Aug 19, 2025 Board of Supervisors Regular Meeting

>> GOOD MORNING.

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THE TIME IS 9:01 A.M. WE HAVE ALL BOARD MEMBERS PRESENT ALONG WITH CEO DAVE RICKERT, COUNTY COUNSEL JOE LARR FROM THE CLERK OF THE BOARD, STEPHANIE BLANKENSHIP, MIRANDA ANGEL, AND IN THE FOYER, KRISTEN GOLDING SMITH.

WE ENCOURAGE THOSE WISHING TO PARTICIPATE IN PUBLIC COMMENT.

FOLLOW TO SPEAKER REQUEST CARD, SUBMIT TO THE CLERK IN THE FOYER.

SPEAKER REQUEST CARDS MUST BE SUBMITTED TO THE CLERK BEFORE PUBLIC COMMENT FOR EACH REGULAR ITEM BEGINS.

WITH THAT, I'LL TURN THINGS OVER TO MS. BLANKENSHIP.

>> THANK YOU. THROUGH THE CHAIR, I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND EVERYONE IN ATTENDANCE TODAY OF THE BOARD ROOM RULES OF ORDER AS OUTLINED IN ADMINISTRATIVE POLICY 1-101.

THOSE CAN BE FOUND ONLINE THROUGH THE PICK OF THE BOARD'S WEBSITE.

THIS POLICY INCLUDES SIGNAGE RESTRICTIONS, ATTENDEE SEATING AND OVERALL CONDUCT TO ENSURE BUSINESS IS DONE IN AN ORDERLY FASHION AND THAT ALL HAVE AN EQUAL OPPORTUNITY TO BOTH OBSERVE AND PARTICIPATE.

UNLESS ADDRESSING THE BOARD, ALL THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE SHALL REMAIN SEATED IN THE CHAIRS PROVIDED.

STANDING ALONG THE BACK WALL OF THE BOARDROOM IS ACCEPTABLE SO LONG AS NO PERSON BLOCKS THE INGRESS OR EGRESS.

MEMBERS OF THE MEDIA WHO WANT TO OBSERVE, RECORD, OR OTHERWISE DOCUMENT AT BORDER SUPERVISORS MEETING ARE REQUESTED TO SET UP EQUIPMENT FROM THE DESIGNATED AREA ALONG THE SOUTH WINDOWS.

SHASTA COUNTY REMAINS COMMITTED TO CONDUCTING BUSINESS IN A PROFESSIONAL AND ACCESSIBLE ENVIRONMENT FOR ANYONE WISHING TO PARTICIPATE, ATTEND, OR OTHERWISE ENGAGE WITH THE SHASTA COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.

WE KINDLY ASK THAT ALL ATTENDEES ADHERE TO THESE RULES.

WITH THAT, I DO HAVE QUITE A FEW ANNOUNCEMENTS CONCERNING TODAY'S AGENDA.

REGARDING ITEMS ON THE REGULAR CALENDAR, THE PRESENTATION POWERPOINT FOR THE HEALTHCARE CONSULTANT CHRISS STREET HAS BEEN UPDATED IN THE AGENDA PACKET AS OF LATE YESTERDAY AFTERNOON.

PRINTED COPIES OF THAT PRESENTATION ARE AVAILABLE TODAY FOR THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC IN THE CUBBIES AT THE BACK OF THE BOARD CHAMBERS.

ADDITIONALLY, I WANT TO CLARIFY THAT SOME INFORMATION WHICH WAS INCLUDED IN THE DISCUSSION SECTION OF THE STAFF REPORT.

IN THE FIRST PARAGRAPH, IT REFERENCES THE BOARD APPROVED THE AGREEMENT WITH CONSULTANT ON FEBRUARY 21ST, 2025.

THE CORRECT INFORMATION, AS REFLECTED IN THE SECOND PARAGRAPH OF THE DISCUSSION SECTION IS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE BOARD ACTION TAKEN ON FEBRUARY 4TH, 2025, A PERSONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT WAS FULLY EXECUTED ON FEBRUARY 21ST, 2025.

GUARDING ITEM R5, THE LEASE WITH THE CITY OF READING FOR L LAND TO DEVELOP CUSTODY OPERATIONS IN SHASTA COUNTY, INCLUDES AN ADDRESS 7051 EAST SIDE ROAD.

THIS ADDRESS WILL BE OMITTED FROM THE REAL PROPERTY LEASE AGREEMENT AND WILL SOLELY BE IDENTIFIED BY ITS APN AS APN NUMBER 050-070-008.

REGARDING ITEM R7, THE SUBSTANCE USE PREVENTION AND EDUCATION AND YOUTH PROGRAM FUNDED BY THE OPIOID SETTLEMENT DOLLARS.

THE STAFF REPORT REFLECTS THAT ON MAY 13TH, 2027, THE BOARD APPROVED AGREEMENTS WITH YOUTH VIOLENCE PREVENTION COUNCIL OF SHASTA COUNTY, DBA, YOUTH OPTION SHASTA, AND SHASTA COUNTY CHILD ABUSE PREVENTION COORDINATING COUNCIL, DBA RAISING SHASTA FOR YOUTH SUBSTANCE USE EDUCATION AND PREVENTION SERVICES USING OPIATE SETTLEMENT DOLLARS.

PLEASE NOTE THAT THE CORRECT DATE IS ACTUALLY MAY 13TH, 2025.

REGARDING ITEMS ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR.

ITEM C-2, A RESOLUTION WHICH APPROVES THE CITY OF READINGS REQUEST THAT THE COUNTY CLERK PERFORM SERVICES FOR THE COUNTY TO CONDUCT A SPECIAL ELECTION ON NOVEMBER 4TH, 2025, HAS BEEN PULLED FROM CONSENT FOR DISCUSSION BY SUPERVISOR PLUMMER.

ITEM C4, AND EVERGREEN MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING WITH THE CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT OF SOCIAL SERVICES WAS AGENDIZED UNDER THE HHSA BEHAVIORAL HEALTH AND SOCIAL SERVICES BRANCH.

THE CORRECT BRANCH IS ECONOMIC MOBILITY, AND THAT IS REFLECTED ACCURATELY IN THE STAFF REPORT.

THOSE WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM C2, WHICH HAS BEEN PULLED FROM CONSENT FOR DISCUSSION SHOULD SUBMIT A SPEAKER REQUEST CARD SEPARATE FROM OTHERS TO THE CLERK IN THE FOYER BEFORE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THAT ITEM BEGINS.

WITH THAT CHAIR, I'LL TURN THINGS BACK OVER TO YOU.

>> THANK YOU, MS. BLINKING CHIP. BEFORE WE GET STARTED, I JUST WANTED TO ADD ONE MORE THING, AS YOU ALL WELL MAY HAVE NOTICED THAT THERE WAS A LAST MINUTE ADDITION TO THIS MORNING'S AGENDA THAT WENT OUT ON FRIDAY.

TYPICALLY, ITEMS THAT END UP ON OUR AGENDAS ARE IN PROCESS, AT LEAST THREE WEEKS, GIVE OR TAKE, IN ADVANCE OF THE ACTUAL MEETING DAY.

IN THIS CASE, AT MY REQUEST, AFTER CONSULTING WITH THE ROV AND SUPERVISOR PLUMMER, A NEW ITEM WAS CREATED AND ADDED IN SHORT ORDER TO TODAY'S AGENDA.

FOR THAT TO HAPPEN EMPLOYEES FROM WITHIN THE ELECTIONS DEPARTMENT, AS WELL AS THE AUDITOR CONTROLLER, NOD SHORTS OFFICE, COUNTY COUNCIL, THE COUNTY, ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICE, AND THE CLERK OF THE BOARD, ALL MUST COLLABORATE AND WIELD A VARIETY OF SYSTEMS TO PROPERLY VET AND ENSURE AND ITEMS ON THE AGENDA PRIOR TO THE LEGAL PUBLISHING DEADLINE.

I PERSONALLY WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO ALL OF YOU, ESPECIALLY, THE EMPLOYEES WITHIN ELECTIONS.

OF COURSE, NOLA AND HER TEAM, CEO'S OFFICE, PATRICK DALEY, AND STEPHANIE BLANKENSHIP, FOR THEIR WORK.

ADDING THAT ITEM TO THE AGENDA OFTENTIMES, MANY OF OUR EMPLOYEES DON'T GET THE RECOGNITION THAT THEY DESERVE, BUT I REALLY WANTED TO MAKE SURE IT WAS HIGHLIGHTED THE EFFORTS OF THOSE DEPARTMENTS, NO SPECIFIC PEOPLE TO MAKE THAT HAPPENING.

WITH THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE UP

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>> SHALL WE PRAY? GOD OF ALL CREATION, GRANT EACH OF US THIS MORNING THE WISDOM AND COURAGE TO KNOW AND DO WHAT IS RIGHT AND GOOD AND TRUE.

MAY THOSE GATHERED HERE SPEAK WHEN IT IS TIME TO SPEAK? LISTEN WITH PATIENCE AND OPENNESS WHEN IT IS TIME TO LISTEN.

MAY WE ALWAYS BE GRANTED BY THE SPIRIT OF COMMUNITY, BY THE SPIRIT OF JUSTICE, AND BY THE SPIRIT OF LOVE.

THIS MORNING, I ASK FOR WISDOM AND FOR STRENGTH FOR COURAGE TO DO WHAT IS RIGHT AND GOOD FOR EVERY PERSON.

HELP US TO PUT THE INTERESTS OF OTHERS ABOVE OUR OWN TO ACT WITH LOVE FOR THE COMMON GOOD, AND MAY WE BE KIND NEIGHBORS, RECOGNIZING YOUR IMAGE IN EVERY PERSON, THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST, WE PRAY AMEN.

>> PLEASE JOIN ME THE PLEDGE.

>> THANK YOU, PASTOR. THANK YOU, SUPERVISOR KELTROM.

BEFORE WE GET STARTED, I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE MOVE R1 BELOW R7.

WE MOVE PUBLIC COMMENT BELOW R7, AND WE REMOVE R3 TO A FUTURE MEETING.

>> I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECONDED BY SUPERVISOR KELSTROM.

MS. BLANKENSHIP. IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC? HAVE TO TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THAT?

>> MY APOLOGIES, TARE, I AM DEALING WITH SOME TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES.

CAN YOU REPEAT WHAT YOU'RE ASKING ME?

>> I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR FOR PROCESS SAKE.

DO WE HAVE TO TAKE OR DO WE NEED TO TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THIS MOTION I JUST MADE ABOUT REORGANIZING THE CALENDAR TODAY?

>> YOU DO NOT.

>> IS THERE ANY BOARD DISCUSSION? WE'LL GO AHEAD AND TAKE THAT VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR.

>> AYE. PASSES 5-0.

WITH THAT, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO R2.

[R2 Take the following actions: (1) Receive a presentation from healthcare consultant, Chriss Street; (2) consider findings regarding establishing a medical school and residency program; and (3) consider providing direction to staff (Sponsored by Supervisors Crye and Plummer).]

TO CONSIDER FINDINGS REGARDING ESTABLISHING A MEDICAL SCHOOL AND RESIDENCY PROGRAM, AND THREE, CONSIDER PROVIDING DIRECTION TO STAFF.

THIS IS SPONSORED BY MYSELF AND SUPERVISOR PLUMMER. WELCOME, MR. STREET.

>> GREAT. THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME AS YOUR HEALTHCARE CONSULTANT.

TODAY I'D LIKE TO PRESENT MY EXPERIENCE, MY FINDINGS, AND PERHAPS SOME RECOMMENDATIONS THAT MAKE SENSE TO SHASTA COUNTY.

FIRST OF ALL, I WAS HIRED TO IDENTIFY SHASTA COUNTY MEDICAL NEEDS AND PROVIDE SOLUTIONS FOR A LONG TERM SUSTAINABLE CAPITAL PLAN.

IT'S VERY WELL KNOWN IN SHASTA COUNTY THAT THERE'S A CHALLENGE FOR PRIMARY CARE PHYSICIANS, AND PRIMARY CARE PHYSICIANS ARE KEY TO HEALTH IN AMERICA.

THEY IDENTIFY ISSUES EARLY.

THEY DO EARLY INTERVENTIONS, AND THEY PREVENT EMERGENCY ROOM VISITS AND HIGHER COSTS.

WHEN I HAD THIS ASSIGNMENT, MY FIRST EFFORT WAS TO TRY TO UNDERSTAND THE COMMUNITY ACCEPTANCE OF WHAT THE RATIO WAS FOR PRIMARY CARE PHYSICIANS TO POPULATIONS.

THAT'S THE WAY IT'S EXPRESSED IN THE INDUSTRY.

THERE WAS A 2022 MEDICAL NEEDS ANALYSIS PRODUCED BY DIGNITY HEALTH, WHICH COMPLIED WITH OBAMA CARE, THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT AND STATE LAW.

THAT ANALYSIS SAID FOR EVERY HUNDRED THOUSAND POPULATION FOR DIGNITY SERVICE AREA, WHICH IS AROUND 210,000 PEOPLE, THAT THEY HAD 180 PRIMARY CARE PHYSICIANS PER 100,000.

THAT WOULD HAVE MEANT SHASTA COUNTY WITH SAY, 180,000 PEOPLE WOULD HAVE HAD SOMEWHERE AROUND OVER 300 PRIMARY CARE PHYSICIANS.

THAT'S A BIG NUMBER BECAUSE IT'S 23% HIGHER THAN THE CALIFORNIA AVERAGE, AND I'M FROM NEWPORT BEACH, AND IN NEWPORT BEACH, THAT WOULD BE A HIGHER NUMBER THAN NEWPORT BEACH.

IT SEEMED LIKE THERE WAS SOME ISSUES AND TO GET A NUMBER ON THIS COMPARISON, AT THE TIME, THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA WAS 1,270 PER PRIMARY CARE PHYSICIAN AVERAGE ACROSS THE STATE, AND SHASTA COUNTY WAS CLOCKING IN AT 554 FOR EVERY PRIMARY CARE PHYSICIAN, A TRULY EXTRAORDINARY NUMBER.

THAT'S MORE EXTRAORDINARY WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE COUNTY'S AGE ADJUSTED DEATH,

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OVERALL, THERE'S A 53% HIGHER AGE A PROBABILITY OF DEATH IN SHASTA COUNTY THAN THE STATE AVERAGE.

TRY TO LOOK AT THE HISTORY OF THIS, THERE WAS AN ORGANIZATION, HANK, WHICH IS A REGIONAL ORGANIZATION ALLIANCE IN NORTHERN CALIFORNIA THAT JOINED WITH SHARK, OUR LOCAL ORGANIZATION, THE SHASTA HEALTH ASSESSMENT AND REDESIGN COLLABORATIVE IN JULY OF 2016 TO TRY TO REALLY UNDERSTAND THE PHYSICIAN WORKFORCE ASSESSMENT, AND SET A DIRECTORY.

IN THAT DIRECTORY, SHARK AND HANK FOUND THAT THERE WERE 132 PRIMARY CARE PHYSICIANS IN SHASTA COUNTY AND THEY ALSO IDENTIFIED THAT YOU WERE NOW IN A SITUATION WITH AFFORDABLE CARE ACT, THAT THERE WAS GOING TO BE A LOT OF PRESSURE ON PRIMARY CARE PHYSICIANS, AND THE EXPANSION CREATED AN INCREASED DEMAND, AND THEY WANTED TO MONITOR AND BE AWARE OF CHANGES AND PERHAPS SET SOME IDEAS AND TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE.

PART OF THE STUDY AT THE TIME FOUND THAT CALIFORNIA AVERAGE FOR RETIREMENT FOR PRIMARY CARE PHYSICIANS FOR ALL PHYSICIANS IS AGE 63, 51% OF SHASTA COUNTY PHYSICIANS WE'RE OVER AGE 55, 38% WERE OVER AGE 60, AND THAT COMPARES TO 31% OVER AGE 60 IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA.

SHARK IDENTIFIED THAT ABOUT 20% OF THE PHYSICIANS OVER AGE 56 WOULD BE RETIRING IN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS SO THAT BASICALLY SAID ABOUT 12:14.

WHEN YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THE 2019 STUDY THAT DIGNITY HEALTH HAD PRODUCED, THEY FOUND THAT THE PRIMARY CARE PHYSICIAN RATIO IN SHASTA COUNTY WAS ONE FOR EVERY 1,410 VERSUS CALIFORNIA FOR ONE FOR EVERY 1,270.

THERE WERE SOME NUMBERS MOVING AROUND HERE THAT HAD TO BE FOLLOW FIGURED OUT.

WHEN I DID THE ANALYSIS, I CAME UP WITH A NUMBER, AND THEN I CONFIRMED THAT WITH DIGNITY THAT PHYSICIANS IN SHASTA COUNTY HAVE FALLEN FROM 132 PRIMARY CARE PHYSICIANS TO 58 AND YOU CAN SEE IT'S ACROSS THE BOARD IN EVERY ASPECT OF PRIMARY CARE PHYSICIANS.

WELL, THIS IS AN IMPORTANT ISSUE TO POPULATION BECAUSE THERE ARE HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES DESIGNATE CERTAIN AREAS THAT HAVE A WEAKNESS IN PRIMARY CARE PHYSICIANS OR OTHER SPECIALTIES AS MEDICALLY UNDERSERVED AND HEALTH PROVIDER SHORTAGE AREAS.

THOSE DATA ARE CALCULATED BASED ON POPULATION, SEVERITY OF THE PROBLEM, DISPARITY TO GIVE AN INDEX, AND THAT INDEX AT A RATIO OF ONE TO EVERY 3,000 OR ABOVE.

ONE PRIMARY CARE PHYSICIAN TO EVERY 3,000 OR ABOVE, IT'S ON THE WATCH LIST, AND OVER 3,500, IT BECOMES A MEDICALLY UNDERSERVED AREA AND A HEALTH CARE SHORTAGE AREA AND THAT'S AN IMPORTANT DESIGNATION BECAUSE YOU HAVE GREAT FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES ASSOCIATED WITH WHAT ARE CALLED UNMET NEEDS.

SHASTA COUNTY NOW THAT WE ARE IN A POSITION, WHERE TODAY WE ARE ONE PRIMARY CARE PHYSICIAN FOR EVERY 03,542 RESIDENTS SO WE ARE ABOVE REALLY THE CRISIS LEVEL, AND WE NOW BECOME ELIGIBLE FOR SPECIAL FUNDING.

THAT SPECIAL FUNDING IS BASICALLY, USING INTERVENTIONS THAT PEOPLE BELIEVE IN, HAVE THE RESOURCES AND SUSTAINABILITY AND CAN GENERATE SUPPORT IN THE FORM OF A COMMUNITY ACCEPTABILITY.

YOU HAVE A SCORING SYSTEM, TOO, THAT ALSO TAKES POINTS, AND THOSE POINTS GIVE A DIFFERENT LEVEL OF NEED AND DIFFERENT LEVEL OF FUNDING POSSIBILITY.

FOR EXAMPLE, WE ARE NOW ELIGIBLE FOR FEDERAL FUNDING FOR UP TO 16 BILLION.

I WON'T GO THROUGH THE DETAIL HERE. THESE ARE BIG NUMBERS.

WE ALSO ARE ELIGIBLE FOR STATE FUNDING FOR $350,000,000 IN OUR SITUATION.

MY RECOMMENDATIONS ARE THAT WE ATTAIN THE DESIGNATION OF A HEALTH PROFESSIONAL SHORTAGE AREA AND A MEDICALLY UNDERSERVED AREA.

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NOW, WE'RE ALREADY WORKING WITH UC DAVIS ON POTENTIALLY WITH A RESIDENCY PROGRAM WHERE PEOPLE GO TO UC DAVIS, TRAIN, COME BACK AND DO THEIR AFTER COLLEGE HERE IN SHASTA COUNTY.

WE'RE NOW TALKING ABOUT DOING A SATELLITE CAMPUS.WE'RE ALSO TALKING TO SIMPSON UNIVERSITY, ABOUT A FULL MEDICAL SCHOOL SO I THINK THAT CONVERSATION IS IMPORTANT, BUT WE SHOULD ALSO SEEK FEDERAL FUNDING TO INCREASE OUR MEDICAL RESIDENCY TRAINING PROGRAMS. THANK YOU.

>> THAT WAS RIGHT AT EIGHT MINUTES. IT MIGHT BE A RECORD.

THANK YOU, MS. BLANKENSHIP FOR THE MESSAGE.

DO WE HAVE SOME PUBLIC COMMENT?

>> YES, CHAIR. WE DO.

>> LET'S GO AHEAD, MR. STREET, YOU'D LIKE TO SIT ANYWHERE THERE IN THE FRONT ROW?

>> WE HAVE SEVEN SPEAKERS SO 3 MINUTES?

>> YES.

>> FIRST UP, STEVE CORN.

FOLLOWED BY BRAD GARBETT.

FOLLOWED BY ROBERT, CATHERINE, DAVID HALLIGAN.

IF I CALLED YOUR NAME, PLEASE GET IN QUE.

>> GOOD MORNING, BOARD. STAFF MEMBERS, COMMUNITY MEMBERS? WE ARE DESIGNATED A MEDICALLY UNDERSERVED AREA, AND WE ALREADY QUALIFY FOR THESE THINGS.

OUR NEEDS ARE MORE PHYSICIANS, MORE RESIDENTS IN ORDER TO TRY TO GET MORE PHYSICIANS LONG TERM.

I THINK ALSO NURSE PRACTITIONERS, I THINK WE COULD EXPAND ON THAT.

BUT WE SHOULD BE FOCUSED ON THAT AND ENCOURAGING THESE PEOPLE TO COME HERE WITH SOME OF THE FINANCIAL BENEFITS THAT WE CAN UTILIZE THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO US.

THAT, TO ME, IS WHAT I WOULD HAVE LIKE TO HEAR TODAY THAT THIS IS WHAT WE ARE MOVING FORWARD TO GET MORE PHYSICIANS SO IMMEDIATELY AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

THERE IS A LOT OF FINANCIAL POSSIBILITIES TO HELP MAKE THAT HAPPEN.

WE ARE ALREADY DESIGNATED BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN IN THAT CATEGORY FOR A WHILE.

LET'S MOVE FORWARD AND DO SOME ENCOURAGEMENT IN SPECIFIC AREAS TO GET MORE PHYSICIANS, TO ATTRACT MORE PHYSICIANS, TO ADVERTISE SOME OF THE THINGS, PERHAPS PROGRAMS THAT WE CAN CREATE WITH THESE FINANCES.

LET'S GET SOME MORE PHYSICIANS, SOME MORE PRACTITIONERS, AND ENCOURAGE MORE RESIDENTS TO BE HERE. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

>> BRAD GARBETT, FOLLOWED BY ROBERT, CATHERINE, DAVID HALLIGAN, THEN DON DUKE.

IF I CALLED YOUR NAME, PLEASE GET IN QUE.

>> AS FAR AS A MEDICAL SCHOOL GOES, WE'RE MORE LIKELY TO SUCCEED ON THAT IF THE STUDENTS RECRUITED ARE FROM THE LOCAL AREA.

YOU MIGHT WANT TO SURVEY LOCAL STUDENTS AT THE COLLEGE AND HIGH SCHOOL LEVEL, SEE WHO WANTS TO REALLY GO INTO THAT FIELD AND MAYBE STAY HERE IF THEY HAVE ROOTS.

THE PRESENCE OF A MEDICAL SCHOOL DOESN'T GUARANTEE AN IMMEDIATE INCREASE IN PRACTICING PHYSICIANS.

IT TAKES YEARS FOR GRADUATES TO COMPLETE THEIR EDUCATION AND TRAINING BEFORE THEY START PRACTICING, AND WE HAVE AN IMMEDIATE NEED RIGHT NOW.

QUALITY OF LIFE IN RURAL AREAS SIGNIFICANTLY INFLUENCES A PHYSICIAN'S DECISION TO REMAIN IN OUR AREAS AFTER TRAINING.

READ WHAT PEOPLE SAY ON RED IT ABOUT THE LOCAL CULTURE AND POLITICS.

MANY SPOUSES OR DOCTORS PUT THE BASH ON MOVING OR STAYING HERE IN REDDING SHASTA COUNTY.

MORE LIKELY CHICO WOULD LAND A MEDICAL SCHOOL BRANCH THAN READING.

THEY HAVE A STATE UNIVERSITY WITH A BRAND NEW SCIENCE BUILDING.

THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE HEARD OF THIS TERM.

IT'S CALLED LOCUM TENANTS.

IT'S A LATIN WORD.

IT'S TRAVELING DOCTORS.

WE HAVE TRAVELING NURSES.

THERE ARE TRAVELING DOCTORS.

THIS IS A BETTER IDEA, I THINK, THAN THE MEDICAL SCHOOL.

LOCAL TENENS MEANS TO HOLD THE PLACE OF.

THE TRAVELING DOCTORS ADDRESS STAFFING SHORTAGES, COVER ABSENCES, AND THEY PROVIDE SPECIALIZED CARE.

IF YOU HAVE LOCAL TENENS,

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THE DOCTORS LIKE THIS BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE POTENTIAL FOR HIGHER PAY.

THEN IT GIVES THE DOCTORS OPPORTUNITY TO EXPLORE AREAS THAT THEY MIGHT WANT TO MOVE TO AND LOCATE TO.

I DIDN'T HEAR ANY OF THAT FROM MR. STREET.

BUT LOCAL TENANTS WOULD BE AN IMMEDIATE THING. YOU COULD USE THAT MONEY.

WHY DON'T YOU BUY A COUPLE OF HOUSES HERE IN READING AND PUT THESE DOCTORS UP FOR FREE.

WE ALREADY HAVE DOCTORS THAT COME TO THIS TOWN TO DO SURGERIES FROM UC DAVIS.

THEY ASSIST OUR DOCTORS IN THE HOSPITALS.

YOU ALREADY HAVE THIS.

YOU JUST NEED TO EXPAND UPON IT, AND PERHAPS SOME OF THAT GRANT MONEY CAN BE USED TO DO THAT.

AGAIN, LOCAL LOCAL TENANTS, L-O-C-U-M, T-E-N-E-N-S, RESEARCH IT.

CONSIDER IT. IT WOULD BE A MORE IMMEDIATE RESPONSE TO OUR NEED FOR DOCTORS. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

>> ROBERT, FOLLOWED BY CATHERINE, DAVID HALLIGAN, DON DUCKETT, THEN DELORS LUCERO.

>> BRAD, THANKS FOR THE LATIN REFERENCE, GOD'S PREFERRED LANGUAGE.

MUCH OF MY TALK HAS BEEN TAKEN IN OR PARAPHRASED FROM RANDALL HEMPLING'S RECENT POST.

HEMPLING IS A RETIRED CEO OF SHASTA REGIONAL.

CHRIST CRONY AND CONSULTANT HIRED TO DETERMINE THE HEALTHCARE POWER MANPOWER PHYSICIAN NEEDS FOR THE COUNTY.

HE HAS ESSENTIALLY TAKEN MUCH OF THE INFORMATION FOR HIS $40,000 SHOVEL READY REPORT FROM MERCY'S ASSESSMENT.

THERE'S NOTHING NEW HERE, FOLKS.

CRYE COULD HAVE HAD A STAFF ANALYST DO THAT AS PART OF HIS OR HER DUTIES.

FROM HEMPLING HIMSELF, MERCY'S ASSESSMENT NEEDS NO SPECIAL ANALYSIS OR REQUIRED RESEARCH.

THE FINDINGS CALL FOR A SEEKING DETERMINATION, CALL FOR SEEKING DETERMINATION AS A MEDICAL SHORTAGE AREA, WHICH IS AN AUTOMATICALLY DETERMINED STATUS GIVEN THE DATA.

FINALLY, AS EXPECTED, BUT NOT ON THE CONTRACT, IS THE PUSH FOR A RURAL MEDICAL SCHOOL WITH SEVEN EXPERT COMMITTEE MEMBERS TO PUSH THIS FORWARD.

THIS IS A NICE DREAM PROJECT, BUT DOES NOTHING TO FEEL TO FIX THE REAL ISSUES AMONG WHICH ARE ACCORDING TO HEMPLING, THAT TWO GENERAL HOSPITALS AND READING DO NOT COOPERATE AT ANY LEVEL UNLESS THERE IS A COMMUNITY DISASTER.

THIS IS PARTICULARLY TRUE IN PHYSICIAN RECRUITING AND DEVELOPMENT.

SHASTA COUNTY IS NOT HIGHLY REGARDED, RELATIVE TO THE APPRECIATION OF SCIENCE.

MY PERSONAL INTERPRETATION AS ONE WHO HAS SPENT THE BETTER PART OF FIVE YEARS ATTENDING THE CIRCUS HERE AT 14:50 COURT STREET.

MEETINGS IS LOW EDUCATION, DISTRUST OF BONA FIDE MEDICAL SCIENCE, BEING GULLIBLE AND EASILY DUPED BY MISINFORMATION AND DISINFORMATION AND DECEITFUL MINOR GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS WHO ACT IN WAYS FAR ABOVE THEIR INTELLIGENCE.

LEVEL AND STATION IN LIFE.

HEMPLING REFERENCES THE RISING AND HIGH COST OF HEALTH CARE.

SPECIFICALLY THAT HOSPITALS IN SHASTA ARE AMONGST THE HIGHEST PRICED WITH, I MIGHT ADD, SALARIES AND WAGES BEING AMONG THE LOWEST FOR A MAJOR CALIFORNIA CITY, WITH THE EXCEPTION BEING FOR GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS AND READING WHO MAKE A KILLING ON TAXPAYER RESIDENTS.

LIKELY, THE PLAN IS TO GET HIMSELF HIRED TO STAFF THE MEDICAL SCHOOL COMMITTEE AS ONE OF THE EXPERTS.

ALL OF THIS IS A DISTRACTION, TAKING AWAY ACCOUNTABILITY FROM THE CR GANGS MISGOVERNANCE. THANKS.

>> THANK YOU.

>> CATHERINE, FOLLOWED BY DAVID HALLIGAN, DON DUCKETT, DOLORES LUCERO, THEN BENJAMIN.

>> GOOD MORNING, SUPERVISORS.

I READ THE PRESENTATION LAST NIGHT, AND IT HAS CHANGED SLIGHTLY THIS MORNING.

THE CHALLENGE WITH PRIMARY CARE IS THAT THERE ARE ACTUALLY THREE DIFFERENT KIND OF PROVIDERS THAT PROVIDE PRIMARY CARE.

THE FIRST IS PHYSICIANS, WHICH THIS REPORT ADDRESSES.

BUT WE HAVE NURSE PRACTITIONERS AND PHYSICIANS ASSISTANTS.

THEY ARE EXTENDERS AND THE OLD FASHIONED LANGUAGE.

THEY'RE ACTUALLY MULTIPLIERS WHERE A PHYSICIAN CAN SUPERVISE NUMEROUS OF THESE MID LEVEL PROVIDERS WHO ACTUALLY IN SHASTA COUNTY, PROVIDE A LOT OF PRIMARY CARE.

THIS REPORT DID NOT ADDRESS THAT AT ALL.

IN HIS REPORT, THERE ALSO WAS REALLY NO EVIDENCE THAT MR. STREET TALKED TO OUR TWO FEDERALLY QUALIFIED HEALTH CENTERS IN TOWN.

IF HE DID, HE WOULD HAVE HAD A BIT MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THE FEDERAL FUNDING THAT IS AVAILABLE AND HOW IT SUPPORTS OUR PHYSICIANS.

THERE'S NO CLEAR EVIDENCE AS WELL THAT HE TALKED TO OUR RESIDE RESIDENCY PROGRAMS TO FIND OUT WHETHER OR NOT THE RESIDENTS WHO GRADUATE FROM THESE PROGRAMS ACTUALLY STAY IN SHASTA COUNTY.

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IF WE ARE TRAINING PHYSICIANS HERE AND THEY GO ELSEWHERE, THAT'S NOT GOING TO HELP.

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WAS NOT EVIDENT IN THE PRESENTATION THAT I THINK YOU ALL NEED TO THINK ABOUT.

THERE ALSO IS VERY LITTLE DISCUSSION ABOUT TRUE PARTNERSHIPS.

I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE REALLY NEED TO THINK ABOUT.

IN A RURAL AREA, WE GET ALONG AS A COMMUNITY.

COMMUNITY REQUIRES PARTNERSHIPS, AND THIS PRESENTATION DID NOT HELP WITH THAT.

THINGS LIKE MEDICAL DEBT PAYMENT.

I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MANY PEOPLE I HAVE SPOKEN TO WHOSE CHILDREN WOULD LIKE TO BE A PHYSICIAN.

THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BECAUSE OF THE MEDICAL DEBT THAT THEY INCUR.

AGAIN, THIS REPORT IS ABSENT ABOUT FINDING WAYS TO HELP OUR LOCAL STUDENTS GET A MEDICAL EDUCATION.

FINALLY, THE LAST POINT THAT THE SPEAKER MENTIONED HAS TO DO WITH TWO CAREER FAMILIES.

PHYSICIANS ARE EDUCATED.

THEY OFTEN MARRY PEOPLE FROM THEIR COLLEGE EXPERIENCE, AND THEIR WIVES OFTENTIMES WANT TO WORK, THEY'RE NOT TRAD WIVES.

SHASTA COUNTY DOES NOT HAVE A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY FOR WOMEN ON A CAREER PATH.

THAT IS AN ISSUE THAT I THINK WE HAVE TO CONSIDER AS WELL.

THIS REPORT, I DON'T THINK, HAS DONE A SERVICE TO SHASTA COUNTY, THE ISSUES OF PHYSICAL PHYSICIAN NEED.

I HOPE THAT YOU ALL THINK MORE CAREFULLY ABOUT THE ISSUES.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

>> DAVID HALLIGAN, FOLLOWED BY DON DUCKETT, DOLORES LUCERO, THEN BENJAMIN.

>> GOOD MORNING, BOARD. I'M ALL IN IN PROMOTING THE RESIDENCY PROGRAMS, AND I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF A MEDICAL SCHOOL.

WE DON'T HAVE THE FUNDING FOR SUCH AN UNDERTAKING.

I DO LIKE THE SPECIAL FUNDING AVAILABLE THAT MR. STREET HAS IDENTIFIED IN HIS PRESENTATION.

TODAY'S GRADUATING DOCTORS ARE NOT INTERESTED IN OPENING A PRIVATE PRACTICE.

THEY ARE ALL LADEN WITH HUGE FINANCIAL DEBT.

THEY WANT TO GO TO WORK FOR NATIONAL AND REGIONAL HOSPITALS.

WHY NOT SHASTA REGIONAL? WHY NOT DIGNITY.

LITTLE OR NO RISK HERE.

THEY ALSO WANT BENEFITS WITH GREAT WORKING CONDITIONS WITH FLEXIBLE SCHEDULES.

TO ADDRESS THE SHORTAGE OF DOCTORS IN OUR COUNTY, A MULTIFACETED APPROACH INVOLVING COLLABORATION BETWEEN THE COUNTY AND MEDICAL PROVIDERS IS CRUCIAL.

THIS INCLUDES LEVERAGING FINANCIAL INCENTIVES, STREAM ALIGNING RECRUITMENT EFFORTS, AND FOSTERING A SUPPORTIVE ENVIRONMENT FOR HEALTH CARE PROFESSIONALS.

IT'S TIME FOR THIS COUNTY TO PONY UP WITH SIGNING BONUSES AND REDUCTION OF TUITION DEBT.

THIS WOULD BE TIED WITH TIME FRAMES AND LENGTH OF SERVICE BY THOSE THAT CHOOSE TO RELOCATE TO OUR COUNTY.

WHERE ARE WE WITH RECRUITING AT THE HUNDRED AND 80 PLUS MEDICAL SCHOOLS? WE SHOULD CONNECT WITH THE MAJOR RECRUITING FIRMS. THERE ARE MANY RECRUITING RECRUITING FIRMS THAT SPECIALIZE IN HEALTH FIELD RECRUITING.

IN ADDITION, LOOK AT HIRING THE READING CHAMBER TO PUT TOGETHER A PRESENTATION THAT IS GEARED TOWARDS CREATING ALL THE PLUSES IN OUR COUNTY, GEARED TOWARDS THE GRADUATING HEALTH PROFESSIONALS AND ASSISTING PROMOTING THE HOSPITAL RESIDENCY PROGRAMS. THE MAJORITY OF DATA REGARDING SHASTA COUNTY HAS ALREADY BEEN CREATED BY THE CHAMBER WITH THE VISIT SHASTA COUNTY WEBSITE.

THE CHAMBER WOULD WORK WITH DIGNITY IN SHASTA REGIONAL, ALONG WITH THE ORGANIZATIONS SHARK AND HANK AND CREATE AN OVER THE TOP PRESENTATION TO GO OUT TO GRADUATES AND TO BE USED BY RECRUITING FIRMS. WORKING TOGETHER. WORKING TOGETHER, WE WILL ALL ACHIEVE MORE, YES, MORE, AND IT WILL CREATE UNITY AND RESULTS IN OUR COUNTY BY IMPROVING THE PROFESSIONAL HEALTHCARE SHORTAGE IN OUR COMMUNITIES.

>> THANK YOU.

>> ON DUCKETT, FOLLOWED BY DOLORES LUCERO, FOLLOWED BY BENJAMIN.

>> GOOD MORNING, BOARD. LISTEN, I'M NOT GOING TO TRY TO TALK YOU OUT OF ANYTHING BECAUSE THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER IS IS THAT THE BOARD MAJORITY JUST DOESN'T LISTEN TO ME.

I WANT TO JUST TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT THE CONSULTANT HAS MADE.

IT LOOKS LIKE THEY'VE CHANGED DRASTICALLY FROM WHAT THE ORIGINAL BOARD REPORT, AND THERE IS NO RECOMMENDATION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A SEVEN MEMBER PANEL IN MEDICAL SCHOOL.

I GUESS THAT'S A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

BUT SHASTA COUNTY IN READING,

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WE ARE ALREADY ENJOYING SOME PERKS OF THAT IN THAT MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS THAT COME HERE TO PRACTICE CAN HAVE SOME OF THEIR STUDENT LOANS FORGIVEN FOR PRACTICING IN A HIPSA, OR MOAS, WHICH IS THE UNDERSERVED AREAS.

THERE'S ALSO MEDICARE BILLING 10% BONUSES FOR NEW PRACTICES THAT COME INTO UNDERSERVED AREAS.

IF THE COUNTY IS GOING TO MOVE IN A DIRECTION, I WOULD HAVE YOUR CURRENT EXISTING PIO DO A MEDIA CAMPAIGN TO TARGET RESIDENCY PROGRAMS AND NEW RESIDENTS TO SAY, HEY, LOOK, WE'RE DESIGNATED AS MEDICALLY UNDERSERVED.

IF YOU COME TO PRACTICE HERE, YOU COULD HAVE SOME OF YOUR STUDENT LOANS POSSIBLY FORGIVEN.

THERE'S ALSO POSSIBLE J-1 VISA WAIVERS AND EXTENSIONS FOR IMMIGRANT MEDICAL RESIDENTS.

IN TERMS OF LOCUM TENENS, SHASTA COUNTY MENTAL HEALTH UTILIZES THOSE QUITE A BIT OR THEY DID WHEN I WORKED THERE.

THEY ARE QUITE EXPENSIVE, BUT I DO LIKE THE IDEA OF GETTING SOME GRANT FUNDING TO PROVIDE HOUSING AS AN INCENTIVE FOR TRAVELING DOCTORS AND NURSES.

I ALSO LIKE THE IDEA OF FOCUSING OUR EFFORTS ON NURSE PRACTITIONERS.

I STARTED SEEING ONE LAST YEAR FOR WEIGHT LOSS AND COME TO FIND OUT THAT HE CAN DO EVERYTHING MY DOCTOR CAN DO.

BY THE WAY, CALIFORNIA HAS PASSED LAWS THAT IF A NURSE PRACTITIONER PRACTICES IN THEIR FIELD OF EXPERTISE, WHICH FOR MY GUY, IT'S PRIMARY CARE, THEY DON'T NEED A MEDICAL DIRECTOR AFTER THREE YEARS.

THEY CAN BE THEIR OWN MEDICAL DIRECTOR.

NURSE PRACTITIONERS ARE CHEAPER.

THEY REQUIRE LESS EDUCATION, AND WE SHOULD BE TARGETING THEM AS WELL BECAUSE THEY ALSO CAN GET THEIR STUDENT LOANS FORGIVEN FOR SERVING IN A MEDICALLY UNDERSERVED AREA, WHICH WE ALREADY ENJOY THAT DESIGNATION.

WITH THE BUSINESS ACUMEN THAT YOU HAVE, I JUST DON'T SEE WHY YOU AREN'T SEEING THAT YOU'RE GETTING RIPPED OFF FROM THIS CONSULTANT IN THIS CONTRACT.

THERE'S NOTHING NEW.

THANK YOU [OVERLAPPING]

>> DOLORES LUCERO, FOLLOWED BY BENJAMIN.

>> SOMEBODY LEFT THEIR PHONE HERE.

>> I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE'RE WASTING TIME AND MONEY WITH THIS WHOLE THING HERE, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU ACTUALLY APPOINTED CHRISS STREET.

CHRISS STREET IS NOT QUALIFIED EVEN TO BE STEERING THE COUNTY IN WHAT DIRECTION IT SHOULD BE GOING, REGARDLESS OF THE MEDICAL SCHOOL.

HE DOESN'T QUALIFY AT ALL.

YOU'RE WASTING MONEY, YOU'RE WASTING TIME WITH THE STAFF, GETTING THEM TOGETHER, DOING THE RESEARCH.

YOU'RE WASTING TIME.

WE SHOULD BE FOCUSING ON THE JAIL FOR THE CRIMINALS NOT THE MEDICAL SCHOOL.

THIS IS ANOTHER SCHEME THAT YOU ARE CREATING.

WELL, LOOK AT MR. CHRISS STREET.

HE ACTUALLY APPEALED A SEVEN MILLION DOLLAR LAWSUIT AGAINST HIM BECAUSE HE COMMITTED FRAUD.

IT WAS A SCHEME THAT HE DID IN ORANGE COUNTY.

WE HAVE HIM TRYING TO LEAD THE COUNTY, IN WHAT DIRECTION TO GO? ARE YOU FREAKING KIDDING ME? WHY ARE WE REPEATING AND WASTING TIME ON THIS? I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS, THAT WE ARE LIVING IN A PLACE WHERE THERE'S SO MUCH CORRUPTION.

IT'S ALL ABOUT MONEY AND GREED.

WHAT CAN I GET FOR ME? CHRISS STREET IS GOING TO BENEFIT.

DR. DHANUKA IS GOING TO BENEFIT FROM THIS.

LET'S FACE IT. THE BOTTOM LINE IS DR. DHANUKA AND EVERYBODY ELSE WHO'S PART OF THIS.

THAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE.

HE'S THE ONE BECAUSE HE'S THE DOCTOR, MEDICAL SCHOOL.

YOU SEE THE DOLLAR SIGNS? THE PEOPLE, WE DON'T NEED NO MORE MEDICAL SCHOOL.

WE GOT PLENTY OF DOCTORS.

WE NEED A JAIL.

WE NEED TO RETAIN THE CRIMINALS.

CRIMINALS ARE COMMITTING CRIME EVERY SINGLE DAY.

THAT'S WHAT YOU NEED TO START IN SPENDING YOUR MONEY AND TIME.

WHY ARE WE WASTING TIME AND PUTTING PEOPLE WHO DON'T EVEN FREAKING QUALIFY, AND WHO COMMITTED FRAUD AND STOLE MONEY FROM ANOTHER COUNTY? THESE ARE THE KIND OF PEOPLE YOU APPOINT.

DON'T YOU SEE HOW EMBARRASSING THAT LOOKS FOR OUR COUNTY THAT YOU HAVE TO

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UNBELIEVABLE.

EVERY TIME WHEN PEOPLE GET UP HERE, YOU CAN'T WAIT FOR THEM TO GET OFF THE PODIUM.

THE WAY YOU SAID, THANK YOU.

YOU KNOW THIS IS A RUBBER STAMP. YOU KNOW IT.

WHY ARE WE GOING TO CREATE ANOTHER JOB FOR ANOTHER PERSON TO COMMIT ANOTHER CRIME?

>> THANK YOU.

>> CHAIR, OUR LAST SPEAKER, BENJAMIN.

>> THERE'S NO QUESTION THAT SHASTA COUNTY FACES A PHYSICIAN CRISIS.

WE'VE BEEN TOLD WE ARE SHORT BY AT LEAST 50 DOCTORS, AND ANYONE WHO HAS TRIED TO MAKE AN APPOINTMENT KNOWS THE IMPACT FIRSTHAND.

MY WIFE CAN ATTEST TO THAT TOO.

PHYSICIANS ARE CRITICAL TO OUR COMMUNITY'S HEALTH AND OUR ECONOMY, AND TRAINING THEM LOCALLY COULD, IN THEORY, HELP FILL THE GAP.

BUT CHRISS STREET'S PROPOSAL BRINGS SERIOUS CONCERNS.

WE'RE BEING SOLD A VISION OF A MEDICAL SCHOOL AND RESIDENCY WITHOUT CLEAR FINANCIAL BACKING, UNIVERSITY PARTNERSHIPS OR A PATHWAY TO ACCREDITATION.

THESE AREN'T SMALL HURDLES, THEY'RE FUNDAMENTAL REQUIREMENTS.

BUT BEYOND THAT, THERE'S A LARGER CONTRADICTION.

AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL, THE RECENTLY PASSED BIG BEAUTIFUL BILL WILL STRIP MILLIONS OF AMERICANS OF THEIR HEALTH INSURANCE THAT WILL HAVE LOCAL IMPACTS.

WHEN THOSE CUTS MOVE FORWARD, THE ENTIRE HEALTHCARE SYSTEM WILL BE DE-STABILIZED, AND WITHOUT INSURANCE, PATIENTS CAN'T PAY FOR CARE, HOSPITALS AND CLINICS CAN'T SUSTAIN PROGRAMS, AND MEDICAL GRADUATES WILL STRUGGLE TO FIND THE RESIDENCIES THEY NEED BECAUSE THOSE PROGRAMS ARE FUNDED LARGELY THROUGH INSURED PATIENT CARE AND FEDERAL DOLLARS.

WE HAVE TO ASK, HOW REALISTIC IS IT TO PITCH A MEDICAL SCHOOL HERE WHEN THE BROADER SYSTEM MAY BE UNDERMINED? IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW MANY STUDENTS ENROLL IF THERE ARE NO FUNDED RESIDENCIES TO COMPLETE THEIR TRAINING.

YES, WE NEED PHYSICIANS, BUT WE ALSO NEED HONESTY ABOUT THE SCALE OF THIS PROJECT, THE CREDIBILITY OF ITS BACKERS, AND THE NATIONAL POLICY ENVIRONMENT THAT DIRECTLY AFFECTS ITS SUCCESS.

OTHERWISE, THIS BECOMES ANOTHER EMPTY PROMISE INSTEAD OF A REAL SOLUTION.

>> THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] THIS WAS SPONSORED, LIKE I SAID, BY SUPERVISOR PLUMMER AND MYSELF.

I'M GOING TO GO FIRST.

I WANT TO JUST BRING UP DR. DHANUKA, AND DR. HALL, WOULD YOU GUYS LIKE TO COME UP SIT IN THE FRONT? I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS FOR YOU GUYS.

INSTEAD OF GOING THROUGH EACH OF THE ELOQUENT SPEAKERS AND SOME OF THEIR ITEMS, I'M JUST GOING TO ASK DR. DHANUKA A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS AS WELL AS DR. HALL.

I WILL SAY, I MESSAGED STEWART, ONCE YOU COME UP. REAL QUICK.

LET'S GO AHEAD AND BE UPFRONT.

YOU ARE THE DEPUTY CEO.

THAT WOULD BASICALLY SAY YOU'RE ONE OF THE TWO TOP ANALYSTS OF ALL THE ANALYSTS IN THE COUNTY, IS THAT ACCURATE?

>> I'D LIKE TO THINK DEPUTY CEO AND FORMER ADMINISTRATIVE ANALYSTS, SO SURE. LET'S GO WITH THAT.

>> DO YOU FEEL THAT YOU COULD TAKE ALL THE RESPONSIBILITIES OF OUR CONSULTANT ONTO YOUR PLATE AND MAINTAIN YOUR CURRENT JOB?

>> CONSIDERING WE DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE A PIO, AND I'M FULFILLING THAT RESPONSIBILITY, AND WE JUST ABSORBED THE PRIVACY TEAM FROM HSA, I'M JUST A LITTLE BIT DISTRACTED AT THE MOMENT.

I WOULD SAY THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION IS NO.

>> YOU SHOULD RUN FOR OFFICE. THAT WAS A LONG WAY TO GET TO KNOW. THANK YOU. GO AHEAD AND TAKE SEAT.

>> THANK YOU.

>> YEAH. I JUST WANT TO HELP PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THIS PROCESS.

DR. DHANUKA, COME ON UP, SIR.

SORRY, I KNOW THAT YOU WERE GOING TO JUST COME AND LISTEN, BUT, THREE DOESN'T MATTER.

WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO SHARE ABOUT THE PROCESS? I KNOW, AND I REALLY WANT TO THANK MR. STREET AS WELL, EIGHT MINUTES OF A PRESENTATION OF WHATEVER SIX MONTHS PLUS OF WORK AND YOU GOT IT INTO EIGHT MINUTES.

REALISTICALLY, THAT COULD HAVE BEEN EIGHT HOURS BECAUSE WE'VE HAD MULTIPLE CONVERSATIONS.

SUPERVISOR PLUMMER AND I HAVE HAD MULTIPLE AS WELL AS WITH UC DAVIS, UC IRVINE.

OF COURSE, SIMPSON UNIVERSITY, YOURSELF, DR. DHANUKA.

GIVE US, IN A NUTSHELL, WHAT THIS COALITION, WHY YOU THINK THIS IS THE BEST NEXT STEP.

>> THANK YOU, SUPERVISORS.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ELEVATING OUR HEALTHCARE ACCESS TO ONE OF THE CORE PRIORITIES OF THE SHASTA COUNTY, AS IT SHOULD BE, ALONG WITH THE FIRE PROTECTION AND LAW AND ORDER.

JUST TO START THERE THAT HEALTHCARE IS SUCH A PERSONAL NEED.

IT IS BEST SERVED AT THE LOCAL LEVEL RATHER THAN THE STATE AND FEDERAL LEVEL.

COUNTY ACTUALLY WAS A PLACE WHICH RUNS SHASTA GENERAL HOSPITAL FOR CENTURIES UNTIL 1990 UNTIL IT CLOSED, AND THINGS ARE NOT THE SAME AS THEY WERE WITH THE SHASTA GENERAL HOSPITAL.

>> MAYBE NOT CENTURIES, MAYBE ONE CENTURY BECAUSE SOMEONE'S GOING TO FACT CHECK THAT ONLINE.

[LAUGHTER] SOME PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM WILL CLING ON TO THAT. LET'S JUST CALL IT A CENTURY.

>> YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT. WHAT I MEANT IS IN THIS COUNTRY, THERE HAS BEEN A LONG HISTORY OF COUNTIES PROVIDING THAT SAFETY NET FOR HEALTHCARE.

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FROM OUR SIDE, I BELIEVE THE COMMUNITY STANDS READY TO PARTNER WITH YOU GUYS OR WITH ANYONE ELSE.

WE HAVE ASSEMBLED A COALITION OF DOCTORS AND EDUCATORS AND ADVOCATES, AND DR.

NORM HALL IS HERE WITH ME FROM SIMPSON UNIVERSITY.

HE CAN ALSO GIVE YOU MORE INFORMATION, WHO ELSE IS ON THIS COALITION.

>> AT YOUR REQUEST, HE'S GOING TO BE CHAIRING IT, IS THAT CORRECT?

>> YES.

>> OKAY.

>> YES. WE WOULD LIKE TO INVITE THE COUNTY TO DESIGNATE A REPRESENTATIVE, AND WHATEVER YOU FEEL IS APPROPRIATE TO THIS COALITION, AS WELL AS WE ARE ASKING SHARC, WHICH INCLUDES THE CLINICS, WHICH SOME OF THE SPEAKERS MENTIONED EARLIER AND THE HOSPITALS, WE'RE ASKING THEM TO DESIGNATE A REPRESENTATIVE AS WELL.

WE ARE GOING TO WORK TOGETHER AS A COMMUNITY BECAUSE IT'S A MONUMENTAL TASK TO FIX THIS CHALLENGE, EVEN IN SHORT-TERM AS WELL AS LONG-TERM.

SHORT-TERM, THERE ARE A LOT OF GOOD IDEAS WHICH SPEAKERS PUT FORWARD.

BUT LET ME ASSURE YOU LOCAL HOSPITALS AND CLINICS HAVE REALLY BEEN WORKING HARD ON ALL THOSE IDEAS ABOUT LOAN, FORGIVENESS, RECRUITMENT, ETC.

WE NEED TO WORK ON THAT AS WELL AS FOR LONG-TERM.

THIS IS A MONUMENTAL TASK, AND WE APPROACH THIS WITH THE HUMBLE AMBITION AND THOUGHTFUL PASSION.

I PUT THOSE OPPOSITES TOGETHER FOR A REASON.

OUR UNIVERSE IS MADE OF DIALECTICS.

WHEN OPPOSITES MEET, WE HAVE PROGRESS.

THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, HOW DO WE COME FROM DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE AND COME TOGETHER, AND RATHER THAN WORKING AGAINST EACH OTHER, WE WORK TOGETHER TO BUILD THE FUTURE?

>> LET ME ASK YOUR QUESTION BECAUSE I WANT TO BE CAREFUL SO I DON'T TURN THIS INTO A PRESENTATION.

>> SURE.

>> YOU'VE BEEN A PHYSICIAN IN SHASTA COUNTY HOW LONG?

>> ALMOST 20 YEARS, NEARLY 20 YEARS NOW.

>> YOU'VE BEEN A PHYSICIAN HOW LONG?

>> [LAUGHTER] YOU ARE ASKING MY AGE? [LAUGHTER]

>> YEAH.

>> LONGER THAN 20.

>> 1988, I JOINED THE MED SCHOOL.

>> DODGERS WON THE WORLD SERIES THAT YEAR SO THAT'S A GOOD YEAR.

ANYWAY, SO MY QUESTION TO YOU IS UC DAVIS, WHERE THEY STARTED AND SHARC AND OTHER ORGANIZATIONS WHO STARTED A COMPLETE OPPOSITE DIRECTION, THEY'VE ALL COME AROUND.

THEY'RE ALL COMING AROUND IN DIFFERENT CAPACITIES.

WHY DO YOU THINK THAT IS?

>> BECAUSE THEY SEE THE NEED OF OUR AREA.

THIS IS BIGGER THAN ANY ONE OF US.

ANY SINGLE PERSON OR A SINGLE GROUP, THEY'RE SEEING THAT ALL OF US RURAL COUNTIES, NOT JUST SHASTA COUNTY, SURROUNDING 12, 15 COUNTIES, WE NEED THIS. THIS IS THE NEED.

PLUS, THEY'RE ALSO SEEING THE PUBLIC WANTS THIS, AND THEY'RE SEEING AN OPPORTUNITY THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY CREATE SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BE LONG LASTING, THAT'S GOING TO BE FOR THE NEXT FEW GENERATIONS.

THEY'RE ALL COMING TOGETHER.

UC DAVIS HAS BEEN IN TOUCH WITH US AND WE HAVE BEEN TALKING WITH EACH OTHER.

SHARC HAS BEEN IN TOUCH WITH US, SO HAS BEEN THE DOCTORS FROM CHICO, AND ALL AROUND THE COUNTIES, THE HOSPITALS ARE INTERESTED IN WORKING TOGETHER.

>> PERFECT. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE.

SOME OTHER SUPERVISORS MAY HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS I'M GOING TO ASK DR. HALL.

>> SURE.

>>WELCOME, SIR.

>> GOOD MORNING.

>> GO RED HAWKS.

>> AMEN.

>> REALLY QUICK. I KNOW YOU GAVE US A VIDEO BECAUSE YOU WEREN'T ABLE TO ATTEND, I BELIEVE, OUR LAST MEETING.

HAS ANYTHING CHANGED, AND I'M ASSUMING IT'S JUST CHANGED FOR THE POSITIVE ABOUT SIMPSON UNIVERSITY WANTING TO BE INVOLVED AND BEING IN THIS PROCESS.

IS THERE ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO SHARE?

>> SURE. IT'S CLEAR FROM A NUMBER OF SOURCES THAT THERE'S A HEALTH CRISIS HERE IN OUR COUNTY.

AS REDDING, SHASTA'S HOMETOWN UNIVERSITY, I SIMPLY STEPPED FORWARD AND SAID THAT I WOULD BE GLAD TO ASSIST IN ANY WAY POSSIBLE.

I'VE BEGUN MY OWN STUDY WITH A SMALL COMMITTEE ON CAMPUS BY TALKING TO UNIVERSITY OF PIKEVILLE IN KENTUCKY, WHICH REPRESENTS A SIMILAR REGION IN APPALACHIA, WHICH HAD A SIMILAR DRAMATIC UNAVAILABILITY OF MEDICAL SUPPORT.

THEY CONFIRMED THAT BY LAUNCHING A MEDICAL SCHOOL, THAT THEY WERE ABLE TO AFFECT ABOUT 70 STUDENTS A YEAR FROM A GRADUATING CLASS THAT'S MORE THAN HALF THAT ROOTED IN THE GREATER REGION, THE APPALACHIAN REGION, AS A RESULT OF DELIBERATE FOCUS ON RURAL MEDICAL EDUCATION.

I AGREED TO SERVE ON STUDY TASK FORCE WITH PAUL DHANUKA, AND IRENE SALTER, JASON SALTER, MYSELF, GRETCHEN MELBURG, PAUL WONG AND BRADY HAYNES.

IT'S A BIG LIFT.

IT'S A HEAVY LIFT.

WE'RE WELL AWARE OF IT, BUT I THINK IT'S POSSIBLE.

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>> GREAT. I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.

SORRY TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT.

>> IT'S OKAY. THANK YOU.

>> THE LAST THING I WANT TO SAY BEFORE I TURN IT OVER TO SUPERVISOR PLUMMER IS AGAIN, I JUST REALLY WANT TO THANK DR. DHANUKA, DR. HALL, OF COURSE, MR. STREET, AND WE'LL HAVE SOME BOARD DISCUSSION, BUT PEOPLE WANT TO JUST KEEP TEARING THIS DOWN, WHETHER IT'S BECAUSE I'M LEADING IT ON THE COUNTY SIDE OR WHATEVER, BUT I WOULD SAY, TALK TO THESE GUYS, AND LET'S GET POLITICS OUT OF THE WAY.

IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO ADD TO THE CONVERSATION THAT CAN ACTUALLY MAKE IT BETTER, I WOULD SAY, GET ON BOARD, AND DON'T JUST WEIGH IT DOWN BECAUSE YOU'RE TALKING TO TWO OF THE LEADERS IN EDUCATION IN MEDICINE IN OUR AREA.

IT'S NOT WHAT I'M SAYING IT'S WHAT THEY'RE SAYING.

THIS ALL STARTED BECAUSE DR. DHANUKA TALKED ABOUT IT IN RUNNING FOR OFFICE AT THE CITY OF REDDING.

I KNEW THAT AS A CITY OF REDDING COUNCIL MEMBER, HE WASN'T GOING TO HAVE THE ACCESS OR THE ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO PUSH SOMETHING.

AGAIN, I TALKED TO SUPERVISOR PLUMMER WHEN HE WAS SUPERVISOR ELECT, THAT'S WHERE THIS STARTED.

WE ARE IN A GREAT PLACE RIGHT NOW, AND I'M REALLY THANKFUL FOR THE TEAM AND HOW MUCH THEY'RE PUSHING.

SUPERVISOR PLUMMER, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE, SIR.

>> YES. THANK YOU. I WANT TO CLARIFY TWO THINGS, AND THEN I HAVE A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS.

ONE IS IN BEING A SPONSOR ON THIS, WHICH I SUPPORT THE IDEA OF THE MEDICAL SCHOOL, AND I DO THINK IN TERMS OF GOING THE REGIONAL BRANCH CAMPUS MODEL THAT THAT IS A WAY TO DO IT AT LOW RISK AND LOW COST.

I THINK THERE IS A TON OF POTENTIAL THERE, AS WELL AS THE EFFORTS TO EXPAND THE RESIDENCY PROGRAM.

I DID WANT TO CLARIFY, THOUGH, BECAUSE WHEN I FIRST VOTED TO APPROVE THIS PROCESS, I SAID I WOULDN'T BE MEETING WITH OUR CONSULTANT EVERY TWO WEEKS WITH THE CO. THAT ENDED IN MAY JUST PRIOR TO THE MAY MEETING.

I HAVEN'T BEEN PART OF THE FORMAL PROCESS.

SINCE THEN, THOUGH HAVE BEEN HAVING SOME ADDITIONAL CONVERSATIONS WITH SUPERVISOR CRYE AND SOME OF THE OTHER RELEVANT STAKEHOLDERS.

I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT BECAUSE I KNOW A NUMBER OF PEOPLE ARE ASKING IN TERMS OF MY INVOLVEMENT WITH IT.

MR. STREET, MAYBE YOU COULD COME UP.

I HAVE A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS FOR YOU.

I GUESS THE FIRST AS YOU'RE COMING UP IS, IS THIS THE FINAL REPORT? I BELIEVE THAT YOUR CONTRACT ENDS THIS WEEK, SO I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY IF THIS IS THE FINAL OR IF THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE COMING.

>> NO, THIS THE FINAL REPORT.

I HAVE ONE MORE MEETING TOMORROW, AND THAT'S THE AUGUST 20TH.

>> THEN I BELIEVE AT THE LAST MEETING DURING THAT PRESENTATION, THERE WAS TALK OF, AND IT SOUNDED LIKE YOU INTERPRETED YOUR ASSIGNMENT AS PRESENTING A SHOVEL-READY PROJECT.

I'M NOT SEEING THAT HERE, SO I'M CURIOUS WHERE THE THINKING IS ON THAT, HOW MAYBE THAT'S ADAPTED OR PIVOTED, OR COULD YOU HELP US UNDERSTAND THE GAP BETWEEN WHAT WAS DISCUSSED IN THE LAST BOARD MEETING AND THEN WHAT I HEARD TODAY?

>> WELL, YOU HAVE TWO PROFESSIONALS HERE TALKING ABOUT BUILDING A MEDICAL SCHOOL.

YOU ALSO HAVE UC DAVIS WHO IS NOW WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH US.

I'VE HAD EXTENDED CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM ABOUT SHASTA COUNTY AND OUR PATIENT FLOW AND SUCH LIKE THAT, MAKING US THE MOST APPROPRIATE RURAL LOCATION FOR A SATELLITE CAMPUS, AND THOSE DISCUSSIONS ARE MOVING FORWARD.

AS FAR AS THE SHOVEL-READY PROJECT, YOU NEEDED MONEY.

PEOPLE HAVE SAID, WE DID HAVE POCKETS IN SHASTA COUNTY, WHICH WERE MEDICALLY UNDERSERVED.

THERE ARE 6,000 POCKETS AROUND THE UNITED STATES.

BUT WE ARE NOW A MEDICALLY UNDERSERVED COUNTY, A HEALTH PROFESSIONAL SHORTAGE AREA.

WE ARE AN EXTREME CHANGE IN THE NATION AND WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO QUANTIFY THAT.

WE'VE GONE FROM 132.

>> THAT'S A 56% CRASH IN EIGHT YEARS, AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE DATA, WE'RE GOING TO BE DOWN TO 36 IF THINGS DON'T CHANGE.

PEOPLE HERE, DOCTORS HERE ARE PRACTICING IN THEIR 80S.

THEY'RE VERY COMMITTED TO THEIR PATIENTS, BUT THEY CAN'T GO ON FOREVER.

SHOVEL-READY HAD TO DO WITH THE IDEA THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET FINANCIAL SUPPORT.

WE NOW QUALIFY COUNTY WIDE, MATTER OF FACT, MY ADDRESS HERE IN READING WAS JUST CHANGED TO MEDICALLY UNDER SERVED AREA, HEALTHCARE PROFESSIONAL UNDER-SERVED AREA.

BUT INTERESTINGLY, IT'S STILL RATED AS URBAN BECAUSE IN THE 2010 CENSUS SOMEHOW SHASTA READING CALIFORNIA DECIDED IT WAS URBAN,

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I THINK WE'RE IN A DIFFERENT PLACE THAN WE WERE, AND THE MONEY IS THERE.

I THINK THAT THERE'S SOME DISCUSSIONS GOING FORWARD NOW, AND WE'RE GOING TO ACTUALLY HAVE PLANS TO UTILIZE THOSE FUNDINGS AND SEEK THOSE GRANTS.

I CALL THAT SHOVEL-READY.

>> THEN YOU MENTIONED UC DAVIS, AND I KNOW SUPERVISOR CRYE, DR. DHANUKA, AND DR.

NORM HALL, AS WELL AS CEO RICKERT, WE'RE IN A MEETING WITH UC DAVIS, MEDICAL SCHOOL REPRESENTATIVES IN THE END OF JUNE, AND THERE AFTER THAT, THEY SHARED A DOCUMENT THAT BASICALLY DESCRIBED.

HERE ARE THE NINE THINGS THAT YOU NEED TO DEMONSTRATE IN ORDER TO BE A VIABLE CANDIDATE.

I KNOW WE HAD SOME CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT AND THE WORK OF, CAN WE PUT TOGETHER A REPORT THAT DEMONSTRATES? I'M CURIOUS IF YOU COULD UPDATE US ON THE STATUS OF PUTTING TOGETHER SOME TYPE OF DOCUMENT TO SHARE WITH UC DAVIS.

THAT WOULD ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS THAT THEY PRESENTED IN THAT.

>> WELL, I DID NOT ATTEND THAT MEETING BECAUSE I WANTED TO BE ON THE TECHNICAL SIDE, AND I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THEIR ORGANIZATIONS.

WE'VE HAD MANY CONVERSATIONS.

IN FACT, I BELIEVE THAT UC DAVIS SENT A LETTER OF SUPPORT FOR OUR DESIGNATION.

>> YES. SUPERVISOR PLUMMER, AND WE HAVEN'T CIRCLED BACK ON THIS, BUT THAT'S PART OF THE WORK THE COALITION IS GOING TO PICK UP AND RUN WITH IN THE NEXT STEP IS, I DIDN'T FEEL AND AGAIN, WE PROBABLY COULD HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS.

THIS HAPPENED ABOUT 2.5 WEEKS AGO, BUT DR. DHANUKA IS GOING TO LEAD THAT WITH OTHER PHYSICIANS IN THE HOSPITAL PEOPLE BECAUSE I DIDN'T FEEL IT RIGHT PERSONALLY FORM.

I WAS GOING TO SAY DR. DHANUKA, IF YOU WANT, YOU CAN PROBABLY BRING HIM UP.

I ASKED HIM ABOUT THAT [INAUDIBLE].AS YOU KNOW, WE'RE FARTHER ALONG THAN CHICO IS, AND CHICO'S BEEN WORKING AT THIS, WELL, I THINK, 10 YEARS, BUT THEY SAID OFFICIALLY AROUND FIVE.

WHAT YEAR WAS IT THAT UC DAVIS BAILED OUT OF DOWNTOWN AND BROKE THEIR LEASE?

>> WELL, UC DAVIS ACTUALLY BUILT A HUGE CLINIC IN DOWNTOWN.

THE BUILDING NOW, THE TALLEST BUILDING IN TOWN THAT HAS THE SHAFT COLLEGE SIGN ON IT.

THE BOTTOM FLOOR FOR THAT WAS GOING TO BE A UC DAVIS CLINIC, AND TWO YEARS AGO, WITH THE BUILDER BUILDING THE BUILDING AROUND THAT, ABANDONED THE PROJECT, PAID A $200,000 BREAKUP FEE, AND WENT HOME.

I THINK WE'RE IN A DIFFERENT PLACE THAN WE WERE WITH UC DAVIS.

UC DAVIS NOW UNDERSTANDS THE PATIENT FLOW HERE IN SHASTA COUNTY, WOULD BE SUPERIOR TO THAT OF CHICO, IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO WHAT'S, REALLY A MEDICAL SCHOOL REALLY NEEDS A TEACHING HOSPITAL.

NOW, WE'RE NOT THERE YET, BUT WE'RE ON THE PROCESS TO GETTING THERE YET.

I THINK BOTH DR. DHANUKA AND CHANCELLOR HALL WOULD AGREE WITH ME THAT WE'VE GOT DISTANCE TO GO, BUT IT'S RELATIONSHIP, DISTANCE.

I THINK THE MONEY IS GETTING CLOSER, AND I THINK THE IDEA OF THE PUBLIC COMING AROUND THIS, WHEN WE FIRST STARTED A LOT OF DISSENSION.

I'M GETTING NO DISSENSION.

MATTER OF FACT, I'M MEETING WITH SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT WEREN'T SUPPORTIVE OF THIS TOMORROW, AND THEY BELIEVE WE'RE MOVING FORWARD.

I BELIEVE WE'RE MOVING FORWARD.

>> DR. NICK HAS MADE IT CLEAR AS WELL THAT IT'S NOT UC DAVIS OR BUST.

THE REASON SIMPSON'S HERE IS BECAUSE HE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT THE NURSING PROGRAM. I'M SORRY, GO AHEAD.

>> WELL, THAT ACTUALLY WAS ANOTHER QUESTION, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS FOR DR. DHANUKA OR MR. STREET, BUT DR. DHANUKA ALLUDED THAT DR.

NORM HALL IS THE CHAIR OF THIS COALITION?

>> THAT'S WHAT HE SAID.

>> IT WAS DR. DHANUKA OR DR. HALL, EITHER ONE.

>> WE HAVE A MEETING NEXT WEEK.

WE HAVE ALREADY HAD MEETING LAST MONTH, AND WE HAVE BEEN DEVELOPING THE PROGRAM AND WE'LL BE COMING UP PUBLICLY WITH THE CHARTER AND THE STRUCTURE, WHICH WE WILL MAKE PUBLICLY AVAILABLE.

I SEE THAT IF WE PARTNER WITH WHICHEVER UNIVERSITY IS GOOD, BUT LOCALLY, SIMPSON IS OUR BEST PARTNER, AND WILL SERVE US BEST IF SIMPSON RUNS WITH THE ACCREDITATION.

THAT'S WHAT OUR DESIRE IS, BUT IT'S NOT FINAL YET.

WE WILL BE MAKING A FINAL STRUCTURE NEXT WEEK.

>> THAT WAS MY QUESTION IS BY SELECTING THE SIMPSON PRESIDENT AS THE CHAIR, ARE WE ESSENTIALLY, IS THAT A STRATEGIC CHOICE THAT WE'RE SAYING WE'RE GOING WITH SIMPSON VERSUS PURSUING A PARTNERSHIP?

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IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE PURSUING ACCREDITATION AT THIS POINT.

AT THIS POINT, WE ARE PURSUING.

WE ARE KEEPING ALL THE OPTIONS ON THE TABLE.

RIGHT NOW, THIS IS NOT AN OFFICIAL SIMPSON PART.

WE'RE KEEPING ALL THE OPTIONS ON THE TABLE AND PURSUING THIS AS A COMMUNITY GROUP TO SEE WHAT OPTION WILL WORK BEST FOR US.

I LOVE UC DAVIS. I'M A PART TIME FACULTY THERE.

MY DAUGHTER GOES THERE, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I HAVE SEEN BEING A QUASI OF GOVERNMENT INSTITUTION, THEY DO ACT VERY SLOW, AND AT THE SAME TIME, THEIR FOCUS IS MORE ON THE CENTRAL VALLEY OR THEY'RE RIGHT NOW WORKING WITH SANTA CRUZ.

PLUS, THEY WANT US TO BRING OUR OWN MONEY.

RIGHT NOW WE'RE KEEPING ALL THE OPTIONS ON THE TABLE AND WE'LL SEE WHAT WORKS BEST.

UC DAVIS IS VERY MUCH ON THE TABLE.

IT'S JUST WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S THE BEST OPTION.

>> DO WE HAVE A WORKING DOCUMENT THAT ADDRESSES AND THIS MIGHT BE A MR. STREET QUESTION, BECAUSE I KNOW WE'VE ACTUALLY CONTRACTED WITH HIM TO DO THIS WORK, BUT DO WE HAVE A WORKING DOCUMENT THAT ADDRESSES THOSE NINE POINTS THAT YOU UC DAVIS HAS OR HAS THAT NOT BEEN STARTED YET?

>> YES. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON, AND WE'LL BE COMING UP WITH THE PUBLIC CHARTER, AND AS YOU ARE VERY WELL AWARE, THOSE THINGS HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFULLY CRAFTED, KEEPING IN MIND REQUIREMENTS FROM THE ACCREDITING AGENCIES LIKE LCME.

THOSE THINGS WILL TAKE SOME TIME.

THAT'S NOT SOMETHING WHICH IS GOING TO BE PRESENTABLE IN NEXT ONE WEEK OR TWO WEEKS OR ONE MONTH? BUT WE'LL BE COMING UP WITH OUR CHARTER AND STRUCTURE SOON, BUT WE'RE ABSOLUTELY WORKING TOWARDS THOSE LONG TERM LCM ACCREDITATION DOCUMENTS.

>> THEN, THE OTHER THING I KNOW AT THE END AND I'LL DIRECT THIS TO MR. STREET.

THANK YOU, DR. DHANUKA.

I KNOW AT THE LAST MEETING, I HAD MENTIONED AND PROPOSED MADE A MOTION TO PROPOSE THAT WE INCLUDE FOUR ELEMENTS IN THE REMAINING SCOPE OF WORK, WHICH ULTIMATELY THE BOARD DID NOT APPROVE, BUT PART OF THE DISCUSSION AT THE TIME WAS THAT THAT WAS ALREADY HAPPENING.

I WOULD LOVE AN UPDATE ON WHERE WE STAND ON THOSE, WHICH IS THE FIRST ONE WAS A LETTER OF SUPPORT FROM LOCAL PHYSICIAN GROUPS IN TERMS OF THEIR INTEREST IN BASICALLY HAVING RESIDENTS AND OVERSEEING ROTATIONS.

THE SECOND WAS LETTER OF SUPPORT FROM THE THREE HEALTH SYSTEMS. THE THIRD WAS A CLINICAL ROTATION FEASIBILITY MODEL, AND THEN THE LAST WAS A CLINICAL ROTATION TESTING PILOT AND WHAT POTENTIAL OPTIONS THERE.

COULD YOU SHARE AN UPDATE ON THOSE FOUR TO THE EXTENT THAT WE'VE ADVANCED THOSE?

>> WELL, FIRST OF ALL, I'D LIKE TO SAY THAT WE HAD A TREMENDOUS RESOURCE HERE IN SHASTA COUNTY.

I FOUND TREMENDOUS RESOURCES AND A LOT OF DIFFERENT PEOPLE IN SHASTA COUNTY.

ONE IS THAT SIMPSON UNIVERSITY HAS THE NUMBER 1 RATED NURSING SCHOOL IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA.

THE TECHNICAL KNOWLEDGE AND THE SUPPORT AND THE BACKGROUND FOR THAT WAS INVALUABLE TO ME.

I REALLY RESPECT SIMPSON AND NORHALL FOR BEING INVOLVED.

AS FAR AS THE ISSUES ASSOCIATED WITH TO DEVELOP A BETTER RESIDENCY PROGRAM IS REALLY FUNDING.

I CAN TELL YOU THAT DIGNITY ACTUALLY SHRANK THE RESIDENCY PROGRAM IN 2006 FROM 10-6 TO 7.

IT'S A FUNDING ISSUE, AND YOU'VE MENTIONED SPECIALTY ISSUE.

IT'S A SPECIALTY ISSUE.

THROUGH THIS PROCESS, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT WE NOW HAVE A SURGEON WHO'S JOINING DR.

BLAND AND DIGNITY'S.

DR. BLAND HERE MANAGES THE RESIDENCY PROGRAMS IN SHASTA COUNTY WITH DIGNITY.

I'M WORKING WITH DR. LUPKA WHO ACTUALLY LIVES IN THE AREA HERE.

SHE'S THE REGIONAL REPRESENTATIVE FOR UC DAVIS.

WE ARE DISCUSSING A LOT OF THESE ISSUES.

I DON'T WANT TO SAY SPECIFICS ABOUT IT, BUT EVERYBODY HERE IS ALL IN.

I'M GETTING ABSOLUTE COOPERATION AND REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.

>> I THINK WHAT HE'S ASKING DIRECTLY TO ABOUT JUST THE LETTERS OF SUPPORT.

I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS, SUPERVISOR PLUMMER IS THAT'S WHAT THIS COALITION IS REALLY MEANT TOWARDS BECAUSE I THINK AND I'LL JUST SAY IT AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, GUYS, BUT POLITICALLY, A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE SAYING WHO GOES FIRST, WHO WANTS TO GO SECOND? BECAUSE I PUT THAT LETTER OUT TO THOSE HOWEVER MANY ORGANIZATIONS? I'VE HAD THREE LETTERS COME BACK, ONE FROM A COMMUNITY INDIVIDUAL THAT'S AN ATTORNEY, BUT NOT EVEN WAS ONE OF THOSE ORIGINAL LISTS,

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IT JUST MAKES ME SCRATCH MY HEAD BECAUSE ALL WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS GETTING SOMETHING TOGETHER SO WE CAN GO AFTER FEDERAL FUNDING AGGRESSIVELY WITH CONGRESSMAN LAMALFA.

THE POLITICS, I DON'T NECESSARILY UNDERSTAND IN THE MEDICAL COMMUNITY.

DR. DHANUKA UNDERSTANDS THAT HE'S THE CHAIR OF WHAT THE NORTH VALLEY PHYSICIANS ASSOCIATION?

>> YES.

>> THERE'S YOUR LETTER OF SUPPORT FROM THAT GROUP, AND THERE'S ALREADY A BUNCH OF THEM WORKING IN THAT SO I THINK IN TERMS OF JUST GETTING PHYSICAL LETTERS, THEY'RE WORTH THE PAPER THEY'RE WRITTEN ON IF WE DON'T GET PEOPLE TO LEAN IN AND BE BOLD AND MOVE.

>> WELL, I THINK THE COALITION IS A GOOD IDEA, AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, AND SHARK ALSO SUGGESTED AS WELL, AND SO I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT THAT'S MOVING FORWARD.

I DID I WOULD SAY I WOULD HAVE EXPECTED US TO MAKE MORE PROGRESS ON SOME OF THESE ITEMS OVER THE LAST 2-3 MONTHS, BUT GOOD TO HEAR THAT THE COALITION WILL BE PICKING THAT UP.

I WAS A LITTLE SURPRISED BY SOME OF THE COALITION MEMBERSHIP.

I DIDN'T KNOW ALL OF THE NAMES, BUT I DIDN'T HEAR MANY FOLKS FROM AND I KNOW YOU SAID THERE WOULD BE A SHARK REPRESENTATIVE, WHICH I THINK IS GREAT, BUT I DIDN'T HEAR MANY REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE MEDICAL COMMUNITY, AND SO MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT SOMEONE COULD SPEAK TO.

I DON'T KNOW WHO PUT THAT TOGETHER.

>> WELL, IT'S A LITTLE BIT PREMATURE FOR ME TO SAY THIS BECAUSE I WAS TRYING TO [OVERLAPPING]

>> DON'T FEEL LIKE YOU HAVE TO.

>> IT'S OKAY.

>> CAUSE WHAT I DON'T WANT TO DO AND I BELIEVE FULLY IN PUBLIC TRANSPARENCY, BUT AS YOU'RE WORKING WITH DIFFERENT DOCTORS OF SAYING WHO'S GOING TO BE ON IT, BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT I'LL TELL YOU.

AT THE END OF THIS, MY MOTION IS GOING TO BE THAT WE TAKE NO VOTE, AND WE HAVE THIS MEETING HAPPEN.

ALL OF US CAN HAVE ALL THE CONVERSATIONS BETWEEN NOW AND THURSDAY BEFORE NEXT WEEK'S AGENDA COMES OUT ABOUT WHO'S ON THAT, AND I RESPECT THE FACT THAT SOME PHYSICIANS ARE WORKING THROUGH THAT.

PART OF IT, THOUGH, IF YOU NOTICE A COUPLE OF THOSE DAMES ARE GOING TO BE TIED TO FUNDING.

AGAIN, I DON'T CARE WHERE THE FUNDING COMES FROM.

WE NEED MONEY TO BE ABLE TO EXECUTE SOME OF THIS, AND THE PEOPLE AT THE TABLE, IF THEY WANT MAYBE AN ORGANIZATION THEY'VE BEEN AFFILIATED WITH OR ARE AFFILIATED WITH TO WRITE A CHECK, TO BE ON A BUILDING.

I DON'T CARE. I DON'T CARE WHO IT IS.

I WANT BETTER HEALTHCARE. THAT'S WHAT I WANT.

>> CHAPS, IF I MAY JUST MENTION SOMETHING TO YOUR SUPERVISOR, PLUMMER, TO YOUR QUESTION ABOUT, YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE PROGRESS. TRUST ME.

NOMA IS IN MORE OF A HURRY THAN I AM.

PART OF THE REASON IT'S A SLOWER PROCESS THAN IT SHOULD BE OTHERWISE IS BECAUSE WE ARE LIVING THROUGH CONTENTIOUS TIMES WHEN THERE ARE OF CONFLICTS, AND PEOPLE ARE FRANKLY AFRAID TO PUT THEIR NAME OUT THERE.

PEOPLE ARE REALLY AFRAID TO STAKE THEIR HONOR AT THAT.

I'M FULLY FOR IT.

I'M HAPPY THAT JUST WHAT I MIGHT ASK IS, LET'S NOT ATTACK EACH OTHER.

I WELCOME ENTHUSIASM AS WELL AS I WELCOME CRITICISM AND SKEPTICISM, BUT IF YOU HAVE A DISAGREEMENT, CHALLENGE ME, LET'S NOT ATTACK EACH OTHER.

IF WE CAN CREATE THAT ENVIRONMENT, THAT PEOPLE ARE HAPPY TO SPEAK UP RATHER THAN BE AFRAID OF SPEAKING UP AND WHICHEVER SIDE YOU ARE ON, THEN WE WILL HAVE MUCH FASTER PROGRESS.

THAT'S WHAT MY ASK IS, THAT OUR JOB IS TO TEACH HOW TO HEAL.

LET'S FOCUS ON THAT.

IF YOU GIVE US THAT ENVIRONMENT, I TRUST YOU AND I CAN ASSURE YOU WE'LL BE PROGRESSING MUCH FASTER AND WE'LL GETTING YOU ALL THOSE THINGS ABSOLUTELY TRANSPARENTLY SO THAT YOU CAN SEE FOR YOURSELF.

>> THANK YOU. I WANT TO COME BACK TO SOMETHING AFTER, BECAUSE I THINK THERE IS AN IDEA FOR ADDRESSING A HEALTHCARE PROVIDER SHORTAGE WITHIN THE COUNTY THAT WE COULD ACT ON, BUT I'LL COME BACK TO THAT AFTER GREAT OTHER SUPERVISORS WANT.

>> I'LL MAKE ONE CALL.

>> MR. STREET.

>> WE NOW HAVE ACCESS TO TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF FUNDING.

THIS PROBLEM AROSE OVER TIME AND ACCELERATED BUT WE'RE IN A UNIQUE SITUATION.

COUNTY WIDE, WE ARE MEDICALLY UNDERSERVED AREA, HEALTH PROFESSIONAL SHORTAGE AREA.

THOSE ARE POWERFUL POSITIONS WHEN YOU GO TO GRANT FUNDING.

WE QUALIFY AT THAT OVER 3,500 NOW.

THAT IS A POWERFUL INTRODUCTION.

>> JUST FOR FOR CLARITY, FOR PEOPLE WATCHING AT HOME OR RE-WATCHING THIS, WHEN PEOPLE COME UP IN PUBLIC COMMENT AND TALK ABOUT THIS INFORMATION HAS BEEN READILY AVAILABLE FOR MONTHS OR YEARS, IT'S LIKE WELL, THAT'S INTERESTING BECAUSE DIGNITY JUST DID THEIR LAST REPORT IN JUNE OF 2025.

IT'S CRAZY. ANYWAY, SUPERVISOR ALONG.

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>> THANK YOU, CHAIR. I HAD A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR YOU.

YOU'VE MENTIONED THE FEDERAL FUNDING THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

DO YOU HAVE SPECIFICS ON THAT? HAVE YOU APPLIED FOR IT? ANY PARTICULARS THAT YOU CAN SHARE OTHER THAN IT'S JUST OUT THERE?

>> NO. FIRST OF ALL, WE HAVE TO GET IT DESIGNATED AT A MEDICALLY UNDERSERVED HEALTH PROFESSIONAL SHORTAGE AREA.

I CAN TELL YOU PERSONALLY OVER THE WEEKEND I LOOKED UP MY LOCATION, WHICH IS JUST OUTSIDE OF THE CITY OF READING, AND IT'S NOW A MEDICALLY UNDERSERVED HEALTH PROFESSIONAL SHORTAGE AREA.

THAT IS A NEW CHANGE.

WE NEED THE COUNTY WIDE DESIGNATION.

THERE ARE FOUR GRANTS COMING IN ON SEPTEMBER 22, GOT TO APPLY BY SEPTEMBER 22.

WE ARE NOW IN THE BALL GAME FOR THIS $16 BILLION.

SOMEBODY MENTIONED ISSUES ABOUT HAVING ATTENDANT LOCUM DOCTORS THAT TRAVEL.

WE HAD SOME OF THOSE DOCTORS.

WE LOST THE STATUS TO GET FUNDING FOR THOSE PROGRAMS. WE'RE NOW AT LEAST IN THOSE PROGRAMS.

>> EXPLAIN WHY WE LOST THAT?

>> WELL, WE LOST IT BECAUSE THE DIGNITY REPORT SAID WE'RE ONE FOR EVERY 554.

THAT'S A LONG WAY FROM 3,000 WHERE YOU'RE IN THE WARNING ZONE AND 3,500 WHERE YOU'RE IN THE STATUS ONE.

>> I SHOULD HAVE BEEN OUR CONSULTANT.

THAT NUMBER FROM 22 WOULD HAVE NEVER BEEN BROUGHT UP AND THE PUBLIC WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT. THAT'S MY OPINION.

>> I'LL JUST SAY YES.

>> NEXT QUESTION, FOLLOWING ALONG THOSE LINES.

IT APPEARS TO ME, UNDERSTANDING THAT WE'VE GOT BERNIE, WE'VE GOT SHASTA LAKE, I THINK ANDERSON, SOME OF THOSE ARE DESIGNATED UNDERSERVED AREAS, AND THEY'RE ELIGIBLE FOR SOME OF THESE THINGS.

IT'S NOT JUST US WRITING A LETTER SAYING, PLEASE CONSIDER THE ENTIRE COUNTY UNDERSERVED, IT'S RATHER FORMULAIC.

IT'S NOT POLITICAL, AND IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN JUST ASK FOR AND BE GRANTED.

I DON'T NECESSARILY KNOW THAT I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE LETTER TO ASK, BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO DESIGNATE AREAS THAT DON'T FIT THE FORMULA OF DOCTOR SHORTAGES AND UNDERSERVED POPULATION AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.

I HEARD DOCTOR DHANUKA SAY PARTNERING WITH THE COUNTY.

WHAT YOU HAVEN'T ADDRESSED SO FAR IN THIS PRESENTATION IS WHO IS GOING TO APPLY FOR THESE GRANTS AND THIS MONEY AND FEDERAL FUNDING AND ALL THAT STUFF.

IS IT GOING TO BE THE COUNTY AS A MAIN APPLICANT? ARE WE PARTNERING IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF A MEDICAL SCHOOL, OR IS IT SOMEBODY THAT WE'RE JUST GOING TO HELP FACILITATE THAT APPLICATION ON BEHALF OF ANOTHER GROUP? IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE WE'RE LOOKING TO HAVE THE COUNTY IN THE MEDICAL SCHOOL BUSINESS, AND WE HAVEN'T HAD A GENERAL HOSPITAL SINCE THE 90S, WHEN I FIRST STARTED IN READING, IT WAS THERE, BUT THAT DISAPPEARED AND WE HAVEN'T BEEN IN THE HOSPITAL BUSINESS FOR QUITE SOME TIME.

ARE YOU ADVOCATING THAT WE PARTNER WITH OR ARE YOU ADVOCATING THAT THE COUNTY JUST HELP FACILITATE?

>> I THINK THE TERM IS COLLABORATE.

>> WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?

>> COLLABORATE. THAT YOU HAVE A SITUATION WHERE THE COUNTY IS A RESPONSIBLE PARTY FOR PUBLIC HEALTH. IS DOCTOR MOOR HERE? DOCTOR MOOR, I MEAN, DOCTOR MOOR CAN TELL YOU HE ISSUED A HEALTH CARE CRISIS FOR THE COUNTY, NOT PART OF THE COUNTY, ALL OF THE COUNTY.

THESE AREAS THAT ARE DESIGNATED, THESE LITTLE ISLANDS THAT WERE DESIGNATED BEFORE.

THEY DON'T SPEAK TO THE ABILITY TO GET FUNDING BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANY FACILITIES THERE.

NOW, WE HAVE A LOT OF FACILITIES IN READING, NONE OF WHICH WERE ELIGIBLE FOR FUNDING BECAUSE THEY WERE IN A NON MEDICALLY UNDERSERVED AREA AND MORE IMPORTANT ADDRESS WISE.

MORE IMPORTANTLY, THEY HAD DEEMED THEMSELVES URBAN, WHICH WE'RE RURAL AND WE SHOULD BE PROUD OF IT.

THERE'S A LOT OF MONEY IN THAT.

I THINK THAT WE NEED TO WORK WITH EVERYBODY WHO'S IN THE HEALTH CARE BUSINESS, AND WE NEED TO HELP THEM.

THE COUNTY NEEDS TO BE A SUPPORTIVE ENTITY AND A LEADER IN A LARGER FOOTPRINT.

THIS WAS THE PERFECT JOB FOR THE COUNTY TO GO AND LOOK AT THE ENTIRE DESIGNATION FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, WORK WITH ALL OF THE RESPONDING ORGANIZATIONS, AND THEN BE ABLE TO PRESENT THAT THEY WERE IN A CRISIS AND THEY'RE QUALIFIED FOR THIS FUNDING.

I WOULD WORK WITH ANYBODY.

>> I STILL DON'T UNDERSTAND YOUR ANSWER TO MY QUESTION.

MY QUESTION IS, ARE YOU LOOKING THROUGH ALL OF THIS FOR THE THE COUNTY PROPER TO

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>> YES. I BELIEVE THE COUNTY SHOULD BE IN CHARGE OF APPLYING FOR GRANTS, WHICH THEY ALREADY DO.

I THINK THE COUNTY SHOULD LIAISON, WHICH THEY ALREADY DO WITH SHARC AND OTHER ORGANIZATIONS TO TRY TO BUILD FUNDING.

I BELIEVE THAT THE COUNTY SO LIAISON, WHICH THEY ALREADY DO IN THE RESIDENCY PROGRAMS. YOU'RE THE LEADERS.

I THINK YOU NOW HAVE A DIFFERENT TOOL THAT YOU THAN WHAT YOU HAD SIX MONTHS AGO, A POWERFUL TOOL THAT CAN ALLOW YOU TO ADDRESS A INCREDIBLY RISING PROBLEM.

I THINK YOU'VE JUST GOT TO NEW TOOLBOX.

YOU GOT TO DECIDE WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO WITH IT.

>> WELL, THANK YOU FOR THAT ANSWER BECAUSE THAT'S A CONSIDERATION A CONCERN THAT I HAVE.

THE COUNTY A DOESN'T HAVE ANY MONEY AND WHAT LITTLE FUNDS WE HAVE SET ASIDE, THEY'RE DEDICATED TOWARD OUR CORRECTIONS FACILITY AND LAW ENFORCEMENT AND PUBLIC SAFETY, BASICALLY.

YOU LOST ME WHEN YOU START TO INCLUDE THE COUNTY AS A PARTNER IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF ALL THESE PROGRAMS AND APPLYING FOR THE GRANTS AND SOME OF THAT, EVEN IF WE WERE TO GET THE UNDERSERVED DESIGNATIONS, WE'RE GOING TO BE PUTTING THE COUNTY ON THE HOOK TO RECEIVE THOSE GRANT FUNDS TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE OUTCOMES OF PROJECTS AND EVERYTHING, WE BECOME PARTNERS IN THIS AND I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF THAT, JUST TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.

I DO LIKE THE IDEA OF A COLLABORATION AND I KNOW YOUR FIRST PROPOSAL HAD ESTABLISHING A SEVEN MEMBER COMMITTEE, AND I HAD A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT WHO THAT WOULD BE.

I'VE GOT A LETTER FROM SHARC, THE SHASTA HEALTH ASSESSMENT REDESIGN COLLABORATIVE THAT YOU'RE VERY FAMILIAR WITH AND THEY HAD ADDRESSED THIS TO THE COUNTY AND TO DOCTOR DHANUKA BECAUSE HE'S PART OF SHARC, AND SO SHARC HAS BEEN WORKING ON SOME OF THESE ISSUES WITH HANK FOR A VERY LONG TIME.

THEY ARE THE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS.

>> WHAT'S THE DATE OF THAT LETTER JUST SO THIS PUBLIC KNOWS WHAT LETTER.

IS IT THE ONE THAT WAS SENT BY CEO THORNOK A FEW DAYS AGO?

>> THIS WAS AUGUST 8TH.

>> THAT WAS THE ONE SAYING THAT THEY WANT TO BE AT THE TABLE?

>> CORRECT.

>> AFTER THEY SAID THAT THEY WANTED NOTHING TO DO WITH IT, AND NOW THEY WANT TO BE AT THE TABLE?

>> YES.

>> THAT LETTER.

>> IT'S A LETTER WHERE SHARC HAS VOLUNTEERED TO STEP UP AND BE THE MEDICAL EXPERT ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND I DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH A REPRESENTATIVE.

BUT I THINK WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL WHO WE PICK AND WHO WE PUT ON THIS COMMITTEE.

THEY ARE THE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS.

I WOULD NEVER PRETEND TO BE A SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT AS A COUNTY REPRESENTATIVE IN A FIELD LIKE MEDICINE.

I DON'T HAVE ANY BACKGROUND KNOWLEDGE, THAT WOULD BE DISASTROUS.

I THINK WHEN YOU START TO THINK ABOUT FORMING COMMITTEES, THEN YOU HAVE TO ESTABLISH BY LAWS AHEAD OF TIME.

YOU HAVE TO THIS IS A STEP BY STEP PROCESS BECAUSE THE BYLAWS WILL DETERMINE WHO GETS SEATED ON THE COMMITTEE HOW LONG THEIR TERMS ARE? HOW DO YOU REPLACE THEM IF THEY CAN'T MAKE SERVICE ANYMORE? ALL THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. I THINK WE'RE GETTING A LITTLE BIT OUT OF ORDER HERE.

TO ME, IT WOULD SEEM THAT A COMMITTEE OF SHARC TYPE HANK TYPE MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS WOULD BE THE BEST SUITED TO ADDRESS THESE ISSUES, AND DOCTOR DHANUKA WOULD BE WELL QUALIFIED TO SIT IN THAT COMMITTEE.

>> SUPERVISOR HOW LONG HAS SHARC AND HANK BEEN AROUND? ARE THEY NEW?

>> NO.

>> THEY'VE BEEN DOING THIS A LONG TIME, CORRECT?

>> CAN I CAN I FINISH?

>> WELL, I'M JUST CURIOUS.

>> I'M NOT GOING TO GET DISTRACTED WITH YOUR QUESTIONS.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THAT IS A POINT WHERE WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT A COALITION, I COULD BE IN FAVOR OF A COALITION.

WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT PARTNERSHIP WITH THE COUNTY, I CAN'T GET BEHIND THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE NO BUSINESS, WE HAVE NO MONEY.

WE HAVE NO BUSINESS BEING IN THE MEDICAL FIELD AT THIS TIME.

THAT WOULD BE THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING THAT AND THEN I THINK THAT'S THE THREE POINTS THAT YOU HAVE ADJUSTED YOUR PRESENTATION TO INCLUDE.

THANK YOU FOR THAT. SUJA LONG, JUST FOR BOARD DISCUSSION IN THE PUBLIC'S INTEREST, WHAT SOLUTIONS DO YOU HAVE? I KNOW, HEY, STOP IT.

WE'RE HAVING A BOARD DISCUSSION.

WE CAN'T DO IT ANYWHERE ELSE OTHER THAN HERE.

I WOULD NOT PRESENT TO BE A SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT.

I BELIEVE THAT IT WOULD BE A GROUP LIKE SHARC AND HANK OF MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS IN THE COMMUNITY EXPLORING OPTIONS TO PURSUE FUNDING IF IT'S APPLICABLE,

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IT'S A VERY COMPLEX ISSUE, AND IT INVOLVES RESIDENCY, RETENTION.

IT INVOLVES HOW DO WE ADDRESS THE UC DAVIS MEDICAL SCHOOL BRANCH? CAN WE GET THAT POSSIBILITY? THAT SOUNDS LIKE IT HAS A LOT OF POTENTIAL FOR ME.

WE PURSUE AND WE KEEP.

>> HOW DID WE GET THERE? HOW DID YOU SEE DAVIS AND UC IRVINE GET TO THAT POINT? IT'S BECAUSE OF THIS PROCESS.

>> REALLY?

>> WELL, REALLY YOU MADE SOME GOOD POINTS.

I DON'T WANT TO BE IN THE HOSPITAL BUSINESS EITHER. I AGREE WITH YOU.

>> WE SHOULD NOT.

>> BUT AS LEADERS OF THIS COMMUNITY, IF WE SIT ON OUR HANDS AND SAY, LET SOMEBODY ELSE DEAL WITH IT BECAUSE WE'RE NOT SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS, THEN BASICALLY, WHAT ARE WE ALL DOING HERE? IF WE DON'T HAVE BIG IDEAS AND GO AFTER IT, OUR COUNTY IS GOING TO GO 132 TO 58 TO 30 SOMETHING DOCTORS.

MEANWHILE, HOLD ON A BUNCH OF PEOPLE SIT AND SAY, SE OUT THERE, 10 MILES AWAY.

HERE COMES A BOULDER AND OR METEOR, AND IT'S 5 MILES AWAY, HERE COMES A BOULDER, OR A METEOR AND THEN IT LANDS ON US, AND THEN SOMEBODY NEXT TO THE METEOR SAID, THEY SAW IT, AND IT CRUSHED THIS GUY.

THAT'S HOW I FEEL. SUPERVISOR PLUMMER.

>> WAIT I'M NOT DONE.

>> I'M SORRY YOU WEREN'T IN QUE I'M SORRY.

GO AHEAD. I JUST WANT SOLUTIONS.

>> I UNDERSTAND YOU WANT SOLUTIONS, BUT TO JUMP HAPHAZARDLY INTO SOME PROJECT THAT TIES AND BINDS THE COUNTY'S LIMITED FUNDING.

WE HAVE NO MONEY.

WE CAN BRING UP ERIN BERTAIN, AND SHE WILL TELL US, THERE IS NO MONEY.

IF AND WHETHER IT'S THIS ISSUE OR OTHER ISSUES, EVERY DOLLAR WE DEDICATE TO THIS PROCESS IS TAKING $1 AWAY FROM OUR PUBLIC SAFETY CAMPUS, OUR ALTERNATIVE CUSTODY PROGRAM.

PUBLIC SAFETY IS THE NUMBER ONE ISSUE IN OUR COMMUNITY.

IT'S THE NUMBER ONE RESPONSIBILITY THAT WE HAVE, AND IT'S IN OUR JURISDICTION.

THIS MEDICAL SCHOOL, DO WE HAVE A CRISIS? YES, WE DO.

I'VE SAID THAT TIME AND TIME AGAIN.

HOWEVER, WE ARE NOT IN THE BUSINESS OF PARTNERING WITH THE DEVELOPMENT OF MEDICAL SCHOOLS AND THOSE KINDS OF PROGRAMS. I WILL NOT VOTE TO DEDICATE MONEY THAT IS LIMITED AND IN SHORT SUPPLY.

>> YOU ALREADY DID? YOU APPROVED THE $25,000 FOR THE RESIDENCY PROGRAM.

YOU ALREADY DID VOTE FOR THAT. HOLD ON.

>> LET'S BE TRUTHFUL.

>> YOU ALREADY DID.

>> WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT IS THAT'S GAS TING. I WOULD GIVE.

>> THANK YOU FOR THE PERSON IN THE CROWD HELPING YOU.

WE BEAT THIS SIZER PLUMMER.

>> WELL, I KNOW YOU HAD A MOTION RELATED TO THIS.

DO YOU WANT TO MAKE THAT? AND THEN I WANTED TO BRING UP ANOTHER IDEA IN THIS CONTEXT.

>> I'D LOVE TO HEAR YOUR IDEA. I MEAN THIS IS GREAT.

>> I ACTUALLY ASKED HHH DIRECTOR CHRISTY COLEMAN TO COME OUT, BECAUSE WHEN WE THINK ABOUT THE COUNTY, WE ALSO HAVE MEDICAL PROVIDERS, BUT THEY'RE MORE LIMITED AND THINKING ABOUT WHAT CAN WE DO THERE TO ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE SHORTAGES? MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT WE HAVE AND FOR A LONG TIME HAD BASICALLY A VACANCY AROUND A PSYCHIATRIST AND A PSYCHOLOGIST IN THE COUNTY.

>> THAT'S CORRECT.

>> COULD YOU SHARE A LITTLE BIT OF THE CONTEXT ON THAT.

>> SURE. WE HAVE A PSYCHIATRIST, CHIEF OF PSYCHIATRY POSITION THAT'S BEEN VACANT FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS.

WE'VE HAD MULTIPLE RECRUITMENTS, FAILED RECRUITMENTS, WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO HIRE, SO WE ACTUALLY HAVE A CONTRACT WITH LOCUMS TO DO PSYCHIATRY WORK FOR US.

JUST LOOKING AT THE CONTRACT, OUR CONTRACT WITH LOCUMS IS FOR PSYCHIATRIST AND NURSE PRACTITIONERS, AND IT'S 1.6 PER YEAR. IT'S QUITE A BIT.

IF WE WERE TO HIRE AN ACTUAL CHIEF OF PSYCHIATRISTS AND EVEN A WHAT'S CALLED A SENIOR PSYCHIATRIST AND IF WE HAD TWO NURSE PRACTITIONERS, WE WOULD SAVE AT THE TOP OF THE TOP OF THE STEPS FOR ALL OF THOSE POSITIONS, ABOUT $250,000 A YEAR.

MID IF THEY SAVE.

IF WE WERE TO HIRE THEM AT THE MID RANGE, WHICH WHAT THEY WOULD PROBABLY START OUT WITH, IT WOULD BE 500,000 TO $600,000 PER YEAR SAVINGS.

LOCUMS DOES COST QUITE A BIT TO ACTUALLY HAVE FOR US TO PROVIDE SERVICES.

>> IN TALKING WITH MISS COLEMAN, WE THOUGHT THAT IT COULD BE HELPFUL TO HAVE AS SIGNING BONUS FOR THESE POSITIONS THAT HAVE BEEN VACANT FOR A LONG TIME.

WE COULD USE, AND I ASKED MISS BERTINE ABOUT THIS.

>> OPIOID DOLLARS.

>> WE COULD USE THE OPIOID DOLLARS.

SINCE IT'S COMORBIDITIES IT'S A GREAT IDEA OF HEALTH AND BEHAVIORAL HEALTH.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE DIRECT STAFF TO BRING BACK A PROPOSAL FOR ASSIGNING BONUS.

>> I'LL SECOND THAT.

>> VACANCY.

>> HEY, THANK YOU AND MISS COLEMAN, THANK YOU FOR WORKING WITH SUPERVISOR PLUMMER ON THAT. THANK YOU.

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>> THANK YOU.

>> SUPERVISOR HARMON. GREAT JOB MAN.

>> THANK YOU SUPERVISOR PLUMMER. THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT.

I THINK THE COUNTY AND I'M DIRECTING THIS TO SUPERVISOR LONG.

I UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERNS.

BUT I DON'T FEEL LIKE I'M HEARING THAT THIS MONEYS IS GOING TO COME FROM OUR FUNDS AND IN OUR GENERAL FUNDS, WE'RE GOING AFTER GRANTS.

YOU DID A GOOD JOB, THANK YOU WITH YOUR PRESENTATION.

BUT WE'RE GOING AFTER OTHER MONIES.

THAT'S THE WHOLE IDEA BEHIND THIS, CORRECT? BUT I UNDERSTAND CRIME.

BUT YOU CAN'T SEPARATE IT.

YOU CAN'T SEPARATE CRIME AND REHAB ISSUES IN SHASTA COUNTY WITH THE BIGGEST DEPARTMENT WE HAVE, WHICH IS HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES.

WE CAN'T SEPARATE IT.

WE NEED TO GET BEHIND THIS, AND I SUPPORT IT WHOLLY.

>> SUPERVISOR LONG, I'M SORRY.

>> SUPERVISOR HARMON, I APPRECIATE THAT THOUGHT.

THIS IS WHY I REALLY CLARIFIED THAT WITH MR. STREET, WE CAN HELP FACILITATE THE APPLICATION FOR GRANT PROGRAMS. WE CAN WRITE A LETTER TO TRY TO GET THE ENTIRE COUNTY DESIGNATED AS UNDERSERVED.

HOWEVER, THE MINUTE WE PUT OUR NAME AS THE COUNTY APPLYING FOR THESE GRANTS, WE'RE PART OF THE PROGRAM NOW, AND WE HAVE THE DUTY TO SEE THIS GO THROUGH.

IF YOU WERE TO SAY, COULD WE HELP FACILITATE AND GUIDE INDIVIDUAL GROUPS THAT ARE MORE APPROPRIATE TOWARD BUILDING A MEDICAL SCHOOL? COULD WE GUIDE THEM INTO THE APPLICATION PROCESS AND HELP ASSIST THEM AND WRITE LETTERS OF SUPPORT? YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

BUT THE MINUTE WE START PUTTING YOURSELF ON THE DOTTED LINE, THAT'S WHY I HAD THAT CLARIFICATION.

WE BECOME PART OF THE PROJECT, AND WE BECOME PART OF THE OUTCOME.

WE BECOME PART OF EVERYTHING, SO I THINK THAT'S A DANGEROUS PLACE TO GO WHEN WE DON'T HAVE MONEY.

WHAT ARE WE GOING TO ABANDON IT WHEN WE GET 10% THROUGH THE PROJECT, AND NOW THEY DON'T HAVE ANY MORE MONEY? THAT'S A QUICK STEP TO SAY, THE COUNTY CAN AFFORD THIS. WE'LL PUT IN MONEY.

THIS IS JUST WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY, AND WE CAN BRING UP ERIN BERTAIN TO DISCUSS THAT, BUT WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY AND EVERY DOLLAR THAT WE KEEP BLEEDING OUT ON DIFFERENT THINGS IS A DOLLAR WE TAKE AWAY FROM OUR SHERIFFS AND OUR TAKE AWAY FROM OUR PROGRAM.

>> HE DOESN'T GET IT.

>> RIGHT. BUT WE'RE GOING AFTER THE MONIES. THAT'S THE POINT.

>> SUPERVISOR, I APPRECIATE YOUR CONCERN, SUPERVISOR LONG ABOUT COMMITTING US TO MONEY.

I THINK AT THIS POINT, THE FUNDING SOURCES LISTED HERE ARE A PRETTY HIGH LEVEL, AND SO THERE WOULD STILL BE A LOT OF WORK BETWEEN ACTUALLY FIGURING OUT WHICH GRANT DOLLARS AND WHAT WOULD THEY ACTUALLY BE USED FOR? I MEAN, THE SONG BROWN GRANT DOLLARS, LIKE SHASTA COMMUNITY HEALTH CENTER USES THOSE TO FUND THEIR RESIDENCY.

>> ABSOLUTELY.

>> I THINK WE'RE QUITE A FEW STEPS AWAY FROM THE COUNTY BEING IN A POSITION TO PUT ITS NAME ON ANY GRANT DOLLARS.

I THINK WE CAN ADDRESS THAT IN THE FUTURE.

I KNOW THAT'S WHAT MR. STREET SAID THAT THAT POTENTIALLY WOULD BE BUT THIS IS NOT AT THE LEVEL OF SPECIFICITY WHERE WE'D BE ABLE TO EVEN HAVE A REAL DISCUSSION AROUND THAT.

>> I MEAN, YOU WANT TO RESPOND SUPERVISOR LONG?

>> NO.

>> I MEAN, INTO COAT TAIL, THAT'S THE THING, AND I AGREE WITH SUPERVISOR LONG.

HE IS NOT NOR AM I OR ANY OF US MEDICAL EXPERTS, BUT DR. DHANUKA, I WOULD RIVAL ANYBODY IN THIS ROOM OR ANYBODY IN THIS COMMUNITY TO SAY THEY'RE MORE OF AN EXPERT IN MEDICINE THAN DR. DHANUKA.

IT'S REALLY CLEAR TO ME, SO WE HAVE SUPERVISORS PLUMMER'S MOTION ON THE TABLE.

WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THAT.

WANT ME A SUBSTITUTE [INAUDIBLE] BUT JUST A SECOND ONE.

WE'LL TAKE HIS VOTE FIRST.

SUPERVISOR PLUMMER HAS MADE A MOTION TO BRING THAT BACK.

I WILL SECOND THAT. I'M GOING TO ASK STAFF TO BRING THAT BACK.

I DON'T KNOW TOMORROW. NO.

>> QUICK AS SIGNING BONUS. CAN YOU REITERATE.

>> WHAT THAT WAS ABOUT?

>> YEAH, THAT'S TO INSTITUTE AS SIGNING BONUS FOR OUR COUNTY PSYCHOLOGIST AND COUNTY PSYCHIATRIST POSITIONS USING OPIOID SETTLEMENT.

>> WHAT WAS THE MONEY? AMOUNT.

>> I KNOW IN TALKING WITH MS. COLEMAN, SHE HAD SAID PROBABLY AROUND 15 TO 20,000.

>> GO AHEAD.

>> THAT WOULD BE UP TO STAFF.

>> NO, I MEANT. COUNSEL.

>> MICROPHONE HERE.

>> OH, IT IS WORKING, BUT IT'S NOT SHOWING THAT IT IS.

ULTIMATELY, YOU GUYS ARE MOVING INTO AN AGENDA ITEM, AND SO YOU NEED TO BRING IT BACK.

>> WE'RE GOING TO BRING IT. YOU MAKE A MOTION. WE'RE GOING TO BRING THIS BACK.

WHAT HE'S GOING TO BRING BACK AND THAT I SECONDED IS HAVE STAFF WORK ON WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE,

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>> CORRECT.

>> ALL RIGHT. I SECOND THAT. WE'LL JUST TAKE IT ALL AT ONCE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?

>> AYE.

>> OPPOSED. HEARING NONE. PASS THIS FIVE.

I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION THAT AND JUST FOR CLARITY, THE MEETING NEXT WEEK IS A ZOOM MEETING, I BELIEVE, THE COALITION.

THERE IS NO BROWN ACT OR ANY.

IT'S JUST A COLLABORATIVE AND AT THIS POINT, DR. DHANUKA, DR. HALL, AND THE PEOPLE HE'S MENTIONED ARE RUNNING THAT.

THIS ISN'T SOMETHING THAT I BELIEVE IS GOING TO BE THIS OVERLY BUREAUCRATIC PROCESS.

WHAT WE DON'T WANT TO DO IS GET ALL THESE BOARD MEMBERS, AND IT BECOMES A BROWN ACT THING, AND THEN IT JUST GOES TO DIE SOMEWHERE IN COMMITTEES FOR YEARS.

I PERSONALLY HAVE GREAT FAITH IN DR. DHANUKA, AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT HE'S PUSHING ANY ONE AGENDA, BUT I'M SURE IF YOU ASK OR ANY OF US ASK TO BE A PART OF THAT MEANING TO UNDERSTAND, I WILL BE BRINGING BACK WHO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE.

PERSONALLY, I REALLY FEEL OUR HHSA DIRECTOR SHOULD BE SEATED AT THAT TABLE AS IT RELATES TO MONEY, AND IT RELATES TO SOME OF THESE MEDICAL NEEDS, ESPECIALLY WITH THE MOTION YOU MADE.

BUT AT THIS TIME, I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION.

I GUESS I WOULD HAVE TO EVEN BRING IT BACK.

COUNSEL, IS THAT CORRECT? I COULD JUST PUT SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA NEXT WEEK, AND WE CAN VOTE ON THAT OR ANYBODY.

I WOULD NEED A MOTION FOR THAT BECAUSE THE MEETING HAPPENS NEXT TUESDAY, AND JUST FOR MY OTHER FELLOW BOARD MEMBERS, I MAY WAIT TWO WEEKS BEFORE I DECIDE TO BRING BACK A PERSON THAT WOULD REPRESENT.

I MEAN, AS OF RIGHT NOW, I AM ALL FOR CHRISTY COLEMAN, DIRECTOR CHRISTY COLEMAN, SITTING ON THAT ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD.

>> WE DON'T HAVE ANY FORMAL AUTHORITY TO APPOINT SOMEONE.

WE WOULD JUST BE MAKING A RECOMMENDATION.

>> WE'RE BASICALLY JUST SAYING, HEY, CEO MAKE SURE THE HHSA DIRECTOR SHOWS UP TO THE MEETING, BECAUSE THAT COMMITTEE, OVERALL, DOESN'T HAVE ANY AUTHORITY OVER THE BOARD OVER OUR MONEY.

WE ARE THE END ABL, SO WHATEVER THEY DO, IF THEY COME BACK WITH A RECOMMENDATION TO US.

I MEAN, WHAT WE'VE ASKED IS WE'VE ASKED OUR CONSULTANT TO CARRY THE BALL THIS FAR.

AT THIS POINT, THE BALL IS BEING PICKED UP BY DR. DHANUKA AND OTHERS, AND AGAIN, AS SUPERVISOR LONG SAID, WE'RE NOT THE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS.

HE IS. SO LET HIM AND OTHER LEADERS IN THAT CAPACITY RUN WITH IT.

I DON'T THINK WE NEED A MOTION. I THINK WE'VE BEAT THIS UP ENOUGH.

MR. STREET, THANK YOU. IS HIS CEO RECORD AS A CONTRACT OFFICIALLY UP?

>> TOMORROW.

>> TOMORROW. YOU'RE TAKING MEETINGS ALL THE WAY THROUGH TOMORROW.

>> I JUST WANT TO SAY THIS.

[OVERLAPPING]

>> SO MANY PEOPLE [INAUDIBLE].

>> COULD YOU TURN HIS MIC ON? IS HIS MIC UP?

>> I JUST WANT TO SAY, I'M SO THANKFUL FOR SO MANY PEOPLE THAT CONTRIBUTED TO THIS EFFORT.

MANY WEREN'T VERY POSITIVE WHEN WE STARTED, BUT WE'VE REALLY MADE A LOT OF PROGRESS.

PEOPLE HAVE IDENTIFIED THE IDEA.

YOU'RE NOW TAKING TIME IN THIS BOARD TO FOCUS ON IT.

I THINK THAT'S ADMIRABLE.

I THINK FOCUS CREATES SOLUTIONS.

WE HAVE THE HOME GROUND HERE.

WE HAVE THE GENE POOL, I THINK, TO TAKE CARE OF OURSELVES AND SOLVE OUR PROBLEM.

THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME BE PART OF THIS PROCESS.

>> THANK YOU. CEO RICKERT.

>> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I AGREE THAT I THINK KRISTIE WOULD BE ADDED BONUS TO THIS COALITION OF MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS, AND I WILL DIRECT HER TO DO THAT.

I DON'T THINK WE NEED BOARD ACTION FOR THAT.

I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO THANK MR. STREET FOR ALL HIS TIME EFFORT AND ENERGY WITH THIS PROJECT.

I THINK A LOT OF GOOD INFORMATION CAME OUT OF THAT.

WE'RE MOVING IN A VERY POSITIVE DIRECTION.

ONCE AGAIN, THANK YOU, MR. STREET.

>> THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THE BOARD'S DISCUSSION AND OPEN DIALOGUE.

ALL RIGHT. MOVING ON TO R_3.

>> R_4.

>> R_4. YES. SORRY ABOUT THAT.

[R4 Take the following actions regarding the Old Shasta County Courthouse Demolition Project: (1) Receive an update from the Department of Public Works; (2) provide direction on a proposal to construct parking lot on the demolition site; and (3) authorize Public Works Director to solicit third party proposals for turnkey solar array options.]

>> WE STILL CALL IT R_4.

>> WE STILL CALL IT R_4. MOVING ON TO R_4 PUBLIC WORKS, TROY BARTLETT PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR.

THIS ISN'T SPONSORED BY MYSELF BECAUSE IT IS SOMETHING WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, BUT I WILL SAY I HAD HEARD THAT OUR STAFF WAS SPENDING QUITE SOME TIME ON WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

WHEN I SAID, I WON'T SAY FLIPPANTLY, BUT WHEN WE ALL HAD DIFFERENT IDEAS, WHETHER IT BE A PARK OR PICKLEBALL COURTS OR A PARKING LOT OR SOLAR, I DIDN'T THINK THERE WAS GOING TO BE A LOT OF ADDED STAFF TIME IN THAT.

I JUST THOUGHT IT WAS DURING THE PROCESS WHILE, BUT THEN I FOUND OUT THERE IS A LOT OF STAFF TIME GOING INTO SOME OF THESE THINGS.

WHEN I KNOW FISCALLY, WHEN WE LOOK AT THIS INFORMATION, THERE IS NO WAY ANY OF US ARE GOING TO SUPPORT, MOST LIKELY THE MAJORITY OF THOSE OPTIONS, AS MUCH AS WE MAY LOVE THEM, FISCALLY, ESPECIALLY AFTER THE LAST CONVERSATION WE JUST HAD THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO WANT TO SPEND MONEY ON THAT.

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>> TROY, THANK YOU.

>> CHAIRMAN CRYE, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, JOY BARTLE MAY, DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS.

I'M HERE TODAY FOR A THREEFOLD THING HERE IS ONE.

I'M WANT TO UPDATE YOU ON OUR PROGRESS ON THE COURTHOUSE DEMOLITION PROJECT.

TWO, HOPEFULLY TO RECEIVE DIRECTION REGARDING A PROPOSED PARKING LOT CONSTRUCTION, AND THREE REQUEST AUTHORIZATION TO SOLICIT A THIRD PARTY FOR CONSTRUCTION OF A SOLAR ARRAY.

THEN WHAT BRINGS US TO THIS POINT IS, IF YOU REMEMBER BACK ON MARCH OF 2025, THE BOARD DIRECTED THE DEPARTMENT TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE FORWARD WITH THE DEMOLITION PROJECT.

IT WAS DETERMINED WE'D REVISIT THE SITE USE FOR THE FINAL DISPOSITION OF THE LAND AT A LATER DATE, POSSIBLY THE END OF THIS YEAR.

IN THE MEANTIME ON JUNE 25TH, WE RETAINED IN IG TO REFORM THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROCESS.

THEY'VE COME TO A POINT IN ENVIRONMENTAL PROCESS WHERE WE NEED TO WOULD BE VERY BENEFICIAL THIS TIME TO MAKE A DECISION AS THE FINAL DISPOSITION OF THE PROPERTY.

WHAT HAS REALLY CHANGED THINGS AND SPED IT UP A LITTLE BIT TO THIS POINT IS A COUPLE OF THINGS.

ONE THING IS THE OLD JAIL BACK HERE.

THE OLD JAIL THROUGH THEIR HISTORICAL SURVEYS AND THEIR ANALYSIS HAS BEEN DETERMINED TO BE HISTORICALLY SIGNIFICANT.

THE REASON IT'S HISTORICALLY SIGNIFICANT IS BECAUSE IT WAS BUILT WITH FEDERAL PUBLIC WORKS PROGRAM DOLLARS TOWARDS WHEN THEY DID THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE DAM.

IT WAS BECAUSE OF THE INCREASED POPULATION, THERE WAS A NEED, AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT BUILT THAT JAIL, AND BECAUSE IT WAS PART OF THE DAM AND THAT DAM IS A VERY BIG PIECE AND THE IDENTITY OF OUR MAKEUP OF THIS COUNTY AND HENCE THE WAY IT'S RELATED IS CONSIDERED HISTORICALLY SIGNIFICANT.

BECAUSE IT'S HISTORICALLY SIGNIFICANT, IT'S OUR BEST VENUE, ACCORDING TO OUR BEST AVENUE IS TO GO TO A FULL BLOWN EIR.

NOW, WHEN WE DO A FULL BLOWN EIR, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO A MITIGATED; IF WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING, WE'LL BE REQUIRED TO MITIGATE THAT JAIL.

IT DOESN'T MEAN WE CAN'T TEAR IT DOWN.

THERE'S ALL KINDS OF MITIGATION THINGS.

THERE'S THINGS THEY CAN DO TO REGISTER IT HISTORICALLY, BUILD PLAQUE, BUILD MONUMENTS.

THERE'S ALL KINDS OF OPTIONS WE CAN DO.

BUT NOW WE HAVE THIS BUILDING HERE SITTING IN THE MIDDLE OF THE WHOLE PROJECT, THAT'S HISTORICALLY SIGNIFICANT, AND THE CONSULTANT SAYING, HEY, WE'VE GOT TO MAKE A DECISION WHICH WAY WE'RE GOING TO GO.

ORIGINALLY, WE SAID, WE'LL TEAR EVERYTHING DOWN, PUT A BARE LOT UP, FENCE IT UP, AND WE CAN DECIDE LATER.

WELL, NOW, TWO THINGS.

ONE, WE NEED TO DECIDE, THROUGH THE IR PROCESS AND THROUGH VETTING THIS, WHAT IS THIS SITE GOING TO BECOME? THE MOST INNOCUOUS THING OR I'M INNOCUOUS, THE SIMPLEST THING WOULD BE TO PUT DOWN A PARKING LOT.

BECAUSE NOW TO DO ANYTHING OTHER, WE COULD MOVE THROUGH THE PROCESS, DO THE IR, AND NOT KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO BECOME OF IT AT THE END, BUT THEN AT THE END OF THAT PROCESS, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO THROUGH A SECOND ENVIRONMENTAL PROCESS NOW BECAUSE NOW I HAVE A BARE LOT.

WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO? I'M NOT SAYING THAT'S ONEROUS, BUT IT'S A LITTLE BIT REDUNDANT, A LITTLE BIT REPETITIVE.

THE REASON I'M PROPOSING A PARKING LOT AT THIS TIME IS BECAUSE JUST AT A HIGH LEVEL, WE'VE LOOKED AT A FEW THINGS.

WE'VE LOOKED AT A PARK, FOR INSTANCE.

TO MAKE IT A PARK, NOT ALL BUT THE GRANTS I'VE LOOKED AT, THE THINGS I'VE EVALUATED, SPENT TIME LOOKING AT, NONE OF THEM HAVE BEEN 100%, AND THEN ALL OF THEM HAVE THE ONES THAT I CAN FIND.

MOST OF THEM, THEY WANT US TO DEDICATE THAT LAND AS A PARK IN PERPETUITY.

THESE THINGS WOULD COST MONEY.

THE OTHER IDEAS WE CAME UP WITH WERE A BUILDING WHERE WE COULD HAVE FARMERS MARKETS OR SOMETHING OF THAT.

ALL THESE THINGS COST MONEY.

THE LEAST EXPENSIVE OTHER THAN A BARE LOT, WOULD BE A PARKING LOT.

AS I'VE WATCHED THE LAST MONTHS DEVELOPMENT THINGS, IT SEEMS TO ME THERE'S NO INTEREST IN RIGHT NOW IN COMPETING DOLLARS FOR THE ACP OR THE ALTERNATIVE CUSTODY PROGRAM.

IN MY OPINION, IT SEEMS TO GO FORWARD WITH A PARKING LOT AT THIS TIME WOULD BE THE EASIEST CHOICE.

WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO COME BACK FOR A SECOND EIR.

WE PUT THE PARKING LOT OUT THERE.

IT WOULD BE VERY EASY ENVIRONMENTALLY AND INSTRUCTURALLY, FROM ANY OTHER ASPECT TO MAKE THAT FOR FUTURE USE AT SOME TIME.

SOME OF THE THINGS I MENTIONED, EVEN IF IT'S A PARKING LOT AND THE NON USE HOURS.

IT COULD STILL BE USED ON THE WEEKENDS FOR A FARMER MARKET OR SOME COMMUNITY EVENTS.

IT'D BE A BIG OPEN SPACE.

THE OTHER POSITIVES ABOUT IT ARE IS THERE JUST QUITE A PARKING SHORTAGE, ESPECIALLY FOR STAFF? JUST THE CONCEPT THAT I HAVE DRAWN UP.

I SHOULD HAVE PROVIDED THAT, I APOLOGIZE.

IT'S THE ONE THAT I HAD BACK IN THE OLD PRESENTATION.

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THAT WOULD BE WE COULD LOSE SOME IF WE LEAVE THE JAIL OR WHAT WE DECIDED TO DO WITH THE JAIL.

THEN THE LAST THING I PUT IN THERE IS WE COULD LOOK AT A SOLAR ARRAY.

THE REASON I PUT THAT IN THERE IS JUST NOT TO SAY WE'RE GOING TO DO IT.

I'D LIKE THE OPPORTUNITY JUST FOR DIRECTION TO GO ENGAGE, MAYBE DO AN RFP WITH SOME SOLAR COMPANIES.

WHAT THE PUC ALLOWS IS FOR A TURNKEY OPERATION.

WE DID THIS WITH NG, WHICH IS NOW KNOWN AS OTERA, ALL THESE SOLAR PANELS ON THE PARKING LOT OVER HERE, ON THE ROOF OF THIS BUILDING, PUBLIC WORKS, THE SOLAR ARRAYS.

THAT WAS A PROJECT. THIRD PARTY'S ALLOWED TO COME IN AND TURN KEY A PROJECT FOR YOU.

TO PLAN IT, TO FINANCE IT, TO HIRE THE CONSTRUCTION.

IT REALLY SHORT CIRCUITS THE PROCESS BECAUSE NOW THERE'S NO COMPETITIVE PROCUREMENT FOR YOUR CONTRACT OR THINGS LIKE THAT.

ONCE YOU GO THROUGH THE COMPETITIVE PROCUREMENT TO CHOOSE THAT PERSON, THEY COME WITH YOU.

THEY PRESENT A PLAN THAT PENCILS OUT.

THE WHOLE IDEA IS, THEY BUILD THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND THEY FINANCED THE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR YOU AND YOUR OFFSET IN THE ELECTRICAL BILLS PAYS YOUR DEBT SERVICE BACK, SO IT'S A ZERO SUM GAME.

I LOOKED BACK AT OUR LAST NG PROJECT AND I LOOKED AT THE TREND OVER THE LAST YEAR, AND IT'S TRENDING NOT AS GREAT AS THEY SAID IT WAS GOING TO TREND AT THE BEGINNING, BUT NONETHELESS, IT DEPENDS A LITTLE BIT ON WHAT THE UTILITY RATES REALLY GO UP, BUT WE'RE ABOUT BREAKING EVEN NOW, IN FACT, MAYBE SAVING A LITTLE BIT.

BUT WE HAVE TO REMEMBER, IT'S NOT APPLES AND ORANGES.

WHEN WE DID THAT NG PROJECT, WE THREW IN A LOT OF INFRASTRUCTURE, LIKE ALL THE HVAC ON TOP OF THIS BUILDING.

ABOUT A MILLION BUCKS WORTH, WE REPLACED ALL OF THAT.

THAT WAS INCLUDED IN THE PROJECT.

WE DID SOME HVAC REPLACEMENTS ON SOME OTHER FACILITIES.

SO WE DID MORE THAN JUST CREATE SOLAR.

THE CEO AT THE TIME THOUGHT, HEY, HERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO REPLACE A LOT OF INFRASTRUCTURE.

THAT IS NOT FACTORING INTO OUR SAVINGS THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO REPLACE THOSE NOW.

IT'S ABOUT BREAKING EVEN.

BUT AGAIN, I'M NOT SAYING TODAY THAT I'M LOOKING FOR SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO WORK.

I JUST WANT THE OPPORTUNITY TO APPROACH THAT AND TO SEE IF IT WOULD PENCIL OUT.

IF IT DOESN'T PENCIL OUT, WE WON'T BRING IT TO THE BOARD.

NONETHELESS, IT'S SOMETHING THAT PIECE DOESN'T HAVE TO BE DECIDED TODAY.

WHAT I'M RECOMMENDING HERE IS LET'S MAKE A DECISION TO PUT A PARKING LOT UP, MOVE FORWARD WITH THE IR, AND I LOOKED BACK.

I HAD A LOFTY GOAL TO HAVE THIS THING DEMOLISHED AND DONE BY DECEMBER 2026.

I THINK I MIGHT BE ABLE TO STILL MAKE IT.

WITH THAT, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTION.

>> ALL RIGHT. WE'LL TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT JUST TO GET THIS MOVING.

I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE STOP LOOKING AT OTHER OPTIONS, MOVE TOWARDS THE RFP FOR DEMOLITION AND THEN SOLICIT SOLAR OPTIONS.

THAT'S MY MOTION. BASICALLY WHAT TROY JUST SAID OR ASKED FOR.

WE HAVE A SECOND BY SUPERVISOR HARMON.

PUBLIC COMMENT, MS. LIGATURE?

>> YES.

>> MR. CHAIRMAN. I JUST WANT TO BE SURE.

THERE'S ALREADY BEEN A MOTION AS FAR AS DEMOLITION.

I THINK YOU MIGHT HAVE MEANT TO SAY TO BUILD TO HAVE IT BECOME A PARKING LOT.

>> YEAH.

>> SURE, SO YOU MAY WANT TO CLARIFY THAT.

>> YES. I I'LL AMEND MY MOTION TO THE PARKING LOT PARK AND NOT THE DEMOLITION. WHAT TO BE PUBLIC COMMENT?

>> JUST ONE QUESTION.

>> ALL RIGHT. BUT SUPERVISOR LONG'S IN QUEUE.

SUPERVISOR LONG WILL GO FIRST, YOU'RE IN QUEUE.

SUPERVISOR HARMON, WILL GO SECOND.

WELL, I MEAN, I WANT TO RESPECT THE BOARD, IF THE BOARD WOULD LIKE TO ASK QUESTIONS BEFORE PUBLIC COMMENT. SUPERVISOR LONG.

>> THANK YOU, CHAIR.

TROY, YOU AND I TALKED ABOUT THIS, YES.

WHOLE DISCUSSION IN GREAT DETAIL.

>>THAT'S WHY I WENT AND LOOKED UP THE DATA YESTERDAY BECAUSE YOU MENTIONED THAT. I APPRECIATE THAT.

>> I APPRECIATE THAT. I DO ENJOY THE DATA.

ONE THING I DID NOT NOTICE IN THIS PRESENTATION, WHAT WILL THE PARKING LOT COST?

>> LET'S SEE, A GOOD QUESTION.

THE ENTIRE PROJECT FOR DEMO AND PARKING LOT.

BACK IN MARCH, I HAD THE PARKING LOT CONSTRUCTION IS 1.7 MILLION.

THE DEMOLITION IS 5.3 MILLION, SO ABOUT $7,000,000 FOR THE DEMO AND THE PARKING LOT.

>> BECAUSE I REMEMBER AT THE TIME WHEN WE VOTED, WE WERE GOING TO TURN IT INTO A DIRT LOT AND THEN TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WE WANTED TO RE-PURPOSE IT AS, THAT'S CORRECT? FIVE.

>> YES, THAT WOULD BE 5.37.

>> MY QUESTION IS, I THINK WHAT YOU WERE SAYING WAS THAT THE PARKING LOT GOING IN WOULD BE A GOOD INTERMEDIARY BECAUSE IT WOULD REDUCE THE NUMBER OF EIRS THAT YOU HAVE TO COMPLETE?

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>> I WOULD ALMOST SAY EIR, I'D SAY ENVIRONMENTAL STUDY OR PROCESS.

I DOUBT IF WE HAD HAD THE PARKING LOT BUILT, OR IF WE DIDN'T, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A FULL-BLOWN EIR AGAIN, BUT THERE WILL BE THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROCESS, THE MITIGATED DECK.

THERE WILL BE A COST AND TIME ASSOCIATED WITH IT, YES.

>> THEN YOU HAD TOLD ME ABOUT NG, WHICH BECAME OTERA.

>> YES.

>> ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THIS, I'M GOING TO THROW A CURVEBALL AT YOU, BUT THEY DECLARED BANKRUPTCY.

>> I DIDN'T KNOW THAT. YEAH. WELL, NG DID OR OTA [LAUGHTER].

>> IT MIGHT BE NG.

>> I THINK THAT'S OTERA.

>> THEY REBRANDED. MY WHOLE POINT WAS, I SERVED ON A SCHOOL BOARD, AND WE DEALT WITH SOLAR ISSUES, AND THEY MAKE ALL KINDS OF PROMISES.

>> UP FRONT, AND WE WERE HAVING TROUBLE REALIZING THE SAVINGS THAT HAD BEEN PROMISED.

BECAUSE IT'S SUCH A VOLATILE INDUSTRY, THEY WERE GONE WHEN WE TRIED TO HOLD THE ORIGINAL VENDOR ACCOUNTABLE.

IT CAN BECOME PROBLEMATIC WHEN YOU GO TO HOLD THEM TO THEIR.

WE WERE GOING TO PURSUE LEGAL ACTION TO SAY, WE NEED A SUBSIDY BECAUSE OUR ENERGY SAVINGS ARE NOT WHAT YOU PROMISED.

THEN THEY WERE GONE. WE CAME TO THE END OF THE ROAD.

THAT'S ONE OF THE PROBLEMS WITH THE SOLAR INDUSTRY IS THAT THEY TURN OVER RAPIDLY.

THEY GO BANKRUPT, AND THERE'S A LOT OF FALSE PROMISES, IF YOU WILL.

OF SAVINGS THAT YOU'RE GOING IN, IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY ALWAYS PENCIL OUT.

THAT HAVING BEEN SAID, MY QUESTION AS WELL WOULD BE IF WE'RE PUTTING AN INTERMEDIATE AREA PARKING LOT SO THAT WE COULD TEAR THAT OUT AND REPURPOSE TO WHATEVER WE WANT DOWN THE ROAD.

IT'S LIKE THE LEAST COST TO JUST COMPLETE THIS ENVIRONMENTAL STUDY, AS YOU MENTIONED, AND GET SOMETHING IN THERE.

CORRECT. IT MAY NOT BE A LONG-LASTING PROJECT.

MY QUESTION THEN WOULD BE, AND I'M NOT SURE IF I TALKED TO YOU ABOUT THIS YESTERDAY.

IS IT WISE TO INVEST IN A SOLAR PROJECT? BECAUSE THE ONE YOU'RE DESCRIBING WAS VERY DIFFERENT, WHICH HAD HVAC SYSTEMS TIED IN WITH THE SOLAR, AND YOU REALIZED ALL THAT THOSE WERE REPLACED UNDER THE ENERGY PROJECT AND ALL THAT STUFF, WHICH MADE IT COST-NEUTRAL? BEFORE WE GET TOO FAR DOWN THIS ROAD, DO WE WANT TO INVEST A LOT IN A SOLAR PROJECT, KNOWING THAT THE UNDERLYING CONSTRUCTION PROJECT, THE PARKING LOT, MAY NOT BE AROUND FOR A WHILE? I'D HATE TO GET INTO SOMETHING.

THEN TWO YEARS FROM NOW, THE BOARD DECIDES THAT, HEY, WE WANT FILL IN THE BLANK REPURPOSING FOR THIS AREA, WHICH COULD BE ACROSS THE BOARD IF WE FORM A COMMITTEE AND HAVE THAT DISCUSSED AND FIGURE OUT WHAT THE PUBLIC WANTS, AND WHAT IS MOST SUITABLE FOR THAT AREA? NOW WE'RE TEARING OUT THE PARKING LOT.

NOW WE'VE GOT TO TEAR OUT THE WHOLE SOLAR PROJECT THAT'S TIED WITH IT, AND I CAN'T IMAGINE BECAUSE SOME OF THESE PROJECTS.

>> SOME OF THESE SOLAR THINGS, SUPERVISOR LONG, I BELIEVE, COULD PAY FOR HELP PAY FOR THE PROJECT.

CORRECT, TROY?

>> AS SUPERVISOR LONG SAYS, IT'S NOT AS PROFITABLE AS IT USED TO BE, BUT I WANT TO BACKTRACK A LITTLE BIT.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO SAY. PAT OURSELVES ON THE BACK, BUT WE EVALUATED THE DATA, AND PUBLIC WORKS LOOKED AT IT, NODA LOOKED AT IT, HER OFFICE LOOKED AT IT, AND WE DID QUESTION AND HAD THEM REFINE THEIR NUMBERS.

I'M NOT SAYING THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED AT THE SCHOOL BOARD, BUT I AM SAYING WE DIDN'T JUST TAKE WHAT THEY SAID AS BASE VALUE.

SMART. WE KNEW I WASN'T GOING TO BE AS GREAT AS THEY SAID, BUT WE'RE BREAKING EVEN.

NOW, TO YOUR POINT ABOUT CONSTRUCTING THE SOLAR.

I'M NOT SAYING TODAY WE DO IT.

I'M JUST SAYING, GIVE ME THE OPPORTUNITY.

I'LL LOOK, AND I'LL BRING IT BACK, AND YOU'RE RIGHT.

IF WE DO HAVE ANOTHER IDEA, THE SOLAR ARRAY IS GOING TO BE IN THE WAY.

I JUST WITH THE WAY FUNDS ARE RIGHT NOW AND HOW WE DON'T WANT TO COMPETE FOR, I'M GUESSING HERE.

I'M GUESSING WE'RE NOT GOING TO WANT TO EXPEND FUNDS, AND THIS PARKING LOT IS PROBABLY GOING TO BE THERE FOR A LONG TIME.

THAT'S JUST TROY'S OPINION.

I'M NOT SAYING THAT'S WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.

>> HOW LONG DID YOU WORK FOR THE COUNTY?

>> THIRTY-FIVE YEARS.

>> IN THIS DEPARTMENT?

>> THIRTY-FIVE YEARS.

>> PRETTY GOOD OPINION.

>> [LAUGHTER] THANK YOU.

>> WELL, LET'S BE HONEST.

I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER POTENTIAL TO SOLAR, WHICH WOULD BE EV CHARGING STATIONS, AND IT CAN GET INVOLVED WITH WHAT YOU CAN SERVICE OUT OF THAT.

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I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE TIMING OF IT.

MY QUESTION TO YOU WOULD BE, IF WE HAVE THIS DISCUSSION A YEAR FROM NOW, IS IT GOING TO MATTER IF WE PUT UP THE PARKING LOT TO COMPLY WITH THE EIR AND THE ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT? THEN WE DEAL LATER WITH THE IDEA OF BECAUSE YOU DESCRIBED IT AS I COULDN'T QUITE PICTURE, BUT, LIKE, CANOPIES.

>> LIKE OVER AT THE DA.

>> IT'S A CARPORT?

>> YEAH, BASICALLY A CARPORT.

>> YEAH. BECAUSE THEY HAVE A CARPORT STRUCTURE AND ALL THE SOLAR PANELS AND I.

>> THE PARKING LOT AND THE SOLAR RAY, THEY COULD BE TWO INDEPENDENT THEY THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE MARRIED TO EACH OTHER.

THEY COULD BE TWO INDEPENDENT PROJECT IDEAS.

>> RIGHT. THANK YOU.

>> SUPERVISOR HARMON.

>> HARMON?

>> YES.

>> I RECOGNIZE YOU. EVERYTHING'S ABOUT MONEY, AS YOU KNOW.

THAT'S WHAT EVERYBODY'S CONCERNED.

BUT JUST BEFORE THE PUBLIC COMMENTS AND WE MAKE A DECISION, CAN YOU REMIND US THE COST, THE ONGOING COST?

>> TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY THOUSAND.

>> UTILITIES, MAINTENANCE, INSURANCE, LIABILITY?

>> FIFTEEN AND TWENTY THOUSAND OF THE COURTHOUSE SITTING EMPTY RIGHT NOW? MONTH.

>> A MONTH?

>> YES.

>> MINIMUM 250.

>> I JUST THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR EVERYBODY TO REMEMBER THAT'S PART OF THE PROBLEM.

>> YEAH. SUPERVISOR PLUMMER?

>> TO CLARIFY, WERE YOU SAYING THAT WE'LL HAVE TO LEAVE THE OLD JAIL OR THAT WE'RE NOT?

>> I NO.

THERE ARE SEVERAL MITIGATIONS, THERE ARE POSSIBILITIES.

ONE IS THERE'S A FANCY NAME IT'S QUITE EXPENSIVE.

LET ME SEE WHAT THEY CALLED IT.

HISTORIC AMERICAN BUILDING SURVEY AND BASIC RESEARCH ASSOCIATES.

YOU DO THIS FANCY THING AND DOCUMENT IT AND PUT IT OUT IN HISTORY AND ALL THIS? THERE'S MITIGATIONS WE CAN DO.

THE SIMPLEST ONE IS TO LEAVE IT AND DON'T TOUCH IT.

THE MORE EXPENSIVE, MORE COMPLEX ONE, AND I'VE MENTIONED THAT THEY HAVE A PRICE FOR IT.

NOW THAT'S ABOUT $100,000 TO DO THAT.

ANOTHER OPTION IS TO ERECT A MONUMENT.

BUT THESE ARE ALL THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO PRESENT THROUGH THE EIR PROCESS, TO VET, AND TO GIVE THE PUBLIC AN OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE THEIR OPINIONS.

BY NO MEANS DOES IT HAVE TO STAY THERE.

THERE'S MULTIPLE OPTIONS, SOME ARE MORE EXPENSIVE THAN OTHERS.

>> THE BOARD APPROVED THE DEMO OF THE OLD JAIL, AS WELL AS THE OLD COURTHOUSE AND THE ATRIUM, CORRECT?

>> CORRECT.

>> IF WE WERE TO AT THIS POINT, IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE YOU HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION TO KNOW WHICH OF THE PATHS WILL BE NECESSARY TO PURSUE WITH THE OLD JAIL.

THAT WOULD COME BACK IF YOU ENDED UP DETERMINING THAT THE BEST PATH IS TO KEEP IT UP. IS THAT.

>> YES, AND NO.

I MEAN, WE CAN DECIDE NOW.

YOU KNOW WHAT? I CAN'T SPEAK FOR SURE.

BUT TALKING TO THE CONSULTANT, WE CAN DO WHATEVER WE WANT.

IT'S JUST THE PATH FORWARD WILL GET MORE EXPENSIVE AND MORE DIFFICULT.

THERE'S A BETTER CHANCE OF THE HOLY YEAR PROCESS, IT'S NOT MAGIC.

IT'S JUST DOING OUR DUE DILIGENCE TO SAY, HEY, WE COVERED ALL THE BASES.

IT STILL DOESN'T MEAN WE CAN'T GET SUED IN THE FUTURE.

THIS IS JUST THE SAFEST PATH FORWARD.

WE'LL MAKE A DETERMINATION WHAT WE WANT TO DO, AND THEN WE'LL PROCEED WITH THAT.

>> THE FULL EIR WILL BASICALLY WHAT WE'VE I GUESS WHAT I'M WONDERING IS WHAT WE AUTHORIZED WAS THE FULL DEMO.

>> CORRECT.

>> I LIKE THAT THERE'S A POSSIBILITY THAT THAT MIGHT NOT END UP BEING THE BEST PATH?

>> IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE THE BEST PATH, I CAN TELL YOU.

BUT IF IT'S NOT, THEN YES, I'D HAVE TO COME BACK TO THE BOARD FOR PERMISSION TO DEVIATE FROM WHAT I WAS INSTRUCTED TO DO.

THEN THE SOLAR EXAMPLE THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WITH NG, HOW MANY YEARS ARE?

>> WOULD NECESSARILY BE NG WOULD BE WITH A COMPANY, HYPOTHETICALLY LIKE NG.

>> IN TERMS OF YOU WERE MENTIONING WHERE WE'RE AT, HOW MANY YEARS ARE WE INTO THAT?

>> IN TWO WITH NG. TURN IT.

I THINK IT'S FIVE YEARS IN.

IT'S BEEN TRENDING NOT AS GOOD AS THEY SAID IT WOULD, BUT WE'RE STILL BREAKING EVEN.

THEN, IF WE WERE TO DEMO THE WHOLE BUILDING AND THEN JUST PUT GRASS THERE, WOULD WE SAVE THE 1.6 MILLION?

>> YES.

>> THEN I WILL MAKE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION THAT WE AUTHORIZE A FULL DEMO AND JUST PUT GRASS THERE AND SAVE THE 1.6 MILLION.

>> CAN I ASK A QUESTION ABOUT YOUR MOTION? WOULD THAT BE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS, OR WOULD THAT COMPLY WITH THE ENVIRONMENTAL SURVEY THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, SUPPLEMENTAL TO THE EIR?

>> YES. BUT NOW, WE WON'T SPEND 1.6 MILLION TO BUILD THE PARKING LOT.

BUT TWO THINGS SHOULD WE DECIDE TO BUILD A PARKING LOT IN THE FUTURE, I'M GOING TO.

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>> SPRINKLERS. I GOT TO MOVE THE HOMELESS CAMP.

>> I'M GOING TO BRING EVERYTHING BACK UP.

I'M GOING TO BRING SOMETHING FORWARD TO SUPPORT THE GRASS.

I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH ANOTHER ENVIRONMENTAL PROCESS.

YES, IT'LL BE CHEAPER, BUT I DON'T THINK WE CAN COUNT ON THE FULL 1.6 MILLION.

ALSO, WHAT I FAILED TO MENTION IS THE PARKING LOT PROPOSAL.

OUR CONCEPT IS TO KEEP ALL THE GRASS AREA, TO KEEP THE MONUMENTS, TO KEEP THE HISTORICAL PRESERVATION, AND TO LEAVE ALL OF THAT THERE.

HAVE A LITTLE PARK ATMOSPHERE STILL.

IT WASN'T TO TAKE IT DOWN, BUT THERE WOULD STILL BE GRASS THERE.

BUT I JUST WANT TO REITERATE THAT YES WOULD BE CHEAPER, BUT THERE STILL BE A COST WITH GOING FORWARD WITH JUST PUTTING GRASS THERE.

>> IS THERE A SECOND SUPERVISOR, LUN?

>> WELL, CAN I ASK ANOTHER QUESTION, SUPERVISOR PLUMMER? YOU WERE LOOKING INTO GRANTS FOR PARK OPEN SPACES.

IS THERE ANY UPDATE ON THAT PROGRESS BECAUSE MAYBE THAT PART OF THE GRASS COULD BE FUNDED THROUGH GRANTS? YOU WERE GOING TO LOOK INTO THAT?

>> YEAH, I MEAN, IT SOUNDS LIKE WHAT TROY SAID EARLIER, IS THAT A LOT OF THEM ARE TIED TO THAT STAYING A PARK IN PERPETUITY.

>> IT'S GOT TO STAY LIKE THAT FEVER.

>> THAT'S THE CHALLENGE WITH A NUMBER OF THEM.

THERE MIGHT BE, BUT BOTH FOR MY OWN TIME, AND IT SOUNDS LIKE PUBLIC WORK TIME.

I HAVEN'T HAD THE TIME TO LIKE SPLICE ALL THE HAIRS TO FIGURE OUT IF THERE IS SOMETHING THAT WOULD ALLOW YOU TO MIGRATE AWAY FROM THAT OVER TIME, AND ALSO PAY FOR IT.

>> GOT IT. IT HANDCUFFS ANY BOARD IN THE FUTURE TO EVER DO ANYTHING ELSE WITH IT.

IT'S LIKE OUR STREETS.

I MEAN, WE DON'T HAVE GREAT ROADS, SO WE TAKE. FIX OUR ROADS.

INSTEAD OF THREE LANES.

NOW WE HAVE A SEGUE LANE AND A BIKE LANE AND A SKATEBOARD LANE, AND WE HAVE ONE LANE.

>> WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE CITY, CORRECT?

>> YEAH, EXACTLY. YEAH, I KNOW.

IS THERE A SECOND SUPERVISOR ALONG? CUSTOMER.

>> HAVE A LITTLE MORE DISCUSSION.

>> FAILS FOR LACK OF A SECOND.

WELL, NO.

>> YOU SECOND IT?

>> I'LL SECOND. FOR THE PURPOSE OF A DISCUSSION.

>> WORTH IT, SORRY, GO AHEAD.

>> I KNOW YOU CAN'T GIVE US AN ESTIMATE.

I WANT A COUPLE OF NUMBERS TO TRY TO PUT THIS IF WE WERE TO GET A SOLAR PROJECT THAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT.

YOU SAID THAT THEY MAKE IT COST-NEUTRAL TO US.

THEY COVER EVERYTHING.

DOES THAT INCLUDE IF WE BAIL OUT OF A 2030-YEAR CONTRACT EARLY? OR IS THAT SO, LET'S SAY WE JUMP OUT OF THIS IN TWO YEARS DOWN THE ROAD, ARE WE GOING TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR COSTS?

>> IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT WE OWN THE INFRASTRUCTURE.

IT'S FINANCE THEY SET UP THE FINANCING FOR YOU.

NOW, WITH NG OR OTERO NOW, THEY'RE ON THE HOOK.

THEY COME BACK ANNUALLY TO DO CLEANING INSPECTIONS.

WE DO HAVE A FEW OF THEM THAT ARE FAILING, AND THEY'RE REPAIRING UNDER WARRANTY.

THEY'RE UNDER CONTRACT.

I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S THE FULL 30 YEARS OF THE FINANCING, BUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS OURS.

THEY MAINTAIN IT. BUT WHAT THEY SET UP IS THE FINANCING, AND WE REPAY IT.

>> IF WE DON'T AMORTIZE IT OVER, OR WE DON'T PAY IT OFF OVER THE 20 YEAR PERIOD, I WOULD THINK, ESPECIALLY IF WE'VE GOT EQUIPMENT PURCHASES, WE WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE COST OF THAT SHORTAGE OF TIME REPAYING.

>> DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? I'M MISSING.

>> WE HAVE A DEBT SERVICE FOR 30 YEARS TO PAY FOR WHAT WE BOUGHT.

>> IF WE HAVE A DEBT SERVICE FOR 30 YEARS AND WE BAIL OUT AND WE TEAR ALL THE EQUIPMENT OUT A YEAR.

>>DEBTS STILL THERE.

>> THE DEBT'S STILL THERE. THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO [OVERLAPPING] ESTABLISH IS THE FACT THAT IT SOUNDS GREAT THAT THEY ARE WILLING TO ENCOMPASS AND MAKE IT SHOVEL-READY, AND WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A PENNY OUT OF GENERAL FUND RIGHT NOW.

HOWEVER, IF WE DON'T GO FOR THE 30-YEAR CONTRACT, WE'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR WHATEVER WAS NOT PAID THROUGH THE AMORTIZATION PROCESS.

I'M PROBABLY NOT ASKING THE QUESTION.

>> RIGHT WAY. YEAH.

>> WE HAVE AN EQUIPMENT PURCHASE.

WE'RE PAYING FOR IT OVER TIME.

IF WE SHORTEN THE PERIOD OF TIME, WE'VE ONLY PAID BACK PART OF THE PURCHASE.

WE'RE ON THE HOOK FOR THE REST OF THE PURCHASE THAT WE DON'T AMORTIZE ANYMORE, BECAUSE WE CONTINUE TO MAKE PAYMENTS.

>> ARE YOU GOT TO MAKE PAYMENTS?

>> YEAH. BRUCE R, SENIOR ADMINISTRATIVE ANALYST, JUST TO TALK ABOUT THAT, WE WOULD STILL BE MAKING PAYMENTS EVERY MONTH.

WE JUST WOULDN'T SEE THE SAVINGS BECAUSE OUR PAYMENTS ARE MADE OUT OF THE SAVINGS FROM THE ENERGY COSTS.

IF WE WERE TO RIP OUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE, IT'S STILL OURS.

WE JUST THE PAYMENT THE FUNDING FOR THAT WOULD HAVE TO COME FROM OTHER SOME OTHER SOURCE RATHER THAN THE ENERGY SAVINGS FROM THE SOLAR.

>> THANK YOU. THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO ASK IN MY.

>> I WAS GOING TO ADD ONE THING. I LOOKED UP AFTER YOU MENTIONED NG.

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THEY WERE ACQUIRED AND THEN BRANDED AND RELAUNCHED THIS YEAR. YEAH. CORRECT.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, BRYCE. THE LAST QUESTION I HAVE FOR YOU, TROY, IS, I KNOW YOU CAN'T ESTIMATE, BUT I'M DYING FOR SOME NUMBERS BEFORE I DECIDE WHAT COURSE OF ACTION I WANT TO TAKE HERE ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT TO GO OUT FOR RFP, BECAUSE I MAY NOT BE IN FAVOR OF THAT.

WHAT COULD YOU GIVE A GUESTIMATE TO WHAT SUPERVISOR PLUMMER'S MOTION WOULD COST IF WE JUST LAWN THE AREA IN AS A STOPGAP MEASURE? OH, BOY.

>> JUST GIVE ME SOMETHING BECAUSE I KNOW THE 16 IS THE PARKING LOT, BUT WHAT IS THE.

>> OH, CRIME GRADING, IRRIGATION, STING? OH, LET ME SEE. I KNOW WHAT A FOOTBALL FIELD COSTS.

>> WE HAVE VOLUNTEERS THAT CUT THE GRASS AND MAINTAIN IT, OR DO WE PAY PEOPLE TO DO THAT?

>> WE PAY PEOPLE TO DO.

>> LET'S GO AHEAD AND THROW THAT INTO THE NUMBER.

>> MAN, I WOW.

LET'S JUST SAY FOR 10 YEARS.

>> WELL, ON THE FLY.

HERE'S THE ONLY THING ON THE FLY, I CAN TELL YOU.

WHEN THEY PUT TURF IN FOR THE FOOTBALL FIELD AT THE LOCAL HIGH SCHOOLS.

THIS WAS 10 YEARS AGO, 15 YEARS AGO THE FIRST TIME THEY DID IT.

THE WATERING, MAINTENANCE, AND SAVINGS, THESE FIELDS WERE ABOUT BACK THEN, IT WAS A LOT OF MONEY.

CRA WAS 20 YEARS AGO.

IT WAS ABOUT 1 MILLION BUCKS.

IT WAS 10 YEARS TO GET BACK TURF FIELD LASTED 10 YEARS, SO THAT WAS 100 GRAND A YEAR, 10 YEARS AGO.

LET'S SAY, CRIME IN.

LET'S FAST FORWARD NOW TO 20 YEARS. I DON'T KNOW.

WHAT'S THAT PUT ME AT SIX $700,000, AND THIS IS A GUESS.

>> OH, I WOULDN'T EXPECT ANYTHING OTHER THAN THE.

>> [LAUGHTER].

>> SWAG. YEAH.

>> MAYBE HALF THE COST OF THE PARK ROUGHLY.

>> PLEASE DON'T PRINT THAT AND TELL EVERYBODY I MADE A MISTAKE.

>> NO, YOU'RE JUST HELPING FROM NOW.

>> I'M UP WITH THE CONCEPT.

>> YES.

>> THANK YOU. IF IT'S HALF THE COST, I'LL WITHDRAW MY SUBSTITUTION.

>> THANK YOU, SUPERVISOR PLUMMER.

TROY, LET'S BE HONEST, YOU COULD REMEMBER YOUR RECORD PROBABLY THAT YEAR, BUT YOU CAN'T REMEMBER THE EXACT COST.

>> IT WAS A GOOD YEAR.

>> YOU WERE TALKING RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY ONE THING.

>> OF COURSE YOU DO.

>> BECAUSE YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT ARTIFICIAL TURF OR GRASS.

>> ARTIFICIAL TURF. IT WAS TALKING ABOUT THE COST.

IT WAS 100% THE NET ZERO COST OF WHAT IT WOULD BE.

>> IT TOOK IT 10 YEARS OF MAINTENANCE TO PAY FOR THE FIELD.

THAT'S HOW THE SCHOOLS JUSTIFIED IT.

I'M NOT SAYING IT WAS TRUE, BUT THAT WE GOT TURF FIELDS.

>> I WANTED TO PUT THIS ON CONSENT.

PUBLIC COMMENT, MS. BLANKENSHIP.

THANK YOU, MR. BARTOLOMEI.

BRYCE, RITCHIE, SENIOR ANALYST.

>> WE HAVE FIVE REQUESTS TO SPEAK.

FIRST UP, DOLORES LUCERO, FOLLOWED BY ANTONIA, THEN BENJAMIN NOWAIN, LAURA HOBBS, DAVID HALLIGAN.

IF I CALLED YOUR NAME, PLEASE GET AND QUEUE.

>> IT SEEMS EVERY ITEM THAT YOU SOMETIMES YOUR NAME'S ON THERE, KEVIN.

IT'S ALWAYS, LIKE I SAID BEFORE.

THERE'S RED FLAGS.

I JUST THINK THAT KNOCKING DOWN THIS BUILDING AND PUTTING A PARKING LOT? ARE YOU KIDDING ME? WHY NOT PUT THE ELECTION DEPARTMENT RIGHT NEXT DOOR? WE GOT PLENTY OF PARKING DOWN THE STREET AND UP RIGHT HERE.

WHY DO WE NEED ANOTHER PARKING LOT.

STOP SMILING WHEN PEOPLE COME UP HERE.

YOU AS A CHAIR DISRESPECTFUL.

WHY DON'T WE PUT THE ELECTION DEPARTMENT NEXT DOOR, THEN DOWNSTAIRS, MAKE IT THE ELECTION, SO WE KEEP AN EYE ON THE GUY WHO ACTUALLY KNOWS HOW TO FLIP THE VOTES.

WHO'S GOING TO KEEP AN EYE ON HIM? WHY NOT MAKE UPSTAIRS, WHERE ALL HIS FRIENDS WHO ARE HE'S HIRING DEMOCRATS UPSTAIRS, THEIR ATTORNEYS, MAKE IT A A LAW FIRM UPSTAIRS.

DOWNSTAIRS, THE ELECTION.

WHY DO WE NEED MORE PARKING LOTS? HE WANTS TO TAKE A SHORTCUT.

JUST GO AHEAD AND KNOCK DOWN THE BUILDING, WORRY ABOUT THE COSTS AND THE REST OF THE BILLING.

IT'S RIDICULOUS.

ALL THESE DECISIONS THAT YOU MAKE THAT YOU BRING WHEN YOUR NAME'S ON IT.

WHO'S GOING TO KEEP AN EYE ON THE ELECTION? ARE WE GOING TO HAVE CAMERAS OVER THERE? WHY NOT USE THAT BUILDING FOR THAT GOOD PURPOSE OF THE ELECTION? YOU DON'T MAKE SENSE, KEVIN. YOU KNOW THAT? YOU DON'T MAKE SENSE AT ALL.

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IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY, SAY IT.

DON'T WAIT UNTIL I WALK AWAY.

YOU DON'T MAKE COMMON SENSE AT ALL IN YOUR DECISIONS. I'M SERIOUS.

OUR COUNTY IS LOOKING WORSE AND WORSE EVERY TIME.

YOU DIDN'T WANT THIS BUILDING TO BE KNOCKED DOWN, CHRIS.

HOW COME, YOU'RE NOT FIGHTING FOR IT? WHY NOT PUT THE ELECTION IN THERE? IT'S A GOOD, SOLID BUILDING.

THAT BUILDING PROBABLY WILL HOLD BETTER THAN THE ONE ACROSS THE STREET, THE COURTHOUSE.

THAT ONE ALREADY HAS PROBLEMS. WATER LEAKING AND EVERYTHING.

THAT'S A SOLID BUILDING.

THAT SHOULD BE USED FOR SOMETHING.

I THINK IT'S GOING TO LOOK STUPID WHEN YOU PUT A PARKING LOT THERE AND YOU'RE GOING TO LET THE ELECTION GO ALL THE WAY IN THE OTHER SIDE OF TOWN WHERE NOBODY'S KEEPING AN EYE ON THE GUY WHO ACTUALLY IS A HACKER WHO ACTUALLY COULD FLIP THE VOTES.

I THINK THAT BUILDING IS PERFECT FOR THAT GUY.

SOMEBODY OUGHT TO KEEP AN EYE ON HIM.

[APPLAUSE]

>> JUST TO CLARIFY FOR THE PUBLIC.

THE BOARD ALREADY VOTED MONTHS AGO TO BRING THE BUILDING DOWN.

THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY.

JUST TO HELP PEOPLE AS THEY COME UP, THAT BUILDING'S COMING DOWN.

THE BOARD'S ALREADY VOTED ON THAT. JUST TO HELP PEOPLE.

>> NEXT UP, ANTONIA FOLLOWED BY BENJAMIN NOWAIN.

LAURA HOBBS AND DAVID HALLIGAN.

>> APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU.

>> ANTONIA PASSES. BENJAMIN NOWAIN, COME ON UP.

>> WELCOME.

>> THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO SAY, I DON'T ALWAYS WANT TO COME UP HERE AND BE OPPOSITIONAL.

WHEN I COME TO THE PODIUM, IT MIGHT SEEM THAT WAY SOMETIMES, AND IT'S BECAUSE THE ITEMS I'M COMPELLED TO SPEAK ON ARE USUALLY CONTROVERSIAL ITEMS, THINGS THAT I REALLY DON'T AGREE WITH BOARD MAJORITY ON, BUT I WANT TO SAY FOR THIS PARTICULAR ITEM, I DO AGREE WITH CHAIR CRYE.

AS MUCH AS MANY OF US WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE OLD COURTHOUSE REVITALIZED, REPURPOSED OR RESTORED INTO SOMETHING THAT CARRIES FORWARD ITS HISTORY, THE REALITY IS THAT IT JUST ISN'T IN THE CARDS.

THE BUILDING HAS SAT FOR TOO LONG AND THE COST OF RETROFITTING AND REUSE ARE JUST BEYOND WHAT THE COUNTY CAN MANAGE.

THE LONGER IT SITS, THE MORE OF A LIABILITY IT BECOMES.

WHILE IT'S NOT EASY TO SAY GOODBYE TO A STRUCTURE THAT HOLDS HISTORY, I UNDERSTAND AND AGREE WITH THE DEMOLITION IS THE ONLY VIABLE CHOICE AND THANK YOU.

I SUPPORT WHATEVER CHOICE YOU ULTIMATELY MAKE, IT IS FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE.

>>> THANK YOU.

>> LAURA HOBBS, FOLLOWED BY DAVID HALLIGAN.

>> WELCOME.

>> THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING.

I JUST WANT TO GO OVER THE NUMBERS HERE.

TO KEEP THIS VACANT, IT'S 15 TO 20,000 A MONTH.

IF WE DID THAT FOR 20 YEARS, KEEPING IT VACANT AND PAYING THAT AMOUNT, IT STILL WOULDN'T EVEN EQUAL $5 MILLION WHICH IS WHAT THEY'RE SAYING, IT'S GOING TO COST TO TEAR IT DOWN.

I'M CONCERNED BECAUSE I FEEL THAT YOU'VE GIVEN TROY MORE CREDENCE THAN THE PUBLIC IN MAKING THE DECISION ABOUT WHAT TO DO WITH THIS.

I FEEL LIKE YOU NEED TO REPRESENT THE PEOPLE OF THIS COUNTY, NOT THE BUREAUCRACY.

I PERSONALLY DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM PARKING DOWNTOWN.

I ALWAYS FIND A SPOT RIGHT HERE IN THE PARKING STRUCTURE AND IF I HAVE TO, I MIGHT HAVE TO WALK FOR ONE BLOCK.

IT'S NOT A BIG DEAL.

COUNTY WORKERS WANT MORE PARKING, BUT THE PUBLIC DOESN'T REALLY FEEL THAT NEED.

I THINK THIS IS A PUBLIC SPACE, AND YOU SHOULD TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE PUBLIC'S OPINION ON WHAT HAPPENS WITH IT GOING FORWARD.

CLINT CURTIS, FOR INSTANCE, SAID THAT HE COULD UTILIZE THE ANNEX BUILDING FOR THE ELECTIONS.

HE WOULD BE CENTRAL AND THE CENTRAL LOCATION HERE.

I THINK THAT WE SHOULD CONSIDER, I THINK YOU NEED TO BRING IT BACK TO THE TABLE HONESTLY AND MAKE IT A PUBLIC HEARING WHERE THE PUBLIC CAN ACTUALLY WEIGH IN ON THIS BECAUSE THIS IS OUR SPACE.

IF THE ANNEX BUILDING COULD ACTUALLY FULFILL ALL OF CLINT CURTIS' NEEDS, THAT WOULD BE THE FINANCIALLY AND FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE DECISION TO MAKE.

INSTEAD OF TRYING TO GO TO AN OUTSIDE LOCATION AND TRYING TO LEASE SOMETHING AND RENT SOMETHING.

LIVING WITHIN YOUR MEANS REQUIRES REPURPOSING EXISTING BUILDINGS RATHER THAN SPENDING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO DEMOLISH PERFECTLY GOOD BUILDINGS.

I REALLY WANT THIS TO BE REVISITED BY THE BOARD.

I THINK YOU SHOULD HAVE PUT IT IN A PUBLIC HEARING FORMAT, HERE FROM EVERYBODY IN THE COMMUNITY, NOT JUST ME, NOT JUST A COUPLE OF OTHER PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE TODAY.

BECAUSE THIS IS A BIG DECISION.

SPENDING $5 MILLION TO DEMOLISH A PERFECTLY GOOD BUILDING IS NOT A WISE DECISION IN MY OPINION.

AS FAR AS THE SOLAR PANEL, I ACTUALLY AGREE WITH SUPERVISOR LONG.

I THINK A LOT OF THESE SOLAR COMPANIES THEY ENTRAP YOU INTO THESE LONG CONTRACTS,

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I WOULD BE LEERY TO MOVE FORWARD ON ANYTHING.

I DO LIKE THE IDEA OF HAVING A PARK THERE AT THE MINIMUM.

I PERSONALLY WANT YOU TO RETAIN THAT SPACE AS A BUILDING FOR ANYONE IN THE COUNTY WHO WANTS TO USE IT.

AS LONG AS YOU DON'T REMODEL IT, THERE'S NO WORRY ABOUT THE ASBESTOS AND ALL THAT STUFF.

JUST KEEP IT AS IT IS AND UTILIZE IT.

THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE]

>> THANK YOU.

>> DAVID HALLIGAN, AND THAT'S OUR LAST SPEAKER.

>> HELLO.

>> THANK YOU, BOARD. I'M FOR THE BUILDING TO COME DOWN, BUT ONLY IF YOU HAVE A PLAN, AND WE REALLY DON'T SEEM TO HAVE A PLAN.

WHAT'S THE PURPOSE? MISS HOBBS, $5 MILLION TO TAKE IT DOWN WITHOUT A PLAN.

I REALIZE WE'VE GOT A MONTHLY COST FOR WHETHER IT'S INSURANCE OR MAINTENANCE AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS, BUT TO PUT IN RIGHT NOW A PARKING LOT, AND THANK YOU, MR. LONG FOR BRINGING IT UP.

IT WASN'T IN THE STAFF REPORT ON WHAT THE COSTS WERE.

THE LAST TIME WE WENT THROUGH THIS, THE STAFF REPORT WAS AWESOME.

1.7 MILLION DOLLAR TO PUT A PARKING LOT IN FOR 102 PARKING SPACES.

THAT'S $16,600 A PARKING SPOT WHEN WE DON'T NEED THEM.

THE LAST TIME I SPOKE TO ALL OF YOU ABOUT THIS SUBJECT WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT IT, I WENT OUT TO THE PARKING LOT STRUCTURE, AND I COUNTED ALL THE PARKING SPOTS AT 9:30 IN THE MORNING.

THERE WERE OVER 50 OF THEM THAT WERE AVAILABLE.

GUESS WHAT? TODAY I DID THE SAME STUDY.

I WENT OUT AT 10:00 THIS MORNING, AND THERE WERE 13 METERS PARKING SPOTS, AND THERE WERE 42 PERMIT PARKING SPOTS, WHICH I ASSUME ARE FOR OUR COUNTY EMPLOYEES.

I THINK WE NEED TO GET THIS REPORT DONE, BUT WHOEVER WE SOLICIT FOR IT, THEY SHOULD ALSO ASK TO BID FOR AN OPTION FOR A SECOND REPORT AT A LATER TIME.

BUT AGAIN, THE COST WOULDN'T BE THAT MUCH.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE COST ON IT, BUT IF THEY'VE ALREADY DONE THE FIRST ONE, THE SECOND ONE IS AN OPTION THAT ONE, TWO, THREE BIDS THAT YOU PUT OUT WOULD MAYBE BID FOR.

I'M FOR IT COMING DOWN, BUT WE GOT TO HAVE A PLAN ON WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO WITH IT. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THAT WAS OUR LAST SPEAKER, CHAIR.

>> I HAVE A MOTION. IT'S BEEN SECONDED. SUPERVISOR LONG.

>> THANK YOU, CHAIR. TROY, COULD I ASK YOU ANOTHER QUESTION.

>> SURE.

>> THE LAST THING I WANT TO DO IS MAKE YOUR JOB MORE DIFFICULT.

>> THEN DON'T, PLEASE. [LAUGHTER]

>> I'M GOING TO ASK YOU FOR A QUALIFICATION AS TO THIS YOU SAID THIS IS NOT A FULL EIR.

HOWEVER, IF WE VOTE TO PUT THE PARKING LOT IN, THAT AVOIDS AN ASSESSMENT, I THINK YOU CALLED IT.

AN EXTRA DOCUMENTATION THAT YOU HAVE TO DO NOT A FULL EIR.

>> IT WOULD BE A SECOND ENVIRONMENTAL PROCESS.

I'D HAVE TO HIRE ANOTHER CONSULTANT TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS, BUT IT WOULDN'T BE AN EIR.

THAT'S LIKE THE CADILLAC OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROCESSES.

THAT'S VERY EXPENSIVE.

IT'D BE MORE IN YOUR 50 TO $100,000 RANGE.

IT'D BE AN ND DECK OR ENVIRONMENTAL STUDIES, SOMETHING OF THAT.

IT'S NOT GOING TO BE IF WE DIDN'T PUT THE PARKING LOT THERE.

WE'D GO THROUGH THAT AGAIN, WE'D TAKE MORE TIME, BUT IT WOULDN'T BE NEAR AS EXPENSIVE WHAT WE'RE PAYING NOW.

>> IF WE DON'T DO A PARKING LOT, THEN IT WOULD COST THE COUNTY UP TO $100,000?

>> FOR ALL THAT ASSESSMENT?

>> FOR THE NEXT ENVIRONMENTAL PROCESS.

AGAIN, THOUGH, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO SOMETHING, EROSION CONTROL, LAWN, SOMETHING, WE'LL HAVE TO SECURE THE SITE, BUT THERE'S OTHER COSTS, BUT YES, THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROCESS OFF TOP OF MY HEAD UP TO $100,000.

>> UP TO 100. THEN WHAT SOME OF OUR SPEAKER COMMENTS, I APPRECIATE DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES WHEN TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THIS SOLUTION, IF YOU WILL.

WHAT IS YOUR OPINION AS TO THE NEED FOR ADDITIONAL PARKING? I KNOW IT WOULD GIVE YOU 102 EXTRA SPACES.

BUT ONE SPEAKER TALKED ABOUT THERE'S VACANCY IN THE CURRENT PARKING STRUCTURE.

IS THAT BECAUSE IT'S A PAID PARKING IN OUR PARKING GARAGE WITH METERS? WOULD THIS BE FREE OF CHARGE FOR PEOPLE SO THEY WOULD BE MORE LIKELY TO USE IT OR WOULD THEY BE METERED?

>> THOSE ARE ALL DECISIONS THAT WOULD BE MADE.

I WAS ASSUMING IT WOULD BE STAFF PARKING.

I KNOW A FEW THINGS THAT I DO KNOW BECAUSE MY DAUGHTER IN LAW WORKS FOR THE COURTS.

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BUT RIGHT NOW, OUR PARKING RIGHT HERE IS ALL OCCUPIED BY HHSA VEHICLES.

NOW, THEY MIGHT NOT BE PARKING HERE, BUT THEY PARKED ON OTHER PLACES, AND THEN THEY HAVE TO WALK UP HERE TO GET THE VEHICLES.

IF WE HAD MORE PARKING, THEN THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO PUT THOSE SOMEWHERE ELSE, AND THEN THOSE SPOTS COULD BE USED FOR PARKING AS WELL.

>> WOULD YOU SUPPORT PUTTING THOSE VEHICLES THERE AND LETTING STAFF GO THERE?

>> WELL, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THERE'S A NEED FOR THE EXTRA PARKING, AND THAT WE'RE NOT JUST THROWING A MILLION SIX JUST TO THROW A PARKING LOT IN WITH NO PLAN FOR IS IT REALLY WARRANTED.

WOULD PEOPLE USE IT? I KNOW JURORS HAVE BEEN COMPLAINING FOR A LONG TIME THAT THEY CAN'T FIND A PLACE TO PARK AND THEN THEY HAVE TO PAY TO PARK AND SOME OF THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.

>> YOU WANT TO TRY TO LOOK INTO ASKING THE COURTS ABOUT MAYBE THEM RENTING SOME OF THE SPOTS AS PART OF THIS?

>> I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA.

[OVERLAPPING]

>> BRIAN IS IN CHARGE CHARGE OF PARKING IF WE WANT SOMEONE TO LOOK INTO THAT.

>> HERE'S GOING TO BE MY MOTION.

MY MOTION IS THAT I THINK, UNFORTUNATELY, THE DECISION TO GO WITH A PARKING LOT IS JUST A LITTLE BIT PREMATURE.

MY MOTION IS GOING TO BE TO BRING THIS BACK TO A FUTURE MEETING WHEN WE CAN HAVE ALL THOSE QUESTIONS ANSWERED AND THEN WE CAN FIGURE OUT THE SOLAR ARRAYS AND HOW THAT TIES IN ONCE WE KNOW THAT A PARKING LOT IS WHAT WE'RE PUTTING UP, AND WE'RE GOING TO KEEP IT LONG TERM.

THAT WOULD BE MY MOTION THAT WE TABLE THIS DISCUSSION FOR RIGHT NOW, DO NOT TAKE A VOTE, AND THAT WE BRING THIS BACK WITH THOSE QUESTIONS.

I CAN GET IN TOUCH WITH YOU AND LET YOU KNOW MY THOUGHTS AND STUFF GOING FORWARD.

>> MY ONLY CONCERN IS THAT.

>> THERE'S NO SECOND, SO IT DIES FOR LACK OF A SECOND.

>> GOT IT.

>> SUPERVISOR HARMON.

>> WHAT ARE THE OTHER OPTIONS THAT YOU'RE CONSIDERING SUPERVISOR LONG THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO HAVE INSTALLED?

>> THERE IS NONE. YES, WE HAVE NONE.

I'M NOT CLAIMING TO BE A GENIUS ON THIS KIND OF THING, BUT I THINK WE COULD FIGURE THIS OUT UNLESS IT'S GOING TO CAUSE US ALL PROBLEMS AND HAVE A COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDER GROUP AND COME UP WITH A LOT OF IDEAS, AND THEN BRING THIS BACK WITHIN A REASONABLE TIME.

LET'S GIVE IT A MONTH, AND WE FORM COMMITTEES AND SAY, WHAT WOULD THE PUBLIC LIKE TO SEE HERE? DO YOU WANT PARKS? DO YOU WANT OPEN SPACE? DO YOU WANT A PARKING LOT? DO YOU WANT SOMETHING WHERE YOU HAVE A PARKING LOT ON THE FIRST LEVEL AND YOU'VE GOT BUSINESSES ABOVE IT?

>> SUPERVISOR LONG, REMEMBER, THE PUBLIC WANTED AN ICE RINK OR A FARMERS MARKET.

THAT'S WHAT THE PUBLIC SET. SUPERVISOR HARMON.

>> CAN I JUST RESPOND TO THAT QUESTION?

>> ABSOLUTELY.

>> OR SUPERVISOR HARMON, YOU WANT TO GO?

>> I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY, I THOUGHT THE WHOLE IDEA WAS TO [OVERLAPPING]

>> EITHER WE TRUST OUR PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR OF 35 YEARS, WHO'S BEEN AT THE DEPARTMENT.

WE'VE TAKEN ALL OF THIS PUBLIC INPUT.

THEY'VE DONE, JUNK SURVEYS ON DIFFERENT BOARD ON DIFFERENT WEBSITES, WHATEVER, AND THAT'S WHAT THE COMMUNITY SAID.

I THREW IN. I THINK WE SHOULD PUT THE NEW YORK YANKEES THERE. THAT DIDN'T MAKE IT.

AT THIS POINT, WE'RE EITHER GOING TO CONTINUE, WHEN YOU HAVE SOME OF THE LARGEST DETRACTORS OF MINE WHO COME IN AND ACTUALLY AGREE WITH ME, THEN YOU KNOW THERE'S SOMETHING THERE.

WHAT I WOULD TELL YOU, SUPERVISOR PLUMMER IS, EITHER WE'RE GOING TO TRUST TROY BARTOLOMEI? WE'RE GOING TO STOP. WE HAVE PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT WASTING OUR MONEY AND WANTING IT TO GO TO PUBLIC SAFETY.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE'RE GOING TO BOOT THIS FOR TWO OR THREE OR FOUR MORE MONTHS.

WE COULD HAVE NOLDA SHORT COME UP.

OR MAYBE SHE COULD RESURRECT JESUS, AND HE COULD COME UP AND TELL US.

IT'S CLEAR. IT'S VERY CLEAR.

WE'RE EITHER GOING TO DO WHAT IT TAKES, MAKE THE DECISION, WHICH I'M NOT EXCITED ABOUT IT.

I WOULD LOVE TO KEEP THE MONUMENT, AND IF TROY BARTOLOMEI CAN FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO IT. I LOVE THAT.

IF WE COULD KEEP SOME HISTORY THERE, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, LIKE, THIS DECISION HAS TO BE MADE, AND IT'S NOT A FUN ONE.

>> THIS DECISION HAS ALREADY BEEN MADE.

>> IT'S ALREADY BEEN MADE AND THE NEXT STEP IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE.

BRINGING IT BACK AND GETTING PUBLIC INPUT, WE'VE DONE THAT. WE'RE DOWN THAT ROAD.

>> MY LAST QUESTION TO YOU, TROY.

>> REGARDING WHAT CHAIR CRYE JUST SAID, IS IT YOUR PROFESSIONAL OPINION THE PARKING LOT WOULD BE THE BEST APPLICATION, GIVEN THE COST AND THE SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY, AND THE NEED, AND ALL THOSE THINGS, IS THAT YOUR RECOMMENDATION?

>> YES.

>> THANK YOU.

>> I ALREADY MADE THE MOTION.

SUPERVISOR HARMON'S ALREADY SECONDED IT, HOW IT TOOK 50 MINUTES TO GET THERE TO HAVE THAT ONE QUESTION.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR RECOMMENDATION THAT I DIDN'T PROD YOU,

[02:15:02]

I'M SORRY, MR. BARTOLOMEI, IT'S SUCH A MISUSE OF THE PUBLICS TONIGHT TO HAVE YOU SITTING HERE LISTENING FOR THIS LONG.

THAT'S MY MOTION; WE'VE ALREADY TAKEN PUBLIC COMMENT.

WE'RE GOING TO START WITH A ROLL CALL VOTE TO MY RIGHT.

>> I'M GOING TO MAKE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION.

MY SUBSTITUTE MOTION IS THAT WE PROCEED WITH MR. BARTOLOMEI'S PROPOSAL FOR THE PARKING LOT AND THAT WE DO NOT PROCEED WITH THE SOLAR PROJECT, AND WE CAN REVISIT THAT AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE.

THAT WOULD BE MY MOTION.

>> THAT'S ALREADY PART OF THE MOTION, YOU DIDN'T DO ANYTHING DIFFERENT.

THE MOTION IS ALREADY THAT.

HE'S GOING TO BRING THAT BACK, AND WE'RE GOING TO THEN VOTE ON THAT.

>> NO. WHAT THE MOTION WAS, HE IS SUPPOSED TO BE GIVEN THE AUTHORITY TO GO OUT FOR AN RFP.

THAT WAS WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON [OVERLAPPING]

>> WE STILL MAKE THE DECISION.

>> I'M SAYING WE WILL SUSPEND THE RFP AT THIS POINT AND TELL HIM TO STAND DOWN IN THAT AREA, AND WE WILL ALSO APPROVE THE PARKING LOT.

THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE THERE, YOU'RE MIXING WORDS.

>> THERE'S NO SECOND. JUST TO CLARIFY, SO THE PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS THIS, THE WHOLE PART OF THE RFP WITH THE SOLAR IS, THERE MAY BE DOLLARS WHERE THEY'LL PAY FOR THE PARKING LOT, AND THEY'LL PAY FOR THE SOLAR.

THEN THERE'S A POSSIBILITY THAT IF IT ALL GETS RIPPED OUT, IT COSTS US NOT A DIME. [OVERLAPPING]

>> IT'LL COST US 30 YEARS OF AMORTIZATION.

>> IT COSTS US ZERO TO LOOK INTO THAT.

WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THE ROLL CALL, WE'D BEAT THIS UP ENOUGH.

>> MR. CHAIRMAN, I JUST WANT TO [OVERLAPPING] SEE WHAT THE CLERK HAS FOR YOUR MOTION.

IT WAS A LITTLE CONVOLUTED ONE.

>> FOR CLARIFICATION, I HAVE THAT WE WOULD PROVIDE DIRECTION TO THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS TO CONSTRUCT A PARKING LOT ON THE DEMOLITION SITE AND AUTHORIZE THE PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR TO SOLICIT THIRD-PARTY PROPOSALS FOR TURNKEY SOLAR LIGHT OPTIONS.

>> YES, AND SUPERVISOR HARMON HAS SECONDED THAT.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ELOQUENTLY PUT THAT TOGETHER FOR ME, STEF, OF WHAT I SAID, BUT THAT SOUNDED ACCURATE.

IS THAT WHAT I SAID, EXACTLY?

>> NOT WORD FOR WORD, BUT YES.

>> PERFECT. I WANT YOU TO GET CREDIT, YOU DO A GREAT JOB AT YOUR JOB, AND I APPRECIATE IT.

WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A ROLL CALL VOTE STARTING TO MY RIGHT WITH SUPERVISOR PLUMMER.

>> SUPERVISOR PLUMMER?

>> YES.

>> SUPERVISOR HARMON?

>> YES.

>> SUPERVISOR CRYE?

>> YES.

>> SUPERVISOR KELSTROM?

>> YES.

>> SUPERVISOR LONG?

>> YES.

>> PASSES, 5-0. THANK YOU.

BRYCE, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PARKING LOT EXPERTISE.

MOVING ON TO R5.

[R5 Take the following actions: (1) Approve a lease agreement with the City of Redding for 7251 Eastside Road, Redding, and 7051 Eastside Road, Anderson, for land to develop custody operations in Shasta County (“Project”); (2) approve an agreement with SHN Consulting Engineers & Geologists, Inc., for preparation of an Environmental Impact Report for the Project; and (3) approve budget amendments which increase: (a) revenue and appropriations by $500,000 in the Alternative Custody Budget (BU 246); and (b) appropriations by $500,000 in the Accumulated Capital Outlay Budget (BU 161) offset by use of General Fund Infrastructure Detention Center committed funds.]

>> GOOD MORNING, CHAIR CRYE, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.

BRYCE RITCHIE, SENIOR ADMINISTRATIVE ANALYST, COUNTY ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICE.

BEFORE YOU TODAY FOR THE APPROVAL IS A LEASE AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY OF REDDING FOR TWO PARCELS ON EASTSIDE ROAD, A SERVICE AGREEMENT WITH SHN CONSULTING ENGINEERS & GEOLOGISTS INC., FOR PREPARATION OF AN ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT, AND BUDGET AMENDMENTS TO FUND THE PROJECT.

AS STEPHANIE NOTED IN THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING, THERE WAS AN ERROR IN THE PREAMBLE OF THE LEASE AGREEMENT LISTING IN CORRECT STREET ADDRESS, THAT HAS BEEN REMOVED NOW JUST TO REFLECT THE ASSESSOR'S PARCEL NUMBER.

THESE AGREEMENTS ARE A CRITICAL STEP IN PROGRESSING TOWARDS THE SHERIFF'S PLAN FOR AN EXPANDED ALTERNATIVE CUSTODY PROGRAM.

THIS ITEM IS A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT FOR MULTIPLE AGENCIES, DEPARTMENTS, AND STAFF THAT HAVE BEEN CRUCIAL IN KICKING OFF THE PROJECT.

MOST IMPORTANTLY, WE WOULD NOT BE HERE TODAY WITHOUT THE INITIATIVE AND LEADERSHIP OF SHERIFF MICHAEL JOHNSON, THE PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY OF REDDING, AND, OF COURSE, THE WILL AND DIRECTION OF THIS BOARD.

THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.

PUBLIC WORKS AND I ARE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

>> I'M GOING TO START WITH COUNSEL LARMOUR.

>> MR. CHAIRMAN, I WAS IN CONTACT LAST NIGHT WITH CITY STAFF, AND IT'S THEIR RECOMMENDATION AND REQUEST THAT THIS ITEM BE PULLED FROM THE AGENDA AS BEING PREMATURE.

THEIR CONCERNS ARE THAT THEY WOULD PREFER THAT THEY'VE GONE THROUGH THE PROCESS TO DECLARE THIS LAND AS EXEMPT SURPLUS LAND.

WITH THAT, I WOULD LEAVE IT TO THE BOARD TO MAKE THAT DECISION.

>> YES. I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION THAT, RESPECTFULLY, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD.

I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE SIGN THIS DOCUMENT AND GET IT OVER TO THE CITY OF REDDING, PUT THE BALL IN THEIR COURT, AND GET THIS ALTERNATIVE CUSTODY PROGRAM ROLLING, AND NO MORE STALLING.

>> I'LL SECOND IT.

>> THAT WAS CLOSE. SUPERVISOR PLUMMER, I THINK YOU GOT HIM WITH THE LEAN.

IS THAT OKAY, SUPERVISOR KELSTROM?

>> THAT'S FINE.

>> LET'S TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT, MS. BLANKENSHIP, BEFORE WE GET INTO BOARD DISCUSSION.

BOTTOM LINE FOR THE PUBLIC, THIS IS THE ALTERNATIVE CUSTODY PIECE OF PROPERTY.

WE'VE BEEN WORKING, WE'VE BEEN PUSHING THE CITY TO GET THIS SIGNED, GET THIS DONE.

I CAN'T ARTICULATE WHAT IT IS.

I'M NOT SAYING IT'S A STALING THING, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE COUNTY'S GOING TO SIGN THIS, AND WE'RE GOING TO SEND IT OVER TO THE CITY,

[02:20:01]

ARE THEY GOING TO GET THIS MOVING AND GET THIS DONE, OR IS THERE SOMETHING ELSE THERE? PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> CHAIR, WE HAVE THREE SPEAKERS.

FIRST UP, DOLORES LUCERO, FOLLOWED BY NICK GARDNER, FOLLOWED BY JENNY.

>> DOLORES?

>> I'LL SKIP THAT.

>> DOLORES SKIPPED.

>> THANK YOU.

>> NICK GARDNER, FOLLOWED BY JENNY.

IF I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE GET IN QUEUE.

>> NICK, BE CAREFUL. THEY'RE AT STEEP, YOU'RE GOING TO PICK UP SPEED.

>> THAT WAS PARAMOUNT ON MY MIND.

>> WELCOME, SIR.

>> YOU'RE GOING TO BE OLD SOMEDAY, I HOPE I'M AROUND TO LAUGH AT YOU.

[LAUGHTER] HEY, I'VE BEEN AGAINST THIS ALTERNATIVE CUSTODY PROGRAM FROM THE START BECAUSE I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THE REHABS WORK ALL THAT WELL, USUALLY ABOUT AN 85% FAILURE RATE, BUT I'VE LOST, SO I'M GOING TO GIVE THAT ARGUMENT UP.

WE'RE GOING FORWARD WITH IT, I REALIZE THAT.

I WISH YOU'D QUIT DANGLING OUT IN FRONT OF US THAT WE'RE GOING TO PLUMMET FOR A JAIL BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET A JAIL.

THIS IS GOING TO BE A MONEY HOLE, AND I HOPE IT DOES WORK, BUT WHEN YOU SET UP THE WEBSITE FOR THE ALTERNATIVE CUSTODY PROGRAM, I'D LIKE YOU TO PUT UP IN THE CORNER HOW MANY PEOPLE WENT TO IT, AND THEN I'D LIKE TO SEE HOW MANY PEOPLE FINISHED IT, AND THEN I'D LIKE TO SEE HOW MANY PEOPLE THAT FINISHED IT RE-OFFENDED.

THAT'S IT, THANK YOU.

>> I APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU.

>> NEXT UP, JENNY, AND THAT'S OUR LAST SPEAKER.

>> WELCOME.

>> HELLO, HOW I MISSED THAT.

THANK YOU, BOARD, FOR HEARING US TODAY.

SEEING THE BOARD MOVE FORWARD ON AN ALTERNATIVE CUSTODY PROGRAM IS AN EXCITING ITEM TO SEE UP HERE TODAY.

I KNOW MANY PLANS HAVE COME AND GONE FOR HOW TO DEAL WITH THE HIGH RECIDIVISM RATES OF OUR LOCAL JAIL.

IF YOU'RE DOING SURVEYS AND ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORTS, IT FEELS LIKE IT WON'T BE LONG UNTIL YOU ACTUALLY BREAK GROUND.

I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT SOME OF YOU HAVE COME AROUND ON THE IDEA OF REHABILITATION AS BEING AN IMPORTANT PART OF REDUCING RECIDIVISM RATES.

NO LONGER TRYING THE SAME THING WE'VE BEEN DOING FOR 40 YEARS, YOU'RE LOOKING INTO A MORE THAN JUST PUNISHMENT MODEL, GOING FURTHER THAN THE CARROT AND THE STICK, BUT OFFERING TRAINING AND A WAY TO STAY ONCE THE CITIZENS ARE OUT TO STAY OUT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, AND I HOPE TO SEE MORE ITEMS LIKE THIS ON THE DOCKET.

>> THANK YOU. SUPERVISOR PLUMMER.

>> I JUST HAD A REAL QUICK QUESTION AROUND THE BUDGET AMENDMENT.

IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S THE APPROPRIATIONS AND EXPENSE WITHIN THE ACP BUDGET, BUT THEN ALSO ACCUMULATED OUTLAY?

>> CORRECT.

>> THE ACCUMULATED OUTLAY ONE MAKES SENSE.

I WAS WONDERING WHY WE'RE MAKING THE BUDGET AMENDMENT IN THE ACP AS WELL.

>> ACCUMULATED OUTLAY, MORE OFTEN THAN NOT, ACTS AS A PASS-THROUGH.

IN THIS CASE, THE COMMITTED FUND PASSES THROUGH ACCUMULATED CAPITAL OUTLAY AND THEN ACTUALLY COMES OUT OF THE EXPENDITURES IN THE ALTERNATIVE CUSTODY BUDGET.

>> THAT MAKES SENSE, GOT IT.

>> SUPERVISOR LONG.

>> THANK YOU, CHAIR. YOU JUST ANSWERED THE QUESTION I HAD AS WELL.

ONE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE FOR COUNTY COUNSEL IS, CAN YOU ARTICULATE AGAIN WHAT EXACTLY THE HOLDUP ON THE CITY'S PART WAS? I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THAT.

>> I WOULDN'T SAY IT'S A HOLDUP.

THEY JUST FELT THAT IT WAS PREMATURE BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T HAD THE LAND DESIGNATED AS SURPLUS LAND.

>> HOW DIFFICULT IS THAT PROCESS, AND WHAT WOULD THE TIME DELAY BE FOR THAT?

>> IT DOES TAKE APPROVAL FROM THE STATE, GIVING YOU A TIME FRAME WOULD BE DIFFICULT.

OBVIOUSLY, IT WOULD DEPEND ON WHETHER THE DOCUMENTS THEY PROVIDE THEM ARE SUFFICIENT AND THAT THEY DON'T SEEK ANY FURTHER INFORMATION FROM THE CITY.

I WOULDN'T THINK THAT IT WOULD TAKE MORE THAN A MONTH OR TWO.

>> MONTH OR TWO. THEN MY LAST QUESTION WOULD BE, IF WE SIGN OUR END OF THE LEASE AGREEMENT AND SEND IT OVER TO THEM, IS THERE ANY TIMELINE, IF IT TAKES TWO MONTHS, WILL WE HAVE TO REDO IT, OR IS THAT STANDING ONCE WE SEND IT OVER?

>> ALSO, THE CONTRACT HAS NO FORCE OR EFFECT UNTIL BOTH PARTIES HAVE SIGNED, AND IT ALSO WOULD HAVE NO FORCE OR EFFECT UNTIL THE PROPERTY IS DEEMED EXEMPT SURPLUS LAND.

>> IF WE SIGN TODAY OR WHENEVER, THAT WILL NOT BE A PROBLEM HAVING TO BRING IT BACK FOR US TO RESIGN IT, WE'VE DONE OUR PART.

>> ASSUMING THE CITY DOESN'T MAKE FURTHER CHANGES TO THE AGREEMENT.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. ANY OTHER SUPERVISORS, WE'RE READY FOR A VOTE? WE'LL START WITH A ROLL CALL VOTE TO MY LEFT.

[02:25:04]

>> YES.

>> SORRY, GIVE ME JUST ONE MOMENT.

I WANTED TO MAKE SURE I HAD EVERYTHING CLEAR BEFORE MOVING FORWARD.

STARTING WITH YOUR LEFT, SUPERVISOR LONG?

>> YES.

>> SUPERVISOR KELSTROM.

>> YES.

>> SUPERVISOR CRYE?

>> YES.

>> SUPERVISOR HARMON?

>> YES.

>> SUPERVISOR PLUMMER?

>> YES.

>> PASSES, 5-0. THANK YOU, BRYCE.

>> THANK YOU, BOARD.

>> AGAIN, FOR SOME OF YOU, IF YOU'RE GOING TO GO TO THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING TONIGHT, I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO GO SPEAK BEFORE CLOSED SESSION.

THEY'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT THIS.

IF YOU NOTICE, WE TALK ABOUT THIS ALL THE TIME IN OPEN SESSION, THEY DO IT IN CLOSED SESSION.

PLEASE URGE THE CITY COUNCIL TO SIGN IT AND GET IT MOVING, NO MORE SLOW WALKING, IT, WHATEVER.

MOVING ON TO R6,

[R6 Approve a budget amendment which increases appropriations by $125,000 in the Election Admin & Registration Budget (BU 140) offset by use of General Fund.]

THIS IS WHAT I REFERENCED EARLIER ABOUT ALL THE GREAT DEPARTMENTS WORKING SO HARD, AND THEN AFTER A CONVERSATION OF SUPERVISOR PLUMMER AND MYSELF. WELCOME BACK, SIR.

>> GLAD TO BE HERE. THIS FACES BUDGET AMENDMENT TO ROLL OUT THE PROTOTYPE OF WHAT WE CAN GET FOR, BASICALLY, BIG BEROL STEEL TO GET ENOUGH OF THE EQUIPMENT SO WE CAN SHOW WHAT CAN BE DONE.

I KNOW WE CAN GET TABULATORS ENOUGH THAT WE CAN SHOW THE TABULATION PROCESS.

AS FAR AS GETTING IT OVER TO THE PRECINCTS, THAT MIGHT BE A LITTLE MORE DIFFICULT BECAUSE THERE WON'T BE ENOUGH MONEY FOR ALL THAT.

THE LEASE ON THE BUILDING IT MAY NOT BE A JOANN FABRICS.

IT MAY BE SOMETHING SOMEWHERE ELSE, BUT IT WILL AT LEAST BE SO WE CAN SET IT UP AND SHOW EVERYTHING.

>> WELL, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, JUST FOR THE SAKE OF TIME, BUT THE BACKUP QUITE POSSIBLY IS MARKET STREET AND EMPTYING THAT BOTTOM SECTION, CORRECT?

>> IT IS, BUT IF WE EMPTY UP BOTTOM SECTION, WE STILL HAVE TO HAVE SOME PLACE FOR PEOPLE TO HAVE AN ELECTION, SO WE'LL HAVE TO RENT SOMETHING BECAUSE YOU CAN'T EMPTY THAT OUT AND DO OTHER PARTS.

>> WELL, WHEN WE BROUGHT THIS BACK, ONE OF THE THINGS WE COULD HAVE DONE WAS PUNT IT.

YOU DIDN'T GET A PHONE CALL TODAY, DID YOU, FROM THE JOANN FABRICS OWNER?

>> I HAVE NOT YET.

>> MY DISCUSSIONS WITH HIM HAVE BEEN A LITTLE SLOWER THAN ANTICIPATED. SUPERVISOR HARMON.

>> I HAD THE PRIVILEGE YESTERDAY OF VISITING THE VETERANS HALL OVER HERE NEXT TO THE POST OFFICE WITH CEO.

>> CEO?

>> CEO, I ALMOST CALLED YOU THE ROV, SORRY.

RICKERT, THE LAST TIME WE TALKED ABOUT THIS, I SAID, WELL, WHAT ABOUT A GYMNASIUM? WELL, THAT'S ABOUT AS CLOSE TO A GYMNASIUM AS YOU CAN GET, AND WE DON'T USE IT, EXCEPT FOR SPORADICALLY.

WE DID TALK TO THE PEOPLE OVER THERE AT THE VETS HALL, AND IT DIDN'T SEEM TO BE A PROBLEM IF WE USE THAT HALL.

IT'S PLENTY BIG, IT HAS ADA BATHROOMS ON ONE END, THERE'S PARKING AROUND THE BACKSIDE.

THERE'D BE SOME STUFF WE'D NEED TO DO, BUT I THOUGHT IT WAS A GREAT IDEA, WE OWN IT, WE ALREADY MAINTAIN IT.

THE VETERANS HALL DIDN'T SEEM LIKE IT'D BE A PROBLEM, AND IT'S PLENTY BIG FOR WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

THE RABA BUS STOP IS RIGHT ACROSS THE ROAD.

I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION, UNLESS WE WANT TO DISCUSS IT FIRST.

>> WELL, I'LL SECOND IT.

>> CAN I ADDRESS THIS, THOUGH? IN ORDER TO USE THAT, IT HAS TO BE A SINGLE-USE SITE.

BASICALLY, NOBODY ELSE CAN BE IN THERE, WE HAVE TO SECURE IT BECAUSE OTHERWISE, WE CAN'T PUT THE ELECTION EQUIPMENT THERE.

WE LOOKED AT THAT, AND WE HAVE TO BASICALLY LOCK IT DOWN, SO FOR TWO, THREE MONTHS, IT'S CLOSED.

>> WELL, IT WOULDN'T BE THREE MONTHS, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE A LOT LESS THAN THAT.

>> WE WOULD MAKE ALL OUR EQUIPMENT.

>> AGAIN, THIS IS WHAT SUPERVISOR PLUMMER AND I DISCUSSED, WAS ABOUT WORKING WITH JOANN FABRICS AND GETTING A LEASE FOR A BUCK FOR A SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME AND MAKING THAT WORK, AND IT'S JUST TAKING MORE TIME.

JUST FOR THE PUBLIC'S KNOWLEDGE, WE TALKED ABOUT ME PULLING THIS ITEM, BUT AGAIN, NOT TO VIOLATE THE BROWN ACT, I WANTED TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION BECAUSE I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT, THE FIVE OF US HAVE THIS DISCUSSION INSTEAD OF YOU AND I JUST TALKING ABOUT IT, SO I DIDN'T PULL IT FOR THAT REASON.

WE HAVE A MOTION, WE HAVE A SECOND FOR DISCUSSION.

>> WHAT IS THE MOTION?

>> WHERE TO USE IS NOT ON THE AGENDA, WE'RE GETTING OUTSIDE [OVERLAPPING]

>> WE HAVE TO PUT THAT BACK.

[02:30:01]

>> THE ONLY THING YOU HAVE ON THE AGENDA IS FOR BUDGET AMENDMENT.

>> IT'S JUST THE APPROPRIATION OF THAT MONEY FOR 125.

>> ABSOLUTELY. HERE'S MY QUESTION ON BUDGET AMENDMENT BECAUSE I KNOW SUPERVISOR PLUMMER IS GOING TO ASK IT, BUT ARE WE ABLE TO PUT ON THAT BUDGET AMENDMENT? BECAUSE IT IS FOUR-FIFTHS, CAN WE PUT CONTINGENCIES ON THAT, OR IS IT SOMETHING IF WE MAKE THE VOTE OF FOUR-FIFTHS THAT WE RELEASE THE MONEY, AND THAT IS WHAT IT IS?

>> YOU'RE MOVING THE AMOUNT OF THE BUDGET AMENDMENT INTO THEIR BUDGET AT THAT POINT.

>> IF WE MOVE IT OVER THERE, ARE WE ABLE TO PUT STIPULATIONS ON THAT? MS. BERTAIN, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I HEAR IT FROM COUNSEL OR YOURS.

>> MORNING, CHAIR, PRIME MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, ERIN BERTAIN, DEPUTY COUNTY EXECUTIVE OFFICER.

IF THE BOARD APPROVES THE BUDGET AMENDMENT, THEN THE ROV WOULD HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO SPEND.

IF THE BOARD HAS CONTINGENCIES THEY WANT TO PUT ON IT, THEY WOULD NEED TO HAVE HIM MEET THOSE FIRST AND THEN TRANSFER THE MONEY.

>> MATT, THERE'S OUR ANSWER [OVERLAPPING] NO, I'M REALLY SORRY.

SUPERVISOR LONG IS IN QUEUE BEFORE YOU, I'M SORRY. SUPERVISOR LONG.

>> THANK YOU.

>> MR. CURTIS, IF I UNDERSTAND THIS, I THINK YOU USED THE WORD PROTOTYPE?

>> YES.

>> ANOTHER WORD FOR THAT WOULD BE PROOF OF CONCEPT.

>> YES. CORRECT? SAME THING.

>> SAME THING.

>> PROOF OF CONCEPT, MEANING THE CONCEPT BEING THAT YOU CAN SPEED UP ELECTIONS THROUGH THE PROCESS OF INCREASED TABULATORS, CAMERA EQUIPMENT AND ALL THAT AND IMPROVE THE PROCESS.

THE THING I HAVE QUESTION ABOUT THIS IS WE'VE GOT PROBABLY GOING TO BE AN INTERESTING NOVEMBER ELECTION THAT YOU'RE ALREADY AWARE.

WE'VE GOT THE ONE CENT SALES TAX CITY OF READING.. THEN WE'VE ALSO GOT THE REDISTRICTING THAT IS LOOKING LIKE IT'S COMING OUR WAY.

MAYBE SO.

IT'S GOING TO BE A VERY COMPLEX ELECTION PROCESS, I THINK.

CAN YOU TELL ME HOW SOON MAIL OUT BALLOTS GO OUT PRIOR TO NOVEMBER 5TH?

>> WELL, THEY GO OUT 30 DAYS BEFORE.

WE HAVEN'T EVEN PRINTED THE BALLOTS YET, BECAUSE GENERALLY, WE WOULD HAVE ALREADY SUBMITTED THE ARTWORK IN TO HAVE THE BALLOTS PRINTED.

>> MR. CHAIRMAN.

>> BUT SINCE THE STATE HASN'T DECIDED.

>> COUNCIL LAMAR.

>> I AGAIN HAVE TO POINT OUT THAT WE ONLY HAVE A BUDGET AMENDMENT HERE AND WE'RE EXCEEDING.

[OVERLAPPING]

>> SURE, I AGREE. THAT'S WHY I LOOKED DOWN AND TRY NOT TO MAKE EYE CONTACT WITH HIM UNTIL HE START HITTING MY BUZZER.

[LAUGHTER] WELL, BECAUSE I WANT US TO HAVE THE DISCUSSION.

WE CAN'T HAVE IT AS A GROUP.

>> THIS DISCUSSION IS IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTANDING THE JUSTIFICATION FOR SPENDING $125,000.

THAT'S WHERE I'M GOING TO GO WITH THAT IF THAT'S OKAY.

MY POINT BEING THOSE BALLOTS ARE GOING TO COME OUT SOMEWHERE FIRST WEEK OF OCTOBER.

WE'RE NOW BASICALLY THIRD WEEK OF AUGUST, SO WE'RE DOWN TO 5,6 WEEKS.

I REALLY QUESTION WHETHER THE PROTOTYPE PROOF OF CONCEPT, HAS ENOUGH TIME TO GET IMPLEMENTED AND WHEN WE'RE TALKING LEASES, AND WE'RE TRYING TO FIND TABULATORS AND ALL THOSE THINGS.

I DON'T THINK WE CAN GET THAT DONE BEFORE OCTOBER 5TH.

THAT'S MY PROCESS.

I MIGHT ENCOURAGE YOU TO BRING THIS CONCEPT BACK TO US SO WE CAN FURTHER DISCUSS THIS BUT AFTER THE ELECTION.

THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH YOUR POINT, BUT MY BOARD DISCUSSION IS THAT WE HAVE TO BE SO MINDFUL OF OUR COUNTY FUND EXPENDITURES.

WE'RE IN A STRUCTURAL DEFICIT, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT HAS TO DO WITH ALLOCATION OF POSITIONS, BUT WE'RE IN A STRUCTURAL DEFICIT, BORROWING TO MAKE SURE OUR BUDGET LOOKS RIGHT AND MEETS RIGHT.

EVERY EXPENDITURE THAT WE MAKE IS SOMETHING THAT COMES OUT OF, AS WE'VE HAD EXPLAINED BY MS. BERTAIN, IT COMES OUT OF OUR FUND SET ASIDE FOR THE ALTERNATIVE CUSTODY PROGRAM AND DEALING WITH PUBLIC SAFETY.

EVERYTHING COMES OUT OF THAT POT.

THIS 125 QUESTION FOR ERIN BERTAIN, WOULD THIS FUNDING FOR THIS 125,000 COME OUT OF THAT RESERVE THAT WE'VE SET UP OR THE GENERAL FUND?

>> IN WHAT'S PRESENTED HERE TODAY, IT'S JUST GOING TO COME OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND DIRECTLY.

>>GENERAL FUND DIRECTLY?

>> YEAH. THE LAST TIME WE BROUGHT IT, WE BROUGHT IT COMING OUT OF THE SET ASIDE FOR THE JAIL BECAUSE IT EXCEEDED WHAT WE HAD AVAILABLE IN THE GENERAL FUND AND WOULD HAVE ACTUALLY TAKEN THE GENERAL FUND NEGATIVE, WHICH WE CAN'T HAVE THAT HAPPEN.

WITH 125,000, WHILE WE DON'T HAVE VERY MUCH MONEY IN THE GENERAL FUND, THAT IT WOULD JUST COME FROM THERE.

>> WE HAVE THE 125 THIS TIME TO COVER IN THE GENERAL FUND,

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>> CORRECT.

>> SMALL AMOUNTS?

>> YES.

>> THANK YOU. WE HAVE TO REMEMBER, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT OUR GENERAL FUND IS VERY LIMITED, AND OUR SET ASIDE FOR OUR PUBLIC SAFETY PROGRAM IS OF UTMOST PARAMOUNT, AND I JUST DON'T WANT TO SEE US CONTINUALLY BLEEDING AWAY FUNDS THAT ARE FOR THAT PURPOSE, WHICH I BELIEVE THE COMMUNITY IS BEHIND, SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY ON THAT. SUPERVISOR PLUMMER.

>> YES. I WANTED TO JUST EXPLAIN BOTH THE 125 FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, AS WELL AS THE CONDITIONS WHICH I SHARED WITH SUPERVISOR CRYE LATE LAST WEEK, WHICH IS THE 125 FOR ME WAS, I WANT TO GIVE YOU A CHANCE TO, I'M NOT NECESSARILY LIKE, OH, WE NEED TO DO THIS, BUT YOU'RE THE ELECTED OFFICIAL, ESSENTIALLY, AND YOU WANT TO DO THIS.

I WANT TO GIVE YOU THE CHANCE.

TO TEST IT WITHOUT INCURRING A MAJOR EXPENSE TO OUR COUNTY.

WITH THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY DURING THE BUDGET, WE HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS THERE, AND THAT 125 IS WHAT THE SAME AMOUNT THAT WE GRANTED IN TERMS OF THE LEGAL SECRETARY 12 PLUS THE ADDITIONAL LEGAL SECRETARY.

THAT'S WHERE THAT NUMBER COMES FROM.

I DID ASK THAT, AND FOR ME, ESPECIALLY SINCE YOU'RE TRYING SOMETHING NEW AND NOVEL, THERE NEEDS TO BE A BIT MORE OF A PAPER TRAIL HERE TO HELP ME ESTABLISH, WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY DOING AND THAT WE CAN SATISFY THIS.

BECAUSE WHAT I DON'T WANT TO DO IS JUST GIVE 125 WHEN WE DON'T HAVE IT, AND THEN IT'D BE LIKE, WELL, IT DIDN'T WORK, SO WE'RE USING THE FUNDS OVER HERE TO DO WHATEVER ELSE.

I HAD ASKED FOR THESE THREE THINGS, AND IF THIS SHOULD COME BACK, THIS IS WHAT I THINK WOULD BE NECESSARY FOR ME TO BE ON BOARD, WHICH IS A QUOTE FROM A VENDOR FOR THE NEEDED CAMERAS AND A DIAGRAM SHOWING, THIS IS HOW MANY CAMERAS WE WOULD NEED.

WE CAN HAVE A SENSE THAT, IF WE GOT X NUMBER OF CAMERAS, AND IT WOULD WORK IN THIS WAY, AND WE CAN GET IT AT THIS PRICE.

A QUOTE FROM THE VENDOR FOR THE ADDITIONAL TABULATORS AND WHETHER THAT'S A LEASE OR THAT'S PURCHASING AND ALSO SHOWING HOW MANY TABULATORS AND HOW MUCH TIME IT WOULD THEN TAKE.

THEN REGARDING THE SPACE, WHICH IT SOUNDS LIKE SUPERVISOR HARMON HAS A NUMBER OF IDEAS THERE, BUT A LETTER OF INTENT OR INTEREST.

I'M NOT LOOKING FOR THE ACTUAL LEASE, BUT SOMETHING SUGGESTING THAT THIS IS FEASIBLE AND WOULD BE POSSIBLE.

THEN TO SUPERVISOR LONG'S POINT THAT ALL OF THAT COULD BE DONE IN TIME FOR THE NOVEMBER ELECTION.

BASICALLY, I WANT, A ROBUST PLAN THAT'S DOCUMENTED THAT CAN DEMONSTRATE, IF WE GIVE YOU THE MONEY, YOU CAN ACTUALLY DO IT.

FOR ME TO APPROVE IT, AND THAT'S WHAT I SHARED EARLIER, SO I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT WITH YOU PUBLICLY AND WITH THE PUBLIC.

>> THANK YOU SUPERVISOR PLUMMER.

MR. CURTIS, DID YOU GET THE INFORMATION BACK FROM A PROVIDER OF NET SOUND OR SOMEBODY ELSE? I KNOW NET SOUND IS SOMEBODY WE'VE CONTRACTED WITH?

>> HE IS STILL WORKING ON IT.

I HAVE 35 CAMERAS DONATED FROM TERRAN COUNTY, TEXAS.

THAT'S GOING TO SEND THOSE UP.

WE CAN BUILD THE THINGS THAT HOLD IT BY OURSELVES, THERE'S ONE IN MY OFFICE, IF SOMEONE'S RUN BY AND SEE IT FOR ABOUT 80 BUCKS A PIECE, SO THAT WILL COVER THE OTHER THING, WE'RE STILL WORKING WITH HART TO TRY AND GET AS MANY MACHINES AS WE CAN.

BUT EVEN IF WE DON'T GET ANY, WE CAN STILL DEMONSTRATE EXACTLY HOW IT WORKS AND PROVIDE AN AREA WHERE THE OBSERVERS ARE SHOVED INTO A WALL OR IN A CLOSET, AND CAN ACTUALLY SEE WHAT'S GOING ON.

I KNOW THAT PUBLIC SAFETY IS IMPORTANT, BUT IN MY OPINION, ELECTION IS THE BEDROCK OF EVERYTHING WE DO.

[APPLAUSE] IF WE DON'T PAY ATTENTION TO THAT, WE REALLY HAVE NOTHING.

>> WELL, I THINK JUST SO AND I'M NOT SPEAKING FOR ANYBODY, BUT IT IS A FOUR FIFTH VOTE.

SUPERVISOR PLUMMER HAS SOME REQUESTS.

I THINK THOSE NEED TO BE MITIGATED.

I'M NOT SAYING THAT I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT PROCESS IS GOING TO BE IN TERMS OF THE LAYOUT.

SUPERVISOR PLUMMER, TO WHAT DEGREE WOULD YOU BE LOOKING FOR? LIKE WE'RE NOT TALKING A CAD DRAWING, BUT IT ALSO CAN'T BE BACK OF A NAPKIN, LIKE THAT THING.

THIS IS WHY I DECIDED TO ROLL THIS IS BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND THAT.

I DON'T WANT TO OVER I WON'T SAY MICROMANAGE THAT PART, BUT THAT'S ONE THING IS LIKE, WE DIDN'T AND I GET IT, THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY.

WE'RE NOT ASKING, WHICH DIRECTION THOSE LEGAL SECRETARIES ARE FACING OR WHERE THEY'RE SITTING IN THE OFFICE, BUT I GET IT.

SHE'S BEEN THERE LONGER AND SHE'S NOT MAYBE TRYING SOMETHING NOVEL.

HOWEVER, I DON'T WANT TO PUT SUCH BUREAUCRACY AROUND HIM.

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WELL, I WON'T EVEN SAY WILDLY BECAUSE YOU ASKED FOR TWO PLUS MILLION, YOU'RE GETTING 5% OF THAT.

BUT CAN YOU EXPLAIN EXACTLY WHAT YOU'D LIKE TO SEE HIM BRING BACK FROM THAT DRAWING STANDPOINT?

>> YEAH, I'M JUST SAYING, IN A STAFF REPORT SHOWING A SIMPLE OR A SINGLE SLIDE.

HERE'S WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE.

>> I JUST THOUGHT OF THIS. DO YOU HAVE ANY VIDEO? I DIDN'T ATTEND IT.

BUT DO YOU HAVE ANY VIDEO OF WHEN YOU DID THAT DEMO BACK AT I THINK IT WAS THE RED LINE OR THE HOLIDAY IN A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO?

>> YES, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO FIND YOU A VIDEO OF THAT.

>> NONETHELESS, SUPERVISOR PLUMMER WANTS SOME DOCUMENT IN THE STAFF REPORT THAT SHOWS LOCATIONS AND THE SETUP, PUT IT TO SCALE OF SQUARE FOOTAGE, BECAUSE I THINK WE'RE CLOSE, AND I THINK SUPERVISOR HARMON'S REQUEST TO THE VETERANS OFFICE, THAT MAY BE A THING, BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY, BUT I'M GOING TO GO TO SUPERVISOR LONG.

THANK YOU, SUPERVISOR MATT.

>> THANK YOU, CHAIR. MAYBE BRYCE, YOU COULD COME UP.

>> YOU'VE HEARD THE PROPOSAL FOR BASICALLY CREATING A PROTOTYPE TO IMPLEMENT NEW CAMERAS, INCREASE TABULATORS, A LEASE OF A NEW BUILDING, WHETHER IT BE A TEMPORARY LEASE FOR A FEW DAYS, WHETHER THERE'S NO COST, ALL THAT STUFF.

AM I WRONG OR LET'S PHRASE IT ANOTHER WAY.

WHAT IN YOUR ESTIMATION IS THE TIME THAT IT TYPICALLY TAKES TO GO THROUGH A PROJECT OF THIS MAGNITUDE? IT'S GOT A LOT OF MOVING PARTS.

DO YOU THINK WE CAN GET THIS DONE IN FIVE WEEKS?

>> THAT'S OUT OF THE COUNTY'S CONTROL AT THIS POINT.

IF WE WERE ABLE TO PARTNER WITH OTHER COUNTIES AND VENDORS TO DO A LOT OF THE LIFT.

IT MIGHT BE POSSIBLE. I REALLY DON'T KNOW.

SIMILAR TO SUPERVISOR PLUMMER'S QUESTIONS, I DON'T KNOW THAT I HAVE ENOUGH OF THE DETAILS AS TO WHAT EXACTLY IT WOULD BE NEEDED.

ALSO HAVEN'T SEEN THE BUILD OUT MR. CURTIS WAS TALKING ABOUT WITH THE CAMERAS.

I DON'T KNOW THE EXTENT OF THE WORK THAT'S BEING DONE TO MAKE THAT ESTIMATION.

>> IS IT A FAIR ASSESSMENT TO SAY THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF, MY WORD, LOOSE ENDS, UNANSWERED QUESTIONS THAT YOU WOULD NEED TO DEVELOP A TIMELINE FOR A BUILDOUT OF THIS MAGNITUDE?

>> YEAH, AGAIN, SUPERVISOR PLUMMER, I THINK COVERED A LOT OF THE THINGS I WOULD BE LOOKING AT, NUMBER OF CAMERAS, PLACEMENT, LOCATION, WHAT THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THOSE ARE.

IF WE'RE RECORDING, WE HAVE A REQUIREMENT TO HOLD ONTO THE DATA FOR 365 DAYS PLUS ONE.

HOW THAT'S GOING TO BE FACILITATED.

MR. CURTIS ALSO BROUGHT A VERY GOOD POINT ABOUT A SECURED SITE.

WE WOULD HAVE TO ESTABLISH THAT, AS WELL.

I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH ALL OF THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE SECRETARY OF STATE TO CHECK THOSE OFF, BUT HIS STAFF AND HIMSELF WOULD BE, THE ARBITER OF THAT.

I WOULD LEAN ON THEM TO DETERMINE THOSE.

>> YEAH, AND I APPRECIATE IN A PERFECT WORLD, THIS COULD BE DONE WITHIN 5, 6 WEEKS.

BUT REALISTICALLY, I WOULD SUSPECT THAT ALL THOSE UNANSWERED QUESTIONS ARE GOING TO TAKE A LOT LONGER THAN SIX WEEKS.

THEN THERE'S GOING TO BE A PROGRESSION OF A LINEAR SEQUENCE OF THE THINGS YOU HAVE TO DO FIRST, SECOND, THIRD, AND THAT MIGHT CONSUME TIME.

I WON'T PRESS YOU TO COME UP WITH YES OR NO. THANK YOU, BRYCE.

>> YOU'RE WELCOME.

>> THE NEXT QUESTION WILL BE FOR AARON REAL QUICKLY. THANK YOU.

MY CONCERNS WITH SPENDING ANOTHER $125,000.

WE HAD A BUDGET HEARING IN JUNE, AND WE SET THE BUDGETS FOR EACH DEPARTMENT.

THIS IS A REQUEST TO ALTER THAT.

YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT OUR GENERAL FUND ON OTHER ISSUES AND HOW LOW THAT IS AND WHERE THIS WOULD COME FROM OR THIS ISSUE, AND WHERE THOSE FUNDS WOULD COME FROM.

MY QUESTION IS, I KNOW THIS IS A BOARD DECISION.

>> THEN DO YOU WANT TO DIRECT IT TO THE BOARD?

>> NO, I'M ASKING HER.

I BELIEVE THIS IS A BOARD QUESTION, BUT WHAT WOULD BE YOUR PREFERENCE, WOULD IT BE TO ADDRESS THESE TYPES OF ISSUES AND AMENDMENTS AT REGULAR BUDGET HEARINGS OR WOULD IT BE ALL THESE SERIES OF MID YEAR ADJUSTMENT REQUESTS AND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS WE CAN'T FIGURE OUT AND THOSE THINGS?

>> I WILL SAY THAT, OBVIOUSLY, IN AN IDEAL WORLD, WE WOULD KNOW EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING TO COME UP AT THE BUDGET HEARINGS, BUT IT'S REALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO DO THAT.

WE DO SEVERAL SERIES OF BUDGET AMENDMENTS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, REGARDLESS.

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THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THIS PROCESS, SO THAT, WE KNOW WHAT WE KNOW.

IT'S FEBRUARY, WHEN THE DEPARTMENTS ARE DOING THEIR BUDGETS.

THINGS CHANGE QUITE SIGNIFICANTLY IN 3, 04, 5, 6 MONTHS, CERTAINLY IN A YEAR.

WE GET MID YEAR, WE'RE A YEAR OUT FROM WHEN WE CREATED THOSE BUDGETS.

IT'S WHY WE HAVE THESE PROCESSES.

IT WOULD BE GREAT IF WE COULD GET IT, EVERYTHING IN THERE, IN FEBRUARY, BUT IT WOULD BE VIRTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE. BUDGET AMENDMENT [OVERLAPPING]

>> MR. CHAIRMAN.

>> YOU GOT CEO [INAUDIBLE].

>> YES SIR, SUPERVISOR LONG, I THINK YOU PROVIDE SOME CLARITY IN THAT.

WITH ALL THE OTHER BUDGETS AT THE COUNTY, WE WENT THROUGH THAT BUDGETARY PROCESS, MADE ADJUSTMENTS AND AMENDMENTS, AND MADE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE BOARD BECAUSE THAT POSITION WAS SCHEDULED TO BE OPEN, AND WE WEREN'T SURE WHO THE NEXT ROV WAS, I WANTED THAT DECISION AND HAVE THE NEXT NEW ROV HAVE INPUT ON THAT.

WE DID NOT AUTHORIZE ANY OF THE REQUESTS BY THAT DEPARTMENT AT THAT TIME AND WANTED TO BRING THAT BACK LATER AFTER WE HAD AN APPOINTED ROV.

>> THE PAST ROV AS WELL AS THE PAST ASSISTANT ROV HAD AN ASK OF ROUGHLY $2.5 MILLION, IS THAT CORRECT, MS. BERTAIN WITH TABULATORS AND EVERYTHING?

>> I THINK IT WAS CLOSER TO A MILLION DOLLARS AS FAR AS THEIR APPEAL GOES.

BUT I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO ADD THAT DURING BUDGET HEARINGS, MR. CURTIS DECLINED THE NOVIS PRINTER DUPLICATION, WHICH WAS ABOUT $130,000 ISH.

WE ACTUALLY REDUCED THEIR BUDGET REQUEST BY THAT $130,000 DURING BUDGET HEARINGS.

>> THANK YOU. I DON'T EVEN KNOW THAT.

MR. CURTIS, YOU SAVED US 130,000 THAT WERE ALREADY GOING TO PROBABLY APPROVE.

>> THAT WAS SUPERVISOR PLUMMER'S MOTION, IF YOU RECALL?

>> I DON'T RECALL. I'M JUST BEING HONEST.

>> BUT WE ALL VOTED TO REDUCE THE BUDGET BY THAT.

>> THE THING FOR ME WHEN I LOOK AT, YOU'RE CLEARLY VOTING NO, WHICH IS YOUR PREROGATIVE.

WHAT I WANT IS SOLUTIONS.

SUPERVISOR PLUMMER, YOU'VE BROUGHT, I THINK SOME GREAT QUESTIONS FORWARD.

I KNOW I'VE CALLED THE OWNER OF THE BUILDING.

THAT'S STILL IN PROCESS.

SUPERVISOR HARMON, THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK GOING OVER TO THE VETERANS CENTER.

SUPERVISOR KELSTROM, I KNOW YOU'VE TOURED MULTIPLE BUILDINGS AS WELL IN THIS PROCESS THAT YOU WANT TO WEIGH IN ON.

I THINK AT THIS POINT, MR. CURTIS, BECAUSE THIS IS SOMETHING I'LL BRING BACK THE NEXT MEETING, BECAUSE I THINK THE CONVERSATION KEEP GOING FORWARD TO GIVE YOU THE BEST SHOT.

NOW, HERE'S WHAT I'LL TELL YOU. EVERY DAY THAT TICKS OFF IS LIKE A MONTH BECAUSE-

>> IT'S NOT GOOD.

>> YEAH, IT'S NOT GOOD. BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT SOUNDS LIKE WE CAN'T MAKE A CONTINGENCY OF, HEY, WE DON'T WANT TO PUT THE CART BOARD THE HORSE.

I'M STILL AN ABSOLUTE YES, BUT ON THE 125, I THINK YOU HAVE FOUR VOTES OF THE 125 IF YOU CAN DELIVER ON THAT.

I CAN'T SAY PERSONALLY, BUT I'M SAYING, I THINK THE DECISION NEEDS TO BE MADE IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS.

IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO GO TO LOCK THAT DOWN. AGAIN, THAT'S ME.

I'VE PULLED OFF LIKE ANY OF US, I'M SURE A LOT OF DEALS BEFORE, BUT WHAT WE'RE ASKING OF THAT A BUCK FOR THREE MONTHS IS A PRETTY STEEP ASK.

LET'S GIVE IT THE COLLEGE TRY.

KEEP TRYING A COUPLE MORE TIMES, BUT IF THAT DOESN'T WORK, I THINK THE NEXT THING WE DO IS GO TO THE VETERAN CENTER, CEO RECORD, AND I'M NOT GOING TO PUT THIS INTO A MOTION, BUT I THINK WE JUST SEE IF THAT'S IT.

THEN IF WE CAN GET THE VETERANS CENTER OR JOANN FABRICS, WE BRING THAT BACK WITH THIS, MAKE THE BUDGET AMENDMENT, AND WE GO BECAUSE YOU'RE STILL WORKING ON THE CAMERAS OUT OF TEXAS.

I KNOW NET SOUND AND OTHER VENDORS ARE STILL LOOKING AT THAT.

ALL THIS WORK YOU'VE DONE AND MS. SHORT'S OFFICE, CAO'S OFFICE, COUNTY COUNSEL'S OFFICE, THE CLERK OF THE BOARD, EVERYBODY THAT'S LEANED IN AND GOT BEHIND YOU AND TRIED TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN ARE STILL DOING THAT.

NONE OF THAT EFFORT IS WASTED.

THE PUBLIC JUST HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THIS DISCUSSION LIKE THIS OPPOSED TO JUST A COUPLE FEW OF US WORKING ON IT WITH YOU TO TRY AND SEE IF WE CAN DO IT.

I DON'T THINK AT THIS TIME WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A VOTE.

MS. BLANKENSHIP, DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION?

>> YEAH, JUST FOR THE RECORD, AS COUNTY COUNSEL HAS ADVISED, SUPERVISOR HARMON'S MOTION INCLUDED ACTION THAT WE CAN'T TAKE TODAY, 'CAUSE IT WASN'T ON THE AGENDA.

THEREFORE, SINCE WE DO HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE TABLE, CAN WE JUST ASK THAT SOMEBODY TO SECOND.

>> I'LL PULL MY SECOND. THANK YOU. YEAH. I'M FOR THAT.

DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THIS BOARD? BECAUSE I THINK AS IT SITS RIGHT NOW, YOU'RE LOOKING AT FOUR VOTES.

>> KEEP PLUGGING AWAY.

SUPERVISOR PLUMMER, I WOULD ASK IF THERE'S ANY VIDEO OR WHATEVER, AND I GET IT.

I THINK IT'S OKAY TO ASK THOSE QUESTIONS, AND THEN PLEASE REACH OUT TO SUPERVISOR PLUMMER AND WORK ON THAT VENDOR OF THAT.

I KNOW SOME CONSTITUENTS HAVE BROUGHT UP SOME THINGS ABOUT STREAMING CAPABILITIES AND ISSUES, WHICH I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO LOOK INTO THAT AS WELL.

HEY, LISTEN, AS A COMMUNITY, AND LET'S JUST CLOSE IT WITH THIS.

ELECTION STUFF ISN'T GOING AWAY.

WE SAW THAT YESTERDAY WITH OUR SITTING PRESIDENT OF WHERE IT'S GOING.

I THINK THE MORE TRANSPARENCY AND THE MORE COLLABORATION WE BRING THE BETTER.

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THANK YOU, SUPERVISOR PLUMMER, LONG, KELSTROM, AND HARMON ON THIS.

>> THANK YOU, SIR.

>> MOVING ON. I'M NOT SURE IF THE OPIOD PRESENTERS ARE HERE.

I'M JUST KIDDING. I KNOW THEY'RE HERE.

[LAUGHTER] MR. ROSS, COME ON UP, AS WELL.

IT'S A NO VOTE.

>> WE NEED A PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> MS. BLANKENSHIP, IF IT'S A NO VOTE.

>> IT WAS WRITTEN IN THE AGENDA AS A 45 VOTE.

>> HOLD ON. IF I MADE A MISTAKE.

>> CHAIR, BECAUSE WE DIDN'T TAKE ANY ACTION, WE DEFINITELY, BEFORE WE TAKE ACTION, WE WANT TO TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT, AND WE DIDN'T TAKE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT, SO WE SHOULD GO BACK.

>> ABSOLUTELY. TOTALLY MY BAD.

GUESS WHAT? I DIDN'T WAKE UP IN THE MORNING SAID, I'M GOING TO SCREW PEOPLE OUT OF PUBLIC COMMENT.

THAT'S MY MISTAKE. MY BAD. LET'S TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT.

MR. ROSS, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PUSH YOUR LUNCH PLANS BACK A LITTLE BIT YET, BUT HANG IN THERE.

MS. BLANKENSHIP, LET'S BRING THEM OUT.

>> MY APOLOGIES. I SHOULD HAVE CAUGHT THAT AS WELL.

>> NO. IT'S MY FAULT. THAT'S ON ME.

>> FIRST UP, WE HAVE LORI BRIDGEFORD, FOLLOWED BY MARGARET HANSEN, DON DUCKETT DELORS LUCERO.

IF I CALLED YOUR NAME, PLEASE GET IN QUEUE.

>> AS PEOPLE WALK UP, I WOULD JUST ASK YOU, WE HAVE THREE INDIVIDUALS HERE FROM THE ORGANIZATION, SCHOOL DISTRICTS.

I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO GET THEM BACK TO KIDS AS FAST AS POSSIBLE.

>> I WAS GOING TO SAY THAT UNTIL AFTER YOU WERE DONE, BUT WE DO HAVE 13 SPEAKERS, SO TIME WILL BE LIMITED.

>> TWO MINUTES. THANK YOU.

>> HOLD ON, LORI.

>> PEOPLE THAT ROBERT EXTRA HAS DONE VIDEO QUITE A FEW TIMES FOR CLINT CURTIS ON THE PROTOCOL AND HOW HE'D RUN IT WITH THE CAMERAS I BELIEVE IT'S ON RUMBLE.

JUST TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION ON THAT.

THEN HE'S GOING TO HAVE TO DO QUITE A BIT HERE IN A SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME.

I HOPE WE GET FULL SUPPORT FROM THE STAFF THAT'S REMAINING TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN, AND I'M GLAD WE'VE GOT SOME CAMERAS DONATED. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. COME ON UP.

>> MARGARET HANSEN, FOLLOWED BY DON DUCKETT, DOLORES LUCERO, THEN DAVID HALLIGAN.

>> I DON'T SEE DON. COME ON UP.

I'M SORRY, I DON'T SEE MARK. I SEE DON.

>> REAL QUICK HERE.

I'LL THROW A CURVE BALL AT YOU HERE.

I THINK YOU SHOULD GIVE HIM 125.

I'D ALSO LIKE YOU TO BE REMINDED THAT THE BOARD DOESN'T HAVE JURISDICTION OVER HOW HE RUNS THE ELECTIONS AS LONG AS HE FOLLOWS THE LAW.

I THINK YOU'RE DOING DUE DILIGENCE WITH THE BUDGET, BUT LET'S BE CAREFUL THAT WE DON'T CROSS THE LINE OF MICROMANAGING THE ELECTIONS PROCESS.

HE IS YOUR APPOINTED OFFICIAL, LIKE IT OR NOT.

WE HAVE AN ELECTION IN 10 MONTHS.

IT'S MY BELIEF THAT SOMEONE ELSE WILL BE THE ROV ELECTED AT THAT TIME, BUT RIGHT NOW, YOU HAVE TO LET HIM DO HIS JOB AND GIVE HIM THE RESOURCES THAT HE NEEDS TO DO THAT.

THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE]

>> NEXT UP, DOLORES LUCERO.

FOLLOWED BY DAVID HALLIGAN, ANTONIA, BENJAMIN NOWAIN, THEN LAURA HOBBS.

IF I CALLED YOUR NAME, PLEASE GET IN QUEUE.

>> THANK YOU. I WAS GOING TO SAY WE CAN GET IN QUEUE, THAT'D BE GREAT.

>> HOW MANY SPEAKERS?

>> THIRTEEN. TWO MINUTES.

>> JUST SO YOU KNOW ON THIS ITEM, CLINT CURTIS ALREADY BROKE THE LAW.

GOVERNMENT CODE 25355, RELATED TO GIFTS.

HE GOT A GIFT IN THE ELECTION DEPARTMENT.

DONATION. YOU CANNOT JUST GET A DONATION, 80 CAMERAS FOR THAT ELECTION DEPARTMENT HAS TO GO THROUGH THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS TO BE APPROVED BY THE SUPERVISOR.

HE'S GETTING THOSE CAMERAS.

DID YOU GUYS AUTHORIZE HIM TO GET FREE GIFTS IN THE ELECTION? HAS TO BE APPROVED BY YOU GUYS.

HE ALREADY BROKE THE LAW.

THERE YOU GO. YOU GUYS DON'T PAY ATTENTION.

WHY ARE WE GIVING HIM THIS GUY WHO ACTUALLY IS A SUPPORTER OF BLACK LIFE MATTER, MONEY TO RUN OUR ELECTION? SUPPOSEDLY, IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE THE MOST IMPORTANT DEPARTMENT AND YET, TIME AFTER TIME, YOU'VE GIVEN PEOPLE AND YOU PUT PEOPLE IN THE ELECTION DEPARTMENT TO MAKE DECISIONS IN OUR COUNTY THAT YOU CLAIM TO BE A REPUBLICANS.

HOW MANY PEOPLE DID YOU PUT IN THERE? YOU GOT RID OF KATHY DARLING.

SHE WAS A DEMOCRAT.

THOM TOLLER WAS A DEMOCRAT.

NOW YOU GOT HIM AS A DEMOCRAT, BUT NOT JUST A DEMOCRAT, BLACK LIFE MATTER SUPPORTER.

NOT EVEN THE MILITIA SUPPORTS HIM. I KNOW THAT.

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YOU'RE GOING TO GIVE HIM MONEY TO BASICALLY RUN OUR ELECTION.

DO WE TRUST HIM? I DON'T TRUST HIM.

HE KNOWS HOW TO FLIP THE ELECTION, THE VOTES.

YOU'RE PUTTING SOMEONE IN THERE.

SEE HOW OUR COUNTY IS STARTING TO LOOK LIKE YOU THREE DON'T EVEN HAVE A BRAIN TO MAKE DECISIONS TO REPRESENT THE PEOPLE.

DO YOU KNOW HOW BAD THAT LOOKS ON YOU?

>> DAVID HALLIGAN, FOLLOWED BY ANTONIA, BENJAMIN NOWAIN, LAURA HOBBS, THEN NICK GARDNER.

>> THANK YOU. MR. CRYE, YOU THANKED A LOT OF PEOPLE UP HERE ON THEIR PRESENTATIONS AND WHAT THEY HAD TO SAY, BUT I WANT TO THANK BRYCE BECAUSE HE SAID HE WAS ASKED, CAN YOU PULL THIS OFF? HE SAID, IT MIGHT BE POSSIBLE.

THAT WOULD SCARE ME, AND IT SHOULD SCARE YOU GUYS UP HERE.

SUPERVISORS, MR. CURTIS HAS BEEN THROWING A MAJOR CURVEBALL HERE WITH THIS POSSIBLE STATEWIDE REDISTRICTING BALLOT.

IT'S ONLY 77 DAYS TO NOVEMBER 4TH.

MR. CURTIS HASN'T EVEN RUN AN ELECTION ANYWHERE.

EVEN A SEASONED ROV WOULD FIND THIS ELECTION A HUGE, DAUNTING CHALLENGE.

MR. CURTIS CONCERN IS EQUIPMENT IN BUILDINGS.

I'M OKAY WITH ANOTHER FOUR TABULATORS.

LESAM, ESTIMATES HAVE THESE TABULATORS IN PLACE CAN TAKE US FROM 25 DAYS FOR RESULTS DOWN TO ONE OR TWO DAYS.

THIS COUNTY WOULD STILL BE LEADING THE STATE WITH EARLY RESULTS.

HOWEVER, THE EQUIPMENT AND E-BUILDING WON'T MATTER IF MR. CURTIS DOESN'T HAVE THE RIGHT PEOPLE IN PLACE.

THE RIGHT PEOPLE TRAINED TO EXECUTE, THE RIGHT VOTING CENTERS, THE RIGHT POLLING PLACES, AND ALL THE RIGHT PROCESSES IN PLACE.

BOARD, MR. CURTIS IS UP AT THE PLATE FOR THE SECOND TIME HERE TODAY. A ROOKIE.

LET'S SEE HOW HE DOES IN HITTING THE CURVEBALL BECAUSE IF LAST WEEK'S PRESENTATION, HIS FIRST AT BAT, WAS ANY INDICATOR, IT SHOWED HIS LACK OF A SOUND PLAN, HIS LACK OF DETAILED TIME PROCESSES, AND MR. CURTIS'S PRESENTATION WAS WEAK AT BEST.

AGAIN, SUPERVISORS, 77 DAYS TO THE ELECTION.

MAKE IT WORK THIS TIME WITH WHAT WE HAVE AND GIVE HIM THE DOLLARS FOR THE LEASE WITH OPTIONS TO BUY.

FOR GREATER TRANSPARENCY, ORGANIZED, PROVEN SYSTEMS WITH TRAINED EMPLOYEES THAT CAN EXECUTE AND PROMOTE TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY WILL FOSTER TRUST AND CONFIDENCE AMONG THE ELECTION TEAM AND THE VOTERS OF SHASTA COUNTY.

>> THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE]

>> ANTONIA, FOLLOWED BY BENJAMIN NOWAIN, LAURA HOBBS, NICK GARDNER, THEN BRAD GARBETT.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON, BOARD.

WELL, CLINT CURTIS SAID THAT WHAT HE WANTED TO DO IF HE WAS ELECTED AS ROV TO MAKE THINGS MORE TRANSPARENT AND SECURE FOR ELECTIONS.

THIS MONEY IS NECESSARY FOR HIM TO GET THIS ACCOMPLISHED.

THE PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT ELECTIONS.

I KNOW THIS BECAUSE I'VE BEEN COLLECTING SIGNATURES FOR VOTER ID, AND I HAVE IN CONTACT WITH THOUSANDS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE, AND WHAT THEIR INPUT IS, IS THAT THEY WANT TO HAVE TRANSPARENCY AND SECURITY IN THEIR ELECTIONS.

THEIR VOICE IS THAT THEY ARE KEEPING AN EYE ON WHO WANTS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH TRANSPARENCY AND SECURITY.

THEY ARE WATCHING, THEY ARE LISTENING, AND THEY ARE SIGNING OUR PETITIONS.

I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT BY GIVING CLINT GO FORWARD WITH THIS MONEY TO MAKE THINGS MORE TRANSPARENT, AND THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE ASKING.

WHAT IS BEING DONE? WHAT SOLUTIONS ARE BEING DONE TO THE ROV SO THAT THEY CAN MOVE FORWARD IN BRINGING MORE TRANSPARENCY.

THIS IS ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU TO MOVE FORWARD QUICKLY SO THAT HE CAN DO WHAT HE NEEDS TO DO.

THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE]

>> THANK YOU.

>> BENJAMIN NOWAIN, FOLLOWED BY LAURA HOBBS, NICK GARDNER, BRAD GARBETT, THEN JENNY.

IF I CALLED YOUR NAME, PLEASE GET IN QUEUE.

>> I'M ACTUALLY GOING TO SUPPORT THIS SCALE DOWN $125,000 PILOT PROJECT.

ON THE SURFACE, IT SEEMS MUCH MORE REASONABLE.

I'M PART OF QUITE A LARGE GROUP OF CITIZENS THAT ACTUALLY DID TRUST OUR ELECTIONS UP UNTIL NOW.

NOW WE'RE HAVING SOME CONCERNS.

BUT THIS IS A SMALLER STEP THAT ALLOWS THE ROV TO TEST AN IDEA BEFORE COMMITTING MAJOR RESOURCES.

I CAN RESPECT THAT APPROACH.

NOW, THAT SAID, I WANT TO RAISE SOME MAJOR CAUTION REGARDING THE TECHNOLOGY BEING DISCUSSED.

[03:00:01]

LEGALLY, THERE ARE RESTRICTIONS ON WHERE CAMERAS CAN BE PLACED, ESPECIALLY IN AREAS WHERE VOTER PRIVACY MUST BE PROTECTED.

THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THE COUNTY CAN JUST GLOSS OVER.

BUT TECHNICALLY, THE IDEA OF RUNNING EVERYTHING ON A WIRELESS SYSTEM IS NOT PRACTICAL AT SCALE.

A SINGLE HIGH DEFINITION CAMERA USES A LOT OF BANDWIDTH.

YOU PUT FIVE OR SIX ON THE SAME ROUTER AND YOU'VE ALREADY COME CLOSE TO SATURATING IT.

TRY ADDING DOZENS, WHICH IS WHAT WE WOULD BE NEEDED TO COVER THE ELECTIONS OFFICE, AND THE SYSTEM WILL GRIND TO A HALT.

THAT'S NOT EVEN TOUCHING ON THE SECURITY RISKS OF PUSHING ALL THIS THROUGH A WIRELESS SIGNAL INSTEAD OF A CONTROLLED WIRED SYSTEM.

I URGE YOU TO CONSULT WITH THE SHASTA COUNTY'S ID DEPARTMENT BEFORE MOVING FORWARD.

THEY ARE THOROUGH, PROFESSIONAL, AND EXTREMELY CAPABLE, AND I KNOW THIS BECAUSE I WORKED ALONGSIDE WITH THEM FOR MORE THAN A DECADE.

THEY WILL GIVE YOU A STRAIGHT ANSWER ABOUT WHAT WILL AND WHAT WON'T WORK.

I STILL HAVE MAJOR RESERVATIONS ABOUT MR. CURTIS'S ABILITY TO RUN A SUCCESSFUL ELECTION, BUT I'D LIKE HIM TO TRY, AND I AM SUPPORTIVE AS LONG AS HE FOLLOWS THE LAW.

>> THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE]

>> LAURA HOBBS, FOLLOWED BY NICK GARDNER, THEN BRAD GARBETT, JENNY, JIM BURNETT.

>> I'D LIKE TO BRIEFLY READ THIS.

A FRIEND OF MINE, BRUCE RUSSELL WROTE THIS.

HE SAYS, FREE, FAIR, AND PROVABLE ELECTIONS ARE THE BEDROCK OF PUBLIC TRUST AND GOVERNMENT.

WITHOUT THEM, OUR CONFIDENCE OF ROADS AND A CIVIC ENGAGEMENT SUFFERS.

THIS ISSUE SHOULD BE AMONG YOUR HIGHEST PRIORITIES.

THE ELECTORATE DESERVES ASSURANCE THAT EVERY VOTE IS COUNTED ACCURATELY AND SECURELY, AND THAT OUR DEMOCRATIC PROCESS IS BEYOND REPROACH.

SHASTA COUNTY'S BUDGET EXCEEDS 685 MILLION.

THE FUNDING REQUESTED FROM LAST WEEK WAS LESS THAN 4% OR 0.4% OF THAT TOTAL.

IT'S A VERY MODEST INVESTMENT.

FOR SOMETHING SO FOUNDATIONAL AS OUR DEMOCRACY, PRIORITIZING ELECTION INTEGRITY OVER LESS ESSENTIAL EXPENDITURES IS NOT JUST FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE, IT'S A MORAL IMPERATIVE.

THIS IS A VERY WELL WRITTEN LETTER, BUT IN SHORT, YOU GUYS JUST SPENT $5 MILLION AT THE BLINK OF AN EYE FOR A PARKING LOT.

BUT YOU WON'T EVEN SHELL OUT 125,000 FOR SOME BASIC NECESSITIES FOR ELECTION TRANSPARENCY.

THIS IS JUST BLATANT POLITICIZING.

HE'S ASKING FOR NICKELS ON THE DOLLAR OF WHAT HE INITIALLY WANTED, AND YOU STILL WON'T APPROVE IT.

IT JUST DOES NOT MAKE SENSE.

IT SEEMS LIKE YOU ARE TRYING TO INTENTIONALLY STALL DELAY AND BE A COG IN THE WORKS FOR WHAT THE CITIZENS REALLY WANT IN THIS COUNTY, WHICH IS A TRANSPARENT ELECTION.

WE'VE SPOKEN TO THOUSANDS OF CITIZENS NOW WHO HAVE SIGNED OUR PETITION AND THAT WANT THIS.

THEY WANT TRANSPARENT ELECTIONS THAT THEY CAN TRUST.

TO GO AGAINST THAT, I IMPLORE YOU TO TAKE A VOTE, EVEN IF YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO BE VOTING NO, ALL FIVE OF YOU, BECAUSE THE PUBLIC NEEDS TO KNOW AND TO SEE.

THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT DON'T WANT ELECTION REFORM AT THIS POINT ARE THE LIBERALS AND THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.

THAT'S THE WAY IT LOOKS. [APPLAUSE]

>> I'M GOING TO HELP ARTICULATE SOMETHING BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW GOVERNMENT WORKS.

IF WE VOTE AND IT'S A 3/5 VOTE, THE MOTION DOES NOT PASS.

YOU NEED 4/5 VOTE ON THIS ITEM, SO TO TAKE ITEMS AND IT FAILS, THEN IT DOESN'T COME BACK.

MR. GARDNER, WELCOME BACK, SIR.

>> THANK YOU. YOU'VE GOT TO TAKE YOUR HAT OFF TO CLINT CURTIS, YOU JUST HAMSTRING HIM AND CUT HIM OFF AT THE KNEES, AND HE SMILES, AND HE SAYS, I CAN MAKE IT WORK.

THAT'S WHY WE WANTED HIM, AND THAT'S WHY WE CONVINCED THREE SUPERVISORS TO VOTE HIM IN.

MR. LONG, IT'S CLEAR TO ME YOU'RE SLOW WALKING THIS, JUST TRYING TO RUN IT OUT OF TIME.

WHEN YOU SAID THAT THE COUNTY CAN'T AFFORD $125,000, THAT'S GOING TO RUN OUR FUNDS DOWN TOO FAR, THAT STILL LEAVES $2.5 MILLION IN THE FUNDS.

IF YOU'RE SO CONCERNED ABOUT THE FUNDS OF THE COUNTY, WHY DON'T YOU DONATE YOUR $85,000 YOU'RE MAKING FOR SITTING UP THERE TO THE COUNTY BECAUSE I THINK YOU CAN PROBABLY GET BY ON 150,000 CALPERS EACH YEAR.

[APPLAUSE] THANK YOU, WHOEVER YOU WERE.

HE ISN'T ASKING FOR MUCH.

WE'VE GOT THREE VOTES HERE.

THE SWING VOTE IS MATT PLUMMER.

CLINT CURTIS IS GOING TO DO EVERYTHING HE POSSIBLY CAN TO SATISFY MATT PLUMMER AND MATT, I URGE YOU TO VOTE YES ON THIS BECAUSE IT'S CLEAR THAT'S WHAT WE WANT.

WE WANT CLEAR TRANSPARENT ELECTIONS, AND HOPEFULLY THIS WON'T COME UP AGAIN BECAUSE OUR PRESIDENT TRUMP

[03:05:01]

[APPLAUSE] IT'S TOO BAD HE DIDN'T DO THIS SIX MONTHS AGO. THANK YOU.

>> BRAD GARBETT, FOLLOWED BY JENNY, JIM BURNETT, NATHAN BLAZE.

>> WELCOME.

>> THANK YOU. WE'RE LEARNING NOW THAT WHEN WE DUMPED DOMINION AND BOUGHT THIS STRIPPED DOWN HEART SYSTEM, THAT NOW THEY HAVE TO COME BACK AND ASK FOR MORE MONEY SO THAT WE CAN GET EQUIPMENT THAT WILL MATCH THE DOMINION SYSTEM.

BASICALLY, WHEN WE BOUGHT HART, WE GOT A STRIP DOWN HUGO, AND WE REPLACED A CADILLAC THAT WAS LOADED WITH EVERY OPTION.

ROV CURTIS IS ASKING FOR MONEY, SO WE CAN GET CLOSER TO WHAT WE HAD WITH DOMINION.

THE CAMERAS WOULD HAVE TO BE APPROVED BY THE SECRETARY OF STATE.

YOU CANNOT ELIMINATE THE ANONYMITY THAT IS PART AND PARCEL OF OUR VOTING SYSTEM.

STOP THROWING MONEY AT THE ROV TO RESTORE TRUST.

ALL BUT A HANDFUL OF PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE TODAY TRUST OUR ELECTIONS.

YOU ARE PERPETUATING THE BIG LIE.

TRUMP LOST THE 2020 ELECTION BY A LANDSLIDE.

NO FRAUD, GET OVER IT ALREADY.

LEASING DOMINION WAS MUCH BETTER THAN BUYING HART.

BIGGEST EXPENSE IN RUNNING ELECTIONS IS SOFTWARE, NOT HARDWARE.

WE ARE STUCK WITH HARDWARE THAT WHEN OUTDATED OR BREAKS DOWN, WILL NEED TO BE REPLACED AT TAXPAYER EXPENSE.

LEAST EQUIPMENT WOULD BE MAINTAINED AND REPLACED AS NECESSARY BY THE VENDOR.

WE NEED LOCAL CONTROL OF OUR ELECTIONS YET YOU APPOINT A GUY FROM FLORIDA TO RUN OUR ELECTIONS.

TOTAL HYPOCRISY FROM CRYE, KELSTROM, AND HARMON.

DON'T GIVE HIM ANY MORE MONEY.

[APPLAUSE]

>> THANK YOU.

>> JENNY, FOLLOWED BY JIM BURNETT, THEN NATHAN BLAZE.

>> NOT TO BE IMPERTINENT, BUT MAY I ASK WHY THE ORIGINAL BUDGET WAS FINE FOR THOM TOLLER AND JOAN FRANCISCO TO WORK WITH, BUT NOT FOR CLINT CURTIS.

THE BOARD LECTURED SEVERAL DEPARTMENTS, INCLUDING THE ELECTIONS OFFICE THAT THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO WORK WITH THE MONEY THEY HAVE.

CLINT CURTIS HASN'T PRODUCED ANYTHING.

HE HASN'T RUN ANYTHING.

HE DOESN'T EVEN KNOW WHAT HE NEEDS YET.

SHOULDN'T YOU FIND OUT IF HE CAN EVEN RUN THE ELECTION BEFORE YOU FUNNEL MORE MONEY AT HIM? YOU'RE INCONSISTENT, YOU PLAY FAVORITES.

THE GOVERNMENT ISN'T SUPPOSED TO RUN THAT WAY [APPLAUSE]

>> THANK YOU.

>> BURNETT, FOLLOWED BY NATHAN BLAZE.

>> WELCOME.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON. OUR ELECTIONS DEPARTMENT NEEDS TO BE TOTALLY NONPARTISAN ABOVE THE POLITICAL FRAY THAT ENGULFS US AT EVERY BOARD MEETING.

WE ARE SHARPLY DIVIDED OVER WHO SHOULD BE OUR ROV, AND THIS DIVIDE WILL LIKELY GET WIDER AND MORE CONTENTIOUS AS WE MOVE TOWARDS THE ELECTION NEXT YEAR.

THIS IS BECAUSE WE HAVE A FAITH BASED ELECTION SYSTEM, WHERE THERE IS AN UNHEALTHY RELIANCE ON WHO THE ROV IS INSTEAD OF RELYING ON AN EVIDENCE BASED SYSTEM THAT BECOMES FULLY TRANSPARENT AND UNDERSTANDABLE TO THE AVERAGE CITIZEN.

IT SHOULD NOT MATTER WHO THE ROV IS IF WE IMPLEMENT A SYSTEM THAT HAS MEANINGFUL OBSERVATION AT EVERY STEP AND COMPREHENSIVE CHAINS OF CUSTODY THAT PREVENT ANY CHANCE OF MISHANDLING BALLOTS.

CLINT CURTIS WANTS TO DEVISE A FULLY TRANSPARENT PROCESS THAT EVERYONE CAN SEE WITH THEIR OWN EYES THAT EVERY BALLOT WAS CORRECTLY HANDLED, COUNTED, RECORDED, AND REPORTED WITHOUT ERROR.

FURTHER, HE WANTS TO VIDEO OF EVERY BALLOT COUNTING PROCESS SO THAT WE CAN VERIFY THE ACCURACY OF THE COUNT AND HAVE A DIGITAL RECORD OF THE COUNT.

LET'S GIVE OUR CURRENT ROV THE RESOURCES FOR TURNING OUR FAITH BASED.

I TRUST MY ROV SYSTEM INTO AN EVIDENCE BASED SYSTEM.

IT SHOULDN'T MATTER WHO THE ROV IS IF WE HAVE A GOOD SYSTEM. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU [APPLAUSE]

>> NATHAN BLAZE, AND THAT'S OUR LAST SPEAKER.

>> GOOD MORNING, BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.

I AGREE WITH PUTTING THE ELECTIONS OFFICE IN A NEW LOCATION, THAT MAKES SENSE, I THINK THAT'S BEEN A NONPARTISAN ISSUE THAT PEOPLE ON BOTH SIDES HAVE WANTED FOR A WHILE.

I DON'T QUITE AGREE WITH JOANNA'S MAINLY JUST BECAUSE I THINK DURING THE ELECTION SEASON, IT'LL BOTTLENECK AN ALREADY HIGH TRAFFIC AREA OF TOWN.

I COULD SEE THAT AS BEING A PROBLEM.

BUT ASIDE FROM THAT, WHAT SPARKED MY INTEREST WAS LISTENING TO MR. CURTIS' LAST PRESENTATION.

JUST SOME OF THE THINGS THAT HE SAID WERE THEY REALLY STUCK OUT TO ME AS I FELT HE MAYBE JUST DIDN'T QUITE HAVE A BASIC UNDERSTANDING OF THE TECHNOLOGY HE WAS TALKING ABOUT.

[03:10:03]

IF YOU'VE EVER SEEN ANY TWITCH STREAM, YOUTUBE STREAM, LIKE SOMEONE'S STREAMING VIDEO GAMES OR SOMETHING, THAT'S THE PROGRAM THAT THEY USE.

I'VE USED IT PLENTY.

I HAVE A PRETTY NICE COMPUTER AND JUST RUNNING LIKE A 10 ADP WEBCAM, THROUGH THAT, JUST ONE OF THEM TO STREAM LIKE A GAME OR ANYTHING.

IT TAKES A LOT OF COMPUTING POWER.

HE MENTIONED THAT OBS CAN ADMIT A WI-FI SIGNAL.

IT'S JUST TECHNICALLY NOT POSSIBLE BECAUSE IT'S A PROGRAM.

AGAIN, OBS WOULD HAVE TO BE RUNNING ON A COMPUTER THAT IS PUTTING OUT A WI-FI SIGNAL.

NO TALK OF COMPUTERS WERE MENTIONED.

IF HE'S TALKING ABOUT LIKE 80 CAMERAS, YOU'RE TALKING REALLY A LOT OF COMPUTING POWER THAT'S GOING TO BE REALLY EXPENSIVE TO RUN THESE LIVE STREAMS IN FULL QUALITY AND KEEP THEM GOING.

ON TOP OF THAT, IF HE'S LOOKING TO RECORD ANY OF THIS FOOTAGE TO HAVE FOR, FUTURE USE OR WHATEVER? THAT'S GOING TO TAKE A WHOLE LOT OF STORAGE SPACE AS WELL.

I JUST HOPE THAT YOU GUYS ASK HIM QUESTIONS, HOW THIS IS ACTUALLY GOING TO BE POSSIBLE BECAUSE BEEN BROUGHT UP, IT'S GOING TO BE, LIKE I SAID, REALLY DIFFICULT TO HAVE THAT MANY CAMERAS STREAMING IN A HIGH ENOUGH DEFINITION CONSISTENTLY WITHOUT LAG, IF IT'S NOT DONE PROPERLY AND DONE WITH WIRES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> THANK YOU.

>> CHAIR, THAT WAS OUR LAST SPEAKER.

>> DID MR. CURTIS TAKE OFF?

>> HE'S IN THE HALLWAY.

>> HE'S IN THE HALLWAY. HE'S COMING BACK IN.

COUNSEL LARMOUR, WE DON'T NEED TO DO A SYMBOLIC VOTE SUPERVISOR THIS NEEDS FOUR FIFTHS.

SUPERVISOR PLUMMER, YOU CAN WE TALK ABOUT IT OR I DON'T DISAGREE AND TRYING TO BE HONORING TO YOU AND NOT PIN YOU DOWN, BECAUSE PEOPLE DON'T GET IT.

THEY CAN HERE AND SCREAM AND YELL AT YOU AND IT DOES MR. CURTIS AND THE ELECTIONS NO GOOD.

YOU'RE THERE. IF IT TAKES AN EXTRA WEEK.

I'D LIKE TO GET YOU THERE FASTER, BECAUSE TO ME, HE'S AN ELECTED OFFICIAL.

I DO APPRECIATE THE COMMENT MADE BY THE SPEAKER SAYING, HEY, I'M REALLY TRYING NOT TO MICROMANAGE.

THAT, HEY, IF YOU COULD, JUST MAYBE NOT TALK, YOU HAD YOUR TIME.

APPRECIATE IT. I CAN MAKE A MOTION JUST TO BRING THIS BACK.

BUT I'M JUST CURIOUS BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, IF WE WERE TO APPROVE THIS 125, AND IT GOES INTO HIS ACCOUNT, AND THEN HE REALIZES WITH OUR PARKING EXPERT, I'M JUST KIDDING BRYCE.

BUT WITH BRYCE AND ANALYSTS AND THEY SAY, HEY, TIMING WISE, WE CAN'T DO IT, THEN IF HE GOES OUT AND WASTES THAT THAT'S GOING TO BE AT HIS PERIL.

I DON'T THINK HE'S GOING TO DO THAT.

HE'S DONE THE WORK OF DOING WHAT HE'S ASKED SO FAR.

I'M JUST ASKING BECAUSE WE CAN BRING IT BACK.

>> YEAH, NO, I STILL WANT TO BRING IT BACK BECAUSE IN ORDER FOR THIS TO BE. [OVERLAPPING]

>> I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION, WE BRING IT BACK.

>> SURE.

>> IS THAT A SECOND?

>> YES.

>> I WANT TO GET MR. ROSS, MS. BARRY, AND MS. COLTON LUNCH.

I MADE A MOTION TO BRING IT BACK, SECONDED BY SUPERVISOR PLUMMER.

MR. CURTIS, WORK VERY CLOSELY.

I DON'T THINK THIS CHANGES ANYTHING OTHER THAN THE FACT THAT YOU JUST DON'T HAVE THAT IN YOUR ACCOUNT.

YOU HAVE THREE VOTES, FOR SURE.

YOU HAVE TO CONVINCE MR. PLUMMER, GET HIM WHAT HE NEEDS.

PUT YOUR STAFF ON THAT.

THANK YOU, MR. PLUMMER, OR SUPERVISOR PLUMMER FOR YOUR OPENNESS.

PEOPLE THAT ARE WANTING IT NOW.

YOU SHOULD BE VERY, I DON'T WANT TO SAY THANKFUL, BUT SUPERVISOR PLUMMER OPEN.

HE'S MOVING THAT DIRECTION.

LET'S HELP HIM GET THERE, AND LET'S MOVE OUR ELECTIONS IN A VERY TRANSPARENT WAY.

THAT'S THE MOTION. WE'LL START WITH A ROLL CALL VOTE TO MY RIGHT.

>> SUPERVISOR PLUMMER?

>> YES.

>> SUPERVISOR HARMON?

>> YES.

>> SUPERVISOR CRYE?

>> YES.

>> SUPERVISOR KELSTROM?

>> YES.

>> SUPERVISOR LONG?

>> NO.

>> PASSES 4-1. THANK YOU, MR. CURTIS.

NOW, WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, WE HAVE R7.

[R7 Receive a presentation from Community Opioid Response and Education (C.O.R.E.) regarding the substance use prevention and education in youth program funded by Opioid Settlement dollars.]

>> THANK YOU GUYS FOR YOUR PATIENCE.

>> THANK YOU. I THINK WE'RE WAITING FOR THE PRESENTATION TO LOAD.

GOOD MORNING, WELL, AFTERNOON.

CHAIR AND BOARD MEMBERS.

THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO SHARE OUR PROGRESS ON THE OPIOID SETTLEMENT FUND.

AS YOU KNOW, WE ARE CORE, WHICH IS THE COMMUNITY OPIOID RESPONSE TEAM WITH THE MISSION TO REDUCE SUBSTANCE USE OUR COMMUNITY AWARENESS, DIRECT PREVENTION SERVICES, AND EARLY INTERVENTION.

I'M GOING TO START OFF TO JUST HIGHLIGHT HOW

[03:15:03]

IN THE DIRECT PREVENTION REALM, OUR GOAL REALLY IS TO STRENGTHEN THE PROTECTIVE FACTORS THAT HELP YOUTH AND FAMILIES THRIVE.

IN JUNE, SIX OF OUR YOUTH COURT LEADERS WENT TO UC RIVERSIDE FOR THE YOUTH COURT SUMMIT, AND THEY GAINED STATEWIDE TRAINING AND JUSTICE, ADVOCACY, AND SUBSTANCE USE PREVENTION.

OUR PEER ADVOCATE TEAM OR LEADERSHIP, THEY ARE LAUNCHING THIS MONTH.

THEY'VE JUST GONE THROUGH A WHOLE SERIES OF INTERVIEWS, AND WE'RE EQUIPPING STUDENT MENTORS TO LEAD WORKSHOPS AND TO MODEL POSITIVE CHOICES IN THEIR SCHOOLS.

OUR PARENT DISCUSSION GROUP OFFERS MONTHLY TOOLS TO SUPPORT EARLY WARNING SIGN RECOGNITIONS AND REALLY BUILDING THE STRONGER RELATIONSHIPS AT HOME, WHICH IS PARAMOUNT.

IN JULY, WE HAVE THE SHASTA LEADERSHIP CAMP OF 150 MIDDLE SCHOOL CAMPERS AND HIGH SCHOOL COUNSELORS.

THEY JOINED TOGETHER FOR FOUR DAYS OF LEADERSHIP TRAINING, HELPING THEM TO RESIST DRUGS, GANGS, BULLYING, AND VIOLENCE, WHILE BUILDING POSITIVE RELATIONSHIPS.

IN OUR EARLY INTERVENTION, IT MEANS REALLY STEPPING IN WHEN WE SEE THE FIRST SIGNS OF RISKY BEHAVIOR.

OUR CASE MANAGEMENT AND MENTORING THROUGH OUR PEER COURT PROGRAM REALLY PROVIDES INDIVIDUALIZED GUIDANCE THAT HELPS SET GOALS, ACCESS RESOURCES, AND BUILD LASTING SKILLS FOR SUCCESS.

WE'RE THRILLED TO ANNOUNCE OF OUR TWO NEW CASE MANAGERS THAT GOT HIRED THIS MONTH THAT ARE REALLY A JOY TO JOIN THE TEAM.

THE AGGRESSION REPLACEMENT TRAINING.

THAT IS THE CLASS THAT REALLY TEACHES THE PRACTICAL ANGER AND CONTROL, MORAL REASONING AND DECISION MAKING.

EACH OF THESE SKILLS ARE CRUCIAL IN BUILDING RESISTANCE TO SUBSTANCE USE.

WE COMPLETED THE COHORT IN JULY WITH 11 PARTICIPANTS.

THROUGH THE SAFETY FIRST, STUDENTS LEARN HOW DRUGS AFFECT THEIR BRAIN, BODY, AND HOW TO MAKE HEALTHIER CHOICES AND POSITIVE WAYS TO COPE WITH STRESS BY BUILDING PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY.

AT THE END OF THIS MONTH, OR ACTUALLY NEXT WEEK, WE'LL HOLD OUR PEER COURT RECRUITMENT EVENT, INVITING LOCAL TEENS TO HELP IN OUR RESTORATIVE JUSTICE PROGRAM.

THEY GAIN HANDS ON LEADERSHIP EXPERIENCE AND HELP THEIR PEERS TAKE ACTIVE ACCOUNTABILITY ON REAL CASES SENT FOR DIVERSION THROUGH JUVENILE PROBATION AND FROM SCHOOLS.

SINCE JUNE, DOZENS OF YOUTH AND PARENTS HAVE ENGAGED IN THESE PREVENTION AND INTERVENTION STRATEGIES, STRENGTHENING OUR FAMILIES AND HELPING KIDS MAKE BETTER CHOICES.

WE CONTINUE TO WORK HAND IN HAND WITH OUR COMMUNITY PARTNERS TO ENSURE THAT ALL THE SHASTA COUNTY YOUTH RECEIVE THE BEST OUR COMMUNITY HAS TO OFFER.

>> I REPRESENT THE OTHER ORGANIZATION THAT IS HELPING COORDINATE THINGS.

WE'VE BEEN WORKING REALLY CLOSELY AS A TEAM TO REALLY GET A COMMUNITY WIDE ENGAGEMENT, NOT JUST OUR TWO ORGANIZATIONS DOING THE WORK.

RAISING SHASTA HAS REALLY TAKEN THE LEAD ON THAT.

WE HAVE CONTINUED TO PROVIDE MENTORING OVER THE SUMMER AND DIFFERENT THINGS, BUT WE HAVE REALLY ENJOYED HAVING THESE TWO MONTHS OVER THE SUMMER BEFORE SCHOOL STARTED WITHIN THIS CONTRACT, TO BE ABLE TO REALLY GEAR UP WELL SO THAT WE START THE SCHOOL YEAR WELL WITH THE RIGHT INFORMATION AND THE RIGHT THINGS IN PLACE.

WE HAVE BEEN REALLY LOOKING INTO WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE TO DO PARENT SUPPORT.

WE DO PARENT CLASSES HERE IN SHASTA COUNTY, BUT SPECIFICALLY IN READING AND ANDERSON.

BUT WE'VE BEEN TALKING WITH SOME COMMUNITY PARTNERS ABOUT BEING ABLE TO MOVE ALL THE WAY OUT TO FALL RIVER AND BERNIE AND PROVIDE THOSE SAME CLASSES THAT WE DO HERE WITH EXCELLENCE OUT THERE IN PARTNERSHIP SO THAT THERE'S CONTINUED RESOURCES AFTER THE PARENT CAFE ENDS.

THAT'S REALLY EXCITING FOR US TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE THESE REALLY WONDERFUL PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE HERE AND GIVE THEM TO THE FARTHER REACHES OF SHASTA COUNTY, AND THIS FUNDING IS ALLOWING US TO DO THAT.

IN ALL OF THAT IS TALKING ABOUT SUBSTANCE USE PREVENTION AND WHAT THE PARENTS ROLE IS IN SUBSTANCE USE PREVENTION.

WE CONTINUE TO USE SERVICES WORK.

OUR POW PROGRAM.

WE SHUT DOWN THE GYM FOR JUST A LITTLE WHILE TO DO SOME RENOVATIONS.

WE HAD BEEN SHARING THE GYM SPACE WITH A KITCHEN, AND WE'RE REMOVING THE KITCHEN IN ORDER TO HAVE BETTER SAFETY FOR OUR KIDS AND EXPAND THAT.

THAT WILL BE RELAUNCHING HERE AS THE SCHOOL YEAR STARTS WHEN OUR TEEN CENTERS HAVE THE HIGHEST CENSUS OF STUDENTS AND KIDS COMING THROUGH, BUT WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THE WAY THAT THAT WILL BE REALLY A SPACE DEDICATED TO OUR ATHLETES.

THEN WE WILL BE ALSO LAUNCHING ALL OF OUR SCHOOL BASED MENTORING PROGRAMS.

[03:20:05]

THOSE CONTRACTS HAVE TAKEN A LITTLE WHILE BECAUSE IT'S NEW TO THEM TO HAVE US IN THEIR SPACE, BUT WE'RE EXCITED TO HAVE THE TIME TO GET THAT DONE BEFORE THE SCHOOL YEAR STARTS.

BUT THE BIGGEST THING, I THINK THAT WE'VE ALL ACCOMPLISHED OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS IS REALLY THIS COMMUNITY AWARENESS.

THERE HAS BEEN A LONG STANDING SUBSTANCE USE COALITION THAT HAS STRUGGLED TO GET ON THE SAME PAGE AND DOING THE SAME WORK.

IT HAS BEEN REALLY AMAZING OVER THE LAST THREE MONTHS TO SEE A UNIFIED VISION FOR SUBSTANCE USE PREVENTION IN OUR COUNTY.

SO MUCH SO THAT WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO SOLIDIFY SURVEYS THAT WE WILL ALL BE USING.

AT OUR LAST MEETING, WHICH WAS THIS MONTH, WE WERE ABLE TO COME UP WITH A SURVEY THAT ALL OF OUR PARTNERS AND ALL OF THE PEOPLE ON THAT PANEL WILL BE USING, SO THAT WE'LL HAVE UNIFIED DATA.

WE CAME UP WITH OUR FIRST DRAFT.

WE HAVE GONE THROUGH EDITS, AND NOW WE HAVE IT WITH THE COUNTY.

EXCUSE MY STRUGGLE WITH THIS WORD.

BUT EPIDEMOLOGIST TO REVIEW AND MAKE SURE THAT THE QUESTIONS THAT WE'RE USING ARE AGE APPROPRIATE AND WE MEET THE MARKERS THAT WE NEED.

WE HAD THE EXPERTS THAT ARE IN THE FIELD WITH OUR COUNTY SUPPORTS.

OUR COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAVE DONE THIS WORK FOR A LONG TIME CAME WITH THE QUESTIONS THAT THEY FEEL LIKE WOULD MAKE THE MOST SENSE FOR US.

THEN WE WERE ABLE TO TAKE IT AND MAKE SURE THAT IT'S EVIDENCE BASED, AND THAT WE'RE FOLLOWING THE RIGHT PROTOCOLS.

IT IS CURRENTLY WITH THEM, AND WE'RE WAITING FOR A FINAL REVIEW OF THOSE.

ONCE THAT'S READY, WE'LL BE ABLE TO LAUNCH THAT WITH MOST OF THE SCHOOL PROGRAMS THAT START IN SEPTEMBER, WHICH WON'T JUST BE RAISING SHASTA.

WE'LL BE ALSO COMMUNITY PARTNERS THAT ARE ON THAT SUBSTANCE USE COALITION.

EXCITED TO HAVE SOME UNIFIED DATA AROUND KIDS AWARENESS OF SUBSTANCE USE.

THEY'RE COMFORTABLE HOW COMFORTABLE THEY ARE WITH SUBSTANCES AND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE FOR US.

BEING ABLE TO HAVE BASELINES FOR US, AND THEN THAT WILL GO INTO OUR SURVEYS AT THE END, WHICH SHOW HOW OUR PROGRAMS ARE SUCCESSFUL.

WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO HAVE THAT.

IT'S A BIG STEP FOR OUR COMMUNITY TO HAVE THIS MUCH COLLABORATION AND BUY IN.

WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO BE MOVING NEXT INTO THE STAGES OF WHAT IS A COMMUNITY WIDE CAMPAIGN LOOK LIKE, WHERE WE'RE ALL USING SIMILAR LANGUAGE AND GETTING PARENTS AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS ENGAGED IN THE CONVERSATION AROUND YOUTH SUBSTANCE USE.

>> THANK YOU. MR. ROSS.

>> QUICK, GO AHEAD AND COME ON UP. YOU'VE WAITED THIS LONG.

I JUST WANT TO TELL YOU, I KNOW FROM LAST YEAR WHEN WE STARTED THIS, THIS WAS VERY OUT OF THE BOX.

I REALLY APPRECIATE ALL THREE OF YOU, I'M JUST BRINGING HIM UP BECAUSE HE DIDN'T HE DIDN'T PRESENT ANYTHING.

SO I WANT TO GIVE HIM HIS AIR TIME.

NO, BUT I REALLY APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE.

WHAT HAS BEEN THE FEEDBACK FROM OTHER SUPERINTENDENTS IN THE COUNTY ABOUT THE EFFORTS THAT YOU'RE TAKING?

>> WELL, WE REALLY HAVEN'T MET AS SUPERINTENDENTS.

OUR FIRST MEETING AS SUPERINTENDENTS IS NEXT WEEK.

I JUST MET WITH THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE ON THE AGENDA FOR NEXT WEEK.

I WAS HOPING COY AND RENA HAD APPROACHED ME WITH A FLYER THAT THEY'RE FROM PUBLIC HEALTH.

THEY HAD APPROACHED ME WITH A FLYER THAT THEY WANTED TO HAVE ME CIRCULATE AND THEN I SUBMITTED THAT TO THE EXECUTIVE TEAM FOR THE SUPERINTENDENT'S MEETING AND THEN I JUST BROUGHT IT UP TO COREY AND RENA.

LAST WEEK AT OUR MEETING, AND THEY SAID THEY'RE CHANGING DIRECTION, SO IT'S NOT GOING TO BE ON THAT AGENDA.

I DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT THE FEEDBACK IS FROM ALL THE SUPERINTENDENTS, BUT I THINK IN OUR CONVERSATIONS, THIS LITTLE GROUP'S CONVERSATIONS WITH MR. PLUMMER EARLY ON ABOUT DATA AND COLLECTING SURVEY DATA.

THAT'S A GOOSE BUMP MOMENT FOR ME, SITTING IN THAT ROOM WITH THESE PARTNERS AND THE PREPARATION THAT THEY HAVE DONE AND GETTING MULTIPLE AGENCIES TOGETHER TO AGREE TO ADMIT THE SAME SURVEYS ACROSS ALL THESE DIFFERENT AGENCIES IS A HUGE ACCOMPLISHMENT.

>> IT'S GONE WAY BETTER THAN I COULD HAVE EVER ANTICIPATED YOUR GUYS AS GROUP DOING.

IS MISS AMANDA FAITH, IS SHE STILL CONNECTED IN SOME CAPACITY?

>> YEAH. SHE'S STILL COMING TO ALL THE MEETINGS SHE WORKS WITH US REALLY WELL, AND SHE'S A GREAT LIKE SUPPORT TO US, AND WE FILTER A LOT OF THINGS THROUGH HER.

SHE JUST TRAVELS QUITE A BIT FOR HER ADVOCACY.

SHE JOINS US A LOT VIA ZOOM AND SHE CHECKS IN WITH US, BUT SHE'S NOT OFTEN WITH US IN PERSON, BUT SHE'S WONDERFUL TO HAVE AS A PARENT RESOURCE.

>> I KNOW THAT THIS WAS SOMETHING WE VOTED TO BRING YOU BACK BEFORE THE SCHOOL YEAR WE BRING YOU BACK IN DECEMBER OR JANUARY NEXT.

I KNOW IT WAS A LONG TIME WAITING FOR THE EIGHT OR 10 MINUTES, BUT I THINK THIS JUST THIS PULSE OF CHECKING IN AND MOVING FORWARD.

I'M JUST REALLY THANKFUL FOR THE WORK YOU GUYS DO.

[03:25:02]

>> REALLY GRATEFUL FOR.

>> IT'S WORK AND ITEMS THAT ARE IT'S LONG OVERDUE.

THE COLLABORATION HASN'T BEEN DONE.

WE'VE DONE IT. YOU GUYS ARE KILLING IT. THANK YOU.

IT IS A NO VOTE ITEM, SO WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON.

THANK YOU, MR. ROSS. THANK YOU, MISS BARRY. THANK YOU, MISS COLTER.

ALL RIGHT. GOING TO LOOKING AT.

[APPLAUSE] OH, SUPERVISOR PLUMMER.

>> CAN YOU GUYS ACTUALLY HOLD ON ONE MINUTE? JENNIFER. SORRY.

>> SO FINE.

>> I WANTED TO ECHO THE THANKS IN TERMS OF GETTING TO UNIFIED DATA AND AND THE FOCUS ON COLLABORATION AND BRINGING EVERYONE TO THE TABLE. I APPRECIATE THAT.

I DID WANT TO REQUEST, AND I KNOW THIS IS A WEIRD UPDATE IN THE SENSE THAT IT'S BEFORE YOU'VE REALLY GOTTEN STARTED.

BUT, JUST LOOKING BACK AT THE MARCH 18 PRESENTATION THAT YOU ALL GAVE, SLIDES 4 THROUGH SIX WHERE YOU LAY OUT THE NUMBERS OF GOALS FOR EACH OF THOSE.

IN THE NEXT UPDATE, IT WOULD BE GREAT TO SEE HERE'S WHERE WE WERE.

HERE'S WHAT OUR GOAL WAS, AND HERE'S WHERE WE'RE PROJECTED TO BE BY THE END OF THIS SCHOOL YEAR, JUST TO GIVE US A SENSE OF THAT TYPE OF UPDATE.

THAT WOULD HELP US TIE IT TO WHAT WAS LAID OUT IN THAT MARCH 18TH PRESENTATION.

>> ABSOLUTELY. I THINK FOR US WE WERE CONTRACTING TOOK A LITTLE WHILE.

WHEN WE STARTED IN JUNE, I THINK ALL OF US WERE THINKING NEXT AUGUST AND SO IT WOULD BE FEBRUARY WAS OUR FIRST OR JANUARY WAS OUR FIRST REVIEW.

SO WE JUST HAD A MINUTE OF TRYING TO GET THAT TOGETHER BECAUSE A LOT OF THE WORK ESPECIALLY FOR RAISING SHASTA.

A LOT OF THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW IS THE CONTRACTING, THE GETTING POLICIES IN PLACE, GETTING THE SURVEYS IN PLACE SO THAT WE CAN GET THE DATA SO THAT WE CAN DO THE WORK IN ORDER TO BE IN THE SCHOOLS IN ORDER TO DO ALL THE THINGS, WE HAVE ALL THE PAPERWORK.

A LOT OF THE SUMMER HAS BEEN ADMINISTRATION, BUT THE EXCITING PART WILL BE WHEN WE GET TO GIVE MORE UPDATES AND I AGREE WE WILL DEFINITELY BE BRINGING THAT IN OUR NEXT UPDATE IN JANUARY.

>> ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU.

>> SINCE WE TOOK SOME QUESTIONS. THANK YOU GUYS.

APPRECIATE IT. WE'LL TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT.

DO WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENTERS?

>> WE HAVE JUST ONE PUBLIC COMMENTER, DOLORES LUCERO.

OH, SORRY, TWO AND JENNY.

>> COME UP DOORS. JENNY, IF YOU CAN GET IN QUEUE.

JENNY? SHE'S GOT HER HEAD SET ON. THANK YOU.

>> I DON'T SEE THE TIME UP THERE.

>> WELL, IT STARTED.

>> WELL, I DIDN'T GET TO HEAR THE WHOLE THING, BUT I SEE THE OPIOD, AND I ALSO SEE THAT THIS IS A PROGRAM REGARDING THE YOUTH AND VIOLENCE PREVENTION, IS THAT CORRECT? WELL, I THINK IT'S GREAT, BUT I DIDN'T GET TO HEAR THE WHOLE THING LIKE I SAID.

I HOPE THAT IF THIS HAS TO DO WITH ANY CHILDREN IN THE SCHOOLS OR ANY EDUCATION.

I THINK THAT KEVIN CRYE, YOU PROBABLY SHOULDN'T BE VOTING ON THIS ITEM BECAUSE AS WE ALL KNOW, YOU HAVE MULTIPLE CONTRACTS WITH THE SCHOOLS AND BENEFITING FROM THAT, WHICH IS A CONFLICT OF INTEREST.

THIS IS GOING TO BE INVOLVING CHILDREN IN EDUCATION.

YOU COULD SHAKE YOUR HEAD ALL YOU WANT, BUT WE KNOW THAT YOU'RE BREAKING THE LAW ALREADY.

SO BUT I THINK THAT THE YOUTH, IT'S ALWAYS GREAT TO REACH OUT AND DO WHATEVER WE CAN.

AS LONG AS WE DON'T HAVE KEVIN CRYE INVOLVED BECAUSE WE KNOW ALL HE SEES ON THE CHILDREN, HIS DOLLAR SIGNS BECAUSE THAT'S ALL HE'S ALWAYS AFTER HOW TO MAKE A BUCK, BECAUSE HE WAS SO POOR BEFORE HE RAN AND NOW LOOK AT HOW MUCH MONEY HE'S MAKING.

YEAH, HE MAKES WHAT YOU'RE MAKING HOW MUCH A MONTH, A MILLION OR TWO MILLION A MONTH FROM ALL THE SCHOOLS? COME ON, KEVIN. WHY DID YOU TELL THEM HOW MUCH MONEY YOU MAKE? WELL, EVERYBODY ELSE IS JUST.

>> MY INCOME IS NOT ON THE AGENDA.

>> YEAH, I KNOW, BUT IT IS WITH YOU. YOUR MONEY.

>> THANK YOU. YOU'RE LIAR.

>> HAVE A GOOD DAY.

>> NEXT UP, JENNY.

>> WELCOME.

>> I JUST WANTED TO THANK THE BOARD NOT ONLY FOR ALLOWING US TO SPEAK, BUT LISTENING.

I'VE HEARD MANY PEOPLE ASK ABOUT THE OPIOID FUNDS AND SO IT'S NICE, HERE THEY ARE.

THIS SOUNDS LIKE A GREAT PROGRAM.

THANKS FOR PUTTING IT TOGETHER AND I HOPE THAT YOU TAKE IT A STEP FURTHER AND USE SOME OF THE OPIOID FUNDS TO MAKE THE WHOLE FAMILY AND NOT JUST HELP THE CHILDREN BECAUSE IT'S HARD TO BE A CLEAN CHILD IN AN OPIOID ADDICTED FAMILY. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THAT WAS OUR LAW SPEAKER, CHAIR.

>> OKAY. I THINK WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS WE'RE GOING TO HOW MANY ITEMS DO WE HAVE FOR CLOSED SESSION?

[03:30:04]

>> SO THE VOTE THAT WAS TAKEN EARLIER WAS TO MOVE THE LEGISLATIVE UPDATE ITEM R1 TO AFTER R7.

>> OKAY. BUT THERE'S DON'T WE SOMETIMES SOMETIMES BREAK THE CLOSED SESSION AND COME BACK, CORRECT?

>> CORRECT AT NOON. YES. SO IF YOU WANT TO BREAK.

>> WELL WE'RE WELL PAST THAT.

SO LET'S BREAK THE CLOSED SESSION.

WHAT'S THAT? YEAH, I KNOW. WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT AND THEN CONSENT AS WELL.

>> IF YOU WANTED TO BREAK FOR CLOSED SESSION.

>> HOW ARE YOU GUYS FEELING I'M GOOD TO PLOW ON.

SUPERVISOR LONG AND HARMON.

JUST ARBITRARILY PICKING TUB.

YOU GOOD. WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND WE'RE GOING TO KEEP PLOWING ON.

[R1 Receive an update from the County Executive Officer on County issues and consider action on specific legislation related to Shasta County’s legislative platform and receive Supervisors’ reports on countywide issues.]

WE'LL START WITH CEO RICKERT.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON CHAIRMAN CRAM, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, DAVE COUNTY EXECUTIVE OFFICER REPORTING.

I HAVE A LOT OF NEWS COMING FROM THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA, STARTING WITH LAWMAKERS WITHIN THIS LAST WEEK COMING BACK FROM SUMMER BREAK, HAVE DECIDED TO ADVANCE A NEW CONGRESSIONAL MAP AT THE URGING OF GOVERNOR NEWSOM.

THE NEW PARTISAN MAP, NETS DEMOCRATS, FIVE MORE US HOUSE SEATS IN THE 2026 MID TERMS. CALIFORNIA DEMOCRATS WHO HOLD SUPERMAJORITIES IN BOTH CHAMBERS ARE PLANNING TO HOLD HEARINGS ON THE MAP AND VOTE TO PUT IT UP FOR APPROVAL ON A SPECIAL ELECTION IN NOVEMBER AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE I'LL PROBABLY WELL AWARE OF.

MOVING ON TO SENATE BILLS AND ASSEMBLY BILLS.

FIRST, I HAVE FOR DISCUSSION IS SENATE BILL 346 BY SENATOR DEROZO, SUGGEST PERMITTING CITIES AND COUNTIES TO ENACT AN ORDINANCE TO REQUIRE SHORT TERM RENTAL FACILITIES TO PROVIDE SPECIFIC INFORMATION ON SHORT TERM RENTALS, WHICH COULD ALLOW BROADER COLLECTION OF TRANS OCCUPANCY TAX FROM SHORT TERM RENTALS, WHICH THEY ARE CURRENTLY NOT CONTRIBUTING TO.

I WILL BRING THIS BACK FOR THE NEXT BOARD MEETING WITH A LETTER OF SUPPORT FOR BOARD CONSIDERATION.

MOVING ON TO ASSEMBLY BILL 411 FROM MEMBER PAPEN, WOULD ALLOW FOR THE ESTABLISHMENT AND PROVISION FOR RANCHERS TO DISPOSE OF LIVESTOCK CARCASSES BY ALLOWING THEM TO COMPOST THE REMAINS ON SITE.

CURRENTLY, COMPOSTING IS NOT ALLOWED.

AT THE NEXT BOARD MEETING, I WILL BRING FORWARD A LETTER OF SUPPORT FOR BOARD CONSIDERATION.

FINALLY, I HAVE ASSEMBLY BILL 793 BY ASSEMBLY MEMBER SCHULTZ PROPOSES REQUIRING NEW PROCESSES AND PROCEDURES, WHICH WILL REQUIRE ADDITIONAL BURDENS IN ORDER TO CLASSIFY A DOG AS VICIOUS OR DANGEROUS.

THE CHANGES PROPOSED IN THIS LEGISLATION CAN MAKE IT THE PROCESS FOR DECLARING A DOG AS DANGEROUS ONEROUS AND UNDERMINING THE ABILITY OF A HEARING OFFICER TO CONSISTENTLY APPLY REQUESTS AND COMPLICATE HEARINGS AND DELAY RESOLUTIONS PURELY DUE TO PROCEDURAL DELAYS.

AT THE NEXT BOARD MEETING, I WILL BRING FORWARD A LETTER OF OPPOSITION TO THIS FOR THE BOARD CONSIDERATION.

THIS CONCLUDES MY REPORT.

>> THANK YOU, CEO RICORS.

START TO MY RIGHT WITH SUPERVISOR PLUMMER

>> GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE.

SO A FEW UPDATES HERE.

ONE IS THAT AS IT RELATES TO THE OPIOID SETTLEMENT DOLLARS, OBVIOUSLY, WE'VE TALKED QUITE A BIT ABOUT THAT TODAY.

THE OTHER IF YOU LOOK AT THE ALLOWABLE USES, WHICH IS SCHEDULE E, THERE'S A PARTICULAR CALL OUT AROUND WHAT'S CALLED NEONATAL ABSTINENCE SYNDROME, WHICH IS WHEN A CHILD IS BORN WITH WITHDRAWAL SYMPTOMS BECAUSE THE MOTHER WAS USING SUBSTANCES DURING PREGNANCY.

AND THAT HAS BEEN A CONCERN OF MINE SINCE WHEN I WAS RUNNING, BECAUSE AT THE TIME, OUR RATE OF NEONATAL ABSENCE SYNDROME WAS SEVEN TIMES THE STATE AVERAGE.

I THINK IT'S NOW 6.6.

ON THOSE LINES, SO IT'S GONE DOWN A LITTLE BIT, BUT IT'S STILL VERY HIGH RELATIVE TO THE STATE AVERAGE.

I MET WITH OUR PUBLIC HEALTH TEAM AND WE'RE PUTTING TOGETHER A PLAN FOR HOW WE COULD, WITH SOME INVESTMENT OF THOSE OPIOID SETTLEMENT DOLLARS, MAKE A DENT IN THAT RELATED ON THE PUBLIC HEALTH SIDE.

THERE I'VE HAD A NUMBER OF CONVERSATIONS BOTH WITH THE PUBLIC HEALTH TEAM AND DR.

MOU AROUND HARM REDUCTION AND IN PARTICULAR, THE NARCAN VENDING MACHINES.

AND WHAT WE HEARD FROM THE SHASTA SUBSTANCE USE COALITION BACK IN MAY BEFORE THIS BOARD WAS A SIGNIFICANT REDUCTION IN OPIOID OVERDOSE DEATHS FROM 2023, '22 TO 2024.

AND PART OF THAT THEY'RE ATTRIBUTING TO THE THE GREATER ACCESSIBILITY OF NARCAN IN THE COMMUNITY.

I KNOW THEY'RE WORKING WITH SCHOOLS AS WELL TO MAKE SURE THAT'S ACCESSIBLE.

I HAD TALKED WITH A MOTHER WHO LOST THEIR SON, WHO THOUGHT HE WAS TAKING PERCOCET AND TURNED OUT TO HAVE FONTANEL IN IT AND OVERDOSED.

[03:35:05]

I'D ACTUALLY LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO BRING THAT BACK FOR BOARD CONSIDERATION OF SUPPORTING THAT PROPOSAL FROM PUBLIC HEALTH ON THE SEPTEMBER 9TH MEETING FOR BOARD CONSIDERATION AND VOTING TO USE OPIOD SETTLEMENT, NOT DOLLARS FOR THAT.

>> WOULD YOU BE OPEN TO AMEND THAT MOTION NOT TO BE SO HARD AND FAST ON THE DATE?

>> WITHIN SEPTEMBER?

>> WITHIN SEPTEMBER?

>> BECAUSE THEY'VE HAD THE PROPOSAL FOR A WHILE AND I JUST WANTED TO GET IT GOING.

>> I'LL SECOND THAT.

>> AND THEN SHOULD WE TAKE A VOTE OR SHOULD I FINISH ONE OTHER ITEM.

THE LAST THING AND THIS IS WHAT I WOULD CALL, I'LL SAY A BIG IDEA.

IT'S VERY EARLY SEED STAGE.

BUT IN THE FALL LAST YEAR, I WENT TO A FAMILY MEMBERS WEDDING IN COLORADO AND I NOTICED THAT AS YOU'RE DRIVING FROM BRECKENRIDGE BACK TO DENVER, YOU'RE ON THIS HIGHWAY, BUT THERE'S A TRAIL OFF THAT CONNECTS ALL THESE MOUNTAIN TOWNS AND THERE'S PEOPLE MOVING BETWEEN IT BIKES AND OTHER, ELECTRICAL BIKES.

AND I THOUGHT THAT WOULD BE INTERESTING IF WE COULD CONNECT MOUNT SHASTA TO THE SHASTA DAM, WHERE YOU ALREADY HAVE 16 MILES OF THE RIVER TRAIL AND POTENTIALLY MORE.

JUST STARTED FLOATING THE IDEA, TALKING WITH FOLKS UP IN LAKEHEAD.

THEY'RE INTERESTED IN MORE RECREATIONAL ACTIVITY.

AND JUST CEDED THE IDEA WITH THE US FEST SERVICE BECAUSE A LOT OF THAT WOULD GO OVER THEIR LAND AND BLM.

AND THIS WOULD BE A REALLY LONG PROJECT.

BUT ONE OF THE OTHER CONSIDERATIONS THAT I ALSO JUST WANTED AS IT RELATES TO THIS IS, LIKE, HOW WOULD YOU CROSS THE LAKE OR GET AROUND THE LAKE? AND THERE IS WORK BEING DONE RIGHT NOW TO BASICALLY FIGURE OUT WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO WITH THE PITT RIVER BRIDGE.

SO, THE BUREAU OF RECLAMATION CURRENTLY OWNS IT, BUT WANTS TO NOT OWN IT.

AND CALTRANS DOES THE MAINTENANCE ON IT.

AND THEY'RE TRYING TO EITHER REHAB THAT BRIDGE OR POTENTIALLY MOVE IT TO THE RIGHT, ESSENTIALLY TO THE EAST.

AND SO WHEN THAT HAPPENS, WHICH THEIR GOAL IS TO START CONSTRUCTION ON THAT BY 2040, THEN THERE COULD BE POTENTIAL TO WORK ON THIS.

BUT SO THAT'S COMING DOWN THE PIKE AND.

I JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU ALL HEADS UP ON THAT.

I WAS AT THE SUPERIOR CALIFORNIA ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT AND MENTIONED THIS AND THE MAYOR OF DUNSMERE WAS THERE, OBVIOUSLY DUNSMERE IS NOT SHASTA COUNTY, BUT BORDERS IT.

AND THEY'RE WORKING ON THEIR TRAIL SYSTEM OF CONNECTING DOWN TO HEDGE CREEK FALLS, IF YOU KNOW WHERE THAT IS.

THERE'S POTENTIAL SYNERGIES THERE.

THE LAST THING I'LL SAY ON THAT IS THAT IN TALKING WITH THE READING TRAILONS, THEY MENTIONED, THAT COULD BE A BIG PICTURE PLAN, BUT IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO TAKE YEARS TO GET GOING WITH THAT.

AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT THE COUNTY WOULD NECESSARILY BE DIRECTLY INVOLVED OR PUTTING ANY FUNDS INTO IT.

BUT WE ARE LOOKING AT A CONCEPT MAP THAT THE READING TRAIL LINES HAD ALREADY PUT TOGETHER FOR A MOUNTAIN BIKING TRAIL SYSTEM IN THE SUGARLOAF AREA? THEY PRESENTED THAT AT MY LAST LAKEHEAD COMMUNITY MEETING AND SO THEY'RE LOOKING TO GET A PLANNING GRANT TO START THAT.

WE'RE WORKING ON TRYING TO ADVANCE SOME OF THE OUTDOOR RECREATION OPPORTUNITIES IN SHASTA LAKE AREA AND NORTH.

>> THANK YOU. SUPERVISOR ARMY.

>> IS THE WATER BALLOON FIGHT THIS SATURDAY OR WAS IT LAST SATURDAY? DID YOU GET IN ON THAT?

>> NO. I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT WAS.

>> CHESS LAKE CITY.

>> I WASN'T PART OF THAT.

>> ANYWAYS, THANKS FOR EVERYBODY HANGING IN HERE.

I'LL MAKE MINE SHORT. I ALWAYS DO.

I JUST WANT TO SAY A LITTLE MORE WHY I HAVE THE CHANCE ABOUT THE VET HAUL.

I THINK WE CAN LOOK AT FINDING OUT WHERE WE HAVE SOME PROPERTY THAT WE ALREADY OWN.

MAYBE IT'S LIKE IN THE MAINTENANCE YARD OR SOMEWHERE WHERE WE CAN PUT UP A STEEL BUILDING, SOMETHING PERMANENT, MOVE ALL THAT EQUIPMENT INTO STORIES THAT WE DON'T NEED TEN MONTHS, WELL, IT'D BE EVERY OTHER YEAR AT TIMES, BUT $16,000 WE'RE PAYING FOR THAT PLACE DOWN THERE.

THERE'S NOBODY DOWN THERE. IF YOU WANT TO GO DOWN THERE, THERE'S NO PEOPLE IN THERE.

THEY'RE ALL OVER HERE AT THIS OFFICE.

WE STAY IN THIS OFFICE AND THEN WE MAKE A DEAL WITH THE VETS HALL.

WE OWN THAT BUILDING. WE'RE ALREADY DOING MAINTENANCE ON IT.

WE CAN EVEN HELP THE VETS HALL WITH ANY NEEDS AND IT'S JUST A PRACTICAL THOUGHT.

I HATE TO BE TOO PRACTICAL AND BE IN THIS JOB.

[03:40:01]

WENT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING ON THE 14TH THURSDAY, WENT TO AN OPEN HOUSE FOR JULIE MARTIN, A BUSINESS HERE IN TOWN, ACCOUNTING FIRM.

AND THEN I'M GOING TO BRING IT UP EVERY WEEK. WOLVES.

>> YOU CAN EVEN ADD TO THAT.

IT'S ABOUT OUR FOOD SUPPLY.

BUT WOLVES, BEES, AND WATER, WE HAVE A 60% LOSS IN BEE HIVES.

POLLINATION IS NOW AN ISSUE NATIONWIDE.

WATER RIGHTS, WE KNOW THEY'RE ATTACKING OUR WATER AND WANTING TO TAKE OUT MORE DAMS. IT'S OUR FOOD SUPPLY.

WE NEED TO SUPPORT THAT.

I WOULD ENCOURAGE ANY OF YOU AND SPREAD THIS AROUND, TAKE A LITTLE TIME, AND SIT DOWN AND GET ON YOUTUBE AND GOOGLE WOLVES.

YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TIME IN A WEEK TO SEE HOW MANY VIDEOS ARE ON THERE, AND IT'LL OPEN YOUR EYES UP TO THE PROBLEMS THAT WE'RE HAVING RIGHT NOW AND WE GOT MORE COMMENT.

IT'S GOING TO GET WORSE AND THAT CONCLUDES.

>> THANK YOU. SUPERVISOR KELSTROM.

>> I'LL MAKE IT QUICK HERE. I WENT TO THE AMAZON GROUND BREAKING OVER STILLWATER PARK AREA, AND KUDOS TO REDDING CITY COUNCIL, AS WELL AS THE EDC.

BARRY TIPTON AND EVERYBODY THAT WORKED ON THAT.

REBECCA BARR WAS THERE, AS WAS TODD JONES, WHO STARTED THE THING WAY BACK WHEN.

THAT'S EXCITING COMING HERE.

I TALKED TO BARRY THERE AND THAT WAS LAST WEEK, AND HE DID TELL ME THAT THE ONE THING THAT THEY HAD TO WAIT FOR WAS TO GET THAT LAND DEEMED SURPLUS.

HE WAS WORKING ON IT BACK THEN, SO EVERYTHING GOVERNMENT TAKES A WHILE.

THEN I WENT TO THE GOOD NEWS RESCUE MISSION GRADUATION.

I SAW SUPERVISOR PLUMMER THERE.

THAT WAS FRIDAY NIGHT. THAT WAS GREAT.

THEN LAST WEEK, I ALLUDED TO THIS, BUT I DIDN'T WANT TO TAKE AWAY FROM AMY HANCOCK FROM THE VSO'S OFFICE.

SHE GOT THEM VERY DESERVED EMPLOYEE OF THE MONTH.

BUT THAT SAME DAY, I RECEIVED A LETTER FROM A CONSTITUENT UP IN SHINGLE TOWN.

HE HAD GONE DOWN TO THE VSO'S OFFICE.

HE WAS VERY IMPRESSED AND HE WANTED TO EXPRESS A SINCERE APPRECIATION TO BRIAN DEDRICK WHO WORKS IN THE VSO'S OFFICE.

THIS GENTLEMAN, BRIAN WAS ABLE TO HELP HIM GET SOME SERVICES OR SOME BENEFITS FOR HIS DISABLED WIFE AT THE TIME.

THEN AFTER SHE HAD PASSED AWAY, HE WORKED WITH THIS CONSTITUENT AND GOT HIS RATE INCREASED FROM 30%-40%.

THEN AT THE END, HIS DISABILITY RATE WENT CLEAR TO 70% WITHIN EVALUATION.

BRIAN DEDRICK PROVIDED ME WITH EXCELLENT CUSTOMER SERVICE AND WORKING IN THE PERSONNEL FIELD FOR 15 YEARS OF MY AIR FORCE CAREER.

I SEE THE FOLLOWING TRAITS IN BRIAN, AND HE WANTED TO GIVE HIS SINCERE APPRECIATION TO HIM.

I'D LIKE TO PASS THAT ON, AND THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT.

>> THANK YOU, SUPERVISOR KELSTROM. SUPERVISOR LONG.

>> THANK YOU, CHAIR. I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY AFTER BEING INVITED TO A FIRE SAFE COUNCIL MEETING.

IT WAS A SUBCOMMITTEE WITH GRANTS AND PROJECTS AND GOT TO PARTICIPATE IN SETTING THERE, WHICH WE HAVEN'T COMPLETELY FINALIZED.

I'LL SHARE DETAILS WITH YOU GOING FORWARD, BUT WE TALKED ABOUT GOALS AND OBJECTIVES FOR SUBCOMMITTEE GRANTS AND PROJECTS, IMPLEMENTATION, PROJECT DEVELOPMENT, GRANT APPLICATIONS.

ANOTHER THING THAT WAS SHARED WITH ME AT THE MEETING, AND I SHARE THIS TO LET OUR PUBLIC KNOW UP IN THE SHINGLE TOWN AREA.

THERE IS A CAL FIRE FUNDED PROJECT, WHICH IS PART OF THE CALIFORNIA CLIMATE INVESTMENTS PROGRAM.

BASICALLY, IT'S A DEFENSIBLE SPACE/PROGRAM.

IT'S FREE TO RESIDENTS UP IN THE SHINGLETOWN AREA.

IT'S AN AWESOME THING WHERE THEY ACCEPT BRUSH, TREE LIMBS, YARD RAKINGS, ETC.

I'VE GOT A COPY OF THAT SCHEDULE.

IF YOU NEED THAT, YOU CAN JUST GOOGLE IT, I'M SURE, BUT IT'S A REALLY COOL PROGRAM THAT'S FUNDED BY THE STATE, AND SO IT'S AVAILABLE TO FRIDA, EVERYBODY UP IN THAT AREA TO BRING ALL YOUR BRUSH AND YOUR UNDERGROWTH AND YOUR FUELS, MITIGATION PROJECTS YOU'VE BEEN WORKING ON AND GET THOSE THERE.

BASICALLY, THEY'VE GOT A SCHEDULE POSTED ON THEIR WEBSITE.

I HAD DISCUSSION WITH THE PERSON THAT RUNS THAT PROGRAM, AND IT'S PRETTY EXCITING ACTUALLY.

>> WHICH IS THAT WEBSITE AGAIN?

>> WELL, I WOULD GO TO THE FIRE SAFE COUNCIL, AND THEY WOULD TALK ABOUT THIS, OR YOU CAN GO TO CAL FIRE AND JUST PUT IN THE CALIFORNIA CLIMATE INVESTMENTS PROGRAM.

I'VE GOT THE SCHEDULE HERE, IF ANYBODY WANTS TO SEE IT, I'LL BE HAPPY TO PROVIDE THAT, AND THEY'VE GOT IT OUTLINED.

IT GOES MAY THROUGH OCTOBER, ESSENTIALLY, WHEN WE GO INTO THE RAINY SEASON, USED TO BE RAINY SEASON.

ANYWAY, THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT. THANK YOU.

[03:45:02]

>> I'M GOING TO MAKE THIS PRETTY BRIEF, HEAD RCRC LAST WEEK, AND I'M GOING TO ACTUALLY BRING SOME INFORMATION BACK TO MY BOARD REPORT NEXT WEEK.

I WANT TO BE ABLE TO CONNECT SOME DOTS WITH FOLLOW UP FROM WHAT OUR MEETING WAS AND THEN SOME THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENED LEGISLATIVELY THIS WEEK.

I AM PERSONALLY SENDING ON DISTRICT ONE LETTERHEAD A LETTER TO GOVERNOR NEWSOM'S OFFICE AS WELL AS THE LEGISLATURE ABOUT THIS REDISTRICTING ITEM.

I'M GOING TO BRING A LETTER BACK THAT THE BOARD CAN THEN SEND IF THEY VOTE AND CHOOSE TO DO THAT ABOUT WEIGHING IN, ABOUT AN OPINION ABOUT THE REDISTRICTING.

I DID HAVE A QUESTION FOR SUPERVISORS LONG OR PLUMMER ABOUT AN UPDATE.

I'D LIKE TO GET AN UPDATE ON THE STRATEGIC PLAN.

I KNOW WE'VE IDENTIFIED THE CONSULTANT.

>> WE'VE GOT A MEETING.

WHEN IS THAT MATT, THE DAY?

>> TWENTY FIRST.

>> TWENTY FIRST.

>> OF WHAT?

>> AUGUST, THIS WEEK.

>> COUPLE OF DAY. GREAT.

>> WE'VE GOT A MEETING THIS IN A COUPLE OF DAYS.

>> I BELIEVE I HAD REACHED OUT TO DEPUTY CEO BERTAIN, AND SHE SAID THAT THERE'S WORKING ON THE CONTRACT.

>> WORK IT ON. I'M GOING TO PUT ON THE AGENDA AND UPDATE BECAUSE I JUST WANT TO GET AN UPDATE OF THE STRATEGIC PLAN.

THAT'S GOING TO BE ON THE NEXT BOARD FOR YOU GUYS TO DISCUSS BECAUSE I CAN'T DISCUSS WITH YOU BECAUSE YOU'RE WORKING WITH SUPERVISOR LONG AND VICE VERSA.

THAT'LL BE ON THIS NEXT AGENDA. SUPERVISOR LONG.

>> LITTLE KNOWN FACT ABOUT BROWN ACT FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, WE CAN DISCUSS FACTS WITH YOU, BUT WE CAN'T DISCUSS OPINIONS AND HOW WE WERE LIKELY TO VOTE.

YOU'RE FREE TO TALK TO US IF YOU WANT FACTS ONLY.

THAT'S DOWN IN THE WEEDS, IT'S THE MINUTIA OF BROWN ACT, BUT THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT WE'RE FREE TO DISCUSS FACT ONLY.

MAYBE COUNSEL CAN WEIGH IN ON THAT.

>> I THINK THIS IS MY BOARD REPORT.

I KNOW NOLDA SHORT INVOLVED, AND I'M REALLY TRYING TO, WHEN WE VOTED AS A BOARD TO LET YOU GUYS LEAD THAT, I JUST WAS THINKING WE WOULD. IT'S ALL GOOD.

I JUST WANT TO HAVE DIALOGUE ABOUT WHERE WE ARE.

I HAD ONE OTHER THING, CEO RICKERT, WHICH I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU, BUT I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE ON THE CONSENT. I'M GOING TO WAIT.

THAT'S MY BOARD REPORT. MS. [INAUDIBLE], LET'S TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT.

I KNOW WE'RE OVER 10 SPEAKERS, SO IT'S TWO MINUTES, AND THEN WE'LL GO ON [INAUDIBLE]. I'M AT A MOTION.

>> THANK YOU.

>> I HAD A SECOND. SORRY.

>> I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY IN THAT.

I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT PHRASE MEANT, BUT THAT WOULD BE FOR THE BOARD TO TAKE ACTION ON IT.

>> THAT WAS MY NOTE, SO THANK YOU, SUPERVISOR KELSTROM.

MY QUESTION AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE STRATEGIC PLAN, I WAS HOPING THE STRATEGIC PLAN, AND THAT'S PART OF THE REASON WITH THE OPIOID DOLLARS, I HAVEN'T PERSONALLY PUSHED MORE STUFF IS I WANT TO SEE WHAT OUR STRATEGIC PLAN IS AS WE LOOK AT THOSE OPIOID DOLLARS.

THAT'S GREAT TO HEAR THERE'S A MEETING ON THE 21ST.

CAN YOU BE SUPERVISOR HARMON A LITTLE BIT MORE? I'M NOT SAYING I WOULD WANT TO SLOW BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO SLOW WALK THIS, BUT IF WE VOTE IN THE MOTION AND IT'S BY SEPTEMBER, THEN WE'RE BOXED INTO THAT.

EVEN IF YOU WANT TO PUSH IT, WE THEN CAN'T PUSH IT BECAUSE WE VOTED AS A BOARD TO BRING IT BACK IN SEPTEMBER.

CAN YOU MAKE THE MOTION? WOULD YOU ALTER YOUR MOTION TO MAKE IT WHERE WE BRING IT BACK? I WANT TO BRING IT BACK. I'M SAYING THAT.

I DON'T WANT TO BRING IT BACK WITHOUT A LOT OF UNANSWERED QUESTIONS.

WHAT I KNOW ABOUT THIS BOARD, IF THEY DON'T HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS ANSWERED, THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE A LOT OF ACTION.

I DON'T WANT TO WASTE ANYBODY'S TIME.

>> I'M NOT SURE IN TERMS OF THE STRATEGIC PLAN, THAT WE'LL HAVE REALLY ROBUST INPUT FROM THAT PROCESS BEFORE.

>> BY THEN?

>> END OF FALL WOULD BE MY GUESS BECAUSE IT'S A THREE MONTH CONTRACT WITH WITH THE CONSULTANT.

THAT WILL JUST BE STARTING PROBABLY THIS WEEK OR NEXT.

>> THAT'S THE PUBLIC'S INPUT.

YOU AND SUPERVISOR LONG, AS WELL AS MS. BERTAIN, WHO'S GOING TO POINT, BUT SHE'S NOT THERE.

MS. BERTAIN, MS. SHORT, CEO RICKERT ARE ON THAT.

THE PUBLIC INPUT IS IMPORTANT, AND WE SOUGHT THAT AS A BOARD, BUT THAT IS ONE SLICE OF THAT PIE.

>> MR. CHAIRMAN. WE'RE DRIFTING INTO AN AGENDA.

>> I'M GOING TO BRING IT BACK. IF YOU WANT TO KEEP IT TO SEPTEMBER, I JUST WANT IT TO BE SUCCESSFUL AND A GOOD USE OF TIME.

WOULD YOU MODIFY IT TO BE OPEN ON THAT?

>> HOW ABOUT I'LL EXTEND IT ANOTHER MONTH THROUGH OCTOBER?

>> I THINK WE CAN DO IT BY THEN. THAT'S GREAT.

I'LL SECOND THAT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?

>> AYE.

>> FIVE. THANK YOU, THROUGH OCTOBER.

PUBLIC COMMENT. LET'S KEEP IT ROCKING, STEPHANIE.

[PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD - OPEN TIME]

>> JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, THIS IS PUBLIC COMMENT OPEN TIME, CORRECT? NO PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> [OVERLAPPING] CORRECT. THERE IS GOING TO BE THE CONSENT, THERE GOING TO DO PUBLIC COMMENT.

[03:50:02]

>> FOR OPEN TIME, WE DO HAVE TEN SPEAKERS, SO THEY WILL BE LIMITED TO TWO MINUTES EACH.

FIRST UP, MARGARET HANSEN, FOLLOWED BY STEVE CORN, BRAD GARBETT, ROBERT, AND DON DUCKETT.

>> THANK YOU.

>> IS MARGARET HANSEN HERE? >> NO.

>> NOT SEEING HER.

>> EXACTLY.

>> STEVE, COME ON UP.

>> WELCOME, SIR. I HOPE YOU MAKE IT TONIGHT, TUESDAY NIGHT.

>> I JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS.

FIRST OF ALL, CLINT CURTIS REPEATEDLY STATED AS HIM BEING ELECTED OFFICIAL.

HE'S APPOINTED OFFICIAL TO AN ELECTED POSITION, AND I THINK THAT'S A BIG DIFFERENCE.

HE ALSO STATED, A MEETING OR SO AGO THAT HE HAD 400 VOLUNTEERS WILLING TO WORK IN THE ELECTIONS OFFICE.

WELL, THE VOLUNTEERS THAT STEPPED FORWARD ORIGINALLY WERE ELECTION DENIERS, AND I DON'T WANT THEM ANYWHERE NEAR MY BALLOT.

I AM EXTREMELY CONCERNED ABOUT HIM USING VOLUNTEERS, ESPECIALLY FROM THE POOL THAT WAS ORIGINALLY PRESENT AND STATING THAT THEY WOULD BE VOLUNTEERS HERE.

THEY CONCERNED ME GREATLY, BECAUSE THEY HAVE GREAT ISSUES WITH THE SYSTEM AS IT EXISTS, AND I CAN'T SEE WHERE THEY MIGHT EVEN UNDERMINE THE SITUATION.

THE OTHER COMMENT I WANTED TO MAKE WAS ON THE PARKING AROUND THIS AREA.

PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE HOW MUCH STRESS THERE REALLY IS ON THE PARKING IN THIS AREA.

I HAVE AN OFFICE A BLOCK AWAY FROM HERE, AND PEOPLE FROM HERE, FROM THE COURTHOUSE, FROM ALL OF THESE COUNTY ENTITIES.

I SUPPOSE IT'S BECAUSE OF CHARGING. I DON'T KNOW.

THERE'S AVAILABILITY OVER THERE, BUT THOSE ARE CHARGED PARKING PLACES.

MAYBE EVEN THE ALLOTTED ONES FOR THE EMPLOYEES COST A MONTHLY FEE. I DON'T KNOW.

BUT I DO KNOW THEY TAKE UP A LOT OF THE BUSINESSES PARKING AND THAT ADDITIONAL PARKING HERE WOULD HELP TREMENDOUSLY.

IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT YOU MAY LOOK AROUND AND IT MAY NOT APPEAR SO, BUT THEY HAVE A GREAT IMPACT, AND EVEN FROM THE COUNTY OFFICES DOWNTOWN THAT STRETCH THEIR PARKING OUT INTO ALL THE PRIVATE AREAS, IT MAY EVEN ALLEVIATE SOME OF THAT.

THE PARKING IS NEEDED. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

>> BRAD GARBETT, FOLLOWED BY ROBERT, THEN DON DUCKETT, THEN DOLORES LUCERO.

>> LET'S BRING BACK THE IMPACT FEES.

YOUR EXPERIMENT TO INCREASE BUILDING IN THE COUNTY FAILED.

BUILDING ACTIVITY WENT DOWN AFTER YOU ELIMINATED THE IMPACT FEES.

WE NEED TO KEEP PUTTING MONEY INTO THIS ACCOUNT TO DEVELOP THE ALTERNATIVE CUSTODY CENTER, AND YOU'RE DENYING THE COUNTY BUDGET, THIS MONEY.

BRING BACK THOSE FEES.

THE RANCHERIA DEAL.

WOW. HERE YOU ARE SPENDING MORE MONEY TO SEE IF YOU SHOULD FIGHT IT.

JUST GO BACK AND RENEGOTIATE IT, AND BE SURE YOU GET THE SIGN OFF FROM THE SHERIFF, THE FIRE CHIEF, COUNTY COUNCIL, DA, RISK MANAGEMENT, EVERYBODY BEFORE YOU VOTE ON IT.

NO MORE BACKROOM DEALS.

WHO KNOWS WHAT BAGS OF MONEY YOU GOT TO DO THAT? BUT LET'S MAKE SURE THAT IT DOESN'T COST THE COUNTY ANYTHING TO SERVICE THE CASINO.

I DON'T EXPECT THE COUNTY TO MAKE A PROFIT OFF THE CASINO, BUT I DO THINK IT NEEDS TO BE A BREAK EVEN PROPOSITION WHERE WE, TAXPAYERS ARE NOT SUBSIDIZING THE CASINO.

THEY DON'T PAY ANY TAXES.

I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR REDUCING THE TRAFFIC IN SHASTA COUNTY.

AS YOU KNOW, WE'VE LOST THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE IN THE COUNTY SINCE YOU'VE COME INTO OFFICE.

I'VE NOTICED THAT THERE'S NOT AS MUCH TRAFFIC OUT ON THE ROADS, AND SO THAT'S ALL GOOD.

I JUST HOPE YOU DON'T HAVE ANY CONSTITUENTS THAT RUN BUSINESSES THAT NEED PA PATRONS BECAUSE YOU'VE RUN THEM OFF.

HOPEFULLY THAT'LL BE BROUGHT UP WHEN YOU TRY TO RUN FOR REELECTION.

YOU BETTER ASK ANSELMO FOR A LOT MORE MONEY THIS TIME AROUND.

INSTEAD OF HUNDREDS AND THOUSANDS, YOU BETTER ASK THEM FOR MILLIONS.

>> THANK YOU.

>> ROBERT, FOLLOWED BY DON DUCKETT, DOLORES LUCERO, AND BENJAMIN NOWAIN.

NOT SEEING ROBERTS. COME ON UP, DON.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON. I'VE GOT A MIXED BAG.

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SUPERVISORS SEEMS TO HAVE DECLINED WITH YOUR DISCOURSE AMONG ONE ANOTHER.

I JUST WANT TO REMIND YOU THAT IF YOU MODEL GOOD BEHAVIOR AND POSITIVE DISCOURSE, THE TWO OPPOSING GROUPS IN THIS ROOM WILL PROBABLY DO THE SAME.

YOU LEADERS, YOU ARE SETTING THE TONE.

IT RILES UP THE CROWD WHEN YOU START, I DON'T KNOW, FIGHTING UP THERE.

YOU ARE PAID TO HAVE OPINIONS, BUT YOU'RE NOT PAID TO MAKE EACH OTHER FEEL FOOLISH FOR HAVING A DIFFERING OPINION.

ALSO, DOLORES IS CORRECT ABOUT THE DONATION OF CAMERAS.

THAT DOES NEED TO BE RATIFIED BY THE BOARD.

I BELIEVE THE THRESHOLD IS $2,500 LAST TIME I LOOKED AT THE POLICY.

I WILL NOT BE HERE FOR THE NEXT COUPLE OF MEETINGS, I'LL BE TRAVELING THROUGH EUROPE.

I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I APPRECIATE BRINGING BACK USE OF THE OPIOID FUNDS TO DO SIGNING BONUSES FOR PSYCHIATRISTS.

I THINK A RETENTION BONUS ALSO WOULD BE APPROPRIATE USE OF THOSE FUNDS TO KEEP PEOPLE HERE BECAUSE IT'S NOT JUST ATTRACTING THEM, IT'S RETAINING THEM.

MAYBE LOOK AT THE USE OF OPIOID FUNDS TO START A PROGRAM TO PROVIDE INCENTIVES FOR NEW PROVIDERS IN THE COMMUNITY.

MAYBE GIVE THEM A LITTLE BUMP WHEN THEY OPEN UP A PRACTICE, AND THEN AFTER THREE YEARS, GIVE THEM A RETENTION BUMP.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU.

>> DOLORES LUCERO, FOLLOWED BY BENJAMIN OWN, LAURA HOBBS, NICK GARDNER, THEN LAURI RICHFORD.

WELL, HERE WE ARE. WHAT TIME IS IT? ALMOST 01:00. HERE'S A LIST OF WHAT YOU ALLOW THE MEDIA.

WHAT'S HER NAME LAURIE FREEBRIDG, WHO YOU ALLOW FOR MONTHS TO ACTUALLY USE THE GOVERNMENT BUILDING TO PROMOTE HATE AGAINST JENNY AND BEN, ATTACKING THEM BECAUSE SHE HAS AN ADA.

THEN BASICALLY SAYING, HARAS HARASSING MEDIA.

TRY SOME GLASSES BECAUSE SHE HAD SOME MEDICAL CONDITION THAT THE LIGHT SHE SENSED IT TO THE LIGHT.

YET, YOU ALLOWED THIS IN YOUR GOVERNMENT BUILDING TO BE FOR THE MEDIA TO BE ATTACKING CITIZENS? THIS IS YOUR GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT YOU ALLOW.

JUST LIKE YOU DO WITH THE CHRISS STREET AND THIS DEMOCRAT GUY HERE WHO ACTUALLY DOESN'T KNOW ANYTHING, WHO ACTUALLY KNOWS HOW TO CHEAT AND FLIP THE VOTES.

NOW, HE HIRES SOMEBODY ELSE WHO'S ANOTHER DEMOCRAT.

HOW DOES OUR COUNTY LOOK LIKE? YOU WANT TO CLAIM THAT YOU'RE A REPUBLICAN AND THAT'S RIGHT.

YOU ALSO CLAIM TO BE A GODLY MAN.

I DON'T BELIEVE THAT YOU ARE.

YOU KNOW, PLUMMER, I THINK YOU GOT TO BE CAUTIOUS ABOUT YOUR SURROUNDINGS.

IF YOU BELIEVE IN GOD, I KNOW YOU GO TO CHURCH IN BETHEL, I THINK YOU NEED TO BE CAREFUL BECAUSE YOU CANNOT SURROUND YOURSELF WITH EVIL AND WICKED PEOPLE, BECAUSE YOU GOT TO WATCH YOURSELF, BECAUSE HE'S TRYING TO WORK YOU.

HE'S TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT HE HAS THAT THIRD VOTE.

YOU SAW HOW HE ATTACKED MR. LONG TO TRY TO REMOVE HIM FROM HIS POSITIONS IN THE COMMITTEES.

ANOTHER THING HERE, GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT.

ON GOVERNMENT CODE 549, 54, 3A ACTUALLY SAYS HERE.

FOR ITEM NOT ON THE AGENDA.

YOU CAN RAISE NEW ISSUES.

A COMMENT UNDER AGENDA ITEM AND INCLUDING CONSENT ITEMS. THE LAW REC.

>> IT. THANK YOU. HAVE A GOOD DAY.

THAT'S YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT.

>> NEXT UP, BENJAMIN NONE.

FOLLOWED BY LAURA HOBBS, THEN NICK GARDNER, FOLLOWED BY LORI BRIDGEFORD.

IF I CALLED YOUR NAME, PLEASE GET AND QUEUE.

>> THIS IS YOUR WARNING. THIS IS YOUR FIRST WARNING.

>> OF THE DAY FOR ME. YOU WARNING DOESN'T SCARE ME.

>> SECOND WARNING.

>> THERE [INAUDIBLE]. NOW.

>> OH, GOD. LET'S STOP.

>> I'M.

>> HEY, PLEASE STOP.

>> FIRST WARNING.

>> SORRY. I FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, I WANTED TO SPEAK TODAY ABOUT PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP'S RECENT STATEMENT ABOUT PROMISING A EXECUTIVE ACTION TO ELIMINATE MAIL IN BALLOTS.

THIS CONCERNED ME. TO ME, IT'S AN UNPRECEDENTED ATTEMPT TO INTERFERE IN STATE WITH STATE ELECTION LAWS, WHICH THE CONSTITUTION LEAVES TO THE STATES.

IN CALIFORNIA, THE NUMBER IS PRETTY HIGH.

IT'S NEARLY 80 TO 87% OF VOTERS RELIED ON MAIL IN BALLOTS IN THE LAST PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION.

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IT'S THE MAIN WAY THAT OUR CITIZENS ARE PARTICIPATING.

I GUESS MY QUESTION IS SIMPLE.

IT'S SOMEWHAT RHETORICAL BECAUSE I KNOW I PROBABLY WON'T GET AN ANSWER, BUT IF THERE IS AN EXECUTIVE ORDER THAT ATTEMPTS TO BAN OR LIMIT MAIL IN BALLOTS, WILL OUR REGISTRAR OF VOTERS CLINT CURTIS UPHOLD CALIFORNIA LAW AND THE RIGHTS OF SHASTA CITIZENS? OR WILL HE FOLLOW THE DIRECTIVE OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES? FOR SENIORS, PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES, WORKING FAMILIES, AND THOSE IN RURAL AREAS, MAIL AND BALLOTS ARE ESSENTIAL.

TAKING THEM AWAY WOULD DISENFRANCHISE THOUSANDS OF VOTERS IN OUR COUNTY.

WE NEED CLARITY.

ARE WE GOING TO PROTECT THE RIGHTS THAT GUARNTEE THAT ARE GUARANTEED BY CALIFORNIA LAW, OR WILL FEDERAL POLITICS OVERRIDE LOCAL DEMOCRACY?

>> CEO RICKERT [APPLAUSE].

CEO RICKERT, WILL YOU PLEASE WRITE DOWN, HELP ME FIND OUT THE DEFINITION BETWEEN AN ABSENTEE BALLOT AND A MAIL IN BALLOT.

I'VE HEARD OF THOSE. IF YOU COULD LOOK UP THAT FOR ME, NOT NOW, BUT LATER.

>> I'LL SEE IF I CAN TALK TO THE ROV ABOUT THAT.

>> I APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU.

>> NEXT STOP, LAURA HOBBS, IS LAURA HERE?

>> I DON'T THINK SHE IS. THAT'S WHY I CAME UP.

YOU KNOW, CLINT CURTIS JUST DEMONSTRATED THAT HE'S THE SMARTEST MAN IN THE CHAMBERS.

WHEN DORIS GOT STARTED, HE TOOK OFF HEARING AIDS.

[BACKGROUND].

ACCORDING TO DON DUCKETT, MORE MONEY IS GOING TO SOLVE EVERYTHING.

YOU KNOW, THE CITY OF READING HAD TROUBLE FINDING A PSYCHIATRIST OR PSYCHOLOGIST TO GO OUT WITH THEIR THREE MAN CREWS, TWO POLICE OFFICERS FOR THE MENTALLY ILL.

AND THE REASON THEY DON'T HAVE TWO IS THEY COULDN'T FIND A SECOND ONE TO GO OUT WITH THEM.

THERE'S A SHORTAGE OF THEM AND MORE MONEY ISN'T GOING TO DO IT.

I'M GLAD YOU'RE GOING TO DISCUSS THE REAPPORTIONMENT.

DEFINITELY, WE DON'T WANT TO BE WITH THAT.

I WAS HOPING IT WAS GOING TO BE ADDRESSED.

WHEN IT COMES TO THE MEDICAL COLLEGE, WHAT I HAVEN'T HEARD DISCUSSED IS ALL THE SATELLITE BUSINESSES THAT WILL FLOOD INTO THIS AREA FOR IT.

THAT'S GOING TO BUMP UP THE SALES TAX AND THE ECONOMY OF OUR AREA.

IT WON'T HAPPEN RIGHT AWAY, BUT, STILLWATER DISTRICT OR STILLWATER BUSINESS PARK DIDN'T HAPPEN FOR 20 YEARS, SO I THINK WE COULD PROBABLY WAIT 10 FOR THAT.

I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS, YOU KNOW, THE PROFANITY THESE PEOPLE USE HERE.

THERE SHOULD BE SOMETHING LIKE, CHRISTIAN GARDNER WHEN HE STOOD UP AND F OFF.

THAT SHOULD BE SOMETHING THAT GETS YOU KICKED OUT OF THE CHAMBERS AND MAYBE NOT BE ABLE TO COME BACK ONCE OR TWICE.

STOP. I DON'T THINK IT'S UNCONSTITUTIONAL AT ALL.

I THINK THERE'S A CODE ABOUT FOUL LANGUAGE.

ANYWAY, I WISH THAT'D BE ADDRESSED, AND I WISH I HAD MORE TIME, BUT I GUESS WE'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT.

THE OPIOID MONEY, I THINK IT'D BE BETTER SPENT IF YOU BOUGHT A BUS AND TOOK SOME OF THESE AT RISK KIDS AROUND TO THESE HOMELESS CAMPS AND LET THEM SEE THEM, BECAUSE REALLY WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THE KIDS ISN'T WORKING WHEN IT COMES TO CONVINCING.

>> THANK YOU.

>> LAST, LORI BRIDGEFORD.

I DON'T, THERE SHE IS.

>> YOU?

>>IT'S GOING TO GO OFF. SORRY.

>> ADDRESS PUBLIC COMMENT WHATSOEVER TODAY, BUT BECAUSE OF THE ONGOING CONDUCT AND BEHAVIOR THAT CONTINUE EVERY SINGLE MEETING WITH THE SAME INDIVIDUAL OR TWO, I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE SOME AGREEMENT WHAT CONSTITUTES A WARNING, IT'S A SECOND WARNING, AND I DON'T KNOW.

IT JUST SEEMS LIKE WE'RE ALL TRYING TO KEEP UP WITH IT.

BUT I CAN NO LONGER TOLERATE DIVOS, WHEN YOU CONTINUALLY SAY RUDE THINGS TO ME WHEN I GETTING IN LINE, AND TODAY I'M GOING A DIFFERENT ROUTE, SO I DON'T HAVE TO GO NEAR HER OR THE LADY IN THE RED SHIRT RECALL.

SHE'S ANOTHER ONE THAT S TO SNICKER AND SAY VERY FOUL THINGS, TRYING TO PROVOKE.

YOU CAN BE THE BEST ROLE MODELS, BUT YOU STILL HAVE UNSTABLE PEOPLE THAT ARE ERRATIC, ANGRY, RAGEFUL, VENOMOUS, VILE.

THEY COME UP HERE IN RAT AND RAY EVERY OPPORTUNITY THAT THEY CAN.

VERY LITTLE PRODUCTIVE SOLUTIONS AND WHATNOT.

I'M GOING TO MAKE THIS PART OF MY TODAY IS GOING TO GO ARCHIVEAL ON THE RECORDS THAT SOMETHING DIFFERENT HAS TO CHANGE.

DOING THE SAME THING IS NOT WORKING WITH THESE PEOPLE AS SHE'S YAMMERING RIGHT NOW.

I HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO USE MY CAMERA.

I WAS NOT TRYING TO MURDER JENNY WITH WHATEVER HER SEIZURE ISSUE WAS, WHICH IS WHY I PUT THAT OUT THERE.

I HAVE MY FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHT TO EXPLAIN.

AS A PHOTOGRAPHER, THERE'S NO SIGN ON THIS BUILDING THAT SAYS YOU CANNOT USE FLASH.

NO. DOES IT EXIST.

AS CHAIR, THIS IS NOT FUN FOR YOU. I KNOW IT.

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I JUST THINK THAT THIS IS COMPLETELY ABUSIVE.

THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT WE DO.

WE NEED PSYCHIATRISTS BADLY.

SHE OUTBURST.

OUTBURST. SHE CAN'T CONTROL HERSELF.

IT'S RELENTLESS. IT'S ANNOYING.

IT ADDS TO JUST DIVISION, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT HER REAL ISSUE CONCERN AND PROBLEM IS, BUT IT'S NOT TO BE OURS HERE AT THESE MEETINGS.

WE HAVE THINGS TO DO. I'VE GOT LOTS ON HER. THIS IS RIDICULOUS.

>> THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S THE LAST SPEAKER.

>> THAT WAS OUR LAST SPEAKER, CHAIR, AND I APOLOGIZE FOR THEIR INTERRUPTION.

I DO WANT TO JUST MAKE ONE POINT FOR CLARIFICATION.

THE MOTION THAT SUPERVISOR PLUMMER HAD BROUGHT FORWARD TO BRING THE NARCAN ITEM BACK AT A LATER DATE.

JUST FOR CLARIFICATION BECAUSE WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT THE STRATEGIC PLAN AS WELL, WAS THE INTENT OF THE BOARD IN MAKING THAT MOTION TO BRING IT BACK AT THE END OF OCTOBER?

>> BY THE END OF OCTOBER. IT'S AN OPEN WINDOW.

>> THANK YOU.

>> YOU BET. THEN ALL RIGHT.

WE ARE PULLING C_2.

[CONSENT CALENDAR]

>> THAT IS CORRECT, CHAIR.

>> ALL RIGHT. I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE.

>> A MOTION TO APPROVE.

>> SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION BY SUPERVISOR COUNCIL TO APPROVE.