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[CALL TO ORDER]
WELCOME TO THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE SHASTA COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS. IT'S TUESDAY, MARCH 10TH, AND THE TIME IS 9 A.M. ALL BOARD MEMBERS ARE WITH US TODAY, EVEN THOUGH ONE OF THEM IS NOT IN HIS CHAIR, INCLUDING CEO DAVE RICKERT, COUNTY COUNCIL JOE LARMER, AND FROM THE CLERK OF THE BOARD, MARCY WENSTEAD, MIRANDA ANGEL, AND IN THE FOYER, LISA TIERNEY. WE ENCOURAGE THOSE WISHING TO PARTICIPATE IN PUBLIC COMMENT, FILL OUT A SPEAKER REQUEST CARD AND SUBMIT IT TO THE CLERK IN THE FOYER.SPEAKER REQUEST CARDS MUST BE SUBMITTED TO THE CLERK BEFORE PUBLIC COMMENT FOR EACH REGULAR ITEM BEGINS.
WITH THAT, I'LL TURN THINGS OVER TO MS. ANGEL. THANK YOU.
THROUGH THE CHAIR, I'D LIKE TO REMIND EVERYONE IN ATTENDANCE TODAY OF THE BOARD ROOM RULES OF ORDER AS OUTLINED IN ADMIN POLICY 1-101, WHICH CAN BE FOUND ONLINE THROUGH THE CLERK OF THE BOARD WEBSITE. THIS POLICY INCLUDES SIGNAGE RESTRICTIONS, ATTENDEE SEATING, AND OVERALL CONDUCT TO ENSURE BUSINESS IS DONE IN AN ORDERLY FASHION AND THAT ALL HAVE AN EQUAL OPPORTUNITY TO OBSERVE AND PARTICIPATE.
UNLESS ADDRESSING THE BOARD, ALL THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE SHALL REMAIN SEATED IN THE CHAIRS PROVIDED.
STANDING ALONG THE BACK WALL OF THE BOARDROOM IS ACCEPTABLE SO LONG AS NO PERSON BLOCKS THE INGRESS OR EGRESS. MEMBERS OF THE MEDIA WHO WANT TO OBSERVE, RECORD, OR OTHERWISE DOCUMENT A BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEETING ARE REQUESTED TO SET UP EQUIPMENT FROM THE DESIGNATED AREA ALONG THE SOUTH WINDOWS.
SHASTA COUNTY REMAINS COMMITTED TO CONDUCTING BUSINESS IN A PROFESSIONAL AND ACCESSIBLE ENVIRONMENT. WE KINDLY ASK THAT ALL ATTENDEES ADHERE TO THESE RULES. I DO HAVE A FEW ANNOUNCEMENTS REGARDING TODAY'S AGENDA. ITEM C4 REGARDING APPOINTMENTS TO THE ASSESSMENT APPEALS BOARD HAS BEEN PULLED FOR DISCUSSION BY SUPERVISOR CRYE, AND ITEM C7 REGARDING AN AGREEMENT WITH MEDECO, INC. HAS BEEN PULLED FOR DISCUSSION BY SUPERVISOR PLUMMER. THOSE WISHING TO PROVIDE PUBLIC COMMENT ON ANY ITEMS PULLED FROM CONSENT MUST SUBMIT A SEPARATE SPEAKER REQUEST CARD TO THE CLERK BEFORE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE ITEM BEGINS.
WITH THAT, CHAIR, I'LL TURN THINGS BACK OVER TO YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MS. ANGEL.
TODAY'S INVOCATION IS BY ARLEN D. RESNICKI, PUBLIC SAFETY CHAPLAINCY OF SHASTA COUNTY. HE IS HERE TODAY, AND THIS WILL BE FOLLOWED BY THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE BY SUPERVISOR LONG, IF I COULD ASK EVERYBODY TO STAND. GOOD MORNING, AND THANK YOU. LET'S ALL LOOK TO THE LORD THIS MORNING. THANK YOU, LORD, FOR BEING WITH US HERE THIS MORNING AND GIVING US THE ABILITY TO GATHER TOGETHER TO DISCUSS IMPORTANT BUSINESS.
WE GIVE YOU HONOR AND GLORY FOR THE MANY BLESSINGS AND THE INDIVIDUAL GRACE THAT YOU SHOW US. WE LIFT UP THOSE WHO ARE PHYSICALLY UNABLE TO ATTEND THIS MEETING AND ASK YOUR BLESSINGS ON THOSE WHO ARE ABSENT. AS WELL AS THOSE SERVING OUR COUNTRY, BOTH HERE AND ABROAD. THANK YOU AS WELL FOR THE LAND OF FREEDOM IN WHICH WE LIVE, ALLOWING US TO EMBRACE YOU, LORD, DESPITE OUR SINFUL ACTIONS, SPEECH, AND THOUGHTS. WE ASK FORGIVENESS FOR NOT GLORIFYING YOU AS WE OUGHT. FATHER, I PRAY YOUR HAND OF GUIDANCE AND WISDOM BE ON EACH OF THESE ELECTED OFFICIALS THIS MORNING. AND ALWAYS FOR THE DEPUTY CLERK OF THE BOARD AND THE CLERK OF THE BOARD'S OFFICE, OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT AND FIREFIGHTERS, FOR THE VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS AND PERSONNEL OF CITY AND COUNTY GOVERNMENT, AND ALL THE MEN AND WOMEN THAT MAKE THIS GATHERING POSSIBLE.
WE REJOICE THAT THESE FOLKS HAVE THE HEART AND DESIRE TO SERVE AND THE ABILITY TO DO THE NECESSARY WORK IN AND AROUND OUR COUNTY. GIVE THEM THE VISION AND KNOWLEDGE TO SERVE EFFECTIVELY. A SENSE OF WELFARE FOR THE TRUE NEEDS OF OUR PEOPLE, AND A THIRST FOR JUSTICE, RIGHTEOUSNESS, AND CONFIDENCE. WE PRAY FOR THEIR PERSONAL JOY AND PEACE IN THEIR LIVES AND THE LIVES OF THEIR LOVED ONES. MAY THE AGENDA SET BEFORE YOU TODAY BE A RICH BLESSING FOR THE COMMON GOOD OF ALL RESIDENTS OF SHASTA COUNTY. I PRAY WE ALL HAVE EARS TO LISTEN AND BE SLOW IN RESPONSE, GIVING THOUGHT AND CONSIDERATION TO THOSE WHOM THEY ADDRESS. WE ASK THIS ALL IN JESUS' NAME, AND WE ALL SAY TOGETHER, AMEN. PLEASE JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU, CHAPLAIN, AND THANK YOU, SUPERVISOR LONG. MOVING ON
[R1 Adopt a resolution which recognizes Charlene Osborn, Clerk/Elections Specialist III, with the Shasta County Clerk & Registrar of Voters Office as Shasta County’s Employee of the Month for March 2026.]
TO R1, WHERE ADOPT A RESOLUTION WHICH RECOGNIZES CHARLENE OSBORNE, CLERK, ELECTIONS SPECIALIST. 3, WITH THE SHASTA COUNTY CLERK AND REGISTER OF VOTERS OFFICE, AS SHASTA COUNTY'S EMPLOYEE OF THE MONTH FOR MARCH 2026.AND WE HAVE MR. CURTIS IN HERE. THANK YOU, BOARD.
CHARLENE OSBORNE STARTED WORKING FOR SHASTA COUNTY REGISTERED VOTERS BACK IN 2012. SHE'S BEEN THERE 14 YEARS AND HAS WORKED HERSELF UP THROUGH THE DEPARTMENT THE WHOLE TIME. SHE'S A WEALTH OF KNOWLEDGE, MAKES HERSELF AVAILABLE TO ALL WHO NEEDS ASSISTANCE, AND THAT INCLUDES NEW TEAM MEMBERS IN THE VOTER REGISTRATION PROCESS. AND HELPING ME ALONG THE WAY, TOO, BECAUSE I HAD SOME CATCHING UP TO DO.
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DURING THE LAST ELECTION, THERE WERE SIGNIFICANT CHANGES WHERE WE INCREASED OBSERVATION, AND THAT'S AFFECTED THE SIGNATURE VERIFICATION PROCESS BECAUSE WE HAD TO GO SLOWER SO PEOPLE COULD SEE WHAT WE'RE DOING. SHE ADAPTED, VOTED THE CHANGES, NEVER COMPLAINED, AND STILL MAINTAINED EXCELLENT CUSTOMER SERVICE.IN THE LAST ELECTION, SHE PROCESSED OVER 60,000 SIGNATURES FOR VERIFICATION, AND SHE TOOK TIME TO CHECK EVERY VALID SIGNATURE AGAINST PAST ONES. AND CONSTANTLY PERFORMED ADDITIONAL RESEARCH WHEN NECESSARY.
FOR MATH PEOPLE LIKE ME, THAT MEANS SHE HAS PROCESSED OVER 1.5 MILLION SIGNATURES FOR SHASTA COUNTY'S ELECTION DEPARTMENT. SHE'S METICULOUS IN HER WORK, NEVER COMPLAINS, AND IS AN ESSENTIAL PART OF SHASTA COUNTY'S ELECTION DEPARTMENT. CHARLIE. EARL V.
CURTIS. WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK? YOU DON'T HAVE TO.
NO, JUST WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR THE AWARD. SO I WANT TO THANK MY PARENTS TOO FOR HAVING ME PULL LOTS OF WEEDS AS A CHILD, SO I'M USED TO DOING THINGS REPETITIVELY, OVER AND OVER. ALL RIGHT.
SUPERVISOR LONG, WOULD YOU LIKE TO READ THAT PROCLAMATION? THANK YOU, CHAIR. IT'S MY HONOR TO READ THIS. AND SO.
WHEREAS, THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS OF THE COUNTY OF SHASTA HAS ADOPTED THE SHASTA COUNTY EMPLOYEE RECOGNITION PROGRAM TO IDENTIFY EXCEPTIONAL EMPLOYEES WHO DESERVE TO BE RECOGNIZED AND HONORED FOR THEIR CONTRIBUTION TO COUNTY SERVICE. AND WHEREAS SUCH RECOGNITION IS GIVEN TO EMPLOYEES MEETING THE CRITERIA OF THE PROGRAM, NAMELY EXCEPTIONAL CUSTOMER SERVICE, PROFESSIONALISM, HIGH ETHICAL STANDARDS, INITIATIVE, INNOVATION, TEAMWORK, PRODUCTIVITY. AND SERVICE AS A ROLE MODEL FOR OTHER PUBLIC EMPLOYEES.
AND WHEREAS, THE SHASTA COUNTY EMPLOYEE RECOGNITION COMMITTEE HAS CONSIDERED ALL CURRENT NOMINATIONS FOR THE SHASTA COUNTY EMPLOYEE OF THE MONTH. AND WHEREAS, CHARLENE OSBORNE STARTED WORKING FOR THE CLERK AND REGISTRAR OF VOTERS IN 2012 AS A CLERK ELECTIONS SPECIALIST 1.
SINCE THEN, SHE HAS RISEN THROUGH THE DEPARTMENT TO HER CURRENT POSITION AS A CLERK.
WITH HER MORE THAN 14 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE, CHARLENE HAS A WEALTH OF KNOWLEDGE AND MAKES HERSELF AVAILABLE TO ALL WHO NEED ASSISTANCE.
THIS INCLUDES TRAINING NEW TEAM MEMBERS IN THE VOTER REGISTRATION PROCESS.
DURING THE LAST ELECTION, THERE WERE SIGNIFICANT CHANGES TO THE PROCESS TO ALLOW FOR INCREASED OBSERVATION, WHICH AFFECTED THE SIGNATURE VERIFICATION PROCESS. AND CHARLENE ADAPTED WELL TO THESE CHANGES, WHILE STILL MAINTAINING EXCELLENT CUSTOMER SERVICE TO VOTERS. CHARLENE ANCHORED THE VOTER REGISTRATION TEAM, PROCESSING OVER 60,000 SIGNATURE VERIFICATIONS, TAKING TIME TO CHECK EACH BALLOT SIGNATURE AGAINST THE PAST ONES, AND CONSTANTLY PERFORMING ADDITIONAL RESEARCH WHEN A SIGNATURE WAS QUESTIONABLE.
CHARLENE'S ATTENTION TO DETAIL AND METICULOUS WORK ETHIC MAKES HER AN ESSENTIAL PART OF KEEPING VOTER ROLLS UP TO DATE AND ACCURATE. THESE ARE THE SAME CHARACTERISTICS THAT MAKE HER SUCCESSFUL IN PROCESSING THOUSANDS OF PETITION SIGNATURES WITHIN A LIMITED AMOUNT OF TIME, A PROCESS THAT IS TEDIOUS AND TIME-CONSUMING, MAKING HER AN ASSET TO THE DEPARTMENT AS WELL AS THE WHOLE COMMUNITY. WHEN WORKING WITH MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, CHARLENE IS ALWAYS PROFESSIONAL, KIND, ATTENTIVE, AND INFORMATIVE. CHARLENE TAKES THE TIME TO EXPLAIN DEPARTMENT PROCEDURES TO QUESTIONING MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, ENSURING THEY ARE CONFIDENT IN THE STEPS REQUIRED.
CHARLENE ADAPTS QUICKLY TO CHANGING JOB DUTIES, ALWAYS READY TO MOMENTARILY DIVERT FROM THE TASK SHE IS PERFORMING.
TO ASSIST OTHER MEMBERS OF HER TEAM AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHEN THEY NEED ASSISTANCE.
DURING THE PAST ELECTION, THERE WERE TIMES WHEN ALL STAFF WERE BUSY ATTENDING TO VOTERS. AND CHARLENE WOULD IMMEDIATELY STOP SIGNATURE VERIFICATION AND DIVERT HER ATTENTION TO ASSIST THE TEAM WITH PROVIDING CUSTOMER SERVICE TO VOTERS. AS A RESULT OF HER EFFORTS AND THE EFFORTS OF THE VOTER REGISTRATION TEAM, WAIT TIMES FOR VOTERS WERE KEPT LOW. WITH PROCEDURAL CHANGES CAN COME ADDED STRESS, AND CHARLENE IS RESPECTED BY THE TEAM SHE WORKS FOR, WITH HER PERSONALITY JUST AS MUCH AS HER KNOWLEDGE BASE, AS SHE FREQUENTLY MAKES THE ENTIRE DEPARTMENT LAUGH WITH HER QUICK WIT AND CHARM.
THROUGH IT ALL, CHARLENE WORKS WELL UNDER PRESSURE, WITHOUT SACRIFICING ACCURACY, CONSISTENTLY COMPLETING THE WORKLOAD OF TWO OR THREE EMPLOYEES.
CHARLENE IS AN INCREDIBLE ASSET TO THE SHASTA COUNTY ELECTIONS OFFICE, AND THEY ARE FORTUNATE TO HAVE HER AS PART OF A DEPARTMENT THAT REPRESENTS
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THE VOICE OF THE COMMUNITY.THE KNOWLEDGE THAT CHARLENE PROVIDES IS INVALUABLE AND MAKES THE DEPARTMENT STRONGER, WHILE MAKING LIFE EASIER FOR HER TEAM AND SHASTA COUNTY CITIZENS. DESPITE PROCEDURAL CHANGES, INCREASED WORKLOAD, AND CONSTANT INTERRUPTION, CHARLENE CONTINUES TO PERFORM AT AN EXCEPTIONAL LEVEL. AND IS AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT EVERY PUBLIC EMPLOYEE SHOULD STRIVE FOR.
FOR THE REASONS STATED ABOVE, THE EMPLOYEE RECOGNITION COMMITTEE RECOMMENDS CHARLENE OSBORNE, CLERK, ELECTION SPECIALIST 3, IN THE SHASTA COUNTY ELECTIONS OFFICE, BE SELECTED AS EMPLOYEE OF THE MONTH FOR MARCH OF 2026. NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED THAT. CHARLENE OSBORNE, CLERK, ELECTION SPECIALIST 3 IN THE SHASTA COUNTY CLERK ELECTIONS OFFICE, IS HEREBY NAMED SHASTA COUNTY EMPLOYEE OF THE MONTH FOR MARCH 2026. AND I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT THIS RESOLUTION.
OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION BY SUPERVISOR LONG, A SECOND BY SUPERVISOR CRYE.
BEFORE WE TAKE THAT VOTE, IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? YES, CHAIR, WE HAVE ONE SPEAKER. OKAY. LAURA LUCERO.
GOOD MORNING TO EVERYBODY HERE WHO'S ATTENDING THE MEETING.
TODAY IS SUPPOSED TO BE A SPECIAL DAY FOR CHARLENE. AND TO RECOGNIZE THAT SHE DOES A GREAT JOB IN THE ELECTION DEPARTMENT, AND SHE'S BEEN THERE FOR 15 YEARS, ALL OF HER HARD WORK.
BUT I, AS A CITIZEN, MY CONCERN IS, AND CONGRATULATIONS, CHARLENE, AND MY CONCERN IS THAT SHE HAD TO MAKE SOME CHANGES AND TOLERATE EVERYTHING THAT MR. CLINT CURTIS HAS BEEN DOING IN THE ELECTION DEPARTMENT.
AND IT'S ICE SADLY, HAVE TO SAY SHE HAS TO. THERE'S NO OTHER CHOICE FOR HER TO DO.
IT'S TO DO WHAT HE TELLS HER TO DO.
FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, HE DOESN'T LIKE PEOPLE WITH KNOWLEDGE OR WISDOM BECAUSE HE FEELS THREATENED BY THAT.
EITHER YOU DO WHAT HE SAYS OR HE FIRES YOU. SO BE CAREFUL TO THOSE WHO HAVE KNOWLEDGE AND WISDOM. THANK YOU. AND WITH THAT, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND TAKE THE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. AYE. PASSES 5-0. I BELIEVE, CHARLENE, I BELIEVE SUPERVISOR LONG HAS SOME ITEMS FOR YOU. OKAY. THIS IS THE GOOD PART, RIGHT? LET'S GET THIS ROLLING, RIGHT? YEAH, EXACTLY.
OKAY, SO? THIS INCLUDES A $30 AMAZON GIFT CERTIFICATE DONATED BY THE DEPARTMENT HEAD FORUM, A $20 DUTCH BROTHERS GIFT CERTIFICATE DONATED BY THE SHERIFF'S ADMINISTRATION ASSOCIATION, A $35 REDDING PUBLIC MARKET GIFT CERTIFICATE DONATED BY THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, AND A $25 GIFT.
CERTIFICATE DONATED BY THE SHASTA COUNTY VETERANS AFFILIATED COUNCIL. AND I'LL GIVE THAT TO YOU. AND THEN WE
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HAVE. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU AND CONGRATULATIONS, CHARLENE.[R2 Adopt a resolution commending Sheriff's Office Deputy K-9 Toni for her service to Shasta County and honoring her discharge from service (Sponsored by Supervisor Long).]
MOVING ON, R2, ADOPT A RESOLUTION COMMENDING SHERIFF'S OFFICE DEPUTY K-9 TONY FOR HER SERVICE TO SHASTA COUNTY AND HONORING HER DISCHARGE FROM SERVICE. THIS IS SPONSORED BY SUPERVISOR LONG.THANK YOU, CHAIR. THIS IS QUITE AN HONOR FOR BOTH HANDLER, KYLIE, AND HER K-9 TONY.
HAVING SERVED AS A FORMER CANINE OFFICER MYSELF, I KNOW WHAT THAT SACRIFICE TAKES TO TRAIN A DOG, TO WORK WITH A DOG, AND TO PRESENT.
AND AT THIS TIME, I WOULD LOVE TO CALL UP SHERIFF JOHNSON TO MAKE THE... THERE YOU ARE. I LAST SAW YOU BACK IN THE BACK. THANK YOU, SHERIFF. THANK YOU. I'M DOING THIS JUST FOR FUN BECAUSE I DON'T REALLY NEED TO BRING IT UP. CAN I GET KYLIE AND TONY UP FRONT, PLEASE? WELL, THANK YOU, CHAIR, SUPERVISORS. THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS A SUCCESSFUL CANINE WITHOUT A GOOD HANDLER, AND CONSEQUENTLY, THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS A SUCCESSFUL HANDLER WITHOUT A GOOD CANINE. IT IS, IN FACT, A TEAM, AND THE TEAM IS CAREFULLY SELECTED, HIGHLY TRAINED.
SKILLED AND PUT TOGETHER OUT IN THE COMMUNITY TO SERVE AS A TEAM. AND SOMETIMES THOSE TEAM MATCHUPS WORK, AND SOMETIMES THOSE DON'T. AND WHAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU IS AN EXEMPLARY CASE OF A TEAM WHO HAS DONE EXTREMELY WELL FOR THE COMMUNITY AND FOR THIS AGENCY. ALTHOUGH TONY IS BEING RETIRED MAYBE A LITTLE BIT EARLY, IT IS A BUSINESS DECISION.
BECAUSE KYLIE HAS BEEN IN THE MAJOR CRIMES UNIT AND SERVED HER TIME IN THERE. ALONGSIDE HER WAS TONY HELPING HER MAKE THOSE CASES. AND NOW KYLIE IS GOING BACK TO PATROL, AND TONY GETS THE LUXURY OF ENJOYING RETIREMENT A LITTLE BIT EARLIER THAN PROBABLY NORMAL. THERE'S NO SECRET THAT I'M A LITTLE PARTIAL TO THE FLOPPY-EARED LABRADORS, WHICH ARE THE BEST DOGS ON PLANET EARTH. AND WHEN WE PUT THEM IN A WORKING CONDITIONS LAW ENFORCEMENT, THEY PERFORM EXCEPTIONALLY WELL, NOT ONLY IN DOING THEIR DUTIES OF DETECTION, BUT ALSO AS A PUBLIC RELATIONS TYPE OF CONNECTION WITH THE COMMUNITY. AND KYLIE AND TONY HAVE DONE SO MANY OF THOSE DEPLOYMENTS, AND SO MANY, BOTH PR DEMONSTRATIONS AND CONNECTIONS WITH KIDS AND VICTIMS, AS WELL AS MAKING CASES ON PREDATORS AND EVIDENCE RECOVERY FOR US. SO IT'S HARD TO HAVE HER AND TONY RETIRE AS A TEAM. WILL TONY RETIRE AS PART OF THE TEAM? THE LEVEL OF RESPECT THAT KYLIE AND TONY HAVE EARNED IS EVIDENT BY THE NUMEROUS FOLKS YOU SEE LINED ALONG THE BOARD CHAMBERS TODAY.
ALL COMING OUT TO WISH THEM WELL. AND TO CONGRATULATE HIM. SO I THANK YOU, BOARD, FOR TAKING THE TIME AND HONORING THEM AND SEEING TONY OFF INTO HER GREAT YEARS LEFT WITH KYLIE. SHE'LL BE RETIRED TO KYLIE. KYLIE WILL KEEP TONY AND LIVE WITH TONY FOR THE REST OF TONY'S YEARS.
SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH, KYLIE. THANK YOU FOR ALL THE HARD WORK WITH TONY. THANK YOU, SIR. DO YOU WANT ME TO MAKE A MOTION? THANK YOU, SHERIFF. APPRECIATE THAT PRESENTATION AND GOOD JOB.
APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE AND YOU'LL BE WITH THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AND YOUR DOG WILL ENJOY RETIREMENT. THAT'S AWESOME. SO I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ADOPT THIS RESOLUTION HONORING CANINE TONY FOR HER SERVICE TO SHASTA COUNTY. ALL RIGHT.
SUPERVISOR HARMON SECONDED IT.
WE GOT A MOTION BY SUPERVISOR LONG, SECONDED BY SUPERVISOR HARMON. DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS, MS. ANGEL? NO, CHAIR, WE DO NOT. OKAY.
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AND WITH THAT, WE'LL TAKE THE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. PASSES 5-0.LET'S TAKE A PICTURE. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, KYLIE. THANK YOU, TONY. THANK YOU, SHERIFF, AND ALL YOUR STAFF. OKAY, MOVING ON. THAT'S A HARD ACT TO FOLLOW,
[R3 Receive an update from the County Executive Officer on County issues and consider action on specific legislation related to Shasta County’s legislative platform and receive Supervisors’ reports on countywide issues.]
BUT WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO R3. RECEIVE AN UPDATE FROM THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE OFFICER ON COUNTY ISSUES AND CONSIDER ACTION ON SPECIFIC LEGISLATION RELATED TO SHASTA COUNTY'S LEGISLATIVE PLATFORM. AND RECEIVE SUPERVISOR'S REPORTS ON COUNTYWIDE ISSUES. CEO RECORD.GOOD MORNING, CHAIRMAN KELSTROM, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, DAVE RICKERT, COUNTY EXECUTIVE OFFICER, REPORTING. FIRST, GOOD NEWS FROM THE U.S. DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT. THE SHASTA COUNTY HOUSING AUTHORITY HAS RECEIVED A SECTION 8 MANAGEMENT ASSESSMENT PROGRAM SCORE OF 96%, MAKING THEM A HIGH-PERFORMING HOUSING AUTHORITY FOR THE FISCAL YEAR ENDING 6-30-2025. THE SECTION 8 MANAGEMENT ASSESSMENT PROGRAM IS A PERFORMANCE ASSESSMENT TOOL USED BY HUD TO EVALUATE HOW EFFECTIVELY PUBLIC HOUSING AUTHORITIES ADMINISTER THE SECTION 8 HOUSING CHOICE VOUCHER PROGRAM. THE HOUSING AUTHORITY RECEIVED A 96% LAST YEAR ALSO. BEFORE THEM, WE'LL CONTINUE TO STRIVE TO RECEIVE HIGH PERFORMANCE SCORES. MOVING ON TO OTHER BUSINESS, SATURDAY, I ATTENDED THE SHASTA COUNTY VETERANS AFFILIATED COUNCIL VETERANS ADVOCATE OF THE YEAR AWARD BANQUET, HOSTED AT THE WIND RIVER EVENTS CENTER. IT WAS GRATIFYING TO SEE THE SUPPORT VETERANS HAVE IN SHASTA COUNTY.
FINALLY, THIS IS A NICE SEGUE INTO A REPORT I RECEIVED FROM JANINE TAPPEL FROM THE DISTRICT EXECUTIVE.
SCOUTING OF AMERICA, FORMERLY NOTED AS THE BOY SCOUTS OF AMERICA, NOTIFIED VETERAN SERVICE OFFICER TROY PAYNE THAT THE GOLDEN EMPIRE COUNCIL HAS NOTED HIS EXCEPTIONAL HEART FOR PUBLIC SERVICE AND COMMUNITY.
AND TROY'S CONTINUED CONTRIBUTIONS. THEY ARE PRIVILEGED TO NAME TROY PAYNE, OUR VSO, AS THEIR OFFICIAL HONOREE FOR THEIR UPCOMING ANNUAL FUNDRAISING DINNER TO BE HELD AT THE WIND RIVER EVENT CENTER, MARCH 27TH AT 7PM.
THANK YOU, CEO RICKERT. I THINK WE'LL GIVE SUPERVISOR LONG A TIME TO CATCH HIS BREATH HERE, SO SUPERVISOR PLUMMER. GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE. A FEW UPDATES. ONE, I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY AND PUBLIC DEFENDER AROUND APPLYING
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FOR SOME FUNDING FOR SOFTWARE THAT WILL HELP THEM PROCESS THE BODY CAMERA FOOTAGE AND OTHER DIGITAL MEDIA. SO AS WE TALKED ABOUT, PROBABLY GOING BACK ABOUT A YEAR NOW, AS ALL LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES HAVE MOVED TOWARDS HAVING BODY CAMERAS, THAT PRODUCES A TON OF DIGITAL. YOU KNOW, VIDEO FILES, EXCUSE ME, THAT THEN NEED TO BE REVIEWED AND PROCESSED, AND THAT CAN BE PRETTY TIME INTENSIVE IF IT'S DONE MANUALLY. AND SO WE'RE LOOKING TO SECURE SOME FUNDING, BOTH THAT WILL KIND OF HOUSE AND STORE ALL THAT, BUT THEN ALSO USE SOME MORE ADVANCED TECHNOLOGIES TO IDENTIFY, YOU KNOW, WHERE IS THERE, YOU KNOW, WHERE IS THERE SOMETHING OF IMPORTANCE. SAY, YOU HAVE TWO HOURS OF VIDEO, IT CAN IDENTIFY, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT THIS, YOU KNOW, 10-MINUTE WINDOW. IT ALSO WILL INCLUDE TRANSLATION SERVICES THERE AS WELL. SO WE'RE LOOKING TO APPLY FOR SOME FUNDING THAT WOULD BE ABLE TO SECURE THAT FOR THE NEXT NINE YEARS. SO HOPEFULLY THAT WILL COME THROUGH. WE'LL FIND OUT IN THE COMING MONTHS. I ALSO WAS ABLE TO MEET WITH DR. DOUG MCMULLEN, WHO IS, I BELIEVE, A FAMILY PHYSICIAN, BUT HAS WORKED PRETTY EXTENSIVELY IN THE ADDICTION AND OPIOID SPACE. AND HE HAS TALKED ABOUT THE NEED FOR ADDITIONAL MEDICALLY ASSISTED TREATMENT FOR THOSE ADMITTED TO THE HOSPITAL. SO JUST IN MERCY HOSPITAL LAST YEAR, THERE WAS ABOUT 1,200 PEOPLE WHO WERE ADMITTED TO THE HOSPITAL FOR OTHER MEDICAL REASONS. WHO HAD, YOU KNOW, I BELIEVE, I BELIEVE, THE ACTUAL TERM, YOU KNOW, WAS IT HAD AN ADDICTION. AND RIGHT NOW, THOSE FOLKS ARE NOT NECESSARILY RECEIVING MEDICALLY ASSISTED TREATMENT. AND SO ABOUT 10 PERCENT OF THEM ACTUALLY LEAVE THE HOSPITAL BEFORE THEY'RE MEDICALLY DISCHARGED. SO, AGAINST THE INTERESTS OF THE PHYSICIANS. SO THEY DON'T GET SAY THEY HURT THEIR ARM OR HURT THEIR LEG. THEY'LL LEAVE THE HOSPITAL BECAUSE THEY ARE ADDICTED TO THE OPIOIDS AND NEED TO FIND, YOU KNOW, THOSE SUBSTANCES. AND SO WE'RE LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, IS THERE, THERE USED TO BE A PROGRAM CALLED THE BRIDGE PROGRAM, AND THAT HAS OPERATED IN THE EMERGENCY ROOM, BUT CAN WE EXTEND THAT TO THE BROADER POPULATION? SO THAT PEOPLE ARE STAYING IN THE HOSPITAL, RECEIVING THE MEDICAL CARE THEY NEED, AND SETTING THEM ON A PATH TO RECOVERY? AND, YOU KNOW, BREAKING FREE FROM THAT. AND ONE STAT HE SHARED WITH ME IS THAT FOR THOSE WHO ARE ON OPIOIDS, IF THEY TRY AN ABSTINENCE-BASED APPROACH, SO BASICALLY THEY JUST SAY, YOU KNOW, STOP USING IT.OVER A FIVE-YEAR PERIOD, THEY HAVE ABOUT A 10% SUCCESS RATE. IF THEY USE MEDICALLY-ASSISTED TREATMENT PLUS COUNSELING, THEN IT'S ABOUT 67%. SO THERE ARE SOME OPPORTUNITIES THERE TO, WHEN WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE ALREADY ENGAGING WITH THE SYSTEM, TO BE MORE EFFECTIVE IN HELPING THEM GET OFF OF OPIOIDS. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT WAYS THAT THAT CAN BE FUNDED IN A SUSTAINABLE WAY GOING FORWARD. I ALSO WAS ABLE TO TALK WITH I'M QUINTON FROM THE SMALL BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT CENTER, AND THERE WE HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS AROUND AI AND THEIR USE OF IT. THEY HAVE ACCESS TO A REALLY POWERFUL TOOL CALLED PLACER AI. THAT CAN GIVE INFORMATION ABOUT DIFFERENT BUSINESSES AND INDUSTRIES IN THE COMMUNITY AND HELP INFORM FUTURE PLANNING. AND THEY'RE ALSO GOING TO BE PARTICIPATING IN OUR AI TASK FORCE GOING FORWARD. THE OTHER THING, THOUGH, IS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT IS A WHAT'S CALLED AN INDUSTRY CLUSTER ANALYSIS, WHICH IS WHERE WE LOOK AT THE ECONOMY OF SHASTA COUNTY. AND WE SAY, WHERE DOES IT MAKE SENSE TO KIND OF DOUBLE DOWN AND FOCUS OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT EFFORTS? AND IF WE WERE TO PICK, SAY, THREE INDUSTRIES, WHICH OF THOSE THREE WOULD MAKE SENSE? NOT THAT THAT WOULD BE EVERY ECONOMIC ACTIVITY IN SHASTA COUNTY, BUT THAT THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE FOCUS ON. WE CONCENTRATE RESOURCES THERE. AND SO THEY HAVE EXAMPLES OF DOING THAT TYPE OF ANALYSIS IN OTHER COMMUNITIES. AND SO I'M LOOKING TO KIND OF LEVERAGE SOME OF THEIR TOOLS TO BE ABLE TO DO SOMETHING SIMILAR IN SHASTA COUNTY. SO THAT WE CAN REALLY SAY, HERE'S OUR ECONOMIC IDENTITY, HERE'S WHERE WE WANT TO FOCUS AND REALLY FOCUS OUR RESOURCES ON THAT GOING FORWARD. ONE LAST UPDATE IS I WAS ABLE TO CAME ACROSS SOME SOURCES THAT WERE TALKING ABOUT USING DATA LIKE WASTEWATER DATA TO IDENTIFY SPIKES IN DRUG USE AND DIFFERENT DRUGS THAT ARE IN THE COMMUNITY. AND THEN YOU CAN TAKE MORE PREEMPTIVE ACTION VERSUS SEEING A STRING OF OVERDOSES AND THEN SAYING, OKAY, NOW WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING. AND SO JUST HAD A MEETING YESTERDAY WITH A TEAM FROM SONOMA COUNTY, AS WELL AS OUR DIRECTOR OF OUR SHASTA SUBSTANCE USE COALITION. TO EXPLORE DIFFERENT DATA SOURCES THAT WE COULD POTENTIALLY GET ACCESS TO, THAT WOULD HELP US BE AHEAD OF
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THAT AND THEN TAKE MORE PREVENTATIVE ACTION. WHEN WE'RE SEEING A SUBSTANCE INTRODUCED INTO THE COMMUNITY, BECAUSE THERE'S CONSTANT CHANGES AND EVOLUTIONS IN TERMS OF THE DRUGS THAT ARE COMING.SO MORE TO COME ON THAT, BUT SOME INTERESTING TOOLS THAT ARE EMERGING IN TERMS OF BEING ABLE TO ANALYZE WHAT WAS PREVIOUSLY KIND OF JUST A MESS OF DATA AND BE ABLE TO DRAW SOME CONCLUSIONS FOR IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SUPERVISOR PLUMMER.
SUPERVISOR CRYE. THANK YOU, CHAIR. SO, IT'S BEEN A WILD PAST FEW MONTHS, SO I APOLOGIZE FOR MISSING THE LAST MEETING.
THIS IS GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT OF A REPORT, SO IT'S GOING TO TIE INTO REALLY THE HEALTH CARE INITIATIVE THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON OR THAT I STARTED WELL OVER A YEAR AGO. WHEN I STARTED THIS PROCESS, I DIDN'T HAVE A GENERAL PRACTITIONER.
DIDN'T HAVE A LOT OF MEDICAL SERVICES MYSELF. I JUST KNOW WE NEEDED ACCESS TO CARE. AND SINCE THE LAST, LIKE, FOUR MONTHS, NOW I'M WORKING ON GETTING MY OWN GENERAL PRACTITIONER. I'M WORKING ON GETTING MY OWN CARDIOLOGIST.
AND I HAVE AN ONCOLOGIST. SO I REALLY FEEL THE MEDICAL CHALLENGES I'VE GONE THROUGH HAVE BEEN ACTUALLY A BLESSING IN SO MANY WAYS. BECAUSE I'M NOW GETTING TO NAVIGATE MANY DIFFERENT HEALTH PATHS OF PEOPLE TRYING TO GET DOCTORS. SO WHEN PEOPLE TALK ABOUT THE STRUGGLE OF GETTING A SPECIALIST. I MEAN, I'M GUESSING I'M PROBABLY GOING TO HAVE RHEUMATOID ARTHRITIS, PROBABLY IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS, BUT I'M NOT TRYING TO MAKE LIGHT OF IT.
BUT I AM MORE AWARE THAN EVER OF THE MEDICAL SHORTAGES THAT WE HAVE IN THIS COUNTY. SO I WOULD ASK PEOPLE TO WATCH THIS. PLEASE REACH OUT TO ME WITH YOUR STORIES BECAUSE MANY OF YOU HAVE REACHED OUT. I HAVE A MEETING NEXT WEEK. I MET DR. PAN AT THE, WELL, MY BROTHER-IN-LAW GOT THE THE MEDAL OF VALOR AWARD FOR THE STATE FOR THE HIGHWAY PATROL.
SO SHE WAS AT THAT WITH A LOT OF OTHER DIGNITARIES OVER A YEAR AGO. WELL, SHE'S HERE NEXT WEEK, CORRECT, CEO RICKERT? DOES THAT MEAN NEXT WEEK? THAT IS CORRECT. SO I'LL BE SPENDING AN ENTIRE DAY WITH HER, AND I WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO PRINT OUT SOME DIFFERENT EXAMPLES.
AND SHE IS THE STATE'S PUBLIC HEALTH OFFICER. SO I'M REALLY WANTING TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION, BE EXTREMELY IMPACTFUL, WITH REAL STORIES ABOUT PEOPLE THAT ARE STRUGGLING HERE IN SHASTA COUNTY THAT NEED MEDICAL CARE.
I'VE WORKED WITH ASSEMBLYWOMAN HADWICK'S OFFICE THE PAST FEW WEEKS. THEY SUBMITTED TO THE BUDGET PANEL ABOUT, I THINK IT WAS $500,000 AS THEY'RE SEEKING FOR FUNDING FOR DR. DANUKA AND THE COMMITTEE WE'VE CREATED TO HAVE SOME MORE RESOURCES TO BE ABLE TO GO VISIT OTHER COMMUNITIES, OTHER MEDICAL SCHOOLS IN THE U.S. BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY RIGHT NOW, THE GROUP THAT'S DOING IT, THEY'RE JUST SELF FUNDING IT AND DOING THAT. AND SO WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE STATE LEAN IN.
BECAUSE AGAIN, I THINK THERE'S NO BETTER PLACE THAN A MEDICAL SCHOOL OR INCREASING MEDICAL SERVICES HERE IN SHASTA COUNTY. SO MORE TO FOLLOW.
DEFINITELY AT OUR NEXT MEETING WITH THAT AFTER I SPEND THE DAY WITH DR. PAN AND HER TEAM NEXT WEEK.
LAST THING I WANT TO COMMENT ON IS I'VE SPENT QUITE A BIT OF TIME WITH DIRECTOR COLEMAN AND THIS ITEM. THAT IS NOW OUR FOUR. IT WAS ON THE LAST AGENDA, AND IT'S BEEN A YEAR IN THE MAKING.
WITH CONSTANTLY LOOKING AT HOW WE'RE INVESTING OUR DOLLARS, WHAT THE RETURN IS, AND MAKING SURE WE HAVE QUANTIFIABLE RESULTS. I THINK THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT. SO IT'S BEEN A YEAR PROCESS TO GET TO HERE. I'M THANKFUL THAT THIS ITEM IS A REGULAR CALENDAR ITEM, SO I'LL SAVE MY COMMENTS FOR THAT. AND WITH THAT, I'LL GIVE THE REST OF MY TIME. THANK YOU, CHAIR.
SUPERVISOR HARMON. YOU KNOW, I'M GLAD YOU'RE DOING GOOD.
BUT I DO WANT TO SAY THAT SUPERVISOR LONG, AND I PROBABLY WILL GET A LITTLE MORE CONSIDERATION FOR THE OLD PART OF IT. HE'S ALWAYS TEASING US ABOUT BEING THE TWO OLDEST ONES ON THE BOARD. YES, AND THANK YOU FOR BEING BACK. I WAS TRYING TO BE REALLY NICE AND NOT SAY SOMETHING THAT HIS WIFE WOULD GET MAD AT ME OVER. OKAY, ALL RIGHT. SO ON THE 24TH, SUPERVISOR KELSTROM, CHAIRMAN KELSTROM, AND I ATTENDED THE CATTLEMEN'S IN ANDERSON.
THAT'S ALWAYS A GREAT MEETING FOR ME. I LOVE THE CATTLEMEN, AND I LOVE THE THE CAMARADERIE THAT YOU FEEL IN THE ROOM, WHICH BRINGS UP WOLVES, AND WE NOW HAVE A PACK OF WOLVES IN THE VALLEY BETWEEN HERE AND THE FOOTHILLS TO THE EAST. I KEEP BRINGING IT UP BECAUSE IT'S NOT GOING TO GO AWAY AND IT'S GOING TO GET WORSE. AND I KNOW EVERYBODY, NOT EVERYBODY, BUT A FEW PEOPLE WANT TO SAY, OH MY GOSH, HE'S GOING TO TALK ABOUT WOLVES AGAIN. WELL, I'M GOING TO KEEP TALKING ABOUT WOLVES. AND PRETTY SOON, I'M GOING TO PROBABLY START TALKING ABOUT GRIZZLY BEARS. SO THAT'S
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ON THE LIST, TOO. AND THEN ON THE 26TH, I WENT TO THE SHASTA REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION, THE BOARD. 9 A.M. I'D LIKE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET, BECAUSE I WENT TO THAT THING AT 9 A.M. AND THEN I HAD TO BE AT THE NORTEC MEETING AT 10 DOWN IN ANDERSON, THAT WAS KIND OF LATE FOR ONE. AND YEAH, WHO SETS THAT UP IS THAT? SPREAD THEM APART JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE. BUT IT TENDED THAT TENDED THAT ONE AND THEN WENT TO THE NORTEC. WHICH IS THE WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT, WENDY'S ANATOLY'S IN CHARGE.SHE'S DOING US A GOOD JOB, AND THAT'S PARTNERSHIPS BETWEEN WORKFORCE AND BUSINESS AND PROMOTING ECONOMIC GROWTH FOR SHASTA COUNTY. AND THEN ON THE FIRST, I WENT UP TO HAT CREEK COMMUNITY HALL.
AND, OF COURSE, I'M RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF RANCH COUNTRY.
BUT IT WAS REALLY MOSTLY ABOUT THE VOLUNTEER FIRE. AND NOW THEY'RE KIND OF IN THE MIDDLE BETWEEN CASTLE AND WITH THE OLD STATION, SORRY, AN OLD STATION. AND OLD STATION HAS ONE VOLUNTEER FIREMAN LEFT, AND I DON'T THINK HE'S EVEN FUNCTIONING RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE I THINK HE'S LIKE 80 YEARS OLD, BUT NO DISRESPECT TO HIM. BUT I THINK THAT DEPARTMENT'S A LITTLE OFF THE HOOK. AND THEN CASTLE'S SHUT DOWN, SO YOU'VE GOT HACKRICK VOLUNTEER FIRE. THAT'S IN THE MIDDLE, AND THEY'RE GOING BOTH DIRECTIONS, TRYING TO KEEP UP, AND THEY'RE DOING A GOOD JOB IN THERE. GREAT BUNCH OF PEOPLE AND IT'S SUCH A SUCH A NICE FEELING WHEN YOU GO INTO THOSE, BECAUSE EVERYBODY KNOWS EVERYBODY, IT FEELS LIKE A FAMILY ENVIRONMENT. AND THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE. THEY'RE JUST SO CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE COMMUNITY. IT'S HARD TO REPLACE THAT BUT BUT THEY ARE STRUGGLING WITH ALL THE NEW. AND AND I NEED TO, I NEED TO GET THESE ALL OUR SUPERVISORS TO TO GET ON BOARD WITH. THEY GOT TO COME DOWN HERE. I THINK IT'S 11 TIMES TO COMPLETE TRAINING AND THESE ARE VOLUNTEERS, SO THEY GOT OTHER JOBS, THEY DON'T NEED TO BE GOING.
THESE ARE NEW REGULATIONS, THESE ARE, THESE ARE, AND THERE'S GOT TO BE SOME WAY. WE CAN SEND SOMEBODY UP AND DOUBLE UP ON THE TRAINING AND HELP THEM OUT SO THAT THEY CAN GET THAT TRAINING DONE. AND I THINK THEY'RE PROBABLY THE FURTHEST VOLUNTEER DEPARTMENT OUT IN THE COUNTY AND THEY. IT'S JUST A HARDSHIP TO TRY TO GET THEM DOWN HERE AND I.
WE GOT TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO SUPPORT THAT AND HELP THEM IN, YOU KNOW, FUNDING. AND MAYBE GET SOMEBODY FROM THE TRAINING DOWN HERE TO JUST GO UP THERE AND SHARE THAT BURDEN OF GETTING TRAINING DONE IN A REMOTE AREA SO FAR AWAY.
ARE YOU GUYS FEELING ALL THAT? WE'LL WORK ON IT. YES. THANK YOU. SHOUT OUT TO THEM FOR DOING SUCH A GOOD JOB UP THERE IN THAT COMMUNITY. I GOT TO HURRY UP. I DON'T USUALLY HIT THAT BEEPER NOISE ON THE, SORRY. ON THE 2ND, I WENT AND MET WITH CHRISTINE AARON, CHRIS COLEMAN, AND DISCUSSED THE BUDGETS FOR HER DEPARTMENT. WHAT A GREAT JOB THEY'RE DOING. I DON'T FEEL LIKE WE'RE IN NEAR AS MUCH TROUBLE AS THE REST OF THE STATE IS, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF STUFF COMING AND A LOT OF CHALLENGES WHERE THE STATE'S GOING TO BE SHORTING US ON PROMISED FUNDING. MORE TO BE BROUGHT IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS ON THAT. THANKS, CHRISTY, FOR ALL THE INFORMATION.
ON THE 3RD, WE HAD THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS EMERGENCY MEETING.
OF COURSE, EVERYBODY IS AWARE OF THAT. AND THEN ON THE 7TH, WHICH WAS SATURDAY NIGHT, WE HAD THE PALISADRO PARK NORTH STATE WINE FUNDRAISER.
THEY DID A GOOD JOB. I THINK WE, I HAVEN'T HEARD THE RESULTS, BUT I THINK WE DID GOOD RAISING FUNDS FOR THAT.
THEY NEED TO. THEY WERE, AND THEY HAD A 1920S, THE 20S ERA. YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO DRESS UP LIKE MY WIFE SAYS, YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO DRESS UP LIKE THE 20S. I SAID, I'M PRETTY SURE COWBOYS WERE STILL DRESSING LIKE THIS IN THE 20S. SO I'M GOING LIKE, I USUALLY DRESS. AND WHEN I SHOWED UP, WE HAD THE PALISADRO RODEO GROUP THERE.
THEY WERE ALL WEARING COWBOY HATS. MY WIFE SAID, DON'T WEAR A COWBOY HAT TO THE 1920S. WELL, I SHOULD HAVE WORN MY COWBOY HAT, BUT OKAY. AND THEN ON THE 9TH, WHICH WAS YESTERDAY, I MET WITH RICKERT. WELL, I MET WITH RICKERT AND COUNCIL LARIMER AND DISCUSSED A BUNCH OF THINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO GO OVER TODAY. AND TALKED
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TO SHERIFF JOHNSON LAST NIGHT ABOUT THE DOG PROGRAM. AND I WAS GLAD TO HEAR THAT THAT DOG PROGRAM IS GOING TO KEEP GOING HARD AND STRONG IN SPITE OF A FEW CHALLENGES.BUT WITH THAT, I'LL - I'M DONE. THANK YOU, SUPERVISOR HARMON. SUPERVISOR LONG. THANK YOU, CHAIR. GREAT TO SEE EVERYONE. WELCOME. SO, AS EVERYONE KNOWS, I SIT ON THE SHASTA COUNTY FIRE SAFE COUNCIL BOARD, AND WE ARE CURRENTLY WORKING ON OUR STRATEGIC PLAN FOR A FIVE-YEAR PLAN, AND HOPE SETH HAS COME IN, AND SHE'S THE ONE THAT WORKED ON THE STRATEGIC VISION PLAN WITH THE COUNTY. HERE, AND SO SHE'S, SHE'S HELPING WITH THE PROCESS AT THAT AND EXCITED TO ANNOUNCE THAT THE SHASTA FIRE SAFE COUNCIL HAS BEEN AWARDED A PG&E GRANT AND IT'S CALLED THE OLD SWASEY OLD SHASTA SWASEY FUELS REDUCTION PROJECT. SO IT'S A VEGETATION MANAGEMENT PROGRAM THAT WE HAVE BEEN AWARDED THE GRANT FOR. AND I'M EXCITED TO SEE THAT GET STARTED, REDUCING FUELS IN OUR COMMUNITY. I ATTENDED THE GREATER REDDING CHAMBER OF COMMERCE 47TH ANNUAL GALA, AND IT WAS A LEGENDS AND LEADERS GALA, AND I HAD THE PLEASURE OF PRESENTING CERTIFICATES ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS TO VARIOUS RECIPIENTS, INCLUDING BUSINESSES, NONPROFITS, PEOPLE WHO MAKE OUR COMMUNITY SPECIAL. AND A BIG CONGRATULATIONS TO CITIZEN OF THE YEAR, MARY RICKERT. I WAS ABLE TO GIVE HER HER CERTIFICATE AS WELL. SO THAT WAS A VERY SPECIAL NIGHT. A LOT OF FUN. I'VE MET WITH AD HOC COMMITTEES. I WON'T GET INTO THAT, BUT WE HAD A MEETING. I'LL JUST EXPLAIN IT BRIEFLY, BUT WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE ARE DEVELOPING THE FIVE STRATEGIC GOALS FOR THE COUNTY THAT HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED THROUGH OUR PROCESS. AND SO WE HAD STATUS UPDATES AND WE HAD EACH OF THE DEPARTMENT HEADS LEADING THESE INDIVIDUAL TEAMS. THAT ARE EACH TASKED WITH DEVELOPING GOALS. SO I SIT ON THE COMMITTEE FOR THE FIRE RESILIENCE AND THE CODE ENFORCEMENT. SO THOSE TWO WERE PRESENTED, AND OTHER COMMUNITIES FROM HHSA, CHRISTY COLEMAN PRESENTED ON THE UPDATES WITH ACCESS TO MEDICAL CARE, AND THEN WE HAD CEO RICKERT KIND OF PRESENT ON THE GOAL THAT HE'S TAKING, WHICH IS BETTER COMMUNICATION.
AND THE FINAL ONE, I, THAT WAS ACCESS TO MEDICAL CARE CORRECTIONS, COMMUNITY CORRECTIONS. SO WE HAD KIND OF A GENERAL UPDATE ON THAT ONE. ANYWAY, LET'S SEE HERE. I MET WITH CAL FIRE BEN ROWE AND WITH FELLOW BOARD MEMBERS FROM SHASTA COUNTY FIRE SAFE COUNCIL, AND WE DISCUSSED PRESCRIBED BURN ASSOCIATION, PBA. PROJECTS THAT WERE TRYING TO GET GOING IN OUR COMMUNITY FOR TAKING CARE OF SOME OF THIS WILDFIRE, VEGETATION MANAGEMENT. SO MET WITH THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY, WE DISCUSSED HER OFFICE AND STAFFING LEVELS, AND SHE WAS FORTHRIGHT WITH ME ABOUT A LOT OF CONSIDERATIONS. AND FINALLY, I WAS JUST GOING TO TALK ABOUT ONE OF THE RETIRED JUDGES. I RAN INTO HIM AND WE WERE TALKING AND HE, HE THOUGHT THERE MAY HAVE BEEN MEMORABILIA LEFT BEHIND IN THE OLD COURTHOUSE.
SO I SAID, GREAT, LET'S GO LOOK FOR IT. SO JEN ROSSI AND I WENT OVER THERE, TOURED THE BUILDING, AND WE FOUND THESE REALLY COOL HISTORIC PLAQUES THAT ARE STILL MOUNTED IN THE FRONT LOBBY.
THERE, RIGHT BEFORE THE METAL DETECTORS.
AND IT TALKS ABOUT THE ANNEX RECONSTRUCTION PROJECTS. IT HAS ALL THE NAMES AT VARIOUS STAGES. THERE WERE THREE PLAQUES, AND SO I MADE ACCOMMODATIONS WITH GENEROSITY TO HAVE THOSE SECURED AND BRING THOSE, AND THOSE ARE BEING STORED IN THE CAO'S OFFICE. THIS RETIRED JUDGE ALSO TOLD ME ABOUT HISTORIC WOODWORKING THAT WAS UP IN ONE OF THE COURTROOMS THAT HE WAS AWARE OF, AND IT HAS REALLY HISTORIC SIGNIFICANCE. AND I COULDN'T DO IT JUSTICE, BUT SO I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN GET THAT TO THE PROPER PLACE AS WELL, GIVEN ITS HISTORIC SIGNIFICANCE. AND SO I WOULD I SAY ALL THIS TO THROW OUT SUGGESTIONS FOR WHERE FOLKS WOULD SEE IN OUR COMMUNITY WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME OF THESE HISTORIC PLAQUES AND MAYBE THE WOODWORK.
THE EATON HOUSE HAS BEEN GIVEN
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TO ME. WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL BECAUSE WE CAN'T GIVE AWAY PUBLIC FUNDS AND WE CAN'T GIVE AWAY. COURTHOUSE MEMORABILIA, IF YOU WILL, TO INDIVIDUALS.SO IT WOULD HAVE TO BE TO SOME KIND OF A GROUP. AND MAYBE HAVE TO LEASE IT OR SELL IT FOR A DOLLAR OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT TO MAKE THE SALE LEGAL.
BUT I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM OUR PUBLIC AS TO SUGGESTIONS WHERE THESE, THESE PLAQUES CAN GO, AND THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT.
THANK YOU. NO, IT'S NOT AGENDIZED. SORRY. ALL RIGHT.
ALL RIGHT. AS SUPERVISOR HARMON SAID, WE HAD A CATTLEMAN MEETING ON THE 24TH. JOHN INGRAM WAS PRESENT. AND THEN ON THE 26TH, WE HAD A CERTA MEETING, WHICH IS THE SHASTA REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION AGENCY BOARD. SUPERVISOR PLUMMER, THANK YOU FOR SITTING IN AS THE ALTERNATE FOR SUPERVISOR CRYE. AND SINCE SUPERVISOR CRYE WAS NOT THERE, WE MADE HIM THE CHAIRMAN OF THE CERTA. SO CONGRATULATIONS, CHAIRMAN CRYE, ON THAT CERTA APPOINTMENT.
AND THEN THAT NIGHT, I WAS SUPPOSED TO HAVE A FIREWISE MEETING OUT IN HAPPY VALLEY. SO AT THE CLEAR CREEK WATER DISTRICT MEETING THE WEEK BEFORE, THEY HAD ANNOUNCED THAT THEY WERE GOING TO HAVE THEIR FIREWISE MEETING. AND I HADN'T SEEN THOSE FOLKS IN A WHILE, SO I WAS KIND OF LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT, EXCEPT I GOT OUT THERE. AND IT WAS JUST MYSELF AND CAITLIN, WHO NORMALLY FILMS THEM, AND SHE WAS THE ONLY ONE THERE.
SO I CONTACTED SOME PEOPLE, AND THEY ANNOUNCED THEY WERE GOING TO HAVE THE FIREWISE MEETING, BUT NOBODY SHOWED UP. AND THEN, ON THE 27TH, WE HAD THE REPUBLICAN CENTRAL EVENT DOWN AT THE GAIA HOTEL. THEY HAD SOME, THE GUEST SPEAKERS WERE, ONE GUY WAS RUNNING FOR SUPERINTENDENT OF SCHOOLS FOR CALIFORNIA. I THINK WE HAD A SECRETARY OF STATE THERE. AND GREAT SPEAKERS, GREAT EVENT.
IT WAS A GREAT EVENING. AND THEN ON THE FIRST, I HAD THE ANDERSON SENIOR CENTER BREAKFAST IN ANDERSON. AND AGAIN, SHOUT OUT TO TRISH CLARK. SHE DOES AMAZING WORK THERE. ON THE FOURTH, I HAD A GENDER REVIEW WITH CEO RICKERT AND STEPHANIE BLANKENSHIP. AND THEN ON THE 6TH, I WENT TO, WE CALL IT NACWA, BUT IT'S NORTHERN CALIFORNIA WATER ASSOCIATION. MEETING DOWN IN CHICO AT SIERRA NEVADA BREWERY. AND IT'S AN ALL-DAY EVENT. THEY HAD A LOT OF GUEST SPEAKERS FROM THE STATE LEVEL, AS WELL AS THE FEDERAL LEVEL.
IT'S A VERY GOOD MEETING, AND I GO EVERY YEAR. I THINK THIS IS MY THIRD YEAR. AND THEN ON SUNDAY, I WAS ACTUALLY OUT IN MANTON BECAUSE SWEET SHOOTS CAFE OUT THERE, WHICH IS NOW CLOSED TEMPORARILY. THEY HAD A WATER ISSUE. THAT WAS THE LAST DAY THEY WERE OPEN. CLAMPERS HAD THEIR MONTHLY MEETING OUT THERE, AND I ALWAYS ENJOY VISITING WITH THE CLAMPERS. SO AFTER THEIR MEETING, I WENT OUT THERE AND JOINED THEM AND HAD SOME FUN WITH THE CLAMPERS.
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SO, ALL RIGHT, MOVING ON.WE'LL GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT BEFORE CONSENT. DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS? YES, SIR. THERE ARE FOUR SPEAKERS. FOUR SPEAKERS, REALLY? ALL RIGHT. EVERYBODY GETS THREE MINUTES. WE'LL START WITH DON DUCKETT, FOLLOWED BY DOLORES LUCERO, BENJAMIN NGUYEN, THEN NICK GARDNER. IF I CALLED YOUR NAME, PLEASE GET IN THE QUEUE. GOOD MORNING, BOARD. THANK YOU FOR THE THREE MINUTES. I WOULD LIKE THE BOARD TO RECONSIDER THE UPCOMING RESTRICTIONS IN JULY ON PUBLIC COMMENT BECAUSE THEY SIGNIFICANTLY LIMIT THE PUBLIC'S ABILITY TO PARTICIPATE IN THE DECISIONS THAT YOU MAKE.
REGARDING THE TWO MINUTES THAT IS GOING TO BE STANDARDIZED, ON PAPER, TWO MINUTES SOUNDS REASONABLE, BUT IT'S BARELY ENOUGH TIME TO EVEN INTRODUCE THE BASICS OF VERY COMPLEX ISSUES, AND ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE GOING TO COUNT THE WALK-UP TIME. AND ALSO THE NOTION OF LIMITING CERTAIN INDIVIDUALS' ABILITY TO ONLY COMMENT ON A CERTAIN NUMBER OF AGENDA ITEMS PER MEETING. I DON'T WANT TO EVEN GET STARTED ON THAT, BUT ALL I HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THAT IS THAT PUBLIC COMMENT SHOULDN'T BE SOMETHING THAT IS TREATED OR RATIONED BY THE GOVERNMENT. SO I'M RESPECTFULLY ASKING THE BOARD TO FIND A WAY TO MANAGE THESE MEETINGS WITHOUT LIMITING THE VOICES OF THE PEOPLE THAT YOU SERVE.
BECAUSE THE STRENGTH OF THESE MEETINGS SHOULD NOT BE MEASURED BY HOW QUICKLY THEY OCCUR. BUT BY HOW WILLING YOU, AS OUR LEADERS, ARE WILLING TO LISTEN TO US, THE PEOPLE THAT YOU SERVE.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UP NEXT IS DOLORES LUCERO, FOLLOWED BY BENJAMIN NGUYEN, THEN NICK GARDNER. I'VE GOT A COUPLE CONCERNS REGARDING HOW YOU RUN THESE MEETINGS AND WHAT YOU VOTE AND WHAT YOU DO, AND BEHIND THE SCENES. YOU'RE ALLOWING CLINT CURTIS TO COMMIT FRAUD IN THE ELECTION DEPARTMENT, AND QUITE A FEW, YOU KNOW WHAT'S BEEN GOING ON, AND I GET IT. YOU DON'T WANT TO BE ENGAGED, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT? YOU ARE ALLOWING CITIZENS, REGULAR CITIZENS TO DO YOUR JOB, TO
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ABLE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY DON'T MOVE FORWARD TO COMMIT FRAUD. AND I'VE BEEN SAYING THIS FOR A LONG TIME, AND YOU GUYS ARE NOT WILLING TO LISTEN. WELL, WE'RE TIRED OF LISTENING, AND I'M NOT GOING TO SAY WHAT'S COMING. AND I'M TELLING YOU RIGHT NOW, YOU ALL ARE RELIABLE FOR NOT DOING YOUR JOB AND NOT STEPPING UP AND NOT BEING HONEST. MR. PLUMMER, YOU ARE IN DISTRICT 4. YOU NEED TO DO MORE FOR OUR CITIZENS. BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T DO MORE FOR OUR CITIZENS, YOU ARE ALLOWING FRAUD IN OUR ELECTION COMING UP. AND I MEAN FRAUD, AND I'LL SAY IT. THEY'RE COMMITTING FRAUD. THEY'RE ENGAGING IN FRAUD IN THE ELECTION. AND I'M SO PISSED OFF THAT YOU GUYS ARE WASTING OUR TAX DOLLARS TO JUST SIT THERE AND JUST DO WHATEVER YOU WANT AND PICK YOUR OWN AGENDA AND BRING YOUR OWN AGENDA TO THE PUBLIC. AND SAY, THIS IS WHAT WE WANT, THIS IS WHAT WE WANT TO SEE IN OUR COUNTY. YOU DO WHAT YOU WANT, BUT WHAT ABOUT US? HAVE YOU DECIDED TO ASK US, MR. PLUMMER, WHAT THE CITIZENS WANT IN SHASTA LAKE? HAVE YOU MET WITH EVERYBODY TO SAY, HEY, WHAT DO YOU GUYS WANT TO SEE? OR YOU JUST HAVE YOUR OWN AGENDA, WHAT YOU THINK IS BEST FOR WHAT, BECAUSE WHAT YOU DO AND REPRESENT 501C3S. I'M TELLING YOU RIGHT NOW, I AM SO PISSED AND I CAN'T EVEN TALK TO YOU. BECAUSE I KNOW THE LITIGATION IS GOING ON, BUT THERE'S ELECTION FRAUD TAKING PLACE RIGHT NOW. WHAT'S HIS NAME? MR. CLINT CURTIS IS ALLOWING FOR PEOPLE TO ENGAGE TO COMMIT FRAUD IN THERE. THE PEOPLE WHO'S BEEN SAYING THAT IT'S THE OTHER SIDE, I'M TELLING YOU RIGHT NOW, THEY'RE COMMITTING FRAUD. AND I KNOW HOW THEY'VE DONE IT. AND I HAVE. WE HAVE. THINGS THAT WE COULD PROVE 100% WITHOUT A DOUBT, THEY'RE COMMITTING FRAUD.BUT THE LEGAL COUNSEL, AND I UNDERSTAND WHY HE DID WHAT HE DID IN THE PAST ABOUT LAURA HUB AND THEIR GROUP SUING THEM.
I GET IT. AND I KNOW EVERYTHING ABOUT WHAT THEY'VE BEEN DOING.
BUT I'M TELLING YOU RIGHT NOW, IF YOU IGNORE THIS, YOU WILL BE LIABLE. AND YOU'RE GOING TO SEE WHAT'S GOING TO COME DOWN. AND I'M JUST SO FUCKING PISSED OFF BECAUSE THAT'S RIGHT. YOU HEARD ME. WHAT ABOUT MR. NICK GARDNER'S CALLING THE JANE DOE A BITCH? YOU THINK IT'S OKAY FOR THEM TO SAY THAT? THANK YOU. NEXT UP IS BENJAMIN NGUYEN, FOLLOWED BY NICK GARDNER. ALL RIGHT. I'M PLEASED TO SEE THAT WE HAVE A THREE MINUTE CLOCK. I'M PROBABLY NOT GOING TO USE ALL OF IT, BUT I'M ACTUALLY SUPER PLEASED TO SEE THAT. YEAH, I DO SHARE SOME OF DON'S SENTIMENTS ABOUT PUBLIC SPEAKING. AND I MEAN, I'M SORT OF THE LIVING EMBODIMENT OF THAT. I'VE BEEN ARRESTED BY THIS BOARD. AND SO IS MY WIFE, WHO, INCIDENTALLY, IS GOING TO BE OFF OF HOUSE ARREST TOMORROW. SO, YOU KNOW, LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING HER AT FUTURE MEETINGS. THERE'S A LOT GOING ON BEHIND THE SCENES.
I THINK I ALLUDED TO THAT PREVIOUSLY. BUT I, I DO BELIEVE THAT THIS BOARD HAS THE CAPABILITY TO PUT THINGS BEHIND THEM AND TO MOVE FORWARD. I DO ALSO BELIEVE THAT THIS ELECTION IS GOING TO BE QUITE CONSEQUENTIAL FOR SEVERAL OF THE MEMBERS OF THIS BOARD. ACTUALLY, ALL OF THE MEMBERS, DEPENDING ON HOW IT GOES. WE'LL HOPEFULLY SEE A NEW DIRECTION, AND WE'LL SEE A TYPE OF POLITICS THAT GOES BEYOND PERSONAL VENDETTAS AND VINDICATION. THANK YOU. AND OUR LAST SPEAKER, NICK GARDNER. I HAVE A SUPERVISOR. OKAY, SUPERVISOR. I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY SOMETHING WITH COUNCIL. DOES THE BOARD HAVE THE ABILITY TO ARREST PEOPLE? I MEAN, DID THE SHERIFF RELINQUISH HIS POWER TO US WHERE WE CAN ARREST PEOPLE? NO, THE SHERIFF HAS THE AUTHORITY TO ARREST THEM. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE BECAUSE I MISSED A MEETING. AND I THOUGHT MAYBE THE SHERIFF CAME IN AND GAVE THE BOARD THE POWER TO ARREST PEOPLE. THANK YOU, SUPERVISOR CRYE. ACTUALLY, I LIKE THE TWO MINUTES. I GET TIRED OF SOME OF THESE COMMENTS THAT JUST GO ON AND ON AND ON. I WANTED TO SAY ABOUT CLINT CURTIS FIRING PEOPLE WHO DON'T FOLLOW HIS DIRECTION. ACTUALLY, HE'S THE BOSS. DOESN'T HE HAVE THE RIGHT TO FIRE SOMEBODY THAT DOESN'T WANT TO DO THEIR JOB THE WAY HE WANTS IT DONE? AND I'D QUESTION DOLORES TO TELL US WHAT FRAUD'S GOING ON. SHE'S ALWAYS COMPLAINING ABOUT FRAUD, BUT SHE NEVER EXPLAINS WHAT THE FRAUD IS. SO THAT'S MY THOUGHTS ON THAT.
AND IF TWO MINUTES ISN'T ENOUGH UP HERE, YOU CAN E-MAIL THE SUPERVISORS, AND YOU CAN TALK ALL YOU WANT TO. OKAY?
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FORTY-FOUR MILLION DOLLARS.THAT'S HOW MUCH THE COUNTY PAID IN UNFUNDED PENSION LIABILITIES, ALONG WITH THE REGULAR PENSION SERVICE. AND YOU GUYS MANAGED TO CREATE SOME RESERVES OUT OF STARTING IN THAT HOLE. I APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH.
THAT'S LEARNING HOW TO WATCH YOUR MONEY, PINCH YOUR PENNIES. THE CITY OF REDDING COULD LEARN SOME THINGS FROM YOU GUYS. SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU. I CAME OUT IN FAVOR OF MEASURE B, ALTHOUGH IT IS AGAINST THE CALIFORNIA CONSTITUTION. IT'S A SHOT ACROSS THE BOW HOW THE PUBLIC FEELS ABOUT VOTER ID, AND THAT'S THE REASON I DO IT.
AND I UNDERSTAND YOUR POSITION OF STANDING UP AGAINST IT. SO HAVE A GREAT DAY. I DIDN'T NEED THREE MINUTES. ALL RIGHT.
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THANK YOU. MOVING ON. SO ITEM C4 HAS BEEN PULLED FROM CONSENT BY SUPERVISOR CRYE AND ITEM C7 HAS BEEN PULLED FROM CONSENT BY SUPERVISOR PLUMMER. I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE REST. SO MOVED. SECOND. ALL RIGHT. A MOTION MADE BY SUPERVISOR CRYE, SECOND BY SUPERVISOR PLUMMER. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. PASSES 5-0. ALL RIGHT. SO[C4 Appoint the following members to the Assessment Appeals Board: (1) Ken Murray, to serve the remainder of a three-year term to September 7, 2026; and (2) Josh Divine, to serve the remainder of a three-year term to September 4, 2028.]
LET'S TAKE UP C4. SUPERVISOR CRYE. YEAH, JUST REALLY QUICK. I WANTED TO PULL THIS JUST BECAUSE I THINK ANY TIME WE HAVE SOME OF THESE BOARDS AND THERE'S, I'VE ASKED QUESTIONS ABOUT LIKE HOW MANY PEOPLE WERE RECRUITED, WHAT WAS THE POOL OF PEOPLE LIKE, AND SO I JUST ASKED TO PULL THIS JUST TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION, BECAUSE THE APPEALS BOARD IS A VERY IMPORTANT ONE. IT MATTERS GREATLY TO THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY. AND I WANTED TO JUST HAVE THIS PULLED. SO ANYTIME WE PUT PEOPLE ON BOARDS FOR ESPECIALLY EXTENDED PERIODS OF TIME, I WANT TO KNOW WHO WE'RE PUTTING THERE. SO I KNOW ONE OF THE GENTLEMEN THAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE APPOINTED WITH THE C4 WAS ONE OF THE SPEAKERS HERE LAST MEETING. HE CAME AND SPOKE LAST MEETING.SO DO WE KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE APPLIED? DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? WE DO HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT. THERE ARE FIVE SPEAKERS. OKAY. LET'S GET THE PUBLIC COMMENT, THEN. OKAY. WE WILL START WITH DOLORES LUCERO, FOLLOWED BY KEN MURRAY, ROCKY SLAUGHTER, THEN ALAN KNOTT. IF I CALLED YOUR NAME, PLEASE GET IN THE QUEUE. AND ONE OTHER THING I'LL SAY WHILE THE FIRST SPEAKER'S COMING UP IS WE ALL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO RECRUIT PEOPLE, BUT THERE'S AT ONE TIME WE HAD LIKE 84 BOARDS OR COMMITTEES. AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S HARD TO SOMETIMES FIND PEOPLE, BUT WHEN YOU ACTUALLY PUT IT OUT THERE, MUCH LIKE THE MOSQUITO VECTOR BOARD, LIKE, ONCE YOU START TALKING ABOUT IT, A LOT OF PEOPLE COME OUT AND SAY, HEY, I WANT TO GET INVOLVED.
THEY JUST DON'T KNOW. SO ANYWAY, THANK YOU, CHAIR.
OKAY. THIS ITEM THAT YOU PULLED, YOU KNOW, AND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, KEVIN, THAT'S NOT TRUE. YOU GUYS ALWAYS DO A CONSENT ITEM.
YOU RUBBER STAMP A LOT OF THESE PEOPLE, GET REAPPOINTED. BUT THE ONLY REASON YOU PULLED THIS ONE OFF, AND I'LL TELL YOU WHY, BECAUSE MR. KEN MURRAY ACTUALLY HAS BEEN AROUND FOR A LONG TIME. HE ACTUALLY FILED A LAWSUIT AGAINST MR. INSAMO. SO I KNOW THAT, MR. PATRICK JONES DOESN'T LIKE MR. MURPHY HERE OR WHATEVER.
KEN, YOU KNOW, MURRAY. AND I KNOW THAT BECAUSE I HAVE THE DOCUMENTS HERE FROM THE COURTHOUSE. AND HE ALSO WAS ACTUALLY... WAS THEY FILED A LAWSUIT AGAINST HIM IN REGARDING UNLIMITED FRAUD.
HIM AND HIS LAW FIRM AND MULTIPLE AGENCIES, THAT'S WHY YOU PULLED IT OFF.
NOT BECAUSE YOU WANT TO BE FAIR WITH PEOPLE. IT'S BECAUSE YOU HAD AN AGENDA TO PULLING IT OFF. BECAUSE EVERY OTHER AGENDA, YOU RUBBER STAMP WHO GETS REAPPOINTED WITHOUT EVEN PULLING THOSE ITEMS OUT OF THE CONSENT ITEMS. SO LET'S GET THAT STRAIGHT. YOU LIAR.
SO, AND THAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE.
YOU LIE AND YOU DECEIVE PEOPLE AND MAKE EXCUSES. SO IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO THIS EVERY TIME, OR IS IT JUST ONLY CERTAIN PEOPLE THAT YOU DON'T LIKE? BECAUSE LET'S GO BACK AND CHECK YOUR PATTERN. HOW MANY TIMES YOU PULL ITEMS THAT WAS UNDER CONSENT ITEM WHEN YOU APPOINT A COUPLE OF PEOPLE? YOU DON'T.
WE KNOW THAT. WE COULD GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE VIDEOS. SO ARE YOU EITHER YOU'RE GOING TO APPOINT HIM OR YOU'RE NOT? BECAUSE THE BOTTOM LINE, I KNOW, YOU KNOW HIM TOO, CHRIS. SO AGAIN, YOU KNOW, HIS RECORD. YOU KNOW THAT PATRICK JONES DOESN'T LIKE HIM. SO I'M SURE YOU'RE GOING TO GO AGAINST HIM. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR.
BECAUSE I KNEW KEVIN WAS GOING TO PULL THAT. TO SAY, OH, BECAUSE HE WANTS TO MAKE SURE WHO WE'RE APPOINTING. NO, THERE'S OTHER PEOPLE YOU APPOINTED WITHOUT PULLING THOSE ITEMS. JUST SO YOU MAKE IT THAT CLEAR.
BECAUSE I THINK IT'S, I THINK IT'S SAD THAT YOU HAVE TO LIE TO CITIZENS INSTEAD OF BEING STRAIGHTFORWARD, YOU LIAR. UP NEXT IS KEN MURRAY, FOLLOWED BY ROCKY SLAUGHTER, ALAN KNOTT, THEN NICK GARDNER. IF I CALLED YOUR NAME, PLEASE GET IN THE QUEUE.
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I DON'T KNOW WHAT, SHE'S A WINGNUT. I HAVEN'T BEEN SUED FOR ANYTHING. AND, YOU KNOW, I VOLUNTARILY SERVE ON THIS BOARD, NOT BECAUSE I NEED THE 40 BUCKS A YEAR. I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR OVER 50 YEARS. AND THE ASSASSIN'S APPEALS BOARD IS A QUASI-JUDICIAL BODY EVIDENCE ON WHAT THE TAX BASIS SHOULD BE ON A PROPERTY IS PRESENTED BY THE ASSESSOR'S OFFICE. THE PEOPLE WHO APPEAR BEFORE THE ASSESSMENT APPEALS BOARD THINKS THEIR TAXES SHOULD BE LOWER, AND THEY OFTEN HIRE THEIR OWN ATTORNEYS AND APPRAISERS TO MAKE A COUNTER-ARGUMENT.THE ASSESSMENT APPEALS BOARD MAKES A DECISION BASED ON THE EVIDENCE PRESENTED. LIKE ANY OTHER BOARD OR COMMISSION, IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE NEW PEOPLE WHO DON'T LIKE YOU. IT'S MUCH LIKE BEING A SUPERVISOR. YOU DO IT LONG ENOUGH, PRETTY SOON, EVERYBODY HATES YOU. THAT'S JUST PART OF WHAT GOES WITH THE TURF. WE TRY TO BE OBJECTIVE. WE DON'T ALWAYS FIND IN FAVOR OF THE ASSESSOR'S OFFICE, NOR DO WE ALWAYS FIND IN FAVOR OF THE APPELLANT. I CAN ONLY THINK OF A COUPLE OF OCCASIONS IN THE YEARS I'VE BEEN ON THE BOARD WHERE THE APPELLANTS WERE REALLY UPSET. BUT THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS, THEY HAVE TO PRESUME. A COHERENT ARGUMENT ON WHY THE TAXES ARE TOO HIGH.
AND I HEAR A LOT OF INCOHERENT ARGUMENTS. I DON'T HAVE ANY GRUDGES. I'M NOT ON ANYBODY'S SIDE, AND I'M NOT ON ANYBODY'S POCKET. IT'S ABOUT MAKING THE BEST DECISION ONE CAN IN THE POSITION THEY'RE IN, JUST LIKE YOUR JOBS. IF ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS FOR ME. I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM. ANY OF YOU? NOPE, THIS IS YOUR TIME.
WELL, I DON'T NEED ANY MORE TIME. OKAY, THANK YOU. IF YOU DO WANT TO SIT UP WHEN ALL THIS PUBLIC COMMENT IS OVER, I MAY HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS. IF YOU WANT TO SIT CLOSER, UNLESS YOU'RE TRYING TO GET YOUR STEPS IN. UP NEXT IS ROCKY SLAUGHTER, FOLLOWED BY ALAN KNOTT, THEN NICK GARDNER. GOOD MORNING, CHAIR KELSTROM AND THE BOARD. MY NAME IS ROCKY SLAUGHTER AND I SERVE AS COUNSEL FOR BLOCK 7 RETAIL INVESTORS. I WAS HERE LAST MEETING, SO I'LL CUT TO THE CHASE. LAST TIME I DESCRIBED THAT, WE'RE THE OWNERS OF THE DOWNTOWN PARKING STRUCTURE, WHICH WE CAN PROBABLY SEE FROM THIS BUILDING. AND THE COUNTY HAS THAT ASSESSED AT $12.9 MILLION. AND WE GOT A CERTIFIED MAI APPRAISAL THAT SAID THAT THAT GARAGE IS WORTH $2.4 MILLION. AGAIN, $12.9, $2.4. THERE'S A BIG DISAGREEMENT HERE, AND IT'S NOT JUST A DIFFERENCE OF OPINION. IT'S WHO'S APPLYING THE CORRECT FORMULA AND WHO'S APPLYING THE WRONG FORMULA.
AND SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE GOT A BOARD IN FRONT OF US THAT'S GOING TO BE IMPARTIAL AND HASN'T SEEN THE FACTS BEFORE. THE APPOINTMENT THAT IS BEFORE YOU TODAY WAS SOMEBODY THAT SERVED ON A PRIOR BOARD. WHO'S ALREADY HEARD OUR CASE AND ALREADY BROADCAST THE OPINION THAT HE WOULD NOT CHANGE HIS MIND FOR FIVE YEARS. AND HE DID THIS IN OPEN HEARING, SO THIS IS PART OF THE PUBLIC RECORD. SO, YOU KNOW, TODAY I'M HERE TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE MOST ARGUED ABOUT FOUR-LETTER F-WORD, FAIR. EVERYONE IN THIS ROOM PAYS PROPERTY TAX OF SOME KIND. THE CALIFORNIA CONSTITUTION MANDATES THAT ALL OF OUR PROPERTY TAXES ARE CALCULATED TO REPRESENT THE FAIR MARKET VALUE. AS OF THE LIEN DATE, AND THE LIEN DATE IS JUST JANUARY 1ST. I DON'T SEE A TIMER, BY THE WAY. OKAY. WE GOT TO KEEP IT TO THE APPOINTMENTS OF THE PEOPLE, SO. YES. SO, OKAY. SO, WHEN YOU'RE CONSIDERING THE APPOINTMENTS, I THINK THE ASSESSOR'S OFFICE AND THE CLERK OF THE BOARD SHOULD BE GOOGLING. A LIST OF THE QUALIFIED ATTORNEYS, REAL ESTATE BROKERS, CPAS, AND APPRAISERS IN THE AREA.
WOULDN'T THAT BE FAIR? YOU WOULD CALL THESE PEOPLE AND
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YOU'D ASK THEM TO APPLY.WELL, I CALLED ALL THESE PEOPLE AFTER I GOOGLED THEIR NAMES, AND NONE OF THEM HAD HEARD FROM EITHER THE CLERK OF THE BOARD OR THE ASSESSOR'S OFFICE.
THEY'VE ONLY CALLED BACK ONE PERSON THAT'S AGREED WITH THEM IN THE PAST. AND I THINK I CAN CONNECT THE DOTS AND SEE WHY.
SO THE MOST IMPORTANT QUESTION WE CAN ASK TODAY OF THIS ENTIRE PROCESS IS, IS IT POSSIBLE TO DECIDE THIS IN THE NEXT MEETING? WHEN THE APPLICANTS THAT ARE IN FRONT OF YOU, WHICH ARE VERY QUALIFIED, THEY'RE THE NAMES YOU SEE ON TV, THEY'RE MAINSTREAM AS YOU CAN GET, THEY'RE ACTIVE IN TODAY'S MARKET. IS IT POSSIBLE TO MAKE THAT DECISION NEXT MEETING? NOT, IS IT GOING TO BE HARD, IS IT POSSIBLE? SO THIS IS ABOUT THE APPOINTMENTS TODAY? CORRECT. OKAY. YES. SO IS IT POSSIBLE TO DECIDE THIS IN THE NEXT MEETING? I THINK THAT'S THE MOST FAIR THING THAT COULD HAPPEN HERE, BECAUSE YOU'LL HEAR ALL THE APPLICANTS, YOU'LL SEE THEIR QUALIFICATIONS, AND MAKE A GOOD DECISION. THAT ENSURES FAIRNESS NOT ONLY FOR US, BUT FOR ALL TAXPAYERS IN THIS COUNTY. EVERYBODY DESERVES A FAIR SHOT OF IMPARTIALITY UNDER THE CONSTITUTION OF CALIFORNIA.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UP NEXT IS ALAN KNOTT, FOLLOWED BY NICK GARDNER, AND CHAIR, THAT WILL BE OUR LAST SPEAKER. GOOD MORNING, CHAIR KELSTROM, MEMBERS OF SHASTA COUNTY BOARD. I'M ALAN KNOTT WITH BLOCK 7 RETAIL INVESTORS AND ALSO CEO OF K2 DEVELOPMENT COMPANIES. I GREW UP HERE, GREW UP IN HAPPY VALLEY, AND I CARE TREMENDOUSLY ABOUT THIS COMMUNITY AND ABOUT EVERYONE IN THIS COMMUNITY. I GAVE THE LAST QUARTER OF MY LIFE A DECADE AND A HALF WORKING ON DOWNTOWN. WHEN I MOVED BACK TO REDDING, IT WAS BLIGHT, AND A LOT OF THE ASSETS WERE INTO LIFE, INCLUDING THE EXISTING PART, THE PRIOR PARKING GARAGE. THIS IS REALLY A SITUATION BETWEEN WALL STREET AND MAIN STREET.
IF YOU THINK OF WALL STREET, YOU THINK OF THE COSTCO SHOPPING CENTER AND A LOT OF THE WALL STREET ORGANIZATIONS THAT COME IN THERE. AND WHEN YOU THINK OF MAIN STREET, YOU THINK OF OUR LOCAL COMMUNITY, LOCAL BUSINESS OWNERS, LOCAL PEOPLE LIKE MYSELF.
THEY'RE TRYING TO MAKE THEIR LIVES AND THE COMMUNITY'S LIVES BETTER. PLACE FOR ALL OF US TO HANG OUT. SO THAT'S WHY I FOCUSED MY EFFORTS THERE. IT'S A TIGHT INTO KEN MURRAY AND JOSH DEVINE. OUR REQUEST IS THAT YOU SLOW DOWN THE PROCESS OF APPOINTING TO THE TWO OPEN POSITIONS TO NEXT MEETING. THAT WILL GIVE YOU TIME TO REVIEW ALL THE APPLICANTS.
WE'VE REWORKED THE LAST THREE YEARS WITH THE ASSESSOR'S OFFICE TO APPEAL THEIR CURRENT VALUATION OF THE GARAGE. I KNEW WE WERE AN UPHILL BATTLE WHEN THEY COMPARED THE VALUATION OF THE GARAGE TO A RECENT STARBUCKS TRANSACTION, AND IT WAS JUST APPLES AND ORANGES TO US. WE'VE HIRED AN INDEPENDENT MAI APPRAISER WHO GAVE THE GARAGE A $2.4 MILLION VALUATION VERSUS THE $2.9 MILLION VALUATION CURRENTLY ON THE GARAGE. THE TAXES ARE CURRENTLY TWO TIMES THE REVENUE. SO THIS IS ABOUT KEN MURRAY, CORRECT? OKAY. AND WHY IT'S SO IMPORTANT TO HAVE AN INDEPENDENT APPRAISER, INDEPENDENT APPEALS BOARD.
SEEN OUR CASE. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE TWO APPOINTMENTS TODAY. YEP. OKAY. CORRECT. I'LL GET RIGHT. LET ME WRAP THIS UP BECAUSE I GET WHERE YOU'RE GOING WITH THIS. AND I DON'T.
YEAH. SO, KEN MURRAY WAS ON THE LAST APPEALS BOARD AND FIRMLY STATED THAT HIS OPINION THAT HE WOULD NOT ASSESS THE VALUE OF THE GARAGE FOR AT LEAST FIVE YEARS. SO, TO REASSIGN HIM TO THE BOARD, WHEN WE ALREADY KNOW HIS OPINION ON WHAT THE VALUE OF THE GARAGE IS, THAT HE WOULD NOT REVIEW THE ASSESSED VALUE FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.
IN A WAY, IS STACKING THE BOARD AND NOT PUTTING AN INDEPENDENT VIEW OF THE VALUATION OF THE GARAGE. SO WE'RE ASKING THAT YOU REVIEW, TAKE NEXT MEETING, REVIEW MORE APPLICANTS, GET AN INDEPENDENT FAIR ASSESSMENT REVIEW BOARD IN FRONT OF US. AND AT THAT POINT, WE'LL PRESENT OUR CASE. WE DID HIRE CHUCK RYAN TO DO AN MAI APPRAISAL, AND HE'S THE ONE THAT GAVE US THE VALUE. AND IF WE NEED TO HIRE MORE APPRAISERS, WE WOULD. AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE'RE JUST LOOKING FOR A FAIR SHAKE HERE. OKAY.
THANK YOU. NEXT UP IS NICK GARDNER. AND, CHAIR, THAT IS OUR LAST SPEAKER. THANK YOU, MS. ANGEL. SO, NICK, KEEP IT TIED TO THE TWO APPOINTMENTS TODAY.
YES, SIR. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.
HE GOT ME INVOLVED WITH THE COMMUNITY, POLITICAL SCENE, WHAT'S GOING ON. HE WAS ON FREE FIRE RADIO, I DON'T KNOW, 15, 20 YEARS AGO. AND I MADE THE COMMENT THAT THE, THE CONTRACT WITH BIG LEAGUE DREAMS WAS RIDICULOUS BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO PAY RENT FOR FOUR YEARS. AND KEN CORRECTED ME. HE SAID THEY, IN FACT, PAID $250,000 THE SECOND YEAR AND THEY WERE GOING TO PAY MORE NEXT YEAR. AND HE CALLED ME IGNORANT. SO, YOU KNOW, I WENT AND GOT A COPY OF THE CONTRACT. AND GUESS WHO WAS IGNORANT? IT WAS KEN MURRAY. HE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT HE WAS TALKING ABOUT. I WOULDN'T PUT HIM ON ANY BOARD. AND THEN I SAW WHERE I REMEMBER. AND KEN MURRAY TOOK HIM AND HIS
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ENTOURAGE TO CHINA ON CITY OF REDDING MONEY TO VISIT THEIR SISTER CITY BACK THERE. AND HE TAKES CREDIT FOR BRINGING THE CHINESE IASCO PEOPLE TO REDDING. THEY HAD ALREADY BEEN IN READING FOR A WHILE. SO THERE'S ANOTHER THING THAT IS SUSPECT IN HIS INTEGRITY, IN MY OPINION. AND, OF COURSE, THEY'VE BEEN ACCUSED OF BEING SPIES OUT THERE. AND IT WOULDN'T SURPRISE ME, THIS WOULD BE THE PERFECT PLACE FOR IT, A LITTLE SMALL TOWN, AND THEY'RE OUT ON THE OUTSKIRTS, AND NOBODY'S PAYING ATTENTION.THAT'S RIGHT, I AM SO SORRY, CHRIS. ANYWAY, THEN, LATER, THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT FIRE DANGER, AND KENT WAS ON THE RADIO, AND HE SAID REDDING HAD A PLAN TO FIX A RING ROAD AROUND REDDING TO CONTROL FIRE, AND THAT WAS A COMPLETE BUNCH OF BS. SO I DON'T THINK KEN MURRAY SHOULD BE ON ANY BOARD.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. BOARD DISCUSSION.
SUPERVISOR LONG. THANK YOU, CHAIR. I WOULD LIKE TO BRING STEPHANIE BLANKENSHIP FORWARD.
AND STEPHANIE, YOU AND I HAVE TALKED AT LENGTH ABOUT THIS AND SOME TIMELINES.
BECAUSE THIS IS AN ANNUAL MEETING THAT OCCURS EVERY MAY, AND CAN YOU FILL THE BOARD IN ON ALL OF YOUR DISCUSSION AS TO THE TIMING, THE DEADLINES, AND THE NUMBER OF APPLICANTS? WE ONLY HAVE ONE ON THE BOARD NOW, AND THERE ARE TWO MORE THAT WOULD GIVE US A FULL BOARD, AND YOUR THOUGHTS ABOUT TIE-BREAKING AND VOTING, THAT WHOLE THING. SURE. SO LET ME KNOW IF I MISSED ANYTHING, BUT I'LL START OFF WITH THE CURRENT SEATS THAT WE HAVE FILLED. IT'S A THREE-MEMBER BOARD WITH AS MANY ALTERNATES AS THIS BOARD DEEMS APPROPRIATE. WITH THAT, WE ONLY HAVE ONE SEAT FILLED.
THE SECOND SEAT WAS FILLED BY MR. MURRAY HIMSELF. HE WAS PLANNING TO MOVE OUT OF STATE. ONCE HE REALIZED THAT WAS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN, HE CONTACTED THE CLERK OF THE BOARD'S OFFICE AND SAID THAT HE WOULD BE WILLING TO BASICALLY FINISH OUT HIS TERM, WHICH IS THE TERM THAT HE WOULD BE FILLING IF THE BOARD APPOINTS HIM TODAY. SO, THAT SAID, THAT WOULD GET HIM THROUGH SEPTEMBER OF 2026. WE ONLY HOLD ASSESSMENT APPEAL HEARINGS ONCE A YEAR.
TYPICALLY, THOSE ARE SCHEDULED SOMETIME APRIL OR MAY. THIS YEAR, OUR OUTSIDE COUNSEL HAS INFORMED US THAT HE'S NOT GOING TO BE AVAILABLE AT THE DATES THAT WE HAD SCHEDULED, WHICH ARE AT THE END OF APRIL. SO WE ARE GOING TO BE LOOKING TO SCHEDULE A SPECIAL MEETING ONCE WE HAVE A QUORUM TO CANCEL THE UPCOMING ASSESSMENT APPEAL HEARINGS AND NOTIFY THE APPELLANTS BASICALLY, THAT. THOSE HEARINGS ARE GOING TO BE RESCHEDULED AND THOSE ARE WE'RE ANTICIPATING AND SCHEDULING FOR MAY, AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE POTENTIAL APPLICANTS TO SEE THEIR AVAILABILITY. AS WELL AS THE CURRENT BOARD MEMBER AND OUTSIDE COUNSEL ON THAT. SO IN ORDER TO RESCHEDULE THOSE, WE WERE ACTUALLY HOPING TO HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING THIS WEEK SO WE COULD CANCEL THE UPCOMING ASSESSMENT APPEAL HEARINGS AND RESCHEDULE THEM. THAT SAID, WE DON'T HAVE A QUORUM TO DO THAT RIGHT NOW. A QUORUM OF A THREE-MEMBER BOARD IS TWO MEMBERS, AND CURRENTLY WE ONLY HAVE ONE, SO WE ARE AT LEAST LOOKING TO GET A QUORUM TODAY.
BUT AGAIN, THAT'S GOING TO BE UP TO THIS BOARD. HAVE WE HAD SOME MORE APPLICANTS? WE HAVE. YESTERDAY WE RECEIVED TWO APPLICANTS. I DO CAUTION THE BOARD WITH, YOU KNOW, I WANT TO JUST MAKE SURE THAT WHEN YOU DO REVIEW ANY APPLICANTS THAT YOU RECEIVE, THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THAT. WE DON'T WANT SOMEBODY TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, SHOW ANY FAVOR TO ANY PARTY THAT'S GOING TO BE COMING. YOU KNOW, WHEN THESE MEMBERS GET APPOINTED TO THIS BOARD, THEY DO TAKE AN OATH OF OFFICE. WHEN THEY'RE COMING UP, IF THERE'S ANY CONFLICTS DURING THE ASSESSMENT APPEALS HEARING, THEY DO NEED TO STATE THAT THERE'S A CONFLICT.
BECAUSE IT'S A THREE-MEMBER BOARD, IF ONE MEMBER CONFLICTS OUT, THEN IT CAUSES AN ISSUE WHERE WE ONLY HAVE TWO BOARD MEMBERS. IF IT'S A SPLIT DECISION, A SPLIT DECISION IS A NO VOTE.
SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S UNDERSTOOD. IT'S MY PREFERENCE AND RECOMMENDATION TO THE BOARD THAT WE HAVE ALL THREE SEATS FILLED, IF POSSIBLE. AND EVEN MORE SO, I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THE APPLICANTS WE RECEIVED YESTERDAY BE AGENDIZED AT A FUTURE MEETING TO FILL THE ALTERNATE SEATS, JUST IN CASE, FOR ANY REASON, A MEMBER HAS TO CONFLICT OUT, THAT ALTERNATE MEMBER CAN SIT IN FOR THEM, OR IF SOMEBODY'S NOT AVAILABLE.
STEPHANIE, I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT, SO IF YOU DON'T HAVE APPOINTEES AND WE CONSIDER THIS, PUSH THIS OUT UNTIL TWO WEEKS FROM NOW, THEN YOU WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO HAVE THAT MEETING TODAY BECAUSE YOU'VE ONLY GOT ONE BOARD MEMBER. THAT IS CORRECT. AND SO THAT MEETING WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO CANCEL THE APRIL MEETING, AND THEN WOULD THAT AFFECT THE MAY ANNUAL MEETING FOR THE APPEALS ASSESSMENT BOARD? WOULD IT PUSH THAT OUT SOMEWHERE WHERE WE COULDN'T HAVE THAT MAY MEETING AS WELL?
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YES. SO HOW THAT WORKS IS WE DON'T HAVE TO HOLD A SPECIAL MEETING NECESSARILY TO CANCEL A MEETING, SO THAT WOULDN'T BE THE ISSUE.THE ISSUE IS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET THE MEETING IN MAY RESCHEDULED TO CERTAIN DATES.
AND WE ARE COMING UP REAL CLOSE TO THAT 45-DAY WINDOW WHERE WE HAVE TO SEND NOTICES OUT. I BELIEVE, KRISTEN, IF YOU CAN CORRECT ME, THIS FRIDAY IS THE DATE FOR THE MAY. IT MIGHT BE NEXT WEEK, BUT I KNOW IT'S COMING UP. SO WE'RE ANTICIPATING HOLDING OR RESCHEDULING THE ASSESSMENT APPEALS TO MAY 20TH TO MAY 22ND, AND WE DO HAVE TO HAVE THOSE NOTICES APPEARING IN HAND TO THE APPELLANTS 45 DAYS IN ADVANCE OF THAT. AND WHAT HAPPENS IF THE MEETING, THAT USUALLY OCCURS IN MAY, WAS PUSHED OUT TO JUNE? WE COULD PUSH IT OUT TO JUNE. THERE'S NO REQUIREMENT THAT THEY HAVE TO HAPPEN BY A CERTAIN TIME.
MY ONLY PREFERENCE IS THAT WE, YOU KNOW, WORK WITH THE BOARD MEMBERS TO GET SOMETHING RESCHEDULED AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. I KNOW THESE APPELLANTS, THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR PAYING THEIR TAXES, EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE WAITING FOR THEIR HEARING. AND SO WE'RE JUST TRYING TO GET THE HEARINGS DONE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. SO WE'RE, I MEAN, UNDER THIS SCENARIO, TWO WEEKS FROM NOW, WE CONSIDER ALL THE APPLICANTS.
AND THEN THE MEETING ENDS UP BEING DELAYED, GETS SCHEDULED FOR JUNE. IT'S NOT GOING TO REALLY AFFECT ANY OF THE APPELLANTS OTHER THAN THE FACT THAT THEY WOULD HAVE ANOTHER MONTH OF TAX LIABILITY. YES, AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING, LIKE I SAID, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH OUTSIDE COUNSEL, AND WE'VE ALSO BEEN WORKING WITH A CURRENT BOARD MEMBER.
ON THEIR AVAILABILITY, SO IT WOULD HAVE TO BE IN COORDINATION WITH THEM ON WHAT THEIR AVAILABILITY IS.
REGARDLESS. DOESN'T MATTER IF I BRING FIVE OR TEN PEOPLE TO YOU, I'M GOING TO PROBABLY ASK YOU TO APPOINT ALL OF THEM. SOME OF THEM ARE GOING TO BE MAIN MEMBERS, SOME OF THEM ARE GOING TO BE ALTERNATE MEMBERS. AND SO, EVEN IF WE BROUGHT THOSE APPLICANTS FORWARD IN THE FUTURE, I WOULD STILL BE LOOKING AT THEM AS ALTERNATE MEMBERS OR MEMBERS. EITHER WAY, I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE ALL OF THEM. DOES IT HAVE TO BE A THREE-MEMBER BOARD OR COULD IT BE A FIVE-MEMBER BOARD? IT HAS TO BE A THREE-MEMBER BOARD, BUT AGAIN, WE CAN HAVE AS MANY ALTERNATES AS WE WANT, AND THAT'S VERY HELPFUL TO US. BECAUSE A THREE-MEMBER BOARD, IF ONE PERSON CONFLICTS OUT, IT PRESENTS AN ISSUE. OR COULD POTENTIALLY PRESENT AN ISSUE. AND IF THEY CONFLICTED OUT, COULD THE ALTERNATE TAKE THEIR PLACE AT THAT TIME? OKAY, THANK YOU. LET ME ASK YOU THIS QUESTION, TOO, BECAUSE I RESPECT PROCESS, AND YOU SET A DEADLINE FOR APPLICATION, AND THE REMAINING CANDIDATES THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NOW, THEY DIDN'T MEET THE DEADLINE.
AND SO HOW HARD... THERE'S NO DEADLINE. SO WHEN WE HAVE A NOTICE OF VACANCY, WE POST THAT NOTICE OF VACANCY IMMEDIATELY. WE JUST CAN'T BRING APPOINTMENTS FORWARD UNTIL THAT NOTICE HAS BEEN POSTED FOR 15 DAYS. SO THAT'S REALLY OUR ONLY TIMELINE. WE CAN'T JUST BRING SOMEBODY BACK. WELL, THERE WAS NOT A CUTOFF THAT THESE FOLKS MISSED. IF THERE'S AN OPENING, WE WILL ACCEPT APPLICATIONS. A LOT OF TIMES WE ACCEPT APPLICATIONS, EVEN WHEN THERE IS NO OPENING, IN THE EVENT THAT AN OPENING COMES UP. CONTINUOUSLY. YEAH.
OKAY. OKAY, THANK YOU. DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? YES, IT DOES. THANK YOU.
SUPERVISOR CRYE. THANK YOU, CHAIR. I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION FOR MR. MURRAY. IF YOU CAN JUST STEP BACK FOR A SEC, STEPH, BECAUSE I'LL BRING YOU BACK UP. MR. MURRAY, ONE OF THE SPEAKERS, HAD TALKED ABOUT YOU NOT REVISITING SOMETHING FOR FIVE YEARS, AND I KNOW THAT'S JUST ONE EXAMPLE, BUT ARE THERE, I MEAN, DID YOU MAKE THAT STATEMENT ABOUT YOU WOULDN'T REVIEW SOMETHING FOR FIVE YEARS? WELL, I DON'T RECALL MAKING THAT STATEMENT, BUT I DON'T HAVE ANY CONTROL OVER THAT ANYWAY. THE BOARD ACTS ON WHATEVER THE ASSESSOR OR THE APPELLANT BRINGS BEFORE THE BOARD. OKAY. I WOULD SAY THIS. OH, YEAH, GO AHEAD.
THAT THIS PARKING LOT THING, APPARENTLY, I DON'T REMEMBER THE ARGUMENTS ABOUT IT, FRANKLY. I'M NOW HEARING THAT THEY HAVE AN MAI APPRAISAL THAT IS WILDLY DIFFERENT THAN THE ASSESSOR'S OFFICE APPRAISAL. ALL OF THAT'S EVIDENCE. ALL I KNOW, ALL I KNOW FOR A FACT, IS...
WE CAN'T DISCUSS THAT CASE RIGHT NOW. IT DOESN'T MATTER.
OKAY. ALL I KNOW IS THAT ANY APPLICANT BEFORE THE BOARD HAS THE ONUS TO PRESENT A CASE THAT'S COHERENT. THANK YOU. I DON'T THINK THEY DID. OKAY. THANK YOU. MS. BLANKENSHIP, I HAVE A QUESTION. SO, FIRST OF ALL, IS THIS ASSESSMENT APPEALS BOARD, DOES THIS FALL UNDER THE ASSESSOR RECORDER LESLIE MORGAN? I MEAN, DOES SHE RECRUIT FOR THIS OR DOES YOUR OFFICE RECRUIT FOR THIS? NO. CLERK OF THE BOARD RECRUITS. CLERK OF THE BOARD, OKAY. THANK YOU.
AND I DO JUST WANT TO RESPOND TO ONE THING. WHEN A DECISION IS MADE AT THE ASSESSMENT AND APPEAL BOARD, IT'S NOT ONE MEMBER OF THE BOARD. IT IS THE ENTIRE BOARD. ABSOLUTELY.
OBVIOUSLY, IT'S NOT ALWAYS UNANIMOUS, BUT NONETHELESS, A DECISION MADE IS A DECISION MADE BY THE BOARD,
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NOT AN INDIVIDUAL. PERFECT.AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TWO APPOINTMENTS RIGHT NOW. SO WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW, FOR ME, I MEAN, THIS IS ABOUT PROTECTING THE TAXPAYER.
AND WE HAVE PEOPLE SITTING ON MANY BOARDS THAT DON'T CARE ABOUT CHILDREN, THAT SIT ON BOARDS WITH CHILDREN. WE HAVE MANY BOARDS THAT...
AFFECT TAXPAYERS GREATLY, AND THEIR CONCERN IS GROWING GOVERNMENT. AND FOR ME, I HAVE A REALLY HARD TIME.
WHEN I HEAR ABOUT OUTSIDE COUNCILS SCHEDULE AFFECTING COUNTY BUSINESS, THEN WE GET ANOTHER OUTSIDE COUNCIL. I'M SO SICK AND TIRED OF BUREAUCRATS RUNNING THIS COUNTY AND DIRECTING WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO DO. COUNCIL LARMER CAN YOU GET ANOTHER OUTSIDE COUNCIL TO WORK ON THIS IF WE HAVE TO? I CAN ANSWER THAT I'M GONNA ASK COUNCIL LARMER, BECAUSE COUNCIL LARMER IS LIKE, I KNOW HE'S OUR HEAD COUNSEL, SO I WANT TO UNDERSTAND.
BECAUSE WHEN I HEAR THAT WE'RE HELD CAPTIVE BY OUTSIDE COUNSEL, NOT WORKING WITH THEIR SCHEDULE, I MEAN, I DON'T CARE. LIKE, GET SOMEONE WHO CAN FIT OUR SCHEDULE. THIS IS A LONGSTANDING CONTRACT THAT THE BOARD PUTS IN PLACE AND RENEWS. THE BOARD IS IN CONTROL OF THAT CONTRACT. OKAY, WELL, SO WHAT DO YOU WANT TO RESPOND TO, MS. BLANKENSHIP? SO THE CLERK OF THE BOARD HOLDS THAT CONTRACT.
WE CAN CERTAINLY GO OUT FOR AN RFP, BUT THAT DOESN'T NEGATE THE FACT THAT ANY FUTURE OUTSIDE COUNCIL THAT WE CHOOSE MAY HAVE THE SAME ISSUE. WE DO SCHEDULE THESE A WHOLE YEAR IN ADVANCE. WE DO OUR BEST TO TRY AND MITIGATE THE FACT THAT ALL THE INDIVIDUALS THAT SIT ON THE BOARD ARE VERY BUSY DURING TAX SEASON. AND SO, YOU KNOW, THAT SAID, THE CLERK OF THE BOARD CAN CERTAINLY GO OUT FOR RFP, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT IT WILL PREVENT US FROM HAVING THIS ISSUE IN THE FUTURE. WE ARE VERY MINDFUL, AND SO IS OUTSIDE COUNSEL.
HE'S DONE A FANTASTIC JOB WITH US, BUT WE ARE VERY MINDFUL OF SCHEDULING THESE THINGS AS FAR OUT AS WE POSSIBLY CAN, BUT ALSO KNOWING THAT IT MAY NEED TO CHANGE. ABSOLUTELY.
AND SOMETIMES THESE THINGS ARE JUST PUT ON US AS A BOARD. IT COMES, I MEAN, NOW THAT I'M NOT CHAIR, AND I WAS CHAIR THE PREVIOUS TWO YEARS, SO I'M VERY AWARE THAT WE CAN HOLD A SPECIAL MEETING TOMORROW WITHIN 24 HOURS, OR THURSDAY OR FRIDAY.
AND MAKE SURE THE PROCESS, BECAUSE I THINK THIS APPEALS BOARD, LIKE, I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE FOR ME, AND THIS MAY NOT BE A PERFECT EXAMPLE, BUT I BOUGHT A HOUSE RECENTLY THAT WAS GREATLY VALUED. I MEAN, WE GOT A GREAT DEAL. SOMEONE WANTED TO MOVE, WE MOVED ON IT. AND SO WHEN YOU GO THROUGH THIS APPEALS PROCESS, IT'S VERY RELEVANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE PEOPLE THERE THAT ARE THINKING ABOUT THE TAXPAYER AND NOT ABOUT THE BUREAUCRACY OF IT.
SO MY NEXT QUESTION IS, YOU HAVE TWO NEW PEOPLE. ONE OF THEM IS IN CHAMBERS, WHO I QUASI-RECRUITED TODAY.
BECAUSE I SAID, HOW HARD IS IT TO FIND PEOPLE THAT ACTUALLY WOULD WANT TO BE ON THIS BOARD? SO I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE EITHER HOLD A SPECIAL MEETING OR WE DON'T VOTE ON THIS. WE BRING THE FOUR CANDIDATES THAT WANT TO BE ON THIS AND VET THEM EITHER AT A MEETING ON THURSDAY, BECAUSE WE CAN TURN THIS AROUND QUICK. BECAUSE YOU HAVE TWO NEW APPLICANTS, SO THERE'S FOUR PEOPLE, CORRECT? SO RIGHT NOW WE HAVE FOUR APPLICANTS WHO ARE LOOKING TO HAVE A SEAT, AND I WOULD BE WILLING, I WOULD BE WANTING TO BRING ALL FOUR OF THOSE BACK. I WOULD ASK THAT WE MAKE AN APPOINTMENT TODAY, WHETHER IT'S OF ONE OR BOTH, SO WE AT LEAST HAVE A QUORUM SO WE CAN RESCHEDULE THOSE HEARINGS. NO, NO, ABSOLUTELY NOT. LIKE, I MEAN, I THINK WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TWO DAYS. WE CAN, AND AGAIN, I'M JUST ONE PERSON, BUT WE HAVE A CHANCE RIGHT NOW AS A BOARD TO IMPACT THE TAXPAYER, PROTECT THE TAXPAYER. AND GUESS WHAT? IF MR. MURRAY COMES BACK AND HE'S THE BEST, HE'LL HAVE MY VOTE.
BUT THERE'S 80, IS THERE 84 BOARDS AND COMMITTEES AND COMMISSIONS IN THE COUNTY? ROUGHLY 80 PLUS. 80 PLUS. SO AS THIS BOARD NAVIGATES THEIR LIVES AND EVERYTHING ELSE, THERE'S SOME BOARDS THAT I THINK EACH OF US TAKE MORE OF A VESTED INTEREST IN. AND WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE TAXPAYER AND ABOUT SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS.
AND ATTRACTING PEOPLE TO THIS COUNTY, I THINK THIS BOARD IS CRITICAL.
AND SO I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE BRING THIS BACK AT A SPECIAL MEETING AT THE CHAIR'S DIRECTION OF THURSDAY, FRIDAY, WHATEVER DAY.
IT COULD BE IN 24 HOURS FROM 1030, AS LONG AS IT GETS AGENDIZED.
STEPHANIE, I HAVE A CLARIFYING QUESTION. HOLD ON, SUPERVISOR.
WELL, HOLD ON. I'VE MADE A MOTION. IS THERE A SECOND? WELL, SO I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM HAVING ANOTHER MEETING, BUT I COULD JUST WAIT UNTIL TWO WEEKS FROM NOW.
OKAY, SO I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING.
LIKE I MENTIONED BEFORE, IT DOESN'T TAKE A SPECIAL MEETING TO CANCEL THE HEARINGS. I WAS JUST LOOKING TO GET THEM RESCHEDULED AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, IF THIS BOARD DECIDES THAT THEY WANT MORE TIME, THEY CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT. I WOULD POST A NOTICE OF CANCELLATION. WE WOULD STILL HAVE TO SCHEDULE A SPECIAL HEARING, BUT THAT WOULD BE DONE AFTER I HAVE A QUORUM. I'LL SECOND IT IF YOU JUST HAVE IT, COME BACK IN TWO WEEKS. WELL, HERE'S MY QUESTION. I KNOW WE HAVE KIND OF A SCHEDULE THAT WE WERE PLANNING TO HIT, BUT IT DIDN'T SEEM LIKE THERE WAS. WELL, FOR ME... AND YOU NEED TO HIT THAT SCHEDULE, SO... I'M COMPLETELY FINE AMENDING MY MOTION, BUT I HEAR HOW CRITICAL IT IS.
THAT YOU WANT TO APPOINT THESE PEOPLE TODAY SO WE CAN GET A QUORUM, SO YOU CAN MOVE THE MEETING.
SO I'M LIKE, WHICH IS IT? IS IT IMPORTANT OR NOT? BUT I HAVE A QUESTION. HOLD ON.
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SUPERVISOR PLUMMER IS IN QUEUE. SO, SUPERVISOR, WHEN YOU'RE DONE... NO, SUPERVISOR PLUMMER IS ASKING ME TO AMEND MY MOTION AS A SECOND, SO I'M TRYING TO CLARIFY SO I CAN AMEND IT.AND I'M JUST SAYING, STEPHANIE, IT'S UP TO YOU.
LIKE, I, I VALUE YOUR JUDGMENT AND YOUR INPUT. AND SO IF YOU'RE SAYING YOU CAN WAIT TWO WEEKS, I'M GREAT TO AMEND IT. BUT IF YOU SAY, HEY, I WANT IT DONE, YOU KNOW. MY PREFERENCE WOULD BE TO MAKE AN APPOINTMENT TODAY, WHETHER THAT'S ONE OR BOTH. IF THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN TODAY, I AM CERTAINLY HAPPY TO RE-AGENDIZE THIS AT THE MARCH 24TH AGENDA. OKAY.
THEN, AGAIN, THAT'S ODD TO ME THAT YOU WOULD WANT IT TODAY OR IN TWO WEEKS. BUT THAT'S FINE.
I'LL AMEND MY MOTION TO TWO WEEKS. THAT'S FINE.
PLUMMER SECONDED. I AMENDED MY MOTION. THANK YOU. SUPERVISOR PLUMMER. YEAH, THAT'S WHERE I WAS GOING TO GO, TOO. SO I'M GOOD WITH THAT MOTION, AS IT STANDS, AMENDED. OKAY.
SUPERVISOR LONG. AND I'M GOING TO BE GOOD WITH THE TWO WEEKS AS WELL TO GIVE A THOROUGH VIEW OF ALL APPLICANTS. SO MY QUESTION FOR YOU IS IF WE WERE TO HAVE PURSUED THIS PATH, WHICH IT SOUNDS LIKE WE HAVE NOT. PURSUING THIS TOMORROW OR THE NEXT DAY. MY POINT WAS GOING TO BE THAT THESE FOLKS, THESE OTHER APPLICANTS HAVE NOT BEEN QUALIFIED YET, AND THAT YOU DON'T REALLY KNOW IF THEY'RE SUITABLE FOR THESE POSITIONS.
AND THAT MIGHT BE, IS THAT CORRECT? NO, WE HAVE CONFIRMED THAT THEY ARE QUALIFIED. YOU HAVE DONE ALL THE BACKGROUND ON THEM? YEAH.
OKAY, THAT WAS... IT'S DIFFERENT FROM YESTERDAY. THAT WAS DIFFERENT FROM YESTERDAY.
WHEN I TALKED TO YOU YESTERDAY, WE HAVE...
AND SUPERVISOR LONG, JUST SO, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE TWO OF THE BIGGEST NAMES IN REAL ESTATE, AND THERE MIGHT BE ACTUALLY MORE COMING. I KNOW, BUT YESTERDAY I TALKED WITH STEPHANIE AND SHE SAID THAT THEY ARE NOT QUALIFIED, SO THAT WAS THAT... OKAY. I SAID I WASN'T SURE IF THEY WERE QUALIFIED. YEAH, SURE. THEY HAVE BEEN RECEIVED. YEAH, OKAY.
THAT'S THE END OF MY CONVERSATION. OKAY, BEFORE WE GO TO YOU, SUPERVISOR LONG, IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE THERE'S ONLY CONTROVERSY OVER ONE APPOINTMENT TODAY.
NO, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE NOT SPEAKING FOR ME. IT'S THE WHOLE PROCESS OF MAKING SURE... I'M NOT SPEAKING FOR YOU. I'M SPEAKING FOR THE CROWD THAT CAME UP HERE AND TALKED IN PUBLIC. COMMENT. SO IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S ONLY BEEN ONE PERSON THAT THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE SPOKEN HAVE ANY CONCERNS WITH. SO JOSH DEVINE, I DIDN'T HEAR A SINGLE WORD ABOUT JOSH DEVINE. SO IF WE WERE TO APPOINT JOSH DEVINE TODAY, WOULD THAT GIVE YOU THE QUORUM THAT YOU NEEDED MOVING FORWARD TO GET THE REST OF THE MEMBERS IN THERE? I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR THAT. OKAY, I'LL MAKE A MOTION FOR THAT. I MAKE THE MOTION TO GO AHEAD AND APPOINT JOSH DEVINE TODAY. AND THEN PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA TWO WEEKS FROM NOW FOR THE OTHER THREE REMAINING CANDIDATES AT THIS POINT ,AND THERE POSSIBLY MAY BE MORE BY INTO WITHIN TWO WEEKS. I'LL SECOND THAT FOR PURPOSE OF DISCUSSION. OKAY, SO I'LL GO SO, SUPERVISOR CRYE, SO HOW? HOW MANY TIMES YOU TALKED TO SUPER? OR SUPERVISOR? CONGRATULATIONS, MR. DEVINE, YOU GOT A PROMOTION ANYWAY.
HOW MANY TIMES HAVE YOU SPOKEN TO MR. DEVINE DO YOU KNOW HIM? NO, HE WAS THEN, HE SPOKE.
LAST MEETING. YES, OKAY, OKAY, WELL. YEAH, I'M NOT GOING TO SUPPORT IT BECAUSE WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS, BUT AGAIN, IF WE'RE PUTTING SOMEBODY ON, WE'RE NOW GIVING THAT BOARD A MAJORITY OF TWO, THREE. AND I PERSONALLY WANT TO SEE ALL THE CANDIDATES UP HERE. I WANT TO VET THEM. SO I'M NOT GOING TO SUPPORT IT. HOW ARE YOU GIVING THEM A MAJORITY? THE BOARD'S OF THREE. NO, WE'RE GIVING THEM A QUORUM. WE'RE NOT GIVING THEM A MAJORITY. WE'RE GIVING THEM A QUORUM. THERE'S THREE PEOPLE ON THE BOARD.
JOSH CAME HERE LAST MEETING AND SPOKE AGAINST THE APPOINTMENTS AT THAT MEETING. GOTCHA. AND THAT'S WHEN WE FOUND OUT THAT HE WAS QUALIFIED, SO HE THREW HIS HAT IN THE RING. I MEAN, I'M JUST, I'M GOING TO VOTE NO, AND IT'S NO OFFENSE AGAINST MR. DEVINE. I HAVEN'T HEARD HIM, AND I WANT TO STACK, I MEAN, I WANT THE BEST. I DON'T WANT TO JUST RAM SOMETHING THROUGH SO STEPHANIE CAN RESCHEDULE HER MEETING. ALL RIGHT. SUPERVISOR LONG.
STEPHANIE, KIND OF A CLARIFYING QUESTION. WHAT KIND OF HARDSHIP IS THIS GOING TO PLACE ON YOU IF WE DON'T SEAT SOMEONE TODAY? AND YOU HAVE TO RESCHEDULE, AND THIS MEETING COULD END UP BEING PUSHED OUT INTO JUNE FOR THE APPEALS PROCESS BOARD.
SO I WANT TO TAKE CARE OF STAFF, AND I WANT TO TAKE CARE OF YOU, AND I WANT TO TAKE CARE OF THE PROCESS. BUT I ALSO LIKE THE IDEA OF A FULL LOOK AT ALL APPLICANTS TO MAKE THE BEST DECISION FOR THIS POSITION. SURE. SO WHAT I WOULD SAY TO THAT IS IT'S NOT GOING TO PUT ANY HARDSHIP OR BURDEN ON MY STAFF. WE'VE ALREADY DONE THE FOOTWORK TO TRY AND GET THEM RESCHEDULED, AND WE'VE DETERMINED A DATE THAT WOULD WORK BEST FOR BOTH THE CURRENT BOARD MEMBER, OUTSIDE COUNCIL, AND THE TWO POTENTIAL CANDIDATES. CAN WE LOOK AT FUTURE OTHER DATES? ABSOLUTELY. AT A LATER DATE, THAT'S FINE. ONE THING THAT I'LL SAY IS THAT, LIKE MR. MURRAY SAID, THIS IS A VOLUNTEER POSITION, IT IS VERY HARD TO RECRUIT FOR. I AM VERY HAPPY TO SEE TWO OTHER APPLICANTS. I HAVE NEVER, IN MY TIME IN THIS POSITION, SEEN SO MANY APPLICANTS FOR THE ASSESSMENT APPEALS BOARD. WE DO OUTREACH. WE POST THINGS ON OUR INTERNET PAGE.
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ON SOCIAL MEDIA. WE POST THINGS TO THE LIBRARY. WE PUT THINGS UP ON OUR VIDEO WALL BEFORE EVERY MEETING, TRYING TO GET PEOPLE INVOLVED. WE REACH OUT A LOT OF TIMES TO BOARD MEMBERS TO ASK IF THEY KNOW ANYBODY.OFTENTIMES, WE ASK EVEN CURRENT SITTING BOARD MEMBERS, YOU KNOW, DO YOU KNOW ANYBODY? KRISTEN'S GONE THROUGH, AND I THINK A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC EVEN MENTIONED THIS, WE HAVE GONE THROUGH AND LITERALLY GOOGLED EXPERTS.
WE'VE REACHED OUT TO THEM VIA EMAIL IN THE PAST. SO WE DO HAVE OUTREACH EFFORTS OUT THERE.
AT THE END OF THE DAY, I'M JUST EXCITED THAT FOUR MEMBERS WANT TO SIT ON THIS BOARD, AND I'M HAPPY TO TAKE THEM.
OKAY. WOULD IT BE MY RECOMMENDATION THAT WE RESCHEDULE TO THE DATE THAT WE'VE ALREADY WORKED OUT? YES, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, IF THAT DOESN'T WORK, IT'S, IT'S NOT THE END OF THE WORLD. WE CAN EASILY RESCHEDULE THEM TO A LATER DATE. YOU COULD EASILY ADAPT TO THIS PROCESS IF IT CHANGES A LITTLE BIT TO ACCOMMODATE A LOOK AT ALL FOUR. JUST BECAUSE WE'VE DONE SOME FOOTWORK DOESN'T MEAN WE CAN'T DO MORE, SO IT'S FINE. AND ALL FOUR CANDIDATES COULD BE EVALUATED EQUALLY IN TWO WEEKS FROM NOW, AND THAT WOULD STILL ALLOW YOU TO CONTINUE WITH YOUR PROCESS. NOT REALLY AFFECTED? YES. MY BIGGEST THING IS THAT ONCE ALL INDIVIDUALS HAVE BEEN VERIFIED THAT THEY QUALIFY, THAT'S THE IMPORTANT THING TO ME. I DON'T TAKE A LOOK AT THEIR SOCIAL MEDIA POSTS. I DON'T TAKE A LOOK AT HOW WELL THEY'RE LIKED IN THE PUBLIC. I DON'T LOOK AT ANY OF THAT. THAT IS NOT MY JOB. MY RESPONSIBILITY IS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE QUALIFIED. AND ALL THE APPLICANTS THAT WE WILL EVER BRING FORWARD TO YOU FOR ANY BOARD ARE GOING TO BE QUALIFIED FOR THAT SPECIFIC BOARD. THANK YOU. WOULD IT HELP FOR YOU TO HAVE A QUORUM TODAY IF WE WERE TO APPOINT ONE PERSON AND THEN TWO WEEKS FROM NOW VET THE OTHER? YES, AND THE REASON FOR THAT, LIKE I SAID, IS ONLY BECAUSE I'VE ALREADY REACHED OUT AND SET TENTATIVE DATES FOR THE RESCHEDULE SO WE COULD GET THOSE NOTICES OF HEARING OUT.
AND THEN MARCH 24TH, WE COULD BRING FORWARD ALL THE OTHER CANDIDATES FOR THE BOARD TO CONSIDER. OKAY. SUPERVISOR PLUMMER. YOU'RE DONE SUPERVISING THE ONE WE'RE, CORRECT? YES. OKAY.
SUPERVISOR PLUMMER. YEAH, I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY THAT I'M IN FAVOR OF HAVING ALL FOUR COME BACK NEXT WEEK OR TWO WEEKS FROM NOW. I THINK, YOU KNOW, I HAD A GOOD CONVERSATION WITH KEN MURRAY THIS PAST WEEK.
AND BASED ON ONE PUBLIC COMMENT FROM JOSH DEVINE, THAT DOESN'T, IF WE'RE GOING TO EVALUATE THEM EQUALLY, THEN I WANT TO SEE ALL FOUR COME BACK. SO THAT'S WHERE I STAND. YEAH, AND I'M JUST GOING TO SPEAK TO SUPERVISORS LONG AND HARMON. I KNOW WHERE SUPERVISOR KELSTROM STANDS, AND I RESPECT THAT. I WOULD SAY TO YOU GUYS, I MEAN, YOU JUST, LIKE STEPHANIE SAID, IT'S NO PROBLEM. AND YOU WANT TO SUPERVISOR LONG, YOU JUST SAID YOU'D LIKE TO SEE ALL FOUR. AND THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING. LIKE, I ONLY KNOW ONE PERSON. IT'S THE PERSON I RECRUITED. AND I THINK THAT'S A CHALLENGE TO ALL FIVE OF US, THAT WHEN STEPHANIE REACHES OUT AND SAYS, HEY, WE'VE GOT OPENING ON THIS BOARD, I MEAN, ALL OF US MEET WITH CONSTITUENTS THAT SAY, BOY, I REALLY APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'RE DOING. AND WE CAN EASILY SAY, HEY, THEN WHY DON'T YOU HELP AND GET ON X BOARD? EVERY TIME I'VE DONE THAT, I'VE GOT PEOPLE TO COME OUT. THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED LAST MEETING. WELL, EXACTLY. SO I'M JUST ASKING YOU GUYS TO, LIKE, YOU KNOW, I'M.
FOR THE PUBLIC AND FOR THE TAXPAYER, LET'S OPEN THIS UP AND GET THE FOUR HERE, AND LET'S GET THE RIGHT PEOPLE.
AND LET'S JUST NOT DO IT FOR BUREAUCRACY'S SAKE.
SUPERVISOR HARMON. TURN YOUR MIC ON. NO BIG HURRY. IT'S ON.
TWO WEEKS. LET'S TAKE THE VOTE.
MOTION ON THE TABLE WAS TO APPOINT JOSH DEVINE TODAY, WHICH WOULD GIVE MS. BLANKENSHIP. A QUORUM WHERE SHE COULD MOVE FORWARD. AND THEN WE'LL BRING THE, AND I'M ALL FOR BRINGING THE OTHER ONES BACK IN TWO WEEKS.
BUT THE MOTION ON THE TABLE NOW IS TO APPOINT JOSH DEVINE TODAY.
SUPERVISOR LONG, YOU SECOND THAT. DO YOU WANT TO PULL THAT? DO YOU WANT TO PULL YOUR SECOND? I SECOND IT FOR DISCUSSION PURPOSES ONLY.
THAT IS NOT INDICATIVE OF MY VOTE.
BUT YOU CAN PULL IT TO SAVE US THE VOTE IF YOU WANT. YOU CAN PULL YOUR SECOND. YOU WANT TO PULL YOUR SECOND? I'LL PULL MY SECOND. OKAY. SO NOW THE MOTION ON THE TABLE IS TO BRING EVERYBODY BACK TWO WEEKS FROM NOW. SO. YES, MY MOTION.
MOTION BY CRYE, SECONDED BY PLUMMER. CAN WE HAVE A ROLL CALL VOTE, STARTING WITH SUPERVISOR LONG? SUPERVISOR LONG? YES. SUPERVISOR HARMON? YES. SUPERVISOR KELSTROM? YES.
[C7 Approve an agreement with Mediko, Inc., with no maximum compensation for comprehensive medical services and support to the Shasta County Jail for the period July 1, 2026, through June 30, 2029, with two automatic one-year renewals.]
RIGHT. PASSES 5-0. THANK YOU.THANK YOU, MR. MURRAY AND ALL THE OTHER PEOPLE THAT CAME AND SPOKE. ALL RIGHT, MOVING ON TO C7. SUPERVISOR PLUMMER, YOU PULLED THIS? YES, AND I HAD A GOOD CONVERSATION LATE YESTERDAY WITH JEN ROSSI, THE SHERIFF, AND HIS TEAM, SO I'LL ASK THEM TO COME UP.
AND THE MAIN REASON FOR PULLING THIS IS THAT, IF WE LOOK AT THE JAIL MEDICAL AS, OU KNOW, SOME OF YOU ALL MAY KNOW, BUT IT COMES OUT OF OUR GENERAL FUND, AND THIS WOULD BE OUR CURRENT BUDGETED AMOUNT FOR THIS CURRENT FISCAL YEAR IS $5.5 MILLION. THIS CONTRACT IS FOR OVER $25 MILLION, WHICH AVERAGES TO ABOUT $8.3 MILLION PER YEAR, SO IT'S A $3 MILLION INCREASE. AND THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S A 40% INCREASE, WHICH IS REALLY SIGNIFICANT.
THAT MONEY COMES PRIMARILY, IF NOT ENTIRELY, WELL,
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THERE'S SOME NUANCE TO IT, BUT PRIMARILY OUT OF OUR GENERAL FUND. AND SO BEFORE APPROVING AN INCREASE OF THAT MAGNITUDE, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE KNEW WHAT WE WERE GETTING FOR THE ADDED COSTS AND WERE ABLE TO HAVE A BETTER SENSE OF WHAT THE ALTERNATIVE OPTIONS WERE TO SEE, YOU KNOW, RELATIVE TO THE OTHER APPLICANTS, YOU KNOW, DOES THIS MAKE SENSE GOING FORWARD. SO WOULD LOVE TO HEAR FROM THE TEAM. AND I KNOW YOU ANSWERED THIS FOR ME YESTERDAY AND I'VE LOOKED INTO THE CONTRACTS, BUT WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE CURRENT CONTRACT, WHICH WE HAVE WITH WELLPATH VERSUS THIS CONTRACT, THAT WOULD BE WITH MEDCO. AND THAT INCREASE IN EXPENSE.COULD YOU SHARE BRIEFLY, WHAT ARE WE GETTING OUT OF THAT? THAT IS DIFFERENT TO WHATEVER ONE OF YOU THAT WANT TO SPEAK TO IT? THANK YOU, CHAIR AND BOARD. EXCUSE ME. I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU KIND OF AN OVERVIEW OF THE PROCESS AND HOW WE GOT HERE, AND THEN I'M GOING TO LEAVE IT TO UNDER SHERIFF RANDALL. AND CAPTAIN GONSALVES AND JEN ROSSI TO CLARIFY BECAUSE THEY WERE BEEN INTIMATELY INVOLVED IN THE FINAL SELECTION HERE.
SO THE PROBLEM, AS YOU ALL KNOW, WITH THE JAIL IS WE'VE HAD MORE THAN OUR SHARE OF IN CUSTODY DEATHS AND LITIGATIONS FOR MEDICAL RELATED INCIDENTS WITHIN THAT JAIL. AS THE CONTRACT WITH WELLPATH WAS NEARING AN END AND COMING UP.
MY ROLE IN THIS PROCESS WAS TO TRY TO GET MORE MEDICAL PROVIDERS TO THE TABLE. THE LAST TIME WE RAN A RFP, WHICH WAS SEVERAL YEARS AGO, FOR MEDICAL SERVICES IN THE JAIL, WELLPATH WAS THE ONLY ENTITY THAT PUT IN FOR IT. THIS TIME, I FELT IT WAS MY JOB TO GET MORE MEDICAL PROVIDERS INTERESTED TO COME TO THE TABLE AND PROVIDE AN RFP PROPOSAL FOR US TO CONSIDER. SO, OVER THE COURSE OF TIME, WHICH HAS BEEN ALMOST TWO YEARS NOW, I HAVE WORKED ON GETTING VARIOUS COMPANIES LIKE SIDDELL AND CHP AND MEDECO. AND THESE OTHER PEOPLE TO ACTUALLY PUT IN AND GIVE US A VIEW OF WHAT THEY CAN PROVIDE IN THIS PROCESS. ONCE THAT RFP WAS CLOSED, AND WE HAD, I THINK, A TOTAL OF SEVEN PROVIDERS PUT IN FOR IT, I HAVE STEPPED AWAY FROM THE PROCESS BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANT TO BE IMPROPRIETY OF DEVELOPING THOSE RELATIONSHIPS AND GETTING PEOPLE TO THE TABLE AND THEN BEING PART OF THE SELECTION. SO I'VE BEEN PART OF THE SELECTION.
BUT I CAN TELL YOU THIS. IN 2019, WE HAD CFMG PROVIDE AN ASSESSMENT OF THE JAIL AND GIVE US A LOOK AT STAFFING BOTH FOR CORRECTIONAL DEPUTIES AND FOR MEDICAL. AND THE RESULTS OF THAT STUDY WERE WE ARE GROSSLY UNDERSTAFFED, NOT JUST AS CORRECTIONAL DEPUTIES, BUT FOR MEDICAL AS WELL. AND SO THIS CONTRACT THAT YOU'LL SEE AND HEAR BEFORE YOU, YES, IT IS SUBSTANTIAL IN THE AMOUNT OF COST PER YEAR, BUT IT ALSO DOUBLES THE STAFFING FOR MEDICAL. NOW, THAT DOESN'T DO ANYTHING FOR THE CORRECTIONAL DEPUTY SIDE OF IT, BUT IT DEFINITELY DOES FOR THE MEDICAL. THE COMPANY THAT IS PROPOSED TODAY, MEDECO, I HAVE MET WITH THAT DOCTOR, THE FOUNDER OF THE COMPANY, AND HIS TEAM ON NUMEROUS OCCASIONS. I AM VERY IMPRESSED WITH HOW THEY DO BUSINESS, THEIR LEADERSHIP, THEIR CARE.
THEY HAVE AN IMPECCABLE RECORD OF OVER 30 YEARS. THEY HAVE YET TO HAVE A JUDGMENT AGAINST THEM FOR THEIR MEDICAL SERVICES, PRIMARILY FOCUSED ON THE EAST COAST, BUT DEFINITELY.
EXTENSIVE EXPERIENCE IN CORRECTIONS AND MEDICAL SERVICE, WHICH IS A BIG DIFFERENCE FOR A LOT OF THE PEOPLE THAT PUT IN DIDN'T HAVE THAT CORRECTION SIDE OF IT. AND THE TEAM HERE WILL BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THE DETAILS INVOLVED WITH ALL OF THAT. AND THAT'S HOW WE GOT TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY. THE SELECTION OF MEDI-CO IS BASED ON MORE THAN JUST A DOLLAR AMOUNT. IT'S BASED ON LOOKING AT OUR LIABILITY, CHANGING THE CULTURE IN THE JAIL. CHANGING THE SERVICE TO THE INMATES AND OUR EXPOSURE. SO WITH THAT, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO WHOEVER YOU WANT TO START WITH WITH THOSE QUESTIONS.
MS. ROSSI SHOOK HER HEAD BACK THERE. SO WAS THERE SOMETHING THAT WAS SAID THAT YOU WANTED TO CORRECT? 2019, THANK YOU, GENERAL ROSSI, SENIOR ADMINISTRATIVE ANALYST FOR THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICE. I WAS PART OF THE RFP PROCESS AND ONE OF THE RATERS, BUT IT WAS A CGL 2019 REPORT THAT SHERIFF WAS JUST MENTIONING. AS FAR AS STAFFING RATIOS. OKAY, THANK YOU. ON THE WRONG.OKAY. I'M NOT SURE. SO
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ON THE STAFFING RATIO PIECE, COULD YOU DESCRIBE WHAT STAFFING RATIO WE HAVE NOW, WHAT WE'D BE GOING TO, AND WHAT YOU'RE SEEING? KIND OF ELSEWHERE IN TERMS OF THE OTHER PROPOSALS AND KIND OF HOW THAT WILL CHANGE THE LEVEL OF CARE THAT IS PROVIDED WITHIN THE JAIL? GOOD MORNING, CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.HOLD ON. COMPARE THAT. BETWEEN THE JAIL STAFF AND THE MEDICAL STAFF. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE ASKING? NOT THE JAIL STAFF. I'M JUST COMPARING CURRENT MEDICAL STAFF UNDER OUR CURRENT CONTRACT TO WHAT IT WOULD BE IN THE NEW CONTRACT. YEAH.
GOOD MORNING, CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. JESSE GONSAL IS CAPTAIN AT THE JAIL CUSTODY DIVISION. SO TALKING ABOUT THE STAFFING MATRIX, I CAN KIND OF GO OVER WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW WITH WELLPATH. WE'RE LOOKING AT, IT'S DIFFERENT WITH THE FTES, BUT NURSES ON THE FLOOR. SO WHEN WE EVALUATED THIS THROUGH THE RFP AND THE SUBMISSIONS THAT CAME FORWARD, ONE OF THE MAIN POINTS THAT WE WERE LOOKING FOR WAS ACTUALLY BOOTS ON THE GROUND, CARE FOR PATIENTS AND NURSES THAT THEY WOULD HAVE PROVIDING THAT CARE, AND OR DOCTORS AND RNS.
CURRENTLY, THERE'S APPROXIMATELY 13 TO 14 NURSES THAT ARE IN THE FACILITY. THAT NUMBER WILL ROUGHLY DOUBLE.
WHEN I GO DOWN THE FTES, THAT'S THE ATTACHMENT C, I BELIEVE, THAT'S ON THE CONTRACT. IF YOU GO DOWN THE LIST, YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE'S TWO HOUSING UNIT MEDICAL NURSES. THAT WOULD BE 24 HOURS A DAY. THERE WOULD BE TWO ON SHIFT. THERE WOULD BE A MAT COORDINATOR THAT WOULD WORK TWO. SO THAT WOULD BE DURING THE DAY OR SPLIT DURING THE DAY. AND THEN SICK CALL NURSES, WHICH WE WOULD DO FOR CLINICS, THERE WOULD BE TWO AS WELL.
CURRENTLY, RIGHT NOW, THAT NUMBER IS... MORE THAN HALF OF THAT TO WHERE WE'RE PROVIDING MEDICAL CLINICS AND OR ASSESSMENTS. SO WITH THE UPTICK IN OUR MAT PROGRAM, ONCE THEY GET IN THERE, AND THAT'S A DISCUSSION THAT WE HAD HAD YESTERDAY AT THE INCEPTION. SO CURRENTLY, THE MEDICAL PROVIDER THAT WE HAVE WILL CONTINUE ANY SUBSTANCE USE DISORDER MAT PROGRAM TREATMENTS FOR AN INMATE THAT COMES INTO THE FACILITY. THE NEW COMPANY HAS PROPOSED THAT THEY WOULD EVALUATE AND THEN PRESCRIBE MEDICATIONS TO BETTER ASSIST THOSE PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING THROUGH SUBSTANCE USE DISORDERS. GOING DOWN THE LIST, THERE WILL BE A MEDICAL DOCTOR, PHYSICIAN THAT'S AVAILABLE FOR ON-CALL AND IN THE FACILITY TWO TIMES A WEEK, ADVANCED PRACTICE CLINICIAN OR AN NP OR A PA. THAT'S GOING TO BE 32 HOURS A WEEK. THEY'RE GOING TO BE AVAILABLE AS WELL AND ALSO ON-CALL. I CAN CONTINUE TO GO.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH. I THINK THAT'S FINE AT THAT LEVEL OF DETAIL. YEAH, AND I THINK ON THE MEDICALLY ASSISTED TREATMENT, THAT GOES BACK TO, I THINK, OCTOBER OF 2024. WHEN THE SHERIFF CAME BEFORE THE PREVIOUS BOARD. AND WAS LOOKING TO USE OPIOID DOLLARS TO EXPAND THAT, BECAUSE IT WAS ONLY LIMITED TO THOSE WHO WERE ALREADY ON THAT TREATMENT. AND SO THIS WOULD EFFECTIVELY EXPAND IT IN THE WAY THAT WAS PROPOSED BACK IN OCTOBER OF 2024, CORRECT? CORRECT. OKAY. AND THEN THE, THE OTHER THING THAT I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF SPEAK TO WAS THE COMMENT THAT THE SHERIFF MADE AROUND. MEDICO HASN'T HAD A JUDGMENT AGAINST THEM. AND I DON'T NEED SPECIFICS, BUT COUNTY COUNCIL, MAYBE THIS IS A QUESTION FOR YOU. BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THERE HAVE BEEN A NUMBER OF LAWSUITS THAT THE COUNTY HAS FACED RELATED TO JAIL MEDICAL OVER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS.
THAT HAS CAUSED US TO INCUR LEGAL COSTS. YEAH, THAT'S A MATTER OF PUBLIC RECORD, SO YES, IT'S TRUE. OKAY. SO THE IDEA HERE IS THAT WE COULD, EVEN THOUGH WE'D BE SPENDING MORE IN THE MEDICAL SERVICES, WHICH WILL DELIVER BETTER CARE AND HELP SOME OF THESE FOLKS GET OFF OF SUBSTANCES. I KNOW YOU TALKED YESTERDAY ABOUT THE PROBLEM WITH FENTANYL AND THE ONGOING CHALLENGE THAT THAT PRESENTS, THAT ALSO, THIS COULD POTENTIALLY SAVE US IN TERMS OF LEGAL COSTS DOWN THE ROAD. I THINK THAT MEDECO'S TRACK RECORD THAT THEY RESPONDED IN THEIR RFP, WHICH YOU MENTIONED, THEY'VE BEEN IN BUSINESS FOR 30 YEARS AND THEY HAVE NO JUDGMENTS AGAINST THEM FOR ANY OF THEIR MEDICAL PRACTICES THAT THEY'VE HAD. I THINK THAT'S IMPRESSIVE.
THEY REFER TO IT AS IMPECCABLE.
I AGREE. I THINK THAT THEIR TRACK RECORD SPEAKS FOR ITSELF. THE OTHER THING THAT I WAS KIND OF THINKING THROUGH WAS, OKAY, IF WE'RE AT 13 STAFF AND WE'RE GOING UP TO 26, THAT'S A HUGE JUMP.
OBVIOUSLY, YOU WOULD EXPECT THAT THAT WOULD DELIVER BETTER CARE. BUT, SHOULD WE BE LOOKING FOR SOMETHING MORE IN THE MIDDLE? AND IT SOUNDED LIKE, BASED ON THE OTHER RESPONSES TO THE RFPS THAT YOU RECEIVED, THAT THERE WEREN'T REALLY A GREAT KIND OF MIDDLE ALTERNATIVE.
IN FACT, THOSE WHO DID PROPOSE LOWER STAFFING RATIOS, THEIR
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TOTAL AMOUNT THAT THEY WERE GOING TO CHARGE WAS ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, PROPORTIONALLY QUITE SIMILAR TO THIS CONTRACT. YEAH, THE MANNER IN WHICH IT WAS DIVIDED WAS OVERALL STAFFING. SO ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF VERSUS NURSING STAFF OR DOCTORS THAT WERE THERE. SO WE WERE LOOKING AT THE, LIKE I SAID, THE BOOTS ON THE GROUND, THE CLINICIANS THAT COULD BE IN PLACE, THE NURSES THAT WOULD BE IN PLACE, AS OPPOSED TO THE ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS THAT WERE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. SO THE OVERALL NUMBER IS NOT 13 VERSUS 26, BUT THAT WAS THE NURSING STAFF THAT WAS THERE. SO JUST TO CLARIFY THAT, BUT GO AHEAD, JEN. AND I WOULD LIKE TO ALSO PUT SOME WEIGHT IN IS THE EXPERIENCE IN THE RESPONSES THAT WE'VE RECEIVED.ONE APPLICANT HAD NO EXPERIENCE. THEY WERE NEW TO THE INDUSTRY, WHICH WAS GREAT. I WAS EXCITED THAT WE RECEIVED THEIR PROPOSAL. TWO OTHERS DID NOT HAVE CORRECTIONAL HEALTH CARE EXPERIENCE, WHICH IS A WHOLE OTHER BEAST THAN JUST STANDARD MEDICAL CARE. SO THE THREE RESPONSES THAT WE WEIGHED A LITTLE BIT HEAVIER WERE THE ONES THAT DO HAVE BOTH HEALTH CARE EXPERIENCE AND CORRECTIONAL HEALTH CARE EXPERIENCE. AND THEN TYING THAT TO THE PROPOSALS ON THE POSITIONS. GREAT. THANK YOU. AND I'M GOING TO SUPPORT THIS, AND I'LL MAKE A MOTION IN A SECOND TO APPROVE IT, BUT I DID HAVE CONCERNS WHEN I INITIALLY SAW IT BECAUSE OF THE JUMP IN PRICE AND WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE COULD JUSTIFY THAT SPEND. AND THAT EITHER, THAT WILL RESULT, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY WE WANT TO PROVIDE BETTER CARE TO OUR INMATES, BUT ALSO ADDING AN ADDITIONAL $3 MILLION OR SO FROM THE GENERAL FUND IS SIGNIFICANT.
SO, I DID FEEL IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE PUBLIC TO, ONE, KNOW THAT WE ARE TRYING TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS THERE THAT WILL BENEFIT THOSE WHO DO SPEND TIME IN THE JAIL, BUT ALSO THAT THERE IS A RICH JUSTIFICATION FOR IT. SO WITH THAT, I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THIS, AS IS STATED IN THE STAFF REPORT. WE'VE GOT A MOTION BY SUPERVISOR PLUMMER, SECOND BY SUPERVISOR CRYE. SUPERVISOR CRYE. I'M JUST GOING TO KEEP IT REALLY QUICK. I'LL KEEP IT QUICK. I'M GOING TO SUPPORT THIS.
BUT THE ONE THING IS, I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY SO PEOPLE UNDERSTAND. THIS AGENT, OR THIS ORGANIZATION, MEDCO, PEOPLE SUE THE JAIL IN THE COUNTY ALL THE TIME. I MEAN, THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT HAVE A LOVED ONE PASS AWAY, AND THEY HAVE ZERO CONTACT WITH THEIR RELATIVE, BUT YET THEY'RE FIRST IN LINE TO SUE EVERY CHANCE THEY GET.
SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T, THAT THE PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS THAT WHEN SOMETHING HAPPENS IN JAIL, AND I'LL BE THE FIRST TO SAY IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT WHERE WE BLEW IT, WE NEED TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE. VERY OFTENTIMES, THERE'S A LOT OF SUE-HAPPY PEOPLE IN THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SECTOR, ESPECIALLY ATTORNEYS AS WELL, AND SO I'M JUST GOING TO SUPPORT IT. SO THANK YOU GUYS FOR YOUR WORK THAT YOU DID.
SUPERVISOR HARMON. I'M SUPPORTING IT TOO, AND YOU PROBABLY SAID THIS, BUT MAYBE JUST FOR THE PUBLIC, THE COMPARISON BETWEEN THE EXTRA COSTS AND THE HISTORY COMPARISON TO THE COST OF LITIGATION AND LAWSUITS PROBABLY IS MAKING UP FOR THE FOR THE EXTRA COSTS THAT WE'RE PUTTING BOOTS ON THE GROUND, WHICH NEEDS TO HAPPEN.
THAT'S, I THINK IT'S A GOOD BUSINESS. I THINK I'M VOTING FOR IT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.
DID WE ALREADY TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT? CAN I ADD ONE LAST THING, CHAIR? SO THE ONE LAST THING I FORGOT TO ADD WITH THIS IS, I KNOW THAT YOU GUYS ARE AWARE OF THIS MORE FOR THE PUBLIC, IS THIS MEDICAL PIECE THAT WE'RE IN CONTRACT THAT WE'RE GOING FOR FOR THE JAIL, IS PART OF THE BIGGER PICTURE? THAT CONNECTS TO THE EARLY RELEASE PROGRAM AND TO THE ORL THE UNDER SHERIFF HAS PUT IN, AND THEN EVENTUALLY TO ALTERNATIVE CUSTODY PROGRAM AND THE CAMPUS THAT WE'RE SETTING UP FOR THE FUTURE. SO THIS IS, AGAIN, ALL PIECES IN PLACE FOR THE BIGGER PICTURE AND THE GREATER GOOD OF THE COUNTY. SO I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT MOST OF YOU HAVE SPOKEN UP AND SAID SUPPORTED. I HOPE THAT WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS CONTRACT. AND I HOPE THIS WILL BE A GAME CHANGER FOR THE COUNTY AS FAR AS LIABILITY AND FOR SERVICE FOR INMATES IN THE JAIL. I WAS AT THE WELLPATH MEETING SEVERAL MONTHS AGO, AND I'M EXCITED TO SEE THIS NEW. SO WE HAVE A PUBLIC COMMENT. MS. ANGEL.
YES, CHAIR. THERE'S ONE REQUEST TO SPEAK, AND THAT IS DOLORES LUCERO. I HAVE A COMMENT REGARDING THIS. FIRST, I'D LIKE TO RESPOND TO WHAT KEVIN SAID. NOT TOO MANY PEOPLE ARE OUT THERE JUST LOOKING TO SUE FOR BEING HAPPY TO DO IT.
THAT'S WRONG FOR YOU TO SAY THAT. MY CONCERN IS THAT IT'S GREAT THAT WE'RE HAVING ALL THIS DISCUSSION IN, YOU KNOW, COMPENSATION, IN MAKING SURE THAT THE CONTRACTS, AGREEMENTS ARE THERE
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TO PROTECT AND TO ENFORCE THEM.BUT MY CONCERN IS WHAT HAPPENED TO HAVING A JAIL? AND WE'RE TAKING CARE OF ALL THE MENTAL ILLNESS, ALL THESE PEOPLE WHO HAVE THIS MENTAL ILLNESS. WHAT HAPPENED TO THE JAIL? ARE WE GOING TO BE SEPARATING THE MENTAL PEOPLE FROM HAVING THIS MEDICAL CONDITION? AND YOU KNOW, HAVING A JAIL, AND ALSO THE SICK ONES OVER HERE. BUT I MEAN, IT SEEMS LIKE WHEN ONE PERSON SAYS JAIL OR WHATEVER, IT SEEMS LIKE EVERYBODY FOCUSES IT AND IT JUST GOES ONE WAY, BUT THEY FORGET. WE ALSO HAVE TO HAVE A JAIL TO SEPARATE THOSE WHO ARE, EVEN THOUGH THEY HAVE MEDICAL CONDITIONS, BUT THEY'RE VIOLENT. I MEAN, YOU ONLY COULD TREAT SO MANY PEOPLE. HOW MANY PEOPLE OUT THERE, HOW MANY ARE IN JAIL, THAT THEY'RE REALLY, REALLY THAT NEED MEDICAL? OR HOW MANY PEOPLE SHOULD BE IN JAIL, PERIOD. SO MY CONCERN IS THAT, YEAH, IT'S GREAT THAT WE'RE DOING ALL THIS, BUT HOW COME YOU GUYS HAVEN'T BROUGHT IN THIS ISSUE REGARDING JAIL, TOO, TO SEPARATE THE ONES THAT YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE CARE OF, OKAY? BUT IF THEY'RE ILLNESS AND THEY'RE SICK, YOU CAN'T PUT THEM IN THE SAME PLACE BECAUSE THEY'RE ILL, RIGHT? THEY MIGHT END UP HARMING SOMEBODY OR KILLING SOMEBODY IN THE JAIL, BECAUSE THERE ARE VIOLENT, ILL PEOPLE IN JAIL. SO WHY ARE WE NOT DOING SOMETHING BESIDES THIS? BASICALLY, WHAT I'M SAYING IS WE SHOULD HAVE A JAIL, BESIDES JUST TREATING THE ILL, OKAY, ILL PEOPLE WHO HAVE MENTAL ILLNESS. I MEAN, THEY'RE OUT THERE IN THE STREET AND EVERYTHING.
WHAT ABOUT THE CRIMINALS? CRIMINALS. SO AND WHEN PEOPLE DO DIE OR HAVE SOMETHING HAPPENS TO THEM IN JAIL, WE DON'T KNOW. WE CAN'T ASSUME WHAT HAPPENED. BUT YET WE HAVE A BORDER SUPERVISOR WHO MAKES STUPID COMMENTS AND MAKING ASSUMPTION THAT PEOPLE ARE HAPPY JUST TO SUE AND THAT PEOPLE DON'T GO VISIT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE IN JAIL. HE JUST SAYS THINGS WITHOUT EVEN FACTS. ALL RIGHT.
THANK YOU. OKAY. LET'S GO AHEAD AND TAKE THE VOTE. ALL THOSE
[R4 Approve a renewal agreement with Shasta County Office of Education (SCOE) for the Community Connect Program.]
IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? PASSES 5-0. THANK YOU, SHERIFF. THANK YOU, DEAN. ALL RIGHT, MOVING ON. R4. APPROVE A RENEWAL AGREEMENT WITH SHASTA COUNTY OFFICE OF EDUCATION FOR THE COMMUNITY CONNECT PROGRAM. SUPERVISOR CRY, YOU PULLED THIS OFF CONSENT A COUPLE MEETINGS BACK, SO WOULD YOU LIKE TO TALK ABOUT IT NOW? YEAH, I REALLY APPRECIATE THE MEETING. I WAS GONE. THIS WAS AGENDIZED, AND YOU GUYS PUSHED IT TO THIS MEETING. YEAH, I JUST HAD SOME QUESTIONS. I KNOW CHRISTY COLEMAN, I'M GOING TO ASK HER TO COME UP, BUT THIS GOES BACK PROBABLY OVER A YEAR WITH THE MEETING I HAD WITH SCOE. TALKING ABOUT THE DYNAMICS OF THE PROCESS OF THE STATE GIVING THE COUNTY MONEY AND THE COUNTY PASSING IT THROUGH TO SCOE. AND THEN WANTING TO SEE GREATER METRICS. SO INSTEAD OF ME RUNNING THROUGH A BULLETED LIST HERE OF ALL THE CHANGES THAT HAVE BEEN MADE IN THE LAST YEAR TO THIS PROCESS. I'M GOING TO LET DIRECTOR COLEMAN SPEAK TO IT. AND THEN I KNOW THAT FOR US, FOR ME, IT'S REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE'RE NOT JUST GIVING MONEY.FOR THE SAKE OF GIVING IT AND THEN NOT KNOWING WHAT OUTCOMES WE'RE GETTING FOR IT. AND I'LL CORRECT MY LAST STATEMENT BECAUSE SUPERVISOR CRYE DID NOT PULL THIS FROM CONSENT. IT WAS HE HAD CONCERNS WITH IT AND YOU PULLED IT FROM CONSENT. OKAY. YES. SO WE PULLED LAST MEETING AND ARE BRINGING IT BACK TODAY. SO THANK YOU FOR GIVING US THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME AND GIVE YOU SOME INFORMATION ON THIS CONTRACT.
SO THIS CONTRACT WAS ORIGINALLY PULLED OVER A YEAR AGO. WE HAVE SINCE WORKED WITH SCOE OVER THE PAST YEAR TO GET MORE OUTCOMES AND REPORTING INFORMATION ADDED INTO THE CONTRACT. WE HAVE ALSO REDUCED THE COMPENSATION BY HALF SINCE THE CONTRACT WAS ORIGINALLY BROUGHT TO THE BOARD BACK OVER A YEAR AGO. AND SO THE OUTCOMES AND DATA THAT WERE ADDED WILL REALLY HELP, KIND OF GIVE INFORMATION FOR SUPERVISORIAL DISTRICTS BASED ON KIND OF THE NEEDS IN THE SUPERVISORIAL DISTRICTS THAT WE'RE FINDING IN THIS PROGRAM. THIS IS A THIS IS FUNDING THROUGH OUR MHSA PROGRAM, SOON TO BE BHSA PROGRAM THAT IS A REQUIREMENT TO MEET THE POPULATION FOR THE UNDER 25. AND SO THIS CONTRACT, I KNOW IT SAYS COMMUNITY CONNECT, BUT IT'S A DIFFERENT CONTRACT THAN WHAT SCOE HAS, THAT'S COMMUNITY CONNECT. THIS IS OUR CONTRACT THROUGH BGSA FUNDING TO MEET THAT REQUIREMENT THAT WILL COME INTO EFFECT ON JULY 1ST. AND ONE OF THE BREAKDOWNS THAT I HAD ASKED FOR, AND I UNDERSTAND THE SUPERINTENDENTS HAD SOME, WELL, SOME SUPERINTENDENTS HAD SOME THOUGHTS OR PUSHBACK AS IT RELATES TO GIVING
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OUT INFORMATION AND DATA. SO YOU WERE ABLE TO, HOWEVER YOU DID THAT INTO THE ZIP CODES, I APPRECIATE THAT.FROM SOME SUPERINTENDENTS, IT WASN'T UNANIMOUS IN WHAT THEY WOULD GIVE OVER AND WHATNOT. SO CAN YOU ARTICULATE WHAT YOU PUT IN? SO EVERY SUPERVISOR HERE CAN GET THAT DATA BY ZIP CODE AND BY OUR DISTRICT. SO WE KNOW THE KIDS THAT ARE ACTUALLY LIVING IN THE DISTRICT THAT THEIR PARENTS VOTE FOR, HOW WE CAN PULL THAT AND HOW WE CAN UNDERSTAND THAT BETTER, WHERE THAT MONEY IS BEING INVESTED AND NOT JUST SPENT. YEAH, SO I'M ACTUALLY PROBABLY GOING TO LET BAILEY COME UP AND TALK MORE ABOUT THE DATA THAT'S GOING TO BE GIVEN TO US ON A QUARTERLY BASIS.
BRINGING BAILEY UP. THAT'S FINE. SO WE ADDED THE EXHIBIT C, I BELIEVE, AND SO THAT INCLUDES EACH OF THE DIFFERENT DEMOGRAPHIC PIECES BROKEN DOWN BY THE ZIP CODES THAT FALL WITHIN THOSE SUPERVISOR DISTRICTS, AND SO WITHIN THAT WE ARE ABLE TO SEE ALL OF THE SCHOOLS. AND THE SCHOOLS WILL BE UNDUPLICATED, EVEN THOUGH THERE'S CROSSOVER BETWEEN SOME OF THE ZIP CODES THAT FALL INTO MULTIPLE DISTRICTS. CAN YOU EXPLAIN THE UNDUPLICATED PART JUST SO PEOPLE THAT ARE WATCHING UNDERSTAND? I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND IT, BUT GO AHEAD. YES. SORRY, EXPLAIN. WELL, JUST WHAT UNDUPLICATED MEANS. WELL, UNDUPLICATED. I'M SORRY. SO UNDUPLICATED MEANS THAT EACH COUNT AND NUMBER REPORTED IS UNIQUE. SO STUDENTS AND SCHOOLS ARE NOT BEING COUNTED FOR IN MULTIPLE DIFFERENT AREAS, AS FAR AS MULTIPLE DISTRICTS.
WE WILL HAVE DATA THAT REPRESENTS THE DIFFERENT AREAS AND TO CHRIST'S POINT, WE WILL BE ABLE TO SEE WHERE WE ARE RECEIVING THE MOST REFERRALS, WHERE THERE'S THE BIGGEST NEED TO BE ABLE TO KIND OF REALLY FOCUS AND TARGET IN THOSE SPACES. THANK YOU.
ALL RIGHT. ANY MORE BOARD DISCUSSION? DO WE HAVE A PUBLIC COMMENT? YEAH, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT I'M GOING TO HAVE SOME MORE QUESTIONS AFTER PROBABLY PUBLIC COMMENT, BECAUSE I'M STILL TRYING TO JUST NAVIGATE. I MEAN, THIS IS A BIG CONTRACT. IT'S BEEN A LONG. A LONG TIME COMING, BUT YEAH, I'LL WAIT.
YES, CHAIR, THERE ARE FIVE SPEAKERS. WE'LL START WITH DAWN DUCKETT, FOLLOWED BY DOLORES LUCERO. DAWN DUCKETT PASSES. SO WE'LL START WITH DOLORES LUCERO, FOLLOWED BY BENJAMIN NGUYEN, KATIE, THEN DARREN HALE. I COULD HEAR YOU.
YOU KNOW, THIS CONTRACT AGREEMENT THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO ACTUALLY POSTPONE, IT WAS YOU, KEVIN. YOU ACTUALLY DID IT. BECAUSE YOU COULDN'T GET WHAT YOU WANTED FROM MR. MIKE FREEMAN BECAUSE YOU WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU MADE A CONTRACT, MAKE SURE YOU MADE A CONTRACT THAT YOU GET WITH YOUR SCHOOLING OR WHATEVER IT IS IN NINJA COALITION. YOU BLACKMAILED THE SCHOOL, WHICH IS, IT'S ACTUALLY A CRIME WHEN A PUBLIC OFFICIAL BLACKMAILS ANOTHER OFFICIAL TO SAY, HEY, I'LL GIVE YOU A CONTRACT. IF YOU'RE ABLE TO DO MY CONTRACT, BRING IN MY BUSINESS, RIGHT? AIN'T THAT WHAT YOU DO, KEVIN? SO THAT'S HOW YOU WORK. THAT'S WHY WE'RE BACK AND YOU BROUGHT THIS BACK. YOU THREATEN PEOPLE TO GET WHAT YOU WANT. AND ANOTHER THING IS THAT SHASTA COUNTY OFFICE OF EDUCATION.
YOU ACTUALLY ALREADY MADE A CONTRACT WITH LORENZO SMITH.
YOU MADE A CONTRACT. YOU CANNOT MAKE A CONTRACT WITH SCHOLEY, SHASTA COUNTY OFFICE OF EDUCATION, USING THE SAME LEGAL COUNSEL. YOU KNOW THAT? THAT'S A CONFLICT OF INTEREST. YOU APPOINTED HIM. YOU GOT A CONTRACT WITH THEM ALREADY.
YOU DON'T EVEN UNDERSTAND WHEN YOU VOTE AND WHAT TO LOOK INTO. YOU MADE A CONTRACT ALREADY. YOU CAN'T HAVE A CONTRACT WITH SKOHU, ACTUALLY. IT'S THE SAME LEGAL COUNSEL WHO REPRESENTS THEM.
YOU KNOW THAT? WERE YOU AWARE OF THAT? ANY OF YOU? THERE'S FIVE OF YOU. DO YOU GUYS DO YOUR HOMEWORK? YOU CAN'T HAVE, YOU CAN'T MAKE A CONTRACT WITH THEM. CONFLICT OF INTEREST. YOU'RE THE ONE WHO'S RUNNING. HE KEEPS ON RUNNING HIS MOUTH. SO WHAT ARE YOU GUYS GOING TO KEEP ON DOING? COSTING THE COUNTY MONEY. EVENTUALLY, YOU COULD BE SUED. THE ONLY REASON PEOPLE SUE IS BECAUSE STUPID MISTAKES THAT YOU GUYS MAKE AS A BOARD.
YOU COULD GO LOOK UP ALL THE SKY YOU WANT, KEVIN. I DON'T CARE HOW YOU ACT LIKE A LITTLE KID WHO SITS THERE AND THROWS A LITTLE TANTRUM BECAUSE YOU CAN'T GET WHAT YOU WANT.
BUT WHEN YOU MAKE MISTAKES LIKE THAT, YOU COST THE COUNTY. YOU COST THE COUNTY WHEN YOU MAKE MISTAKES LIKE THIS. BECAUSE
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YOU'RE NOT KNOWLEDGEABLE.WELL, YOU'RE NOT CAPABLE OF MAKING DECISIONS. SO YOU MAKE SURE, MR. LARIMER, THAT YOU UNDERSTAND THAT YOU ALREADY MADE A CONTRACT WITH LORENZO SMITH. AND NOW IF YOU MAKE A CONTRACT WITH SCOE, WHO ACTUALLY LORENZO SMITH REPRESENTS THE SAME SCHOOL, AND HE ALSO HAS MULTIPLE CONTRACTS IN ALL THE SCHOOLS WHEN HE'S SUPPOSED TO OVERSEE SCOE.
THAT'S THE SAME THING THAT KEVIN CRYE DOES. MAKES MULTIPLE CONTRACTS, WHICH IS CONFLICT OF INTEREST. UP NEXT IS BENJAMIN NGUYEN, FOLLOWED BY KATIE, THEN DARREN HALE. IF I CALLED YOUR NAME, PLEASE GET IN THE QUEUE. ALL RIGHT. GOOD MORNING, SUPERVISORS. SO I'M HERE TO SUPPORT THE SCOE COMMUNITY CONNECT RENEWAL AGREEMENT AGAIN. SO SUPERVISOR CRYE DID RAISE CONCERNS ABOUT THIS PROGRAM, AND I REALLY DID WANT TO TAKE THOSE CONCERNS SERIOUSLY BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT UNREASONABLE ON THEIR FACE. HE ASKED WHETHER SCOE IS THE RIGHT ENTITY TO DELIVER THIS SERVICE, WHETHER THE FUNDING IS BEING USED EFFICIENTLY, WHETHER THERE ARE BETTER ALTERNATIVES. THESE ARE EXACTLY THE KINDS OF QUESTIONS A FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE SUPERVISOR SHOULD ASK ABOUT A $385,000 PUBLIC CONTRACT. SO LET'S ANSWER THEM.
FROM AUGUST 2023 THROUGH JANUARY 2024, COMMUNITY CONNECT RECEIVED 1,126 REFERRALS FROM 73 SCHOOLS. 78% RESULTED IN FAMILIES BEING CONNECTED TO REAL SERVICES. 86% OF THOSE FAMILIES ACCEPTED HELP. SCOE HAS RELATIONSHIPS ACROSS ALL 26 SCHOOL DISTRICTS AND 97 SCHOOLS IN THIS COUNTY. NO OTHER ORGANIZATION CAN SAY THAT. SO WHEN SUPERVISOR CRYE ASKED FOR MORE DATA, THE PROGRAM PROVIDED IT. WHEN HE ASKED ABOUT THE COST, THEY CUT THE CONTRACT IN HALF FROM WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY PROPOSED. WHEN HE ASKED WHICH KIDS AND DISTRICTS WERE BEING SERVED, WE HEARD TODAY THAT THEY ADDED ZIP CODE BREAKDOWNS BY SUPERVISOR DISTRICT WITH UNDUPLICATED COUNTS. SO NOW HIS STANDARD HAS BEEN MET THREE TIMES OVER. SO WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS, I'D LIKE TO APPLY THAT SAME STANDARD TO HIM. HE'S CURRENTLY LAUNCHING THE NORTHBOUND ACADEMY, A PRIVATE SCHOOL HERE IN REDDING, WHERE HE SERVES AS THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR. THE PROJECT ENROLLMENT IS 200 STUDENTS WITHIN THREE YEARS.
HIS NAMED PRINCIPAL AND THE OFFICE MANAGER FOR HIS OWN FOR-PROFIT CAMP BUSINESS.
BUT WHAT'S NORTHBOUND ACADEMY'S METHODOLOGY? WHAT STUDENT OUTCOME DATA WILL HE USE TO EVALUATE SUCCESS? WHAT ACCOUNTABILITY STRUCTURE EXISTS FOR THE FAMILIES WHO TRUST HIM WITH THEIR CHILDREN'S EDUCATION? SUPERVISOR CHRIST AT THE BAR. THE LEAST WE CAN DO IS HOLD THEM TO IT. VOTE YES ON THIS. UP NEXT IS KATIE, FOLLOWED BY DARREN HALE.
OKAY, SO I'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR A REALLY LONG TIME.
I HAVE ALL THE GRANTS AND ALL THE INFORMATION I CAN PROVIDE TO ALL OF YOU. SO WHEN SCOE, THE REASON THAT THIS IS CONVOLUTED BETWEEN COMMUNITY CONNECT AND COMMUNITY SCHOOLS IS BECAUSE WHEN SCOE WENT UP FOR THEIR GRANT FOR COMMUNITY SCHOOLS, THEY PLACED YOU GUYS INTO THAT CONSORTIUM FOR COMMUNITY CONNECT, UNBEKNOWNST TO YOU. AND WHAT THEY DID WAS THEY USED THAT MONEY TO GET THEIR COMMUNITY SCHOOLS MONEY.
AND THEY HAVE THAT CONSORTIUM.
AND THE SCHOOLS THAT ARE NOT PART OF THAT CONSORTIUM ARE NOT ALLOWED AT THIS POINT IN TIME TO HAVE COMMUNITY CONNECTORS ON THEIR CAMPUS. NOW, WHY THIS IS RELEVANT, AND I NEED TO BREAK THIS DOWN, IS THAT COMMUNITY SCHOOLS HAS A LOT.
IT'S LIKE YOU'RE ONLY SEEING THE TIP OF THE ICEBERG WITH COMMUNITY CONNECT. IT'S A RELATIVELY GREAT PROGRAM, AND I APPRECIATE WHAT BENJAMIN LAID OUT ABOUT IT.
BUT THAT IS JUST ONE OF THE LAYERS, IT INCLUDES DATA MINING OF CHILDREN AND EVERY SINGLE STROKE OF THE PEN THAT THEY DO, AS WELL AS SURVEYS ASKING VERY INTRUSIVE QUESTIONS. IT ALSO INVOLVES A LOT WITH REIMBURSEMENTS WITH MEDI-CAL ON DOWN THE ROAD AND POTENTIALLY, WELL, REQUIRED. THAT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE THESE WELLNESS CENTERS ON SCHOOL. AND PROVIDE MEDICAL SERVICES TO CHILDREN AT SCHOOLS WITHOUT THE PARENTS INVOLVED.
THEY'RE ABLE TO GET CHILDREN ONTO EMERGENCY MEDI-CAL AND THEN BILL MEDI-CAL FOR THOSE SERVICES.
AND IT EXPANDS NOT JUST FROM MENTAL HEALTH. IT EXPANDS OUT. SO THAT'S WHAT I JUST HAVE TO GIVE, A LITTLE BIT OF AN UPBRINGING OF THAT. I'LL LEAVE DARREN TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE REPERCUSSIONS OF WHEN ANDERSON PULLED OUT.
BUT I WANT YOU TO ASK THEM SOME QUESTIONS, ASK THEM WHY OUR COUNTY HEALTH OFFICER AND A PORTION OF HIS FULL-TIME EQUIVALENT IS LISTED IN THE
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COMMUNITY SCHOOLS GRANT. WHY THIS PARTICULAR MONEY IN THIS PROGRAM IS MIXED UP INTO THE COMMUNITY SCHOOLS GRANT? AND ASK THEM, YOU KNOW IF THOSE METRICS ARE GOING TO BE TAKING OUT, FOR EXAMPLE, ANDERSON, BECAUSE THEY HAVE NOT HAD ACCESS TO THIS, THIS IS YOUR DISTRICT. SO ASK THESE QUESTIONS OF THEM AND NAIL IT DOWN. THAT COMMUNITY SCHOOLS, THAT SETS FORWARD THE MONEY, THE BILLIONS OF DOLLARS FROM COMMUNITY SCHOOLS. AND SHASTA COUNTY OFFICE OF EDUCATION IS GETTING UP. UP NEXT IS DARREN HALE AND CHAIR. THAT WILL BE OUR LAST SPEAKER. THANK YOU, MRS. ANGEL. GOOD MORNING, BOARD.THANKS FOR HAVING ME. THANK YOU, KATIE, FOR SPEAKING ON THE TOPIC. KATIE, MYSELF, AND SEVERAL OTHERS HAVE DEEP DOVE INTO COMMUNITY SCHOOLS, THE COMMUNITY CONNECT PROGRAM.
ANDERSON UNION HIGH SCHOOL WAS CONTRACTED WITH COMMUNITY CONNECT BEFORE COMMUNITY SCHOOLS EVER CAME ALONG.
AND WITHOUT THE BOARD'S KNOWLEDGE, THE SUPERINTENDENT OF THAT TIME SIGNED UP FOR COMMUNITY SCHOOLS GRANT MONIES.
WHEN THE NEW BOARD FOUND OUT WHAT WAS GOING ON AND WHAT WAS INVOLVED WITH THE COMMUNITY SCHOOLS PROGRAM, WE DECIDED, OR THEY DECIDED, TO PULL OUT OF THE COMMUNITY SCHOOLS PARTNERSHIP PROGRAM. WHEN WE DID THAT, EVEN THOUGH ANDERSON UNION HIGH SCHOOL STILL HAD A CONTRACT FOR THE COMMUNITY CONNECT PROGRAM, SCOE PULLED THE COMMUNITY CONNECT PROGRAM OUT OF RETALIATION FOR PULLING OUT OF THE COMMUNITY SCHOOL'S GRANT. SO CURRENTLY, ANDERSON UNION HIGH SCHOOL DISTRICT HAS NO ABILITY, AND I JUST TALKED TO A TRUSTEE RIGHT BEFORE COMING IN HERE, THEY HAVE NO ABILITY TO REFER TO COMMUNITY CONNECT PROGRAM.
SO, AT MINIMUM, THAT SHOULD BE REDUCED BY ONE-FIFTH, BECAUSE THAT'S IN YOUR DISTRICT, CHRIS. SHE'S RIGHT. THESE PROGRAMS ARE DATA MINING. THEY ARE ALSO SETTING UP MEDICAL SERVICES AND THEY'RE SIGNING KIDS UP. I'M NOT MAKING A CLAIM THAT SCOE IS DOING THIS, BUT I DO HAVE EVIDENCE OF OTHER DISTRICTS UP HERE IN THE NORTH STATE THAT ARE SIGNING KIDS UP INTO MEDI-CAL SERVICES WITHOUT PARENTAL KNOWLEDGE AND CONSENT, AND GETTING THEM SERVICES, AGAIN, WITHOUT PARENTAL KNOWLEDGE AND CONSENT. SO THIS IS A BEAST. THIS THING IS HUGE AND IT'S TRYING TO MAKE ITS WAY INTO OUR COMMUNITY AND I REALLY, ANYTHING HAVING TO DO WITH COMMUNITY SCHOOLS NEEDS TO JUST BE TAKEN OUT. BECAUSE WHAT? EVEN SCOE HAS SAID THEY'RE TRYING TO SET UP MEDICAL VANS, MEDICAL CLINICS, BEHAVIORAL CLINICS, WELLNESS CENTERS, ALL ON SCHOOL CAMPUS. THIS IS NOT GOOD BECAUSE THESE THINGS WILL HAPPEN WITHOUT PARENTAL KNOWLEDGE AND CONSENT. SO I'M ASKING THE BOARD, THIS IS OUR TAXPAYER MONEY, TO NOT APPROVE THE $385,000 FOR THIS. AND IT'S BAFFLING TO ME BECAUSE I'VE BEEN GOING TO SCOE BOARD MEETINGS AND LITERALLY IN THE MEETINGS. ARE SAYING THEY HAVE A MASSIVE SURPLUS OF REVENUE, AND YET THEY'RE STILL ASKING FOR MORE MONEY. SO I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT. AND YOU GUYS HAVE A DECISION TO MAKE. THANK YOU.
SUPERVISOR CRYE. YEAH, I WOULD. I'D LIKE TO HAVE.
SUPERINTENDENT FREEMAN, WOULD YOU MIND COMING UP? CAN I ASK, OR MAYBE APRIL COME VISIT YOU? SO FIRST OFF, REALLY APPRECIATE IT. I'M NOT GOING TO GIVE YOU CREDIT, MIKE, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHO GETS IT. SO WHOEVER ON YOUR TEAM IS WORKING WITH CHRISTY COLEMAN AND BAILEY COGGER AND THAT WHOLE TEAM, I APPRECIATE IT. BECAUSE THIS IS, AND AGAIN, I CAN'T BELIEVE I'M SAYING THIS, BUT THERE WAS A SPEAKER THAT WAS PROBABLY ONE OF THE BEST PUBLIC COMMENTS THAT THAT INDIVIDUAL GAVE, BECAUSE I AGREE WITH THE INDIVIDUAL.
ABOUT THIS PROCESS AND ABOUT HOW WE'RE GETTING THESE SAFEGUARDS IN THERE. 78 PERCENT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO COMPARE THAT TO. I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY, IN EDUCATIONAL SPACE, THAT'S A C PLUS. SO I DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, HOW EVERYBODY FEELS ABOUT A C PLUS. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A B, B PLUS, A, A MINUS. BUT ANYWAY, THE DATA MINING PIECE, IS THAT? IS THAT TRUE? UNTRUE? LIKE, HELP ME UNDERSTAND THAT. YES, SO...
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE TIME. BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, I APPRECIATE YOU.
I APPRECIATE THE TIME THAT YOU'RE TAKING AND THE SERVICE.
I ALSO APPRECIATE THE HARDWORKING COUNTY STAFF THAT HAVE GOTTEN US TO THIS POINT.
WE HAVE MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES ACT DOLLARS, RIGHT? THAT IS PROP 63 FUNDING THAT THE COUNTY RECEIVES. AND OVER A YEAR, FALL OF 2024, WE WERE HERE. THIS ITEM WAS A CONSENT AGENDA ITEM. AND IT WAS
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A CONTRACT RENEWAL.AT THAT TIME, IT WAS A DEFINITION OF A WIN-WIN PARTNERSHIP.
COUNTY RECEIVES FUNDS, PARTNERS WITH SHASTA COUNTY OFFICE OF EDUCATION. I DO APPRECIATE THE PUBLIC COMMENTS AND ANY CONCERNS ON THIS. THE IDEA IS THAT WE DO WORK CLOSELY WITH SCHOOLS, AND IT IS A GREAT PARTNERSHIP.
SO THE COMMUNITY CONNECT PROGRAM HAS IT DOES HAVE CONNECTIONS AND TIES TO OUR COMMUNITY SCHOOL GRANT WORK.
THIS AGENDA ITEM, IT'S FUNNY, BECAUSE PUBLIC COMMENT IS ABOUT SPECIFIC AGENDA ITEMS. THIS CONTRACT IS MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES THAT THE COUNTY RECEIVES, MENTAL HEALTH SERVICE DOLLARS THAT THE COUNTY RECEIVES, LOOKING FOR A VENDOR TO PROVIDE SERVICES. THAT'S WHAT THIS IS. SO COMMUNITY SCHOOLS AND OUR INVOLVEMENT IN COMMUNITY SCHOOLS AND IN OUR TAC, I WILL ACTUALLY SAY TO THE ANDERSON THING, WHEN THAT CONTRACT WAS TERMINATED IN DECEMBER OF 2024, WE WERE ABLE TO PIVOT AND USE COMMUNITY SCHOOL FUNDS TO KEEP THE SERVICES THAT THIS VERY CONTRACT WOULD PROVIDE AFLOAT.
WHEN THAT FUNDING SOURCE, COMMUNITY SCHOOLS, IS USED, A DISTRICT THAT OPTS TO LEAVE COMMUNITY SCHOOLS IS NO LONGER ABLE TO RECEIVE THOSE SERVICES.
THAT'S WHY SERVICES, I MEAN, THE SPEAKER IS NOT WRONG. THE ANDERSON UNION HIGH SCHOOL DISTRICT HAS NOT BEEN ABLE TO ACCESS THIS SERVICE BECAUSE OF THE SOURCE OF FUNDS THAT WE USED TO KEEP THE TO SUSTAIN THE PROGRAM, WIN OUR CONTRACT WITH THE COUNTY. SO, WITH THAT, SO. BUT BUT DO YOU GUYS HAVE A 10 MILLION DOLLAR SURPLUS? SO WE? SO, WE HAVE ACTUALLY BEEN ENGAGED IN CONVERSATIONS WITH OUR BOARD, WE, YOU KNOW, IT'S SECOND INTERIM BUDGETS, AND WE'VE BEEN HAVING THE CONVERSATIONS. LOOKING AT WHEN I, WHEN I BECAME SUPERINTENDENT, WE WERE IN THE HABIT OF POSTING $2 MILLION SURPLUSES. AND ADDING $2 MILLION TO AN ENDING FUND BALANCE THAT IS OVER $35 MILLION. WHEN I HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH PARTNERS, I DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE. WHEN SCHOOL DISTRICT BUDGETS ARE TIGHTENING, I DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE CONTINUING TO ADD TO THE SURPLUS. SO WE'VE BEEN ENGAGED IN ENDING FUND BALANCE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE BOARD TO IDENTIFY PRIORITIES. WELL, THAT WAS MY QUESTION. AND SUSTAIN THE WORK. BECAUSE I WANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT. SO IF ANDERSON HIGH SCHOOL LOST THAT AND THEN DIDN'T GET THAT SERVICE THAT THEY HAD, THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING, DID YOU GUYS HAVE THE MONEY AND THE ABILITY TO FILL THAT GAP FOR THEM? I MEAN, COULD THAT MONEY HAVE BEEN USED FOR THAT? I MEAN, IT'S NOT MY DISTRICT, BUT I AM AN ALUM, SO I DO CARE ABOUT ANDREW AND THE CUBS AND THE EAGLES TO A LESSER DEGREE.
BUT ANYWAY, I'M JUST BEING HONEST. YEAH, GO CUBS. SORRY, APRIL, IF YOU'RE AN EAGLE. THAT'S RIGHT. SO THAT IS A VALID QUESTION, AND WE CAN, RIGHT? WE HAVE THE ABILITY. THERE'S RESTRICTED IN OUR INCOME BALANCE.
BUT DID YOU? DID YOU? IT CAN AND DID. CAN AND DID ARE TWO DIFFERENT COMPONENTS. NO, WE DID USE THE COMMUNITY FUNDS TO CONTINUE THE SERVICES, AND THAT WAS THE PROGRAM DECISION.
AND SO THAT DID ALIENATE ANDERSON UNION HIGH SCHOOL DISTRICT, NOT IN RETALIATION, JUST IN THE SOURCE OF FUNDING THAT WE USED TO SUBSTITUTE FOR THE SERVICES. OKAY. SO, YOU KNOW, THIS MOVE, APPROVING THIS, WILL ALLOW US TO PROVIDE THOSE SERVICES TO ALL DISTRICTS IN CHASTITY COUNTY. ANDERSON. AND I APPRECIATE THAT, BUT THERE'S SO MANY OTHER, LIKE ANCILLARY PARTS TO THIS I'VE LEARNED IN THE PAST YEAR. SO, I MEAN, ARE KIDS BEING SIGNED UP FOR ANY SERVICE OUTSIDE OF THEIR PARENTS' NOTIFICATION, LIKE WHETHER IT'S MEDI-CAL OR HEALTHY, WHATEVER, WHATEVER THAT WOULD BE? I HAVE AN ANSWER, BUT I'LL TURN TO APRIL. OH, OKAY. GO AHEAD. SO I WILL JUST SPEAK TO THAT.
APRIL, CAN YOU SAY WHO YOU ARE SO THE PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS WHO YOU ARE? NO. MY NAME IS APRIL MATTHEWS, AND I'M A DIRECTOR WITH SCOE, AND I OVERSEE OUR COMMUNITY CONNECT PROGRAM.
THE COMMUNITY CONNECT PROGRAM SPECIFICALLY WORKS WITH THE PARENTS OF THE STUDENTS. WE DO NOT PROVIDE DIRECT SERVICES TO STUDENTS, AND NOR WOULD WE PROVIDE ANYTHING BEHIND THE PARENTS' BACK AND WITHOUT THEIR PERMISSION. SO ANY OF THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING IS DIRECTLY WITH THE PARENTS, AND IT IS NOT WITH THE STUDENTS. IF THAT HELPS, ANSWER YOUR QUESTION.
OKAY, THAT'S HELPFUL. AND THEN I THINK MY LAST QUESTION IS THE BREAKDOWN, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, AND I WANT TO SAY, MR. SUPERINTENDENT FREEMAN, THAT YOU SAID EARLIER ABOUT IN THE YEAR OF 2024, I THINK IT WAS, WHEN I STARTED DOWN THIS ROAD. BECAUSE THE COMMENT WAS MADE BY SOMEONE ON YOUR STAFF, RIGHT? WHAT'S THE BIG DEAL? THE STATE GIVES YOU THE MONEY. AND YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO JUST PASS IT THROUGH TO US BECAUSE WE'RE THE ONLY ONES DOING IT. SO WHAT'S THE BIG PROBLEM? AND THAT'S WHAT REALLY SENT ME INTO WHERE WE ARE TODAY IS BECAUSE COMMENTS LIKE THAT ARE IT'S THE ANTITHESIS OF WHY I RUN.
BECAUSE I DON'T THINK, BECAUSE WE'VE ALWAYS DONE IT THIS WAY,
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IS THE ANSWER. SO WE HAVE NO WAY OF KNOWING. YOU'RE AT 78% NOW. WE HAVE NO WAY OF KNOWING IF YOU WERE AT 48% TWO YEARS AGO. WHERE DO YOU SEE THIS GOING IN TERMS OF LEVEL OF DELIVERABLE SERVICES, THAT PERCENTAGE GOING UP, AND WHAT ARE YOU DOING AS A SUPERINTENDENT TO ENSURE THAT BECOMES A 90% SUCCESS RATE, OR EVEN 88%? GO AHEAD. SORRY.NO, BUT I WOULD LIKE MR. FREEMAN TO ANSWER IT, BECAUSE THIS IS THE BIGGEST THING. I WAS LIKE, YOU ARE ESSENTIALLY, WELL, YOU DO. YOU RUN IT WITH A BOARD, BUT IT'S A LITTLE BIT AUTONOMOUS AS PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THE THE ROLE. IT'S JUST DIFFERENT COUNTY GOVERNMENT AND WHAT YOU HAVE IS DIFFERENT. SO I, I JUST WANT TO KNOW I APPRECIATE THE QUESTION.
AS A COUNTY OFFICE, COUNTY OFFICE OF EDUCATION, ONE OF OUR CORE VALUES IS THAT WE ASPIRE TO IMPROVE AND INNOVATE. AND SO WE'RE CONSTANTLY LOOKING.
APRIL AND HER TEAM ARE CONSTANTLY LOOKING AT HOW DO WE ENGAGE FAMILIES TO BE ABLE TO HELP STUDENTS THRIVE IN SHASTA COUNTY SCHOOLS? AND SO, ARE WE OKAY WITH THAT C PLUS? ABSOLUTELY NOT. ARE WE HAVING THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE NEED TO HAVE WITH OUR COMMUNITY CONNECT TEAM TO BE ABLE TO IMPROVE THAT METRIC? ABSOLUTELY. I CAN TELL YOU I WISH, I WISH THAT WE COULD BE ABOUT READING, WRITING, ARITHMETIC, AND WE DIDN'T HAVE TO NECESSARILY RECEIVE THE REFERRALS THAT WE RECEIVE, BUT FAMILIES IN SHASTA COUNTY ARE STRUGGLING. AND TO APRIL'S POINT, THIS IS A DIRECT SERVICE TO THOSE FAMILIES. WHEN SCHOOLS ARE STRUGGLING TO MAKE THAT CONNECTION WITH FAMILIES, THEY REACH OUT TO APRIL AND HER TEAM, AND THEY JUMP IN TO DO EVERYTHING THAT THEY CAN TO GET THOSE STUDENTS BACK IN CLASS AND BE SUCCESSFUL.
SO, YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO SPEAK TO SOME OF THE SPECIFIC STRATEGIES, BUT I'M 100% WITH YOU. WE DON'T, WE DON'T REST ON OUR LAURELS, THINKING 78% IS OKAY.
BUT I WILL SAY TO THAT IF THAT'S OKAY, WHEN WE THINK ABOUT THAT NUMBER 78% JUST THIS YEAR, JULY 1 THROUGH THE END OF FEBRUARY, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT OUR DATA AND WE SAY THAT PERCENTAGE, RIGHT, WHEN WE SAY 79% THAT COULD SOUND C, C PLUS, C'S GET DEGREES, BUT C, RIGHT, NOT B.
BUT WE'VE RECEIVED OVER 1,100 REFERRALS FROM JULY 1 THROUGH THE END OF FEBRUARY.
AND OUT OF THOSE FAMILIES, NOT ALL OF THEM EVEN KNOW THAT THEY WERE BEING REFERRED TO US. SCHOOLS MIGHT NOT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO MAKE CONTACT WITH THEIR FAMILIES TO CONFIRM. THEY WEREN'T STANDING THERE, SITTING AND WAITING FOR US TO COME. WE ARE GOING TO THEM AND OFFERING OUR SERVICES. SO WHEN WE THINK ABOUT THAT, WE ARE A STRANGER TO THAT SCHOOL, TO THAT SYSTEM, TO THAT FAMILY AT TIMES. WE'VE HAD JUST THIS YEAR THROUGH FEBRUARY, OVER 800 FAMILIES. OF THOSE THAT WE'VE CALLED AND TALKED TO SAY, ABSOLUTELY, I WANT TO WORK WITH YOU. PLEASE HELP US. WE SET GOALS, WE WORK ON RESOURCES, AND HELP THAT FAMILY. I FEEL LIKE THAT'S A HUGE SUCCESS.
WHEN WE SAY 79, THAT DOESN'T FEEL LIKE A C TO ME. THAT FEELS LIKE, WOW, THAT'S PRETTY IMPRESSIVE THAT WE CAN CALL FAMILIES AND THEY'RE WILLING TO. AND I DO. LET ME FINISH.
BECAUSE, AGAIN, LIKE, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S GOOD OR BAD. MY WHOLE THING DOWN THIS IS, I MEAN, IF 65 IS GREAT, GREAT.
BUT LET'S PUT METRICS TO IT AND DELIVERABLES. AND WAYS WE CAN QUANTIFY SUCCESS, AND WHAT DOES SUCCESS LOOK LIKE. AND BECAUSE THAT WASN'T IN PLACE AND NOW IT IS, I FEEL CONFIDENT THAT IT WOULD ONLY GO UP FROM HERE. BECAUSE NOW YOU'RE ACTUALLY LOOKING AT METRICS, IT SOUNDS LIKE, WHEREAS IT HADN'T BEEN DONE TO SOME DEGREE IN THE PAST, OR AT LEAST FOR US. LIKE, I'M GOING TO FOCUS ON THE KIDS IN DISTRICT 1, WHICH IS SEQUOIA, REDDING SCHOOL DISTRICT, AND SOME OF THESE OTHERS, AND I'M GOING TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE GETTING WHAT THEY NEED, AND THAT'S WHAT IT IS. THANK YOU, CHAIR. THANK YOU, MR. FRITZ. SUPERVISOR, I COULD JUST ADD ON BEHALF. SO AS THE COUNTY SUPERINTENDENT, I HAVE 454 EMPLOYEES. IF THERE WAS AN EMPLOYEE COMMENT THAT ALLUDED TO TAKING A PARTNERSHIP FOR GRANTED, I WILL OWN THAT AND WE WILL BE BETTER, RIGHT? WE STAND ON ONE OF THE PILLARS THAT WE DO, THE WORK THAT WE DO WITH IS THE COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIPS ARE ESSENTIAL. AND SO I COMMEND THE WORK THAT HAS GONE INTO AN IMPROVED DATA REPORT THAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU. YEAH, THANK YOU. HOLD THAT THOUGHT, SUPERVISOR PLUMMER.
SUPERVISOR LONG. THANK YOU. I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS FOR YOU. I THINK THE DANGER IN ASSUMING THAT THE DATA METRICS ARE NOT PRONOUNCED, SO WE'VE GONE DOWN TO THE ZIP CODE LEVEL, WHICH WAS AN ALTERATION RIGHT FROM THE ORIGINAL PLAN. AND I THINK IF YOU GO TOO MUCH FARTHER THAN THE ZIP CODE MODEL, YOU START GETTING INTO WHERE IT'S GOING TO BE IDENTIFIABLE FOR THE RECIPIENTS OF THAT SERVICE, AND THAT'S REALLY HAZARDOUS TO FOLKS IN THE TOTAL CONNECT GETTING OR THE COMMUNITY CONNECT GETTING KIND OF SERVICE THAT THEY NEED WITHOUT BEING OUTED, SO TO SPEAK. SO CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT A LITTLE BIT? YEAH, APRIL SPOKE ABOUT THE WORK, THE IMPORTANCE OF TRUST IN THIS WORK AS WE'RE WORKING WITH FAMILIES THROUGH SOME REALLY DIFFICULT, SENSITIVE SITUATIONS. WE ALWAYS WANT TO BE MINDFUL OF CONFIDENTIALITY. WE ALWAYS WANT TO BE MINDFUL OF TRUST. IN
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THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE DID HAVE WITH SUPERINTENDENTS AS WE WERE WORKING WITH COUNTY STAFF, LIKE, WHAT CAN THIS REPORT LOOK LIKE? THAT WAS EXACTLY THE CONCERN.IN SHASTA COUNTY, WITH OUR SMALLER RURAL DISTRICTS, IF YOU GOT AT A DISTRICT LEVEL OF DATA, YOU COULD POSSIBLY SEE IDENTIFIABLE DATA POINTS. AND THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE WANTED TO AVOID. SO THE MODEL THAT YOU HAVE NOW, BY ZIP CODE, BY TRUSTEE, BY SUPERVISOR AREA, AND IN SCHOOL CLUSTERS. ASSURES US THAT THAT WON'T BE THE CASE.
THANK YOU FOR THAT, BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT DISTINCTION. ABSOLUTELY.
TO PROTECT CONFIDENTIALITY, AND YOU GET TOO DEEP OF A DIVE, AND ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU'RE STARTING TO REVEAL WHO THE RECIPIENTS ARE, AND I THINK THAT'S DANGEROUS.
AND THEY STOP RETURNING CALLS.
CORRECT, CORRECT. THE NEXT THING WOULD BE, CAN YOU SPEAK TO THE IDEA OF, AND I THINK THIS WAS THE ANDERSON EXAMPLE, WITH COMMUNITY SCHOOLS AND COMMUNITY CONNECT, IS, ARE YOU? ARE YOU MANDATED TO BE IN COMMUNITY SCHOOLS IN ORDER TO RECEIVE THE COMMUNITY CONNECT FUNDING, OR IS THAT COMPLETELY INDEPENDENT? SO WE RECEIVED COMMUNITY SCHOOL FUNDING AND THAT FUNDS OUR COMMUNITY CONNECT WORK.
WITH THE PARTNERSHIP THAT WE HAD WITH THE COUNTY, WE WERE ABLE TO USE THAT TO FUND OTHER POSITIONS THAT COULD PROVIDE OUTSIDE OF COMMUNITY SCHOOL CONSORTIUM REFERRAL SUPPORT. AND WHEN WE LOST THAT CONTRACT, WE PIVOTED AND USED COMMUNITY SCHOOL FUNDING TO CONTINUE THE WORK. SO WITH THE ANDERSON EXAMPLE, FOR EXAMPLE, BECAUSE I'M NOT SURE I COMPLETELY UNDERSTOOD THAT AT THE TIME, BUT I KNOW THAT ALL OF A SUDDEN, THEY DIDN'T GET THEIR CONNECT MONEY BECAUSE THEY PULLED OUT OF THE SCHOOL. SO, AT ONE POINT, WE HAD CONNECTORS EMBEDDED IN CAMPUSES IN THE ANDERSON UNION HIGH SCHOOL DISTRICT, AND WHEN THE DISTRICT CHOSE TO EXIT OUT OF THE COMMUNITY SCHOOL CONSORTIUM GRANT, THOSE CONNECTORS WERE REMOVED FROM THOSE CAMPUSES, AND WE REPURPOSED THEM.
IN WORKING WITH OTHER DISTRICTS. SO THEY HAD CONNECTOR STAFF ON CAMPUS, FUNDED BY THE COMMUNITY SCHOOLS. WHEN COMMUNITY SCHOOLS WAS EXITED, THOSE CONNECTORS WERE REMOVED FROM CAMPUSES AND THEY WERE LEFT WITHOUT THE ABILITY TO MAKE REFERRALS. OKAY.
OKAY. AND THE LAST QUESTION I HAVE IS TRYING TO FIGURE THIS OUT JUST A BIT. SO THERE'S AN HHS POOL THAT RECEIVES MONEY FROM THE STATE. THERE IS A SCOE CONNECT MONEY THAT'S AVAILABLE THAT RUNS THROUGH YOUR PROGRAM. WE'RE JUST KIND OF LOOKING AT THE HHSA PORTION OF THIS TODAY, RIGHT? AND WHETHER TO APPROVE THE HHSA CONTRACT, NOT ANYTHING REALLY TO DO WITH SCOE. CONCERNS OF COMMUNITY SCHOOL FUNDING, CONCERNS ABOUT WHAT OUR RESPONSIBILITIES ARE AS A REGIONAL TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE CENTER FOR THE COMMUNITY SCHOOL MOVEMENT, LIKE THAT IS, WE'D LOVE TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION.
THAT'S NOT YOU, AS IT PERTAINS SPECIFICALLY TO THIS AGENDA ITEM. THIS AGENDA ITEM IS ABOUT THE MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES ACT FUNDING THAT THE COUNTY RECEIVES IN LOOKING FOR A VENDOR. THAT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING, AND SO I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY WHY SCOE IS BEING BROUGHT COMPLETELY INTO THIS, BECAUSE THIS IS A MENTAL HEALTH ACT HHSA ISSUE. THIS AGENDA ITEM IS? CORRECT. THERE ARE OTHER ISSUES, THERE ARE OTHER QUESTIONS, THERE ARE OTHER DISCUSSIONS THAT WE CONTINUE TO HAVE.
SURE, SURE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SUPERVISOR LONG, I BELIEVE IT'S ALL CONNECTED, MEANING LIKE TO UNDERSTAND ONE PART IS LIKE HAVING TO HAVE THE FULL BREADTH. SO WHEN SOMETHING DOES COME BACK, WE CAN REFER BACK TO THIS. AND REALLY, IT'S ABOUT THE METRICS. SUPERVISOR LONG? SUPERVISOR PLUMMER.
YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO JUMP BACK TO THE CONVERSATION ABOUT, YOU KNOW, KIND OF SUCCESS RATES. I THINK IF WE REMEMBER WHAT THIS SERVICE IS DOING, WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY SAYING TO A YOUNG PERSON AND THEIR FAMILY, HEY, IT LOOKS LIKE YOU MIGHT NEED THIS SERVICE, HERE'S A REFERRAL TO THIS SERVICE, WE WOULD NOT EXPECT THAT TO BE 100% BECAUSE THAT WOULD MEAN THAT ESSENTIALLY EVERY FAMILY IS LIKE, YEAH, I WANT THAT SERVICE. AND SO, YOU KNOW, I WAS JUST IN A MEETING YESTERDAY WITH OUR PROBATION DEPARTMENT WHERE THEY'RE DOING A PROGRAM, AND OF THOSE ELIGIBLE WHO HAVE BEEN REFERRED, ONLY 47% ENROLLED.
SO, WHICH IS FAR LOWER THAN THIS. SO THE FACT THAT WE HAVE 80, 70 TO 80 PERCENT THAT ARE JUST AS A BENCHMARK, THAT.
THAT'S ACTUALLY, I WOULD SAY, VERY HIGH AND INDICATIVE OF PEOPLE'S INTEREST IN RECEIVING THE SERVICES.
THAT AND THE TRUST WITH THE PARTNERS THAT YOU HAVE COLLECTED. SO I THINK WITH WITH THAT, YOU KNOW, WE, WE CAN. AS I THINK ABOUT THE SUCCESS OF THE COMMUNITY CONNECT PROGRAM SPECIFICALLY, WHICH IS, I THINK, THE FOCUS OF TODAY, IT'S. ARE PEOPLE ACTUALLY CONNECTING WITH YOU AND THEN ARE YOU REFERRING TO THEM AND ARE THEY PARTICIPATING IN THE SERVICES? WHICH THAT YOU CAN ONLY HAVE LIMITED CONTROL OVER. AND FROM THE DATA DASHBOARDS GOING BACK TO 22, 23 THAT EXIST AND HAVE EXISTED,
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WE CAN SEE THAT THAT HAS BEEN RELATIVELY HIGH. AND IN FACT, I WOULD SAY MUCH HIGHER THAN A LOT OF OTHER PROGRAMS THAT ARE OFFERED IN OUR COMMUNITY. SO, IN MY OPINION, AND I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ACCEPT THIS AS AGENDIZED AND MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PARTNERSHIP. I WILL SECOND THAT. MOTION MADE BY SUPERVISOR PLUMMER, SECONDED BY SUPERVISOR LONG. ARE YOU DONE, MR. PLUMMER? OKAY, BEFORE I GET TO YOU, SUPERVISOR CRYE. SO LET ME WRAP MY HEAD AROUND THIS AND GET THIS CORRECT. ANDERSON VOTED TO GET OUT OF COMMUNITY SCHOOLS, AND THEN THEY WERE PULLED, THE COMMUNITY CONNECT WAS PULLED FROM THEM WHEN THEY GOT OUT OF COMMUNITY SCHOOLS.OKAY, AND YOU'RE SAYING THAT HAD TO BE DONE? THERE WAS NO CHOICE IN LEAVING COMMUNITY CONNECT MONEY IN ANDERSON? SO, THE CHOICE TO USE COMMUNITY SCHOOLS TO SUPPLEMENT WHAT WAS LOST WHEN THIS CONTRACT ENDED WAS A CHOICE THAT WAS MADE BY SHASTA COUNTY OFFICE OF EDUCATION. TO KEVIN'S QUESTION, COULD GENERAL FUND BE ALLOCATED TO COVER ANDERSON HIGH SCHOOL? THAT COULD HAVE BEEN A BOARD BUDGET DECISION.
BUT NOW YOU'RE SAYING, IF WE SIGN THIS CONTRACT, THEY'LL GET BACK THE COMMUNITY CONNECT SERVICES, AND THEY'LL STILL BE OUT OF THE COMMUNITY SCHOOLS PROGRAM. CORRECT. WE WOULD TAKE THIS FUNDING AND THIS FUNDING WOULD REMOVE THE COMMUNITY SCHOOL FUNDING THAT WE'VE BEEN USING TO SUSTAIN IT, REPLACE IT WITH THIS FUNDING, AND BECAUSE IT'S NOT AFFILIATED WITH THE COMMUNITY SCHOOL FUNDING, ANDERSON HIGH SCHOOL DISTRICT WOULD BE ABLE TO MAKE REFERRALS. IS THERE A MATCH INCLUDED IN THIS? IF YOU GET THIS 385, IS THERE A COMMUNITY SCHOOLS MATCH OR A GRANT MATCH, OR IS THIS JUST A FLAT 385? CORRECT. OKAY. ANY MORE BOARD DISCUSSION? WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE BY SUPERVISOR PLUMMER, SECONDED BY SUPERVISOR LONG. WE'D LIKE TO DO A ROLL CALL VOTE, STARTING WITH SUPERVISOR PLUMMER. SUPERVISOR PLUMMER? YES. SUPERVISOR CRYE? YES.
SUPERVISOR LONG? YES. APRIL AND MIKE, THANK YOU, AND CHRISTY AND YOUR STAFF. APRIL, WE BOTH HAVE MICROPHONES HERE. I'M READY TO JUMP IN WHEN YOU ARE. THANK YOU BOTH. APPRECIATE IT. ALRIGHT,
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SO NOW WE'LL MOVE ON TO CLOSED SESSION. COUNCIL LARIMER, IS THERE ANYTHING YOU NEED TO CHANGE HERE BEFORE WE GO INTO CLOSED SESSION? THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. UNDER ITEM R6, IT'S LISTED AS TWO POTENTIAL CASES. SINCE THE PRINTING OF THIS AGENDA, WE'VE BEEN SERVED WITH PROCESS IN ONE OF THE CASES, SO NOW IT IS LISTED AS RIVER RANCH NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION V. CITY OF REDDING ET AL., CASE NUMBER 210023. OKAY.THANK YOU, COUNCIL LARIMER. DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? YES, CHAIR. WE HAVE ONE SPEAKER. IT IS FOR R7, AND IT IS DOLORES LUCERO.
OKAY. AND REGARDING R7, I LOOKED IT UP ON THE WEBSITE ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE COURTS, AND IT ACTUALLY INCLUDES SHASTA COUNTY, MEANING YOU GUYS ARE ALSO PART OF THE LAWSUIT.
SO YOU DON'T HAVE IT SHOWING HERE. THAT'S WHY IT SAYS, ET, ET CETERA, WHATEVER. MEANING THAT THERE'S OTHER AGENCIES, YOU KNOW, SO OTHER PARTIES. I LOOKED IT UP. THAT MEANS YOU GUYS ARE ALSO PART OF THIS LAWSUIT. THIS TRACY ACTUALLY FILED THE LAWSUIT AGAINST THE CITY OF REDDING AND THE COUNTY. SO IS THIS PERSON WHO FILED THE LAWSUIT, DO YOU THINK SHE'S HAPPY TO FILE THIS LAWSUIT, MR. KEVIN CRYE? I MEAN, YOU MAKE COMMENTS ABOUT PEOPLE ARE ALWAYS JUST HAPPY TO SUE.
I'M SURE THEY HAVE A REASON WHY THEY'RE SUING. AND I JUST FIND IT VERY DISTURBING THAT KEVIN CRYE MAKES SO MANY STUPID COMMENTS REGARDING CERTAIN YOU KNOW, THINGS THAT YOU HAVE ON THE AGENDA ITEMS HERE. AND ALSO, I'M SURPRISED THAT YOU DIDN'T ADD SHASTA COUNTY IN THERE BECAUSE I LOOKED AT IT AND SAID, WHY IS CITY OF REDDING ON HERE? WELL, I LOOKED IT UP IN THE COURTHOUSE. YOU GUYS ARE INCLUDED, BUT YOU LEFT THAT OUT. SO THAT SHOULD BE DISCLOSED FOR THE CITIZENS TO KNOW THAT YOU ALSO GETTING SUED BY THIS PERSON. SO THAT'S ALL.
WITH THAT, IT IS ESTIMATED TIME OF 45 MINUTES IN CLOSED SESSION. WE WILL NOT RETURN BEFORE A QUARTER TO NOON. SO WE WILL NOT RETURN UNTIL 11:45.
WITH THAT, WE ARE IN CLOSED SESSION. COMING BACK FROM CLOSED SESSION, COUNCIL LARIMER, DO WE HAVE ANY REPORTABLE ACTION? MR. CHAIRMAN, R6, WITH THE MATTER THAT WAS PROVIDED A CASE NUMBER EARLIER IN THE MEETING, THE BOARD VOTED 5-0 TO HIRE
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SARAH OSWITZ FROM BBK TO ADVISE AND DEFEND THIS CLAIM. R7, THE BOARD VOTED 5-0 TO DEFEND THE CLAIM AND HIRE PORTER SCOTT. NO FURTHER ACTION. RIGHT, AND WITH THAT, THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.