[CALL TO ORDER] [00:00:02] >> GOOD MORNING. TODAY IS A REGULAR MEETING OF THE SHASTA COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS. IT IS TUESDAY, OCTOBER 21ST. THE TIME IS 9:00 A.M. WE HAVE ALL BOARD MEMBERS PRESENT, ALONG WITH CEO DAVE RICKERT, COUNTY COUNSEL, JOE LARMOR, AND FROM THE CLERK OF THE BOARD, STEPHANIE BLANKENSHIP, MARCI WINSTEA, AND THE FOYER MIRANDA ANGEL. WE ENCOURAGE THOSE WISHING TO PARTICIPATE IN PUBLIC COMMENT, FLAT A SPEAKER REQUEST CARD AND SUBMITTED TO THE CLERK IN THE FOYER. SPEAKER REQUEST CARDS MUST BE SUBMITTED TO THE CLERK BEFORE PUBLIC COMMENT FOR EACH REGULAR ITEM BEGINS. WITH THAT, I'LL TURN THINGS OVER TO MISS BLANKENSHIP. >> THANK YOU. THROUGH THE CHAIR, I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND EVERYONE IN ATTENDANCE TODAY OF THE BOARD ROOM RULES OF ORDER AS OUTLINED IN ADMINISTRATIVE POLICY 1-101. THOSE CAN BE FOUND ONLINE THROUGH THE CLERK OF THE BOARD'S WEBSITE. THIS POLICY INCLUDES SIGNAGE RESTRICTIONS, ATTENDEE SEATING, AND OVERALL CONDUCT TO ENSURE BUSINESS IS DONE IN AN ORDERLY FASHION AND THAT ALL HAVE AN EQUAL OPPORTUNITY TO BOTH OBSERVE AND PARTICIPATE. UNLESS ADDRESSING THE BOARD, ALL THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE SHALL REMAIN SEATED IN THE WALL OF THE BOARD ROOM IS ACCEPTABLE SO LONG AS NO PERSON BLOCKS THE INGRESS OR EGRESS. MEMBERS OF THE MEDIA WHO WANT TO OBSERVE, RECORD, OR OTHERWISE DOCUMENT A BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEETING ARE REQUESTED TO SET UP EQUIPMENT FROM THE DESIGNATED AREA ALONG THE SOUTH WINDOWS. SHASTA COUNTY REMAINS COMMITTED TO CONDUCTING BUSINESS IN A PROFESSIONAL AND ACCESSIBLE ENVIRONMENT FOR ANYONE WISHING TO PARTICIPATE, ATTEND, OR OTHERWISE ENGAGE WITH THE SHASTA COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS. WE KINDLY ASK THAT ALL ATTENDEES ADHERE TO THESE RULES. I DO HAVE ONE ANNOUNCEMENT REGARDING TODAY'S AGENDA, AND THAT IS THE ITEM C21 REGARDING THE EOC EXPANSION PROJECT HAS BEEN PULLED FOR DISCUSSION BY SUPERVISOR LONG. ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM SHALL SUBMIT A SEPARATE SPEAKER REQUEST CARD TO THE CLERK IN THE FOYER BEFORE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM BEGINS. WITH THAT, CHAIR, I'LL TURN THINGS BACK OVER TO YOU. >> THANK YOU, MISS BLANKENSHIP. WITH THAT, I'D LIKE TO INVITE UP MINISTER GEN PHILLIPS FROM ALTIMA CHURCH OF CHRIST FOR OUR INVOCATION. I'D ASK THAT YOU PLEASE STAND AND REMAIN STANDING FOR THE PLEDGE AFTER THE INVOCATION LED BY SUPERVISOR LONG. >> WILL YOU PRAY WITH ME, PLEASE? ALMIGHTY GOD, OUR FATHER IN HEAVEN. WE COME TO YOU, FATHER, AT THIS TIME, ON BEHALF OF THE CITIZENS OF THIS BEAUTIFUL AREA. FATHER, WE'RE SO THANKFUL FOR THE GORGEOUS AREA THAT WE HAVE HERE. FATHER, WE PRAY ALSO AT THIS TIME, THAT YOU WOULD BE WITH EACH AND EVERY MEMBER OF THIS BODY. FATHER, WE ASK THAT YOU WOULD GIVE THEM THE HUMILITY OF YOUR SON, THE WISDOM TO REPRESENT EACH AND EVERY MEMBER OF THIS COMMUNITY, FATHER, IN A WAY THAT WOULD BE PLEASING TO YOU. FATHER, WE ALSO ASK SENDING THE ATTENTION, FOCUSING OUR ATTENTION FROM WORDS FROM YOUR GREAT APOSTLE PAUL FROM PHILIPPINES, CHAPTER 2, WHERE HE INVITES PEOPLE TO THINK OF OTHERS MORE HIGHLY THAN THEMSELVES, WHERE HE REMINDS US FATHER, THAT HIS SON GAVE UP HEAVEN TO COME DOWN HERE TO THIS EARTH AND HUMBLED HIMSELF. FATHER, WE ASK THAT ALL THE WORDS SAID HERE TODAY WILL BE PLEASING TO YOU AND THAT THE ATTITUDES AND COMMENTS WILL BE APPROPRIATE FOR THIS SETTING. WE ASK ALL THIS FATHER IN THE NAME OF YOUR SON, JESUS. AMEN. >> >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, MINISTER PHILLIPS. THANK YOU, SUPERVISOR LONG. MOVING ON TO R1, RECEIVE AN UPDATE FROM COUNTY EXECUTIVE OFFICER ON [R1 Receive an update from the County Executive Officer on County issues and consider action on specific legislation related to Shasta County’s legislative platform and receive Supervisors’ reports on countywide issues.] COUNTY ISSUES AND CONSIDER ACTION ON SPECIFIC LEGISLATION RELATED TO SHASTA COUNTY'S LEGISLATIVE PLATFORM, AND RECEIVE SUPERVISOR'S REPORTS. CEO RICKER. >> GOOD MORNING, CHAIRMAN CRANE, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, DAVE RICKERT, COUNTY EXECUTIVE OFFICER, REPORTING. ON 10/16/2025, THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICE ISSUED A PRESS RELEASE CONCERNING THE ONGOING FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN AND ITS IMPACT ON SHASTA COUNTY. STAFF WERE ACTIVELY ASSESSING POTENTIAL IMPACTS TO FEDERAL FUNDED PROGRAMS AND LOCAL SERVICES THAT SUPPORT RESIDENTS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY. CERTAIN PROGRAMS AND SERVICES THAT RELY ON FEDERAL FUNDING MAY EXPERIENCE TEMPORARY DISRUPTIONS ANTICIPATED AS SOON AS EARLY NOVEMBER. SHOULD THE SHUTDOWN CONTINUE? ADDITIONAL PORTIONS OF THE COUNTY'S WORKFORCE, SPECIFICALLY, EMPLOYEES WORKING IN FEDERALLY FUNDED PROGRAMS, MAY BE IMPACTED. I WANTED TO SHARE AN UPDATE THAT WE LEARNED THAT THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA WILL BE PROVIDING A BRIDGE LOAN TO THE GENERAL FUND OF THE CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT OF SOCIAL SERVICES TO FUND KEL WORKS AND KEL FRESH THROUGH THE END OF THE YEAR. [00:05:03] THIS INCLUDES THE ADMINISTRATIVE PORTION AND THE BENEFIT PORTION. THERE MIGHT BE DELAYING SOME BENEFITS BEING ISSUED TO CLIENTS DUE TO HOW THE BENEFITS ARE PAID. BENEFIT AMOUNTS GO THROUGH THE SYSTEM OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO THE STATE AND HAS TO FIND A WORKER ON TO PAY THE BENEFITS. THIS MAY MEAN SOME MANUAL WORK FOR COUNTIES AND A DELAY IN ISSUANCE, BUT AS OF NOW, BENEFITS WILL BE PAID, AND WE APPRECIATE THE STATE'S EFFORTS IN THIS MATTER. MOVING ON TO LEGISLATIVE POSITIONS AND AN UPDATE. WE THROUGHOUT THIS YEAR OF 2025, HAVE PUT FORWARD, EITHER SUPPORT OPPOSITION TO 20 LEGISLATIVE ACTIONS BY THE STATE. OF THOSE TWO, HAVE BECOME LAW. FIRST, WOULD BE AB411, WHICH WOULD ALLOW LOCAL RANCHERS AND RURAL RESIDENTS TO DISPOSE OF LIVESTOCK ON SITE. THE OTHER ITEM WAS SB 346, SHORT-TERM RENTAL FACILITIES ACT, WHICH WOULD ALLOW LOCAL GOVERNMENT SOME CONTROL OVER LOCAL RENTALS. IMPACTING THEIR AREA AND PROVIDE FOR A SUBSEQUENT TAX ON THOSE ISSUES. OF THE 20 BILLS WE PUT FORWARD FOR EITHER SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION. WE SUPPORTED 11, WE OPPOSED NINE. TWO OF THOSE HAVE BECOME LAW FOR A PERCENTAGE RATE OF ABOUT 10%. WE LOOK FORWARD TO 2026 TO CONTINUE TO WORK ON BOTH THE NUMBER OF BILLS WE EITHER SUPPORT OR OPPOSE AND IMPROVE THAT PERCENTAGE, WORKING WITH OUR LEGISLATURE AND THE GOVERNOR. THIS CONCLUDES MY REPORT. >> THANK YOU, CEO RICKER. START TO MY RIGHT, SUPERVISOR PLUMER. >> GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE. GOOD TO SEE YOU. I WANT TO GIVE YOU THREE UPDATES. THE FIRST IS THAT WE'RE HAVING AN AT HOME MEETING TOMORROW, WHICH, IF YOU'RE NOT AWARE AT HOME IS A COLLABORATION OF LOCAL ELECTED OFFICIALS FROM THE COUNTY, BOTH MYSELF AND SUPERVISOR CRIS SIT ON THAT AS WELL AS THE THREE CITIES. IN PREPARATION FOR THIS, COMING OUT OF LAST AT HOME MEETING, I WAS INTERESTED IN HAVING A DISCUSSION AS A FULL COMMUNITY AROUND A COORDINATED APPROACH TO ADDRESSING HOMELESSNESS ENCAMPMENTS. THAT'S EVOLVED OVER THE YEARS, PARTICULARLY WITH SOME SUPREME COURT CASES THAT HAVE CHANGED WHAT'S ALLOWED, AS WELL AS LOCAL POLICY. I DID HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY OVER THE LAST WEEK OR TWO TO TALK WITH CHIEF BARNER FROM READING POLICE. LIEUTENANT. I BELIEVE ERIC HAINES. I BELIEVE IT'S LIEUTENANT. IF IT'S NOT. ERIC HAINES FROM ANDERSON PD AND THEN THE SHERIFF BRIEFLY. I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU ALL IF THAT'S A TOPIC OF INTEREST, TO COME TOMORROW, THAT'S GOING TO BE IN THE BOARD CHAMBERS FROM 10-12, I BELIEVE, 9-11. DON'T COME AT 10. THE ONE THING THAT I THINK WILL ALSO COME UP THERE, AND THAT I HEARD FROM CHIEF BARNER ABOUT, AND I THINK IS IMPORTANT, IS THAT THERE'S SOME DISCUSSION AROUND BASICALLY THE PRACTICE OF PUTTING HOMELESS PEOPLE IN HOTEL ROOMS. AS A COMMUNITY, WE NEED TO BE THOUGHTFUL ABOUT THAT. IF WE'RE PUTTING PEOPLE IN HOTEL ROOMS AND DON'T HAVE A PLAN OF MOVING THEM INTO OTHER HOUSING AFTERWARDS, AND THEY'RE JUST GOING TO BE RELEASED ONTO THE STREET AND GO BACK TO WHERE THEY WERE BEFORE AND JUST HAVE EXPENDED THAT BENEFIT, THEN THAT'S OBVIOUSLY NOT SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO BE DOING AS A COMMUNITY, AND SO THAT WILL BE PART OF THE CONVERSATION TOMORROW. I WOULD EXPECT, AS WELL, BECAUSE THAT CAN EITHER BE A GOOD THING OR IT CAN BE SOMETHING THAT'S FUELING A PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE IN THE COMMUNITY. I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT CONVERSATION, AND WE SHOULD HEAR FROM ALL THREE OF THOSE LAW ENFORCEMENT BRANCHES TOMORROW. THE SECOND THING THAT I DID WANT TO SHOUT OUT TO OUR VETERAN SERVICE OFFICER, AND HE HAS TROY PAYNE, AND HE HAS REALLY STEPPED INTO TAKING THE VETERAN SERVICE OFFICE TO ANOTHER LEVEL IN TERMS OF GOING BEYOND JUST HELPING VETERANS ACCESS BENEFIT. BENEFITS HE WAS AT THE COC MEETING, I GUESS, A WEEK AGO. HELPING BE THE BRIDGE AND THE HUB, WHICH WAS PART OF THE COUNTY'S PLAN, THERE, AND LET THE PROVIDERS KNOW THAT THEY COULD REACH OUT TO HIM IF THEY HAVE A VETERAN. HE ALSO HOSTED, AND WITH HIS WHOLE TEAM, THE EQUIVALENT OF A STAND-DOWN EVENT, WHICH IS A RESOURCE FAIR FOR VETERANS, THIS PAST WEEK SAW SUPERVISOR KELTROM THERE. I THINK THAT IS JUST AMAZING TESTAMENT TO GOING BEYOND WHAT'S REQUIRED AND SAYING, HOW DO WE BENEFIT THE COMMUNITY? I BELIEVE WE'LL CONTINUE TO SEE PROGRESS ON THE TWO KEY ISSUES THERE THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT OVER THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS, WHICH IS VETERAN HOMELESSNESS AND VETERAN SUICIDE. THE OTHER QUICK NOTE, I'LL MENTION ON THAT IS I'M EXCITED AND THANKFUL TO THE PUBLIC HEALTH TEAM FOR BRINGING ONLINE WHAT'S CALLED A SUICIDE FATALITY REVIEW TEAM. THAT'S BEEN SOMETHING THAT WAS IN THEIR SUICIDE PREVENTION PLANS FROM, I THINK, 2024-28. [00:10:04] THAT BASICALLY IS WHEN THERE IS A SUICIDE OR AN ALLEGED SUICIDE IN OUR COMMUNITY, THERE'S A GROUP THAT IS MEETING TOGETHER TO REVIEW THE DETAILS OF THAT. SEE, WHAT CAN WE LEARN FROM THAT THAT WILL HELP US PREVENT FUTURE INCIDENTS OF THAT TYPE, AND SO LOOKING AT THAT DATA AND UNDERSTANDING AT THE INDIVIDUAL LEVEL, I THINK, WILL BE REALLY HELPFUL. THE LAST THING I WANT TO MENTION IS THAT I SIT ON THE MENTAL HEALTH ALCOHOL, AND DRUG ADVISORY BOARD. MY GOAL IN BEING ON THERE IS TO DO AS MUCH AS THAT BOARD CAN TO BE HELPFUL TO THE COMMUNITY, AND SO WE BROUGHT SOME LETTERS OF SUPPORT, WHICH NEEDED TO BE CHANGED, WHICH IS FINE. BUT THEN, I'VE ALSO ENCOURAGED THAT BOARD TO BRING RECOMMENDATIONS TO THIS BOARD, WHICH IS WHAT ITS PURPOSE IS, AROUND HOW WE CONTINUE TO SPEND THE OPIOID SETTLEMENT DOLLARS. MY ENCOURAGEMENT THERE, AND JUST IF YOU'RE ON A COMMISSION OR BOARD IN THE COUNTY, OR YOU WANT TO BE, IS FIGURE OUT HOW YOU CAN GO BEYOND WHAT IS JUST STATUTORILY REQUIRED AND INCREASE THE IMPACT ON THE COMMUNITY AND DO MORE THERE. IN CLOSING, I DO WANT TO MAKE A MOTION THAT BUILDS OFF OF CEO RICKER'S UPDATE ON THE GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN THAT WE BRING BACK A LETTER OF SENT TO OUR TWO CALIFORNIA SENATE LEADERSHIP, AND THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION, URGING THEM TO END THE GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN. WE DO HAVE THIS TEMPORARY STOPGAP WITH STATE FUNDING THERE THAT WILL HELPFULLY HELP US. BUT IF THIS GOES ON FOR A WHILE, THERE WILL BE A LOCAL IMPACT, AND SO I'D MAKE A MOTION THAT WE BRING THAT BACK NEXT WEEK TO BEAT THE NOVEMBER 1ST DEADLINE. >> SPEAK FOR A SECOND. [NOISE] COUNSEL, DO YOU SHOULD TAKE THAT VOTE NOW? [NOISE] >> WE'LL GO AHEAD AND TALK ABOUT MOTION MADE BY SUPERVISOR PLUMER, SECONDED BY MYSELF. WE'LL BRING A LETTER BACK AT OUR NEXT MEETING, WHICH IS A NIGHT MEETING OCTOBER 28TH. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. >> AYE. >> AYE. >> SUPERVISOR HARM. >> I ALWAYS HIT THE WRONG BUTTON. GOOD MORNING. DID WE GET THAT? WE DID? NICE. THANK YOU, STEPHANIE. I JUST WANT TO TAKE A LITTLE TIME. FIRST, I'LL GIVE YOU A LITTLE BOARD REPORT, BUT I'LL MAKE IT QUICK BECAUSE I WANT TO USE MY TIME FOR SOMETHING MORE IMPORTANT. I SHOULDN'T HAVE SAID MORE IMPORTANT. BUT WE DID HAVE ON THE 7TH. TUESDAY, THE 7TH, HAD A CHAMBER MEETING IN PALISADO, FRIDAY THE 10TH, CHESS COUNTY SEARCH AND RESCUE FUNDRAISER LUNCHING AT THE POSSE GROUND. THAT WAS AWESOME. WEDNESDAY, THE 15TH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INVESTOR BREAKFAST. I'M SURE SOME THE REST OF THE SUPERVISOR HAS TALKED A LITTLE MORE ABOUT THAT. BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY, THIS MORNING, I WANTED TO SAY THAT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT SUZIE, MY PERSONAL FRIEND, AND TALK ABOUT WHAT AMAZING COMMUNITY WE HAVE. WHAT AN OUTPOURING THAT THE COMMUNITY GAVE IN REMEMBRANCE OF SUZIE AND HER LIFE, AND WHAT SHE DID AND ACCOMPLISHED. I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT SHE WAS ALWAYS DOING SOMETHING FOR SOMEBODY ELSE. SHE WAS AMAZING THAT WAY. WHAT AN INFLUENCE ON ME. I HAVE ONE REGRET AS FAR AS SUZIE GOES. SHE WAS ALWAYS TEXTING ME TO LET ME KNOW SHE WAS GOING HORSEBACK RIDING UP ON THE RANCH AND WANTED TO KNOW IF IT WAS OKAY. I'D ALWAYS TELL HER YOU CAN GO ANYTIME YOU WANT. IT'S ALWAYS OKAY. BUT I ASKED MYSELF AFTER SUZIE WAS GONE, WHY I DIDN'T SADDLE MY HORSE AND GO WITH HER ON ONE OF THEM RIDES. SHE WOULD HAVE LOVED IT, I WOULD HAVE LOVED IT. I JUST WANT TO THROW THAT OUT THERE. IF YOU GOT SOMEBODY AROUND YOU, THAT YOU'RE NOT PAYING ENOUGH ATTENTION TO. YOU'RE NOT TAKING A LITTLE TIME. I JUST WANT TO ENCOURAGE YOU TO DO THAT. I ALSO WANT TO SAY THIS, SUZIE WOULDN'T BE VERY PROUD OF ME IF I DIDN'T TELL YOU THAT THE BIGGEST AND MOST IMPORTANT PART OF OUR RELATIONSHIP WAS SHE WAS ACTUALLY MY SISTER, NOT IN THE FLESH, BUT MY SISTER IN THE SPIRIT BECAUSE SHE WAS A CHRISTIAN, AND SO AM I AND SHE WOULD HAVE WANTED YOU TO KNOW SHE WOULD WANT ME TO TELL YOU WHAT WAS MOST IMPORTANT. THAT WAS HER RELATIONSHIP WITH OUR LORD AND SAVIOR JESUS CHRIST, AND SHE WOULD WANT ME TO TELL YOU THAT IF YOU DON'T KNOW HIM, THERE'S LOTS OF GREAT CHURCHES IN THIS TOWN, AND WE'D ENCOURAGE YOU TO FIND OUT WHAT WAS SO SPECIAL ABOUT SUZIE. [00:15:01] >> THAT WOULD BE HER RELATIONSHIP WITH THE LORD. WITH THAT, I CONCLUDE MY REPORT. IT'S UP ON THE DIS, BUT ON 14TH OF NOVEMBER, THEY'RE GOING TO DO A CELEBRATION OF LIFE AT THE CIVIC AUDITORIUM. THANK YOU, STEPHANIE, FOR PUTTING THAT UP THERE. DOORS WILL OPEN AT FIVE. THE SERVICE STARTS AT SIX AT THE CIVIC AUDITORIUM. THANK YOU. >> YOU GUYS ARE ARM. SUPERVISOR KELSTROM. >> ON THE 9TH, I ATTENDED THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING RIGHT HERE IN THESE CHAMBERS. THEN LATER ON THAT NIGHT, I WENT TO THE ACID MEETING DOWN IN ANDERSON. ON THE 11TH, I ATTENDED THE VFW BREAKFAST. I DID NOT MAKE SINGLETOWN. I WAS HAVING SOME TRUCK ISSUES, DID NOT GET UP TO SINGLETOWN. SORRY ABOUT THAT. THAT'S OUR LAST BREAKFAST OF THE YEAR 2. BUT THEN I DID MAKE IT TO THE ANDERSON CINE FUND RAISER. GOT A RIDE DOWN THERE WITH A FRIEND OF MINE AND SHOUT OUT TO THE ANDERSON VFW. THEY DONATED A $25,000 CHECK TO GET A NEW POLICE DOG IN ANDERSON. THAT WAS PRETTY COOL. THEN AFTER OUR MEETING LAST TUESDAY, I TOURED SPI INDUSTRIES WITH CEO RICKERT AND MICHELLE NYSTROM, WENT DOWN TO ANDERSON. IT WAS PRETTY AMAZING, PRETTY GREAT TOUR. THEY DO SOME PRETTY AMAZING WORK. IT PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING'S AUTOMATED, AND IT'S PRETTY IMPRESSIVE. THEN, LIKE SUPERVISOR HARMAN SAID, ON THE 15TH, I DID ATTEND THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE INVESTORS MEETING. THAT WAS GREAT. THEY HAVE A LOT OF GOOD STUFF GOING ON THERE. THEN I ALSO ATTENDED THE VETERANS RESOURCE FAIR, AS SUPERVISOR PLUMMER MENTIONED. SHOUT OUT TO OUR COUNTY EMPLOYEES. THERE WAS SEVERAL COUNTY BOOTHS THERE, AND WE GOT A LOT OF INFORMATION OUT THERE, AND IT WAS GREAT TO SEE EVERYBODY DOWN THERE. THEN ON THE SATURDAY, I ATTENDED THE ANNUAL COTTONWOOD SOUP KITCHEN. WE CALL FOR THE FUNDRAISER FOR THE COMMUNITY CENTER, AND I'M PROUD TO SAY MY POTATO BACON SOUP TOOK FIRST PLACE. THEN THAT MORNING, I HAD TO SAY GOODBYE TO A PATRIOT IN THE COMMUNITY. WOODY CLENDENEN IS NOW PRETTY MUCH FULL-TIME IN TEXAS. HE'S BEEN FLYING HOME EVERY WEEKEND, WORKING TWO DAYS IN THE BARBER SHOP AND TAKING CARE OF HIS LITTLE GRANDSON, BODI, WHO I'M VERY HAPPY TO REPORT IS DOING FANTASTIC. HE'S BACK HOME NOW. BUT WOODY IS NOW A TEXAS RESIDENT. THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT. >> SUPERVISOR KELSTROM, SUPERVISOR LONG. >> THANK YOU, CHAIR. WELCOME, EVERYONE. IT'S GOOD TO SEE EVERYONE HERE. I ATTENDED A SHASTA COUNTY FIRE SAFE COUNCIL PROJECTS AND GRANTS SUBCOMMITTEE MEETING, AND I WANTED TO GIVE AN UPDATE. I SPOKE ABOUT THIS A FEW WEEKS BACK. BUT WE DISCUSSED AT LENGTH THE CWMP, THE CALIFORNIA WILDFIRE MITIGATION PROGRAM, AND THE RESULTS. IF YOU RECALL, IT WAS THE THREE COMMUNITIES UP ON THE EAST SIDE OF US. I DIDN'T KNOW AT THAT TIME, WHETHER THE NEXT GRANT PHASE, BECAUSE THE CURRENT GRANT, WHICH WAS A $23 MILLION GRANT WILL EXPIRE NEXT AUGUST, AND I DIDN'T KNOW IF THE NEW GRANT THAT THEY'RE APPLYING FOR WHICH WILL BE DOING THE SAME THING, WHETHER IT WOULD BE ALLOWED TO EXPAND IT INTO OTHER AREAS OF OUR COUNTY. THE ANSWER TO THAT IS NO. IT'S GOING TO REMAIN IN THE SAME PILOT PROGRAM COMMUNITIES, THE THREE COMMUNITIES, OAK RUN, WHITMORE, AND LAKEHEAD, I THINK. THAT WILL STAY AS IT IS. WE HAD DISCUSSION. LET'S SEE HERE. THAT'S ALL I'M GOING TO SAY ABOUT THAT. BUT WE HAD DISCUSSION ABOUT OPERATIONS GOING FORWARD AND BEST PRACTICES FOR OUR COMMITTEE. THEN I MET WITH HOPE SETH, WHO IS GOING TO BE PUTTING TOGETHER THE SURVEY FOR OUR STRATEGIC VISION PLAN THAT'S COMING FORWARD SOON. WE AS BOARD MEMBERS HAVE MET WITH HER, SHE'S MET WITH DEPARTMENT DIRECTORS AND GOTTEN INPUT FROM WHAT WE SEE AS PRIORITIES FOR THE COUNTY, AND SHE'S GOING TO PUT ALL THAT TOGETHER. WE HAD A STRATEGIC VISION PLANNING MEETING, SUPERVISOR PLUMMER, AND CEO RICKERT, AARON BERTINE, AND NOLD SHORT. WE ALL MET TO DISCUSS THE SURVEY QUESTIONS AND TWEAK THOSE. THAT SURVEY WILL BE COMING OUT NEXT MONTH IN NOVEMBER. I WOULD ENCOURAGE EVERYONE. MATT WHERE WOULD THEY GO TO COMPLETE THAT SURVEY? I DON'T REMEMBER THAT. >> I BELIEVE WE'LL ISSUE A PRESS RELEASE OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES THAT WILL HAVE A LINK TO THAT INFORMATION. >> BECAUSE I DON'T RECALL THAT DISCUSSION. THEN ON SATURDAY, I WENT TO A NEIGHBORHOOD GROUP, [00:20:01] AND IT'S THE FIRST IN THE COMMUNITY, CITY OF READING, I SHOULD SAY, THAT BECAME A FIREWISE COMMUNITY, AND THEY'RE DOWN IN THE CROWN ESTATES. THAT'S AN EXCITING TIME FOR A LOT OF REASONS. THAT'S A NATIONAL PROGRAM, AS EVERYBODY KNOWS, AND IT'S A LOT OF QUALIFICATIONS TO GET CERTIFIED AS A FIREWISE COMMUNITY. I'M WORKING ON IN CENTERVILLE TRYING TO GET THOSE CONVERSATIONS STARTED FOR OUR GROUP. BUT THE CROWN ESTATES, FIRST IN THE CITY OF READING, THEY JUST BECAME A CERTIFIED FIREWISE COMMUNITY. I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND EVERYONE I MENTIONED IT LAST TIME. THERE IS A MEETING PUT ON BY CALTRANS TO DISCUSS THE WHISKEY CREEK BRIDGE REPLACEMENT, AND THAT WILL BE THIS THURSDAY. FROM 5:00 TO 7:00 P.M. IT'S AT 1031 BUTTE STREET. CALTRANS IS GOING TO PUT ON A PROGRAM, EDUCATE THE PUBLIC ON WHAT THIS IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE WITH THE BRIDGE EXPANSION TO INCLUDE NEW SHOULDERS AND A BIKE LANE AND ALL THOSE ADDED AMENITIES WORKING OFF THE ORIGINAL PIERS AND ABUTMENTS THAT ARE EXISTING FOR THE CURRENT. THERE'S GOING TO BE TRAFFIC IMPACTS. IT WILL START SUMMER OF 26TH, AND THE PROJECT WILL TAKE ABOUT TWO YEARS TO COMPLETE. IT'D BE GREAT IF EVERYBODY THAT'S INTERESTED IN THAT OR IS AFFECTED BY THAT PROJECT. MAYBE YOU CAN MAKE IT TO THIS MEETING ON THURSDAY. THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, SUPERVISOR LONG. REALLY QUICK TO START THIS CEO RICKERT. DID YOU SEE THE MESSAGE FROM THE GENTLEMAN FROM THE USDA, TW SHANNON. ABOUT 10 O'CLOCK. >> I HAVE NOTHING ELSE TO PROVE. >> YOU'RE GOING TO NEED TO EXCUSE YOURSELF AND MAKE SURE YOU TAKE THAT PHONE CALL. THAT'S PART OF MY REPORT IS CEO RICKERT AND MYSELF HAVE STILL BEEN WORKING WITH THE USDA AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL WITH TW SHANNON, WHO'S CONFIRMED THAT 10 O'CLOCK AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S 10 O'CLOCK EASTERN TIME OR PACIFIC, BUT EITHER WAY, CONGRESS HAS APPROVED $50 BILLION IN RURAL HEALTHCARE TRANSFORMATION MONEY, AND THAT FUNDING IS GOING TO BE ALLOCATED ROUGHLY AT $10 BILLION AVAILABLE EACH YEAR BEGINNING IN 2026. CALIFORNIA IS GOING TO GET 5 BILLION OF THAT. THE MEDICAL SCHOOL, AND THAT CONVERSATION CONTINUES TO MOVE FORWARD. THE NEXT GROUP'S MEETING IS OCTOBER 29TH. THEY'RE IN DISCUSSIONS RIGHT NOW IF THAT LOOKS LIKE A FULL MD OR A DO SCHOOL. AGAIN, HEALTHCARE IS NOT IMPROVING, BUT I CAN SAY SHASTA COUNTY IS DEFINITELY A LEADER IN THE STATE OF THINKING OUTSIDE THE BOX AND HOW WE CAN IMPROVE IT. THAT'S NOT GOING TO STOP, AND I'M VERY THANKFUL TO ALL THE MEMBERS OF THAT COMMITTEE THAT ARE STILL PUSHING IT FORWARD. THERE WILL BE DEFINITELY MORE TO FOLLOW UP NEXT WEEK BECAUSE CEO RICKERT IS GOING TO HAVE A CALL WITH I BELIEVE HE'S THE HEAD GUY, CORRECT? >> HE'S DIRECTLY UNDERNEATH THE DIRECTOR. >> YES. HE'S DIRECTLY UNDERNEATH THE DIRECTOR. WE'RE TALKING TO THE RIGHT PEOPLE, AND IT'S GOOD. HAD A BUDGET MEETING WITH VARIOUS PUBLIC SAFETY OFFICIALS AND DEPARTMENT HEADS FOLLOWED UP THAT CONVERSATION WITH DOUG BOND, WHO IS THE AMITY FOUNDATION, STILL CONTINUING TO WORK CLOSELY WITH HIM, MAKING SURE THAT JUST BECAUSE WE HAVE THE CITY OF READING PIECE OF PROPERTY, DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE'RE STILL NOT PUSHING, BECAUSE WHAT THE GOVERNMENT WANTS TO SOMETIMES TAKE TWO OR THREE YEARS, I THINK WE CAN SHRINK THAT DOWN, PUTTING THE RIGHT EFFORT AND MOMENTUM BEHIND IT. I HAD A MEETING WITH SUPERVISOR PLUMMER AND THE CHEMICAL PEOPLE. GOOD PEOPLE, THEY'RE GOING TO BE HERE TODAY PRESENTING AT RED RIBBON WEEK, SO I APPRECIATE THEM. I HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS AROUND THE B CHIP DOLLARS THAT ARE COMING OUT THERE. SUPERVISOR HARMAN GIVES ME ONE OF THOSE COUGH DROPS, AND IT'S MADE MY THROAT ALL WEIRD. THANKS A LOT. SORRY ABOUT THAT. I HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS THAT I'M CONTINUED TO HAVE ANSWERED. DON'T GIVE ME ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE COUGH DROPS. I DON'T WANT ONE OF THOSE THINGS. GET OUT OF HERE. GET THAT STUFF OUT OF HERE. I THINK WE ALL AGREE THAT THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT NEED TO BE HELPED. ALTHOUGH A LOT OF TIMES JUST THROWING MONEY AT A PROBLEM DOESN'T SOLVE IT. TO MY UNDERSTANDING, WE HAVE ROUGHLY 400 PEOPLE THAT ARE SENT OUT OF THE COMMUNITY TO FACILITIES THAT READING DOESN'T HAVE. THESE ARE OFTENTIMES VERY, VERY VIOLENT OFFENDERS IN WHAT ARE VERY MINIMUM SECURITY TYPE LOCATIONS. I'M NOT EXCITED ABOUT SAYING, LET'S HAVE ALL 400 PEOPLE IN SHASTA COUNTY. IF THERE'S ORGANIZATIONS AND INFRASTRUCTURE THAT ARE [00:25:01] REALLY GEARED TOWARDS THAT THAT HAVE DONE THAT FOR YEARS, I CAN GET BEHIND THAT. I THINK IT IS TOUGH IF PEOPLE HAVE TO GO OUT OF COUNTY, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, MY GREATEST CONCERN IS THE PEOPLE THAT ARE LIVING HERE. HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING, AND THEIR LIFE GREATLY IMPACTED BY POSSIBLY A HOME IN THEIR HOUSING TRACK. I HAVE A HEART FOR PEOPLE THAT NEED RESOURCES AND HELP, BUT I ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT MONEY IS ALLOCATED TO PEOPLE THAT ARE GIVEN TO THAT VERTICAL AND DO IT VERY, VERY WELL. WHAT I FOUND IN GOVERNMENT IS THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT SAY, HEY, THERE'S A POT OF MONEY THERE. I'M GOING TO SPIN SOMETHING UP, AND I'M GOING TO GO AFTER IT. I CONTINUE TO HAVE SOME CONVERSATIONS. I'M REALLY PRESSING AT THIS POINT BECAUSE THE GRANT APPLICATIONS ARE COMING DUE. I'M TRYING TO GET ALL THE INFORMATION I CAN TO UNDERSTAND HOW THIS IS GOING TO IMPACT ALL OF YOU, BECAUSE QUITE HONESTLY, PEOPLE WATCHING THIS ONLINE AND THE FEW PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE AREN'T GOING TO PAY ATTENTION TO THAT, BUT THEY ARE GOING TO PAY ATTENTION WHEN SOMEONE BREAKS INTO THEIR HOME WHO'S ESCAPED FROM ONE OF THESE FACILITIES BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT OPERATED PROPERLY. THE LAST THING I'LL SAY IS I'VE BEEN TALKING TO JAMES GALLAGHER, WHO'S I BELIEVE ASSEMBLY DISTRICT 3. HE'S CO SPONSOR ON THE STATE SPLIT THAT HE'S PRESENTED IN THE ASSEMBLY IS OUR ASSEMBLY WOMAN HEATHER HADWICK. WE'VE HAD QUITE A FEW CONVERSATIONS IN THE EVENT THAT PROP 50 PASSES, AND IT'S NOT MY ROLE IN THIS PLACE TO GIVE YOU MY PERSONAL OPINION ON PROP 50, I HAVE SAID THAT I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO LOOK DEEPLY INTO IT. I DO BELIEVE WITHOUT A VOICE, RURAL COMMUNITIES WILL DIE. I'VE INVITED MR. GALLAGHER UP, WHICH HE HAS ACCEPTED THAT WILL BE I BELIEVE ON NOVEMBER 6TH. HE WAS GOING TO BE PRESENTING WHAT HE'S PRESENTED AT THE ASSEMBLY. BE LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT. WITH THAT, THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT. MOVING ON TO R2. [R2 Receive a presentation from Melinda Kashuba, WES Community Board President, regarding an update on the Whiskeytown Environmental School rebuild and approve a letter of support for WES Community (Sponsored by Supervisor Long).] SUPERVISOR LONG, TAKE IT AWAY, SIR. >>THANK YOU, CHAIR. I SPONSORED A WEST CAMP PRESENTATION TODAY, AND I'M HONORED TO INTRODUCE MELINDA KASHUBA AT THE PODIUM, WHO IS THE BOARD PRESIDENT FOR THE WEST COMMUNITY. JUST BY WAY OF BACKGROUND, EVERYBODY IS FAMILIAR WITH WEST CAMP, AND IT'S SO WELL KNOWN IN OUR COMMUNITY AND SUCH AN IMPORTANT LANDMARK. WHISKEYTOWN ENVIRONMENTAL SCHOOL, WEST, FORMALLY NOTE AS THE NEED CAMP HAS BEEN IN EXISTENCE SINCE 1970. IT IS THE SECOND OLDEST ENVIRONMENTAL LEARNING CENTER IN THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE CREATED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF INTERIOR. WHISKEY, TOWN ENVIRONMENTAL SCHOOL COMMUNITY, WEST COMMUNITY, IS AN ALL VOLUNTEER 501C3 NONPROFIT, AND HAS OPERATED SINCE 2011, SUPPORTING THE MISSION OF OUTDOOR EDUCATION AT WEST CAMP. THE CAR FIRE, AS WE ALL KNOW, IN 2018, DAMAGED THE SCHOOL AND CAUSED THE LOSS OF NINE CABINS AND RELATED INFRASTRUCTURE. THE CAMP GOT WIPED OUT OUT THERE IN WHISKEYTOWN PARK. THE CRISIS ENLARGED WEST COMMUNITY'S MISSION TO REBUILD THE CAMPUS TO LAST US THE NEXT 50 YEARS GOING FORWARD. I'M VERY PROUD TO HAVE SPONSORED THIS AND BROUGHT THIS VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE FORWARD. WELCOME, MELINDA. >> THANK YOU, SUPERVISOR LONG. THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN CRAIG FOR ALLOWING US TO PRESENT. I THINK IT'S PROBABLY LONG OVERDUE THAT WE'RE HERE. THANK YOU. MY FIRST SLIDE. I'M HERE THIS MORNING TO TALK ABOUT WHY WHISKEY MATTERS TO OUR COMMUNITY AND WHAT IS BEING REBUILT SINCE THE CAR FIRE, AND THE FUND RAISING EFFORTS THAT WE'VE MOUNTED SINCE MAY OF 2022. THAT WAS A WONDERFUL INTRODUCTION. THANK YOU, SUPERVISOR LONG. IF YOU'VE EVER SEEN A CHILD'S EYES AS THEY APPROACH A STREAM OR A POND FILLED WITH FROGS, YOU UNDERSTAND WHY IT'S IMPORTANT TO GET KIDS OUTSIDE. NATURE CHANGES CHILDREN. IT BUILDS CONFIDENCE. IT SPARKS STEWARDSHIP OF PUBLIC LANDS, SND IT CREATES CITIZENS WHO CARE ABOUT THE PLACES THAT THEY CALL HOME. IT ALSO GIVES CHILDREN OPPORTUNITY TO SEE THINGS GREATER THAN THEMSELVES BE INTRODUCED TO POSSIBLE CAREER PATHS. FOR EXAMPLE, AS WAS MENTIONED THIS MORNING, SIERRA PACIFIC IN THE PAST, HAS SENT BIOLOGISTS, FORESTERS TO COME AND SHOW CHILDREN WHAT THEY DO IN FORESTS. HOW DO THEY MEASURE TREES? HOW DO THEY UNDERSTAND HOW THE FOREST ECOSYSTEM WORKS? [00:30:05] WEST SERVES AS A COMMON EXPERIENCE IN OUR COMMUNITY. THERE ARE THREE PROGRAMS THAT ARE TAUGHT AT WEST, THE BELOVED 5TH AND 6TH GRADE RESIDENTIAL PROGRAM THAT SADLY HAS BEEN CURTAILED SINCE THE CAR FIRE. BUT SINCE 2021, IN THE FALL, THE SHASTA COUNTY OFFICE OF EDUCATION HAS RECREATED A FIELD LAB PROGRAM THAT STUDENTS STARTING THIS LAST FALL, TK THROUGH EIGHTH GRADE CAN PARTICIPATE IN AS A FIELD TRIP, ALL SCIENCE BASED, AND THEN THE SUMMER CAMP PROGRAM, WHICH IS CURRENTLY BEING RUN BY PROJECT SHARE ALSO THROUGH THE SHASTA COUNTY OFFICE OF EDUCATION. >> AS SUPERVISOR LONG MENTIONED, OVER 150,000 CHILDREN HAVE ATTENDED WES SINCE 1970, 90% OF THE CHILDREN IN SHASTA COUNTY HAVE ATTENDED ONE OF THOSE THREE PROGRAMS I MENTIONED. WE HAVE A UNIQUE PARTNERSHIP THAT I THINK NEEDS TO BE CELEBRATED HERE IN THE COUNTY, AND THAT IS SINCE 1970, THE NEED CAMP WAS CREATED THROUGH THE NATIONAL ENVIRONMENTAL EDUCATION DEPARTMENT. THIS WAS THROUGH THE DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR ADMINISTERED BY THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE. NEED CAMP IS WITHIN THE WHISKEY TOWN NATIONAL RECREATION AREA, AND SO THE LAND IS MANAGED BY THE PARK SERVICE. BUT THE PROGRAM IS CREATED BY THE SHASTA COUNTY OFFICE OF EDUCATION, ACCORDING TO STATE SCIENCE EDUCATION STANDARDS. OUR ORGANIZATION, WES COMMUNITY IS A 5013C THAT WAS FOUNDED IN 2011. TO SUPPORT STUDENT PROGRAMMING, WE USED TO BUY GALOSHES AND MARKERS, AND SINCE THE CARR FIRE, WE'VE BEEN HANDED THE OPPORTUNITY TO REBUILD THE CAMP. NOW, NOT THE ENTIRE CAMP WAS BURNED. SEVEN CABINS WERE BURNED, TWO OTHERS HAD TO BE TAKEN DOWN BY EXTREME DAMAGE, AND THEN THE INFRASTRUCTURE WAS ALSO DAMAGED SEVERELY IN THE CARR FIRE. MY BOARD OF VOLUNTEERS HAS TAKEN UP THE CHARGE. IN 2021, WE DID A CAPITAL CAMPAIGN REPORT TO ASCERTAIN WHETHER THERE WOULD BE ENOUGH COMMUNITY SUPPORT TO BRING IT BACK. AT THAT TIME, IT WAS CONCLUDED THAT WE COULD RAISE PROBABLY AT MOST 3.3 MILLION. TODAY, WE'VE RAISED OVER 5.8 MILLION. I THINK THAT SPEAKS VOLUMES AS TO THE POPULARITY OF THE PROGRAM AND THE DEPTH OF UNDERSTANDING AND LOVE THIS COMMUNITY HAS FOR GETTING CHILDREN OUTDOORS. THIS IS A POTENTIAL CABIN DESIGN THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW, A DUPLEX DESIGN WITH SHOWERS AND BATHROOMS IN BETWEEN TWO CABINS, AND THERE WOULD BE FOUR OF THESE CABINS AND THEN A QUADPLEX OF CABINS. THE QUADPLEX WOULD SERVE SAY LARGER SCHOOLS IN THE COUNTY THAT LIKE TO HAVE ALL THEIR CHILDREN, ALL THEIR FIFTH AND SIXTH GRADERS THERE TOGETHER. THE BEAUTY OF THIS IS THAT ALL THE CABINS WILL BE ACCESSIBLE. THE PREVIOUS DESIGN WAS NOT ACCESSIBLE. IF THERE'S ONE THING THAT THE CARR FIRE HAS HANDED US, IT'S THE OPPORTUNITY TO REIMAGINE THE CAMPUS AND MAKE IT COMPLETELY ACCESSIBLE AND USABLE ALL YEAR ROUND WITH HEATING AND AIR CONDITIONING IN THE CABINS AND SO WE'LL BE ABLE TO BE USE BY NOT ONLY DIFFERENT GROUPS IN THE SUMMER, BUT ALSO ADULTS AS WELL FOR LEADERSHIP TRAINING, FOR EXAMPLE, AND ALL OF IT WILL COMPLY WITH INTERNATIONAL BUILDING CODES, WHICH THE PREVIOUS CABINS THAT WERE BUILT 65 YEARS AGO DID NOT ACTUALLY AS MUCH AS WE LOVED THEM. THIS IS A POTENTIAL SITE PROFILE WITH THE GREEN RECTANGLES AS STUDENT HOUSING. THE LARGE BLUE RECTANGLE THAT YOU SEE IN THE LOWER RIGHT CORNER, THAT IS THE BRAND NEW SHASTA COUNTY OFFICE OF EDUCATION ADMINISTRATION AND NURSES STATION BUILDING. IN THE CURRENT DESIGN, THAT IS IN THE BACK OF THE CAMP, AND TO PROVIDE FURTHER SECURITY, WE'VE MOVED THAT TO THE FRONT OF THE CAMP. HATCHER HALL AND THE EXISTING BUILDINGS THAT YOU SEE TO THE LEFT NEAR PAGE BOULDER CREEK, THOSE ARE EXISTING BUILDINGS THAT WILL BE REMODELED IN THE REBUILD. THIS IS SHOWING WHAT WE'VE RAISED TO DATE UP THROUGH THE END OF JUNE. WE'VE NOW EXCEEDED THAT 5.7 MILLION AMOUNT TO NOW OVER 5.8 MILLION. WE LIVE IN EXCEPTIONALLY GENEROUS COMMUNITY. [00:35:04] WE'VE APPLIED FOR GRANTS, WE HAVE WORKED WITH DONORS, WE'VE ACCEPTED PLEDGES FROM SOME OF THE LARGEST ORGANIZATIONS IN OUR COUNTY, AND WE ARE VERY GRATEFUL FOR THAT. TO CONCLUDE, WE HAVE A MAJOR FUND RAISING EVENT THIS SATURDAY AT THE SHASTA DISTRICT FAIRGROUNDS WHERE WE'RE GOING TO REINVENT, IF YOU WILL, WHISKEY TOWN ENVIRONMENTAL SCHOOL THERE ON THAT CAMPUS GROUNDS, AND WE WILL HAVE WONDERFUL BARBECUE, THANKS TO THE ASPHALT COWBOYS. WE WILL HAVE DINNER AND DANCING AND A LIVE AUCTION AND A SILENT AUCTION, AND WE ARE GOING TO RE-IMAGINE THE NIGHT HIKE IN ONE OF THE BUILDINGS. WHENEVER WE TABLE EVENT HERE IN THE COMMUNITY, THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS MOST PEOPLE AS ADULTS REMEMBER IS GOING OUTDOORS IN THE EVENING, SEEING A DARK NIGHT SKY WITHOUT FLASHLIGHTS AND WALKING A TRAIL. WITH THAT, I'D LIKE TO CONCLUDE MY PRESENTATION. AGAIN, THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO YOU TODAY TO UPDATE YOU ON WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SUPERVISOR LONG. >> THANK YOU, CHAIR AND THANK YOU, MELINDA SO MUCH FOR THAT PRESENTATION. ONE QUESTION THAT YOU HAD DISCUSSED WITH ME WAS THE MATCHING FUNDS, AND I DIDN'T HEAR YOU SPEAK TO THAT. BUT WHEN YOU REACHED THE 7.5 MILLION, CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT? >> I WILL. AS A PARTNER, WE'RE THE OFFICIAL PHILANTHROPIC PARTNER OF THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE. THAT TOOK ABOUT SIX MONTHS TO NEGOTIATE THAT AGREEMENT, THAT MEANS THAT WE CAN RAISE FUNDS ON THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT'S BEHALF AND WE ARE HOPING TO MEET THEM HALFWAY. SO THROUGH VARIOUS DIFFERENT POTS OF MONEY, THEY WILL FUND THIS TO 7.5 MILLION. THE FASTER THAT WE RAISE THE MONEY, THE FASTER WE CAN BRING KIDS BACK. >> SO YOU COULD BE POTENTIALLY LEVERAGING THIS TO DOUBLE IT UP TO $15 MILLION WORTH OF FUNDS FOR THE CAMP? >> THAT'S CORRECT. THANK YOU. YES. >> THANK YOU. >> CAN YOU HELP ME UNDERSTAND THE ORIGINAL GOAL OF THREE MILLION AND HOW IT'S 7.5 AND WHAT ELSE IS GOING TO BE IN THERE FOR THAT? >> YES, ABSOLUTELY. EVERYTHING COSTS MORE. WE STARTED THIS IN 2021 TO REBUILD THE CAMP. WE DIDN'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THAT LOOKED LIKE, WE KNEW THAT WE HAD TO REPLACE STUDENT HOUSING. BUT ALONG WITH THAT ALSO COMES INFRASTRUCTURE. WELL, FOR EXAMPLE, WE FUNDED A TOPOGRAPHIC SURVEY, THERE WAS NO TOPOGRAPHIC SURVEY THAT COULD BE USED BY ENGINEERS. WE ALSO FUNDED A SOIL SURVEY BECAUSE WHERE THOSE DUPLEXES WILL BE PLACED, WE HAD TO BE SURE THAT THE SOIL WOULD BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE THEM. WE ALSO FUNDED A POND STUDY. THAT'S ONE OF THE MAJOR NATURE CENTERS ON CAMPUS, AND ALSO THE AMPHITHEATER, AS WELL. THE AMPHITHEATER WAS WOEFULLY BROKEN UP BY TREE ROOTS THAT HAD BEEN THERE FOR OVER 60 YEARS, AND SO IT'S IN SOME WAYS LIKE PULLING A THREADS. YES, OUR MAIN GOAL IS TO DO THE STUDENT HOUSING, BUT ALL THESE OTHER THINGS ARE VERY IMPORTANT AS WELL. WE ALSO RECENTLY FUNDED AN EVALUATION OF HATCHER HALL, WHICH CONTAINS THE MAJOR CAFETERIA AND ALSO THE KITCHEN AND SOME OTHER TEACHING SPACES AND OFFICES, BECAUSE SINCE THE CARR FIRE, IT HASN'T BEEN USED AND WHENEVER A BUILDING IS LEFT UNOCCUPIED BASICALLY FOR SEVEN YEARS, THINGS CAN GO WRONG. THESE ARE IMPORTANT FEATURES THAT WE HAVE STRUCK OUT AHEAD OF AND OBTAINED GRANT MONEY FOR TO KEEP THIS PROJECT MOVING. >> IT'S GREAT. >> THANK YOU. >> WHAT'S BEEN THE SUPERINTENDENT'S RESPONSE TO IT? BECAUSE I KNOW A LOT OF THEM STARTED GOING [INAUDIBLE] AND COMING BACK, ARE A LOT OF THE DISTRICTS MOVING BACK THAT DIRECTION? >> I'M SORRY. WHAT THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE? >> NO. A LOT OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS RETURNING KIDS. >> OH, I SEE WHAT YOU MEAN? >> YEAH. >> YES. ACTUALLY, WE'RE NOW DRAWING STUDENTS FROM BUTTE COUNTY COMING TO THE DAY FIELD TRIP PROGRAM. BEFORE THE CARR FIRE, THERE WERE AT LEAST EIGHT OR NINE OTHER COUNTIES IN THE STATE THAT WOULD COME EVEN FROM HUMBOLDT COUNTY TO COME OVER IN TRINITY COUNTY BECAUSE OUR PROGRAM IS SO WELL KNOWN FOR ITS SCIENCE BASIS. JUST LET ME SPEAK TO ONE POINT THOUGH THAT ALTHOUGH YOU WERE ASKING ABOUT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. NATIONAL PARK SERVICE AND SHASTA COUNTY OFFICE OF EDUCATION AND OURSELVES, [00:40:04] WE ARE COMPLETELY UNITED IN THIS ENDEAVOR. WE COULDN'T ASK FOR A MORE COOPERATIVE TEAM, AND WE'RE LEVERAGING THAT TEAM AS BEST WE CAN TO REBUILD THIS AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. >> WHEN'S THE LAST TIME YOU GUYS PRESENTED IN FRONT OF THE SCOE BOARD? >> LAST WEEK. >> LAST WEEK. THAT'S GREAT. >> YES. >> PERFECT. YOU'RE GETTING ALL THE SUPPORT FROM SCOE THAT YOU WOULD NEED? >> ABSOLUTELY. WE WERE GIVEN AN AWARD ACTUALLY RECOGNIZED BY THEM LAST WEEK. >> BECAUSE EDUCATION HAS MORE MONEY NOW IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA THAN EVER, I KNOW YOU KNOW THAT, SO THIS SHOULD BE AN EASY FEAT TO OVERCOME WITH THE MONEY THESE SCHOOLS LOCALLY AND STATEWIDE HAVE. >> I HOPE SO. THANK YOU. YES, WE HAVE, AGAIN, 22 OF THE 24 SCHOOL DISTRICTS ATTENDED WES. >> WELL, YEAH. I ATTENDED AS A SIXTH GRADER AT ANDERSON MIDDLE SCHOOL, AND I WENT BACK AS A COUNSELOR WHEN I WAS AT SHASTA COLLEGE. >> OH WONDERFUL. THAT'S ALWAYS MUSIC TO OUR EARS. >> I'M THANKFUL THAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING THAT RIGHT. SUPERVISOR LONG. >> THANK YOU, CHAIR. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT YOU MENTIONED 151,000 KIDS IN OUR COMMUNITY HAVE GONE THROUGH THIS PROGRAM, THAT'S HUGE. WHY I WAS EXCITED TO SPONSOR THIS WAS, YOU'VE GOT THIS FUNDRAISER COMING UP ON 25TH, THAT'S THIS SATURDAY? I WILL BE THERE, JUST FYI, BUT I THINK YOU'RE GETTING AND YOU'RE GAINING MOMENTUM ON THIS FUND RAISING PROJECT. I WOULD ENCOURAGE FOLKS TO SUPPORT THEM IN THE EFFORT TO MEET THESE GOALS. THE QUESTION I HAD, IT'S GOING TO BE DOWN AT THE FAIR GROUNDS ON SATURDAY, YOU PUT UP THE SLIDE. CAN YOU DESCRIBE EXACTLY HOW THIS PROGRAM WILL LOOK LIKE ON SATURDAY? WHAT ARE YOU HOPING TO ACHIEVE? DO PEOPLE JUST BUY A TICKET OR DO THEY SHOW UP, OR HOW DOES THAT ALL WORK? >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION, I FORGOT TO MENTION THAT. YOU CAN BUY YOUR TICKETS ONLINE THROUGH WESCOMMUNITY.ORG. THERE WILL BE NO TICKETS SOLD AT THE DOOR, BECAUSE WE'RE ACTUALLY FILLING UP NOW, SO WESCOMMUNITY.ORG IS THE PLACE TO BUY THE TICKETS. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CHAIRMAN. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. >> THANK YOU. >> MOVING ON TO R3. >> IF I MAY, WE DO HAVE ONE REQUEST TO SPEAK FOR THIS ITEM, AND IT IS A VOTABLE ITEM AS THERE IS A LETTER OF SUPPORT ON THIS SAID ITEM. >> MAKE YOUR MOTION, I'M SORRY. SUPERVISOR LONG, DO YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION? >> YES. I WOULD MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE AS A BOARD ENDORSE THE LETTER OF SUPPORT. >> I'LL SECOND IT. >> PUBLIC COMMENTS, STEPH. >> WE HAVE ONE REQUEST TO SPEAK, GORDON FLYNN. SIR, IF YOU COULD COME ON UP TO THE PODIUM, WE CAN'T HEAR YOU ON THE RECORD. >> YIELDING MY TIME BACK TO THE CHAIR. >> HE'S PASSED CHAIR. >> THANK YOU GORDON. I APPRECIATE IT. PHENOMENAL JUMP SHOT. DOESN'T MOVE AS WELL AS HE PROBABLY USED TO, BUT APPRECIATE YOU. WITH THAT, WE'LL TAKE THE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. >> AYE. >> PASSES 5-0. THANK YOU AGAIN. SUPERVISOR PLUMMER, R3. [R3 Adopt a proclamation which designates October 23-31, 2025, as "Red Ribbon Week" in Shasta County (Sponsored by Supervisor Plummer).] >> YES. THE DRUG AWARENESS AND PREVENTION HAS BEEN A KEY THEME OF THIS BOARD SINCE EVEN BEFORE JANUARY. WE'VE COLLECTIVELY MADE A BIG INVESTMENT ON THIS AS A BOARD WITH A NUMBER OF ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE SERVING YOUTH AND SO THIS IS JUST ANOTHER CHANCE TO BRING THIS TO THE FRONT OF MIND. I'M GOING TO READ THIS PROCLAMATION FOR RED RIBBON WEEK, AND THEN WE'LL INVITE UP THE CHEMICAL PEOPLE, AND I HAVE BEEN INFORMED THAT THERE'S A YOUTH WHO'S WILLING TO SHARE A FEW WORDS VERY BRIEFLY TO COMMENT ON IT, WHICH WOULD BE GREAT TO HEAR FROM THEM, EXCITED TO HEAR THAT. RED RIBBON WEEK, OCTOBER 23RD-31ST, 2025. WHEREAS ALCOHOL, TOBACCO, AND OTHER DRUG USE AND ABUSE HAVE REACHED PANDEMIC STAGES IN CALIFORNIA AND THROUGHOUT THE UNITED STATES, AND WHEREAS RECENT REPORTS INDICATE THAT DRUG USE AND ABUSE BEGIN AT AN EARLIER AGE, THE CHALLENGE TO GIVE OUR YOUTH THE CHANCE TO BE FREE OF ALCOHOL, TOBACCO, AND OTHER DRUGS HAS NEVER BEEN GREATER. WHEREAS SHASTA COUNTY CHEMICAL PEOPLE, PARTNERS FOR A DRUG FREE COMMUNITY, COORDINATES THE SHASTA COUNTY RED RIBBON CELEBRATION TO OFFER OUR CITIZENS THE OPPORTUNITY TO DEMONSTRATE THEIR COMMITMENT TO HEALTHY DRUG FREE LIFESTYLES, AND WHEREAS IT IS IMPERATIVE THAT COMMUNITY MEMBERS LAUNCH UNIFIED INVISIBLE TOBACCO, ALCOHOL, AND OTHER DRUG PREVENTION EDUCATION PROGRAMS AND ACTIVITIES TO ELIMINATE THE DEMAND FOR THESE SUBSTANCES, AND WHEREAS THE RED RIBBON CELEBRATION WILL BE OBSERVED ACROSS AMERICA DURING RED RIBBON WEEK, OCTOBER 23RD-31ST, 2025. WHEREAS IT IS IMPORTANT THAT THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY, [00:45:01] HOME, SCHOOLS, CHURCHES, BUSINESSES, GOVERNMENTAL AGENCIES, UNITE TO ORGANIZE, SUPPORT, AND PROMOTE COMMUNITY AWARENESS OF TOBACCO, ALCOHOL, AND OTHER DRUG PROBLEMS AND ENCOURAGE DRUG FREE CHOICES. NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE SHASTA COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS DOES HEREBY DESIGNATE OCTOBER 23RD-31ST, 2025, AS RED RIBBON WEEK AND ENCOURAGES CITIZENS TO PARTICIPATE IN DRUG PREVENTION, EDUCATION ACTIVITIES, MAKING A VISIBLE STATEMENT THAT WE ARE FIRMLY COMMITTED TO A DRUG FREE AND ALCOHOL ABUSE FREE COMMUNITY. WITH THAT, I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT THIS PROCLAMATION. >> [LAUGHTER] CORKEY. SECONDED BY SUPERVISOR LONG, I BELIEVE. I WAS WATCHING CORKEY GO LIKE THIS. WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENTERS. MISS BLANKENSHIP, AND THEN WE HAVE I KNOW A COUPLE OF PEOPLE THAT' LIKE TO SPEAK, CORRECT? >> YES, WE DO, CHAIR. WE HAVE ONE REQUEST TO SPEAK, AND THAT'S JENNY. COME ON UP. THEN LADIES, WE'LL HAVE YOU COME UP IN JUST A FEW MINUTES. >> I JUST WANT TO THANK THE BOARD FOR HONORING THE WORK THAT CHEMICAL PEOPLE DO. IN THIS CASE, IT'S HONORING RED RIBBON WEEK. HARD TO SAY. AS A BURNING KID, I CAN TELL YOU BEFORE CHEMICAL PEOPLE STARTED WORKING IN OUR SMALL FORGOTTEN PART OF THE COUNTY. WE LOST A SENIOR A YEAR. WHILE RED RIBBON WEEK ISN'T EVERY 10 MINUTES OR SOBER GRAD, IT IS THE BEGINNING. IT'S REACHING CHILDREN WHO ARE EXPOSED TO HEAVY DRUG USE AT A VERY YOUNG AGE. IT IS WHAT EXPOSES CHILDREN TO THE IDEA THERE'S A BETTER WAY TO LIVE. THE BOTTOM RUNG OF THE STAIRCASE THAT LEADS TO SAVING OUR SENIORS TO MOVE UP AND TO MOVE ON. THANK YOU, BOARD FOR THIS PROCLAMATION. THANK YOU CHEMICAL PEOPLE FOR YOUR WORK, AND THANK YOU FOR SAVING CHILDREN AND HELPING THEM TO GROW INTO HEALTHY ADULTS. >> CHAIR, THAT WAS OUR LAST SPEAKER. >> THANK YOU. COME ON UP. >> GOOD MORNING, BOARD OF SUPERVISORS. MY NAME IS MACKENZIE BARTO, AND I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF SHASTA HIGH SCHOOL FRIDAY NIGHT LIFE CLUB AND SHASTA COUNTY CHEMICAL PEOPLE. THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ABOUT RED RIBBON WEEK. AS IT WAS ALREADY SAID THIS MORNING, NATIONAL RED RIBBON WEEK IS OCTOBER 23RD TO THE 31ST. DURING THAT WEEK, ANNUALLY, MORE THAN 100,000 US SCHOOLS, ORGANIZATIONS, AND AGENCIES CELEBRATE THE RED RIBBON WEEK CAMPAIGN. FOR THOSE OF YOU UNAWARE OF THE HISTORY BEHIND THIS WEEK, RED RIBBON WEEK BEGAN IN 1985, WHEN DRUG ENFORCEMENT AGENT ENRIQUE KIKI CAMARENA WAS KILLED BY DRUG TRAFFICKERS WHILE WORKING UNDERCOVER. WITHIN WEEKS OF HIS DEATH, HIS FAMILY, FRIENDS AND NEIGHBORS WORE RED RIBBONS PLEDGING TO LIVE DRUG FREE LIFESTYLES IN HONOR OF THE SACRIFICES MADE BY CAMARENA AND OTHERS LIKE HIM. HIS DEATH BECAME A BRIGHT SYMBOL FOR SO MANY YOUTH AND ADULTS ACROSS THE NATION TO STAND TOGETHER AND WEAR A RED RIBBON AS A TRIBUTE AND IN HONOR OF THE LIVES SACRIFICED AND SERVICE FOR OTHERS, TO WEAR RED RIBBON AS A SIGN TO STOP THE VIOLENCE OF DRUG USE, TO WEAR A RED RIBBON TO SAY THANK YOU IN MEMORY OF THE LIVES LOST, AND TO WEAR RED RIBBON AS A COMMITMENT TO THE HEALTH AND SAFETY OF OURSELVES, OUR FAMILIES, AND OUR COMMUNITY. I'D LIKE TO INVITE YOU ALL TO PLEASE JOIN US ON OCTOBER 23RD AT 7:00 P.M. TO LIGHT THE SUNDIAL BRIDGE RED FOR THE WEEK OF RED RIBBON WEEK. ON OCTOBER 25 FROM 10:00 A.M. TO 2:00 P.M. AT READING CITY HALL FOR A DRUG TAKE BACK EVENT. THANK YOU FOR ADOPTING THE RED RIBBON RESOLUTION. >> GOOD MORNING, BOARD OF SUPERVISORS. MY NAME IS ABIGAIL LEWIS, AND I AM WITH U PREP HIGH SCHOOLS FRIDAY NIGHT LIVE. I WANT TO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR TAKING THE TIME TO ADOPT RED RIBBON WEEK PROCLAMATION AND INVITE YOU TO WEAR THESE RED RIBBONS ON ON OCTOBER 23RD, THROUGH THE 31ST. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. LET'S GO AHEAD AND TAKE THAT VOTE. WE HAVE A MOTION BY SUPERVISOR PLUMMER, SECOND BY SUPERVISOR LONG. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. >> AYE. >> PASS THIS FIVE VOTE. >> LET'S GET A PICTURE. [00:50:18] >> THANK YOU, SUPERVISOR PLUMMER FOR SPONSORING THAT. MOVING ON TO PUBLIC COMMENT, MISS BLANKENSHIP. [PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD - OPEN TIME] HOW MANY SPEAKERS DO WE HAVE IN QUEUE TODAY? >> WE HAVE 16 SPEAKERS. >> TWO MINUTES A PIECE, IF YOU COULD CALL UP THE FIRST THREE OR FOUR SPEAKERS AND HAVE PEOPLE LINE UP ON THE WALL TO OUR LEFT, THEIR RIGHT. >> FIRST UP, STEVE WOODRUM, FOLLOWED BY BRENT TURNER, LARRY S, DIANA RAMIREZ, THEN CHRISTIAN GARDNER. IF I CALLED YOUR NAME, PLEASE GET IN QUEUE. >> GOOD MORNING. THIS BOARD WAS RIGHT TO REBUKE MR. CURTIS. NOW LET'S CONSIDER SOME OF THE FALLOUT OF THAT. THE REGISTRAR HAS AN OFFICIAL WEB PAGE WHERE HE CAN INFORM THE PUBLIC AS TO THE ELECTIONS BY POSTING UPDATES. PRIOR TO OCTOBER 14TH, HE HAD ONLY USED THIS PAGE TWICE. INSTEAD, WITHOUT TELLING THE GENERAL PUBLIC, HE WOULD POST UPDATES ON HIS PERSONAL FACEBOOK PAGE, SO MUCH FOR TRANSPARENCY. AFTER OCTOBER 14TH, HE TRANSFERRED MANY OF THOSE UPDATES ONTO HIS OFFICIAL WEBSITE WHERE I COULD LOOK AT THEM. IT TURNS OUT THAT SEVERAL OF THOSE UPDATES FROM THE REGISTRAR MAKE IT CLEAR THAT HE HAS NOT CONTACTED THE SECRETARY OF STATE. THIS REFUSAL JEOPARDIZES OUR ELECTION, WHICH IS JUST TWO WEEKS AWAY. NOW, THIS IS A PROBLEM THAT OUR REGISTRAR HAS CREATED, AND HE'S CONTINUED. HIS COMMENTS ABOUT IT ARE MISLEADING, IF NOT OUTRIGHT, DISHONEST. HIS ATTEMPTS TO SHUT DOWN THE PRESS IS WHY YOU VOTED 50 AGAINST HIM. OUR REGISTRAR CLAIMS TO BE [NOISE] A CHAMPION OF TRUTH AND TRANSPARENCY, BUT HIS ACTIONS SAY OTHERWISE, HE IS A DECEIVER. >> BRENT TURNER, FOLLOWED BY LARRY S, DIANA RAMIREZ, CHRISTIAN GARNIER, THEN JEFF GORDER. IF I CALLED YOUR NAME, PLEASE GET IN QUEUE. >> HELLO, CHAIR, SUPERVISORS, STAFF. GOOD TO SEE EVERYONE. MY NAME IS BRENT TURNER. I'M THE ASSISTANT REGISTRAR, AND I JUST WANTED TO COME BY WITH A COUPLE POINTS OF ORDER. ONE IS TO SAY THAT EVERYTHING IS FUNCTIONAL AND MOVING FORWARD IN THE ELECTIONS DEPARTMENT. ASIDE FROM THE NATURAL EVENTS THAT OCCUR PREVIOUS TO AN ELECTION THAT WE'VE OVERCOME. EVERYTHING IS IN ORDER. REGARDING JUST BECAUSE IT WAS MENTIONED, THE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE SECRETARY OF STATE, JUST TO LET YOU KNOW IF YOU DON'T ALREADY KNOW, THOSE CONVERSATIONS ARE ONGOING AND EXTENSIVE. ALSO, THERE HAS BEEN, I THINK, SOME CONCERN ABOUT THE PRESS THAT HAS BEEN RESOLVED. CURRENTLY, THE WEBSITE IS FUNCTIONAL. THE PERSON THAT WAS POSTING THERE UNFORTUNATELY LEFT THE EMPLOYMENT OF THE COUNTY. THERE WAS A BIT OF A DELAY, BUT I THINK EVERYTHING IS UP TO SPEED. I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY CONCERNS OR CONVERSATION. WE APPRECIATE ALL THAT THE COUNTY IS DOING. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> THANK YOU. >> LARRY S, FOLLOWED BY DIANA RAMIREZ, CHRISTIAN GARDNER, JEFF GORDER, THEN HOLLY MOORE. >> GOOD MORNING, BOARD. I JUST WANTED TO SAY A FEW THINGS ABOUT OUR ELECTIONS DEPARTMENT. I'VE BEEN IN SHASTA COUNTY MY ENTIRE LIFE, AND I'VE SEEN A LOT OF ELECTIONS. I REALLY THINK IT WAS ONLY IN 2020 THAT WE STARTED TO SEE ALL THIS UP ABOUT FRAUDULENT ELECTIONS, AND ELECTION FRAUD, LACK OF TRANSPARENCY, ALL PROBLEMS WITH OUR ELECTION DEPARTMENT. I HAPPEN TO THINK THAT CATHY ALLEN DARLING DID A FINE JOB AS OUR ROV. I THINK THAT JOANNA FRANCESCUT WILL DO A FINE JOB WHEN SHE'S ELECTED. IN THE INTERIM, WE HAVE CLINT CURTIS, [00:55:05] WHO I THINK THE BOARD IS GOING TO HAVE TO DO A LITTLE BIT OF OVERTIME WORK ON JUST TO KEEP YOU GUYS OUT OF COURT. THAT BEING SAID, I'VE LISTENED OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS TO ALL VOICES COME UP HERE AND TALK ABOUT PROBLEMS THEY'VE SEEN IN THE ELECTIONS DEPARTMENT. WE HAVE AFFIDAVITS AND WE WITNESSED THIS, AND WE HEARD THAT AND WE SAW THIS. I THINK THE ONE THING THAT I WOULD WANT TO LEAVE WITH THE BOARD SINCE YOU GUYS ARE THE STEWARDS OF THE ELECTIONS DEPARTMENT, IS THAT DESPITE ALL THIS HOOPLA ABOUT FRAUD, LACK OF TRANSPARENCY, PROBLEMS HERE, PROBLEMS THERE WITH THE BALLOTS, NOT WITH THE BALLOTS, THE ONE THING THAT I WANT TO LEAVE YOU WITH IS THE FACT THAT NO ONE UP TO THIS POINT, HAS BEEN ABLE TO PROVE THAT DESPITE ALL THE PROBLEMS WE MIGHT HAVE OR NOT HAVE WITH OUR ELECTIONS DEPARTMENT, NO ONE HAS PROVED THAT ONE VOTE IN SHASTA COUNTY WAS COUNTED THAT SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN COUNTED. NOT ONE VOTE WAS NOT COUNTED. >> DIANA ROSS, FOLLOWED BY CHRISTIAN GARDNER, JEFF GORDER, HOLLY MOORE, FOLLOWED BY MARJORIE ECHO BONGARZ. >> WELCOME. >> GOOD MORNING, BOARD. HONORABLE CHAIRMAN, BOARD OF SUPERVISORS. MY NAME IS DIANA RAMIREZ, AND I'M YOUR REPRESENTATIVE FROM WM. THE PURPOSE OF TODAY'S PUBLIC COMMENT IS TO GIVE AN UPDATE ON THE ROLLOUT OF THE ORGANIC SERVICES COLLECTIONS THAT BEGAN ON OCTOBER 6TH, AND I'M HAPPY TO REPORT THAT IT WAS A VERY SUCCESSFUL ROLLOUT. FOLKS HAVE BEEN COLLECTED A COUPLE OF TIMES SINCE THE BEGINNING, AND THERE'S BEEN NO CARRYOVERS OF SERVICE, MEANING WE HAVEN'T HAD TO PUSH SERVICE TO A FUTURE DATE. THERE'S BEEN NO TECHNOLOGICAL OR LOGISTICAL ISSUES, AND ALL CONTAINERS WERE DELIVERED AS SCHEDULED. THE SECOND PART OF TODAY'S MESSAGE IS TO CLARIFY A PERCEPTION OF THE CONTAMINATION CHARGES. I WANT TO BE VERY DIRECT, AND STATE THAT THERE ARE NO CONTAMINATION CHARGES FOR PUTTING RECYCLING OR ORGANICS IN THE TRASH CONTAINER. AGAIN, THERE ARE NO CONTAMINATION CHARGES FOR PUTTING RECYCLING OR ORGANICS IN THE TRASH CONTAINER. I THINK THE MISPERCEPTION MAY BE COMING FROM AS A REQUIREMENT OF THE SB 1383 REQUIREMENTS THAT WE HAVE TO CONDUCT LID LIFTS TO BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY IF RECYCLING OR ORGANICS IS GETTING INTO THE TRASH CONTAINER. AS A PART OF THE REQUIREMENT, A NOTIFICATION MUST BE MADE TO THE CUSTOMER. BUT THERE ARE NO CHARGES ASSOCIATED WITH THAT NOTIFICATION. AGAIN, THAT'S ALL PART OF THE REGULATION. IF YOU HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS, PLEASE CONTACT US BY E MAIL AT SHASTA COUNTY ORGANICS AT WM.COM OR CALL US AT 530-999-6045. I'D ALSO LIKE TO REMIND EVERYONE THE RIBBON CUTTING. THE DATE HAS BEEN CHANGED TO WEDNESDAY, DECEMBER 3RD, AT 7:30 IN THE MORNING, AND THE INVITES ARE HERE IN THE DOCUMENT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. YES. >> ONE QUESTION. SUPERVISOR LONG. >> THANK YOU, CHAIR. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. I WAS CONTACTED BY A CONSTITUENT THAT SAID THAT THE PICKUP FOR THE GREEN WASTE WOULD BE EVERY TWO WEEKS, AND THEY WERE WORRIED ABOUT MAGGOTS AND THINGS, ALL WEIRD STUFF IF YOU WAIT THAT LONG. BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT IT'S THE SAME DAY AS THE REGULAR TRASH PICKUP, AND THE RECYCLING HAS BEEN ALTERED TO A DIFFERENT DATE. IS THAT ACCURATE? >> THAT IS ACCURATE, MR. LONG. >> BECAUSE THERE'S GOING TO BE AN INCREASE IN COST BECAUSE OF THE EXTRA PICKUP FOR MOST PEOPLE'S BILLS. HOW DO THEY AVAIL THEMSELVES OF A SENIOR DISCOUNT? WHAT DO THEY DO FOR THAT? >> ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS CONTACT US. THEY CAN CONTACT US AT THE E MAIL OR THE PHONE NUMBER THAT I JUST PROVIDED. WE'VE GOT OFFICE HOURS AT OUR OFFICE FROM 9:00 A.M UNTIL NOON. THEY CAN ALWAYS CONTACT THE REGULAR CUSTOMER SERVICE NUMBER AS WELL OR EVEN CONTACT US BY CHAT. ALL OF THOSE METHODS ARE AVAILABLE. ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS PROVIDE PROOF OF AGE. THAT'S IT. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ONE MORE QUESTION. SUESA HARMAN. SUE HARMAN. >> YES. I GOT IT. >> BY A CONSTITUENT YESTERDAY THAT WAS FINED $31 IN SOME CHANGE FOR PLASTIC BAGS IN THEIR PLASTIC RECYCLE. CAN GONE THAT BECAUSE THAT SEEMED A LITTLE MUCH. >> MR. CHAIRMAN, WE'RE STARTING TO EXCEED THE PUBLIC COMMENT. [01:00:02] >> MORE THAN HAPPY TO FOLLOW UP WITH THAT SPECIFIC CUSTOMER AFTER AT A BETTER TIME. >> SUPERVISOR KELSTROM WAS WONDERING IF THERE WILL BE LIGHT SNACKS OR BREAKFAST SERVED AT 7:30 ON THE AD. >> WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT REFRESHMENTS ARE AVAILABLE. >> SUPERVISOR KELSTROM IS THE GREATEST SPORT. I GOT TO TELL YOU. FOR AS BIG AS HE IS, HE LETS ME GET AWAY WITH THAT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> NEXT UP, CHRISTIAN GARDNER, FOLLOWED BY JEFF GORDER, HOLLY MOORE, MARJORIE ECHO BONGARTZ, THEN THOMAS H. IF I CALLED YOUR NAME, PLEASE GET IN QUEUE. >> GOOD MORNING. >> GOOD MORNING. THE COUNTY CONTINUES TO WITHHOLD THE CPRA INFORMATION REQUESTED. I HOPE IT'S JUST A DELAY. THE ROV INDICATED THAT HE'S WORKING WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE TO INDICT JOANNA AND TOM. THE REQUEST IS ALL COMMUNICATIONS BETWEEN THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT AND THE ROV. THAT BELONGS TO THE PEOPLE. THE OTHER PIECE OF INFORMATION THAT I NEED ON A CRPA IS WE HAVE REQUESTED A LIST OF PEOPLE WHO ARE WORKING IN THE ROVS OFFICE NO MATTER WHAT CAPACITY, AND WE NEED TO GET THAT. THE OTHER THING I'M GOING TO DO IS THAT THERE'S ANOTHER CPRA. >> THIS IS ON THE EVENT TONIGHT AND I'M SURE MR. CRYE IS GOING TO BE THERE, AND PROBABLY MR. KELSTROM, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT CORKEY. THERE ARE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT LEGALITY INFRINGEMENT, AND SO I'M SUBMITTING THAT FOR REVIEW OF COUNTY COUNCIL. THERE CONTINUES TO BE LIES, MISINFORMATION SPEWING FROM THE ROVS OFFICE. HOWEVER, I WANT THE BOARD AND THE COMMUNITY TO UNDERSTAND THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA SECRETARY OF STATE, AS WELL AS THE ASSEMBLY COMMITTEE, AS WELL AS THE SENATE COMMITTEE, AS WELL AS GAIL PERLIN. THEY'RE ALL AWARE OF THIS DIRECTLY AND THEY INDICATED THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A FULL STAFF HERE ON NOVEMBER 4TH TO TAKE A LOOK AT HOW THINGS GO. PUBLIC NEEDS TO BE AWARE THESE GUYS ARE FRAUDSTERS. >> JEFF GORDER, FOLLOWED BY HOLLY MOORE, MARJORIE ECHO BONGARDS, THOMAS H, THEN LESLIE SAWYER. >> GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE. I WANTED TO GIVE A KUDOS TO THE BOARD FOR THE UNANIMOUS CONDEMNATION OF THE ROV CURTIS FOR WHAT I CONSIDERED OUTRAGEOUS ACTIONS, PROBABLY UNLAWFUL ACTIONS ON HIS PART. SO KUDOS TO THE BOARD ON THAT, I THINK IT SENDS A VERY STRONG MESSAGE. I WAS HAPPY TO SEE THE POTENTIAL EXPENDITURE OF SOME OPIOID FUNDS FOR NARCAN DISPENSING MACHINES. I WOULD ENCOURAGE THE BOARD. IT'S BEEN A YEAR NOW SINCE THOSE 20 ORGANIZATIONS APPEARED BEFORE THE BOARD AND ALMOST A YEAR SINCE THE BOARD VOTED UNANIMOUSLY TO BRING BACK A NUMBER OF THOSE ORGANIZATIONS, AND ENCOURAGE THE BOARD TO CONSIDER THE MAT PROGRAM IN THE JAIL, THE MEDICALLY ASSISTED TREATMENT PROGRAM IN THE JAIL THAT WAS SUPPORTED BY THE SHERIFF. I THINK THAT WOULD BE AN EXCELLENT USE OF THE OPIOID FUNDS. I BELIEVE THAT JILL PHILLIPS OF THE SUBSTANCE USE COALITION SAID THAT THAT WOULD BE A PRIORITY OF HERS, THAT THAT WAS A GAP IN HER VIEW THAT NEEDED TO BE FILLED. THERE'S MORE THAN ADEQUATE RESOURCES TO INVEST IN THAT PROGRAM. I THINK THAT WOULD BE AN OUTSTANDING WAY TO USE THOSE DOLLARS, ESPECIALLY PEOPLE LEAVING THE JAIL. POTENTIALLY MOVING TO THE ALTERNATIVE CUSTODY CENTER, STARTING THE TREATMENT WHILE THEY'RE IN THE JAIL, MOVING OUT TO OUTPATIENT TREATMENT. I WOULD HIGHLY ENCOURAGE THE BOARD TO CONSIDER THAT AS A USE FOR OPIOID EXPENDITURES. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> HOLLY MOORE, FOLLOWED BY MARJORIE ECHO BONGARDS, THEN THOMAS H, LESLIE SAWYER, THEN DOLORES LUCERO. >> WELCOME. >> THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS HOLLY MOORE. I'M A RESIDENT OF THIS COUNTY, AND I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT I SUPPORT CLINT CURTIS AS REGISTER OF VOTERS AND HIS EFFORTS TO HAVE CLEANER ELECTIONS. DID YOU HEAR ABOUT THE WOMAN IN ORANGE COUNTY WHO REGISTERED HER DOG TO VOTE? IT VOTED IN THE 2021 RECALL. WELL, ACTUALLY, THE OWNER DID AND THAT'S A CRIME. HOW MANY DOGS ARE IN OUR VOTER ROLES? WE ALL WANT ROVS WHO WILL LOOK FOR THAT TYPE OF CRIME, AND I BELIEVE THAT CLINT WILL DO THAT. IN SAN JOAQUIN COUNTY, 70 PEOPLE HAD 1850 BIRTH YEARS IN THE VOTER ROLES. THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE. THEY COULD HAVE FOUGHT IN THE CIVIL WAR WITH THOSE BIRTH YEARS. THE REGISTRAR OF VOTERS IN THAT COUNTY SAID, WE KNOW ALL ABOUT THAT. THAT'S A LEFTOVERS FROM THE 1970S WHEN WE SWITCHED OVER OUR SYSTEMS. [01:05:03] THE ROVS IN THAT COUNTY HAD 50 YEARS TO CORRECT THAT GLARING ERROR, BUT DIDN'T. THIS IS WHY I APPRECIATE MR. CURTIS BECAUSE HE IS LOOKING FOR THOSE KINDS OF DISCREPANCIES TO FIX. NOW THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS GIVEN US A TOOL CALLED THE SAVE ACT, SAFEGUARD AMERICAN VOTER ELIGIBILITY ACT TO SEE IF PEOPLE ARE DEAD OR ILLEGALS IN OUR ROLES. IT'S MEANT TO STOP THEM FROM RECEIVING PUBLIC BENEFITS, BUT IT CAN BE USED TO CLEAN THE VOTER ROLES SINCE BOTH THE US CONSTITUTION AND THE CALIFORNIA CONSTITUTION STATE THAT ONLY US CITIZENS ARE ALLOWED TO VOTE. MANY COUNTIES HAVE USED THE SAFE TOOL WITH GREAT SUCCESS. IN FACT, TEXAS JUST REMOVED THOUSANDS OF ILLEGALS FROM THEIR VOTER ROLES. CLEAN ELECTIONS ARE BASED ON CLEAN VOTER ROLES. WE DON'T WANT DOGS, DEAD PEOPLE, OR ILLEGALS IN OUR ROLES, AND I SUPPORT MR. CURTIS' EFFORT TO CLEAN THE VOTER ROLES, SO THAT OUR ELECTIONS ARE CLEAN, AND I'D LIKE YOU TO BACK HIM TOO. THANK YOU. >> MARJORIE ECHO BONGARDS, THOMAS H, LESLIE SAWYER, DOLORES LUCERO, THEN STEVE KHAN. IF I CALLED YOUR NAME, PLEASE GET IN QUE. >> MORNING. >> GOOD MORNING, SUPERVISORS, PUBLIC, STAFF. I SENT YOU SUPERVISORS COPIES OF THE CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES NONCOMPLIANCE LETTERS ON REVIEW OF SHASTA COUNTY HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES AND IN EVERY AREA OF MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES ACT, WE'RE OUT OF COMPLIANCE. MAINLY STAKEHOLDER INVOLVEMENT. THE MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES ACT FUNDING IS TO BE PLANNED WITH STAKEHOLDER INVOLVEMENT AND PROGRAMS REVIEWED BY THE MENTAL HEALTH DRUG AND ALCOHOL ADVISORY BOARD PRIOR TO SUBMITTING TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS FOR FINAL APPROVAL. I AM ASKING THAT YOU REMOVE ALL HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES ITEMS FROM TODAY'S CONSENT CALENDAR, AND MOVE THEM TO REGULAR AGENDA WHERE THE PUBLIC CAN COMMENT AND YOU CAN FULLY REVIEW WHAT YOU'RE BEING ASKED TO APPROVE. THIS AGENDA IS NEARLY 900 PAGES LONG AND BURIED INSIDE ARE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN BEHAVIORAL HEALTH SPENDING REQUEST. INCLUDING THE MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES ACT ANNUAL REPORT THAT SHOULD BE FILLED OUT BY THE MENTAL HEALTH DRUG AND ALCOHOL ADVISORY BOARD, BUT IS FILLED OUT BY STAFF, AND THEY ARE REVIEWING THEMSELVES. [NOISE] THE LEVEL UP NORCAL INNOVATION PROJECT IS REPLACING THE HORSE ENCOUNTER PROJECT, WHICH IS IN THE THREE YEAR PLAN. NO ONE AT THE MENTAL HEALTH DRUG AND ALCOHOL ADVISORY BOARD, IT HAS NOT BEEN DISCUSSED. THE LEVEL UP NORCAL PROJECT REPLACES HORSE ENCOUNTERS, AND IT WAS NEVER PRESENTED TO THE PUBLIC FOR INPUT, AND IT REDIRECTS INNOVATION FUNDING, CREATES STAFF POSITIONS IN SCHOOLS, INSTEAD OF DIRECT COMMUNITY SERVICES. I REPEAT THAT ONE MILLION DOLLARS IS GOING TO BE REPLACING THE HORSE ENCOUNTERS WITH STAFF IN SCHOOLS. >> THOMAS H FOLLOWED BY LESLIE SAWYER, DOLORES LUCERO, STEVE KHAN, THEN DON DECK. IF I CALLED YOUR NAME, PLEASE GET IN QUE. THANK YOU. >> WELCOME. >> GOOD MORNING, THOMAS H. SOMETIMES, I THINK GROWING UP, I WAS TOLD THAT THE SMALL THINGS MAKE A GOOD FOUNDATION. WHEN I FIRST STARTED COMING HERE A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO AND I STILL DO, I SIT AND LISTEN AND READ MOSTLY. I WAS ASTOUNDED AT THE CONSENT ITEM SAYS THAT SOME OF OUR COUNTY OWNED ANTIQUES WERE MISSING. I ENJOY THE GRAIN OF WOOD. I'M NOT VERY GOOD AT IT, BUT I APPRECIATE IT. I'D COME HERE DOWNSTAIRS AND YOU'D SEE THESE NICE ANTIQUE STUFF. ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU'D SEE SOMETHING SAY, THEY'VE DISAPPEARED, AND SINCE WE WERE REPORTING IT, WE'RE NOT RESPONSIBLE. I GO THAT SOUNDS FUNNY. THE PUBLIC OWNS IT AND ALL SUDDEN THEY CAN DISAPPEAR. NOBODY DOES ANYTHING ABOUT IT? TO ME, THAT'S LIKE STEALING. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS REMEMBER BIG TOM [INAUDIBLE]. HE AND I WERE FRIENDS, AND I SAID, TOM, WHAT DOES THIS MEAN? HE GOES, THAT GIVES HIM THE RIGHT TO STEAL AND GET AWAY WITH IT. I GO, WELL, THAT'S WHAT IT SAYS. THEN I WENT TO MY SUPERVISOR PAM AND SHE GOES, YEAH, WE GOT TO CHANGE THAT AND SHE CHANGED THE VERBIAGE. SINCE THEN, I'VE KEPT AN EYE OUT, AND IT'S HARD TO FIND WHEN SOMETHING THEY KNOW HOW TO HIDE IT. BUT THE LAST TIME SOME SURPLUS THINGS WERE SHOWING UP WAS DOWN AT COTTONWOOD AT I THINK TRICIA CLARK, SENIOR SENIOR, BUT THEY WERE THERE AND ALL SITTING THERE MISSING, BUT WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT. BUT I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT YOU TUCK [01:10:02] SOME PART OF THE FOUNDATION OF SMALL THINGS SO THAT SHOWED INTEREST. I THINK THAT YOU DID THAT, KEVIN, AND I APPRECIATE IT. >> THANK YOU. >> LESLIE SAWYER, FOLLOWED BY DOLORES LUCERO, STEVE KHAN, BENJAMIN NOWAIN, THEN JENNY. IF I CALLED YOUR NAME, PLEASE GET IN QUE. >> HI. I AGREE WITH YOUR MOTION TO BRING BACK A LETTER ABOUT THE SHUTDOWN, BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE MORE APPROPRIATE TO INCLUDE OUR CONGRESSMAN DOUG LAMALFA THAN THE PRESIDENT, BECAUSE IT'S CONGRESS AND SENATE THAT NEED TO WORK TOGETHER ON GETTING IT RESOLVED, NOT NECESSARILY THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION. YOU COULD LEAVE THEM ON IT, BUT I WOULD SUGGEST WE DO OUR LOCAL ELECTED CONGRESSMAN LAMALFA, AND OUR SENATORS. BUT OTHER THAN THAT, I AGREE WITH THAT. LAST WEEK AT SKOE, A COMMUNITY MEMBER WHO'S ON THE BOARD SPOKE ABOUT YOUTH OPTIONS LOSING THEIR CONTRACT BECAUSE IT'S NOT GOING TO BE RENEWED NEXT YEAR. SO NOT ONLY HAS A GOOD ORGANIZATION LOST A CONTRACT, BUT THEY ALSO ALREADY LOST SO MUCH FROM ADMITTED FRAUD AND THEFT THAT OUR DISTRICT ATTORNEYS DOING NOTHING ABOUT. WE HAVE A LOT OF REALLY GRIFTING ORGANIZATIONS IN THE COUNTY THAT ARE GETTING AWAY WITH REALLY BAD THINGS, AND THEN WE HAVE GOOD ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE DOING GOOD WORK AND HAVE ACTUAL RESULTS, WHO ARE JUST BEING TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF AND RAKED OVER THE COALS OVER AND OVER AND OVER. YOUTH OPTION SHASTA IS ONE OF THOSE GROUPS THAT ACTUALLY IS GETTING RESULTS FOR SOME OF THE WORK THAT'S BEING DONE, AND THEY ARE GETTING KICKED EVERY DIRECTION. I DON'T KNOW IF ONE OF YOU WANTS TO TAKE THAT UP, BUT THERE'S THAT INFORMATION IF YOU WANT IT. THEN I UNDERSTAND AND I AGREE WITH YOUR CHOICE TO SAY EVERYBODY NEEDS TO BE TREATED EQUALLY WHEN IT COMES TO THE ROV, BUT FOR YEARS, I PUT IN REQUESTS ASKING KATHY, ALLEN IGNORED EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM. JOANNA WOULD SAY, I'LL LET YOU KNOW IN THE NEXT PRESS CONFERENCES OR I'LL GET YOU THE PRESS RELEASE AND NEVER DID. SHE WAS NICE ABOUT IT, BUT NEVER DID IT. THIS IS NOT A NEW ISSUE. IT'S BEEN AN ISSUE FOR YEARS. IN FACT, KATHY FLAT OUT REFUSED TO ENGAGE OR RESPOND TO ANY REQUEST. IT'S BEEN HAPPENING FOR YEARS, AND IT'S NOT JUST HIM. >> DOLORES LUCERO FOLLOWED BY STEVE KHAN, BENJAMIN NOWAIN, JENNY, THEN DAVID HALLIGAN. >> WHAT CLINT CURTIS DID WAS A FELONY, LET'S FACE IT. WHAT HE DID IN THE ELECTION DEPARTMENT IS A FELONY. I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT DISCRIMINATION AND HATE. DISCRIMINATION IS A SERIOUS CRIME ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'RE A PUBLIC OFFICIAL, LIKE KEVIN CRYE WHO GETS ON THE RADIO TO BAD MOUTH CITIZENS. ON HIS RADIO, HE IS ALWAYS PUTTING DOWN THE OTHER PEOPLE. HERE HE'S SUPPOSED TO BE AN EXAMPLE, FREEDOM OF SPEECH AND ALL THAT. YEAH, YOU HAVE THAT. BUT TO DISCRIMINATE PEOPLE, THEN YOU DO IT HERE IN THIS CHAMBER, AND YOU ABUSE YOUR POSITION. PEOPLE THAT YOU DON'T LIKE AND PEOPLE THAT YOU LIKE AND WHO YOU FAVOR, YOU FAVOR LESLIE SAWYER, WHO COMES UP HERE AND TELLS YOU, I WAS AFRAID OF MR. BENJAMIN, SO NOW YOU CLOSE A DAMN CHAMBER TO KICK US ALL OUT BECAUSE SHE CRIED AND CRIED WOLF BASICALLY, AND SAYING SHE WAS AFRAID, SHE AIN'T AFRAID. HAVE YOU EVER HEARD HER YELLING OUT THERE IN THE HALLWAY? YOU DON'T HAVE NO BALLS IN FRONT OF HER CHILD ON THE FLOOR. NO, SHE'S NOT AFRAID. SHE'S JUST TRYING TO MANIPULATE HER, TRYING TO GET YOU TO GET PEOPLE OUT OF HERE, BUT THAT'S A SERIOUS CRIME. [NOISE] WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO WHEN IT STARTS RAINING AND IT GETS COLD, YOU'RE STILL GOING TO KICK US OUT WHEN YOU GO TO CLOSED SESSION? THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF PEOPLE ATTENDING MORE MEETINGS. YOU CAN'T HAVE THAT. YOU CAN'T JUST CLOSE IT BECAUSE YOU DON'T LIKE CERTAIN THINGS THAT HAPPEN. IT'S SAFER INSIDE THAN IT WOULD BE OUTSIDE. SO FOR YOU ACTUALLY, WE NEED TO PROTECT. YOU NEED TO MAKE SURE YOU TREAT PEOPLE EQUALLY, NOT JUST YOUR LITTLE GROUP THAT HATES CERTAIN PEOPLE, YOU ATTACK THEM TO RETALIATE AGAINST THEM, TO SILENCE THEM BECAUSE THEY HAVE A FREEDOM, THE SAME FREEDOM THAT EVERYBODY ELSE DOES, JUST BECAUSE YOU DON'T LIKE THEIR OPINION OF WHAT THEY HAVE TO SAY. HATE AND DISCRIMINATION, YOU CAUSED THAT AGAINST US SO YOU ARE ACCOUNTABLE. >> THANK YOU. >> STEVE KHAN FOLLOWED BY BENJAMIN NOWAIN, JENNY, DAVID HALLIGAN, THEN NICK GARDNER. >> MORNING BOARD, STAFF, COMMUNITY MEMBERS. I WANTED TO RESPOND TO THE ONE WOMAN THAT WAS COMPLIMENTING OUR ROV AND MENTIONED DOGS VOTING AND PEOPLE VOTING THAT WERE BORN IN THE 1850S. [01:15:02] I'M JUST WONDERING, SO HOW MANY OF THESE SITUATIONS HAS OUR ROV DISCOVERED? HOW MANY DOGS WERE VOTING IN SHASTA COUNTY, APPARENTLY, THAT'S RELEVANT, BUT I DON'T KNOW OF ANY DOGS VOTING. I DON'T KNOW OF ANYBODY THAT GOT KICKED OFF THE ROLES THAT WAS BORN IN THE 1850S BY CURTIS. I'M NOT SURE WHY THAT'S IMPORTANT. THE OTHER THING IS THAT I'M CONCERNED WITH OUR ROV, AND THE OFFICE. I TOOK A TOUR OF THE OFFICE, AND LAURA HOBBS SEEMED TO HAVE FREE REIGN OF OUR ROV OFFICE AND SHE HAS BEEN ONE TO ADVOCATE FOR ILLEGAL PROCEDURES AS FAR AS THE VOTING IS CONCERNED. THAT IS WHAT SHE TRULY BELIEVES IS CORRECT. TO HAVE HER HAVE ACCESS TO BALLOTS, ESPECIALLY SINCE NOW, HOW YOU VOTE COULD BE OBSERVED THROUGH THE HOLE IN THE ENVELOPE, WHICH TO ME GOES BACK TO CURTIS NOT DOING DUE DILIGENCE PRIOR TO SENDING THESE OUT. IT'S AN EXTREME CONCERN TO ME TO HAVE MANY ELECTION DENIERS BASICALLY HAVE TOTAL ACCESS TO THE BALLOTS AND TO THE ELECTIONS OFFICE. ANYWAY, I THINK IT SHOWS POOR JUDGMENT ON THE ROVS BEHALF AND POOR JUDGMENT ON CRYE AND THE BOARD MAJORITY THAT VOTED HIM INTO THIS POSITION. WE COULD HAVE HAD AN EXPERT HANDLING THE ELECTION SYSTEM, BUT INSTEAD, WE HAVE SOMEONE WITH NO ELECTION EXPERIENCE, AND EVEN THE ASSISTANT ROV HAS NO ELECTION EXPERIENCE. THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE LAWYERS, AND YET THEY'RE GETTING US INTO LEGAL POOR SITUATIONS POSSIBLE LAWSUITS. THANK YOU. >> BENJAMIN NOWAIN, FOLLOWED BY JENNY, DAVID HALLIGAN, THEN NICK GARDNER. IF I CALLED YOUR NAME, PLEASE GET IN QUEUE. >> I DID WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE ELECTIONS OFFICE A LITTLE BIT. I DID GO TO THE OPEN HOUSE. I HAD SOME CONCERNS, BUT THERE WAS AN INTERESTING PROSPECT OF HOW THE ELECTION WAS GOING TO BE PERFORMED, BUT NOW I HAVE OTHER ISSUES. LIKE THE LIVE STREAMING PIECE, I HAVE NO IDEA WHERE THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE. I'M A TECHNOLOGY-DRIVEN PERSON, SO SEND ME A LINK, PUT IT ON THE MAIN PAGE, SAY LIVE UP HERE, TELL ME WHERE TO GET TO IT. I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE HECK THAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE OR WHERE IT'S PURPORTED TO BE, AND YET, THIS IS THE CRUX OF MR. CURTIS' SYSTEM. THE OTHER BIG ISSUE, AND I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE TALKED ABOUT IT IS THE INDIVIDUALS IN THAT OFFICE ARE EITHER DIRECTLY RELATED TO LITIGATION WITH THE COUNTY BASED ON ELECTIONS, OR HAVE BEEN STANDING OUTSIDE THE ELECTIONS OFFICE HOLDING SIGNS THAT SAY ELECTION FRAUD IS HAPPENING HERE, OR HAVE ADDITIONALLY BEEN PUTTING OUT ADS, ASKING FOR PEOPLE'S BALLOT INFORMATION ILLEGALLY OUTSIDE OF THE COUNTY'S PURVIEW. THESE PEOPLE ARE NOW EXTRA HELP EMPLOYEES AT THE COUNTY, RECEIVING A PAYCHECK WITH GOVERNMENT MONEY, WITH OUR MONEY. IT'S ASTONISHING TO ME. I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW WE GET TRUST FROM WHAT IS CURRENTLY BEING PROPOSED IN OUR ELECTION SYSTEM. IT'S ACTUALLY BEYOND THE PALE RIGHT NOW. THE OTHER ISSUE IS CURTIS'S RESPONSE TO BEING CONDEMNED BY ALL FIVE OF YOU, SOMETHING I AGREED WITH, BY THE WAY. I ACTUALLY THOUGHT IT WAS PRETTY BRAVE OF YOU GUYS TO DO THAT. BUT YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER THREE OF YOU GUYS PICKED THIS PERSON TO RUN THE OFFICE. PART OF THAT FALLS ON YOU. BUT THEN HE DOUBLES DOWN. MR. CURTIS DOUBLES DOWN AND TELLS NEWS AGENCIES THAT HE BELIEVES THERE'S SOMETHING ILLEGAL GOING ON, AND THEN HE'S GOING TO TRY TO TURN THIS PERSON DOWN. THAT DOESN'T EVEN MATTER. YOU HAVE TO GIVE FREE ACCESS TO EVERYONE. [NOISE]. >> JENNY, FOLLOWED BY DAVID HALLIGAN, FOLLOWED BY NICK GARDNER. >> THANK YOU, BOARD FOR ALLOWING PUBLIC COMMENT TODAY AND ALLOWING THE VOICES OF THE COMMUNITY TO BE HEARD, WHETHER YOU AGREE WITH THEM OR NOT. TODAY IS A MIXED BAG, A TRUE THANKFULNESS THAT YOU TOOK A STAND FOR THE FREEDOM OF THE PRESS ON THE DAY OF YOUR CIVIC ENGAGEMENT PROCLAMATION, THE DAY IT TOOK EFFECT. YOU PICKED THE FIRST AMENDMENT THIS TIME. AT THE SAME TIME, LISTENING TO THE WAY THE ELECTION STAFF HAS BEEN TRASHED. A PLACE THAT I'VE SPENT COUNTLESS HOURS. THE BOARD'S DECISION TO PICK A CHARLATAN HAS HAD CONSEQUENCES EVEN BEFORE THE ELECTION STARTED. CHOOSING PEOPLE IN THE MIDST OF A LAWSUIT WITH THE ELECTIONS OFFICE TO RUN THE ELECTIONS OFFICE, CHOOSING PEOPLE FROM THE ELECTIONS TASK FORCE, THE ELECTIONS COMMISSION TO RUN THE ELECTIONS, SEEMS SUSPICIOUS AND AT LEAST AND A STRANGE CONFLICT OF INTEREST AT MOST. THE FACT THAT PEOPLE WOULD FILM THEIR BALLOTS BEING TURNED IN TO PROVE THEY'VE TURNED THEM IN, AND EVEN MORE SUSPICIOUSLY DON'T HEAR BACK FROM THE COUNTY TO SAY THEIR BALLOTS HAVE BEEN RECEIVED IS CHAOS. [01:20:01] IT'S FRIGHTENING. IT'S AN ATTACK ON OUR DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC. EVEN MORE SO. HEARING ON CAMERA, WHAT THE SECOND OF COMMAND THINKS OF HIS OWN STAFF, HE'S RESPONSIBLE FOR HIRING. IT'S DISGUSTING. I MAY NOT GET ALONG WITH LAURA HOBS RICH GALARDO, BUT IF THEY'RE WORTHY OF BEING HIRED, THEY'RE WORTHY OF RESPECT FROM THEIR SUPERIORS. TO END, SEVERAL PEOPLE HAVE CALLED THE SECRETARY OF STATE. SEVERAL. PLEASE DON'T TRY TO PULL THE WOOL OVER OUR EYES. WE SEE CLEARLY, WE'RE PAYING ATTENTION, AND WE WILL NOT STAND IDLY BY WHILE THE WOLF RAVAGES THE HENHOUSE. WE, THE PEOPLE WILL NOT DROP IT. >> DAVID HALLIGAN, FOLLOWED BY NICK GARDNER. >> GOOD MORNING, BOARD. >> GOOD MORNING. >> ONE OF THE MANY ITEMS WHEN MEASURE A PASSES THAT REALLY WILL BENEFIT OUR COUNTY ARE THE MONIES THAT SHASTA COUNTY WILL RECEIVE EACH AND EVERY YEAR FOR THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT. THAT'S APPROXIMATELY $3.6 MILLION FROM THE CITY OF READING. THOSE DOLLARS WILL GO TO CUSTODY SERVICES LIKE THE JAIL, AND ALSO CAN BE USED TO ENHANCE AND STRENGTHEN THE CURRENT ALTERNATIVE CUSTODY PROGRAM. HOW WILL THESE FUNDS, THE 3.6 MILLION HELP THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT? WELL, IT'S GOING TO HELP REDUCE JAIL OVERCROWDING IN ISSUE HERE FOR YEARS. KEEP CRIMINALS THAT SHOULD BE LOCKED UP. MAYBE USED IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE AMITY FOUNDATION THAT MR. CRYE SPOKE ON THIS MORNING AND HAS BEEN SO HIGH ON. PROMOTE REHABILITATION. PARTICIPANTS CAN ACCESS SERVICES LIKE COUNSELING AND TREATMENT AND GET EDUCATED ON LIFE AFTER JAIL, WHICH CAN LEAD TO A MORE SUCCESSFUL INTEGRATION INTO SOCIETY. DECREASE COST. THESE PROGRAMS REDUCE THE FINANCIAL BURDEN ON TAXPAYERS BY LOWERING THE COST ASSOCIATED WITH HOUSING INMATES IN A COUNTY JAIL. SOUNDS LIKE A WIN-WIN TO ME. BUT MR. CRYE HAS SAID HE WILL PASS ON THE 3.6 MILLION FOR SHERIFF JOHNSON'S PROGRAMS. CHAIR CRYE STATES REPEATEDLY, I WILL NEVER VOTE FOR TAX INCREASES. REMEMBER THIS, 3.6 MILLION A YEAR, 10 YEARS, YOU'RE PASSING ON $36 MILLION THE FIRST 10 YEARS. REMEMBER, GEORGE BUSH SAID THE SAME THING. READ MY LIPS. NO NEW TAXES. LEARN FROM HISTORY, CHAIR CRYE. LEARN FROM HISTORY. AGAIN, $36 MILLION. I ENCOURAGE THE VOTERS OF READING TO VOTE YES ON MEASURE A, WHICH IS AN INVESTMENT IN OUR CITY, IN OUR FUTURE. THANK YOU. >> THANK GARDNER. >> WHEN IT COMES TO MEASURE A, IF YOU TRUST THE GOVERNMENT, VOTE YES. IF YOU DON'T TRUST THE GOVERNMENT, VOTE NO. IT'S THAT SIMPLE. HEY, WITH THIS FINANCIAL SHUTDOWN IN OUR COUNTRY, I THINK IT'S HELPING OUR HEALTH BECAUSE I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY CHEM TRAIL SINCE THEN. THEY'RE PROBABLY NOT GETTING FINANCED. IT'S GOING TO BE INTERESTING, SEE IF THEY START UP AGAIN AFTER THIS IS SETTLED. WHEN IT COMES TO THE ELECTION DEPARTMENT DOWN THERE, I DON'T KNOW WHY NONE OF THESE PEOPLE SIGNED UP. THEY COULD HAVE SIGNED UP AND GONE DOWN THERE AND BEEN PART OF THE SOLUTION. INSTEAD, THEY'RE JUST PISSING AND MOANING. IT'S THE SAME OLD THING. IT GETS OLD. IF YOU DON'T TRUST CURTIS, YOU COULD HAVE SIGNED UP AND YOU COULD HAVE OBSERVED AND BEEN ON THE GROUND FLOOR, BUT NO, WE'LL COME UP HERE AND WHINE. BOO TO YOU, TOO. I'M NOT A BIG FAN OF REHABBING PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT'S ORDERED BY THE COURT. I DON'T BELIEVE THAT IT WORKS, BUT WE'RE GOING TO DO IT. WE'RE DOING THE SAME THING ALL OVER THE COUNTRY, AND I DON'T THINK THE SUCCESS RATE IS ALL THAT GOOD. BUT YOU'VE GOT TO HAND IT TO OUR PRESIDENT TRUMP, INSTEAD OF TRYING TO REMEDY GIVING HIM SOLUTIONS. HE'S GIVEN A SOLUTION. HE'S GOING TO THE ROOT PROBLEM. I'M PROUD OF HIM DOWN THERE BLOWING UP SMUGGLING BOATS, AND WE'VE GOT OUR ARMY ON THE BEACHES, WELL ALMOST ON THE BEACHES OF VENEZUELA AND COLOMBIA. IF WE STOP THE DRUGS FROM COMING INTO OUR COUNTRY, OUR CRIME RATE WILL PLUMMET. I CAN'T BLAME CHAIR KEVIN CRYE FOR MAYBE MENTIONING ONE OR TWO PEOPLE ON HIS SHOW WHEN HE'S BEEN BEAT UP ON FOR ABOUT TWO OR THREE YEARS HERE. THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] >> CHAIR, THAT WAS OUR LAST SPEAKER. >> THANK YOU. I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE CONSENT CALENDAR MINUS C21, [CONSENT CALENDAR] WHICH HAS BEEN PULLED BY SUPERVISOR LONG. >> I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE CONSENT WITHOUT C21. >> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION BY SUPERVISOR PLUMMER, SECONDED BY SUPERVISOR LONG. ANY DISCUSSION? NO. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. >> AYE. >> AYE. >> PASSES 5-0. SUPERVISOR LONG. [C21 Find the “EOC Northern Expansion Project,” Contract No. 610015, categorically exempt in conformance with the California Environmental Quality Act (CEQA) Guidelines 14 CCR Section 15303, Class 3 – New Construction or Conversion of Small Structures, Section 15304, Class 4 – Minor Alterations to Land, and Section 15311, Class 11 – Accessory Structures, approve plans and specifications, and direct the Public Works Director to advertise for bids, and authorize the opening of bids on or after November 20, 2025, at 11:00 a.m.] DO YOU WANT TO KICK US OFF WHILE YOU PULLED C21? FOR DISCUSSION. >> YES, THANK YOU, CHAIR. [01:25:02] >> SURE. >> I WAS LOOKING AT THIS, AND THERE WERE PARTS TO THIS THAT, AND I UNDERSTAND IT NOW AFTER DOING SOME RESEARCH. THIS IS JUST A REQUEST TO GO OUT FOR AN RFP FOR A NEW BUILDING, NORTHERN EXPANSION PROJECT DOWN AT THE SHERIFF'S EOC CENTER. WHAT I WANTED THE PUBLIC TO KNOW, AND MAYBE UNDER SHERIFF RANDALL HERE TO ANSWER SOME QUESTIONS. YES, PLEASE. IT SOUNDED LIKE THE $4.5 MILLION FOR THE ESTIMATE OF THIS FROM THE CAO'S OFFICE FOR THIS PROJECT WAS ALREADY A SUFFICIENT APPROPRIATIONS FOR THIS PROJECT ARE INCLUDED IN THE FISCAL '25-'26 BUDGET. I DON'T THINK THAT'S ACTUALLY THE CASE. I THINK THAT WHAT IT MAY HAVE WANTED TO READ WAS BUDGET APPROPRIATIONS HAVE BEEN INCLUDED TO GO OUT FOR RFP, NOT THE 4.5 MILLION. I SPOKE YESTERDAY AT LENGTH WITH JEN ROSSI AND WANTED TO JUST HAVE BRYCE TALK TO THAT POINT. >> THANK YOU, SUPERVISOR LONG. BRYCE RITCHIE, SENIOR ADMINISTRATIVE ANALYST, COUNTY ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICE, FILLING IN FOR JEN. THAT IS CORRECT. I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO CLARIFY THAT. THAT WAS A MISTAKE ON OUR PART. THE TOTAL FOR THE PROJECT, WE DON'T KNOW IF IT'S BEEN BUDGETED OR NOT, BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'S GOING TO COST. THE ENGINEERS WILL TELL YOU THE ESTIMATE IS EXACTLY THAT. IT'S AN ESTIMATE. IT'S OUR BEST GUESS. TO THIS POINT, AND FOR THIS ITEM, AND FOR ANY COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS ITEM, FUNDS HAVE BEEN APPROPRIATED TO COVER IT, WHICH IS WHY WE CATEGORIZED UNDER NO ADDITIONAL GENERAL FUND IMPACT. IF THE BIDS COME IN HIGHER THAN WE WERE ANTICIPATED AND WE WOULD NEED ADDITIONAL FUNDING. WE WOULD LOOK TO DO A BUDGET AMENDMENT, OR WE WOULD LOOK TO SCALE BACK THE PROJECT, RE-FLY THE PROJECT UNDER DIFFERENT PARAMETERS TO GET LOWER BIDS OR GO OUT AND SECURE ADDITIONAL FUNDING. >> THANK YOU FOR THAT INFORMATION. I DON'T SEE THE NEED TO DISCUSS THE FINE POINTS OF THE PROJECT AT THIS POINT. SUFFICE IT TO SAY THAT THE CAO'S OFFICE WOULD LOOK AFTER THE RFP AT FUNDING SOURCES TO MEET WHATEVER THE RFP COMES IN AT, AND MAYBE 4.5 MILLION IT MIGHT COME IN LOWER THAN THAT OR WHEREVER WE END UP WITH THAT. THEN WE'LL DEAL WITH ADDRESSING FUNDING AT THAT TIME WITH A FUTURE BOARD DISCUSSION. >> THAT'S CORRECT. WE WOULD WORK COLLABORATIVELY WITH PUBLIC WORKS WHO HANDLES THE SPECIAL PROJECTS, AS WELL AS THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, WHO'S THE BENEFITING DEPARTMENT, TO MAKE SURE WE HAD THE APPROPRIATE FUNDS ALLOCATED, AND IF WE NEEDED ADDITIONAL AUTHORITY, WE WOULD HAVE TO RETURN TO THE BOARD. >> I SPOKE WITH JEN AND I CONSIDER THIS TO BE A REGULAR ITEM GOING FORWARD IN THE FUTURE. SHE'S GOING TO FLAG THIS, SO THAT WE CAN BRING THIS BACK AS AN R ITEM ONCE THE RFPS COME BACK IN, AND WE'RE GOING TO ACTUALLY TAKE ANY BOARD ACTION TO APPROVE FUNDING. >> THAT'D BE FINE. TRADITIONALLY, THESE ARE NORMAL AND CUSTOMARY, SO WE WOULD PUT THEM ON CONSENT, WHICH IS WHY I WAS ON CONSENT TODAY. IF THE BOARD WANTS TO PULL THE ITEM OR PREFERS TO HAVE IT ON THE REGULAR CALENDAR, THEY CAN ALWAYS DIRECT US TO DO THAT. >> THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. >> YOU HAVE A MOTION? >> I WOULD MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE C21. >> I'LL SECOND. >> SECOND BY SUPERVISOR KELSTROM. WAS THERE ANY SPECIFIC PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THIS ONE? >> CHAIR, THERE WASN'T WHEN I LAST LOOKED. GIVE ME JUST ONE LAST LOOK. NO, WE DON'T HAVE ANY. >> HOW ABOUT THAT? >> YES. SUPERVISOR PLUMMER. >> YEAH, A FEW FOLLOW-UP QUESTIONS THERE. WHEN YOU'RE SAYING THAT IF THIS REQUIRES ADDITIONAL FUNDING IN THE FUTURE, IT WILL COME BACK. IS THERE A SCENARIO IN WHICH IT WOULDN'T REQUIRE ADDITIONAL FUNDING? >> I'M SORRY. I DON'T REMEMBER THE AMOUNT WE BUDGET OF OFFHAND, BUT IF THE BIDS WERE TO COME IN MATERIALLY LOWER THAN WHAT WE BUDGETED, THEN WE WOULDN'T NEED ADDITIONAL FUNDING. WE WOULD HAVE SUFFICIENT APPROPRIATIONS ALREADY IN THE BUDGET. >> IN THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR BUDGET, THERE ARE [OVERLAPPING]. >> THAT'S WHAT WE'VE APPROVED. >> FOR AND WHERE IS THAT LOCATED IN THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT? >> LB&I, AS WELL AS I THINK IT'S COMING DIRECTLY OUT OF THE SHERIFF'S BUDGET. BUT LB&I WOULD HAVE ALL OF THE CAPITAL PROJECTS LISTED. >> THAT'S THE 4.5 MILLION. >> WE DON'T HAVE THE FULL 4.5 MILLION, WHICH WAS THE PREMISE FOR SUPERVISOR LONG'S QUESTIONS. THAT IS THE ENGINEER'S ESTIMATE, SO WE REALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PROJECT'S GOING TO COST US, YET. WE DO HAVE A CHUNK OF MONEY SET ASIDE, ROUGH ESTIMATE, 1.5 MILLION. IF IT COMES IN MORE THAN THAT, WE WOULD NEED TO, AGAIN, EITHER COME BACK FOR MORE APPROPRIATIONS, LOOK TO CUT, [01:30:03] SO WE COULD LOWER THE THRESHOLD OR RESPECT THE PROJECT AND REBID IT, SO WE COULD GET AN ESTIMATE THAT WE COULD AFFORD OR JUST PRESS PAUSE AND LOOK FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDING. >> WE HAVE 1.5MILLION BUDGETED FOR, AND OUR ENGINEERS' ESTIMATES ARE 4.5 MILLION. >> CORRECT. >> FOR ME, AT THIS POINT, I'M NOT GOING TO SUPPORT THIS. THE REASON IS, WHILE OBVIOUSLY, THERE'S EFFICIENCIES TO BE GAINED FROM THIS, I THINK GIVEN WHERE WE STAND IN TERMS OF THE FEDERAL FUNDING, WHICH COULD IMPACT OUR GENERAL FUND WITH ALSO WHAT WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT LATER IN TERMS OF THE SOCIAL SERVICES FUND THAT PUTTING THE MONEY INTO THIS BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE'RE SPENDING 100,000 A YEAR ON [OVERLAPPING]. >> JUST OVER 100,000 A YEAR, I'LL ADD THAT NONE OF THE 1.5 WAS COMING OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND. IT WAS ALL FUNDED BY IMPACT FEES OR A SMALL PORTION FOR LARGE ANIMAL EVACUATION WAS FUNDED BY ZOGG FIRE FUNDS. EVEN IF WE WERE TO SPEND ALL 1.5 MILLION, THERE IS NO CURRENT GENERAL FUND IMPACT FROM THE PROJECT. >> BUT THE ESTIMATES ARE THREE MILLION MORE THAN THAT. THE LIKELIHOOD THAT WE END UP GETTING BIDS FOR 1.5 MILLION SEEMS IMPROBABLE. >> CORRECT. WE WOULD LOOK TO PURSUE OTHER FUNDING SOURCES OR WORK WITH, THIS ISN'T APPROVING THE BUDGET FOR THE PROJECT. WHATEVER THE BIDS COME IN AT, WE HAVE TO RETURN TO THE BOARD. AT THAT POINT, THAT'S WHEN WE WOULD KNOW THE ACTUAL PROJECT COSTS. >> [INAUDIBLE] GO AHEAD, TROY. >> ONE ITEM TO CLARIFY, TOO. ALSO, THAT $4.5 MILLION IS THE TOTAL BUDGET FOR THE TOTAL PROJECT, NOT WHAT WE [OVERLAPPING]. NOT THE ENGINEER'S ESTIMATE FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THIS BUILDING. I DON'T HAVE THE NUMBER IN FRONT OF ME, BUT ALSO SOME OF THESE THINGS, THE DESIGN, MANY THINGS HAVE ALREADY BEEN DONE UP TO DATE. WHAT DO WE PAY FOR THE METAL BUILDING ALREADY? >> I DON'T KNOW. >> THE METAL BUILDING HAS BEEN PURCHASED 400,000 FOR THAT. THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT ARE ALREADY INCLUDED IN THAT 4.5 MILLION THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN BUDGETED FOR AND SPENT. I'M SORRY, I DON'T HAVE OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD WHAT THE ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION OF THE BUILDINGS COST, WHICH IS WHAT THE 1.5 MILLION IS TO COVER, BUT IT'S NOT FOR THE WHOLE 4.5 MILLION. >> LET ME ASK YOU JUST REALLY QUICK. WHAT'S THE TIME FRAME ON THIS, TROY, IF WE WANTED TO BRING THIS BACK, BECAUSE [OVERLAPPING]. >> TO BRING BACK. >> WELL, I'M JUST SAYING IF SUPERVISOR LONG AND PLUMMER HAVE MORE QUESTIONS, I DON'T WANT THEM. DOES THIS SOMETHING THAT HAS A HARD DEADLINE OF TODAY? COULD THIS BE PUSHED WHERE THEY CAN MORE CONVERSATION? >> NO, NOTHING SUNSETS ON THIS, DOES IT? >> DOESN'T SUNSET, BUT OUR GOAL WAS TO BE DONE BY NEXT JUNE BECAUSE THAT'S WHEN OUR CURRENT LEASE EXPIRES. >> WEEK'S NOT GOING TO KILL IT IF THEY WANT MORE INFORMATION. >> IT WOULDN'T NECESSARILY KILL IT RIGHT NOW THAT I KNOW OF. BUT AS WE MOVE INTO THE WINTER SEASON AND CONSTRUCTION GETS DELAYED, I DON'T KNOW HOW BAD A WEEK IS GOING TO IMPACT US. >> SUPERVISOR PLUMMER, YOU DONE? >> YEAH. >> SUPERVISOR LONG. >> IN TALKING WITH JEN, THIS PROJECT STARTED OUT AT THE TUNE OF ABOUT TWO MILLION. BECAUSE OF THE DELAYS AND INFLATION AND EVERYTHING ELSE, NOW WE'RE UP TO THE 4.5. I THINK TO SUPERVISOR PLUMMER'S POINT, AND I DON'T KNOW. I THINK IT'S BEEN ALREADY CLARIFIED, BUT THIS IS JUST IS SIMPLY THE AUTHORIZATION TO GO OUT FOR AN RFP AND SEE WHERE THE BIDS COME BACK IN AND HOW THOSE LINE UP TO THE 4.5 MILLION. WE'RE MAKING NO DECISIONS ABOUT THE PROJECT GOING FORWARD OR ANYTHING. WE'RE NOT ADDRESSING FUNDING NEEDS OR ANYTHING AT THIS POINT. IT'S JUST STRICTLY TO GO OUT FOR RFP. >> THAT'S CORRECT. >> I GUESS I WOULD JUST SAY TO THAT SUPERVISOR ON THAT, IN MY MIND, IF WE'RE GOING TO AUTHORIZE SPENDING THE TIME TO GO OUT TO BID, WE SHOULD BE PREPARED TO SPEND THE 4.5 MILLION OR WHATEVER THAT MINUS WHAT WE'VE ALREADY SPENT, WHICH MAYBE IS 500,000, $1 MILLION, BASED ON THE 400,000 THAT YOU SHARED. THAT'S WHERE I STAND. IF I'M NOT PREPARED TO SPEND THE 4.5 MILLION, AND WHETHER THAT BE THROUGH IMPACT FEES OR GENERAL FUND DOLLARS IN THE FUTURE, THEN I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S WORTH THE TIME. BECAUSE I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO FIND OUT THAT IT COMES BACK FOR BID AND SOMEHOW IT'S TWO MILLION VERSUS 4.5 IF THE ENGINEER ESTIMATES. MAYBE IT'S FOUR MILLION RATHER THAN 4.5. >> THE ONLY THING I WOULD SAY TO THAT, AND WE'LL LET THIS GO, BUT WOULD BE THAT WE'VE ALREADY INVESTED THROUGH VARIOUS FUNDING SOURCES, AND WE HAVE A $400,000 METAL STRUCTURE THAT'S LYING IN PIECES OUT AT THE EOC. SOME OF THE OTHER INSULATION FACTORS HAVE BEEN SECURED, SO THEY'RE WEATHER PROOF, IF YOU WILL. WE'RE ALREADY INTO THIS. I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF AT LEAST HEARING IF THIS COMES BACK AS A SURPRISE, [01:35:02] AND MAYBE THE BIDS COME IN WAY UNDER THAT 4.5 MILLION, BECAUSE WE'VE ALREADY INVESTED $400,000 INTO THE PIECES OF THIS. IF WE DON'T GO OUT FOR AN RFP TODAY, WHAT WOULD HAPPEN TO ALL THOSE METAL PIECES WOULD JUST WAIT FOR A FUTURE DATE THAT WE COULD POSSIBLY ADDRESS NEW FUNDING? >> IF THE BOARD'S DECISION TODAY WAS TO DELAY FOR WANTING TO SECURE MORE FUNDING, WE WOULD WORK WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE TO PURSUE THAT AVENUE. I'LL JUST ADD THAT THE LONGER WE WAIT, THE MORE THINGS ARE GOING TO COST. THE CURRENT AMOUNT THAT WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT IS AN AMOUNT PLUS INFLATION BY THE TIME WE GET OUT TO CONSTRUCTION PLUS ADDITIONAL LEASE NEXT YEAR. >> WE ARE GOING TO STOP IT. WE BEAT THIS UP ENOUGH. WE HAVE A MOTION BY SUPERVISOR LONG. ANYBODY ELSE IN Q. DON'T SEE IT. WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND TAKE THE MOTION BY SUPERVISOR LONG, SECONDED BY SUPERVISOR KELSTROM TO APPROVE ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. >> AYE. >> AYE. >> OPPOSED. >> AYE. >> OKAY, SO 41, PLUMMER DISSENTING. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. MOVING ON. WE HAVE R4, CORRECT? [R4 Take the following actions: (1) Approve an amendment to the agreement with Health Alliance of Northern California for the purchase and installation of six naloxone vending machines; (2) approve budget amendments which increase appropriations and revenue by $90,670 in the Alcohol & Drug Programs Budget (BU 422) and in the Opioid Settlement Admin Budget (BU 430); and (3) designate authority to the Health and Human Services Agency Director, or their designee, to sign future documents and amendments, including retroactive.] YES. JOHN IN THE ROOM. JON TAYLOR. KRISTIE IS JOHN COMING UP? IS HE HERE? I GUESS THAT'S GOING TO BE YOU. >> [INAUDIBLE]. >> YES. >> [INAUDIBLE]. >> THAT WORKS, TOO. BRING HER ON UP. I'M JUST GOING OFF MY NOTES. I'M JUST READING THE WRITTEN TELEPROMPTER OF WHO I'M INTRODUCING. STEPHANIE NOW IS GOING TO GET A DEMERIT. I'M JUST KIDDING. WELCOME. HOW YOU DOING? >> GOOD MORNING, KATIE CASSIDY, PUBLIC HEALTH. I'M ACTUALLY INTRODUCING SHAWNA STRATTON, ONE OF OUR TEAM MEMBERS WHO WILL BE PRESENTING ON THE NALOXONE VENDING MACHINES. >> GREAT. >> WHO WOULD THOUGHT THAT THIS WAS GOING TO BE HAPPENING MUCH LATER IN YOUR MEETING. I JUST WANT TO TALK TO YOU, FIRST OF ALL, THAT THE NALOXONE VENDING MACHINE PROJECT DIDN'T COME FROM YOU FROM PUBLIC HEALTH. BERNIE PUT A GROUP OF COUNTY DIRECTORS TOGETHER WHEN WE THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO GET $2 MILLION, AND SO THE COUNTY DECIDED THEY WANT TO DO A NALOXONE VENDING MACHINE. I HAVE AN MBA, AND THEY KICKED THE PROJECT OVER TO ME JUST TO LOOK AT THE VIABILITY OF THE PROJECT. I FELT LIKE IT WAS A GREAT BANG FOR OUR BUCK. THAT'S JUST KIND OF THE HISTORY OF IT. SPENDING THE $39 MILLION, THIS WOULD ONLY COST US 0.004% OF THAT FUNDING. HOWEVER, THE MACHINES THEMSELVES HAVE IPADS IN THEM AND THEY COLLECT DATA THAT WE CAN USE FOR REPORTING. IT'S GOING TO GIVE US A MASSIVE AMOUNT OF REPORTS TO REPORT BACK TO THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTHCARE SERVICES. THE BOARD CAN DECIDE ANY DATA THAT THEY WANT TO COLLECT, IF WE WANT TO OFFER PEOPLE TREATMENT THROUGH THOSE IPADS, IF WE WANT TO COMPARE DIFFERENT REGIONS OF SHASTA COUNTY AND SAY, OKAY, WE PUT A MACHINE UP IN SHINGLETOWN, THAT REDUCED THE RATES OF OVERDOSE, AND THEN WE DIDN'T PUT ONE IN IGO AND ONO, AND IT DIDN'T REDUCE THE RATES OF OVERDOSE. WE CAN DO SOME COMPARISON. THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME GREAT STORIES THAT COME OUT OF THIS PROJECT FOR VERY FEW FUNDING. TWENTY-FOUR COUNTIES ACROSS CALIFORNIA ARE CURRENTLY IMPLEMENTING VENDING MACHINE PROJECTS. JUST TO NAME A FEW OF THEM, FRESNO, DEL NORTE, PLUMES, MODOC. ANOTHER THING I WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW ABOUT IS THESE WILL BE PLACED REGIONALLY IN THE AREAS OF A HIGHER OVERDOSE ACROSS THE COUNTY. THEY WILL BE PLACED INDOORS IN MOST INSTANCES. ONE OF THEM WILL BE OUTSIDE, BUT UNDER SURVEILLANCE. ALSO, I HAVE LETTERS OF SUPPORT. I HAVE SEVERAL OF THEM. I CAN PROVIDE THOSE TO IF YOU'D LIKE, BUT JUST NAME A FEW PEOPLE, THE RAD RANCHERIA. THE SHASTA COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT IS IN SUPPORT OF US AND HAS GIVEN US A LETTER, ALSO THE SHINGLETOWN MEDICAL CENTER, AND THERE'S A WHOLE LIST OF THEM. BUT JUST REFLECTING ON THE ADOPTION TODAY OF RED RIBBON WEEK. THERE'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE A PERCENTAGE OF THOSE CHILDREN WHO EXPERIMENT WITH DRUGS. IF PEOPLE HAVE NOLOXONE IN THEIR HOMES AND THEY HAVE IT ON HAND, AND WE HAVE THE SATURATION ACROSS SHASTA COUNTY THAT WE NEED TO REDUCE THE RATES, THEN WE CAN PREVENT KIDS WHO ARE JUST EXPERIMENTING WITH DRUGS OR A CHILD WHO JUST GETS INTO DRUGS. MANY PEOPLE WHO EXPERIENCE OVERDOSE, THAT'S THEIR ROCK BOTTOM. THERE ARE REPEAT OFFENDERS. THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO OVERDOSE MULTIPLE TIMES. BUT THOSE ARE NOT REALLY THE PEOPLE WE'RE TRYING TO REACH. WE DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO DIE FROM OVERDOSE, BUT WE'RE REALLY FOCUSED ON THOSE FIRST TIME. THIS LAST SUMMER, WE FOUND THAT COCAINE WAS BEING MIXED WITH FENTANYL FOR THE FIRST TIME AT SHASTA COLLEGE, IT WAS BEING DISSEMINATED TO STUDENTS AND STUDENTS WERE EXPECTING COCAINE, AND THEY GOT FENTANYL. I JUST THINK THIS IS A REALLY IMPORTANT PROJECT AND TIMELY THAT YOU'VE PROCLAIMED IT RED RIBBON WEEK AS WELL. [01:40:02] I ALSO WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW, I APPLIED FOR A GRANT FROM THE STATE AND I RECEIVED IT TO DO A MEDIA CAMPAIGN AROUND THE DISTRIBUTION OF NOCK ZONE. THESE VENDING MACHINES WOULD BE WRAPPED WITH THAT MEDIA CAMPAIGN. IT'S A HUGE CAMPAIGN. IT'LL MAKE THE MEDIA, ALL THE SOCIAL MEDIA, EVERYTHING LIKE THAT. THERE IS A ABOUT $10,000 MEDIA CAMPAIGN THAT'S ASSOCIATED THAT YOU WILL NOT HAVE TO PAY FOR, WILL NOT COME FROM OPIOID SETTLEMENT FUNDS. I ALSO JUST WANTED TO REMIND YOU LAST TIME THAT I PRESENTED TO YOU, THE BOARD ACTUALLY WANTED TO PUSH THIS FORWARD. FOUR OF THE SUPERVISORS VOTED FOR IT. SUPERVISOR CRYE, YOU SAID YOU WEREN'T AGAINST IT, BUT YOU DID HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS. WE DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO ANSWER SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS. I'M AVAILABLE NOW FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE ABOUT IT. >> I WAS PRETTY MUCH AGAINST IT THEN, AND I'M ADAMANTLY AGAINST IT NOW. I THINK IT JUST PERPETUATES BAD BEHAVIOR. I APPRECIATE THE HEART BEHIND WHAT I THINK, OR WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU FEEL ABOUT. THERE'S NO PROTECTION FOR ACCESS TO MINORS. WHAT'S REALLY TROUBLING TO ME IS, I FEEL LIKE IT REALLY GIVES PEOPLE AN OUT. I'VE TALKED TO PEOPLE THAT SAY, IT'S A REASON TO EXPERIMENT. THEY TRAIN EACH OTHER IN THE CAMPS, AND PEOPLE THAT HAVE WALKED THE CANYON WITH ME AND HHSA HAVE BEEN THERE WHEN WE'VE HAD THESE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT HOW THEY ADMINISTER. THEY KNOW HOW TO USE THE STUFF. I THINK THERE'S OTHER WAYS TO GET IT TO PEOPLE. I'M A HARD NO, BUT I'LL LET THE BOARD DISCUSS THAT, SUPERVISOR LONG, SORRY. >> THANK YOU, CHAIR. THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION TOO. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. I SPOKE WITH KATIE CASSIDY YESTERDAY. I GOT A LOT OF INFORMATION AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT SHE RESPONDED TO ME ON OUR PHONE CALL, AND THEN I HAD A LIST OF WRITTEN QUESTIONS THAT I WOULD JUST LIKE TO BRING FORWARD. CAN YOU TALK ABOUT A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT THE COMPONENTS OF THE NARCAN, WHICH IS JUST A BRAND NAME FOR NOXOLONE. IT'S LIKE A CAR VERSUS A FORD. NALOXONE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE PRODUCT ITSELF. DOES IT HAVE ANY COMPONENTS INTO IT THAT WOULD GET PEOPLE HIGH OR ANY OF THAT STUFF. IT'S JUST STRICTLY SOMETHING TO COUNTERACT THE EFFECTS OF WHAT THEY MAY HAVE ALREADY INGESTED? >> CORRECT. IT BLOCKS THE RECEPTOR IN THE BRAIN, AND IT JUST TAKES AWAY THEIR HIGH ALTOGETHER. >> CORRECT. >> NO RISK OF OVERDOSE OF NALOXONE. >> RIGHT. PEOPLE WON'T SEEK THIS OUT AS A FREE DRUG? >> ABSOLUTELY NOT. >> CHILDREN CAN ADMINISTER IT. IT'S JUST LIKE A LITTLE NASAL SPRAY THAT YOU PUMP IN THEIR NOSE. >> I TALKED WITH KATIE, AND SHE MENTIONED HOW THE TRAINING WOULD OCCUR. >> YES. >> MAYBE YOU COULD TALK ABOUT THAT SO THAT [OVERLAPPING]. >> ALL THESE FACILITIES ARE ALREADY TRAINED TO USE NALOXONE, SO IT'S GOING TO BE IN SHASTA COMMUNITY HEALTH CENTERS IN ANDERSON AND SHASTA LAKE CITY, PLACER. THE JAIL, EVERYONE AT THE JAIL IS TRAINED TO USE NALOXONE AND SHINGLETOWN MEDICAL CENTER, HILL COUNTRY. ALL THESE DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH WILL REPLACE THE MACHINES. THEY ARE TRAINED AND THEIR STAFF ARE TRAINED TO USE IT. HOWEVER, INCLUDED IN THE BUDGET, THE PEOPLE WHO DELIVER THE MACHINE WILL ALSO DO A TRAINING ON HOW TO USE THE SOFTWARE. >> OKAY. >> I ALSO WANTED TO BRING UP THAT NALOXONE IS FREE, SO I'M NOT ASKING FOR NALOXONE AT ALL. >> CORRECT. OKAY. I THINK AN IMPORTANT PART, YOU MENTIONED IT KIND OF BRIEFLY. BUT I KEYED ON THIS ONE I WAS TALKING WITH KATIE YESTERDAY, WHICH WAS THAT SOMETIMES A PERSON MAY INGEST SOMETHING THAT THEY HAD NO INTENTION OF INGESTING, AND THIS WOULD BE A MEANS TO COUNTERACT THAT, FIRST THING. SECOND THING IS WHEN PEOPLE GET TO THE POINT WE'RE NOT ENABLING, THEY GET TO THE POINT WHERE THE DRUG ADDICTION IS TAKEN OVER, AND THEY ARE OVERDOSING AND THEY'RE ABOUT TO DIE. THAT IS THE LOW POINT IN THEIR LIFE, AND IT'S FINALLY A WAKE UP CALL THAT THEY NEED TO GET SOME TREATMENT, AND THEY MIGHT PLUG INTO A TREATMENT PROGRAM AFTER THAT POINT IF THEY SURVIVE THAT INCIDENT. >> YES. LAST WEEK, WE HAD A WOMAN WHO CAME IN AND SHE WAS AT HER ROCK BOTTOM AND SHE WAS READY FOR TREATMENT, AND SHE'S STILL IN TREATMENT TODAY. I DON'T THINK THAT NALOXONE IS GOING TO MAKE PEOPLE WANT TO USE DRUGS OR ENABLE THEM TO CONTINUE USING DRUGS. SUPERVISOR CRYE, I WOULD AGREE WITH YOU THAT SOME PEOPLE, THEY'RE JUST AT AN ALL TIME LOW AND THERE'S NOT A LOT WE CAN DO TO HELP THEM. THE PEOPLE I WANT TO HELP ARE THE PARENTS WHO HAVE LOST CHILDREN OF OVERDOSE. THEIR HEART BREAKS. THOSE PEOPLE HAD ANOTHER CHANCE. THE LONGER WE CAN KEEP THEM ALIVE, THE MORE SUCCESSFUL WE CAN BE WITH TREATMENT. [01:45:06] >> ONE OF THE THINGS I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT, I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT JUST A MOMENT WAS LIABILITY FOR THE COUNTY, IF WE PROVIDE THIS PRODUCT AND SOMEONE DIES ANYWAY. DID WE JUST PARTAKE IN THAT DEATH AND ASSUME LIABILITY? THE ANSWER THAT KATIE TOLD ME WAS NO. SHE [OVERLAPPING]. >> SUPERVISOR AS FAR AS THE LIABILITIES, I WOULD LIKE THAT DISCUSSION TO BE WITH COUNTY COUNSEL'S OFFICE AND NOT SO MUCH WITH HHS. >> PERFECT. >> I'D LIKE TO RECOMMEND THAT IT FALLS UNDER THE GOOD SAMARITAN LAWS THAT [OVERLAPPING]. >> NO, YOU CAN'T GIVE LEAVE WITH US. >> OKAY [LAUGHTER]. >> SUPERVISOR. THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. IS THAT IT? THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. THIS IS GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT REDUNDANT. I GET IT, BUT I STILL WANT TO ASK IT AGAIN. WE KNOW WHERE ALL THESE VENDING MACHINES ARE GOING? >> CORRECT. >> THAT'S UNDER SUPERVISION? >> THAT'S CORRECT. EACH OF THESE PLACES ARE GOING TO ACTUALLY BECOME A RECIPIENT OF THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTHCARE SERVICES, AND NALOXONE WILL BE DISTRIBUTED DIRECTLY TO THEM. THEY WILL HOUSE THE MACHINES, THEY WILL SERVICE THE MACHINES. THE ONLY THING THAT WE WOULD GATHER FROM THOSE MACHINES IS THE DATA FROM THE SOFTWARE. ALL OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS HAVE COMMITTED TO TAKING RESPONSIBILITY FOR THESE MACHINES. >> BUT WHAT I'M GETTING AT IS THE SAME THING EVERYBODY'S CONCERNED ABOUT IS ARE WE CONDONING IT? ARE WE MAKING IT EASIER FOR THEM? YOU CAN'T USE IT ON YOURSELF. THE IDEA IS, IF YOU HAVE IT, AND SOMEBODY NEXT TO YOU OVERDOSES, YOU CAN USE IT ON THEM. >> YES. >> BUT IF WE HAVE IT READILY AVAILABLE FOR ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO, AND THEY'RE NOT TOTALLY INFORMED OR MAYBE THEY ARE, MAYBE THEY DO THE BUDDY SYSTEM. HEY, YOU CAN HAVE FUN, I'LL BE THE RESPONSIBLE ONE, AND I HAVE THE [OVERLAPPING]. >> LET ME BE ABUNDANTLY CLEAR. >> THANK YOU. >> PEOPLE DO NOT WANT TO USE NALOXONE. IT RUINS YOUR HIGH TO A DEGREE THAT YOU COME OUT ANGRY AND SWINGING. EMS GIVES TO THEM AND THEN BACKS THE HECK UP. IT SCREWS YOUR HIGH UP COMPLETELY. PEOPLE DO NOT WANT TO USE NOLOXONE. PEOPLE WHO ARE USING SUBSTANCES WANT TO BE HIGH, AND THEY DO NOT WANT TO USE NALOXONE, AND THEY'RE NOT REPEATEDLY USING NOLOXONE JUST SO THEY CAN GET HIGHER AND HIGHER AND HIGHER AND NOT HAVE AN OVERDOSE. >> THANK YOU FOR POINTING THAT OUT. BUT THAT WASN'T REALLY THE HAZARD. THE HAZARD IS, HEY, WE HAVE BACKUP. WE HAVE LITTLE INSURANCE HERE, SO LET'S HAVE SOME FUN. >> YEAH. >> THAT'S WHAT WE DON'T WANT TO CONDONE. >> PEOPLE DON'T WANT THAT INSURANCE. >> BUT I ALSO UNDERSTAND IN RESPONSIBLE HANDS, SAY, SCHOOL TEACHERS AT SCHOOL WHEREVER, BUSINESSES HAVE IT ON HAND. SOMEBODY THAT'S MEDICALLY TRAINED OR THE POLICE OFFICERS, THEY ALL HAVE ACCESS TO IT, MOST OF THEM. BUT WHERE'S THE MACHINES GOING TO BE? >> THERE'S GOING TO BE ONE IN ANDERSON AT THE SHASTA COMMUNITY HEALTH CENTER. HAVE YOU BEEN TO THEIR FACILITIES? THE SHASTA COMMUNITY HEALTH CENTER FACILITIES? THEY'RE BEAUTIFUL. THERE'S ONE IN ANDERSON, THERE'S ONE ON PLACER STREET, AND THEN THERE'LL BE ONE IN SHASTA LAKE. THEN WE'LL HAVE ONE AT THE JAIL. ALSO, THE CALIFORNIA STATE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC HEALTH IN SUPPORT OF THIS PROJECT HAS OFFERED TO GIVE US A FREE ONE THAT WILL BE PLACED AT THE GOODNEWS RESCUE MISSION. THEN WE'LL HAVE ONE IN SHINGLETOWN AT SHINGLETOWN MEDICAL CENTER, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE ONE AT TRY COUNTIES COMMUNITY NETWORKS UP IN BERNIE. >> MY QUESTION THOUGH IS, WHO'S MONITORING THOSE MACHINES? THEY'RE NOT GETTING MONITORED ALL THE PLACES. >> THEY'LL BE MONITORED. THIS MONEY WOULD ACTUALLY GO TO THE SHASTA SUBSTANCE UE COALITION. THE SHASTA SUBSTANCE USE COALITION WILL SUPPORT THOSE ORGANIZATIONS IF THEY HAVE ANY TROUBLE WITH THE MACHINES. BUT WE ARE PAYING MAINTENANCE FEES SO THAT IF ANYTHING GOES WRONG WITH THE MACHINE, THE ORGANIZATION ITSELF WOULD TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THAT MACHINE. IT WILL NOT BE IN THE COUNTY'S HANDS AT ALL. IT WILL BE THE SHASTA SUBSTANCE UE COALITION USING THIS PROJECT AND WORKING TOGETHER WITH THEIR PARTNER, SHASTA COMMUNITY HEALTH CENTER AND EVERYBODY ELSE I MENTIONED. >> THANK YOU. >> SUPERVISOR KELSTROM. >> GREAT PRESENTATION. GREAT JOB. I'M MIXED EMOTIONS ON THIS. I HAVE SOME OF THE FEARS THAT SUPERVISOR CRYE EXPRESSED THERE. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I THINK OVERALL, IF IT SAVES A LIFE OF ONE GOOD PERSON THAT HIT ROCK BOTTOM AND WAS ABLE TO COME BACK, I THINK IT'S WORTHWHILE. I SEE DR. MU IS IN THE AUDIENCE. I DON'T KNOW IF HE'D LIKE TO SPEAK AT ALL. DR. MU, DID YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING TO IT OR SHAWN PRETTY MUCH COVERED IT PRETTY CLEARLY. [01:50:03] >> IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR DR. MU, HE IS 100% IN SUPPORT OF THIS PROJECT. >> THAT WAS MY ONLY QUESTION I WAS GOING TO ASK HIM, SO. >> HE'S HERE FOR ME TODAY. >> THE FACT THAT OUR SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT SENT A LETTER IN SUPPORT I'M GOING TO HAVE TO GO WITH THE SHERIFF AND DR. MU, SO, THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> SUPERVISOR PLUMMER.. >> YES. THANK YOU, SHAUNA FOR THE PRESENTATION. I DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE A QUESTION. I KNOW WE'VE TALKED AT LENGTH ABOUT THIS, BUT I DID WANT TO JUST NOTE A FEW THINGS FOR FOLKS, BECAUSE I WOULD SAY THAT, I'VE HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS WITH DOCTOR MOU AND OTHERS AND YOURSELF AROUND HARM REDUCTION AND THE BALANCE THERE, AND DO YOU BELIEVE THAT WE NEED TO HAVE BOTH SIDES OF THE EQUATION HERE. ULTIMATELY, I'M SUPPORTIVE OF THIS. I THINK, WHEN I'VE LOOKED AT IT, I'VE SAID, AVAILABLE EVIDENCE EXIST FOR THIS OR AGAINST THIS. IT'S STILL PRETTY EARLY BECAUSE THE IDEA OF THESE VENDING MACHINES IS RELATIVELY NEW. BUT THERE ARE TWO STUDIES, ONE FROM NEVADA THAT SHOWED A 15% REDUCTION IN OVERDOSE DEATHS RELATIVE TO WHAT WAS PROJECTED BASED ON HISTORIC DATA. AND THERE WAS ALSO A STUDY IN GERMANY OF ALL PLACES THAT SHOWED WHEN THEY PUT IT IN THE JAIL THAT IT REDUCED OVERDOSE DEATHS THERE TO ZERO. THE AVAILABLE EVIDENCE, DOES SEEM TO INDICATE THAT THESE WILL BE BENEFICIAL. I THINK WHEN WE LOOK AT THE TRAJECTORY THAT WE'VE BEEN ON, AND JILL PRESENTED THIS BACK IN MAY, THAT WE'RE SEEING A SIGNIFICANT REDUCTION IN OVERDOSE DEATHS RELATED TO OPIOIDS IN PART BECAUSE OF THE ACCESSIBILITY OF NARCAN. I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK WITH A MOM IN SINGLETOWN, ACTUALLY, WHO LOST HER 19-YEAR-OLD, WHO THOUGHT THAT THEY WERE TAKING A PERCOCET PILL, AND THERE WAS FTANOL ON IT, AND HER DAUGHTER ENDED UP HAVING TO TELL HER THAT THEY HAD LOST THE SON. AND I THINK IF WE CAN PREVENT THOSE IN ADDITION TO SOME OF THESE OTHER CASES, THEN THAT WOULD BE A HUGE WIN, ESPECIALLY FOR THE LOW COST OF $90,000. THE LAST THING I'LL MENTION IS THAT 33 STATES ARE DOING THIS IN ADDITION. I KNOW SOMETIMES WE DON'T WANT TO TAKE THE CUE FROM OTHER COUNTIES IN CALIFORNIA, BUT 33 STATES, INCLUDING TEXAS AND OKLAHOMA, ARE ALSO MAKING THESE TYPES OF VENDING MACHINES AVAILABLE. WITH THAT, I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE SUPPORT THIS REQUEST AND APPROVE THE BUDGET AMENDMENT. LONG. >> THANK YOU, CHAIR, AND WE'RE ABOUT TO TAKE A VOTE. THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR INFORMATION. THE ONLY THING THE ONE THING I'D LIKE TO ADD TWO THINGS, THREE THINGS. WE'RE OUR SHERIFF, WHO IS OUR SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT, LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIAL, HEAD OFFICIAL. HE'S IN SUPPORT OF THIS. OUR PUBLIC HEALTH DOCTOR IS IN SUPPORT OF THIS. THAT WEIGHS HEAVILY WITH ME. SECOND THING IS THAT, I THINK WE HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT THERE ARE SITUATIONS WHERE YOU MIGHT HAVE A FAMILY MEMBER THAT'S GOT A DRUG PROBLEM AND HAVING A RESOURCE AVAILABLE IN YOUR HOUSE BECAUSE TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE THAT YOU CAN SAVE THE LIFE OF THAT FAMILY MEMBER. YOU DON'T HAVE TIME TO CALL THE POLICE. YOU DON'T HAVE TIME TO HAVE THEM BRING THEIR NARCAN, AND YOU JUST DON'T HAVE THAT TIME. THEY'RE GOING TO BE GONE BY THAT POINT. ESPECIALLY HAVING A SITUATION WHERE YOU KNOW THAT A FAMILY MEMBER MAY HAVE A DRUG PROBLEM, AND THEY COULD LIKELY OVERDOSE AT ANY GIVEN MOMENT, AND THEN HAVING THE RESOURCES TO GET THEM HELP AND KEEP THEM ALIVE, I THINK IT'S CRITICAL. I AM ABSOLUTELY IN SUPPORT OF THIS. >> THANK YOU. >> MISS BLESHIP, WE HAVE FIVE SPEAKERS, IS THAT CORRECT? >> THAT IS CORRECT, CHAIR. >> FIRST UP, JEFF GORDER, FOLLOWED BY LESLIE SAWYER, DON DUCKETT, JENNY, THEN BENJAMIN NUYNE. IF I CALLED YOUR NAME, PLEASE GET IN QUEUE. >> GOOD MORNING. I'D LIKE TO ENCOURAGE THE BOARD TO SUPPORT THESE VENDING MACHINES, I WAS GOING TO CITE SOME OF THE STATISTICS THAT SUPERVISOR PLUMBER HAD ALREADY CITED, 33 STATES ARE USING THESE NEVADA HAS BEEN USING THEM SINCE 2017. IN ADDITION TO THE 15% REDUCTION THAT NEVADA SAW, THERE WAS A STUDY IN OHIO CINCINNATI SHOWED A 10% REDUCTION IN OVERDOSE DEATHS, THE FIRST YEAR OF YOUTH. AS SUPERVISOR KELST SAID, IF THIS SAVES ONE LIFE, IT'S WORTH IT. THE EVIDENCE DEMONSTRATES THAT THIS DOES SAVE LIVES. NOW, THE ARGUMENT THAT SUPERVISOR CRAY IS USING IS THAT THIS IS SOMEHOW GOING TO ENCOURAGE, BAD BEHAVIOR THAT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO USE [01:55:02] THESE DRUGS BECAUSE THEY KNOW THAT THEY CAN COME BACK WITH NARCAN. NOW, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY EVIDENCE THAT WOULD SUPPORT THAT. EVEN IF YOU TAKE THAT ARGUMENT TO THE EXTREME, YOU WOULD SAY, WELL, LET'S NOT GIVE NARCAN TO FIRST RESPONDERS. LET'S NOT GIVE NARCAN TO ANYBODY. LET'S NOT EVEN MANUFACTURE NARCAN. BECAUSE THE FACT THAT NARCAN EXIST IS GOING TO LEAD PEOPLE TO USE DRUGS, SO LET'S JUST GET RID OF IT. IF YOU TAKE IT TO AN EXTREME, THAT MAKES NO SENSE. IT'S A LIFE SAVING DRUG. LET'S USE IT. WE HAVE, IF YOU HAD A FAMILY MEMBER, I THINK THAT'S THE MOST TELLING ANECDOTE THERE. I MEAN, ARE YOU GOING TO SAY, YOU HAVE A FAMILY MEMBER THAT'S USING FENTANYL, OR MAYBE THEY'RE NOT KNOWINGLY USING FENTANYL. MAYBE THEY'RE USING COCAINE. WELL, YOU COULD ARGUE, THEY SHOULDN'T BE USING COCAINE. IF THEY PLAY STUPID GAMES, THEY WIN STUPID PRIZES. ON THE OTHER HAND, YOU'VE GOT NARCAN AVAILABLE TO BRING THIS PERSON BACK. SOME YOUNG PERSON MAKES A STUPID MISTAKE. WE KNOW THEIR BRAINS AREN'T DEVELOPED. THEY DECIDE TO USE DRUGS. THEY'RE GOING TO USE DRUGS. WELL, YOU'VE GOT THIS AVAILABLE. WHY NOT UTILIZE IT? THE EVIDENCE SHOWS THAT IT WORKS. THE ARGUMENTS AGAINST IT ARE NOT SOUND, AND THE INVESTMENT IS MINIMAL. IT'S A NO BRAINER FOR ME, AND I ENCOURAGE, EVERYBODY, EXCEPT FOR SUPERVISOR CRAY TO VOTE IN FAVOR OF THIS. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> LESLIE SAWYER, FOLLOWED BY DON DUCKETT, JENNY, THEN BENJAMIN DWAYNE. >> THINK OUR OPO AID MONEY WOULD BE BETTER SPENT TOWARD PREVENTION AND TREATMENT. I THINK THE PARENTS OF THOSE WHO HAVE LOST KIDS DUE TO FENTANYL OVERDOSE, WOULD APPRECIATE ALL OF THIS MONEY RESEARCH FUNDING GOING TOWARD GETTING IT OUT AND GONE, ENDING FENTANYL, NOT ENCOURAGING MISUSE OF IT, BUT I DID DO SOME RESEARCH, SO LET'S DIVE INTO THAT. MANY STUDIES SHOW NARCAN SAVES LIVES, BUT THOSE SAME EXPERTS AND SAME STUDIES AND PUBLIC HEALTH ANALYSIS HIGHLIGHT SEVERAL DRAWBACKS, TO MAKING IT OVERLY AVAILABLE WITHOUT SUFFICIENT SAFEGUARDS. THOSE INCLUDE THAT ENCOURAGE RISKIER OPIOID USE AND MORAL HAZARD. IN AREAS WITH OVERLY AVAILABLE ACCESS, MANY HAVE TAKEN HIGHER DOSES AND MORE POTENT DRUGS, INCLUDING THINGS LIKE FENTANYL AS HEROIN, BECAUSE THEY USE NARCAN AS A SAFETY NET. THAT'S FROM A CDC 2023 REPORT THAT SHOWED AN INCREASE OF 9-12% IN USE AND INCREASE IN THE DOSES. THIS PERPETUATES ADDICTION CYCLES WITHOUT ADDRESSING ROOT CAUSES LIKE WITHDRAWAL AND CRAVINGS, NOT EVERYONE KNOWS HOW TO PROPERLY ADMINISTER, WHICH LEADS TO REPEAT FAILURES IN DELAYED EMERGENCY CALLS. TWENTY FIVE PERCENT OF UNTRAINED ADMINISTRATION FAILS. UNTRAINED USERS CALLED 911, 40% LESS OFTEN, ACCORDING TO AN NIH FUNDED STUDY IN 2024, RESULTING IN DEATH. THOSE 40% THAT DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO USE IT, ALSO DIDN'T CALL THE COP OR DIDN'T CALL THE AMBULANCE OR DIDN'T GO TO THE HOSPITAL AND THAT RESULTED IN DEATH. MANY OF THEM, NOT ALL 40%. REVERSAL OF THIS MEDICATION WEARS OFF IN 30-90 MINUTES RISKING OVERDOSE OR RE OVERDOSE IF USERS AREN'T HOSPITALIZED, SO OVERLY AVAILABLE NARCAN DOES NOT RELIEVE OUR ERS OF THIS ISSUE. IT IN FACT STILL REQUIRES THAT THEY BE TAKEN, OR CAN RESULT IN MORE DEATHS FOR THOSE NOW RECKLESSLY TAKING MORE DRUGS OR HIGHER DOSES. AS FAR AS OUR KIDS, THESE MACHINES AND THEIR MAINTENANCE ARE UNDER SUPERVISION. NO SUPERVISING THE ACCESS, WHICH MEANS THERE'S NO PROTECTION TO ACCESS FOR MINORS, SO YOUNG PEOPLE THINK IT'S A SAFE WAY TO EXPERIMENT. DANGEROUS SYMPTOMS OF NARCAN INCLUDE VIOLENT VOMITING AND DIARRHEA, EXTREME AGITATION, ANXIETY, HALLUCINATION, SUICIDAL OLATION, TACHYCARDIA, HEART ISSUES. WITH NO EDUCATION, TRAINING, IF IT KILLS ONE KID, THIS OVERLY AVAILABLE STUFF IS NOT WORTH IT. IF IT KILLS ONE KID BECAUSE THEY THOUGHT THEY COULD SAFELY ACCESS IT. I WOULD ASK IF YOU ARE NOT GOING TO VOTE NO, THAT YOU AT LEAST VOTE TO BRING IT BACK AND GIVE DOCTOR MOU A CHANCE TO REFUTE THIS EVIDENCE, AND MAKE SURE THAT WE PUT IN SAFEGUARDS AND ACCESS, ESPECIALLY TO MINE. >> JOHN DUCKETT FOLLOWED BY JENNY, FOLLOWED BY BENJAMIN NUYNE. >> BOARD. JUST PURELY FROM A FISCAL STANDPOINT, THE $90,000 BEING REQUESTED, [02:00:03] IF YOU LOOK AT THAT IN TERMS OF YOU MENTIONED SUPERVISOR LONG, CALLING THE POLICE IF SOMEONE OVERDOSES. WELL, IF A RELATIVE OR LOVED ONE HAS NARCAN AVAILABLE, THERE'S NO LONGER A NEED FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT TO SHOW UP OR EVEN EMERGENCY PERSONNEL BECAUSE ADMINISTERING THAT DRUG GIVES YOU TIME TO GET THE PERSON INTO MEDICAL CARE. IT DOES TAKE SOME STRESS OFF OF OUR EMERGENCY ROOMS. THIS IS WHY THIS PROJECT IS BEING SUPPORTED BY LAW ENFORCEMENT, AND SEVERAL OF YOUR MEDICAL COMMUNITY PARTNERS. I UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERNS, SUPERVISOR CRAY, BUT I THINK THAT IN THE BIG PICTURE, YOU AND I HAVE HAD A LOT OF VERY IN DEPTH DISCUSSIONS ABOUT ADDICTION. WE BOTH HAVE CLOSE FAMILY MEMBERS THAT SUFFERED FROM ADDICTION. YES, YOU UNFORTUNATELY HAD THE WORST POSSIBLE OUTCOME. I HAVE RECEIVED A LOT OF EDUCATION IN MY JOURNEY WITH MY SON AND HIS OPIOID ADDICTION. PART OF THE RECOVERY PROCESS, IT JUST DOESN'T HAPPEN ALL AT ONCE, AND MANY ADDICTS MAY OD ONCE OR TWICE, AND THEIR BIGGEST RISK OF OD WHEN THEY'RE RELEASED FROM JAIL OR EVEN REHAB. FOR THE FAMILY MEMBERS TO HAVE THAT AVAILABLE. BY THE WAY, MY SON HAS BEEN CLEAN AND SOBER FOR SIX YEARS. HE'S MAKING SIX FIGURES, PAYING TAXES. HE'S A GOOD PARENT. A HOMEOWNER. THESE PEOPLE AREN'T JUST THROW AWAY PEOPLE. THIS ISN'T EVERYBODY ELSE'S PROBLEM. I GUARANTEE YOU EVERYONE SITTING IN THIS ROOM PROBABLY HAS A CLOSE FAMILY MEMBER THAT IS SUFFERING FROM SOME ADDICTION. I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU SUPERVISOR CRAY TO MAYBE RE EVALUATE YOUR HARD NO ON THIS, AND ALSO YOU SUPERVISOR HARMAN. >> TEXTING WITH THE SHERIFF, MY ACTUAL NO IS BECOMING MORE STERN. BUT I APPRECIATE DAWN. I APPRECIATE YOU THERE. >> THANK YOU. >> DAWN, LISTEN, I REALLY DO, BECAUSE WE HAVE HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS ABOUT IT, AND DRUG AND DRUG USE IS TOUGH FOR FAMILIES. >> NEXT UP, JENNY, FOLLOWED BY BENJAMIN DWAYNE. >> LAST TIME UP HERE, I PROMISE. FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR SAVING LIVES FOR BRINGING THIS UP HERE. IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S GOING TO PASS, AND THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH BECAUSE NOBODY WANTS TO MAKE THE PHONE CALL. NOBODY WANTS TO MAKE THE PHONE CALL THAT THEY HAD NOTHING ON THEM, AND THEIR SON IS DEAD. THEIR BROTHER IS DEAD. THEIR IS DEAD. MY NIECE'S HUSBAND TOOK WHAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A PAINKILLER, BUT ENDED UP HAVING FENTANYL IN IT, AND IT KILLED HIM. SHE CALLED THE AMBULANCE, AND IT TOOK 20 MINUTES FOR THEM TO GET THERE. HE WAS LONG DEAD. SHE DID CPR THE ENTIRE TIME. IT WASN'T ENOUGH. [INAUDIBLE] IT SAVES LIVES. IT COULD HAVE SAVED THE FATHER OF MY FIRST CHILD. IT COULD HAVE SAVED SO MANY PEOPLE I KNOW MY LIFE. I KNOW SO MANY PEOPLE WHO HAVE MADE THAT PHONE CALL OR HAVE RECEIVED THAT PHONE CALL, YOUR SPOUSE IS DEAD, YOUR SON IS DEAD. YOUR DAUGHTER IS DEAD, YOUR 13-YEAR-OLD IS DEAD. DON'T THINK OF IT AS SOMETHING THAT HELPS A DRUG ADDICT. THINK OF IT AS ONE LESS PHONE CALL THAT HAS TO BE MADE. I KNOW YOU DIDN'T LIKE MAKING THOSE PHONE CALLS, KEVIN. >> BENJAMIN NUYNE. >> I'VE KNOWN A LOT OF PEOPLE IN MY LIFE THAT HAVE HAD DRUG ISSUES. I KNOW PEOPLE WHO USED TO TAKE NARCAN TO RAVES AND STUFF. THEY HAD BEEN CLEAN THEMSELVES, BUT THEY JUST KNEW. THEY KNEW OTHER PEOPLE WERE STILL HAVING DIFFICULTIES. THIS THE ARGUMENT THAT THE AVAILABILITY OF A LIFE SAVING MEASURE IS GOING TO IMPOSE BAD BEHAVIOR OR ENABLE IT. IT'S SAD. BECAUSE YOU'RE HAMSTRING US BECAUSE YOU AND MAYBE EVEN EFFECTIVELY, [02:05:01] KILLING A PERCENTAGE OF OUR POPULATION BECAUSE OF IDEOLOGY. IT'S NOT AN IDEOLOGY TO PUT A TOOL OUT THERE THAT IS AVAILABLE. I MEAN, CORKY, THERE'S BEEN PEOPLE IN YOUR HOUSE THAT HAVE HAD OVERDOSES. I MEAN, THIS IS THIS TOUCHES EVERY ONE OF US, BUT SEVERAL OF YOU UP THERE. I KNOW IT TOUCHES EVEN CLOSER. I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE TWO, YOU GUYS. >> THAT WAS OUR LAST SPEAKER, CHAIR. >> SUPERVISOR HARMON. >> I HAVE A MIND TO MAKE A MOTION IF WE CAN'T HEAR FROM DOCTOR MULL RIGHT NOW. IS IT POSSIBLE? >> SORRY TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT, BUT I JUST WOULD LIKE TO HEAR YOUR COMMENTS, YOUR FEELINGS ABOUT THE WHOLE VENDING MACHINE. >> SURE. MORE THAN HAPPY TO. FIRST OF ALL, I THINK DRUG USAGE IS A SCOURGE FOR OUR COUNTRY. BEING A CHINESE, I REMEMBER THAT WAS TOLD LONG BEFORE WE IN CHINA, WE HAD OPIUM WAR. THAT OPIUM HAD REALLY DESTROYED WHAT WAS CHINA BACK THEN. I WISH WE LIVED IN A SOCIETY THERE. THERE'S NO DRUG PROBLEMS, BUT IN REALITY, WE HAVE THIS PROBLEM. I'M HOPING THAT SOMEDAY WE WILL NOT BE EXPERIENCED AND DISCUSS THIS ISSUE. AM I 100% CERTAIN THAT THIS PROGRAM IS GOING TO PREVENT ALL SORTS OF DEATH? NO. EVEN WITH THIS PROGRAM, EVEN EVERY HOUSEHOLD HAS NARCAN, THERE'LL STILL BE SOME OVERDOSE DEATH. THIS PROGRAM WILL JUST REDUCE SOME OF THAT. WILL THIS PROGRAM PROMOTE MORE DRUG USAGE? THERE'S THAT POSSIBILITY? I DO NOT KNOW. I'M REALLY HOPING THAT WITH THESE MACHINES, IT HAS A PROGRAM THAT WOULD ENCOURAGE THOSE WHO GET THIS NARCAN, WILL ENCOURAGE THEMSELVES TO GET THE TREATMENT THEY NEEDED OR ENCOURAGE FAMILY MEMBER TO ENCOURAGE OTHER FAMILY MEMBERS TO HAVE TO GO INTO RECOVERY PROGRAM. >> CAN I ASK YOU QUESTION, DR. MO? >> OF COURSE. >> WHEN DOES A PERSON FIRST LIKELY TO USE AN ILLICIT DRUG? WHEN THEY'RE 40 OR WHEN THEY'RE 14? >> I THINK WHEN THEY'RE YOUNG, MOST LIKELY. >> MOST LIKELY. THE ACCESS TO THESE VENDING MACHINES ISN'T MONITORED, SO KIDS COULD ACTUALLY. THIS IS WHAT I WANT PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND. IT DOESN'T MATTER IF IT'S 90,000 OR 180,000. I'M FOR THIS. THIS DELIVERY SYSTEM, THESE NARCAN. THEY'RE READILY AVAILABLE. IT'S NOT LIKE YOU CAN'T GO TO PUBLIC HEALTH AND FIND THESE. I'M JUST SAYING IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE IN AN UNATTENDED VENDING MACHINE. IT'S LIKE HAVING A FIRE EXTINGUISHER. HOW MANY OF US HAVE FIRE EXTINGUISHERS IN OUR HOUSE? PROBABLY MOST OF US. BUT GUESS WHAT? YOU'RE GOING TO ALL GO HOME AND CHECK THE TAG TO SEE IF IT'S ACTUALLY UPDATED, BECAUSE NOW I'VE PUT IT IN YOUR MIND THAT MAYBE YOU SHOULD CHECK YOUR FIRE EXTINGUISHER TO MAKE SURE IT'S READILY AVAILABLE. I'M GOING TO PROBABLY GO GET A CANNABIS JUST TO HAVE IT AT MY HOUSE. JUST BECAUSE OF THIS PRESENTATION, AGAIN, WHY WOULDN'T I HAVE THAT? I'M SAYING THE DELIVERY SYSTEM IS WRONG, AND SHAME ON YOU JEFF GORDER FOR BRINGING UP MY BROTHER'S DEATH IN THE WAY YOU SAID IT, AND YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU DID. THAT'S DESPICABLE. THE OTHER THING I'LL TELL YOU ABOUT THIS, I CARE DEEPLY ABOUT KIDS. THIS, TO ME, IS 1,000% ABOUT KIDS HAVING ACCESS TO IT. I HAVE A SENIOR IN HIGH SCHOOL. I HAVE AN EIGHTH GRADER RIGHT NOW. I VERY MUCH KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THOSE KIDS ARE DOING, WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT, 'CAUSE WE TALK ABOUT IT IN MY HOME. I'LL JUST TELL YOU. FOR THE OTHER FOUR BOARD MEMBERS HERE, IF YOU WANT TO COME UP WITH A DIFFERENT WAY TO DO IT, I'LL SUPPORT IT FINANCIALLY. I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH GETTING THIS STUFF OUT TO FAMILIES. I THINK AN UNATTENDED VENDING MACHINE WHERE THE KIDS CAN GO GET IT, AND THE SHERIFF JOHNSON, AND I WILL SAY THIS, HE MIGHT BE WATCHING. I WILL TELL YOU EXACTLY WHAT HE SAID. HE JUST SAID, AND WE'RE GOING BACK AND FORTH, AND I SAID, KIDS HAVE ACCESS, AND IT LEADS TO EXPERIMENTATION. HE SAID, WELL, IT'S THE KIDS THAT MAY ACTUALLY SAVE EACH OTHER. YOU KNOW WHAT? I THINK THAT'S THE WRONG MESSAGE IN TERMS OF, LET'S PUT THE MONEY AND FOCUS ONTO PROGRAMS AND INITIATIVES TO SAY, HOW ABOUT NOT DOING IT AT ALL? THAT'S JUST ME. I'M A LITTLE PASSIONATE ABOUT IT. >> I THINK WE COULD ALL AGREE WITH THAT, AND I THINK WE SHOULD USE A LOT OF MONEY FOR PREVENTION. [02:10:02] >> ACTUALLY GOING BACK, I LED THAT TWO YEARS AGO, GOING BACK TO PREVENTION. THAT'S WHY LAST BOARD AND THIS BOARD ARE PUSHING MONEY INTO PREVENTION. WHAT I'M SAYING IS EITHER WE'RE ALL IN AT PREVENTION, AND THIS IS A SLIPPERY SLOPE BECAUSE NOW WE'RE GOING BACKWARD, SAYING, WE'RE GOING TO CONDONE SOME OF THIS. AGAIN, I JUST FEEL STRONGLY THAT THESE VENDING MACHINES, KIDS HAVE ACCESS TO THEM. WHEN SOMEONE SAYS, AND I APPRECIATE YOUR PRESENTATION THAT THE SUBSTANCE USE COALITION IS GOING TO OVERSEE THEM. OH, WELL, THANK GOODNESS, FOR THE SUBSTANCE USE COALITION, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE SITTING ON A STOOL RIGHT NEXT TO IT, MAKING SURE WHO'S USING IT. IT'S UNFETTERED ACCESS, AND THAT'S NOT OKAY. SUPERVISOR PLUMMER. THAT'S OKAY IF I LOSE THE VOTE. I JUST HAVE TO EXPRESS HOW I FEEL. >> I THINK THAT THE WAY TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM IS TO INVEST ALONG THE FULL CONTINUUM. WE INVESTED $4 MILLION OR POTENTIALLY INVESTED $4 MILLION IN PREVENTION COMPARED TO 90,000 IN HARM REDUCTION ON THIS SIDE OF IT. TO ME, THAT'S AN APPROPRIATE BALANCE. WE HAVEN'T INVESTED SIGNIFICANTLY IN TREATMENT, THOUGH, ASIDE FROM FROM THE OPIOID SETTLEMENT DOLLARS. BUT IF WE'RE GOING TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM, WE NEED TO ADDRESS IT AT EACH STAGE. I, FOR ONE, WOULD SAY, WELL, ONE, IN TERMS OF THE LOCATIONS, IT'S NOT LIKE THIS IS SOMEWHERE RANDOM ON THE STREET. THESE ARE AT HEALTH CENTERS, AT THE JAIL, AT THE GOOD NEWS RESCUE MISSION. THESE ARE AT PLACES THAT ARE ALREADY PEOPLE ARE ACCESSING FOR HEALTH-RELATED BENEFITS. I WOULD SAY THAT I WOULD, IN TERMS OF KIDS ACCESSING IT, I WOULD PREFER THAT MY DAUGHTERS HAVE ACCESS TO THIS AND ARE ABLE TO ACCESS IT SO THAT THEY CAN SAVE SOMEONE IN THAT SITUATION THAN FOR THEM NOT TO BE ABLE TO OR NOT TO KNOW OR NOT TO HAVE A CAR AND DRIVE DOWN TO COUNTY PUBLIC HEALTH, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY TEENAGERS ARE RANDOMLY MAKING THEIR WAY DOWN TO THE PUBLIC HEALTH. I'LL LEAVE IT LIKE THAT. >> WOULD YOU BE IN FAVOR THEN? WHY DON'T EACH OF US TAKE A PALETTE, DO OUR OWN, NOT TOWN HALL, BUT IN OUR OWN DISTRICTS, HAVE A MASSIVE EVENT, WHERE WE'VE GOT A PALETTE OF THIS STUFF EACH, AND WE HAND THIS OUT AND DO A BIG PUBLIC AWARENESS ABOUT, HEY, THIS IS HOW YOU DO IT. AS A FAMILY, THIS IS THE CONVERSATIONS WE SHOULD HAVE AROUND THE DINNER TABLE. THIS IS HOW IT'S ACCESSED, AND THEN REALLY DO SOMETHING, 'CAUSE IT'S EASY FOR US TO SIT UP HERE AND PASS SOMETHING ON CONSENT. THAT SAYS, WELL, WE DON'T HAVE TO DO THE WORK, BECAUSE WHEN WE MAKE THIS VOTE, AND IT GOES OUT THERE, I GUARANTEE YOU NO ONE'S GOING TO CARE LIKE YOU, OR NO ONE'S GOING TO CARE LIKE ME. OR MAYBE NO ONE CARES LIKE THE OTHER THREE. BUT I'LL TELL YOU, THERE'S WORK THAT WE CAN PUT BEHIND IT. IF WE WANT TO SIT UP HERE, MAKE A VOTE, THEN WE'RE WASTING OUR TIME. IT'S THE SAME REASON OLESTRA AND FAT PILLS AND ALL THE OTHER STUFF WHEN IT COMES TO THE OBESITY EPIDEMIC AND ONSET OF DIABETES, WHY IT JUST KEEPS GOING BECAUSE IT DOESN'T GET SOLVED. WE CAN SOLVE IT, OR WE CAN MAKE HUGE STRIDES AS IT RELATES TO KIDS IN THIS COUNTY, IF THE FIVE OF US GET OFF OUR BUTT, GIVE A DAY TO IT, GET OUR SOCIAL MEDIA BEHIND IT AND GET PEOPLE TO COME PICK IT UP. BUT IF WE'RE GOING TO SLAP IT IN A VENDING MACHINE, THAT'S A BAND AID MAT. SUPERVISOR PLUMMER. >> WELL, I WOULD BE TOTALLY FOR DOING THAT AND, I HAVE HOSTED EVENTS ON THIS TOPIC, INCLUDING A TOWN HALL LAST YEAR ABOUT THIS TOPIC AND INVITED MANY TO PARTICIPATE AND WOULD BE HAPPY TO GO FURTHER. AT THE SAME TIME, WE BOTH KNOW THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE PEOPLE WHO WON'T COME TO A PUBLIC EVENT AND COME UP TO YOU AND GRAB THAT BOX OF NARCAN, WHO WOULD NEED THIS, WHO ARE GOING TO FEEL ONLY COMFORTABLE GOING TO A VENDING MACHINE WHERE THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE UNDER THE PUBLIC EYE, ESPECIALLY IN FRONT OF A PUBLIC SUPERVISOR AND GETTING ACCESS TO IT. THOSE ARE PROBABLY THE PEOPLE WHO NEED IT THE MOST, AND SO I THINK IT'S BOTH END. >> I THINK THE PEOPLE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, THOUGH, IS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FAMILIES. THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THE PERSON THAT'S 35-YEARS-OLD THAT'S USED FOR YEARS AND STILL MAY NEED THAT. I THINK THERE'S STILL A PLACE. I THINK THAT ONCE YOU HIT, I'M NOT GOING TO SAY 18. I'LL SAY 24-28 WHEN THE BRAIN IS FULLY DEVELOPED. FINE. THEY CAN MAKE THAT DECISION THEN. I'M TALKING ABOUT KIDS AND FAMILIES. THAT'S, LISTEN. WE BEAT THIS UP. WE CAN TAKE THE VOTE. I JUST FEEL STRONGLY ABOUT IT. THIS WILL BE ONE OF THOSE TOPICS I WANT TO LOOK BACK ON IN TWO OR FOUR YEARS AND SEE WHAT COMES OF IT. ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR DR. MO? NO. WAS THERE ANY OTHER MOTION? WE'RE GOOD? WE HAVE A MOTION BY SUPERVISOR. WAS IT LONG? >> PLUMMER. >> PLUMMER, TO ACCEPT SUPERVISOR LONG. >> SECONDED BY SUPERVISOR KELSTROM. >> SUPERVISOR KELSTROM. >> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? >> AYE. >> OPPOSE MYSELF, 4:1 PASSES. THANK YOU GUYS. >> CAN I JUST CONFIRM SUPERVISOR HARMON'S VOTE? I DIDN'T SEE HOW HE VOTED. DID YOU VOTE YES OR NO? >> I WAS ACTUALLY GOING TO ABSTAIN. I CAN'T FEEL COMFORTABLE EITHER WAY. >> WE HAVE AN ABSTENTION. YOU NEED MORE INFORMATION, IS THAT WHAT IT IS? >> I JUST CAN'T. I GET BOTH SIDES, AND IT'S VERY HARD. >> IT'S A FOUR FIFTHS. I'LL TELL YOU WHAT. I WANT YOU TO BE ABLE TO MAKE A DECISION. IF YOU'RE GOING TO ABSTAIN TODAY, I'VE ABSTAINED BEFORE I THINK OTHERS HAVE, AS WELL. [02:15:03] THE TIME TO BRING COUNCIL LARMOR, DOES IT THE VOTE ALREADY GONE NOW? >> YOU VOTED NOW, THE ONLY POSSIBILITY WOULD BE A MOTION TO RECONSIDER. A MOTION TO RECONSIDER HAS TO BE MADE BY SOMEBODY IN THE MAJORITY. >> I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION. >> I'LL SECOND IT. >> WE HAVE A MOTION BY SUPERVISOR KELSTROM. DOES THAT MEAN WE BRING IT BACK? WE TALK ABOUT IT MORE NOW HERE? >> THE MOTION TO RECONSIDER OPENS THE ITEM, AND YOU CAN HAVE DISCUSSIONS AND MAKE NEW MOTIONS. >> I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE BRING IT BACK. >> I HAVE A QUESTION FOR COUNCIL. WHY DOES THIS REQUIRE A FOUR FIFTHS VOTE, IF WE'RE NOT MAKING ANY AMENDMENT TO THE BUDGET TO FUND THIS? >> IT IS A BUDGET AMENDMENT. >> IT IS A BUDGET AMENDMENT. >> OKAY. >> STAFF REPORT. >> I THOUGHT YOU JUST MADE A MOTION, AND I SECONDED IT. >> I DID BRING IT BACK. >> BRING IT BACK. >> I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR. >> SUPERVISOR KELSTROM MADE A MOTION TO OPEN IT TO RECONSIDER NOW AND TALK ABOUT IT NOW. I MADE A MOTION. >> DO WE VOTE ON THAT BY THE WAY? >> SORRY. I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND INTERRUPT REAL QUICK. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO RECONSIDER, BUT WE HAVE NOT TAKEN THAT VOTE YET. >> YOU DON'T HAVE A SECOND IF IT'S FROM SUPERVISOR HARMON. IT HAS TO COME FROM HIM. >> I'LL SECOND HIM. >> WE HAVE A MOTION TO RECONSIDER BY SUPERVISOR KELSTROM, SECONDED BY SUPERVISOR PLUMMER. WE'LL TAKE THAT VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? >> AYE [OVERLAPPING] >> AYE. PASSES 5:0. WELL, BEFORE I MAKE MY MOTION, HERE'S A DEAL, CORKEY-LIKE, I'M NOT SAYING THE OTHER THREE INDIVIDUALS DON'T HAVE AN OPINION ON IT. BUT, WE BOTH KNOW, I HAVE LOST VERY CLOSE LOVED ONES TO DRUG ABUSE. I'M NOT SAYING THE OTHERS HAVEN'T 'CAUSE I DON'T KNOW. BUT IF YOU WANT TO BRING THIS BACK, I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE CAN BRING THIS BACK OR IF YOU WANT MORE INFORMATION. MY WHOLE THING WITH THIS IS I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THE DOLLAR AMOUNT. I'M NOT OPPOSED TO EVEN HANDING OUT NARCAN, I'M OPPOSED TO HAVING HIGH SCHOOLERS, JUNIOR HIGHERS BE ABLE TO RUN UP AND HAVE ACCESS TO THIS STUFF ON THEIR OWN. THE SHERIFF'S COMMENT SUBSTANTIATED THAT FOR ME. HE'S LIKE, WELL, THOSE COULD BE THE ONES. I THINK THE MESSAGE OF HOW WE APPROACH YOUTH DRUG ADDICTION IS COMPLETELY JANKY. IF WE DON'T EVER SHIFT THE PARADIGM, WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE AS A COUNTRY THE WAY WE'RE GOING. >> WELL, I NEVER WAS COMFORTABLE WITH THE ANSWERS, AND MAYBE IT'S JUST BECAUSE I'M NOT QUITE GETTING WHERE THESE VENDING MACHINES ARE AT. LET'S SAY THAT A VENDING MACHINE'S AT THE HIGH SCHOOL, AND IT'S UNDER SOME SUPERVISION OR SOMETHING WHERE I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THEM HAVING ACCESS. IT'S JUST ACCESS WITHOUT SUPERVISION. IT'S GOING TO GET ABUSED SOME WAY. I CAN ALMOST BE CERTAIN OF THAT. I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THE FACT THAT WE NEED IT AVAILABLE IN SOME WAY AND GET IT TO THEM. >> I JUST DON'T THINK A VENDING MACHINE'S THE BEST WAY. >> SUPERVISOR HARMON, THESE ARE GOING TO BE LOCATED. THE SHASTA COMMUNITY HEALTH CENTER HAS SEVERAL LOCATIONS. THEY'LL BE LOCATED THERE. IT'S LIKE IMAGINE YOU'RE GOING TO YOUR DOCTOR, AND THEN YOU GO VISIT YOUR DOCTOR AND AT THAT PREMISE IN THE SAME PLACE, YOU CAN THEN ACCESS THAT, AND THEN THE JAIL, WHICH IS NOT UNFETTERED ACCESS. >> AT THE JAIL? >> THE GOOD NEWS RESCUE MISSION, WHERE WE KNOW THAT THERE IS AN OVERALL ENVIRONMENT THAT IS PUSHING PEOPLE TOWARDS RECOVERY, TOWARDS TREATMENT. THIS IS GOING TO BE IN THAT CONTEXT. IT'S NOT JUST PLACING IT OUT THERE FOR PEOPLE TO ACCESS THIS. THESE ARE BEING PUT IN STRATEGIC LOCATIONS, BOTH WHERE THERE ARE HIGH RATES OF OPIOID OVERDOSE DEATHS IN OUR COUNTY AND WHERE IT MAKES SENSE WHERE YOU'RE CONNECTED TO EITHER A SERVICE PROVIDER OR A MEDICAL PROVIDER. >> IT'S MONEY THAT FUNDS A BROKEN SYSTEM, A BROKEN METHODOLOGY. BUT AGAIN, LISTEN. >> HOW LONG IS THE CONTRACT FOR ONE YEAR OR WHAT ARE WE COMMITTED TO? FOR THE VENDING MACHINES? >> THREE YEARS. >> THREE YEARS. >> CORKEY. >> I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE JUST BRING THIS BACK. >> CAN I JUST OFFER ONE MORE THING FOR CORKEY TO CONSIDER? YOU LOOK AT THE VENUES WHERE THESE MACHINES WILL BE ACCESSIBLE. THE JAIL. USUALLY, KIDS ARE NOT RUNNING AROUND THERE UNATTENDED, AND THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE FINDING THAT, IT'S NOT LIKE IN A SHOPPING CENTER. THE MISSION. AGAIN, IT'S NOT THE FAMILIES WITH CHILDREN ARE OUT IN THE BACK BUILDING. [02:20:04] IT'S NOT GOING TO BE GENERALLY ACCESSIBLE FOR KIDS THAT ARE GOING TO GO TO THAT AS THEIR CHOICE TO WALK IN THROUGH THE DOORS AND FIND THEIR ACCESS THERE. IF YOU LOOK AT ALL THE LOCATIONS, PUBLIC HEALTH, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE JUST KIDS RUNNING IN FROM THE STREETS. IT'S NOT LIKE IN A SHOPPING CENTER AT A GAS STATION OR ANY OF THOSE VENUES. IT'S PRETTY MUCH PLACES WHERE KIDS ARE NOT GOING TO BE GOING ON THEIR OWN AND THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE UNATTENDED. >> YOU'VE BEEN TO ALL THOSE LOCATIONS, SUPERVISOR LONG? HAVE YOU BEEN TO ALL THE LOCATIONS THAT YOU JUST SPOKE OF? >> NO, I HAVE NOT. >> THEN YOU JUST MADE A STATEMENT ABOUT WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE AND YOU HAVEN'T EVEN BEEN THERE. >> CORKEY. >> THAT IS THE EXACT REASON THAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. PEOPLE UP HERE ARE TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING THEY HAVE NO CONCEPT OF. >> TIME OUT. KEVIN? >> I'M READY TO VOTE. >> CHAIR. TIME OUT. HAVE YOU ALREADY MADE YOUR DECISION, CORKEY? >> WE HAD A MOTION TO BRING IT BACK TO RECONSIDER. WE BROUGHT IT BACK. I MADE A MOTION THAT WE COULD BRING THIS BACK, OR CORKEY YOU JUST TELL ME, LIKE, WHAT DO YOU WANT. IT'S UP TO YOU. WE BRING THIS BACK OR WE CAN VOTE NOW? >> NO, LET'S GO TO VOTE. >> WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THE VOTE AGAIN. WE'LL START TO MY LEFT WITH SUPERVISOR LONG. >> JUST FOR CLARIFICATION. [OVERLAPPING]. >> YOU NEED TO TAKE A NEW MOTION. >> SUPERVISOR PLUMMER, YOU MAKE YOUR MOTION AGAIN FOR THE ORIGINAL? >> I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. >> I'LL SECOND. >> SECOND BY SUPERVISOR KELSTROM. WE'LL START TO MY LEFT WITH SUPERVISOR LONG. >> ONE MOMENT, CHAIR. SUPERVISOR LONG. >> THIS IS TO APPROVE BRINGING IT BACK OR IS THIS TO APPROVE? >> NO. THIS IS TO APPROVE THE ITEM. >> WE'RE BACK TO THE ITEM? YES. >> YES. >> SORRY. I'M GOING TO GO A LITTLE SLOW, JUST BECAUSE I'M TAKING NOTES AS I'M DOING THIS. SUPERVISOR KELSTROM? >> YES. >> SUPERVISOR GRAY? >> HARD NO. >> SUPERVISOR HARMON? >> YES. >> SUPERVISOR PLUMMER? >> YES. >> PASSES 4:1. [APPLAUSE] THANK YOU, GUYS. MOVING ON. WE'RE GOING TO R5. CHRISTY, COME ON UP. [R5 Take the following actions: (1) Receive a presentation from the Health and Human Services Agency (HHSA) on the state of HHSA’s budget and the plans for cost-saving measures; (2) approve an extension to the General Fund loan through December 31, 2025; and (3) approve a budget amendment which allows for a second 10 percent (10%) realignment transfer from Public Health Budget (BU 411) to the Social Services Administration Budget (BU 501) in the amount of $1,168,825.] >> CHRISTY COLEMAN. >> WELCOME. >> GOOD MORNING, CHAIR CRYE, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, AARON WATTS, BRANCH DIRECTOR OF HHSA ADMINISTRATION. AS PROMISED, I'M HERE WITH AGENCY DIRECTOR CHRISTY COLEMAN TO PROVIDE A FINANCIAL UPDATE, AS WELL AS PROVIDE PLANNING FOR COST-SAVING EFFORTS CURRENTLY UNDERWAY IN HHSA THAT WILL HAVE AN IMPACT ON THE SOCIAL SERVICES FUND. EARLIER THIS YEAR, HHSA WAS APPROVED TO USE GENERAL FUND TEMPORARILY UP TO $10.5 MILLION TO COVER NEGATIVE CASH WITHIN THE SOCIAL SERVICES FUND THROUGH JUNE 30. ON JUNE 24, 2025, HHSA REQUESTED AN EXTENSION TO THE GENERAL FUND LOAN THROUGH OCTOBER 31, 2025, AND REDUCED THE REQUESTED AMOUNT TO $5 MILLION AS WE HAD NOT EXCEEDED THAT AMOUNT IN NEGATIVE CASH IN THE PRECEDING MONTHS. OUR INTENTION WAS TO RESOLVE THE CASH ISSUE BY OCTOBER 31, 2025, DUE TO HISTORICALLY HIGH REVENUE IN SEPTEMBER AND OCTOBER. ON SEPTEMBER 9, 2025, HHSA ALERTED THE BOARD THAT WE WERE NOT ABLE TO STAY WITHIN THE $5 MILLION NEGATIVE CASH ALLOWANCE AND REQUESTED AN INCREASE TO $7 MILLION, WHICH THE BOARD APPROVED WITH DIRECTION TO RETURN IN THE FUTURE, WITH THE PLAN TO REDUCE SPENDING IN THE SOCIAL SERVICES FUND BY $1 MILLION PER MONTH. FOR THE PURPOSES OF TODAY'S PRESENTATION, I WANTED TO SPEND A LITTLE BIT OF TIME SHARING SOME DATA. THIS GRAPH REPRESENTS THE GROWTH OF REVENUE AND EXPENDITURES IN THE SOCIAL SERVICES FUND FOR THE PERIOD OF FISCAL YEAR 2017 THROUGH FISCAL YEAR 2025. PLEASE NOTE THAT FISCAL YEAR 2025 NUMBERS ARE NOT YET FINAL DUE TO THE COUNTY'S ACCRUAL PROCESS, BUT THIS IS CLOSE TO HOW WE EXPECT TO CLOSE THE YEAR. >> HERE YOU CAN SEE THAT FOR SEVERAL YEARS, REVENUE EXCEEDED EXPENDITURES, WHICH RESULTED IN STRONG GROWTH IN SOCIAL SERVICES FUND, AND SUBSEQUENTLY A HEALTHY FUND BALANCE AND CASH FLOW. IN 2021, THERE WAS A $6.8 MILLION SURPLUS, WHICH GREW THE SOCIAL SERVICES FUND BALANCE TO OVER $30 MILLION. IN 2022, REVENUE SLIGHTLY EXCEEDED EXPENDITURES, BUT IN 2023, WE START TO SEE A SIGNIFICANT SHIFT IN TRENDS. EXPENDITURES EXCEEDED REVENUE BY ABOUT $9.4 MILLION, AND WE SAW SIMILAR TRENDS IN 2025 AS WELL. IT IS NOTABLE THAT WHILE THE SOCIAL SERVICES ADMINISTRATION EXPENDITURES OR BUDGET UNIT 501 HAVE INCREASED AND DID HAVE A DEFICIT IN FISCAL YEAR 2023 AND 2025, THE BULK OF THE DEFICIT HAVE OCCURRED IN THE WELFARE CASH AID PAYMENTS BUDGET OR BUDGET UNIT 501. WITH THE TOTAL DEFICIT OF ABOUT $18 MILLION FROM FISCAL YEAR 2021 TO FISCAL YEAR 2025. FOR THE SAME PERIOD, SOCIAL SERVICES ADMINISTRATION BUDGET 501 HAD A SURPLUS OF $5.9 MILLION. THE NEXT TWO SLIDES, I'LL TOUCH ON TWO AREAS THAT HAVE [02:25:02] INCREASED SIGNIFICANTLY IN THE WELFARE CASH AID PAYMENTS BUDGET. THOSE ARE EBT CLAIMS AND THE COST OF THE IHSS MAINTENANCE OF EFFORT. BEFORE WE DIVE INTO THAT, I WANT TO REITERATE THAT THESE ARE INCREASES THAT ARE INDICATIVE OF AN INCREASED NEED IN OUR COMMUNITY. THE 501 BUDGET IS ALMOST ENTIRELY MADE UP OF ENTITLEMENT PROGRAMS, MEANING THAT THOSE WHO APPLY AND ARE ELIGIBLE ARE ENTITLED TO RECEIVE THESE SERVICES FROM THE COUNTY. THESE TWO AREAS IN PARTICULAR, HAVE EXPERIENCED SIGNIFICANT GROWTH IN THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS, WHICH HAS CONTRIBUTED TO THE OVERALL HEALTH OF THE SOCIAL SERVICES FUND. EBT CLAIMS ARE THE PUBLIC ASSISTANCE COSTS PAID DIRECTLY TO CLIENTS, WHICH SAW MASSIVE GROWTH IN THE LAST FEW YEARS. IN FISCAL YEAR 2021, THE COST WAS AROUND $14 MILLION ANNUALLY. IN 2025, WE SAW THIS NUMBER SWELL TO JUST OVER $20 MILLION. THIS INCREASE IS DUE NOT ONLY TO INCREASING CASE LOAD SIZES, BUT ALSO BENEFIT AMOUNT INCREASES. FOR EXAMPLE, IN 2017, THE MAXIMUM CASH AID PAYMENT FOR A FAMILY OF FOUR WAS JUST UNDER $900 PER MONTH. IT IS NOW NEARLY $1,500 PER MONTH. OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS, WE HAVE ALSO SEEN CASELOAD GROWTH IN THE CALWORKS PROGRAM BY ABOUT 11.3%. THIS INCREASE IN COST AND CASELOAD GROWTH ALLOWS US THE ABILITY TO TRANSFER AN ADDITIONAL 10% FROM PUBLIC HEALTH REALIGNMENT TO SOCIAL SERVICES WITH BOARD APPROVAL, WHICH WILL BE DISCUSSED IN GREATER DETAIL IN A FUTURE SLIDE. THIS IS AN AREA WHERE WE HAVE NO CONTROL AND MUST ISSUE BENEFITS BASED ON NEED AND ELIGIBILITY. THE IHSS MAINTENANCE OF EFFORT OR MLE IS THE COUNTY'S SHARE OF COST FOR IHSS PROVIDERS, AND HAS AN ANNUAL INFLATION INCREASE OF 4%, AS WELL AS INCREASES OVER THE YEARS DUE TO WAGE SUPPLEMENT INCREASES. WHILE THE COUNTY IS ONLY RESPONSIBLE FOR ABOUT 17.5% OF THE OVERALL COST, IT IS STILL A SIGNIFICANT EXPENDITURE. IN THE LAST 10 YEARS, WE HAVE SEEN THE ANNUAL COST DOUBLE. OVER THE YEARS, WE HAVE ALSO SEEN STEADY INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF IHSS PROVIDERS, AS WELL AS THE NUMBER OF IHSS HOURS. IN CALENDAR YEAR 2019, TOTAL APPROVED HOURS WERE AROUND 4.2 MILLION HOURS AND THERE ARE AROUND 3,200 PROVIDERS. IN CALENDAR YEAR 2024, THERE WERE NEARLY SIX MILLION APPROVED HOURS AND AN AVERAGE OF 4,150 PROVIDERS. I'VE MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY THAT EXPENDITURES ARE OUTPACING REVENUES. ONE THING I WANT TO POINT OUT IS THE REVENUES WILL INCREASE AS COSTS INCREASE DUE TO HIGHER CLAIMS, THE COUNTY SHARE OF COST ALSO INCREASES. WE COVER OUR SHARE OF COSTS THROUGH REALIGNMENT AND GENERAL FUND CONTRIBUTIONS. AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, THE GROWTH TRENDS OF REALIGNMENT DO NOT MATCH THE GROWTH WE SEE IN EXPENDITURES. IT'S NOTABLE THAT FROM 2021 TO 2025, THERE'S ONLY BEEN ABOUT A 7% INCREASE IN REALIGNMENT REVENUE. FOR THE SAME TIME, THERE'S BEEN ABOUT A 27% INCREASE IN EXPENDITURES. AS A REMINDER, REALIGNMENT IS FUNDED THROUGH VEHICLE LICENSE FEES AND SALES TAX REVENUE. ADDITIONALLY, THE HEALTH OF THIS REVENUE IS TIED TO THE HEALTH OF THE ECONOMY. OVERALL, IN THE LAST THREE FISCAL YEARS, THERE HAS BEEN ABOUT A $19 MILLION DEFICIT IN SOCIAL SERVICES, WHICH HAS GREATLY IMPACTED THE OVERALL HEALTH OF THE SOCIAL SERVICES FUND, AND IS THE PRIMARY REASON WHY WE ARE HERE TODAY. I WILL TURN IT OVER NOW TO AGENCY DIRECTOR CHRISTY COLEMAN TO SHARE ABOUT COST SAVING MEASURES BEING IMPLEMENTED ACROSS THE AGENCY AND NEXT STEPS. >> GOOD MORNING BOARD. AS AT SEPTEMBER 9TH MEETING, THE BOARD APPROVED DIRECTION TO RETURN IN OCTOBER WITH PLANS TO SAVE ABOUT A MILLION DOLLARS PER MONTH. AS AN AGENCY, WE BEGAN EARLY COST SAVING EFFORTS TO REDUCE OUR GENERAL EXPENSES, SUCH AS OFFICE SUPPLIES, TRAVEL AND CONFERENCES BACK TO MARCH OF 2025. AGENCY WIDE, WE ARE WORKING TOGETHER TO MAKE SURE WE ARE USING WHAT WE HAVE ON HAND BEFORE WE ARE BUYING MORE AND ENSURING THAT SUPPLIES ARE ORDERED FOR WHAT IS NEEDED, AND NOT FOR WHAT IS WANTED. IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE SEPTEMBER 9TH BOARD MEETING, WE IMPLEMENTED A SOFT HIRING FREEZE AGENCY WIDE. THIS EQUATES TO APPROXIMATELY ABOUT FIVE MILLION DOLLARS IN ANNUAL SAVINGS IN THE SOCIAL SERVICES FUND. WE HAVE WORKED WITH SUPPORT SERVICES TO IDENTIFY POSITIONS THAT ARE APPROVED TO FILL AND ARE HOLDING OTHER POSITIONS. THOUGH AGENCY LEADERSHIP CAN MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO FILL POSITIONS ON AN AS NEEDED BASIS, WE ARE HAVING INTERNAL [NOISE] DISCUSSIONS ON EACH VACANCY TO ENSURE WE HAVE ADEQUATE STAFFING TO MAINTAIN SERVICES AT THE CURRENT LEVEL. WE ARE SHIFTING TWO POSITIONS FROM HHSA ADMINISTRATION TO MENTAL HEALTH MANAGED CARE COMPLIANCE TO FILL A NEED IN THAT AREA, [02:30:04] WHICH WILL EQUATE TO APPROXIMATELY 261 IN ANNUAL SAVINGS. IN ADDITION, WE'LL BE SHIFTING LEADERSHIP COSTS TO THE MENTAL HEALTH BUDGET TO ACCOUNT FOR TIME SPENT DOING MENTAL HEALTH RELATED ACTIVITIES, SUCH AS MY TIME SPENT WORKING AS THE MENTAL HEALTH DIRECTOR. THIS WILL BE ABOUT $320,000 IN ANNUAL SAVINGS. ALSO IN THE HHSA ADMINISTRATION BUDGET, WE ARE REDUCING PROFESSIONAL SERVICES BY APPROXIMATELY $500,000 IN ANNUAL SAVINGS AND REDUCING ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS BY APPLYING THE SOCIAL SERVICES UNIT BY APPROXIMATELY A MILLION DOLLARS. POTENTIALLY UP TO $2 MILLION IN ANNUAL SAVINGS, THOUGH ADDITIONAL ANALYSIS IS NEEDED TO ENSURE THE COSTS ARE SPREAD APPROPRIATELY ACROSS THE AGENCY. AGENCY LEADERSHIP AND COLLABORATION WITH THE ASSET MANAGEMENT TEAM AND THE COS OFFICE ARE ANALYZING AREAS WHERE WE CAN REDUCE LEASE COSTS BY CONSOLIDATING WORK AND STORAGE SPACE. WE ARE ESTIMATING AN ANNUAL SAVINGS CONSERVATIVELY AT AROUND $200,000. THIS PLANNING WILL GO INTO NEXT FISCAL YEAR. WE ARE PLANNING FOR A SECOND 10% REALIGNMENT TRANSFER FROM PUBLIC HEALTH TO SOCIAL SERVICES, AND WE'LL EXPLAIN IN GREATER DETAIL ON THE NEXT SLIDE. EVALUATION OF THE COUNTY EXPENSE CLAIM AND CA 800 ASSISTANCE CLAIM FOR ADDITIONAL ADJUSTMENTS, ESTIMATES APPROXIMATELY $2-3 MILLION ACCORDING TO EARLY ANALYSIS OF THE 2025 CLAIM. MOSTLY DUE TO OVER UTILIZING ALLOCATIONS, THAT COULD BE SPREAD TO OTHER ALLOCATIONS. WE PLAN TO BRING A BUDGET AMENDMENT BACK IN DECEMBER TO FURTHER REDUCE BUDGET AUTHORITY IN OFFICE EXPENSES, TRAVEL AND PROFESSIONAL SERVICES, IN THE SOCIAL SERVICES AND HHSA ADMINISTRATION BUDGETS. WE ARE REVIEWING CONTRACT TERMS AND REDUCING WHERE APPROPRIATE, WHICH WE ANTICIPATE WILL REALIZE SIGNIFICANT SAVINGS. REDUCING SURPLUS TECHNOLOGY EQUIPMENT TO REDUCE IT SUPPORT COSTS. THROUGH AN ANALYSIS DONE BY STAFF, WE DETERMINED THAT WE COULD RETIRE ABOUT 23 PCS FOR AN APPROXIMATE ANNUAL SAVINGS OF $100,000. WE ARE EVALUATING FACILITY MANAGEMENT PROJECTS AND SEEKING LOWER COST OPTIONS OR THE DELAY OF PROJECTS THAT DO NOT HAVE AN ASSOCIATED SAFETY RISK. COST SAVING EFFORTS IN THESE AREAS WILL BE ONGOING AND THE TOTAL SAVINGS TO BE DETERMINED. AS MENTIONED IN THE PREVIOUS SLIDE, WE WILL NOW DISCUSS THE PUBLIC HEALTH REALIGNMENT TRANSFER. WELFARE AND INSTITUTION CODE ALLOWS FOR REALIGNMENT REVENUE TO BE TRANSFERRED BETWEEN SUB ACCOUNTS NOT TO EXCEED 10%. AN ADDITIONAL 10% CAN BE TRANSFERRED BETWEEN SUB ACCOUNTS WHEN MANDATED CASELOADS HAVE INCREASED. CALFRESH AND CALWORKS CASELOADS HAVE INCREASED BY 11.3% AND 14.3% RESPECTIVELY SINCE 2023. AN INITIAL 10% TRANSFER WAS INCLUDED IN THE 26 ADOPTED BUDGET. TODAY, WE ARE REQUESTING THE BOARD'S APPROVAL FOR THE SECOND 10% TRANSFER FROM PUBLIC HEALTH AND SOCIAL SERVICES IN THE AMOUNT OF $1,168,825. >> AGAIN >> I SAW THE MIC WENT OFF. I WANT TO NOTE THAT PUBLIC HEALTH HAD A REVENUE SURPLUS OF $1.2 MILLION IN FISCAL YEAR 25 AND CAN SUPPORT THE ADDITIONAL TRANSFER. LOOKING FORWARD. I WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT TO RECOGNIZE OUR STAFF WHO HAVE COME FORWARD WITH MANY EXCELLENT IDEAS FOR COST SAVING MEASURES THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY REVIEWING. IN ADDITION TO THE COST SAVING MEASURES THAT WE HAVE PREVIOUSLY SHARED. WE HAVE READ THROUGH EACH AND EVERY SUGGESTION. SEVERAL IDEAS ARE CURRENTLY IN THE WORKS. WE CONTINUE TO RECEIVE EXCELLENT IDEAS FROM STAFF, MANY OF WHICH ARE ON A SMALLER SCALE, BUT ALL COMBINED COULD RESULT IN A SUBSTANTIAL SAVINGS. STAFF ARE ENCOURAGED TO CONTINUE TO SHARE THEIR IDEAS FOR COST SAVING MEASURES. AS THE BOARD IS AWARE, WE ARE WORKING WITH TWO CONSULTANTS, BOTH FORMER HHSA BRANCH DIRECTORS, TO ASSIST IN BUDGET ANALYSIS AND FISCAL TRAININGS. EARLIER THIS YEAR, THEY PRESENTED A TRAINING WORKSHOP TO OUR FISCAL LEADERS AND EXPANDED CABINET TEAM. WE ARE EXCITED TO WELCOME THE CONSULTANTS BACK TO PRESENT A PRE BUDGET TRAINING TO OUR FISCAL LEADS AND PROGRAM MANAGERS. THIS WILL FOCUS ON BUDGETING PRINCIPLES, APPROPRIATE USES OF FUND BALANCE, AND REINFORCE THAT CURRENT APPROPRIATIONS SHOULD ALIGN WITH CURRENT REVENUE, RATHER THAN RELIANCE ON ACCUMULATED FUND BALANCE RESERVES. IN ADDITION TO THE BUDGET AMENDMENT WE'LL BE BRINGING FORWARD IN DECEMBER. WE'VE ALSO SET EXPECTATIONS FOR EXPENDITURES TO BE IN LINE WITH BUDGETED REVENUE. IN OTHER WORDS, NO USE OF FUND BALANCE, BUT THE EXCEPTION OF THE WELFARE AND CACHE AID BUDGET, WHICH WE HAVE LIMITED CONTROL OVER. WE ARE ALSO CLOSELY MONITORING THE STATUS OF HR1, WHICH POTENTIALLY WILL RESULT IN HIGHER STATE SHARE OF COSTS, [02:35:02] WHICH WE ANTICIPATE WILL BE PASSED ONTO COUNTIES. THOUGH THE FEDERAL BUDGET HAS NOT BEEN PASSED YET, THE CALIFORNIA WELFARE DIRECTOR ASSOCIATION, CWDA, HAS PROVIDED SOME EARLY PROJECTIONS FOR AN ADDITIONAL 7% INCREASE TO THE COUNTY SHARE OF COST, WHICH MAY EQUATE TO A STATE WIDE AMOUNT OF UP TO $13 BILLION. ADDITIONALLY, THERE ARE NEW REQUIREMENTS FOR A STATE SHARE OF COSTS BASED ON THE ERROR RATE FOR THE STATE. THIS COULD MEAN THAT THE COST IS PASSED ON TO COUNTIES FOR AN ADDITIONAL 5-10% MORE INCREASE TO THE COUNTY SHARE OF COST. THIS COULD MEAN THAT BY FISCAL YEAR 28, WE CAN HAVE AN ADDITIONAL 17% OF THE COUNTY SHARE OF COST. THOUGH METHODOLOGY FOR PASSING THESE COSTS ON TO COUNTIES HAS NOT BEEN RELEASED. BASED ON THE COUNTY'S CURRENT SHARE OF COST, WE CAN CONSERVATIVELY ESTIMATE A 7% INCREASE IN ANNUAL COSTS WOULD BE ABOUT TWO MILLION DOLLARS, AND A 17% COST WOULD BE ABOUT FIVE MILLION DOLLARS. WHILE WE ARE LOOKING FOR COST SAVING OPPORTUNITIES WITHIN OUR EXISTING LEASE SPACE, WE ARE ALSO LOOKING TO THE FUTURE TO DETERMINE IF THERE ARE MORE COST EFFECTIVE SPACE OPTIONS. OVERALL, THE PLANS WE HAVE CONSERVATIVELY FOR APPROXIMATELY $10 MILLION IN ANNUAL SAVINGS, AND A FEW OTHER AREAS WE ARE EXPLORING THAT MAY ALLOW FOR THE ADDITIONAL TWO MILLION DOLLARS IN SAVINGS. THIS INCLUDES EVALUATING EXISTING CONTRACTS TO REDUCE COST. IN CLOSING TODAY, WE ARE REQUESTING THE BOARD APPROVAL FOR A BUDGET AMENDMENT THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR THE TRANSFER OF THE ADDITIONAL 10% IN PUBLIC HEALTH REALIGNMENT TO SOCIAL SERVICES AND AN EXTENSION TO THE GENERAL FUND LOAN THROUGH DECEMBER 31, 2025. THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION, AND WE'RE HERE FOR QUESTIONS. >> [INAUDIBLE] >> THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION AND ALL THE INFORMATION. I SPOKE AT LENGTH WITH ERIN YESTERDAY, SO I APPRECIATE ALL THE INFORMATION YOU GAVE ME. I'LL FOCUS IN ON A COUPLE OF THINGS. YOU HAD SAID THAT THE SOFT HIRING FREEZE COMBINED EVERYTHING WOULD BE ABOUT A FIVE MILLION DOLLAR SAVINGS. THEN YOU SAID SOMETHING JUST A MINUTE AGO ABOUT IT COULD BE UP TO 10 MILLION AGGREGATE. I'M NOT SURE WHERE THE EXTRA FIVE MILLION WOULD BE FROM. >> IN THE COST SAVING MEASURES SLIDE, I WENT THROUGH A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT POTENTIAL ANNUAL SAVINGS FOR THAT. IF YOU ADD ALL THAT STUFF UP TOGETHER, IT'S ABOUT $10 MILLION. >> WE'D HAVE FIVE FROM THE SOFT HIRING FREEZE AND FIVE FROM ALL THE STUFF THAT YOU HAD THE SLIDE. ONE OF MY QUESTIONS WOULD BE, WHEN DO YOU ANTICIPATE WE WOULD GET AHEAD OF THIS IN THE SENSE THAT HHSA SAID WE WOULD NOT HAVE ANY COME BACK TO THE BOARD FOR GENERAL FUND LOANS. WHEN WOULD THAT TIMELINE LOOK LIKE? >> [INAUDIBLE] HAVE A LOT OF ANALYSIS ON THIS. I'M GOING TO LET HER TAKE THAT. >> I DON'T KNOW THAT I HAVE A SPECIFIC TIMELINE YET AT THIS POINT. I WILL SAY, DO ANTICIPATE NOW WITH THE LONG TERM NATURE THAT WE'VE SEEN THIS PROBLEM CARRY ON. I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A QUICK RESOLUTION. SUPERVISOR PLUMMER POSED A GREAT QUESTION TO KRISTINE AND I THE OTHER DAY REGARDING, WHAT NUMBER WOULD WE FEEL COMFORTABLE AT GETTING TO? THAT'S WHAT I'VE HAD IN MIND. I WOULD SAY, IF WE COULD GET OUR CASH FLOW UP TO ABOUT $6-10 MILLION, I THINK WE WOULD BE VERY COMFORTABLE WITH THAT. I THINK THESE COST SAVING MEASURES, PUT US IN A GOOD SPOT TO START WORKING IN THAT DIRECTION. BUT I DO ANTICIPATE THAT THIS WILL BE GOING ON. WHERE WE STARTED THIS WAS DUE TO THE IHSS MOE INVOICE THAT WE GET THAT COVERS THE FIRST SEVEN MONTHS OF THE YEAR, AND THAT'S A VERY SIZABLE INVOICE, AND THAT WILL COME UP AGAIN IN FEBRUARY. DO I THINK WE WILL HAVE ENOUGH CASH FLOW TO SUPPORT THAT IN FEBRUARY? I WORRY ABOUT THAT. I WANT TO BE REALISTIC AND TRANSPARENT, BUT THAT IS GOING TO COME AND WE ARE GOING TO BE POSITIONED SIMILARLY AS WE WERE LAST YEAR. >> THANK YOU FOR THAT INFORMATION. THEN ALSO THE TRANSFER OF ANOTHER A MILLION-DOLLAR 168 FROM PUBLIC HEALTH TO SOCIAL SERVICES TO SUPPORT THEIR BUDGET. THE PUBLIC HEALTH BALANCE IS ABOUT EIGHT AND HALF MILLION AND HAD BEEN MAYBE ABOUT 10 MILLION. NOW WE'RE GOING TO REDUCE THAT DOWN TO SEVEN MILLION. WHAT I TALKED TO YOU YESTERDAY, WHICH I APPRECIATED KNOWING IS, IT WOULD NOT AFFECT ANY PUBLIC HEALTH PROGRAMS. WE'RE NOT GOING TO LOSE ANYTHING. BUT IS THE ORGANIZATION COMFORTABLE WITH REDUCING THAT GENERAL FUND BALANCE FROM THE PUBLIC HEALTH AND MENTAL HEALTH, [02:40:04] THEY'RE DOWN TO ABOUT FIVE MILLION OR FOUR. IF THOSE NUMBERS SOUND RIGHT, I MAY NOT BE RIGHT ON THOSE, BUT. >> I DON'T HAVE THE PUBLIC HEALTH NUMBERS RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME, BUT THE REASON WHY WE'RE JUSTIFYING THIS IS BECAUSE IN FISCAL YEAR 2025, WE ACTUALLY ADDED TO THE PUBLIC HEALTH FUND BALANCE. THAT WE DO FEEL COMFORTABLE. I SAY FROM A FINANCE PERSPECTIVE, I FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THAT. I'LL LET KRISTIE SPEAK FROM THE AGENCY PERSPECTIVE. >> NO, I DO AGREE. IT WAS 1.2 THAT THEY ADDED BACK TO FUND BALANCE. IF WE TRANSFER 1.1 OF THAT TO SOCIAL SERVICES, THAT STILL ADDED BACK A LITTLE BIT TO THE PUBLIC HEALTH FUND BALANCE FOR LAST YEAR. >> THEN WE ALSO HAD THE FIRST ONE, WHICH WAS A MILLION SOMETHING, FROM PUBLIC HEALTH TO SOCIAL? >> CORRECT, THE INITIAL ONE? >> THE INITIAL ONE. WE'RE TALKING TWO MILLION IN TRANSFER, AND WE GOT BACK A MILLION. [OVERLAPPING] >> WE DID. THAT WAS IN OUR INITIAL BUDGET WHEN WE DID OUR BUDGET PRESENTATION IN JUNE. >> FOR THE FIRST ONE BECAUSE YOU'RE ASKING THIS TIME FOR THE SECOND ONE. THE MILLION. IT SOUNDS IT WILL NOT AFFECT ANY PROGRAMS, MENTAL HEALTH PROGRAMS OR PUBLIC HEALTH PROGRAMS, AND IT'S YOUR PREROGATIVE AS THE DIRECTOR TO MOVE FUNDS AROUND AS YOU SEE FIT AND THE 10% RULE. >> THAT IS IN THE STATE STATUTE TO SUPPORT THE PROGRAMS THAT ARE INCREASING, WHERE WE'RE NOT GETTING THE REALIGNMENT REVENUE INCREASING AS WELL TO SUPPORT THE PROGRAMS. WHEN YOU HAVE THE MANDATED PROGRAMS THAT CONTINUE TO INCREASE, AND WE DON'T HAVE AN OPTION TO REDUCE THOSE SERVICES, WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING TO BE ABLE TO SHIFT THE FUNDING AROUND THAT WE DO RECEIVE. THAT'S WHY IT'S IN STATE STATUTE THAT WE CAN'T DO THAT. >> I APPRECIATE THAT. THEN I APPRECIATE THE FACT OF 10 MORE MILLION DOLLAR COMING IN THROUGH SALARY SAVINGS AND AND OTHER STUFF. >> THAT WILL EVENTUALLY MAYBE GET US AHEAD OF THIS NEED FOR ALWAYS COMING UP SHORT IN SOCIAL SERVICES. >> IT WILL DEFINITELY MAKE AN IMPACT. WE'RE NOT QUITE SURE THE TOTALITY OF HOW BIG OF THE IMPACT IT WILL BE, BECAUSE ALSO LOOKING AHEAD AT NEXT YEAR, WHEN THAT 7% INCREASE TO THE COUNTY SHARE COMES IN, THAT COULD BE A SIGNIFICANT COST TO THE COUNTY SHARE. THAT'S COUNTY SHARES, THAT'S MADE UP OF REALIGNMENT AND GENERAL FUND IS WHAT THE COUNTY SHARE IS CONSIDERED. WE HAVE TO KEEP THAT IN MIND GOING INTO NEXT BUDGET SEASON TWO WE WILL HAVE THE ADDITIONAL 10% OR 7% PLUS IT COULD BE AN ADDITIONAL 10% ON TOP OF THAT GOING INTO FISCAL YEAR 28. >> GREAT. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, S ROGER LONG. S ROGER PLUMBER. >> YES, THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK ON THIS, BOTH THE ANALYSIS AND THE COST CUTTING MEASURES. I THINK THAT IN TWO YEARS, WE'LL LOOK BACK ON THIS AND BE LIKE, THAT WAS WHERE WE PREVENTED SOMETHING REALLY SIGNIFICANTLY BAD FROM HAPPENING. I APPRECIATE YOU ALL GETTING AHEAD OF IT AND THE WORK THAT YOU'VE INVESTED IN IT. A FEW SPECIFIC QUESTIONS. ONE IS, IN TERMS OF THE TRANSFER FROM PUBLIC HEALTH, IS TO THE MAX, OR ARE YOU ALLOWED TO DO MORE OR LESS? >> IT'S 10% IS THE MAX, AND SO THAT IS THE MAX THAT WE CAN DO. YOU CAN DO THE INITIAL PLUS THE ADDITIONAL, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE DOING. >> GREAT. THEN, GIVEN THAT YOU'RE PROJECTING A POTENTIAL INCREASE OF 17%, ON A BUDGET THAT IS ALREADY STRUGGLING TO SUSTAIN ITSELF, I KNOW THAT YOU ALL ARE DOING THIS ANALYSIS ON TOP OF TRYING TO JUST RUN EVERYDAY OPERATIONS, AND I KNOW YOU HAVE TWO FOLKS WHO ARE DOING SOME TRAINING. AARON, YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU HAVE AN EXTRA HELP STAFF WHO'S WORKING ON THE COUNTY CLEAN PIECE. I KNOW THERE'S ADDITIONAL HELP THERE. I GUESS WHAT I'M WONDERING IS AS WE LOOK TOWARDS THE NEXT BUDGET YEAR, DOES IT MAKE SENSE TO INVEST IN ADDITIONAL OUTSIDE HELP TO TRY TO EITHER LOOK FOR ADDITIONAL SAVINGS THAT WILL MAKE UP HELP US STAND ON TRACK FOR THE 17% POTENTIAL INCREASE. I MEAN, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE THINK WOULD BE BENEFICIAL TO BE TALKING ABOUT OVER THE NEXT FEW MONTHS, OR DO WE FEEL GOOD ABOUT THE TIME THAT YOU'RE ABLE TO ALLOCATE TO IT? >> I WOULD SAY FOR RIGHT NOW, I FEEL GOOD ABOUT THE RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE INVESTED IN THIS. THE ONE PIECE THAT I ALSO DIDN'T INCLUDE IN THIS PRESENTATION IS WE ALSO HAVE A LOT OF SUPPORT COMING FROM THE CAO'S OFFICE. THEY ACTUALLY HAVE AN ANALYST OVER THERE WHO USED TO BE ON OUR TEAM AND USED TO DO THIS CLAIM. WE HAVE SPENT QUITE A BIT OF TIME PUTTING OUR HEADS TOGETHER. WE HAVE ANOTHER MEETING NEXT WEEK, AND I EXPECT THAT THAT WILL BE AN ONGOING EFFORT THAT WE'RE ALL COMING TOGETHER ON THIS, KNOWING THAT THIS IS SUCH A BIG IMPACT ON THE COUNTY. THAT'S NOT TO SAY THAT IF WE DON'T FIND LIKE THE RIGHT PERSON OR THE RIGHT RESOURCE THAT WE WOULDN'T WANT TO TAP INTO THAT. THAT'S HOW WE CAME ACROSS THIS EXTRA HELP SUPERVISOR IS THAT HE DID COME FROM ANOTHER COUNTY. HE RETIRED AND EXPRESSED SOME INTEREST IN, CONTINUING HIS WORK. [02:45:03] WE HAD THAT OPPORTUNITY AND WE TOOK IT. IF SOMETHING ELSE LIKE THAT WERE TO COME ALONG, IT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN LOOKING INTO. >> THANKS. ONE LAST THING. THE THING THAT STILL HAS ME A LITTLE CONCERNED, AND I KNOW WE'VE GONE BACK AND FORTH ON THIS, AND THAT YOU'RE LOOKING INTO HOW TO POTENTIALLY ADDRESS THIS IS THAT WHEN I THINK ABOUT GRANTING A LOAN, FOR EXAMPLE, I WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO SAY, HERE'S HOW MUCH WE PROJECT TO RECEIVE IN CASH COMING IN OVER THE NEXT FEW MONTHS. HERE'S HOW MUCH WE PROJECT TO SPEND OVER THE NEXT FEW MONTHS. ON THAT BASIS, YEAH, WE THINK THAT BY DECEMBER 31, WE WILL HAVE $5 MILLION IN THE BANK, OR WE'LL BE STILL AT NEGATIVE 2.5 OR WHATEVER THAT MIGHT BE. I KNOW THAT IS A LITTLE TRICKY TO GET TO BASED ON A VARIETY OF FACTORS. BUT I DO THINK THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING, PARTICULARLY IF WE'RE TRYING TO PUT A TIMELINE ON WHEN THE LOAN WILL BE PAID BACK AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS, THAT TYPE OF ANALYSIS WOULD BE HELPFUL IN THE FUTURE SO THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY SAY, WELL, IT MAKES SENSE TO PUT THIS AT DECEMBER 31 VERSUS JANUARY OR FEBRUARY OR MARCH OR ANOTHER TIME FRAME. >> THE REASON I PUT IT AT DECEMBER 31 IS I THINK AT THIS POINT IT'S WISE FOR US TO CONTINUE TO COME BACK EVERY FEW MONTHS TO LET THE BOARD KNOW WHERE WE'RE AT WITH THIS PROJECT AND LET THE PUBLIC KNOW WHERE WE'RE AT. I DO AGREE WITH YOU, AND I THINK THE NEXT STEP OF OUR ANALYSIS WILL BE TO TAKE THOSE NUMBERS THAT WE HAVE ANTICIPATED FOR COST SAVINGS AND START PLUGGING THOSE INTO THE BUDGET. SOME OF THEM WILL TAKE A LITTLE BIT LONGER TO IMPLEMENT. YOU KNOW, LIKE THE RENTAL, YOU KNOW PIECE, LIKE IT TAKES TIME TO CONSOLIDATE SPACE AND TOT OUT OF LEASES. SO THAT MIGHT NOT BE SOMETHING THAT WE SEE RIGHT AWAY. SALARY SAVINGS, WE WILL START SEEING IMMEDIATELY. THE SECOND YOU'RE NOT PAYING FOR A VACANT POSITION, YOU'RE SAVING THAT MONEY. WE LOOK AT IT THROUGH THAT LENS AS OUR NEXT STEP. >> GREAT. WELL, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS, AND I WOULD ASK THAT WHEN THIS COMES BACK BEFORE CAUSE I AGREE WITH YOU THAT JUST REGULAR UPDATES ON THIS IS HELPFUL. I WOULD ASK THAT WHEN YOU COME BACK IN DECEMBER, THAT THERE ARE WHAT I'LL CALL CASH FLOW PROJECTIONS FOR THE TIME PERIOD FROM DECEMBER 31 OR WHENEVER THAT BOARD MEETING IS THROUGH THE NEXT DEADLINE FOR THE GRANT. >> I'LL SECOND. IS A MOTION CONTINGENT ON THAT, OR IS IT TWO SEPARATE ONES? BECAUSE I MEAN, APPROVING THIS, I I'M IN FOR. THE OTHER PART, I'M NOT SURE HOW MUCH EXTRA WHATEVER THAT'S GOING TO BE [OVERLAPPING] >> I WOULD JUST SAY WE'LL BE WORKING ON OUR MID YEAR BUDGET. >> YOU GUYS DO THAT ANYWAY. >> YEAH, WE DO THAT IN LA, SO WE WILL BE ACTIVELY WORKING ON THAT. >> I MEAN, I MEAN, I THINK IN THE SAME WAY THAT LAST TIME WE ASKED FOR THE BUDGET CUTS, WHICH THEY SHARED TODAY, AND I THINK THAT WAS REALLY VALUABLE TO BOTH HAVE SEEN AND HAVE DONE THAT SEEING THOSE PROJECTIONS LAID OUT OF SAYING. >> PUBLIC COMMENT, SEVAN? >> YES, CHAIR. WE HAVE FOUR SPEAKERS. FIRST UP, SHAWNA STRATTON, FOLLOWED BY DON DUCKETT, STEVE KAHN, AND M BONGARDS. SHAWN. NO SEEING SHAWNA. NEXT UP, STEVE KAHN, FOLLOWED BY BONARDS. [INAUDIBLE] >> I MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT. GOOD MORNING, AGAIN, BOARD. COUPLE OF THINGS. NUMBER 1 IS, I KNOW HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES HAS LOST MANY KEY PEOPLE OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS AND HAVE HIRED SOME PEOPLE BACK, BUT AGAIN, THEY'RE IN TRAINING, A LOT OF THEM. WITH THESE ADDITIONAL FREEZES AND OR CUTS, I WOULD JUST WANT TO BE ASSURED THAT IN THE GRANTS THAT WE HAVE ALREADY RECEIVED, THAT WE CAN PERFORM IN A WAY THAT WE NEED TO IN ORDER TO JUST TO SUPPORT RECEIVING THOSE GRANTS. I WOULD HOPE THAT WE HAVE ENOUGH STAFF TO CONTINUE TO APPLY FOR EVERY GRANT POSSIBLE. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO KNOW THAT AT LEAST IN THE WAY THAT WE ARE HIRING PEOPLE OR THE PEOPLE WE HAVE, THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO PURSUE AS MANY GRANTS AS POSSIBLE. THAT'S ALL. >> BONARTS. >> THANK YOU AGAIN, BOARD. [02:50:02] I WAS LOOKING AT THE ANNUAL BUDGET, AND I SAW THAT STAFF SOCIAL SERVICES STAFF, THEIR BUDGET, THEIR SALARY BUDGET HAS INCREASED BY $2 MILLION, AND I KNOW THAT THERE HAVE BEEN PROMOTIONS AND RAISES WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT. I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT THE MENTAL HEALTH BUDGET, 65% OF IT ALREADY GOES TO STAFFING. THEN WE JUST HAD AN APPROVAL ON AN ITEM TODAY WHERE THE PROGRAM ITSELF, I FORGOT THE NAME OF IT AGAIN. THAT PROGRAM, BASICALLY, IT SUPPORTS MORE STAFF. IT'S $1 MILLION THAT WAS JUST APPROVED THIS MORNING. WHAT WAS IT NORCAL ANYWAY. THAT PROGRAM WAS JUST APPROVED THIS MORNING, AND THAT'S $1 MILLION, AND THAT GOES TOWARDS STAFFING. I JUST SEE WHERE THESE MENTAL HEALTH PROGRAMS, AND THAT'S I CAN'T PRETEND, LIKE I KNOW ABOUT PUBLIC HEALTH AND THAT SIDE OF IT, BUT I DO KNOW MENTAL HEALTH. IT LOOKS LIKE A LOT OF THESE PROGRAMS ARE GOING TO SUPPORT STAFF AND AS FAR AS ACTUALLY PROVIDING COMMUNITY SERVICES, THERE'S NOT NEARLY AS MUCH OF THAT. SIXTY FIVE, AGAIN, GOES TOWARDS STAFFING. NOW WE JUST HAD AN INCREASE IN THAT. THEN WHEN WE LOOK AT, I WAS LOOKING AT YOUR CHART AS FAR AS THE DIP IN INCOME. I JUST I KNOW YOU GUYS AREN'T GOING TO LIKE ME FOR SAYING THIS, BUT I COULD NOT HELP BUT NOTICE IN 2023 IS WHEN THE DIP OCCURRED. I GOT TO SAY, MY DAUGHTER WAS TAKEN FROM ME BY SOCIAL SERVICES IN OCTOBER OF 2023. SHE IS 15-YEARS-OLD. THAT MEANS THAT SHE IS GOING TO BE RECEIVING MONEY FOR THIS COUNTY FOR THE NEXT SEVEN YEARS. >> IS THIS ON R5? >> YES. I'M ACTUALLY, YES, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BUDGET. I'M TALKING ABOUT HOW SOCIAL SERVICES, WHEN THEY ARE LOW ON THEIR BUDGET, THEY CAN GO COLLECT MORE CHILDREN, AND THAT BRINGS IN MONEY FOR YEARS TO COME. ANYWAY, I JUST FIND IT VERY GROSS THAT 65% ALREADY GOES TOWARD SALARY, AND NOW WE'RE GOING TO GIVE THEM MORE TOWARD SALARY. WE'RE LACKING SERVICES FOR OUR COMMUNITY. >> THAT WAS OUR LAST SPEAKER, CHAIR. >> WE HAVE A MOTION BY SUPERVISOR PLUMBER, SECONDED BY SUPERVISOR LONG CEO RECORD. >> THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN, CRAY. I JUST WANT TO REACH OUT AND THANK CHRISTINE HER STAFF FOR THE TREMENDOUS EFFORT IN PUTTING THIS INFORMATION TOGETHER. HHSA IS A VERY LARGE AND COMPLEX ORGANIZATION. THERE ARE A LOT OF MOVING PARTS, AND THIS IS JUST A FIRST STEP IN THIS LONG EFFORT TO EFFICIENTLY PROVIDE SERVICES FOR OUR CONSTITUENTS WHILE MAXIMIZING PROGRAM BENEFITS. I JUST WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE ALL THE HARD WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE IN THE COOPERATION WE'VE RECEIVED FROM THAT OFFICE. >> THANK YOU. IS THERE ANY OTHER BOARD DISCUSSION? WE'LL GO AHEAD AND TAKE THAT VOTE. WE'LL DO IT ALL AT ONCE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? >> AYE. >> PASSES THIS 5 VOTES. IT WAS A FOUR FIFTHS VOTE. MOVING ON TO R6. PUBLIC WORKS. [R6 Take the following actions to consider vacating a public road and utility easement for Lone Oak Way and relinquished access rights along Gas Point Road (“Easement and Access Rights”) located in the Cottonwood area, specifically identified in the attached Legal Description: (1) Conduct a public hearing; (2) adopt a resolution which: (a) finds the Easement and Access Rights not necessary for current or future use; (b) orders the vacation of the relinquishment of access rights to Gas Point Road (County Road No. 1H01B), private road right-of-way, and public utility easement for Lone Oak Way in the unincorporated area of Shasta County; and (c) directs staff to record a certified copy of the resolution; and (3) accept an Offer of Dedication for relinquishment of access rights along Gas Point Road.] IS THAT GOING TO BE SAYS BRANDON. DON'T KNOW, BECAUSE STEPHANIE, WASN'T LIKE SHE WASN'T TOO FOR TWO GOING IN. >> SORRY, I JUST WANT TO GET THE MAP PULLED UP SO WE CAN THE EXHIBIT FOR YOU. MORNING CHAIR. >> LET ME KNOW WHEN YOU'RE READY SO I CAN MAKE SURE IT'S WORKING. IS IT UP ON YOUR SCREEN? >> IT IS. [NOISE] >> EVERYTHING RECORDS. GOOD UP THERE? CHAIR CR, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, BRANDON MAGBEE SHASTA COUNTY RIGHTWAY REAL PROPERTY AND RIGHT AWAY AGENT. BEFORE YOU TODAY IS AN ABANDONMENT ALONG GAS POINTE ROAD. THIS IS IN CONNECTION WITH THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT WITH TRI COUNTY'S BANK FOR PROPERTY OUT THERE ON GAS POINTE ROAD. THE PETITION IS TO ABANDON WHAT WAS PREVIOUSLY DEDICATED AS A CUL DE SAC NAMED LONE OAK WAY, [02:55:05] AND AND ABANDON THE ACTUAL ACCESS RIGHTS TO THE EXISTING DRIVEWAY THAT THEY HAVE CURRENTLY OUT THERE THAT ACCESS THE PROPERTY. WE WOULD BE ABANDONING THE PRIVATE ROAD, PUBLIC UTILITY EASEMENT FOR THE CUL DE SAC AND ABANDONING THE ACCESS RIGHTS, WHICH WOULD GIVE THE PROPERTY OWNER THE RIGHT TO ACCESS THE PROPERTY OF WHERE THE EXISTING DRIVEWAY IS. CURRENTLY, WHEN THE WHEN THE PARCEL MAP WAS RECORDED, THEY RELINQUISH THOSE ACCESS RIGHTS TO MOVE THE ACCESS POINT, EAST TO WHERE THE CUL DE SAC IS, AND THAT IS NO LONGER NEEDED. THAT'S WHAT THE ABANDONMENT IS FOR. IF THE BOARD WAS TO APPROVE THIS, THERE IS ALSO AN OFFER DEDICATION WHERE THEY DEDICATE THE ACCESS RIGHTS WHERE THAT CUL DE SAC IF IT IS TO BE ABANDONED WHERE THAT CUL DE SAC WAS. THAT WOULD REMAIN THAT THE ONLY ACCESS POINT ALONG THE FRONTAGE OF GAS POINTE ROAD WOULD BE 100 FOOT WIDTH FOR WHERE THE CURRENT DRIVEWAY IS. THAT IS MY PRESENTATION, IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS? >> MISS BLANKENSHIP. I KNOW IT'S A HEARING, BUT YOU'RE IN Q. >> ANYMORE. >> I'M TELLING YOU WHAT. >> I'D JUST LIKE TO KEEP YOU ON RECORD. >> THIS IS PERFECT. MANY THINGS. WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. MISS BLANKENSHIP IS ALL ANY CORRESPONDENCE ON FILE WITH THE CLERK OF THE BOARD. >> WHY, YES, CHAIR. >> WHY, YES. DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC SPEAKERS? >> WE DO. WE HAVE ONE REQUEST TO SPEAK. PATRICK HENSLEY? >> HEDGE AND HIS BETS. WITH THAT, WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. ALRIGHT. BRING IT BACK FOR BOARD DISCUSSION, SUPERVISOR KELSTROM. >> I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. >> I WILL SECOND ANY OTHER DISCUSSION APPEAR. NOPE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR AYE. >> AYE. >> PASSES 5-0. THANK YOU. NOW WE'RE HOLD ON 1 SECOND. WE ARE GOING TO RECESS AS THE SHASTA COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, [CLOSED SESSION ANNOUNCEMENT] AND WE ARE GOING TO RECONVENE AS THE IN HOME SUPPORT SERVICES PUBLIC AUTHORITY. MOVING ON TO THAT AGENDA, MISS BLANKENSHIP, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? >> NO, CHAIR. WE DO NOT. >> WE HAVE TWO ITEMS. ITEM C1 AND C2. >> I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA. >> WE HAVE A MOTION BY SUPERVISOR PLUMBER TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA, SECONDED BY SUPERVISOR KELSTROM. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. >> AYE. >> AYE, 5-0. THE BOARD DOES NOT GET ANY ADDITIONAL COMPENSATION FOR THIS. MAKE SURE I MADE THAT CLEAR. WE'RE GOING TO ADJOURN AS IHSS, AND WE'RE GOING TO RECONVENE AS THE SHASTA COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS. WITH THAT, MISS BLANKENSHIP, MOVING ON TO CLOSED SESSION, ITEMS R7 AND R8, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? >> WE DO NOT, CHAIR. >> WE DO NOT DOWN THE HOME STRETCH, THEY COME. WE ARE GOING TO RECESS FOR APPROXIMATELY? WHAT IS THE ESTIMATION ON THIS? >> ON HOUR. >> ONE HOUR. WE WILL NOT BE BACK BEFORE 12:30. YES. THAT'S RIGHT. SUPERVISOR LONG AND KELSTROM TO THE RESCUE. WE WILL NOT BE BACK BEFORE 12:30. WE ARE AT RECESS. ALL RIGHT, GUYS. HEY, DOWNSTAIRS. I DO JUST WANT TO YES. >> MISS BLANKENSHIP. THERE WE GO. YOU DO HAVE TO CLEAR THE BOARD CHAMBERS. PLEASE GRAB YOUR BELONGINGS AND MAKE YOUR WAY OUTSIDE THE DOORS, AND WE WILL OPEN THEM UP NO SOONER THAN 12:30 FOR WHEN WE REPORT OUT. THANK YOU. YOU'RE COMING. RETURNING FROM CLOSED SESSION, [REPORT OF CLOSED SESSION ACTIONS] COUNSEL ARMOR IS ANY REPORTABLE ACTION? >> MR. CHAIRMAN, ITEMS R7, R8, WERE HEARD IN CLOSED SESSION, AND THERE IS NO REPORTABLE ACTION. >> THANK YOU, MISS BLINGENH. EVERYTHING BEEN ADDRESSED. RECORD? >> NOTHING HERE, MR. CHAIRMAN. >> WE ARE ADJOURNED. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.