRECT VALUE. THE INDEPENDENCE IS CRITICAL. IT'S WHAT ENSURES FAIRNESS AND MAINTAINS PUBLIC TRUST IN THE PROCESS. IT'S JUST AS IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE ASSESSMENT APPEALS BOARD IS NOT. THE ASSESSMENT APPEALS BOARD IS NOT AN ADVOCATE FOR THE TAXPAYER, AND IT'S NOT AN ADVOCATE FOR THE ASSESSOR. IT'S NOT A POLICY-MAKING BODY, AND IT'S NOT AUTHORIZED TO DECIDE EXEMPTION ISSUES OR BROADER TAX POLICY. STAYING WITHIN THE ROLE IS KEY, BEING ONCE THE ASSESSMENT APPEALS BOARD STARTS PREPPING OUTSIDE OF IT. THAT'S WHERE LEGAL PROBLEMS BEGIN. THE CASES THAT COME BEFORE THE ASSESSMENT APPEALS CAN BE SUPER COMPLEX. THEY MAY VARY WITH DETAILED VALUATION ISSUES LIKE INCOME-PRODUCING PROPERTIES OR SUBDIVISIONS AND SOMETIMES LEGAL QUESTIONS TIED TO OWNERSHIP OR NEW CONSTRUCTION. BECAUSE OF THAT, TRAINING AND EXPERIENCE ARE ESSENTIAL. THEY'RE NOT OPTIONAL. WITHOUT THE NECESSARY EXPERTISE, THERE'S A REAL RISK IN MISAPPLYING VALUATION METHODS, MAKING UNSUPPORTED DECISIONS, AND ULTIMATELY EXPOSING COUNTY TO LEGAL CHALLENGES. THE BOARD'S PRIMARY RESPONSIBILITY IN GOVERNANCE THROUGH APPOINTMENTS IS SELECTING INDIVIDUALS CAPABLE OF MAKING SOUND, DEFENSIBLE DECISIONS. ONCE APPOINTED, THE ASSESSMENT APPEALS BOARD OPERATES INDEPENDENTLY AS A QUASI-JUDICIAL BODY, AS I'VE PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED, MEANING ITS DECISIONS ARE BASED SOLELY ON THE EVIDENCE PRESENTED AT HEARINGS IN APPLICABLE LAW. THERE IS NO APPEAL OF THOSE DECISIONS TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, SIMILAR TO HOW YOU WILL SEE LATER TODAY [01:55:01] AS THE APPEAL FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION. AND THE BOARD DOES NOT DIRECTLY DIRECT OR INFLUENCE OUTCOMES IN INDIVIDUAL CASES. THAT SEPARATION IS INTENTIONAL. IT PROTECTS DUE PROCESS, PRESERVES IMPARTIALITY, AND HELPS ENSURE DECISIONS WILL STAND UP IF CHALLENGED IN COURT. EVERY CASE OF THE ASSESSMENT APPEALS BOARD MUST FOLLOW A FAIR AND CONSISTENT PROCESS. THAT INCLUDES ENSURING PROPER NOTICE, GIVING BOTH SIDES THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HEARD, AND CAREFULLY EVALUATING THE EVIDENCE PRESENTED. THEY MUST APPLY RECOGNIZED APPRAISAL METHODS AND REACH A DECISION THAT IS SUPPORTED BY THE EVIDENCE. AND ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS TO REMEMBER IS THIS. THE ASSESSMENT APPEALS BOARD'S JOB IS TO DETERMINE VALUE, NOT CHOOSE SIDES. ONE OF THE MOST CRITICAL ROLES IS THAT DECISIONS MUST BE BASED ONLY ON THE EVIDENCE PRESENTED DURING THE HEARING. THE BOARD SHOULD NOT RELY ON OUTSIDE INFORMATION, PERSONAL KNOWLEDGE, OR INDEPENDENT RESEARCH. THIS PROTECTS THE FAIRNESS IN PROCESS AND ENSURES THAT BOARD PARTIES THANK YOU. THAT BOTH PARTIES HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND TO THE SAME INFORMATION. THIS IS ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT AREAS TO UNDERSTAND. THE ASSESSMENT APPEALS BOARD'S AUTHORITY IS LIMITED BY LAW. IT CAN ONLY ACT WITHIN ITS JURISDICTION. IF THERE'S NO VALID OR TIMELY APPLICATION, THE BOARD DOESN'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO ACT. IF AN ISSUE FALLS OUTSIDE THE VALUATION OR LEGAL MATTERS TIED TO VALUE, THE BOARD CANNOT DECIDE IT. AN EXAMPLE OF THIS WOULD BE REDUCING TAXES DUE TO INABILITY TO PAY TAXES. AND EVEN IF SOMETHING SEEMS FAIR OR REASONABLE, IF IT'S OUTSIDE THE BOARD'S AUTHORITY, ACTING ON IT INVALIDATES THE DECISION. SO THE KEY TAKEAWAYS HERE. IS AUTHORITY IS LIMITED AND EXCEEDING IT CAN UNDO THE ENTIRE OUTCOME. WHEN IT COMES TO VALUATION, THE BOARD MUST RELY ON RECOGNIZED APPRAISAL METHODS LIKE THE SALES COMPARISON APPROACH, INCOME APPROACH, AND COST APPROACH. THE BOARD'S ROLE IS TO WEIGH THE EVIDENCE AND RECONCILE IT INTO A SUPPORTED CONCLUSION. WHAT THE BOARD CANNOT DO IS SIMPLY PICK A NUMBER AND SPLIT THE DIFFERENCE WITHOUT A CLEAR BASIS. EVERY VALUE EVERY VALUE MUST BE SUPPORTED BY THE EVIDENCE AND GROUNDED IN ACCEPTED METHODOLOGY. IMPARTIALITY IS ABSOLUTELY CRITICAL. THIS INCLUDES NOT JUST ACTUAL BIAS, BUT EVEN THE APPEARANCE OF BIAS. IF A BOARD MEMBER HAS A FINANCIAL INTEREST, A PERSONAL OR PROFESSIONAL RELATIONSHIP, PRIOR INVOLVEMENT, NOT INCLUDING INVOLVEMENT AS A SITTING PRIOR AAB MEMBER, OR ANYTHING THAT COULD CALL THEIR NEUTRALITY INTO QUESTION, RECUSAL WILL BE REQUIRED. A SIMPLE WAY TO THINK ABOUT THIS IS IF, A REASONABLE PERSON WOULD QUESTION YOUR IMPARTIALITY, YOU SHOULD STEP ASIDE. RECUSAL ISN'T A PROBLEM IF IT'S ACTUALLY A SAFEGUARD THAT PROTECTS THE INTEGRITY OF THE DECISION. WHEN THE ASSESSMENT APPEALS BOARD STEPS OUTSIDE THEIR AUTHORITY, THERE ARE REAL CONSEQUENCES. LEGAL DECISIONS CAN BE OVERTURNED IN COURT AND CASES MAY HAVE TO BE REHEARD. PROCEDURALLY, IT CAN RESULT IN DUE PROCESS VIOLATIONS AND LOSS OF JURISDICTION, MAKING DECISIONS INVALID. AND BEYOND THAT, IT CAN DAMAGE THE CREDIBILITY OF THE ASSESSMENT APPEALS BOARD AND ERODE PUBLIC TRUST. ULTIMATELY, IT LEADS TO MORE TIME, MORE COST, AND MORE SCRUTINY. FAILING TO RECUSE WHEN REQUIRED IS ONE OF THE MOST SERIOUS RISKS. EVEN IF THE DECISION ITSELF IS OTHERWISE CORRECT, THE PRESENCE OR EVEN THE APPEARANCE OF BIAS CAN INVALIDATE THE ENTIRE OUTCOME. THAT CAN LEAD THE CASE TO BEING REVERSED OR SENT BACK TO HEARING AND IT CAN EXPOSE THE COUNTY TO LEGAL AND REPUTATIONAL HARM I CAN'T STRESS THIS ENOUGH THAT EVEN THE APPEARANCE OF BIAS CAN UNDERMINE THE ENTIRE DECISION LET'S LOOK AT A COUPLE PRACTICAL EXAMPLES FIRST WHAT IF A BOARD MEMBER KNOWS THE APPLICANT THAT IMMEDIATELY RAISES A QUESTION ABOUT IMPARTIALITY AND MAY REQUIRE RECUSAL SECOND WHAT IF NEITHER PARTY PRESENTS SUFFICIENT VALUATION EVIDENCE IN THAT CASE THE BOARD MAY NOT HAVE SUFFICIENT BASIS TO MAKE A SUPPORTED DECISION. THESE SITUATIONS HIGHLIGHT THE IMPORTANCE OF FOCUSING ON PROCESS, AUTHORITY, AND EVIDENCE, NOT JUST THE OUTCOME. AS MENTIONED BEFORE, THE ASSESSMENT APPEALS BOARD'S ROLE IS LIMITED BUT VERY POWERFUL. EVERY DECISION MUST BE LAWFULLY BASED ON EVIDENCE AND MADE IMPARTIALLY. TRAINING AND QUALIFICATIONS ARE ESSENTIAL SAFEGUARDS, AND RECUSAL PLAYS A CRITICAL ROLE IN PROTECTING THE PROCESS. WHEN THESE PRINCIPLES ARE FOLLOWED, DECISIONS ARE DEFENSIBLE AND THE PROCESS REMAINS FAIR. IN CLOSING, THE STRENGTH OF THE ASSESSMENT APPEALS BOARD PROCESS DEPENDS ON STAYING WITHIN JURISDICTION, RELYING ON EVIDENCE, AND MAINTAINING IMPARTIALITY. WHEN THOSE PRINCIPLES ARE FOLLOWED, THE ASSESSMENT APPEALS BOARD'S DECISIONS ARE NOT ONLY LEGALLY SOUND, THEY'RE TRUSTED. AND WITH THAT IN MIND, THE ITEM BEFORE YOU TODAY IS TO CONSIDER THE APPLICATIONS RECEIVED AND MAKE APPOINTMENTS TO THE VACANT MEMBER SEATS AND ALTERNATE SEATS ON THE ASSESSMENT APPEALS BOARD, A DECISION THAT DIRECTLY IMPACTS THE INTEGRITY OF THE PROCESS. GIVEN THE RESPONSIBILITY AND RISK WE'VE DISCUSSED, IT'S IMPORTANT TO ENSURE THAT ANY A POINTEE IS PREPARED TO MEET THESE EXPECTATIONS, BOTH IN TERMS OF QUALIFICATIONS AND THE ABILITY TO SERVE AS AN IMPARTIAL DECISION MAKER. THANK YOU, AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. THANK YOU, MS. BRIDGET. WOULD WE LIKE TO [02:00:02] BLANKETSHIP. BLANKETSHIP, YES. I'M SORRY. MY BAD. I SHOULD HAVE JUST SAID STEPHANIE. I WOULD HAVE COVERED THEM ALL. BUT WOULD YOU LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE APPLICANTS? I WOULD. OKAY. IF WE COULD IF ANY OF THE APPLICANTS ARE HERE, WE CAN HEAR THEM IN ORDER. SO I WAS INFORMED THAT TWO APPLICANTS ARE NOT AVAILABLE DUE TO EITHER PRIOR OBLIGATIONS OR SCHEDULING CONFLICTS, AND THAT'S NICK CURLEY AND KEN MILLER. BUT THE REMAINDER WE EITHER HAVEN'T HEARD FROM OR DID CONFIRM THAT THEY WERE HERE. AND I BELIEVE I SEE AT LEAST ONE OF THEM. KURT'S HERE. JOSH IS HERE. OKAY. WE HAVE A FEW. YOU GUYS CAN SIT IN THE FRONT ROW OR ARM WRESTLE, LEG WRESTLE, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO. WHO GOES FIRST? KURT, WHY DON'T YOU GO FIRST SINCE JOSH SAT THROUGH THE WHOLE THING AND YOU STEPPED OUT FOR A QUICK BITE TO EAT. WELCOME. WELCOME. THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. AND THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERING MY APPLICATION FOR THIS APPEALS BOARD. A LITTLE BACKGROUND ABOUT MYSELF. IS THAT APPROPRIATE? I DON'T KNOW. IT'S YOUR TIME. GO AHEAD. OKAY, GREAT. WELL, I'M A CERTIFIED PUBLIC ACCOUNTANT. I'VE BEEN LICENSED IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA SINCE MARCH OF 2014. AND ONE OF THE BASIS OF BEING A CERTIFIED PUBLIC ACCOUNTANT IS INDEPENDENCE. AND THAT'S INDEPENDENCE IN APPEARANCE AND ALSO INDEPENDENCE IN FACT. AND SO I KNOW THAT THAT'S AN IMPORTANT ASPECT OF BEING A PART OF THE BOARD. OUR PROFESSIONAL ETHICS REQUIRE ETHICAL BEHAVIOR AT ALL TIME AS A CERTIFIED PUBLIC ACCOUNTANT AND IT TOOK ME YEARS TO EARN THAT DESIGNATION AND THERE WAS NOTHING I WOULD EVER DO UNETHICAL BECAUSE I WOULD NEVER RISK MY LICENSE. IT'S TOO IMPORTANT TO ME AND MY FAMILY SO. I APPRECIATE THIS OPPORTUNITY AND I JUST REALLY WANT TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY IN ANY WAY I CAN. THAT'S NOT IN A POLITICAL WAY. AND IN FULL DISCLOSURE, I INVITED HIM TO LUNCH, PAID FOR HIS LUNCH, AND I'VE GOTTEN TO BE SOMEWHAT GOOD FRIENDS WITH HIM. I'VE TWISTED HIS ARM AND I SAID, DUDE, YOU WERE GOING TO RUN FOR OFFICE. THE LEAST YOU COULD DO IS BE IN THIS BOARD POSITION AND GIVE BACK, AND HE WAS ALL FOR IT. SO THANK YOU FOR COMING. THANK YOU, MR. SWANSON. BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE UP SOMETHING, SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE KNOW. YEAH, IT'S ALL GOOD. KEVIN BOUGHT ME LUNCH. YEAH. YOU'RE ON THE TAKE NOW. BOUGHT YOU LUNCH. THANK YOU. MR. BARKER. WHO BOUGHT YOUR LUNCH? NOBODY BOUGHT ME LUNCH. ARE YOU OFFERING? I DON'T KNOW HOW THIS WORKS. WELL, FIRST OF ALL, AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME AND THANK YOU FOR TAKING MY APPLICATION AND THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING THAT EVERYBODY DOES HERE. FIRST TIME I'VE EVER BEEN IN THIS ROOM. REALLY BLOWN AWAY BY THE WORK YOU HAVE TO DO AND THANK YOU, REALLY MEAN THAT. I WAS TOLD A FEW WEEKS AGO, MAYBE A MONTH AGO, I CAN'T RECALL, THAT THERE MAY BE SOME CHALLENGES IN THE ASSESSMENT APPEALS BOARD, NOT CHALLENGES IN TERMS OF SERVICING, BUT JUST MAYBE THERE WOULD BE A SHORTCOMING THERE. AND SO SOMEBODY ASKED THAT I WOULD VOLUNTEER AND OF COURSE I DON'T LIKE TO SAY NO TO THAT, SO THAT'S WHY I CAME. MY WORK EXPERIENCE, I'VE BEEN SELLING REAL ESTATE HERE SINCE THE YEAR 2000, BEEN A LICENSED REAL ESTATE BROKER SINCE 2003, PARTICIPATED IN OVERSEEING A LITTLE OVER 08,000 TRANSACTIONS, INVOLVED IN COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT, LAND DEVELOPMENT, AND ACTUALLY LOOKING IN THIS ROOM, MANY OF THESE PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM, WHICH IS THE ONLY CONCERN I MIGHT HAVE, I'VE HAD THE HONOR AND PRIVILEGE OF SERVING A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE. AND SO MY ONLY THOUGHT WAS IS THAT IF I COULD HELP IN ANY WAY TO HELP IDENTIFY VALUE AND BE JUST IN DOING SO, IT WOULD BE THE ONLY INTEREST I WOULD HAVE. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. WELL, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? WE DO, CHAIR. WE HAVE TWO SPEAKERS. FIRST UP, DOLORES LUCERO, FOLLOWED BY ROCKY SLAUGHTER. I RECOMMEND MR. JOSH FALKER. I'VE KNOWN HIM FOR A LONG TIME. AND I UNDERSTAND THE LITTLE PRESENTATION YOU GUYS DID TO SHOW THE RULES AND TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY DON'T BREAK. AND, YOU KNOW, I HAVE A HARD TIME JUST WATCHING IT BECAUSE I'M WATCHING IT BECAUSE IT JUST BOTHERS ME THAT GOOD PEOPLE TAKE THE TIME TO COME UP HERE AND THEN TAKE THE TIME TO SUBMIT AN APPLICATION. [02:05:02] AND WHEN THEY GET IN AN OFFICE OR ANY POSITION, THEY COME OUT THE SAME WAY THAT YOU GUYS DO. I MEAN, BREAK THE LAWS AND DO EVERYTHING YOU CAN AGAINST THE PEOPLE. SO I'M GOING TO SAY, MR. JOSH BARKER, I'M JUST GOING TO TELL YOU GUYS TO BE CAUTIOUS. DON'T LET ANYONE TO MANIPULATE YOU, TO DICTATE YOU, TO CHANGE YOUR DECISION ON ANYTHING, AND TO BREAK, FOR THEM TO CONVINCE YOU TO BREAK ANY LAWS, BECAUSE YOUR NAME IS ON THE LINE. AND I'LL TELL YOU RIGHT NOW, ANYBODY WHO DOES THAT, I WILL MAKE SURE THAT ANYBODY DOES ANY CONFLICT OF INTEREST, VIOLATES THOSE LAWS, I WILL FILE COMPLAINTS, EVEN THOUGH I KNOW YOU GUYS, BUT I WILL GIVE YOU A WARNING. BUT I'M TELLING YOU RIGHT NOW, THOSE ARE PROHIBITED. IN CRISIS. SITS THERE LAUGHING, THINKING IT'S FUNNY, BECAUSE KEVIN KREID DOESN'T GIVE A RAT'S ASS WHO BREAKS THE LAW. AND I'M JUST TELLING YOU, THIS IS A SERIOUS THING. WHEN YOU TAKE A POSITION, WHEN YOU HAVE PEOPLE WATCHING OVER YOU AND YOU'RE REPRESENTING THE CITIZENS, YOU ALSO HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW THE LAW. LIKE THESE GUYS HERE DON'T FOLLOW THE LAWS. AND KEVIN KREID'S THE WORST ONE. AND I'LL TELL YOU RIGHT NOW. HE'S THE WORST ONE. YOU BETTER BE CAREFUL WITH HIM NOT MANIPULATING YOU BECAUSE HE'S A DICTATOR. HE'S A SNEAKY ONE. HE'LL PLAY THIS GAME, AND THEN HE PLAYS LIKE HE WANTS TO BE YOUR FRIEND, BUT HE ALWAYS WANTS SOMETHING FROM YOU. SO I HOPE THAT YOU GUYS ALSO ARE SUPPOSED TO BE A ROLE MODEL TO TEACH PEOPLE ABOUT RULES BECAUSE YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW TO FOLLOW. HOW DO YOU EXPECT OTHER PEOPLE TO FOLLOW WHEN YOU DON'T EVEN FOLLOW THEM YOURSELF? KEVIN CRYE. I CAN'T WAIT FOR YOU TO BE REMOVED FROM OFFICE. BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT GONNA HAVE A SAY ON OTHER PEOPLE'S DECISIONS. AND THESE PEOPLE WHO ARE TAKING THE TIME TO BE APPOINTED HOPEFULLY. YOU DON'T HAVE AN INPUT TO TELL THEM WHAT TO SAY AND WHAT TO DO. YOU'RE A DICTATOR. YOU'RE IMPOSSIBLE TO DEAL WITH. YEAH, YOU CAN LAUGH ALL YOU WANT. I DON'T CARE. I'M NOT THE ONE WHO'S SICK. YOU ARE SICK. YOU ARE SICK TO, YOU KNOW, WHO YOU ARE. YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET AWAY WITH WHAT YOU'VE DONE. NEXT UP, ROCKY FLUTTER. MORNING, SUPERVISORS, CHAIR KALLSTROM. I'M UP HERE. MY NAME IS ROCKY SLAUGHTER. I SERVE AS COUNSEL TO BLOCK 7 RETAIL INVESTORS, LLC. I'VE BEEN HERE THE LAST TWO MEETINGS, SO YOU'VE HEARD MY SPIEL. BUT I JUST WANTED TO THANK EACH ONE OF YOU FOR TAKING THIS, WHAT IS NORMALLY KIND OF A PERFUNCTORY VOTE, SERIOUSLY AND APPLYING DUE DILIGENCE AND DOING THE RESEARCH. I SEE THE TIME THAT EACH OF YOU HAVE PUT INTO THIS, SO I WANTED TO APPRECIATE THAT. AND THEN SECONDLY, THIS JOB IS BASED ON IMPARTIALITY AND KNOWLEDGE. AND KNOWLEDGE DEPENDS ON KNOWLEDGE OF TODAY'S MARKET. SO THERE ARE FOUR POTENTIAL ALTERNATES THAT COULD BE SELECTED TODAY. I THINK FOUR ALTERNATES FOR A THREE-PERSON PANEL IS A LITTLE BIT UNUSUAL. BUT IF YOU HAD TO RANK THE ALTERNATES, I WOULD THINK THAT KNOWLEDGE OF TODAY'S MARKET, SO WE'VE GOT ABOUT $300 MILLION OF NEW DEVELOPMENT THAT IS JUST RIGHT OUTSIDE THIS WINDOW. AND SO THAT ALL HAPPENED THE LAST SEVEN YEARS. SO I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO CONSIDER THEIR IMPARTIALITY, THEIR CREDENTIALS, THEIR KNOWLEDGE, AND THEIR KNOWLEDGE OF TODAY'S MARKET. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SUPERVISOR CRYE. YEAH, SO DID ANYBODY HERE ON THE BOARD GET A CHANCE TO SPEAK TO NICK CURLEY OR KEN MILLER OR KEN MURRAY? ANYBODY? WELL, WE HEARD KEN MILLER LAST TIME AND JOSH DEVINE WAS HERE. KEN MURRAY. IT WAS KEN MURRAY LAST TIME. OKAY, SO. THIS IS MR. BARKER. WOULD YOU COME UP REAL QUICK? I JUST WANT TO, YOU KNOW, I HOPE YOUR DECORATED MILITARY CAREER PREPARES YOU FOR THE EXTREME PRESSURE OF THE SHASTA COUNTY ASSESSMENT APPEALS BOARD. I HOPE YOU DON'T SUCCUMB TO IT. ANYWAY, SO LIKE, I DIDN'T RECRUIT YOU. I MEAN, IS THIS SOMETHING YOU WANT? I DO. YOU GUYS ARE BOTH HERE. DO YOU LOOK? DO YOU WANT TO SERVE AS AN ALTERNATE OR DO YOU WANT TO BE ON THE BOARD? BECAUSE I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION AND I WANT TO KNOW IF YOU WANT TO BE THE FIRST ALTERNATE OR YOU WANT TO BE ON THE BOARD. WHAT I HEARD TODAY IN TERMS OF THE NAMES THAT WERE MENTIONED I THINK ARE VERY QUALIFIED. SO I THINK I'M JUST ONE OF MANY. AND I WOULD TRUST YOUR JUDGMENT TODAY ON WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO DO. WELL, THEN I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE I'M JUST GOING TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPOINT JOSH BARKER AND KURT SWANSON TO THE APPEALS BOARD. AND THEN I WOULD LIKE TO RANK. ARE ALTERNATES AND I KNOW STEPHANIE WE HAD SOME DISCUSSION ON THIS BUT I WOULD LIKE NICK CURLY FOLLOWED BY KEN MILLER AND THEN KEN [02:10:02] MURRAY TO FILL OUT THOSE ALTERNATE SPOTS THAT'S MY MOTION REAL QUICK SIR CHAIRMAN YEAH WE NEED TO CLARIFY BECAUSE ONE POSITION EXPIRES IN 26 AND ONE POSITION EXPIRES IN 28. SO FOR THE RECORD AND FOR CLARITY UM I WOULD ASK THAT YOU STATE A NAME AND PLACE THEM IN EITHER 3A, 3B, 4A, OR 4B. OKAY. I'LL DO THAT THEN. THEN THE SHORTER TERM WAS THE 3A, CORRECT? CORRECT. SO I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPOINT KURT SWANSON TO 3A AND THEN JOSH BARKER TO 3B AND THEN THE, I THINK IT WAS, WHAT WAS THE SECOND PART FOR THE ALTERNATES? SO THE ALTERNATES, THERE'S ALSO TWO SEPARATE TERMS. SO THERE'S TWO TO SEPTEMBER 7TH, 2026, AND THEN THERE'S TWO TO SEPTEMBER 4TH, 2028. SO THE FIRST ONE I'LL PUT NICK CURLEY, AND THE SECOND ONE I'LL PUT KEN MILLER. THEN THE OTHER TWO TERMS? YES. NO, NO, THERE'S TWO FOR THE 26TH, THE TERM ENDING IN 26, AND TWO FOR THE TERM ENDING IN 28. AND THEN, YEAH, YEAH. WE DON'T HAVE TO, I DON'T THINK, AT THIS POINT FOR THAT, DO WE? BECAUSE YOU'D WANT THE ALTERNATE. WHAT'S THAT? YES, ONE IS CORRECT. SO JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, YOU'RE ONLY APPOINTING ONE ALTERNATE TO THE 2026 EXPIRATION, WHICH IS NICK CURLEY. BECAUSE MURRAY IS ALREADY THERE, CORRECT? NO, WE WOULD NEED TO APPOINT MURRAY. OKAY, WELL THEN, YEAH, NICK CURLEY AND KEN MILLER. AND THOSE ARE FOR THE SHORTENED TERM THAT EXPIRES IN 2026. AND THEN DO YOU WANT TO APPOINT TWO ALTERNATE MEMBERS TO THE TERM THAT EXPIRES SEPTEMBER 2028? WHICH CAN JUST BE THE REMAINING MEMBERS? YEAH, I MEAN, I THINK, YEAH, KEN MILLER AND JOSH DEVINE. KEN MILLER AND JOSH DEVINE. OKAY, DID YOU WANT KEN MILLER AS THE ALTERNATE THAT EXPIRES IN 2026 OR KEN MURRAY? YOU SAID MILLER. OH, I'M SORRY. WE'LL PUT MILLER ON THE ONE THAT EXPIRES IN 2028 AND THEN MURRAY ON 2026 WITH NICK CURLEY ON THE 2026 ONE. OKAY. SO TO CONFIRM FOR THE RECORD, THE MEMBERS THAT WOULD BE PART OF YOUR MOTION WOULD BE FOR 3A WOULD BE KURT SWANSON. 3B WOULD BE JOSH BARKER. 4A WOULD BE NICK CURLEY AND KEN MURRAY. AND 4B WOULD BE JOSH DEVINE AND KEN MILLER. YES. BOY, THAT WAS THE EASIEST MOTION I'VE EVER HEARD MADE. YEAH. WELL, DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I'M GOING TO HAVE TO GET AN ALTERNATE LIKE THAT. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND IT. OKAY. SO, SUPERVISOR LONG. THANK YOU. I WOULD LIKE THE TWO APPLICANTS MAYBE TO COME UP ONE AT A TIME. MR. BARKER. YES, SIR. THANK YOU FOR YOUR WILLINGNESS TO SERVE ON THIS. THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE ALL GET INVOLVED IN THE COMMUNITY. I APPRECIATE THAT. AND THE REVENUE AND TAXATION CODE, WHICH IS A HUGE PART OF THAT, ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THAT? I'M GOING TO THROW A CURVEBALL AT YOU. SORRY ABOUT THAT. BUT ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THAT PROCESS? AND IS THAT SOMETHING YOU WOULD COMMIT TO LEARNING ABOUT THAT? BECAUSE THAT'S A BIG FACTOR IN WHAT THEY DO FOR THEIR ASSESSMENT PROCESS. YES, I WOULD ABSOLUTELY BE COMMITTED TO LEARNING MORE ABOUT IT FOR SURE. AS A PROPERTY OWNER, I'VE EXPERIENCED SOME OF THOSE THINGS. YOU KNOW, IN 2006, I CAN RECALL WHEN THINGS WERE TOUGH WITH COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS, AND I OWNED SOME AT THAT TIME. IN THE COUNTY, PROACTIVELY, WITHOUT ANY INVOLVEMENT FROM ME, IT ACTUALLY REASSESSED OUR PROPERTIES DOWN. IT TOOK SOME TEMPORARY RELIEF OFF OF OUR FAMILY WITHOUT US REQUESTING IT. I THINK THAT'S A PROP. THAT'S A PROP EIGHT REDUCTION. IT WAS. YES. YES. RIGHT. SO I'VE SEEN HOW THE ASSESSMENTS WORKED IN REAL TIME AND CAN UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO LEARN IT TO THE HIGHEST EXTENT WE CAN, ESPECIALLY FOR THE ROLE WE'RE PROPOSING TO BE A PART OF. OKAY AND JUST, I KNOW IT WAS ALREADY ASKED AND ANSWERED, BUT THIS IS SOMETHING YOU REALLY WANT TO COMMIT TO BECAUSE THIS, IT DOESN'T MEET VERY OFTEN LIKE ONCE A YEAR, BUT IT IS AN INVOLVED PROCESS THAT YOU HAVE TO STAY REALLY UP TO SPEED AND WORK TO GET PROPER, FAIR, IMPARTIAL VALUATIONS. 100% AGREE WITH YOU ON YOUR STATEMENT THERE, AND I DO BELIEVE THAT IT'S MY OBLIGATION WITH THE EXPERIENCE I CAN BRING TO IT TO SERVE ANY WAY I CAN. OKAY, ALL RIGHT. THANKS A LOT. THANK YOU. KURT, COULD I ASK YOU THE SAME [02:15:01] QUESTIONS? ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THE REVENUE AND TAXATION CODES? I'M FAMILIAR WITH IT AS FAR AS BEING A HOMEOWNER FOR THE LAST 25 YEARS. OKAY. BUT I WOULD MOST CERTAINLY COMMIT TO LEARNING. IN MY EXPERIENCE AS FINANCE MANAGER FOR THE CITY OF SHASTA LAKE, WORKING WITH SHASTA COUNTY AND RECEIVING PROPERTY TAX DOLLARS ON BEHALF OF THE CITY, THAT'S ANOTHER ASPECT THAT I WAS ALSO INVOLVED IN. AND SO I THINK I HAVE A A CURSORY UNDERSTANDING, BUT I'M DEFINITELY COMMITTED TO THROWING MY BRAINPOWER AT IT AND MAKING SURE THAT I SERVE THE COMMUNITY PROPERLY IN THIS FUNCTION. OKAY, AND YOU WOULD BE COMMITTING, AND I DIDN'T ASK THIS FROM MR. BARKER, BUT YOU'D BE COMMITTING TO THAT NEUTRALITY THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT? I MUST AS A CERTIFIED PUBLIC ACCOUNTANT. OKAY. THERE'S NO OPTION. I HAVE TO BE INDEPENDENT. OKAY, AND YOU'RE WILLING TO TAKE THIS ON AS A PRIMARY? I AM. I TRULY WANT TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY. I WANT TO HONOR MY MOTHER AND FATHER AND THEIR COMMUNITY SERVICE, AND THIS IS JUST I WANT TO CONTINUE THAT FAMILY LEGACY, AND THAT'S WHY I'M HERE TODAY. OKAY, GREAT. THANKS A LOT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. SO ARE YOU GOOD TO RESUME? YES. ALL RIGHT. SO WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE MADE BY KEVIN CRYE EVENTUALLY AND A SECOND BY CORKY HARMON. CAN I JUST CLARIFY THIS TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTOOD THIS? SO IT WOULD BE THE TERM THAT EXPIRES, FORMERLY HELD BY KEN MURRAY, THAT EXPIRES THIS YEAR. WE WOULD BE PUTTING KURT SWANSON INTO THAT. AND THE ONE THAT WOULD BE A 28 EXPIRATION WOULD BE JOSH BARKER. AND THEN WE ALREADY CURRENTLY HAVE A 28 IN SEAT. SO THAT WOULD GO FOR THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS. AND THEN THE 26 EXPIRATION WOULD BE KEN MURRAY. TWENTY-SIX EXPIRATION WOULD BE JOSH LEVINE. WAS KEN MILLER, NOT KEN MURRAY. IS THAT CORRECT? SO I CAN CLARIFY. SO YOU'RE SPEAKING ABOUT THE ALTERNATES? YES. THE ONES THAT WOULD EXPIRE SEPTEMBER 2026 ARE NICK CURLEY AND KEN MURRAY, AND THE TWO THAT WOULD EXPIRE IN SEPTEMBER 2028 WOULD BE JOSH DEVINE AND KEN MILLER. OKAY, SO I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T WRITE THAT DOWN FAST ENOUGH, BUT KEN MURRAY WOULD BE THE 26TH. CORRECT. WHO WOULD BE THE SECOND 26TH? NICK CURLEY. CURLEY. AND THEN WHO WOULD BE THE 28TH? JOSH DEVINE. JOSH DEVINE. AND KEN MILLER. BUT THEY'RE ALL IN THE POOL, SO IT'S NOT, THEY'RE ALL ALTERNATES. YEAH, IT'S JUST TERMS. SO I'M GOOD WITH THAT. MOTION. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. CAN WE HAVE A ROLL CALL VOTE STARTING WITH SUPERVISOR PLUMMER? SUPERVISOR PLUMMER? YES. SUPERVISOR CRYE? YES. SUPERVISOR KALLSTROM? YES. SUPERVISOR HARMON? YES. AND SUPERVISOR LONG? [PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD - OPEN TIME] YES. PASSES 5-0. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU GUYS. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME TO STICK AROUND IF YOU'D LIKE. SO MOVING ON WE'LL GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT. DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS? MS. BLANKENSHIP? YES, CHAIR, WE DO. WE HAVE 27 SPEAKERS. FIRST UP, OLIVER HERNANDEZ. FOLLOWED BY PHIL CARR, THEN DON DUCKETT. BECAUSE WE HAVE MORE THAN 10, SPEAKERS WILL BE LIMITED TO TWO MINUTES. IF I CALLED YOUR NAME, PLEASE GET IN QUEUE. IS OLIVER HERE? NOT SEEING ANYONE. PHIL CARR, COME ON UP. AFTER PHIL IS DON DUCKETT, DAVID HALLIGAN, THEN DELIA, I HOPE I PRONOUNCED THAT CORRECTLY. GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS PHIL CARR. I'M A RESIDENT OF SHASTA COUNTY. I'VE BEEN HERE FOR NINE YEARS. AND I'D LIKE TO BRING UP AN ISSUE AND ALSO TRY TO OFFER A SOLUTION. THE ISSUE IS PEOPLE MOVING ON TO RAW LAND WITH RVS WITH NO PERMITS. NO SEPTIC, NO EXCAVATION PLANS, NO POWER, THINGS LIKE THAT. AND THE ISSUE IS THAT THAT PRESENTS TO THE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY. AND THERE ARE SEVERAL OF THEM, INCLUDING ONE THAT FAMOUSLY SHOWED UP AT MY DOOR IN AUGUST. I'M WORKING WITH THE COUNTY ON THAT. THINGS ARE MOVING FORWARD SLOWLY. SOME OF THE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD ARE AWARE OF IT. BUT WHAT I'D LIKE TO SEE IS ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT CAME UP WAS THE LANDOWNER CLAIMED IGNORANCE OF THE NEED FOR PERMITS. BEING A LICENSED CONTRACTOR, I'M NOT SURE HOW HE WAS IGNORANT OF THOSE REQUIREMENTS. BUT WHEN YOU START LOOKING UP THE REQUIREMENTS FOR OCCUPYING AN RV ON RAW LAND, YOU HAVE TO LOOK AROUND ALL OVER THE DIFFERENT WEBSITES FROM PLANNING TO BUILDING TO THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE TO DIFFERENT THINGS FIRE COMMITMENTS THOSE TYPE [02:20:01] OF ISSUES. WHAT I'D LIKE TO SUGGEST OR POSSIBLY RECOMMEND IS THAT MEMBERS OF THE DIFFERENT DIVISIONS GET TOGETHER AND COME UP WITH THE TOP FIVE OR TEN ISSUES THAT APPEAR WHEN THESE RVS MOVE ON TO RAW LAND. AND PUBLISH THAT NOT ONLY ON YOUR WEBSITE, BUT ALSO INCLUDE IT IN ESCROW AND TITLE DOCUMENTS SO WHEN YOUR CODE ENFORCEMENT COMES OUT WITH AN ISSUE, THEY'VE GOT A SIGNED DOCUMENT THAT SAYS, WE HAVE REVIEWED THIS, THESE WERE THE REQUIREMENTS, AND THIS IS WHAT IS NEEDED TO MOVE YOUR RV AND OCCUPY IT ON RAW LAND. SO JUST TO CLARIFY, SO CURRENTLY YOU CANNOT LIVE ON AN RV UNLESS YOU HAVE AN ACTIVE PERMIT ON THE LAND, ON THE BUILDING SITE. SO YOU CAN LIVE IN AN RV. WHILE YOU'RE BUILDING A HOUSE WHEN YOU HAVE AN ACTIVE PERMIT BUT OTHERWISE THAT'S ILLEGAL AS CODE ENFORCEMENT SO YOU WANT TO CALL CODE ENFORCEMENT WHAT DISTRICT YOU LIVE IN JUST A DISTRICT THREE OKAY AND WE CAN HELP FACILITATE THAT IF YOU WANT TO SHARE OUR MINUTES IT'S THIS WEEK YOU CAN SHOOT HIM AN EMAIL AND WE CAN HELP FACILITATE THAT INTRODUCTION TO SEAN EWING, WHO IS OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT DIRECTOR. YEAH, THAT'S ALREADY IN PROCESS. OKAY. WE'RE ALREADY MOVING FORWARD WITH A COMPLAINT AFTER FOUR MONTHS OF NONCOMPLIANCE. AND THE COUNTY CODE ENFORCEMENT HAS ALREADY BEEN OUT, ISSUED CITATIONS. OKAY. THIS IS JUST IN GENERAL FOR OTHER PEOPLE. I'VE GOT TO CUT YOU OFF BECAUSE THANK YOU. NEXT UP, DON DOCKET, FOLLOWED BY DAVID HALLIGAN, DELIA RODAKE, AND HAL SHAVER. GOOD MORNING, BOARD. I'M GOING TO BE SPEAKING TODAY ABOUT THE NEW RULES REGARDING PUBLIC COMMENTS THAT ARE COMING UP IN JULY. AND, YOU KNOW, I WANT TO START BY SAYING, CHAIR KALLSTROM, YOU'VE DONE A GREAT JOB AS CHAIRMAN. I FEEL LIKE YOU'VE BEEN FAIR AND MORE RESPECTFUL TO THE PUBLIC THAN WE'VE BEEN USED TO. AND, YOU KNOW, I WOULD LIKE YOU TO CONSIDER KEEPING THAT GOODWILL GOING. AND FOR INSTANCE, THE 20 MINUTE CAP ON EACH ITEM, INCLUDING PUBLIC COMMENT. YOU HAVE 27 SPEAKERS HERE TODAY. 17 OF THOSE PEOPLE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO SPEAK TODAY IF YOU HAD A 20 MINUTE CAP. AND MANY OF THESE PEOPLE THAT I'M LOOKING AT IN THIS ROOM TODAY HAVE NEVER BEEN TO A BOARD MEETING AND HAVE TAKEN TIME OUT OF THEIR SCHEDULES TO COME AND INTERACT WITH THEIR LOCAL GOVERNMENT. IF WE THINK BACK TO 2020 WHEN WE CLOSED THE BOARD CHAMBERS AND HOW ANGRY SOME OF YOU WERE, AND THAT WAS A GREAT REASON WHY YOU ALL RAN, BECAUSE YOU WERE FEELING THAT YOUR VOICES WERE BEING MUTED AND YOUR ABILITY TO INTERACT WITH YOUR LOCAL GOVERNMENT WAS BEING SUPPRESSED. THIS IS THE SAME THING. AND THE OTHER ISSUE THAT I REALLY WOULD NOT LIKE TO SEE HAPPEN IS THE CAP ON HOW MANY AGENDA ITEMS WE CAN SPEAK TO AT EACH MEETING. I KNOW THAT THOSE RULES ARE KIND OF BEING PROPOSED FOR ONE OR TWO PEOPLE THAT SPEAK AT THESE MEETINGS, BUT IT'S ALMOST LIKE PUNISHING THE ENTIRE CLASS FOR THE BAD BEHAVIOR OF TWO PEOPLE. SO I WOULD REALLY LIKE YOU TO CONSIDER NOT ADOPTING THOSE TWO ELEMENTS OF THE NEW RULES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT UP, DAVID HALLIGAN, FOLLOWED BY DELIA AND HAL SHAVER. THANK YOU. THE TRUE NORTH BEHAVIORAL HEALTH CAMPUS WAS PROPOSED AS A SOLUTION TO CRITICAL GAPS IN SHASTA COUNTY IN THE MENTAL HEALTH SYSTEM. TWO WEEKS AGO, MR. CRYE STATED ON HIS RADIO SHOW THAT THE COUNTY HAD DODGED A BULLET AFTER THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA DENIED FUNDING FOR THE PROPOSED BEHAVIORAL HEALTH CAMPUS. THE STATE ULTIMATELY DENIED THE $150 MILLION GRANT IN MARCH OF 26, CITING THE PROJECT'S FINANCIAL RISK AND HIGH LEVEL OF POLITICAL COMPLEXITY. AND WE ALSO LOST THE $50 MILLION THAT SIGNATURE HEALTH WAS PUTTING UP. SOME OF THE BENEFITS OF THIS PROPOSAL HAD MOVED FORWARD, LEVERAGING EXTERNAL FUNDING, WHAT I JUST SPOKE ON, $200 MILLION, CREATING JOBS FOR THE BUILD OUT OF THE CAMPUS AND 200 FULL-TIME JOBS, ADDRESSING THE PROVIDER SHORTAGE IN OUR COUNTY, KEEPING CARE LOCAL SO FAMILIES DON'T HAVE TO DRIVE 200, 300 MILES TO GO VISIT THEIR RELATIVES, AND RELIEVING EMERGENCY ROOMS IN JAILS. YES, TELL THAT ONE TO THE TEAMS, THE FIRST RESPONDERS, AND ER ROOMS, MR. CRYE. DESPITE THESE GREAT POSSIBLE BENEFITS TO OUR COUNTY AND CITIZENS, THE BOARD, LED BY MR. CRYE, KELSERMAN, HARMON, IN A SURPRISE 3-2 VOTE, INITIALLY OPPOSED THE PROJECT, BUT THEN STARTED THE MICHAEL JACKSON, KEVIN CRYE IMPROV OF THE BACKSLIDE. YEAH, THE MOONWALK DANCE. DAMAGE CONTROL, MR. CRYE. THE OUT RAGE OF THE MEDICAL COMMUNITY. LOCAL LEADERS AND THE PUBLIC WERE SHOUTING FROM THE ROOFTOPS. [02:25:01] BUT BY THEN IT WAS TOO LATE. THE STATE RECEIVED INFORMATION THAT THIS BOARD OF SUPERVISORS DIDN'T WANT THE PROJECT IN THEIR COUNTY. MR. CRYE, YOUR LACK OF LEADERSHIP AND FAILED SUPPORT WITH THE TRUE NORTH PROJECT WILL GO DOWN. YES, IT'LL GO DOWN IN THE HISTORY BOOKS OF THIS COUNTY AS YOUR BIGGEST DEBACLE AND MISCALCULATION OF YOUR TENURE HERE ON THIS SHASTA COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS. THANK YOU. NEXT UP, DELIA. FOLLOWED BY HAL SHAVER, REBECCA HOWE, THEN SUSAN MCMAINS. IF I CALLED YOUR NAME, PLEASE GET IN QUEUE. HELLO, MY NAME IS DELIA RODICK. I'M AN IN-HOME CARE WORKER AND A PROUD MEMBER OF THE SEIU 2015 UNION IN SHASTA COUNTY. SOMETIMES I WAS PAID WELL FOR MY WORK. AND SOMETIMES NOT PAID MONEY AT ALL, BUT FOOD FROM THE GARDEN, HUGS, SMILES, AND THE GIFT OF HOLDING A HAND WHEN SOMEONE PASSED FROM THIS EARTH. I THINK THE BEST THING WE CAN GIVE OTHERS IS OUR TIME. I ALWAYS FELT RESPECTED, BUT RIGHT NOW I DO NOT FEEL RESPECTED BY YOU. WE WERE OFFERED A 40 CENT RAISE, AND THAT WAS RESCINDED. AND YET YOU GAVE YOURSELF OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS A 59% RAISE. EVALUATING OUR WORK DEVALUES THE PEOPLE WE CARE FOR IN OUR COMMUNITY, AND WE DESERVE MORE THAN THAT. PLEASE SHOW ME AND ALL THE OTHER PEOPLE HERE WHO GIVE THEIR TIME AND CARE SOME RESPECT. GIVE US A RAISE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY, I NEED YOU ALL TO BE SEATED, AND THIS IS YOUR ONE WARNING, SO PLEASE EVERYBODY STAY SEATED. NEXT UP, HAL SHAVER, FOLLOWED BY REBECCA HOWE, SUSAN MCMAIN, THEN FRANCIS DYE. HELLO, MY NAME IS HAL SHOWER. I LIVE HERE IN REDDING. I'M 20 YEARS OLD, AND I'VE BEEN AN IHSS WORKER FOR THREE YEARS. I BECAME AN IHSS WORKER RIGHT AFTER I GRADUATED HIGH SCHOOL TO CARE FOR MY BEST FRIEND WHO I MET IN HIGH SCHOOL. WHO WAS BORN WITH A DISABILITY AND USES A WHEELCHAIR. THIS WORK OPENED ME UP TO MEETING OTHER PEOPLE WHO NEEDED IHSS SERVICES, AND I TOOK ON A SECOND CLIENT. UNFORTUNATELY, I QUIT THAT JOB IN NOVEMBER, BUT I'D LIKE TO TELL YOU ABOUT HIM AND MY WORK. THIS GENTLEMAN WHO I CARED FOR BECAME DISABLED IN HIS 50S DUE TO A HEAD-ON COLLISION WHILE DRIVING TO HIS DAY JOB IN CHICO. HE BROKE 37 BONES IN HIS BODY. HIS ENTIRE LOWER BODY WAS SHATTERED. HE WAS PUT IN A MEDICALLY-INDUCED COMA FOR A MONTH WHILE THEY RECONSTRUCTED HIM. BECAUSE OF THIS, HE REQUIRED A LOT OF CARE SERVICES, LIKE COOKING, CLEANING, GETTING OUT OF BED, USING THE BATHROOM, CLEANING HIS WOUNDS, AND MORE. THINGS I WAS NEVER TRAINED FOR AT 17 YEARS OLD. BUT HE HAD NO FAMILY HERE, AND I BECAME THE ONLY PERSON AROUND TO HELP HIM. BUT THE EXTENT OF HIS CARE NEEDS WAS NEVER THE ISSUE FOR ME. IT WAS MY WORKING CONDITIONS. HE HAD TO MOVE TO LOW-INCOME HOUSING COMPLEX JUST HERE ON MAGNOLIA. THE BUILDING HAS SEVERAL HEALTH AND SAFETY HAZARDS INCLUDING MOLD, ROACH, AND BED BUG INFESTATIONS AND FLOODING. NO HUMAN SHOULD EVER HAVE TO LIVE IN THESE CONDITIONS, AND NO HUMAN SHOULD HAVE TO WORK IN THEM EITHER, ESPECIALLY FOR AN UNLIVABLE WAGE. BUT I SHOWED UP BECAUSE HE NEEDED ME, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT IHSS WORKERS DO. I QUIT BECAUSE I CAN'T LIVE ON $18.50 AN HOUR. I HAD TO GET A DIFFERENT SECOND JOB THAT PAYS MORE. MOST PEOPLE QUIT BECAUSE $18.50 AN HOUR IS NOT ENOUGH INCENTIVE TO WORK IN THOSE CONDITIONS. DISABLED PEOPLE SUFFER. PEOPLE HERE SUFFER, PEOPLE LIVING THREE STREETS OVER SUFFER, BECAUSE YOU GUYS PAY US ONLY $18.50 AN HOUR. THANK YOU. REBECCA HOWE, FOLLOWED BY SUSAN MCMAIN, FRANCIS DYE, THEN MATTHEW YOUNG. REBECCA, COME ON UP. HI, MY NAME IS REBECCA HOWE. I'VE BEEN AN IHS CARE PROVIDER FOR OVER FIVE YEARS. I'M ON THE BARGAINING TEAM FOR OUR UNION AND ADVOCATE FOR THE ELDERLY. AND THE DISABLED. I'M EXTREMELY DISAPPOINTED WITH THIS BOARD'S DECISION TO RESCIND ON YOUR OFFER THAT YOU YOURSELVES PUT OUT THERE, ONLY TO GIVE YOURSELVES A RAISE AFTER JUST RECEIVING ONE EIGHT MONTHS PRIOR. I DON'T BELIEVE THAT CONSTITUTES FAIR BARGAINING AT ALL. I HAVE BEEN UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS WERE SUPPOSED TO CONSIDER WHAT THEIR CONSTITUENTS HAD ELECTED THEM TO DO. I BELIEVE THAT OUR ELDERLY ARE PART OF THOSE. WHO ELECTED AND BELIEVED THAT YOUR DECISIONS WERE GOING TO BE IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THEM AND THIS COUNTY. NOT GIVING THE PROVIDERS A DECENT WAGE TO BE ABLE TO SURVIVE WITHOUT BECOMING HOMELESS OR EVEN ABLE TO PAY FOR A TANK OF GAS. WE CAN'T DO IT. [02:30:01] IT'S GOING TO COST THE COUNTY MORE TO HOUSE PEOPLE OR THE ELDERLY IN CARE FACILITIES THAN WHAT YOU ARE PAYING. RIGHT NOW OR COULD GIVE US A RAISE FOR. SIMPLY PUT, I CAN'T EVEN GO TO MCDONALD'S AND BUY MYSELF LUNCH UNLESS I WORK FOR THEM COMPARED TO WHAT YOU GUYS ARE PAYING US. AS CAREGIVERS, WE DON'T HAVE MEDICAL BENEFITS, DENTAL BENEFITS. WE DON'T HAVE A GAS CARD TO GO AND GET FUEL IN OUR TANKS TO GO CARE FOR THE ELDERLY. IT'S TIME. TO HAVE A FAIR BARGAIN ON THE TABLE AND NOT TAKE IT BACK. THANK YOU. SUSAN MCMAIN, FOLLOWED BY FRANCES DYE, MATTHEW YOUNG, THEN LETICIA GUERRERO. HELLO, MY NAME IS SUSAN MCMAINS AND I'M HERE TODAY TO SPEAK ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF IN-HOME SUPPORTIVE SERVICES OR IHSS. IHSS IS A LONG-TERM. IN-HOME CARE PROGRAM DESIGNED TO ALLOW YOUR CONSTITUENTS TO REMAIN IN THEIR HOMES AND LIVE THEIR LIFE ON THEIR TERMS WHERE THEY FEEL SAFE AND TRULY CARED FOR. SHASTA COUNTY'S HEALTH CRISIS IS IMPACTING THE QUALITY OF CARE OUR NEIGHBORS RECEIVE IN HOSPITALS AND NURSING HOMES. IHSS CARE PROVIDERS MAKE IT POSSIBLE FOR OUR RECIPIENTS TO STAY OUT OF COSTLY FACILITIES AND REMAIN IN THEIR HOMES WITH THEIR FAMILIES. WHERE HOME CARE ISN'T AN OPTION, FAMILIES HAVE TO FACE THE HARD REALITY OF MOVING THEIR LOVED ONE INTO A HOME CARE OR CARE HOME. RIGHT NOW, MY FAMILY IS GOING THROUGH EXACTLY THAT. MY FATHER IS EXPERIENCING A DECLINE IN HEALTH AND MOBILITY BECAUSE HE DIDN'T RECEIVE THE CARE HE NEEDED WHEN HE WAS RECENTLY IN THE EMERGENCY ROOM. NOW, MY 84-YEAR-OLD MOTHER IS GRAPPLING WITH THE HEARTBREAKING CHOICE OF POTENTIALLY MOVING HIM INTO A NURSING HOME. THE MOST LOVE AND CARE THAT A PERSON CAN RECEIVE WILL ALWAYS BE AT HOME IN THEIR COMMUNITY, SURROUNDED BY THEIR SUPPORT SYSTEM. BUT WITHOUT IHSS WORKERS TO PROVIDE THAT CARE, MORE AND MORE FAMILIES WILL BE FORCED INTO SITUATIONS LIKE MINE WHERE WE HAVE TO PART WITH A LOVED ONE AND MOVE THEM INTO A LONG CARE FACILITY. THIS IS THE REALITY WE'RE HEADED TOWARD IF IHSS WORKERS CONTINUE TO BE UNDERPAID. THIS ISN'T A JOB. THIS ISN'T A JOB. IT TAKES A PERSON WITH A HUGE HEART TO REMAIN IN A POSITION WITH ZERO OPTION FOR ADVANCEMENT. UNDERPAID, NO 401K, NO VISION, NO DENTAL, NO MEDICAL, NO PAID VACATION DAYS. AND WE HAD TO FIGHT TOOTH AND NAIL TO GET PAID SICK LEAVE. I KNOW NONE OF YOU WOULD DO THIS JOB. IT'S TIME YOU PAY THE PEOPLE WHO DO IT FOR YOUR CONSTITUENTS EVERY DAY. FRANCIS DYE FRANCIS, COME ON UP, FOLLOWED BY MATTHEW YOUNG, LETICIA GUERRERO, THEN RICK MATTSON. GOOD MORNING. I KNOW YOU'VE SEEN ME HERE BEFORE. MY NAME IS FRANCIS DYE. I LIVE IN SHINGLETOWN. I AM AN IHSS WORKER, AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW WHO DOESN'T KNOW WHAT IHSS WORKERS DO. WE'RE NOT BABYSITTERS. WE DON'T JUST GO TO THE HOME AND BABYSIT THEM. THAT'S NOT WHAT WE DO. WE HAVE TO TAKE OUR CLIENTS TO THE DOCTOR. WE HAVE TO GO PICK UP THE PRESCRIPTIONS, COME BACK HOME, DO THEIR MEDICINE BOX, MAKE SURE THEY TAKE THEIR MEDICINES. WE HAVE TO COOK FOR THEM. WE HAVE TO VACUUM THEIR HOUSE, SWEEP THEM OFF THE KITCHEN, DISINFECT WITH ALL OUR WIPEYS, DISINFECT EVERYTHING IN THEIR HOUSE SO THAT THEY CAN STAY SAFE IN THEIR OWN HOUSE. WE HAVE TO GIVE THEM SHOWERS. AND SOME PEOPLE THAT ARE PARALYZED, WE HAVE TO UNDRESS THEM IN BED, PUT THEM IN A HORROR LIFT, TAKE THEM TO THE BATHROOM, PUT THEM ON THE SHOWER CHAIR, TAKE THEM TO THE SHOWER, BRING THEM BACK OUT IN THE HORROR LIFT, TAKE THEM BACK IN THE BED, AND THEN GET THEM DRESSED. THAT'S NOT EASY. IT'S NOT EASY AT ALL. BECAUSE THEN WE HAVE TO GO HOME AND TAKE CARE OF OUR FAMILY. BUT THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO DO FOR OUR CLIENTS. AND THEN WE HAVE TO COOK FOR THEM. AND WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY EAT. WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THEY TAKE THEIR MEDICINES ON TIME AND THEY DRINK THE WATER. I'VE HAD TO GO WITH MY CLIENT TO THE SPECIALIST FOR SKIN GRAFTS AND SIT THERE AND WATCH WHILE THEY SCRAPE OFF THE BAD STUFF UNTIL IT BLEEDS, AND YOU'RE SITTING THERE WATCHING YOUR CLIENT CRYE BECAUSE THE PAIN IS SO SEVERE, AND THEN THEY PUT A SKIN GRAFT ON IT AND THEN THEY WRAP IT. AND THEN WHEN WE WERE AT HOME, I HAD TO UNWRAP AND WRAP HIS LEG BACK UP BECAUSE ALL THE SKIN WAS FALLING OFF. IT WAS HORRIBLE. NOT VERY MANY PEOPLE WOULD DO IT. I MEAN, I WISH THAT ALL OF YOU UP THERE. COULD ACTUALLY COME AND SEE JUST ONE DAY WHAT WE HAVE TO DO. IT'S NOT FUN. IT'S NOT EASY, BUT WE HAVE TO SHOW COMPASSION. WE HAVE TO SHOW FEELING, AND WE HAVE TO BE HERE FOR THIS PERSON. I COULDN'T BRING MY MOM HOME FROM THE HOSPITAL WHEN SHE HAD A STROKE BECAUSE SHE WAS PARALYZED, SO I HAD TO PUT HER IN A HOME. IT COSTS $36,000 A MONTH [02:35:02] TO HAVE HER THERE. IT WOULD NOT COST IHSS THAT MUCH. NEXT UP, MATTHEW YOUNG. YEAH, LAUNDRY IS A BIG ONE. GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS MATTHEW YOUNG. I AM WITH THE CHEU, OR CAREGIVERS AND EMPLOYEES UNION, ALONG WITH CNA, CALIFORNIA NURSES ASSOCIATION. I'M HERE TO HELP SUPPORT MY FELLOW BROTHERS AND SISTERS IN ANOTHER UNION. AS CHEU AND CNA MOVES FORWARD CLOSE TO 2,000 EMPLOYEES IN THE AREA, WE ARE HERE TO HELP SHOW THE SUPPORT AND FAIR CONTRACTS. WE UNDERSTAND THE NECESSITY OF FAIR CONTRACTS WITH PEOPLE. WE ARE DEALING WITH IT AT SHASTA REGIONAL. AS WE SHOW OUR SUPPORT FOR FAIR CONTRACTS, AS WE KNOW THAT CAREGIVERS ARE THE GATEWAY TO THE MIDDLE CLASS, AND WE ALL KNOW HOW IMPORTANT OUR WORK IS TO OUR FAMILY MEMBERS AND OUR COMMUNITY IS. OUR WORK IS TO CARE FOR OUR MEMBERS OF THIS AMAZING COMMUNITY AS WE AS I HAVE BEEN IN THE FIRE SERVICE FOR SHASTA COUNTY FIRE AS WELL, MY FATHER WORKED AS THE FIRE CHIEF OUT OF KESWICK, WORKED WITH THE BOARD SUPERVISORS AND INCREASING WAGES FOR THOSE PEOPLE THAT RELY ON PUBLIC SERVICE. I UNDERSTAND HOW IMPORTANT THE STRENGTH IS IN OUR COMMUNITY AS THERE HAS BEEN A DELEGATE OF IMPASSE AND A 0% INCREASE WAGES IS VERY DISTURBING GIVEN THIS ECONOMIC ENVIRONMENT. AS EVERYTHING IS INCREASING, AS IN HOUSING AND FOOD COSTS ARE JUST THE TWO BIGGEST EXAMPLES. WE ARE ASKING FOR A FAIR AND JUST CONTRACT FOR ALL THOSE IN OPEN NEGOTIATIONS, AS WE AS CAREGIVERS ARE A HUGE PART OF CARING AND RECOVERY OF OUR PATIENTS AND OUR COMMUNITY. THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO MOVING FORWARD WITH ALL CONTRACTS. THANK YOU. LETICIA GUERRERO, RICK MATTSON, GREG BAKER, FOLLOWED BY MARGARET HANSEN. IF I CALLED YOUR NAME, PLEASE GET IN QUEUE. LETICIA GUERRERO HERE, CHIEF NEGOTIATOR FOR SHASTA COUNTY IN-HOME SUPPORT SERVICE WORKERS, REPRESENTED BY SEIU 2015. SINCE WE STARTED BARGAINING MORE THAN A YEAR AGO, OUR UNION HAS MADE COUNTLESS GOOD-FAITH ATTEMPTS TO SECURE A UNION CONTRACT THAT MEETS THE NEEDS OF SHASTA CAREGIVERS. IN DECEMBER 2024, WE STARTED WITH A MODEST PROPOSAL, A $2 AN HOUR WAGE INCREASE, AND IN JANUARY WE REJECTED IT WITH A COUNTER. WITH NO COUNTER. IN FEBRUARY, WE PROPOSED BREAKING UP THE $2 INCREASE OVER THREE YEARS. YOU CAME BACK WITH 40 CENTS OVER TWO YEARS. SO WE LOWERED OUR PROPOSAL TO $1.85. IN MARCH, YOU REJECTED THAT AND REPEATED THE SAME 40 CENT OFFER MULTIPLE TIMES. SO IN AN ACT OF GOOD FAITH, WE CONTINUE TO REDUCE OUR PROPOSALS. YOU CONTINUE TO REJECT EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM. 40 CENTS OVER TWO YEARS WAS YOUR LAST BEST AND FINAL OFFER. OUR MEMBERS KNEW THAT A 40 CENT INCREASE WOULDN'T COME CLOSE TO ADDRESSING SHASTA COUNTY'S HEALTH CARE CRISIS. AND THE IHSS WORKER SHORTAGE. WE KEPT OFFERING COMPROMISES THAT WOULD HELP US REACH A DEAL. THEN AFTER FIVE MONTHS OF REAFFIRMING YOUR OFFER FOR 40 CENTS OVER TWO YEARS, YOU RESCINDED YOUR PROPOSAL ON DECEMBER 19TH, 2025, JUST SIX DAYS BEFORE CHRISTMAS, RESULTING IN THE COUNTY OFFERING NO WAGE INCREASE FOR SHASTA'S ESSENTIAL IHSS WORKERS. WHILE YOU ATTEMPTED TO JUSTIFY THIS DECISION BY CLAIMING A CHANGE IN THE FINANCIAL SITUATION OF THE COUNTY, THE CHANGES YOU REFERRED TO WERE TRUE IN JULY AND AUGUST WHEN YOU MAINTAINED YOUR 40 OFFER. YOU HAVE FAILED TO OFFER A VALID EXPLANATION FOR CHANGES SINCE THEN. YOUR ACTIONS AT THE BARGAINING TABLE ARE A VIOLATION OF STATE LAW, AND WE WILL NOT STAND BY AND CONTINUE TO ALLOW YOU TO DEVALUE SHASTA IHSS WORKFORCE AND HAVE A BLIND EYE TO THE HEALTH CARE CRISIS. THEREFORE, WE HAVE DECLARED AN IMPASSE IN NEGOTIATIONS AND ARE TAKING LEGAL ACTIONS BY FILING AN UNFAIR PRACTICE CHARGE WITH CALIFORNIA'S PUBLIC EMPLOYMENT RELATIONS BOARD. OUR MEMBERS AND HUNDREDS OF SHASTA COUNTY RESIDENTS WILL CONTINUE TO SUPPORT US AND SHOW UP AND ESCALATE OUR ACTIONS UNTIL THIS BOARD FOLLOWS THROUGH WITH THE LAW AND BARGAINS WITH US IN GOOD FAITH AND DELIVERS AN IHSS UNION CONTRACT THAT MEETS THE NEEDS OF OUR COUNTY. I HEARD CRYE USE THE WORD INVEST. WHERE'S THE INVESTMENT IN THANK YOU. RICK MADSEN. [02:40:17] OKAY, CHAIR, THE NEXT TWO INDIVIDUALS, RICK MATTSON AND GREG BAKER, BOTH WANT TO SPEAK TO R5, SO I'M GOING TO SEND THEM OUT TO THE FOYER TO SUBMIT SPEAKER REQUEST CARDS FOR THAT ITEM SPECIFICALLY. NEXT UP. A RAISE SOUNDS GOOD FOR THEM, THOUGH. NEXT UP, MARGARET HANSON, FOLLOWED BY CHRISTIAN, STEVE KAHN, THEN ROBERT. IF I CALLED YOUR NAME, PLEASE GET IN QUEUE. COME ON UP, MARGARET. I DON'T KNOW HOW TO FOLLOW THAT. I JUST WANTED TO THANK. CHAIRMAN KALLSTROM FOR THE CARE AND CONCERN THAT HE SHOWED FOR MY FAMILY AND MY MOTHER. HE SHOWED UP TO HER 105TH BIRTHDAY PARTY, AND SHE WAS WALKING BESIDE HIM GOING, HOW TALL ARE YOU? I JUST LOVE THAT. AND THEN YOU CAME TO OUR MEMORIAL SERVICE, AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. BUT I ALSO HAVE TO TELL YOU, I WISH THAT THEY DIDN'T LEAVE, AND I WISH THEY WEREN'T SO LOUD BECAUSE MY MOTHER HAD AN IHSS WORKER FOR 13 YEARS, AND NOW SHE DOESN'T HAVE A JOB, BUT OKAY. WORTH EVERY PENNY, I MIGHT ADD. SO IN GOOD FAITH, I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO NOT GIVE THEM EXACTLY WHAT THEY WANT, BUT GIVE THEM A CHANCE TO AT LEAST MAKE AS MUCH AS MCDONALD'S DOES. THANK YOU. I WASN'T GOING TO SAY ANYTHING, BUT I HEAR THE IMPASSIONED PLEAS. I'VE WORKED WITH PEOPLE IN MY JOB WHO HAVE IHS WORKERS BECAUSE THEY ARE PARALYZED, AND IT IS A HARD, HARD JOB TO DO. SO I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO NEGOTIATE IN GOOD FAITH FOR THEM, BUT AT LEAST AS MUCH AS MCDONALD'S MAKES BECAUSE I DIDN'T THINK THAT WAS FAIR. THAT THEY GET FAST FOOD GETS $20 AN HOUR AND THESE PEOPLE DON'T. BUT MY MOTHER HAD EXCELLENT CARE AND SHE COULD STAY IN HER HOME. SHE STAYED THERE UNTIL SHE WAS 105. SO SHE WAS ABLE TO DO THAT BECAUSE OF THAT WORKER. SO I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU GUYS AND, YOU KNOW, THINK ABOUT IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MARGARET. NEXT UP, CHRISTIAN, FOLLOWED BY STEVE KAHN, ROBERT, THEN GARY BUNDY. WELL, THIS IS WHERE OUR MONEY GOES TO DATE, SHASTA COUNTY TAXPAYERS HAVE HAD TO SHELL OUT ABOUT AT LEAST $107,000, POTENTIALLY REACHING A TOTAL OF $200,000, MAYBE EVEN $400,000, TO DEFEND AGAINST MULTIPLE FILINGS, APPEALS, AND LITIGATION BY LAURA HOBBS. THIS IS A CPRA REQUEST. I'M ASKING FOR A DETAILED ACCOUNT. UP TO DATE ON THAT. I APPRECIATE THE BOARD DENIED MR. CURTIS'S DEMAND TO DEFEND AGAINST MEASURE B. THAT WAS A SMART MOVE, VERY SMART. ANOTHER CPRA, REGISTER OF VOTERS, CLINT CURTIS, ASKED THE BOARD TO GIVE MONEY, AS WE ALL KNOW, TO DEFEND MEASURE B. AGAINST THE KATSKE V. SHASTA COUNTY CASE THAT'S GOING TO BE HEARD ON TOMORROW. AND MR. CURTIS MENTIONED THAT HE WOULD BRING IN MR. PETER TEKIN FOR THE COST OF $25,000 TO DEFEND THE CASE. THIS IS A CPRA REQUEST, AND I'M GIVING IT TO THE BOARD BECAUSE I KNOW I WON'T GET IT FROM MR. CURTIS. THIS IS A REQUEST ASKING THAT ALL COMMUNICATIONS BETWEEN TICKEN AND CURTIS BE DISCLOSED. FINALLY, ON THE INITIATIVE FOR THE TREATMENT FACILITY FOR YOUTH, LICENSING IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA ARE GOING TO GO THROUGH THIS WITH A FINE-TOOTH COMB. THERE ARE A LOT OF PROBLEMS AHEAD THAT, AS PRESENTED, IT WOULD FAIL. THANK YOU. NEXT UP, STEVE KAHN, FOLLOWED BY ROBERT, THEN GARY BUNDY, THEN LARRY S. MORNING AGAIN, BOARD. I JUST NOTICED THAT BRENT TURNER IS OVER THERE IN THE MEDIA AREA, AND I'M NOT [02:45:01] SURE THAT'S APPROPRIATE. I DON'T KNOW WHETHER HE'S INTIMIDATING OR OBSERVING, BUT NOT PROBABLY APPROPRIATE. CHAIR KALLSTROM. YOU'VE CONTINUED WITH CRYE'S LIMITATIONS ON PUBLIC COMMENT, WHICH KIND OF GO AGAINST WHAT YOU DID WHEN YOU RAN. I MEAN, YOU GUYS WERE SUPPOSEDLY FOR OPENNESS AND TRANSPARENCY AND FOR LISTENING TO THE PUBLIC. BUT YOU'VE CONTINUED WITH HIS RESTRICTION TO THE TWO-MINUTE SITUATION IN MOST CASES AND THEN COMBINING THE CONSENT CALENDAR WITH THE REGULAR CALENDAR ITEMS. IT'S SOME OF THE MOST RESTRICTIVE PUBLIC COMMENT SITUATIONS OF ANY COUNTY IN THE STATE, AND WHEN YOU IMPLEMENT YOUR ADDITIONAL POLICIES IN JULY, I BELIEVE THEY WILL BE THE MOST RESTRICTIVE. NOW, WHEN IT COMES TO THE LIMITATION OF FOUR ITEMS PER SPEAKER, I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE LEGALLY CHALLENGED, AND I THINK THAT YOUR STAFF ADVICE ON THAT WAS POOR BECAUSE HE STATED HE THOUGHT THAT MAYBE THERE WAS ANOTHER COUNTY DOING IT, AND I THINK HE'S IN ERROR. OR, IF THEY ARE DOING IT, IT'S THE FIRST TIME IN CALIFORNIA HISTORY. SO THERE'S GOING TO BE PROBLEMS WITH THAT, AND IF YOU WANT TO LIMIT TO 20 MINUTES IN ORDER TO EXPEDITE THE MEETING, I BELIEVE YOU NEED TO CALL THOSE PEOPLE BACK AT THE END OF THE MEETING SO THAT THEY CAN BE HEARD FROM. THIS IS ALL OCCURRING IN A SITUATION WHERE YOU GUYS HAVE GIVEN YOURSELF A 59% RAISE, AND YOU'VE REDUCED THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT YOU ACTUALLY WORK. YOU KNOW, WE ONLY HAVE TWO BOARD MEETINGS PER MONTH NOW, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF JUNE, AND YOU'VE ELIMINATED NIGHTTIME MEETINGS. SO YOU GUYS AND STAFF ARE SPENDING LESS TIME, AND YET YOU'RE REDUCING OUR AMOUNT OF PUBLIC SPEAKING THEORETICALLY. NEXT UP, ROBERT. IS ROBERT HERE? NOT SEEING ROBERT. GARY BUNDY. IS GARY HERE? NOT SEEING GARY. LARRY S. LARRY, COME ON UP. AFTER LARRY, WE HAVE DOLORES LUCERO. MICHELLE GAITHERY, AND ALLISON GIBBONS. IF I CALLED YOUR NAME, PLEASE GET IN QUEUE. MORNING, BOARD. IT'S REALLY AMAZING TO ME THAT I FIND MYSELF SHOCKED WHEN SOMEBODY DOESN'T GET UP HERE AND WHINE AND CRYE ABOUT HOW BAD OUR ELECTION SYSTEM IS IN SHASTA COUNTY. AND THAT ALL OF THESE SYSTEMS NEED TO BE REWORKED AND REVAMPED AND RETOOLED, AND WE HAD TO GET RID OF DIFFERENT ELECTION OFFICIALS IN ORDER TO GET THE ONE WE WANT TO MAKE THE CHANGES WE WANT. BUT I WANT TO START WITH THE BIG PICTURE HERE, AND I WANT TO DRAW UPON HERITAGE FOUNDATION'S ANALYSIS OF ELECTIONS. AND THIS TAKES IN MILLIONS AND MILLIONS, TENS UPON TENS OF MILLIONS. OF VOTES OVER THE LAST DECADE FOR EXAMPLE IN ARIZONA TWENTY FIVE YEARS WORTH OF ELECTIONS WERE ANALYZED THIRTY SIX CASES OF POTENTIAL FRAUD WERE UNCOVERED GEORGIA TWENTY SEVEN YEARS OF ELECTIONS THIRTY FOUR CASES MICHIGAN SEVENTEEN YEARS TWENTY SIX CASES NEVADA, 14 YEARS, 14 CASES. NORTH CAROLINA, 38 YEARS, 39 CASES. PENNSYLVANIA, 30 YEARS, 32 CASES. WISCONSIN, 20 YEARS AND 28 CASES. NOT VERY MANY CASES OF VOTER FRAUD OUT OF MILLIONS AND MILLIONS CAST. HOW DOES THAT BOIL DOWN TO SHASTA COUNTY? VERY SIMPLY, AND I LOOK AT IT THIS WAY. AFTER ALL THE WHINING AND COMPLAINING, NOT ONE PERSON, EITHER HERE OR IN THE COURTS, HAS SHOWN WHERE ONE VOTE THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN COUNTED WAS NOT COUNTED, AND ONE VOTE THAT SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN COUNTED. NEXT UP, DOLORES LUCERO, FOLLOWED BY MICHELLE GAITHERY, ALLISON GIVENS, THEN JENNY. IF I CALLED YOUR NAME, PLEASE GET IN QUEUE. YOU GUYS START THE DAMN CLOCK BEFORE I GET UP HERE. I HAVE HERE, I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU GUYS A COPY OF HOW MANY SIGNATURES WE GATHER. WITHIN NINE DAYS, 488 AN HOUR AGO, IT WAS ACTUALLY 500 SIGNATURES WE GATHER. FOR YOU GUYS, BOARD OF SUPERVISORS WHO APPOINTED THE DAMN DEMOCRATS AND ACTUALLY APPOINTED CLINT CURTIS. [02:50:01] TO THE ELECTION DEPARTMENT. AND YOUR DUTY, YOUR JOB IS TO TAKE ACTION TO PUT HIM IN THE ADMINISTRATION LEAVE. SO I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU A COPY BECAUSE I SUBMITTED A COPY UPSTAIRS. THEY WOULDN'T GIVE ME A COPY STAMPED, BUT FOR THE RECORD, I WANT THE CAMERAS TO SEE THIS, THAT I'M GIVING YOU GUYS A COPY, THAT IT IS ACTUALLY FOR YOU GUYS TO UNDERSTAND YOU ARE LIABLE FOR NOT TAKING ACTION TO REMOVE CLINT CURTIS. AND THE REASON I'M SAYING THIS IS BECAUSE YOU APPOINTED HIM. HE'S APPOINTED, NOT ELECTED BY THE PEOPLE. SO, THEREFORE, YOUR DUTY AND YOUR JOB IS TO REMOVE HIM RIGHT NOW. IF YOU DON'T, I'M TELLING YOU RIGHT NOW THAT YOU ARE UNDER INVESTIGATION, WITHOUT A DOUBT, BY THE SECRETARY OF STATE. AND ON MARCH 8TH, THIS IS WHAT I GAVE THE SECRETARY OF STATE IN THE OPENING INVESTIGATION. AND I'M TELLING YOU RIGHT NOW THAT YOU ARE GOING TO BE ACCOUNTABLE REGARDLESS IF YOU VOTE OR YOU DON'T DO NOTHING BECAUSE YOU PUT HIM THERE. SO. JUST SO YOU KNOW THAT, NINE AGENCIES I GAVE THE COMPLAINT TO, AND THEY ACTUALLY TOOK THE COMPLAINT AND THEY OPENED AN INVESTIGATION. THEREFORE, YOU ARE LIABLE, SO YOU CONTINUE TO IGNORE, AND YOU SAY YOU WANTED TRANSPARENCY. THE WORST GUY YOU PUT IN THE ELECTION, CLINT CURTIS AND MR. TURNER, WHO'S HARDLY EVER THERE AT WORK, AND HE'S TAKING TAXPAYERS' MONEY, AND YOU WANTED TRANSPARENCY? THEY COMMITTED AN ELECTION FRAUD ALREADY. WHAT IS IT GOING TO TAKE TO REMOVE THEM? THANK YOU. NEXT UP, MICHELLE GAITHERY, FOLLOWED BY ALLISON GIVENS, JENNY, THEN CHRIS BAGLEY. IS MICHELLE HERE? NOT SEEING MICHELLE. ALLISON? NOT SEEING ALLISON. JENNY, COME ON UP. AFTER JENNY, CHRIS BAGLEY, BRENT TURNER, HERMAN SNELL. TODAY I SPEAK FOR SOMEBODY ELSE. IT'S NOT MY LETTER, AND IT'S ON C1. DEAR MEMBERS OF SHASTA COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND SHASTA COUNTY HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES, I AM WRITING TO EXPRESS MY CONCERN REGARDING THE POTENTIAL APPOINTMENT OF ARTHUR GORMAN TO SHASTA COUNTY HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES ADVISORY BOARD, DISTRICT 3. AS A PRACTICING PHYSICIAN IN SHASTA COUNTY, I BELIEVE MEMBERS OF THE HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES ADVISORY BOARD MUST BE COMMITTED TO EVIDENCE-BASED PUBLIC POLICY. MR. GORMAN'S POSTS ON FACEBOOK ARE FILLED WITH MISINFORMATION INFORMATION. ABOUT HEALTH AND PUBLIC POLICY ESPECIALLY VACCINATION FOR CHILDREN VACCINATION IS ONE OF THE MOST THOROUGHLY STUDIED AND EFFECTIVE PUBLIC HEALTH INTERVENTIONS IN MODERN MEDICINE VACCINATION HAS RESULTED IN SUBSTANTIAL REDUCTIONS IN VACCINE PREVENTABLE DISEASES AND ASSOCIATE ASSOCIATED MOBILITY AND MORTALITY IN BOTH CHILDREN AND ADULTS PUBLIC TRUST IN THE SAFETY AND EFFICIENCY AND EFFICACY OF VACCINES IS A CORNERSTONE OF SUCCESSFUL IMMUNIZATION PROGRAMS AND MAINTAINING THAT TRUST REQUIRES LEADERSHIP THAT SUPPORTS TRANSPARENT EVIDENCE-BASED HEALTH POLICIES. OPPOSITION TO ROUTINE CHILDHOOD VACCINATION WHEN NOT GROUNDED IN CREDIBLE SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE RISKS UNDERMINING COMMUNITY HEALTH. DELAYING OR REFUSING RECOMMENDED VACCINES INCREASES THE PERIOD DURING WHICH CHILDREN REMAIN SUSCEPTIBLE TO PREVENTABLE DISEASES, INCREASING RISK TO BROADER COMMUNITY. ADVISORY BOARD MEMBERS PLAYING IMPORTANT ROLE IN SHAPING POLICY GUIDANCE AND INFLUENCE PUBLIC PERCEPTION INDIAN INDIVIDUAL SUCH AS AUTHOR GORMAN PROMOTE PUT POSITIONS CONTRARY TO ESTABLISH SCIENTIFIC CONSENSUS ON VACCINE SAFETY AND EFFECTIVENESS MAY ENDED IT INADVERTENTLY CONTRIBUTE TO DECREASED VACCINE UPTAKE INCREASED OUTBREAKS AND PREVENTABLE HARM AS EVIDENCED BY HIGH RATE OF MEASLES IN AND OUR BELOVED SHASTA COUNTY COMMUNITY. FOR THOSE REASONS, I RESPECTFULLY URGE THE BOARD NOT TO CONSIDER MR. GORMAN AS A FUTURE MEMBER OF THE HHSA ADVISORY BOARD. HIS PUBLIC NEXT UP, CHRIS BAGLEY, FOLLOWED BY BRENT TURNER, HERMAN SNELL, THEN NICK GARDNER. IF I CALLED YOUR NAME, PLEASE GET IN QUEUE. ARE YOU CHRIS? NO, I DON'T SEE MS. BAGLEY HERE. CHRIS IS NOT HERE. BRENT TURNER, COME ON UP, FOLLOWED BY HERMAN SNELL, THEN NICK GARDNER. AGAIN, IF I CALLED YOUR NAME, PLEASE GET IN QUEUE. SO YOU'RE UP, SIR. HELLO SUPERVISORS, BRENT TURNER THE ASSISTANT REGISTRAR FOR SHASTA COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF ELECTIONS. JUST WANTED TO CHECK IN WITH YOU AND SAY HELLO. WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH OUR ELECTION PREPARATIONS FOR THE UPCOMING ELECTION FIRST ONE JUNE 2ND AND HOPING THAT WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE WITH YOU AND APPARENTLY THE MEDIA HAS BEEN GIVING US SOME ATTENTION. WE THINK THAT THE CURRENT SYSTEMS ARE CERTAINLY ROBUST ENOUGH TO GET US THROUGH THESE SERIES [02:55:01] OF ELECTIONS COMING UP. AND THE STAFF MORALE SEEMS GOOD IN THE DEPARTMENTS. AND WE EXPECT THE SAME SORT OF POSITIVE RESULTS THAT WE DID LAST TIME. IF ANY OF THE PUBLIC IS CONCERNED ABOUT ANY PIECE OF THE ELECTION, WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY KNOW. THEY'RE INVITED TO COME DOWN, TAKE A LOOK AT THE SYSTEMS, WE'LL GIVE THEM A TOUR. AND THEY CAN ASK ANY QUESTIONS IN REAL TIME. EVERYTHING IS COMPLETELY TRANSPARENT, AND WE'VE HAD A LOT OF COUNTIES COME NOW AND VISIT OUR COUNTY AND RECOGNIZE IT AS A GOOD MODEL FOR ELECTIONS. SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY HELLO TO YOU, AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. NEXT UP, HERMAN SNELL, FOLLOWED BY NICK GARDNER. MY NAME IS HERMAN SNELL. I WORKED FOR 30 YEARS AS AN RN AT MERCY MEDICAL CENTER, ALMOST ALL OF IT IN THE ICU. DURING COVID, REGISTERED NURSE MR. GORMAN PUBLICLY AND PROUDLY ORGANIZED MEETINGS DURING WHICH HE STATED THAT HE WAS AGAINST MASKING AND AGAINST VACCINATIONS. ALL THE WHILE, HE WAS FOLLOWING THE REAL EXPERT'S ADVICE, THE DOCTORS, WHILE TREATING COVID AND COVID-RELATED INJURED PATIENTS IN THE HOSPITAL. ALL OF THE ICU DOCTORS, ALL OF THE PULMONOLOGISTS, ALL OF THE INFECTION CONTROL DOCTORS, AND ALL OF THE ICU DOCTORS DID FOLLOW OUR COVID PROTOCOLS, WITH MANY OF THEM BEING FIRST IN LINE TO GET VACCINATED. AS A MATTER OF FACT, THERE'S NOT ONE HOSPITAL IN THE ENTIRE UNITED STATES THAT BACKED MR. GORMAN'S OPINIONS. NOT ONE. FACT IS THAT ONCE THE VACCINES WERE MADE AVAILABLE, THE VAST, VAST, VAST MAJORITY OF COVID RELATED HOSPITALIZATIONS AND DEATHS WERE UNVACCINATED. SO NOW, THIS LEADS ME TO ASK YOU THIS. DO YOU WANT SOMEONE ON A HEALTH ADVISORY BOARD WHO DOES NOT FOLLOW BEST MEDICAL PRACTICE? MR. CRYE. IF YOU HAD A STROKE OR A HEART ATTACK OR IF YOU WERE SEPTIC, WOULD YOU WANT A NURSE TO DO WHATEVER HE WANTS TO DO? OR WOULD YOU WANT A PERSON TO FOLLOW THE DOCTORS, OFTEN ICU DOCTORS, FOLLOW THE ORDERS OF A NEUROSURGEON, FOLLOW THE ORDERS OF A CARDIOLOGIST? I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO ASK IF YOU CAN ENCOURAGE DR. MEW TO FINALLY HAVE A PUBLIC DEBATE WITH DR. KARUBA DARENIS WYDEN, WHO IS A HIGHLY RESPECTED ICU DOCTOR AS WELL AS A NEUROLOGIST AT MERCY IN READING. SO THAT THE SHASTA COUNTY CAN HEAR FOR THEMSELVES WHAT THE FACTS ARE REGARDING COVID. I STRONGLY ADVISE AGAINST ADDING MR. GORMAN TO THE HEALTH ADVISORY BOARD. I PERSONALLY WOULD NOT TRUST MR. GORMAN WITH MY HEALTH CARE OR ANY OF MY LOVED ONES. NICK GARDNER, COME ON UP AND SHARE. THIS WILL BE OUR LAST SPEAKER. WELL, I DO TRUST ARTHUR GORMAN. YOU KNOW, THIS IS FOR GREG, THE GUY THAT'S ALWAYS WHINING ABOUT THERE'S NO CHEATING IN THE VOTING. JUST DOWN HERE IN LODI, JUST SOUTH OF STOCKTON, THERE WAS A CITY COUNCILOR DOWN THERE THAT JUST GOT CONVICTED OF DOZENS OF VOTER FRAUDS. HE GOT CONVICTED OF 23 VOTER REGISTRATIONS AT HIS HOME ADDRESS. HE TOOK AND HID THEM. HE HAD BALLOTS AT HOME, COMPLETED MAIL-IN BALLOTS. 47 ADDITIONAL. REGISTRATIONS LISTED TO HIS PERSONAL EMAIL. 41 COMPLETED MAIL-IN BALLOTS DISCOVERED AT HIS HOME. ALLEGATIONS THAT HE INTIMIDATED, COERCED INTO SIGNING BALLOTS, OTHER PEOPLE TO SIGN BALLOTS, THEN HE FILLED THEM IN. SO THIS IS JUST ONE CASE. IT DOESN'T AMOUNT TO NOTHING, YOU KNOW. MODI IS A SMALL PLACE. YOU KNOW, I WAS I DIDN'T WANT TO GIVE THE IMPRESSION THAT I WAS AGAINST THIS DEAL DOWN IN ANDERSON THAT GOT THE 22 OR 24 MILLION DOLLARS. I THINK THAT'S A REALLY GOOD DEAL. I JUST WANTED TO EMPHASIZE THAT MAYBE SOME OF THAT MONEY COULD GO TO THE VICTIMS. THAT WAS MY POINT THERE. AND I'M ASHAMED OF ALAN LONG AND PLUMMER NOT JUMPING ON THAT AND SAYING THIS IS A GOOD DEAL. WELL, THANK YOU. YOU KNOW, IF I HAD A DOG DON'T YELL OUT AND INTERRUPT THE MEETING. THAT'S YOUR ONE WARNING. IF I HAD A DOG AS UGLY AS YOU, I'D SHAVE HIS ASS AND TEACH HIM HOW TO WALK BACKWARDS. SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK YOU'RE DOING A GOOD JOB, AND DUCKETT'S SAYING YOU FINALLY GIVE US THE RESPECT WE DESERVE. SHE MUST HAVE BEEN GOING BACK TO MODY BECAUSE HE WAS ARROGANT [CONSENT CALENDAR] AND DISRESPECTFUL, AND WE'VE HAD NOTHING BUT RESPECT SINCE WE GOT RID OF HIM. SO HAVE A GREAT DAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, MOVING ON TO CONSENT. MS. BLANKENSHIP, DO WE HAVE ANY ITEMS THAT ARE PULLED? NO, CHAIR, WE DO NOT. OKAY. SUPERVISOR PLUMMER, WERE YOU GOING TO RECUSE YOURSELF ON ONE ITEM? YES, I HAVE TO RECUSE MYSELF FROM C4 DUE TO FINANCIAL INTEREST. SO WE WILL HEAR THAT ONE SEPARATELY. I'LL TAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. SO MOVED. SECOND. MOTION BY KEVIN CRYE, SECOND BY MATT PLUMMER. WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE ONE ITEM, YOU'LL RECUSE YOURSELF. HEY, CHRIS, COULD YOU CALL FOR AN INDIVIDUAL VOTE ON THIS ONE? [03:00:01] SURE. IT WAS C WHAT? C4. C4, OKAY. C4 WILL CALL FOR AN INDIVIDUAL VOTE AFTER WE TAKE THE REMAINDER OF THE CONSENT. OKAY, YOU WANT THAT'S WHAT THE MOTION ON THE TABLE WAS FOR, CORRECT? WAS THE REMAINDER OF CONSENT? YEAH. SUPERVISOR LONG, YOU WANT TO TAKE A MOTION ON CONSENT SEPARATELY? CORRECT. THERE'S ONE ITEM THAT I DID NOT PULL, BUT I'M GOING TO VOTE NO ON THAT ONE ITEM. SO I CAN CLARIFY FOR YOU IF YOU'D LIKE. OKAY, SURE. OKAY, SO I AM GOING TO VOTE NO ON C-1. WHICH IS THE APPOINTMENT OF ARTHUR GORMAN, AND THEN I WILL APPROVE MY VOTE FOR ALL THE REMAINING CONSENT. COUNTY COUNCIL, SHOULD WE VOTE ON THAT ONE SEPARATELY AS WELL? NO? OKAY. ALL RIGHT, SO MOTION MADE BY SUPERVISOR CRYE, SECONDED BY SUPERVISOR HARMON. [C4 Approve a retroactive agreement with Faithworks Community Coalition, Inc., for the development and construction of a 14-unit permanent housing complex, in an amount not to exceed $1,000,000 and approve a budget amendment which increases appropriations by $1,000,000 in the Community Action Agency Budget (BU 590) offset by use of restricted HHAP fund balance.] ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OTHER THAN ALAN LONG, YOU OPPOSE C-1? JUST TO C-1, OTHERWISE, AYE. OKAY, SO NOW WE WILL HEAR C-4. DON'T GO TOO FAR. IT SHOULDN'T TAKE LONG, I DON'T THINK. OKAY, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE C-4. NOBODY WANTS TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE C-4. I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE C-4. I'LL SECOND. ALL RIGHT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE, PASSES 4-0. OKAY, NOW WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON. AND TO MY MANTON CONSTITUENTS, I'M SORRY. [R5 Conduct a public hearing and adopt a resolution which: (1) Denies the appeal of Use Permit 24-0009 (RCPA Solar 14, LLC) filed by Battle Creek Alliance Et al.; (2) affirms the Planning Commission’s adoption of a California Environmental Quality Act (CEQA) determination of a Mitigated Negative Declaration; (3) affirms the Planning Commission’s adoption of the findings listed in Planning Commission Resolution 2026001; and (4) affirms the Planning Commission’s approval of Use Permit 24-0009, based on the findings and subject to the conditions of approval set forth in Exhibit A in Planning Commission Resolution 2026-001.] I WISH I COULD HAVE TOLD YOU THAT IT WOULD PROBABLY BE AFTERNOON. SO, YEAH. R5. MOVING ON TO A SCHEDULED HEARING. ITEM R5 TO CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER ADOPTING A RESOLUTION WHICH WOULD DENIES THE APPEALS USE PERMIT 24 009 RCPA SOLAR 14 LLC FILED BY BATTLE CREEK ALLIANCE. AT ALL, AFFIRMS THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S ADOPTION OF A CEQA DETERMINATION OF A MITIGATED NEGATIVE DECLARATION, AFFIRMS THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S ADOPTION OF THE FINDING LISTED IN PLANNING COMMISSION RESOLUTION 2026 001, AND AFFIRMS THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S APPROVAL OF USE PERMIT 24 009. BASED ON THE FINDINGS, I'M SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL SET FORTH IN EXHIBIT A IN A PLANNING COMMISSION RESOLUTION 2026 001. AT THIS TIME, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO COUNCIL LARMER TO CLARIFY WHAT THE BOARD IS BEING ASKED TO CONSIDER. MR. CHAIRMAN, THIS ITEM WAS HEARD AND A DECISION WAS MADE BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THIS IS AN APPEAL. THIS WOULD BE AN ABUSE OF DISCRETION STANDARD, WHICH MEANS YOU'RE ONLY ASSESSING WHETHER THE PLANNING COMMISSION ACTED WITHIN THEIR JURISDICTION AND AUTHORITY. OKAY, THANK YOU, COUNCILOR LARMER. BEFORE PROCEEDING, I WILL ASK IF ANY BOARD MEMBERS WISH TO DISCUSS A DISQUALIFICATION FROM PARTICIPATING IN THIS MATTER. SEEING NONE, THE RECORD SHOULD REFLECT THE BOARD HAS RECEIVED ALL DOCUMENTS AND CORRESPONDENCE OFFERED AS EVIDENCE AND FILED WITH THE CLERK OF THE BOARD PRIOR TO THE MEETING. AT THIS TIME, I WELCOME RESOURCE MANAGEMENT TO PRESENT THE PRESENT STAFF REPORT. GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIR, SUPERVISORS, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC. MY NAME IS ELIZABETH TOWERS, ASSOCIATE PLANNER WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF RESOURCE MANAGEMENT. AGENDA ITEM R5 IS AN APPEAL OF USE PERMIT APPLICATION NUMBER 24 0009. THE PROJECT SITE IS LOCATED AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF THE INTERSECTION OF BATTLE CREEK BOTTOM ROAD AND WILSON HILL ROAD IN MANN, CALIFORNIA. IT WILL BE LOCATED WITHIN A 25-ACRE LEASE AREA LOCATED IN THE NORTHWEST SECTION OF THE PROPERTY. THIS IS AN AERIAL IMAGE OF THE PROJECT SITE SHOWING THE APPROXIMATE AREA OF THE DEVELOPMENT IN YELLOW. AND THEN HERE'S AN OVERALL SITE PLAN AND LOCATION MAP FOR THE PARCEL AND A DETAILED VIEW OF THE GROUND LEASE AREA AND LOCATION OF THE PROPOSED IMPROVEMENTS. ON JANUARY 22, 2026, PLANNING COMMISSION BY A 3-2 VOTE APPROVED USE PERMIT 24-0009 AND ADOPTED THE SECRET DETERMINATION OF A MITIGATED NEGATIVE DECLARATION. THE PROPOSED PROJECT WOULD INTERCONNECT TO PG&E'S ELECTRICAL DISTRIBUTION AND WOULD UTILIZE SOLAR MODULES MOUNTED TO A STEEL RACKING SYSTEM. WHICH WOULD BE ANCHORED TO THE GROUND USING STILL DRIVEN PIERS. THE OVERALL HEIGHT OF THE ARRAY WOULD BE NO MORE THAN 15 FEET ABOVE GROUND SURFACE LEVEL. BATTLE CREEK ALLIANCE FILED A TIMELY APPEAL OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S ACTIONS ON A USE PERMIT WITH THE SHASTA COUNTY CLERK OF THE BOARD. THE APPELLANT ASSERTS THAT THERE WOULD BE A SIGNIFICANT ENVIRONMENTAL EFFECT AS A RESULT OF THE PROPOSED PROJECT AND THAT AN EIR SHOULD HAVE BEEN PREPARED. DETAILS REGARDING THE PROJECT AND ITS POTENTIAL ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS CAN BE FOUND IN THE INITIAL STUDY AND MITIGATED NEGATIVE DECLARATION AND THE GENERAL ISSUES OF THE APPEAL ARE SUMMARIZED AND ADDRESSED IN THE PROVIDED STAFF REPORT PURSUANT TO SHASTA COUNTY CODE [03:05:06] THIS HEARING SHALL BE LIMITED TO THE GROUNDS AS PREVIOUSLY STATED IN THE NOTICE OF THE APPEAL, THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS SHALL REVIEW THE RECORD ON APPEAL, ANY ADDITIONAL RELEVANT INFORMATION WHICH WE RECEIVED AT THIS HEARING, AND DETERMINE WHETHER THE PLANNING COMMISSION EXCEEDED ITS AUTHORITY, WHETHER THERE WAS A FAIR HEARING BEFORE IT, AND WHETHER IT ABUSED ITS DISCRETION TO THE PREJUDICE OF THE APPELLANT. IN ADDITION, WHENEVER THE EVIDENCE BEFORE THE BOARD SUPPORTS ANY FINDINGS OR DETERMINATION WHICH PROHIBITS APPROVAL UNDER THE SHASTA COUNTY CODE SECTION 1792 020F, THE BOARD SHALL NOT AFFIRM THE APPROVAL OR REVERSE THE DISAPPROVAL OF THESE PERMITS. IF APPROPRIATE CONDITIONS SUFFICIENT TO OVERCOME ALL SUCH FINDINGS ARE INCLUDED IN THAT DECISION. SHASTA COUNTY CODE SECTION 1792-020F. STATES THAT NO USE PERMIT SHALL BE GRANTED UNLESS FINDINGS ARE MADE THAT THE ESTABLISHMENT, MAINTENANCE, AND OPERATION OF THE USE WILL NOT BE DETRIMENTAL TO THE HEALTH, SAFETY, MORALS, OR COMFORT AND GENERAL WELFARE OF PERSONS RESIDING AND WORKING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, OR BE DETRIMENTAL OR INJURIOUS TO PROPERTY AND IMPROVEMENTS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR TO THE GENERAL WELFARE OF THE COUNTY. IF THE BOARD FINDS THAT THERE IS EVIDENCE WHICH PROHIBITS APPROVAL OF THE USE PERMIT UNDER SHASTA COUNTY CODE SECTION 1792 020F, IT WOULD BE THE RECOMMENDATION THAT THE MATTER BE SENT BACK TO STAFF AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO RETURN WITH THE RECOMMENDED FINDINGS OR DETERMINATION AND APPROPRIATE CONDITIONS TO OVERCOME SUCH FINDINGS FOR CONSIDERATION AND ADOPTION. UNDER THE APPEAL, THE APPELLANT ASSERTS THAT THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE CEQA ARE QUITE CLEAR AND THAT SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE CONTAINED IN THE PROJECT'S RECORD DEMANDS THAT AN EIR, OR ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT, BE PREPARED. CEQA REQUIRES THAT AN EIR BE PREPARED IN LIGHT OF THE WHOLE RECORD. OR IF IN THE LIGHT OF THE WHOLE RECORD A FAIR ARGUMENT CAN BE MADE THAT A PROJECT MAY HAVE A SIGNIFICANT EFFECT ON THE ENVIRONMENT. AFTER CONSIDERING THE RECORD, THE PLANNING COMMISSION DID NOT CONCLUDE THAT A FAIR ARGUMENT THAT A PROJECT MAY HAVE A SIGNIFICANT EFFECT ON THE ENVIRONMENT WAS MADE AND ADOPTED THE INITIAL STUDY AND MITIGATED NEGATIVE DECLARATION. STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS TAKE THE FOLLOWING ACTIONS LISTED ON THE SLIDE, WHICH WOULD BE TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING, CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, AND ADOPT A RESOLUTION THAT DENIES THE APPEAL OF USE PERMIT 24 9, AFFIRMS THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S ADOPTION OF A SECRET DETERMINATION OF A MITIGATED NEGATIVE DECLARATION, AFFIRMS THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S ADOPTION OF THE FINDINGS LISTED IN RESOLUTION 2026-001, AND AFFIRMS THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S APPROVAL OF USE PERMIT 24-0009. WITH THAT BEING SAID, THE BOARD MAY CONSIDER THE FOLLOWING ALTERNATIVES, THE FIRST OF WHICH IS TO UPHOLD THE APPEAL, INCLUDING THE ADOPTION OF THE NECESSARY FINDINGS, DIRECT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO VACATE AND SET ASIDE ITS ADOPTION OF THE MITIGATED NEGATIVE DECLARATION AND APPROVAL OF THE USE PERMIT, AND DIRECT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO DIRECT STAFF TO PREPARE AN ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT FOR THE PROJECT, AND UPON COMPLETION OF THAT EIR, TO RETURN THE APPLICATION TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR FURTHER REVIEW SUBJECT TO THE PUBLIC HEARING. OR THE SECOND ALTERNATIVE WOULD BE TO FIND THAT THERE'S EVIDENCE BEFORE THE BOARD THAT SUPPORTS FINDINGS WHICH PROHIBIT APPROVAL OF THESE PERMITS UNDER SHASTA COUNTY CODE SECTION 1792 02 0F. AND THEN ADOPT THE FINDINGS AND OR DETERMINATIONS AND ADOPT APPROPRIATE CONDITIONS SUFFICIENT TO OVERCOME THE FINDINGS OR DETERMINATION IF THIS ALTERNATIVE WERE TO BE SELECTED IT WOULD BE STAFFS RECOMMENDATION THAT THE BOARD CONTINUE THE HEARING ALL RIGHT, I DON'T SEE ANYBODY IN QUEUE FOR QUESTIONS SO AT THIS TIME I WILL NOW OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING WE WILL BEGIN WITH THE PELLETS PRESENTATION FOLLOWED BY THE APPLICANTS PRESENTATION OR SUMMATION AT MY DISCRETION THERE MAY BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR REBUTTAL LIMITED TO MATTERS ALREADY RAISED BY PRIOR EVIDENCE AND TESTIMONY SO WILL DO THE PELLETS PRESENTATION FIRST ME HOW I'D LIKE TO HEAR WELL, BEFORE THEY DO THAT, WE NEED TO CHANGE THIS TO EIGHT MINUTES. THE TIMER'S GOING DOWN ON, THERE WE GO. THANK YOU. ALREADY ON IT. OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO ARE YOU READY THEN? YEP. OKAY. SO HELLO, MY NAME IS MARALEE WOODHOUSE. I'M FROM BATTLE CREEK ALLIANCE AND DEFIANCE CANYON RAPTOR RESCUE. I'VE LIVED IN MOUNTAIN FOR CLOSE TO 40 YEARS NOW. ON THE SHASTA COUNTY SIDE, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ALL KNOW, BUT IT'S HALF IN SHASTA COUNTY AND HALF IN TEHAMA COUNTY. I CERTAINLY DO. OKAY. SO ANYWAY, SO WE ARE RESIDENTS AS WELL AS MYSELF WHO ARE [03:10:01] APPEALING TO YOU THE APPROVAL OF THIS PROJECT BECAUSE IT DOESN'T MEET A LOT OF THE REQUIREMENTS. THERE ARE SO MANY ISSUES INVOLVED HERE. THAT'S WHY THERE ARE SO MANY COMMENTS FROM PEOPLE AND MYSELF. AND, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A STANDARD OF LEVEL THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED OF ALL THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS. AND THAT LEVEL SHOULD BE VERY HIGH BECAUSE THAT IS WHERE ALL THE IMPORTANT THINGS IN THE COUNTY ARE PROTECTED. BUT INSTEAD, THIS PROJECT HAS THE LEVEL WAY DOWN KIND OF BELOW THE FLOOR THERE SOMEWHERE. AND THAT'S THE POINT OF OUR APPEAL. SO THIS IS ACTUALLY A MAP OF THE BATTLE CREEK WATERSHED, SO THAT'S GOING BOTH IN SHASTA AND TEHAMA COUNTY. THE BASIC LEVELS OF THE WATERSHED ARE HIGHWAY 44 AND HIGHWAY 36 TO THE SOUTH. AND BECAUSE THIS LAND HAS BEEN OWNED PRIVATELY MOSTLY FOR THE PAST 100 YEARS OR SO, THERE'S BEEN VERY FEW SURVEYS OR MONITORING. SO THAT'S A REALLY BIG DEAL. AND SO IN THESE MANY WAYS, THE PROJECT DOESN'T PROVIDE ADEQUATE REVIEW UNDER CEQA REQUIREMENTS. THERE HAVE BEEN INSUFFICIENT BIOLOGICAL SURVEYS. THEY WERE SHORT, ONLY THREE DAYS' WORTH, AND THERE WERE MISTAKES IN THEM. AND THEY COMPLETELY REPEATED MANY, MANY TIMES, NOT EXPECTED TO OCCUR FOR DIFFERENT KINDS OF SPECIES. AND THAT THERE, YOU KNOW, THEY SAID THERE WAS VERY LITTLE HABITAT FRAGMENTATION, WHICH IS NOT TRUE. AND SO THERE'S A LOT MISSING THERE. CDFW WROTE THREE DIFFERENT LETTERS THAT DISAGREED THAT SIGNIFICANT IMPACTS WOULD NOT OCCUR. AND THE COMPANY REFUSED TO FOLLOW CDF-RECOMMENDED SURVEY PROTOCOLS OR PERFORM A WETLANDS DELINEATION, AND THE COUNTY REFUSED TO PREPARE AN EIR WHEN WE BROUGHT TO ATTENTION ALL OF OUR SUBSTANTIVE EVIDENCE. AND SHASTA COUNTY COURT RULED AGAINST THE COUNTY IN A SIMILAR CASE. THAT WOULD BE THE CASE AGAINST THE HIGH PLAINS SHOOTING CENTER, WHICH MOST OF YOU PROBABLY KNOW ABOUT. AND SO THIS IS A PICTURE OF LOCAL AREA. SO WHERE THAT YELLOW PUSHPIN IS TOWARDS THE TOP AND IT SAYS SOLAR NEXT TO IT, THAT'S WHERE THIS PROJECT IS. THE OTHER PUSHPINS SHOW WHERE BIG RANCH OWNERS HAVE BEEN APPROACHED FOR OTHER SOLAR PROJECTS WHICH ARE EVEN BIGGER THAN THIS ONE. THE ONE DIRECTLY TO THE SOUTH OF THE SOLAR ONE IS ON SOMEBODY'S LAND. THEY APPROACHED HIM FOR A 280 ACRE SOLAR PROJECT. AND SO FAR, THESE OTHER PEOPLE HAVE TURNED THEM DOWN. THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WILL HAPPEN FOREVER. SO THERE ARE POSSIBLE OTHER EFFECTS IN THE FUTURE. AND THEN ON TOP OF THAT, TO THE EAST SIDE THERE, WHERE YOU SEE ALL THOSE LITTLE HOLES, WHICH ARE BEYOND THE BATTLE CREEK WATERSHED AS WELL, THOSE ARE ALL CLEAR CUTS THAT HAVE BEEN DONE SINCE THE 90S. AND THE BIG LARGE BOOT-SHAPED PIECE THERE IS THE 27,000 ACRE FIRE THAT WAS BURNED IN 2012. SO THERE ARE HUGE HABITAT FRAGMENTATION ISSUES HERE. THERE ARE HUGE CHANGES TO THE LANDSCAPE. THERE'S A LOT GOING ON HERE ALREADY. AND THERE ARE MANY COURT CASES THAT HAVE LOOKED AT THESE ISSUES, AND ALL OF THEM, OR WELL, NOT MAYBE ALL OF THEM, BUT A LOT OF THEM HAVE SAID THAT YOU CAN'T AVOID DOING CUMULATIVE IMPACT ASSESSMENTS BY CHOPPING EVERYTHING INTO SMALLER PIECES. THIS IS A SEQUENTIAL LOSS OF MANY, MANY IMPORTANT ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES. AND SO THIS IS JUST FURTHER TO SHOW WHAT'S HAPPENED OVER THE YEARS. THE LOGGING WAS BEGUN, WELL, THE MOST RECENT LOGGING WAS BEGUN IN THE 1990S. AND YOU CAN SEE THOSE LITTLE HOLES OPENING UP THERE DOWN BY LYMAN SPRINGS. THAT WAS WHEN THEY FIRST STARTED. THIS IS IT BY 2012 WHEN IT WAS BEFORE THE FIRE BURNED. YOU CAN SEE HOW MANY THOSE WERE. THOSE ARE ALL 20-ACRE CLEAR CUTS. AND IT'S MANY, MANY, PROBABLY ABOUT 60 PROJECTS THAT HAD OCCURRED BY THEN. AND THAT WAS WHEN THE FIRE BURNED BY 2013. AND IN THIS WHOLE AREA, THERE HAD NEVER BEEN ANY CUMULATIVE IMPACTS ANALYSIS FOR THEM. I MEAN, IT'S A HUGE AMOUNT OF LOSS THAT NOBODY'S EVER EVEN LOOKED AT. AND SO NOW WITH THE APPROVAL OF THE 9,000-PANEL SOLAR FARM, JUST APPROVED RECENTLY, IT'S ANOTHER IMPACT COMING TO THE AREA, AND IT HASN'T HAD SUFFICIENT INFORMATION TO EVEN MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION. SO HERE, YOU KNOW, COST VERSUS BENEFIT. SO THE TREES THAT ARE GOING TO BE CUT DOWN ARE AT LEAST 150 YEARS OLD. AND THIS IS NATIVE OAK WOODLAND, WHICH IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO THE COUNTY, TO MANY THINGS. AND IT WILL BE DESTROYED FOR A 30 YEAR LONG PROJECT. [03:15:01] AND THEN THE COMPANY SAYS THAT THEY'LL RESTORE IT AT THE END OF THAT 30 YEARS. WELL, THAT MEANS THEY HAVE TO START THE WHOLE PROCESS OVER, SO 150 MORE YEARS. THAT MEANS THAT THIS WOULD NOT BE RESTORED UNTIL 2206. AND THESE COSTS IN THE LOSS OF HABITAT, IN CHANGES IN AIR QUALITY, MANY, MANY THINGS I'VE WRITTEN ABOUT THAT IT AFFECTS. THESE ARE PAID FOR BY THE LOCAL AND COUNTY RESIDENTS, BY US. AND IT'S NO BENEFIT TO ANYBODY EXCEPT THE RPCA COMPANY AND TO THE ONE LANDOWNER WHO IS LEASING THE LAND. AND THAT TREE THAT YOU SEE ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE THERE IS PROBABLY A 200- OR MORE-YEAR-OLD OAK. IF YOU LOOK CAREFULLY, YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE IS A SCREECH OWL IN THE CAVITY THERE. CAVITY NESTERS, THERE'S A LOT OF KINDS OF SPECIES THAT ARE CAVITY NESTERS, AND OLD OAK TREES ARE VERY IMPORTANT TO THEM, AND IT TAKES YEARS FOR THEM TO DEVELOP THE ABILITY TO HAVE CAVITIES. AND SO THIS IS IRREPARABLE HARM, AND IT'S LIFE AND DEATH FOR A LOT OF THINGS. AND ON THE RIGHT THERE IS AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT A 9,000 PANEL SOLAR FARM LOOKS LIKE AND HOW MUCH SPACE IT TAKES. AND SO THESE ARE SOME OF THE RARE AND PROTECTED RESIDENTS IN THE AREA THAT ARE ACTUALLY PHOTOGRAPHED THERE. THAT EAGLE IS ON MY PROPERTY. BELOW THERE IS A GIANT CHINOOK SALMON THAT WAS FOUND IN SOUTH FORK BATTLE CREEK IN 2008. NEXT TO THAT ARE TWO RINGTAILS WHO ARE PROTECTED SPECIES WHO WERE NOT EVEN LISTED IN THE SURVEYS. AND THEN ABOVE THAT IS WHAT'S CALLED BUTTE COUNTY FRITILLARY. THAT IS A VERY RARE PLANT WHICH GROWS IN VARIOUS PLACES IN MOUNTAIN. AND SO THIS IS TO SHOW WHAT MY EXPERIENCE HAS BEEN OVER THE MANY DECADES I'VE BEEN WORKING ON THESE KIND OF ISSUES NOW. UP IN THE CORNER THERE ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE IS AN AREA THAT WAS MARKED FOR CLEAR-CUTTING SOME TIME AGO. THE PERSON IN THE BLUE SHIRT IS STANDING BY AN AREA WHERE THERE WAS BUTTE COUNTY FRITILLARY. AND THERE WERE ALL KINDS OF PROMISES MADE. THEY WOULD PROTECT IT. THEY WOULD MARK IT OFF. THEY WOULD DO ALL THIS STUFF. WELL, DOWN IN THE BOTTOM IS WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE AFTER THEY CUT IT LIKE AFTER THEY CUT IT. AND THOSE FLOWERS HAVE NOT GROWN THERE SINCE THEN. AND SO OUR AREA HAS BEEN BEING ATTACKED FOR A LONG TIME NOW. AND IT'S BEEN CHANGED REALLY DRAMATICALLY, ESPECIALLY IN THE AMOUNT OF TEMPERATURE. AND SO THIS WILL POUR MORE FIRE ON THE PROBLEM ALREADY THERE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. DID ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME? NO, WE'LL HAVE BOARD DISCUSSION AFTERWARDS. ALL RIGHT. SO DON'T GO TOO FAR. OKAY, SHOULD I STAY HERE THEN? SURE, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. OKAY, THANK YOU. OH, I'M TAKING YOUR CLICKER WITH ME. NOW WE HAVE THE APPLICANT'S PRESENTATION. ALL RIGHT, GOOD AFTERNOON, SUPERVISORS. THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME TO HEAR ABOUT THIS PROJECT. MY NAME IS ANNE MAYTUBBY, AND ON BEHALF OF RENEWABLE PROPERTIES, I'LL BE PRESENTING ABOUT THE BATTLE CREEK BOTTOM ROAD SOLAR PROJECT. HERE'S JUST AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT WE'RE GOING TO GET INTO, A LITTLE INTRODUCTION OF OUR COMPANY, OVERVIEW OF SOLAR AS A WHOLE, AND THEN SOME FURTHER DETAILS ON THE PROJECT. RENEWABLE PROPERTIES IS A NATIONAL DEVELOPER, FINANCER, AND OWNER OF COMMUNITY SOLAR PV AND ENERGY STORAGE, AS WELL AS ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING PROJECTS. WE HAVE A DEVELOPMENT PIPELINE OF OVER ONE GIGAWATT ACROSS 15 STATES, AND IN CALIFORNIA, WE HAVE 11 PROJECTS IN ACTIVE PERMITTING. WE HAVE A CONSTRUCTION PIPELINE OF NINE PROJECTS ACROSS THE U.S., AND SEVEN OF THOSE ARE IN CALIFORNIA. AND OPERATIONALLY, WE HAVE 50 PROJECTS TOTALING OVER 225 MEGAWATTS OF CAPACITY IN NINE DIFFERENT STATES IN NINE OF THOSE PROJECTS. TO GET A LITTLE BIT INTO OUR SOLAR SITE SELECTION PROCESS, I JUST WANT TO GIVE A LITTLE BACKGROUND BECAUSE PICKING THIS SITE WAS NOT RANDOM. THERE WAS A LOT OF TIME, ENERGY, AND RESOURCES INVESTED. FIRST, WE'RE LOOKING AT MARKET STRATEGY, ENTRY ANALYSIS, STATE INCENTIVES, UTILITIES, LOCAL ORDINANCES. THEN, ONCE WE IDENTIFY LAND, WE'RE LOOKING AT SITE SPECIFICS LIKE FLOOD ZONES, TOPOGRAPHY, SITE ACCESS, CRITICAL HABITATS. PROXIMITY TO THE GRID AND WETLANDS. WE'RE MAKING SURE WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO INTERCONNECT COST EFFECTIVELY WITH PG&E. WE HAVE WILLING LANDOWNERS IN THIS CASE THAT WE'RE LEASING THAT PART OF THE PROPERTY FROM. SO AGAIN, JUST A LOT OF DETAIL GOES INTO PICKING THIS SITE. FOR SOME LOCAL CONTEXT AS WELL, SHASTA COUNTY DOES HAVE AN OBJECTIVE IN THEIR GENERAL PLAN TO INCREASE THE UTILIZATION OF RENEWABLE ENERGY BY ENCOURAGING THE DEVELOPMENT OF SOLAR. SO THIS PROJECT DOES DIRECTLY SUPPORT THAT OBJECTIVE BY DEVELOPING A LOCALLY GENERATED RENEWABLE ENERGY RESOURCE. AS WELL, AS MANY OF YOU MIGHT KNOW, HYDROPOWER HAS CONSISTENTLY BEEN A SHARE OF LOCAL ELECTRICITY IN [03:20:01] SHASTA COUNTY, AND SOME OF THAT HAS RECENTLY BEEN DECOMMISSIONED BY PG&E. SO OUR HOPE WITH THIS PROJECT IS THAT WE CAN HELP FILL THAT GAP BY PROVIDING NEW LOCAL GENERATION AND HELPING TO MAINTAIN A STABLE AND DIVERSIFIED POWER SUPPLY. TO GET INTO SOME FURTHER PROJECT DETAILS, YOU ALREADY SAW WHERE THE LOCATION IS, BUT I DO JUST WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT THIS PROJECT IS GOING TO TAKE UP 25 ACRES, WHICH IS LESS THAN 7% OF THE PROJECT PARCEL. IT'S 376 ACRES. IT'S A 3-MEGAWATT PV SYSTEM, WHICH WILL HAVE THE POWER TO ENERGIZE APPROXIMATELY 775 HOMES ANNUALLY AT THE LOCAL LEVEL. IT'S IN THE UNCLASSIFIED ZONE. WHICH IS AN ALLOWED USE WITH THE USE PERMIT, AND STAFF DID RECOMMEND THE APPROVAL OF THIS USE PERMIT PRIOR TO OUR PLANNING COMMISSION HEARING, AND PLANNING COMMISSION DID APPROVE THAT USE PERMIT IN JANUARY. ON THE ENVIRONMENTAL SIDE, WE'VE DONE MULTIPLE SURVEYS ALREADY AND HAVE CONTINUED BIOLOGICAL PRE CONSTRUCTION SURVEYS SCHEDULED FOR THIS SEASON, AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION DID ADOPT OUR ISMND IN THAT JANUARY HEARING AS WELL. HERE'S JUST A QUICK LOOK AT OUR SITE PLAN. JUST WANT TO GO OVER A FEW THINGS. WE ARE ADHERING TO ALL OF SHASTA COUNTY'S SETBACK REQUIREMENTS. AND AS WELL, JUST TO DRAW YOUR ATTENTION, THOSE VERTICAL LINES ARE OUR ARRAYS. AND IN OUR CEQA DOCUMENT, WE KNOW A HEIGHT OF 15 FEET FOR PANELS. BUT THAT'S REALLY JUST ANALYZING WORST-CASE SCENARIO. OUR PROJECTS ARE TYPICALLY 8 TO 9 FEET TALL FOR THOSE MODULES. OVERALL, THIS IS THE RIGHT LOCATION FOR A PROJECT. IT'S RELATIVELY FLAT, AND OUR MND DID CONCLUDE NO SIGNIFICANT IMPACTS HERE. THE PROJECT IS INTERCONNECTING TO THE EXISTING DISTRIBUTION GRID AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF THE PROJECT, WHICH JUST LIMITS ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT THERE. IT ADHERES TO THE COUNTY ZONING ORDINANCE, AND WE DO ALREADY HAVE A PPA IN PLACE WITH PG&E FOR THIS PROJECT. IT'S THROUGH THEIR REMAP PROGRAM, WHICH APPLIES TO PROJECTS OF 3 MEGAWATTS OR LESS THAT CONNECT AT THE DISTRIBUTION LEVEL. SO IT'S ENCOURAGING SMALLER-SCALE DISTRIBUTED SOLAR GENERATION IN ORDER TO REDUCE TRANSMISSION DISTANCE, MINIMIZE LAND USE FOR ELECTRICAL INFRASTRUCTURE, SUPPORT LOCALIZED ENERGY SUPPLY, INCREASE RESOURCE DIVERSITY, AND OVERALL JUST ENHANCE RESILIENCE DURING PEAK DEMAND. SO THIS PROJECT DOES JUST SUPPORT THEIR PROGRAM, AND THEY'RE REALLY JUST TRYING TO DIVERSIFY ENERGY RESOURCES. AWAY FROM JUST LARGE SCALE UTILITY PROJECTS. HERE'S A QUICK LOOK AT OUR OVERALL PROJECT TIMELINE. WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS PROJECT FOR A VERY LONG TIME. IN 2023 WAS WHEN WE FIRST APPROACHED THE PLANNING DIVISION FOR THIS PROJECT, AND SINCE THEN WE'VE DONE A MULTITUDE OF SITE STUDIES, MET WITH THE COMMUNITY, DONE COMMUNITY OUTREACH, RECIRCULATED OUR ISMND, AND ALL OF THAT HAS LED TO THAT APPROVAL IN JANUARY. CONSTRUCTION WILL ALSO BE ANTICIPATED TO START THIS YEAR. HERE'S A LIST OF JUST SOME OF THE SITE STUDIES THAT WE'VE COMPLETED. I JUST WANT TO EMPHASIZE HERE THAT WE HAVE HIRED EXPERTS IN MANY DIFFERENT FIELDS TO TAKE A LOOK AT THIS SITE, PARTLY BECAUSE OF THE PLANNING DIVISION'S HIGH STANDARD FOR THIS PROJECT AND ALSO IN RESPONSE TO THAT PUBLIC INPUT. SO WE'RE VERY CONFIDENT IN THESE SURVEYS THAT HAVE BEEN DONE AND HAPPY TO TALK THROUGH MORE OF ANY OF THOSE IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS. ON THE CEQA SIDE, THE PROJECT CEQA COMPLIANCE IS BASED ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S ADOPTION OF THE ISM&D. SO JUST TO GET INTO A LITTLE MORE OF WHAT WE'VE DONE, WE'VE DONE COMMUNITY OUTREACH. WE HELD A VOLUNTARY COMMUNITY MEETING IN MANTON LAST SEPTEMBER AND THEN CONDUCTED OUTREACH TO MANY LOCAL COMMUNITY MEMBERS BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION HEARING TO HEAR THEIR CONCERNS ABOUT THE PROJECT. WE HAVE PRE-CONSTRUCTION SURVEYS SCHEDULED IN THE FUTURE AHEAD OF CONSTRUCTION. AND WE'VE ALSO ADDED MITIGATION MEASURES AND PROJECT CHANGES IN RESPONSE TO PUBLIC INPUT. SO SOME OF THAT INCLUDES VOLUNTARY OAK WOODLANDS MITIGATION, A VISUAL BUFFER ALONG BATTLE CREEK BOTTOM ROAD, VEGETATION MANAGEMENT THAT NOW EXCLUDES ANY CHEMICALS, REMOVAL OF BARBED WIRE FENCING, AND ADDING AN ADDITIONAL BALD EAGLE PRE-CONSTRUCTION SURVEY. SO JUST SOME PROJECT BENEFITS. IT PROVIDES GRID STABILITY AND CLEAN, AFFORDABLE POWER FOR LOCAL PROJECT AND BROADER COUNTY COMMUNITIES. WE'RE ADDING DISTRIBUTED GENERATION TO THE LOCAL GRID, IMPROVING RELIABILITY. IT IS A LATE-STAGE DEVELOPMENT, SO DEPENDING ON THE OUTCOME OF THIS MEETING, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO START PRE-CONSTRUCTION SURVEYS RIGHT AWAY AND THEN COMMENCE CONSTRUCTION THIS YEAR. AGAIN, IT'S A NEAR-TERM OPPORTUNITY TO STRENGTHEN THE LOCAL ENERGY SUPPLY. IT WILL POWER UP TO 775 HOMES ANNUALLY. AND HELPING REPLACE MEGAWATTS FROM LOCAL HYDROPOWER DECOMMISSIONING. [03:25:02] WE'LL BE USING EXISTING DISTRIBUTION GRID INFRASTRUCTURE FROM PG&E, SO THIS, AGAIN, KEEPS ELECTRICITY LOCAL AND MINIMIZES ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS. WE'RE ALSO HELPING PRESERVE PROPERTY RIGHTS. OUR RURAL LANDOWNERS ARE ABLE TO GENERATE INCOME BECAUSE THEY'RE LEASING THAT SECTION OF THE PARCEL TO US WHILE MAINTAINING FUTURE OPPORTUNITIES TO USE THAT LAND. ONCE THE PROJECT LIFE IS OVER, AND ALSO TO USE THE REST OF THEIR LAND HOW THEY PLEASE. SO THIS PROJECT GENERATES JOBS, TAX REVENUE DURING CONSTRUCTION, AND LASTLY IS OVERALL A LOW-IMPACT DEVELOPMENT. ON THAT NOTE, THANK YOU FOR HEARING OUR PRESENTATION. I HAVE MY TEAM HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. WOULD EITHER SIDE LIKE ANY REBUTTALS? DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO REBUT? OKAY, AND THEN I'LL OFFER THEM THE SAME THING. THEY ARE SPEAKING ABOUT THE ABILITY TO PROVIDE POWER TO 775 HOMES, BUT THOSE ARE NOT MANTON HOMES. THOSE ARE FROM CONNECTING TO PG&E LINE. THERE IS NO ACTUAL BENEFIT TO MANTON FROM THE ELECTRICITY. IN THE COMMUNITY MEETING, MANY OF THE RESIDENTS ACTUALLY ASKED THEM IF THEY WOULD. BE PROVIDING ELECTRICITY TO MANTON WHEN THERE WAS ANY PROBLEM WITH OUR ELECTRICITY WHEN IT GOES OUT OR AT ANY OTHER TIME AND THEY SAID NO. ADDITIONALLY, THEY DIDN'T MENTION HOW THE CDFW ACTUALLY ASKED FOR TREE SURVEYS AS WELL TO SHOW WHAT THE TREES WERE IN THAT AREA THEY'RE TAKING OUT, HOW OLD THEY WERE, THINGS LIKE THAT. THEY SPECIFICALLY IGNORED THAT REQUEST OVER AND OVER AGAIN. THEY NEVER EVEN SAID NO WE'RE NOT DOING THAT THEY JUST DIDN'T DO IT. CDFW REQUIRED OTHER THINGS TOO, LIKE A MULTITUDE OF SURVEYS FOR BALD EAGLES AND OTHER THINGS. THEY DIDN'T DO THOSE. THEY'RE SAYING THEY'LL DO ONE NOW, BUT THAT'S NOT PROTOCOLS. SO THOSE ARE THE MAIN THINGS. BUT I WOULD REALLY ENCOURAGE YOU, I DOUBT THAT ANY OF YOU HAVE READ MY COMMENTS, PROBABLY, BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT, AND I KNOW YOU READ A LOT OF THINGS, BUT THERE IS A LOT IN MY COMMENTS, A LOT OF MAPS, PHOTOGRAPHS, SPECIFIC INFORMATION ABOUT THE PLACE AND WHAT IS THERE, AND PHOTOGRAPHS OF WHO OCCURS THERE. THERE'S JUST A LOT OF INFORMATION. AND ACTUALLY, MR. HARMON, YOUR WIFE CALLED ME A FEW YEARS AGO TO RESCUE SOME BABY OWLS ON YOUR PROPERTY. DID WHAT? SHE CALLED ME TO RESCUE SOME BABY OWLS THAT WERE FOUND ON YOUR PROPERTY, BUT IT TURNED OUT THAT THEY WERE NESTLINGS WHO WERE JUST DOING THEIR NORMAL THING. SOUNDS LIKE HER. WELL, IT WAS GOOD. THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO BE WITH YOU. THANK YOU. WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE THE REBUT? I WOULD JUST LIKE TO PROVIDE SOME MORE CONTEXT TO OUR SURVEYS. THE SURVEYS THAT WE'VE DONE THUS FAR HAVE BEEN PROTOCOL. AND WE ACTUALLY DID MEET WITH CDFW THIS PAST JANUARY BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION HEARING. IT WAS A VERY PRODUCTIVE MEETING, AND THEY HAD ALREADY SUBMITTED THEIR COMMENT LETTERS. BUT IT DID JUST PROVIDE CONTEXT TO WHY WE'VE DONE WHAT WE'VE DONE. WE DID DO AN ADDITIONAL BALD EAGLE SURVEY THIS PAST MONTH. DID NOT SEE ANY NESTS WITHIN HALF A MILE OF. THE PARCEL. SO THAT'S JUST WHAT I'D LIKE TO KNOW ON OUR SURVEYS. AND AGAIN, IF YOU HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS, HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM. WE HAVE OUR BIOLOGISTS HERE. ON THE NOTE OF PG&E, THE PROJECT IS INTERCONNECTING AT THE LOCAL DISTRIBUTION LEVEL. SO FOR THOSE WHO LIVE IN THE LOCAL AREA, THE ENERGY IS GOING TO BE DISTRIBUTED ON THAT LOCAL LEVEL. YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T GUARANTEE PRICE REDUCTIONS FROM PG&E, WHICH WAS A BIG COMMENT FROM THE COMMUNITY BUT THE GOAL OF THE REMAP PROGRAM IS TO KEEP ENERGY LOCAL WHICH IS WHAT THIS PROJECT IS DOING THANK YOU OKAY WE WILL NOW OPEN THE FLOOR FOR PUBLIC COMMENT MISS BLANKENSHIP DO WE HAVE ANY REQUESTS TO SPEAK WE DO CHAIR WE HAVE 10 REQUESTS TO SPEAK SO SPEAKERS WILL BE LIMITED TO TWO MINUTES FIRST UP PATTY HAFNER FOLLOWED BY JOHN HAFNER KURT ZIMMERMAN THEN LINDA RADFORD IF I CALLED YOUR NAME PLEASE GET IN QUEUE OVER HERE TO MY LEFT. YES. ALL RIGHT, GOT TO CUT IT DOWN. YES, SORRY. YEAH, I WAITED ALL DAY. I KNOW. I'M PATTY HAFNER, AND MY HUSBAND JOHN AND I LIVE ON BATTLE CREEK BOTTOM ROAD RIGHT NEAR THE PROJECT. I WANT TO TALK ABOUT AESTHETICS BECAUSE IT IS AN IMPORTANT PART OF THAT CEQA DOCUMENT, AND WE CONTEND THAT THE PROPOSED PROJECT HAS POTENTIALLY SIGNIFICANT IMPACTS, [03:30:02] AND I WANT TO SPECIFICALLY ADDRESS TWO POINTS IN THAT. THE ADVERSE EFFECTS OF THE SCENIC VISTA AND THE DEGRADING OF EXISTING VISUAL CHARACTER OF THE QUALITY OF THE VIEWS THAT WERE IN THE INITIAL STUDY. THEY CLAIM THAT THE PROPOSED PROJECT HAS NO IMPACT ON THE SCENIC VISTA AND THAT THERE IS NO SCENIC VISTA THAT APPEARS VISIBLE FROM BATTLE CREEK BOTTOM ROAD. THOSE ARE BOTH FALSE. LASSEN PEAK IS UNDOUBTEDLY A NATIONAL TREASURE, AND IT IS VERY VISIBLE FROM BATTLE CREEK BOTTOM ROAD AS YOU GO DOWN THE ROAD. THEIR STUDY IT SAYS THAT THE EXISTING NATIONAL VEGETATION ALONG THE EASTERN SIDE OF THE ROAD SCREENS THE PROJECT FROM PUBLIC VIEW. WELL, APPARENTLY, PLANNING AND RPCA DON'T REALIZE THAT ON NOVEMBER 14TH OF LAST YEAR, A CREW FROM CALTRANS CAME AND CLEARED ALL THAT VEGETATION DOWN TO THE GROUND, ALL THE WAY TO THE EXISTING FENCE LINE. JOHN AND I DID AN OBJECTIVE ASSESSMENT OF THE DEGREE OF THE REMAINING SCREENING. THAT WE LOOKED AT THE 12 SECTIONS THAT ARE ALONG THERE BETWEEN THE POWER POLES WE DID 10 ASSESSMENTS EACH FROM 0 TO 100 AND THERE'S ONLY 30% THAT'S SCREENED IT'S JUST IT'S NOT THERE THEY'RE GOING TO PUT NATIVE PLANTS IN WELL NATIVE PLANTS REQUIRE A LOT OF GROWTH A LOT OF TIME AND A LOT OF CAREFUL MAINTENANCE IN ORDER TO GROW IT'S REALLY HARD TO GROW NATIVE PLANTS IN A LANDSCAPING SO THAT'S NOT A VERY GOOD MITIGATION MEASURE. AND AS YOU KNOW, SUPERVISOR KALLSTROM, YOU WERE THERE AT THE MEETING IN SEPTEMBER. THERE WAS A LOT OF NEGATIVE FEEDBACK. THANK YOU. NEXT UP, JOHN HAFNER, FOLLOWED BY KURT ZIMMERMAN, LINDA RADFORD, THEN HEATHER PALTZA. IF I CALLED YOUR NAME, PLEASE GET IN QUEUE. THREE MINUTES. IF THERE'S OVER TEN SPEAKERS, SO IF WE I'M JOHN HAFNER. MY WIFE PATTY AND I LIVE NEAR THE PROPOSED PROJECT. I'M A BIOLOGY PROFESSOR EMERITUS FROM OCCIDENTAL COLLEGE. I SPECIALIZE IN BIRDS AND MAMMALS. IT IS IN THIS CONTEXT THAT I'M QUALIFIED TO COMMENT ON THE ADEQUACY OF THE PROJECT'S BIOLOGICAL ASSESSMENTS. UPON REVIEWING THE MATERIALS, I WAS STRUCK BY THE INADEQUACY OF RENCON'S BIOLOGICAL ASSESSMENT. CAL FISH AND WILDLIFE, CDFW, WROTE LETTERS TO PLANNING RECOMMENDING ADDITIONAL INFORMATION. THEY EMPHASIZED THAT BECAUSE THE PROJECT HAS POTENTIAL TO IMPACT SPECIAL STATUS SPECIES, SENSITIVE BIOLOGICAL RESOURCES AND ESSENTIAL HABITAT CONNECTIVITY THAT A THOROUGH BIOLOGICAL ASSESSMENT, INCLUDING SPECIES-SPECIFIC SURVEYS, SHOULD BE CONDUCTED PRIOR TO PROJECT APPROVAL. UNFORTUNATELY, THEIR SAGE ADVICE WAS IGNORED BY PLANNING AND RPCA. RINCON'S FIELDWORK WAS HIGHLY FLAWED. IT WAS CONDUCTED ON ONLY ONE DAY, AND HALF HER VEGETATION AND SOIL HAD BEEN DRASTICALLY DISTURBED. AS A BIRD AND MAMMAL SPECIALIST, I CAN TELL YOU THAT SUCH A CURSORY SURVEY DISALLOWS A THOROUGH APPRAISAL OF BIODIVERSITY. ALSO, JULIE ANN KERSTED, A CALIFORNIA CONSULTING BOTANIST, NOTED THAT RINCON MISIDENTIFIED PLANT SPECIES. AFTER CRITICISM, RINCON MANAGED A PERFUNCTORY BOTANICAL SURVEY OF JUST TWO DAYS. NOT SURPRISINGLY, RINCON FOUND NO SPECIAL STATUS PLANT SPECIES. THE INITIAL STUDY FAILED TO IDENTIFY WETLANDS OR APPARENT HABITATS, DESPITE CDFW EMPHASIZING THAT THEY CONSIDERED DIRECT AND INDIRECT IMPACT TO THESE HABITATS TO BE POTENTIALLY SIGNIFICANT. IN THIS REGARD, I'M APPALLED THAT THE INITIAL STUDY FAILED TO MENTION POSSIBLE IMPACTS TO BATTLE CREEK WATERSHED'S COSTLY SALMON RESTORATION PROJECT OR CHALLENGES TO HABITAT CONNECTIVITY ON THE WILDLIFE CORRIDOR. IN CLOSING, IT'S MY PROFESSIONAL OPINION THAT THIS PROJECT HAS THE POTENTIAL TO ADVERSELY AFFECT NEXT UP, KURT ZIMMERMAN, FOLLOWED BY LINDA RADFORD, THEN HEATHER PALZA AND FRANK PALZA. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS KURT ZIMMERMAN. I AM A LICENSED GENERAL CONTRACTOR IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA AND HAVE LIVED IN MANTON FOR THE LAST 25 YEARS. MY CONCERNS WITH THE PROJECT IS, ONE, WHERE IT'S GOING AND WHERE IT'S GOING TO BE LOCATED. BUT AS FAR AS THEY, WE ASKED THEM AT THE MEETING HOW THEY WERE GOING TO CONSTRUCT IT, AND THEY SAID THEY HAD THESE PIERS THAT THEY WERE JUST GOING TO DRIVE IN THE GROUND. WELL, ANYBODY WHO'S BEEN TO MANTON OR DUG IN MANTON KNOWS WHEN YOU, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO DRIVE A PIER INTO THE GROUND BECAUSE OF THE ROCKS. SO EVERYWHERE THOSE PIERS ARE GOING TO GO, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DIG, AND WHEN YOU DIG, YOU GENERATE SPOILS OF SOIL AND ROCKS. WHERE ARE THOSE ROCKS GOING TO GO, AND WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO DO WITH THE SOIL? ARE YOU GOING TO TRUCK THEM OUT? THE ONLY ACCESS TO THAT PROJECT SITE IS A FOUR AND A HALF MILE DIRT ROAD WHICH IS BATTLE CREEK BOTTOM ALL THE OTHER BRIDGES IN TOWN WILL NOT SUPPORT THAT [03:35:02] AMOUNT OF CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC COMING IN AND OUT OF THE AREA I DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND WITH 376 ACRES LEASED WHY THEY ARE PUTTING IT RIGHT ON THE CORNER I MEAN I HAVE MY IDEAS BECAUSE IT'S CHEAPER FOR THEM BUT THEY COULD HIDE IT AND PROPOSE IT SOMEWHERE ELSE IF THEY YOU KNOW FELT THE NEED TO UM AGAIN THE ROADS THE LAST TIME THEY DID CONSTRUCTION IN TOWN ON A DIFFERENT PROJECT THEY RUINED THAT ROAD IT'S GRADED ONCE A YEAR BY THE COUNTY AND THAT'S ALL THAT IS DONE TO IT THE ADJOINING BRIDGES COMING IN AND OUT ARE FALLING APART BETWEEN SHASTA AND TO HAMA COUNTY. ALSO, I WANT TO KNOW IF SOMETHING HAPPENS WITH THIS PROJECT, IS THE COUNTY GOING TO REQUIRE THEM TO DO A CLEANUP, OR IS IT JUST LEFT THERE FOR THE PEOPLE IN TOWN TO LOOK AT? THANK YOU. THANK YOU, KURT. NEXT UP, LINDA RADFORD, HEATHER PALTZA, FRANK PALTZA, THEN HERMAN SNOW. IF I CALLED YOUR NAME, PLEASE GET IN QUEUE. GOOD AFTERNOON. I'M JUST A CONCERNED CITIZEN OF THE MANTON COMMUNITY. I AM A RETIRED CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT OF FISH AND WILDLIFE SENIOR HATCHERY SUPERVISOR. I OVERSAW ALL THE STATE HATCHERIES IN NORTHERN CALIFORNIA, AND I WAS INVOLVED IN A LOT OF THE SURVEYS FOR PRE-STOCKING EVALUATIONS, AND THERE ARE A LOT OF LISTED AND THREATENED SPECIES WITHIN THE AREA OF THIS PROPOSED PROJECT. IN THIS PROJECT, THEY JUST HADN'T DONE THEIR DUE DILIGENCE FOR THE ENVIRONMENTAL THE BIOLOGICAL, THE HISTORICAL, AND THE CULTURAL SURVEYS, IT'S JUST WHAT THEY'VE DONE. THERE'S THREE SPECIES. THERE ARE NUMEROUS SPECIES OUT THERE ON THE FEDERAL AND THE STATE LEVEL THAT THEY HAVEN'T EVEN TOUCHED. AND THEY'RE ALL WITHIN THE CONFINES OF THIS AREA BECAUSE BATTLE CREEK IS NEARBY. SO THEY'RE IN A VERY ENVIRONMENTAL SENSITIVE AREA THAT THIS PROJECT JUST DOESN'T FIT HERE FOR THE ENVIRONMENT. PLUS IT'S RIGHT NEAR THE RESIDENTIAL AREA THAT, YOU KNOW, THESE PEOPLE ARE, THEY'RE LIVING THERE AND NOW INSTEAD OF A BACKYARD, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A SOLAR ARRAY. THAT'S JUST NOT RIGHT. THERE'S MANY RECOMMENDATIONS BY THE DEPARTMENT THAT HAVE NOT BEEN FOLLOWED. THERE'S BEEN VERY, A LOT OF RECOMMENDATIONS BY THE REGIONAL WATER QUALITY CONTROL BOARD THAT HASN'T EVEN BEEN ADDRESSED. AND THAT'S WITH THE RUNOFF AND THE NEARBY RIVER. SO YOU KNOW, FOR 8,721 PANELS IN SOMEBODY'S BACKYARD, THIS JUST ISN'T A PLACE FOR THAT. SO I HOPE YOU GUYS REJECT THIS APPROVAL FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION BECAUSE THEY DID NOT LISTEN TO THEIR EXPERTS ON THE BOARD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, LINDA. NEXT UP, HEATHER PALTZ, FOLLOWED BY FRANK PALTZ, HERMAN SNELL, THEN RICK MATHEN. IF I CALLED YOUR NAME, PLEASE GET IN QUEUE. GOOD AFTERNOON. I'M HEATHER PULSA. I LIVE DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO THIS PROPOSED PROJECT. THE ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW FOR THIS PROJECT IS INADEQUATE AND FAILS TO MEET THE STANDARDS REQUIRED UNDER CEQA. KEY PLANT LIFE WILDLIFE SPECIES HAVE NOT BEEN IDENTIFIED. I HAVE PERSONALLY OBSERVED A RING TAILED CAT CROSSING WILSON HILL AND MILKWEED. CRITICAL POLLINATOR HABITAT EXISTS 10 TO 15 FEET OFF. THE PROJECT SITE IN MY OWN YARD. THESE ARE JUST TWO EXAMPLES A PROPER REVIEW WOULD IDENTIFY MORE. THIS ALONE WARRANTS A FULL ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT. SECOND, THIS PROJECT CREATES SIGNIFICANT RISK TO MY ANIMALS. SUMMER TEMPERATURES ALREADY EXCEED 100 DEGREES. HORSES ARE HEAT SENSITIVE AND PLACING 8721 PANELS. OF 75 FEET FROM THEIR STALLS WILL INCREASE HEAT IN AN ALREADY DANGEROUS ENVIRONMENT. THIRD, THERE ARE SERIOUS CONCERNS ABOUT GROUNDWATER. MY FAMILY RELIES ENTIRELY ON A PRIVATE WELL. WHAT HAPPENS IF INSTALLATION ACTIVITIES SUCH AS THE MOUNTING SYSTEM IMPACT OR CONTAMINATE THE GROUNDWATER? THAT RISK HAS NOT BEEN PROPERLY STUDIED OR ADDRESSED. FOURTH, THE REMOVAL OF ALL TREES AND VEGETATION WILL ELIMINATE NATURAL SCREENING, LEAVING MY PROPERTY ENTIRELY. I WILL LOSE ALL PRIVACY AND THIS RAISES SECURITY CONCERNS. THIS DIRECTLY IMPACTS MY DAILY LIFE. I AM OUTSIDE MULTIPLE TIMES A DAY CARING FOR MY ANIMALS AND MAINTAINING MY PROPERTY. I WILL NOT BE ABLE TO GARDEN, [03:40:02] WORK, OR EVEN STEP OUTSIDE FOR A SIMPLE MOMENT WITHOUT BEING DOMINATED BY THIS PROJECT. THIS CREATES ONGOING AND UNACCEPTABLE STRESS. I HAVE REPEATEDLY ASKED FOR INCREASED SETBACKS. THE RESPONSE HAS BEEN NO. BECAUSE OF ECONOMIC CONVENIENCE IS NOT A LEGAL JUSTIFICATION TO IMPOSE NEXT UP, FRANK PALTZ, FOLLOWED BY HERMAN SNELL, RICK MATTSON, THEN GREG BAKER. IF I CALLED YOUR NAME, PLEASE GET IN QUEUE. GOOD MORNING, EVERYBODY. MY NAME IS FRANK PALTZ. I LIVE NEXT TO THE PROPOSED PROJECT. I RESPECTFULLY ASK YOU TO DENY THIS. CURRENT DESIGN, THE SOLAR PROJECT WILL BE BUILT JUST 35 FEET OFF MY PROPERTY LINE, AND THE FIRST PANEL ONLY BEING 75 FEET. AT THAT DISTANCE, THERE'S ESSENTIALLY NO MEANINGFUL BUFFER BETWEEN MY RURAL HOME, MY HORSE PROPERTY, AND THIS INDUSTRIAL USE. MY HOME RIGHT NOW IS WORTH ABOUT $290,000. THE PROPERTIES LOCATED THIS CLOSE TO THE LARGEST DEVELOPMENT TYPICALLY LOSE 10 TO 15 PERCENT OF THEIR VALUE. THAT MEANS I COULD LOSE BETWEEN $29,000 TO $43,000. AS SOMEONE RETIRING THIS YEAR, THAT LOSS DIRECTLY AFFECTS MY FINANCIAL SECURITY. BEYOND THE NUMBERS, THIS COMPLETELY CHANGES THE CHARACTER OF THE PROPERTY. INSTEAD OF OPEN RURAL LAND, I'LL BE LOOKING AT AN INDUSTRIAL FACILITY RIGHT NEXT DOOR. IT ALSO RAISES CONCERNS FOR MY HORSES, WHICH CAN BE SENSITIVE TO GLARE, MOVEMENT, AND UNFAMILIAR STRUCTURES. A 35-FOOT SETBACK FROM THE PROPERTY LINE IS NOT ADEQUATE. IN A RURAL RESIDENTIAL AREA, PROPERTIES LIKE MINE NEED TO AT LEAST BE 200 TO 300 FEET IN SEPARATION, ALONG WITH PROPER SCREENING, TO BE COMPATIBLE. I DO SUPPORT RENEWABLE ENERGY, BUT NOT IN A WAY THAT IT PLACES A BURDEN ON NEIGHBORING PROPERTY OWNERS. SO PLEASE DENY THE USE OF 29 0009 OR REQUIRE SIGNIFICANT GREATER SETBACKS. CAN I BE FRANK WITH Y'ALL? PUN INTENDED. IF THIS WAS 35 FEET FROM YOUR BACK DOOR AND WAS GOING TO COST YOU $40,000, WE WOULDN'T BE HERE TODAY. IT WOULDN'T HAVE GOT THIS FAR. SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY, AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU, FRANK. HERMAN SNELL, FOLLOWED BY RICK MATTSON, GREG BAKER, THEN DAVID LEDGER. HI, I'M RICK MATTSON, AND I'M THE OWNER OF THAT PROPERTY. WE'VE OWNED THAT PROPERTY FOR OVER 20 YEARS. THERE WAS A GROUP OF US THAT BOUGHT THAT, SOME OF US AFTER WE GOT OUT OF THE MILITARY. AND THERE'S A NUMBER OF US THAT ARE VETERANS THAT BOUGHT THAT PROPERTY, AND WE BOUGHT IT TO DO SOMETHING WITH THAT PROPERTY. BUT WHEN YOU HAVE A GROUP OF PEOPLE, IT'S KIND OF HARD TO MAKE A DECISION ON WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO. BUT WE'VE ALL DECIDED THAT THE SOLAR WOULD BE THE MOST BENIGN THING THAT WE COULD HAVE DONE. NOW, THE PROPERTY, THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT HOW THE PROPERTY WAS CLEARED, NOT BY CALTRANS, NO. I WORKED WITH CAL FIRE. THEY CAME IN AND CLEARED THAT PROPERTY FOR FIRE HAZARD TO OUR NEIGHBORS AND OURSELVES OUT. THAT'S WHEN THEY WENT AND MASTICATED THAT PROPERTY BEFORE WE DID THIS PROJECT. AND WHEN AESTHETICS, AESTHETICS ACCORDING TO THE LAW, IF YOU LOOK AT THE LAW AND AS A PROPERTY OWNER, YOUR PROPERTY ENDS AT YOUR PROPERTY LINE AND YOU HAVE THE AIRSPACE ABOVE YOUR PROPERTY LINE. THE VIEW INTO OUR PROPERTY IS OUR PROPERTY. YOU KNOW, IF IT WRECKS THEIR VIEW, AND IT WOULDN'T WRECK THE VIEW OF LOOKING AT MOUNT LASSEN, YOU KNOW, NOT SOMETHING 10 FOOT HIGH IS GOING TO DO THAT, EVEN IF IT'S ONLY 35 FEET AWAY FROM THE ROAD. SO, AESTHETICS, WE'VE OWNED THAT PROPERTY A LONG TIME. WE'VE GOT ONE OWNER THAT'S BEEN THERE FOREVER. HE GREW UP THERE. AND HE WATCHED ALL THESE HOUSES GET BUILT ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THAT PROPERTY, WHICH USED TO BELONG TO BARRON. BRUCE BARRON OWNED THAT PROPERTY, AND HE WATCHED ALL THAT FOLIAGE TAKEN OUT AND CLEARED OUT. AND I'M SURE THAT HE SAID, HEY, YOU KNOW, THE BACK OF THEIR HOUSE IS REALLY UGLY TO LOOK AT. ALL THOSE HOUSES ARE UGLY TO LOOK AT FROM THE BACK. AND LOOK AT ALL THE CRAP THEY'RE THROWING IN THE BACKYARD THAT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT. THANK YOU. NEXT UP, GREG BAKER, FOLLOWED BY DAVID LEDGER. HI, MY NAME IS GREG BAKER. I'M ONE OF THE OTHER PROPERTY, SUBJECT PROPERTY OWNERS, AND JUST WANTED TO ENCOURAGE YOU, THANK YOU FOR THE CONSIDERATION, TO KEEP IN MIND THAT AS OWNERS WE WERE PRETTY DILIGENT WHEN WE CAME ON LINE WITH A DEVELOPMENT PARTNER AND THE DEPTH OF THEIR BENCH AND WHAT WE'VE LOOKED AT AND FOLLOWING THE PROCESS. SO AS WE'VE DONE THAT AND WE'VE TALKED THROUGH THIS, I THINK SOMETIMES THAT'S LOST ON THE EMOTION BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT BEEN SAID TODAY. BUT ULTIMATELY, [03:45:02] WE WERE REALLY DILIGENT. WE TRIED TO BE STEWARDS OF THAT LAND FOR, AS RICK SAID, FOR OVER 20 YEARS. AND WE SEE THE SAME THING HERE IN HOW WE'VE APPROACHED THIS AS AN OWNERSHIP GROUP. SO I WOULD TRY TO ENCOURAGE YOU AS A BOARD TO LOOK AT US AND WHAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS RECOMMENDED AND THE STEPS WE HAVE GONE THROUGH WITH A VERY WELL-REGARDED DEVELOPMENT PARTNER IN THIS SPACE. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THAT WAS OUR LAST SPEAKER, CHAIR. DAVID IS THE LAST SPEAKER. OH, I APOLOGIZE. COME ON UP. GOOD AFTERNOON, SUPERVISORS. MY NAME IS DAVID LEDGER. I'M REPRESENTING MYSELF AND ALSO THE SHASTA GROUP OF SIERRA CLUB. ON THIS PROJECT, THERE WERE TWO COMMISSIONERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION THAT WERE VERY MUCH OPPOSED TO THIS. THEY'RE BOTH FORMER, WORKED IN FORESTRY, AND THEY'RE VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE IMPORTANCE OF OAK WOODLANDS. AND SO THEY WERE ADAMANT IN THEIR OPPOSITION. ALSO, THE INITIAL BIOLOGICAL SURVEY, AS A FRIEND OF MINE WHO DOES CONSULTING SAID IT WAS JUNK, AND I AGREE WITH THAT ASSESSMENT. ASIDE FROM NUMEROUS MISIDENTIFICATION OF PLANTS, SHE SAID THERE WERE NO MONARCH, NO MILKWEEDS ON THE PROJECT SITE. THE SECOND PEOPLE CAME IN AND THEY SAID THERE WERE MILKWEEDS THERE. APPARENTLY A NEIGHBOR HAS THEM IN THEIR YARD. THEY'RE EXTREMELY IMPORTANT FOR MONARCH BUTTERFLIES. AND MONARCH BUTTERFLIES ARE PROTECTED UNDER CEQA. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GOT MY LETTER, BUT I PUT THE RELEVANT SECTION OF CEQA WHERE THEY'RE PROTECTED. IF A SPECIES IS SUBJECT TO EXTINCTION, OF WHICH THE U.S. FISH AND WILDLIFE SERVICE SAYS THE WESTERN POPULATION OF MONARCH BUTTERFLIES ARE SUBJECT TO EXTINCTION, THEN THEY ARE A PROTECTED SPECIES. SO A BIOLOGICAL SURVEY SHOULD BE DONE, A SPECIFIC ONE FOR THE MONARCH. FOR THE MILKWEED WHICH IS IMPORTANT FOR THE LARVAE TO LIVE OFF OF. THE CITY OF READING, THEY HAD ANOTHER PROJECT COME THROUGH. I SURVEYED THE PROJECT AND I FOUND MILKWEEDS ALL OVER AND THEY DID A SURVEY AND THEY FOUND A THOUSAND MILKWEED PLANTS. ALSO, THEY IGNORED, I FEEL, THE CDFW LETTER. ALSO, I ASKED FOR APPROVED MINUTES OF THE MEETING OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND NUMBER PROVIDED TO ME I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE THERE SO THAT'S ANOTHER ISSUE. THE WETLAND DELINEATION THAT THEY HAD WAS COMPLETELY INADEQUATE. IT WAS DONE IN JUNE AND SO THANK YOU, DAVID. ALL RIGHT. SEEING NO FURTHER COMMENTS, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND BRING THE MATTER BACK BEFORE THE BOARD FOR DISCUSSION. ALL RIGHT. IT'S MY DISTRICT, SO I WILL START THIS THING OUT. SO I'VE BEEN TO PRETTY MUCH ALL THE MEETINGS, EVERY MEETING I COULD BE AT ANYWAY, SO I WAS THERE FROM, I DON'T KNOW, DAY ONE, I THINK, THE FIRST MEETING WE HAD AT SWEET SHOOTS IN MANTON. SO I LISTENED TO, I KNOW I'VE GOTTEN ALL YOUR GUYS' E-MAILS, I'VE GOTTEN ALL YOUR LETTERS, I'VE HEARD IT ALL. HEATHER ACTUALLY INVITED ME OUT THERE. TO HER PLACE AND THEN LIKE I TOLD YOU IN THE EMAIL IT'S LIKE I I'VE HEARD YOU ALL I'VE GOT IT ALL I MEAN I'VE LISTENED TO IT ALL AND AS I TOLD YOU IN MANTON YOU KNOW MY OPINION IN THAT ROOM WAS THE LEAST VALUABLE OPINION IN THE WHOLE ROOM BECAUSE MY JOB AS A SUPERVISOR AND A REPRESENTATIVE OF YOU IS TO REPRESENT YOU SO EVEN THOUGH I BELIEVE THAT THIS THIS THEY HAVE COVERED MITIGATED JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING AND I REALLY DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO BE NEARLY AS BAD AS YOU THINK IT WILL BE I TRULY DON'T. UM AS FAR AS WALKING OUT LAST AND AGAIN THE HIGHEST PEAK AT THE TOP OF THE ONE OF THE WHICH SOLAR PANELS LIKE FIFTEEN FEET SO BUT WITH THAT BEING SAID COM IT IS IN MY DISTRICT AND YOU GUYS ARE MY CONSTITUENTS SO IF THIS WAS IN ANOTHER DISTRICT I WOULD BE VOTING FOR BECAUSE I DO THINK THAT THEY HAVE MITIGATED JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING THE NON GLARE REFLECTED PANELS THAT YOU KNOW THAT THAT THE WATER RUNOFF IS JUST SIMPLE RAINWATER COME OFF A SOLAR PANELS LIKE THIS SLUDGE ON ENTERING THAT IS WIPING OFF THERE IF THIS WAS IN SUPERVISOR HARMON'S DISTRICT, I WOULD DEFINITELY PROBABLY UPHOLD THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S DECISION. AND THAT IS WHAT WE ARE VOTING ON HERE TODAY IS WHETHER THE PLANNING COMMISSION, IS THAT CORRECT, COUNCIL LARMER. SO WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON TODAY IS NOT NECESSARILY TO APPROVE THE PROJECT, BUT TO UPHOLD THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S DECISION THAT APPROVED THE PROJECT. SO I, FOR ONE, AM GOING TO HAVE TO REPRESENT YOU BECAUSE I'VE HEARD MUCH MORE FROM NEGATIVES FROM THE COMMUNITY. I'VE RECEIVED LIKE TWO LETTERS IN SUPPORT OF THE PROJECT. SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I'M GOING TO HAVE TO VOTE NO, BUT SIMPLY BECAUSE, AND I'M GOING AGAINST MY OWN PLANNING COMMISSIONER, SO THAT'S PROBABLY WHERE I'M AT. SO SUPERVISOR CRYE. YEAH, I'LL JUST MAKE IT BRIEF. I'M GOING TO STICK WITH WHAT OUR PLANNING COMMISSIONERS HAVE SAID. I THINK PRIVATE PROPERTY RIGHTS ARE VERY IMPORTANT. THAT'S REALLY NOT THE ISSUE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. [03:50:01] WE'RE REALLY JUST TALKING ABOUT IT WAS THE PROCESS FOLLOWED CORRECTLY AND IT LOOKS LIKE FOR EVERYTHING THAT I'VE READ AND UNDERSTOOD FROM THE STAFF REPORT AND WHAT I'VE HEARD TODAY THAT SEEMS GOOD ENOUGH FOR ME SO I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE AND UPHOLD THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S DECISION I'LL SECOND THAT I HAVE A MOTION BY SUPERVISOR CRYE AND A SECOND BY SUPERVISOR PLUMBER SUPERVISOR LONG THANK YOU CHAIR I DID A LOT OF RESEARCH ON THIS AND MET WITH MY DESIGNATED PLANNING COMMISSIONER, MET WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, AND HAVE DONE A LOT OF RESEARCH ON THIS. AND I THINK I APPRECIATE THE OBJECTIONS BY MEMBERS TO THIS. I THINK WE'RE COMING DOWN TO OF VOTE AS TO WHETHER WE SUPPORT OUR PLANNING COMMISSION AND THEIR PROCESS AND THEIR VOTE THAT'S REALLY THE ONLY THING WE'RE DOING IS AND WE'RE NOT TRYING TO SAY ANYTHING ABOUT PERSONAL OPINIONS BUT DID WAS A FAIR HEARING CONDUCTED WAS THERE ANY KIND OF ABUSE INVOLVED IN IT AND THIS IS DIFFERENT THAN SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT HAVE COME BEFORE OUR BOARD BEFORE WHERE THEY REQUIRED A REZONING APPLICATION AND SOME OF THOSE TYPES OF ISSUES THAT WE DID HAVE TO WEIGH IN ON. THIS ONE IS SIMPLY WHETHER THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOLLOWED PROTOCOL, CONDUCTED A FAIR HEARING, AND HEARD THE INTERESTS OF EVERYONE. SO I'M GOING TO BE VOTING TO UPHOLD OUR PLANNING DEPARTMENT'S DECISION. SUPERVISOR PLUMMER. YES, I JUST WANTED TO OFFER TO THAT, YOU KNOW, I CAME OUT TO HEATHER AND FRANK'S PLACE, AND I DO APPRECIATE THE AESTHETICS COMMENT IN TERMS OF HAVING THIS IN YOUR BACKYARD. WHEN, YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT THREE THINGS IN TERMS OF SETBACK LENGTH, IN TERMS OF SOME LINE OF SIGHT, YOU KNOW, LANDSCAPING. AND MY PREFERENCE WOULD BE FOR THOSE THINGS TO BE INCORPORATED IN TERMS OF THIS SPECIFIC DECISION. MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT WE'RE WE'RE NOT ABLE TO KIND OF SAY, OH, LET'S PROPOSE THAT, YOU KNOW, SOME BUSHES ARE PUT IN THE FRONT THERE IN FRONT OF THAT CHAIN LINK FENCE FACING THE NORTH SIDE, THAT WE'RE REALLY EVALUATING WHETHER WE THINK THAT THE CURRENT DECISION REGARDING THE ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW IS SUFFICIENT. AND IN THAT SCENARIO, I FEEL THAT IT WAS BASED ON BOTH THE REALLY EXTENSIVE STAFF REPORT AND ADDITIONAL CONVERSATIONS. ALL RIGHT, CAN WE HAVE THE ANYTHING SUPERVISOR PLUMBER OR SUPERVISOR HERMAN? OKAY. I KNOW NOBODY EVER WANTS IT IN THEIR BACKYARD. I PUT SOLAR PANELS DOWN IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE. DIDN'T REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. THAT'S WHAT I HAD TO LOOK AT. BUT I THINK WE ALL GOT TO MAKE TOUGH DECISIONS ABOUT DOING SOMETHING FOR POWER. I KIND OF WISH THEY WOULDN'T BE TAKING OUT ALL THE CODE. THE HYDRO PLANTS THAT ARE ALL IN PLACE UP THERE. I'M NOT SURE WHY WE'RE DOING THAT. BUT THEY GOT TO GO SOMEWHERE. I WISH THAT YOU GUYS WOULD OFFER SOMETHING TO THE LOCALS, THAT THEY WOULD GET SOME KIND OF REBATE BACK ON THEIR MONTHLY POWER BILLS. THAT WOULD MAKE IT A LITTLE EASIER FOR THEM TO SWALLOW IT. OKAY, THAT'S ALL. I JUST WANTED TO SAY A LITTLE SOMETHING. MS. BLANKENSHIP, CAN WE HAVE A ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE, STARTING WITH SUPERVISOR PLUMMER. SUPERVISOR PLUMMER? YES. SUPERVISOR CRYE? YES. SUPERVISOR KALLSTROM? [CLOSED SESSION ANNOUNCEMENT] NO. SUPERVISOR HARMON? YES. AND SUPERVISOR LONG? YES. THAT'S A FOUR TO ONE. ALL RIGHT. SO MOVING ON. SORRY, GUYS. MOVING ON TO CLOSED SESSION. DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? WE DO, CHAIR. WE HAVE ONE REQUEST TO SPEAK. DOLORES LUCERO, COME ON UP. ON YOUR CLOSED SESSION ITEM HERE, I SEE THAT YOU HAVE MULTIPLE LAWSUITS HERE PENDING. HOW COME I DON'T SEE THE CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT REGARDING VOTER RIGHTS? OH YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT. IT'S NOT ON THERE YET. THAT WILL BE THOSE 500 SIGNATURES THAT PEOPLE SIGN FOR THE PETITION. I'M SURE THAT WILL BE COMING [REPORT OF CLOSED SESSION ACTIONS] NEXT. THANK YOU AND WITH THAT WE WILL RECESS TO CLOSED SESSION. MR. CHAIRMAN, WE MET ON ITEM R6 IN CLOSED SESSION. THE BOARD GRANTED RETAINING [03:55:03] OUTSIDE COUNSEL IN THE MATTER OF FREDERICK JAMES PHILLIPS. APPOINTING OUTSIDE COUNSEL ON DEFENDING THE CLAIM AND CHRISTOPHER LEEPER VERSUS COUNTY OF SHASTA AT ALL. NO FURTHER ACTION. ALL RIGHT. WITH THAT, THE MEETING IS ADJOURNED. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.