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[CALL TO ORDER]

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GOOD MORNING. TODAY IS A REGULAR MEETING OF THE SHASTA COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.

IT IS TUESDAY, AUGUST 12TH.

THE TIME IS 9 A.M.. WE HAVE ALL BOARD MEMBERS PRESENT ALONG WITH CEO DAVE RICKERT COUNTY COUNCIL JOE LARMER, AND FROM THE CLERK OF THE BOARD, STEPHANIE BLANKENSHIP, MIRANDA ANGEL.

AND IN THE FOYER, KRISTEN GOLDSMITH.

WE ENCOURAGE THOSE WISHING TO PARTICIPATE IN PUBLIC COMMENT, FILL OUT A SPEAKER REQUEST CARD AND SUBMIT IT TO THE CLERK IN THE FOYER.

SPEAKER REQUEST CARDS MUST BE SUBMITTED TO THE CLERK BEFORE PUBLIC COMMENT FOR EACH REGULAR ITEM BEGINS. WITH THAT, I'LL TURN THINGS OVER TO MISS BLANKENSHIP.

THANK YOU. THROUGH THE CHAIR, I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND EVERYONE IN ATTENDANCE TODAY OF THE BOARDROOM RULES OF ORDER AS OUTLINED IN ADMINISTRATIVE POLICY 1-101.

THOSE CAN BE FOUND ONLINE THROUGH THE CLERK OF THE BOARD'S WEBSITE. THIS POLICY INCLUDES SIGNAGE RESTRICTIONS, ATTENDEE SEATING, AND OVERALL CONDUCT TO ENSURE BUSINESS IS DONE IN AN ORDERLY FASHION AND THAT ALL HAVE AN EQUAL OPPORTUNITY TO OBSERVE AND PARTICIPATE UNLESS ADDRESSING THE BOARD, ALL THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE SHALL REMAIN SEATED IN THE CHAIRS PROVIDED. STANDING ALONG THE BACK WALL OF THE BOARDROOM IS ACCEPTABLE, SO LONG AS NO PERSON BLOCKS THE INGRESS OR EGRESS. MEMBERS OF THE MEDIA WHO WANT TO OBSERVE, RECORD OR OTHERWISE DOCUMENT A BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEETING ARE REQUESTED TO SET UP EQUIPMENT FROM THE DESIGNATED AREA ALONG THE SOUTH WINDOWS.

SHASTA COUNTY REMAINS COMMITTED TO CONDUCTING BUSINESS IN A PROFESSIONAL AND ACCESSIBLE ENVIRONMENT FOR ANYONE WISHING TO PARTICIPATE, ATTEND OR OTHERWISE ENGAGE WITH THE SHASTA COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.

WE KINDLY ASK THAT ALL ATTENDEES ADHERE TO THESE RULES.

WITH THAT, I HAVE A FEW ANNOUNCEMENTS FOR TODAY'S MEETING.

ITEM C-11 REGARDING THE EMPLOYMENT AGREEMENT WITH JOSEPH LARMOR HAS BEEN PULLED FOR DISCUSSION BY SUPERVISOR LONG.

THOSE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM SHOULD SUBMIT A SEPARATE SPEAKER REQUEST CARD TO THE CLERK IN THE FOYER BEFORE.

PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM BEGINS WITH THAT CHAIR, I'LL TURN THINGS BACK OVER TO YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO INVITE UP PASTOR COLIN DUFFY FROM REDDING NAZARENE CHURCH FOR OUR INVOCATION. I'D ASK YOU TO PLEASE STAND AND REMAIN STANDING AFTER THE PRAYER FOR THE PLEDGE LED BY SUPERVISOR PLUMMER.

GOOD MORNING. THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO PRAY FOR YOU ALL.

LET'S PRAY. FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR MANY, MANY BLESSINGS. WE THANK YOU FOR LIFE ITSELF, FOR THE MEASURE OF HEALTH THAT WE NEED TO FULFILL OUR CALLINGS FOR SUSTENANCE AND FOR FRIENDSHIP. THANK YOU FOR THE ABILITY TO BE INVOLVED IN USEFUL WORK IN THE SCRIPTURES.

YOU HAVE SAID THAT CITIZENS OUGHT TO OBEY THE GOVERNING AUTHORITY.

SINCE YOU HAVE ESTABLISHED THOSE VERY AUTHORITIES TO PROMOTE PEACE AND ORDER AND JUSTICE. THEREFORE, I PRAY FOR OUR COUNTRY, FOR THE VARIOUS LEVELS OF CITY OFFICIALS AND IN PARTICULAR FOR THIS ASSEMBLED BOARD.

I ASK THAT YOU WOULD GRACIOUSLY GRANT THEM WISDOM TO GOVERN AMID THE CONFLICTING INTERESTS AND ISSUES OF OUR TIMES.

GRANT THEM A SENSE OF THE WELFARE AND TRUE NEEDS OF OUR PEOPLE.

GRANT THEM A KEEN THIRST FOR JUSTICE AND RIGHTNESS.

GRANT THEM CONFIDENCE IN WHAT IS GOOD AND FITTING.

GRANT THEM THE ABILITY TO WORK TOGETHER IN HARMONY EVEN WHEN THERE IS HONEST DISAGREEMENT. GRANT THEM PERSONAL PEACE IN THEIR LIVES AND JOY IN THEIR TASK.

I PRAY FOR THE AGENDA SET BEFORE THEM TODAY.

PLEASE GIVE AN ASSURANCE OF WHAT WOULD PLEASE YOU AND WHAT WOULD BENEFIT THOSE WHO LIVE AND WORK IN AND AROUND OUR GREAT COUNTY OF SHASTA.

IN JESUS NAME. AMEN. AMEN.

JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.

ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. THANK YOU PASTOR.

THANK YOU. SUPERVISOR PLUMMER.

WITH THAT, MOVING ON TO THE REGULAR CALENDAR ARE ONE ADOPT A RESOLUTION WHICH RECOGNIZES

[R1 Adopt a resolution which recognizes Amy Hancock, Administrative Secretary II, of the Veterans Services Office as Shasta County’s Employee of the Month for August 2025.]

AMY HANCOCK, ADMINISTRATIVE SECRETARY, TWO OF THE VETERANS SERVICE OFFICE, AS SHASTA COUNTY'S EMPLOYEE OF THE MONTH FOR AUGUST 2025.

SUPERVISOR. KELSTROM. ALL RIGHT.

AND THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THIS ONE BECAUSE I ASKED FOR IT PERSONALLY.

SO WHEREAS THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS OF THE COUNTY OF SHASTA HAS ADOPTED THE SHASTA COUNTY EMPLOYEE RECOGNITION PROGRAM TO IDENTIFY EXCEPTIONAL EMPLOYEES WHO DESERVE TO BE RECOGNIZED AND HONORED FOR THEIR CONTRIBUTION TO COUNTY SERVICE.

AND WHEREAS SUCH RECOGNITION IS GIVEN TO EMPLOYEES MEETING THE CRITERIA OF THE PROGRAM, NAMELY EXCEPTIONAL CUSTOMER SERVICE, PROFESSIONALISM, HIGH ETHICAL STANDARDS, INITIATIVE, INNOVATION, TEAMWORK, PRODUCTIVITY, AND SERVICE AS A ROLE MODEL FOR OTHER PUBLIC EMPLOYEES.

AND WHEREAS, THE SHASTA COUNTY EMPLOYEE RECOGNITION COMMITTEE HAS CONSIDERED ALL CURRENT NOMINATIONS FOR THE SHASTA COUNTY EMPLOYEE OF THE MONTH, WHEREAS, AMY HANCOCK WAS HIRED IN THE VETERANS SERVICE OFFICE IN APRIL OF 2018 AS AN OFFICE ASSISTANT AND HAS QUICKLY BEEN PROMOTED TO HER CURRENT ASSIGNMENT AS AN ADMINISTRATIVE SECRETARY TO AMY, HAS CONTINUALLY PROVIDED POSITIVE IMPACT TO THE VSO THROUGH HER COMMUNICATION, DEDICATION AND ATTENTION TO DETAIL.

SHE HAS THE HEART OF THE OFFICE AND THE FIRST PERSON EVERYONE SEES UPON ENTERING.

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IN HER TENURE WITH THE VSO, AMY HAS INTERFACED WITH MANY INTERNAL AND EXTERNAL AGENCIES, PROVIDING THE HIGHEST QUALITY OF SERVICE.

SHE STARTED WRITING THE FIRST ADMINISTRATIVE MANUAL FOR THE VSO IN 2022, WITH MANY UPDATES ALONG THE WAY.

THIS HAS HELPED STREAMLINE NOT ONLY THE DEPARTMENT PROCESS AND PROCEDURES, BUT ALSO THE VSO'S FISCAL AND BUDGET GOALS, WHICH IN TURN HAS CREATED SAVINGS BY REDUCING OR ELIMINATING ONGOING EXPENSES.

AMY IS THE ONLY NON-VETERAN IN THE OFFICE, BUT HER DEDICATION TO SERVING VETERANS MAKES HER A ROLE MODEL TO THE ENTIRE OFFICE.

SHE HAS DEVELOPED A TIME MANAGEMENT AND COMMUNICATION STYLE THAT LENDS ITSELF TO SUPPORTING THE VETERANS FIRST, AND HER CARING ATTITUDE AND TRUSTWORTHINESS.

SHE CONTINUES TO PLAN VETERAN EVENTS, DISPLAYS AND TRAININGS, AS WELL AS GATHERING STATISTICS FOR VETERAN RELATED COMMITTEE WHILE STILL PERFORMING HER PRIMARY DUTIES. IN 2023, SHE WAS GIVEN OR EVEN ISSUED A FEDERAL ACCESS BADGE FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF VETERANS AFFAIRS. THIS PERMITS HER TO ANSWER MANY GENERAL QUESTIONS, ALLOWING THE VETERANS SERVICE REPRESENTATIVES TO FOCUS ON OTHER ASSIGNMENTS AND REDUCING WAIT TIMES FOR VETERANS TO SEE THEIR CASEWORKER, FOR THE REASONS STATED ABOVE. THE EMPLOYEE RECOGNITION COMMITTEE RECOMMENDS AMY HANCOCK, ADMINISTRATIVE SECRETARY TO.

IN THE SHASTA COUNTY VETERANS SERVICE OFFICE, BE SELECTED AS AN EMPLOYEE OF THE MONTH FOR AUGUST 2025.

NOW THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED THAT AMY HANCOCK, ADMINISTRATIVE SECRETARY WITH THE SHASTA COUNTY VETERANS OFFICE, IS HEREBY NAMED SHASTA COUNTY EMPLOYEE OF THE MONTH FOR AUGUST 2025.

AND WITH THAT, I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION.

I'LL SECOND. ALL RIGHT.

TROY, ARE YOU GOING TO COME UP FIRST? WELCOME, SIR. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. I'M GOING TO KEEP THIS REALLY SHORT, BECAUSE I HONESTLY BELIEVE THAT THE WORDS THAT WERE PROVIDED BY AMY'S PEERS CAN SPEAK LOUDER THAN I CAN EVER SPEAK AS HER SUPERVISOR.

I'VE HAD THE HONOR OF WORKING WITH MISS HANCOCK SINCE 2018, WHEN SHE BEGAN HER CAREER AT THE VETERANS SERVICE OFFICE AS AN OFFICE ASSISTANT.

HER IMMEDIATE POSITIVE IMPACT ON THE PERFORMANCE OF THE FRONT OFFICE OPERATIONS WAS APPARENT. HER WORK ETHIC, DEDICATION, COMPASSION WHILE SERVING VETERANS IN SHASTA COUNTY IS OBVIOUS IN HER DAILY.

IN HER DAILY INTERACTIONS WITH OUR VETERANS, AS WELL AS OUR INNER OFFICE AND COMMUNITY PARTNERS. TO EXPAND ON JUST A COUPLE OF THE MANY ACCOMPLISHMENTS NOTED IN HER NOMINATION IN 2021, SHE TOOK THE TASK OF LEARNING AND STREAMLINING MEDI-CAL PROCESSES IN OUR OFFICE TO BETTER WORK COLLABORATIVELY WITH HHS.

AYE BETWEEN 2021 AND TODAY, HER INGENUITY, COLLABORATION EFFORTS WITH HHS HAVE ENABLED THE VSO TO INCREASE MEDI-CAL VERIFICATION PROCESSING BY 34% AND INCREASED STATE REIMBURSEMENT REVENUE TO THE COUNTY.

EACH YEAR SINCE. IN 2023, SHE SET TO TASK ON A MISSION TO ANALYZE AND TRACK ALL CLAIMS FILED IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA AND THE PAYMENTS RECEIVED TO THE VETERANS SERVICE OFFICE, WHICH HAS ALLOWED THE VSO A BETTER OPPORTUNITY TO EVALUATE THE WORKLOADS AND ADJUST ACCORDINGLY BASED ON THE NEEDS OF THE VETERANS. BEYOND HER PRIMARY DUTIES, MISS HANCOCK CONTINUES TO COLLABORATE WITH COMMUNITY PARTNERS, VETERAN COMMITTEES AND ORGANIZATIONS TO PLAN VETERAN EVENTS, CREATE DISPLAYS AND INFORMATIONAL FLIERS, AND PROVIDE VALUABLE INSIGHT RELATED TO IDENTIFYING VETERANS NEEDS AND GAPS IN THE MUCH NEEDED SERVICE SERVICES.

IT IS MY HUMBLE PLEASURE TO PRESENT MISS AMY HANCOCK AS THE AUGUST 2025 SHASTA COUNTY EMPLOYEE OF THE MONTH. SO.

SO WE'RE GOING TO NEED ONE SECOND.

WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THE VOTE AND THEN CHRIS IS GOING TO COME DOWN THERE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

SO WE HAVE NO PUBLIC COMMENT. CORRECT MISS BLANKENSHIP. JUST ONE MORE TIME.

CORRECT. WE DON'T HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT. WE'LL TAKE THAT VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. PASSES FIVE ZERO.

SO BEFORE I COME DOWN THERE, AMY, I JUST WANT TO SAY ONE THING. SO A PERSONAL STORY. I BELIEVE IT WAS LAST YEAR.

WE WERE AT THE CRUISE IN COTTONWOOD, AND A YOUNG VETERAN CAME UP TO ME AND HIS WIFE, AND THEY WERE TALKING TO ME, AND I COULD TELL THAT HE WAS HAVING A HARD TIME. AND SO FIRST I STARTED TALKING ABOUT OUR HERO'S DREAMS AND TOLD HIM, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A GREAT ORGANIZATION. YOU REACH OUT TO THEM AND THEN LIKE AN ANSWER TO A PRAYER, YOU JUST APPEARED RIGHT THEN.

AND I'M LIKE, HEY, YOU NEED TO TALK TO THIS LADY RIGHT HERE TOO. SO I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THAT. I DON'T THINK I EVER HAD THE CHANCE, SO I'LL HEAD UP THERE.

THANK YOU. OKAY. I WILL HAND YOU THIS.

SO I HAVE A HAND FREE SO THAT I CAN READ BECAUSE I DIDN'T BRING MY GLASSES, SO I HAVE TO HOLD IT OUT HERE. SUPERVISOR. KELSTROM, DON'T STAND ON THIS STEP. YOU'RE ALREADY TALL ENOUGH. STAND A LITTLE BIT LOWER. AMY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO STAND ON THE STEP? OKAY, SO IN THIS BAG, IN THIS BAG, WE HAVE A SHASTA COUNTY ROSEWOOD PIN.

I GUESS I CAN GIVE YOU THE BAG. I DON'T HAVE TO HOLD ON TO IT. OKAY. THERE'S A ROSEWOOD PIN, A $30 AMAZON GIFT CERTIFICATE DONATED BY THE DEPARTMENT HEAD FORUM.

$20 GIFT CERTIFICATE DONATED BY THE SHERIFF'S ADMINISTRATIVE ASSOCIATION.

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A $50 PEACH BREWHOUSE GIFT CERTIFICATE DONATED BY TEAMSTERS 137.

A 25 CINEMARK GIFT CERTIFICATE DONATED BY TEAMSTERS 137.

A 25 TARGET GIFT CERTIFICATE DONATED BY TEAMSTERS 137 BOY, THEY DONATED A LOT. THANK YOU.

TEAMSTERS 25 AMAZON GIFT CERTIFICATE DONATED BY THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND A 2514 ALL GIFT CERTIFICATE DONATED BY THE UNITED PUBLIC EMPLOYEES OF CALIFORNIA UPEC GENERAL BARGAINING UNIT. SO WITH THAT, AND I THANK YOU VERY MUCH, AMY, AGAIN. AND IF YOU'D LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS.

GOOD MORNING BOARD. GOOD MORNING CHAIR. I WANT TO EXPRESS MY EXPRESS MY DEEP APPRECIATION FOR RECEIVING THIS RECOGNITION.

I AM TRULY HONORED AND HUMBLED BY THIS ACT OF KINDNESS.

I AM VERY LUCKY TO WORK WITH THE VETERANS OF SHASTA COUNTY AND BEYOND.

THE FREEDOMS WE VALUE DID NOT APPEAR BY CHANCE.

BEHIND EVERY RIGHT AND LIBERTY STANDS A LONG LINE OF VETERANS WHO STEPPED FORWARD TO PROTECT THOSE FREEDOMS. I WANT TO SAY TO THESE AMERICAN SERVICE MEMBERS WHO HAVE SHOWN REMARKABLE COURAGE AND RESILIENCE, THAT YOUR SACRIFICES RIPPLE THROUGH GENERATIONS.

CHILDREN GROW UP IN SAFETY BECAUSE YOU STOOD GUARD.

COMMUNITIES THRIVE BECAUSE YOU DEFENDED THEM.

BUSINESSES OPERATE FREELY BECAUSE YOU PROTECTED OUR WAY OF LIFE.

THE DEPTH OF MY GRATITUDE CAN ONLY BE SHOWN BY WORKING HARD EVERY DAY FOR YOU AND YOUR FAMILIES, AND BY REACHING OUT TO VETERANS IN OUR COMMUNITIES TO MAKE SURE THEY KNOW THEIR SERVICE MATTERED TO MY COWORKERS, SOME WHO ARE LISTENING FROM THE OFFICE.

I WILL FANGIRL OVER YOU GUYS EVERY DAY.

YOU ARE YOUR AMAZING WORK ETHIC, YOUR DEDICATION, YOUR SENSE OF HONOR, AND YOUR SENSE OF HUMOR IN THOSE DARK AND HEAVY DAYS.

THANK YOU FOR BEING ON MY TEAM AND ALWAYS HAVING MY BACK.

I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE VETERANS ORGANIZATIONS AND NONPROFITS I WORK WITH OVER THE YEARS. THANK YOU, ALL OF YOU.

THANK YOU FOR TAKING MY CALLS AND ANSWERING MY QUESTIONS AND FREELY EDUCATING ME ON SO MUCH. I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF ISSUES TO GET HERE TODAY, SO I WILL TAKE MY LEAVE AND SAY THAT I'M TRULY GRATEFUL FOR THIS HONOR AND EXCITED FOR WHAT THE FUTURE HOLDS FOR OUR OFFICE. THANK YOU.

WHOEVER YOU WANT.

COORDINATOR. IS A LITTLE HARDER. FOR HER.

I. DON'T LIKE THAT.

THANK YOU. SUPERVISOR KELSTROM AND TROY PAYNE, VETERANS SERVICE OFFICE. I WANT TO MAKE ONE QUICK ANNOUNCEMENT AS WELL.

R THREE HAS BEEN RESCHEDULED TO SEPTEMBER 9TH.

SO DOUG BOND WILL BE COMING FROM THE AMITY FOUNDATION ON SEPTEMBER 9TH.

ALL RIGHT. MOVING TO R TWO.

[R2 Receive an update from the County Executive Officer on County issues and consider action on specific legislation related to Shasta County’s legislative platform and receive Supervisors’ reports on countywide issues.]

RECEIVE AN UPDATE FROM THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE OFFICER ON COUNTY ISSUES AND CONSIDER ACTION ON SPECIFIC LEGISLATION RELATED TO SHASTA COUNTY'S LEGISLATIVE PLATFORM AND RECEIVE SUPERVISOR'S REPORTS ON COUNTYWIDE ISSUES.

CEO RICKERT GOOD MORNING, CHAIRMAN CRYE.

MEMBERS OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS. DAVE RICKERT COUNTY EXECUTIVE OFFICER, REPORTING WITH AN UPDATE ON COUNTY ISSUES, THE CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC HEALTH WOULD LIKE TO EXTEND CONGRATULATIONS TO SHASTA COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC HEALTH AND RECEIVING THE PREMIER BREASTFEEDING AWARD OF EXCELLENCE FOR BREASTFEEDING PEER COUNSELOR PROGRAM. THE PRESTIGIOUS BREASTFEEDING AWARD OF EXCELLENCE RECOGNIZES AND CELEBRATES WITH

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LOCAL AGENCIES THAT PROVIDE EXEMPLARY BREASTFEEDING SUPPORT AND SERVICES.

OUR AGENCY HAS EFFECTIVELY SHOWCASED BEST PRACTICES, PROCESSES AND POLICIES IN PROMOTING AND SUPPORTING BREASTFEEDING.

IN OTHER NEWS, LAST SATURDAY I PARTICIPATED IN THE FIRE SAFE COUNCILS SLASH COLLECTION DAY BY DROPPING OFF A LOAD OF BRANCHES.

AFTERWARDS, I MADE A STOP AT THE SHINGLETOWN SAWDUST AND FOUNDERS DAY FESTIVAL AND GOT A DELICIOUS BURGER AT THE VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT BOOTH.

THERE WAS ALSO A BIG TURNOUT THERE IN SUPPORT OF THE LOCAL LIBRARY.

THIS CONCLUDES MY REPORT.

THANK YOU. CEO RICKERT.

WE'LL START TO MY. I DON'T REMEMBER WHERE IT WAS BECAUSE I WAS TWO WEEKS AGO. I THINK WE'LL START TO MY RIGHT WITH SUPERVISOR PLUMMER. GOOD MORNING EVERYONE.

GOING TO SHARE THREE UPDATES, MAYBE A FOURTH DEPENDING ON MY TIME, WHICH I CAN'T SEE RIGHT NOW. SO I'M GOOD TO GO FOR AS LONG AS I WANT. WE'LL HELP YOU. SO THE FIRST THING IS, ONE OF THE THINGS I'VE BEEN INTERESTED IN THAT RELATES TO KIND OF A BROADER INTEREST IN THE HEALTH OF OUR COMMUNITY IS THE HEALTH CARE COSTS THAT WE'RE SPENDING FOR THOSE IN OUR JAIL.

AND SO THAT NUMBER HAS GONE UP ABOUT $1 MILLION OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS, FROM ABOUT 4.6 MILLION TO 5.5.

AND I SPOKE WITH WELLPATH THIS PAST WEEK, WHICH IS THE PROVIDER OF HEALTH CARE SERVICES WITHIN THE JAIL. AND I WANTED TO SHARE A FEW INTERESTING DATA POINTS FROM THAT CONVERSATION. ONE IS THE PERCENT OF SHASTA COUNTY INMATES WITH A SUBSTANCE USE DISORDER, AND THAT'S ABOUT 50% JUST SHY OF THAT.

IT'S PERCENT OF SHASTA COUNTY INMATES WITH CHRONIC DISEASE.

AND THAT'S 68%. SO A REALLY HIGH PERCENTAGE THERE PERCENT ON PSYCHOTROPIC MEDICATIONS.

SO PSYCHIATRIC MEDICATIONS, THAT'S 57%.

AND SO THE, THAT ALL LEADS US TO, AND THIS IS SOMETHING I'M CHECKING WITH THEM BECAUSE THEY WERE, WE WERE HAVING SOME CONVERSATION ABOUT IT.

BUT IF YOU LOOK AT OUR HEALTH CARE SPENDING PER INMATE, WE HAVE THE HIGHEST RATE OF THAT RELATIVE TO THE OTHER COUNTIES THAT WELLPATH SERVES, WHICH I THINK IS 20 TO 30 OTHER COUNTIES.

AND SO THAT YOU KNOW, WHEN THE SHERIFF PRESENTED ON MEDICALLY ASSISTED TREATMENT AND BOOSTING THAT AND SOME OF THE PROGRAMS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT WITH AMNESTY IN THIS NEW CAMPUS, THE HOPE IS THAT WE'RE ABLE TO ADDRESS THOSE NEEDS IN A WAY THAT'S CAN BRING DOWN THOSE HEALTH CARE EXPENDITURES AND ALSO INCREASE THE LIKELIHOOD THAT THOSE FOLKS WILL REENTER THE COMMUNITY AND BE HEALTHY AND LESS LIKELY TO, YOU KNOW, COMMIT ANOTHER CRIME.

SO MORE TO COME ON THAT MORE.

YOU KNOW, I'M INTERESTED IN KIND OF CONTINUING TO DIVE INTO THAT, BUT JUST WANTED TO GIVE THAT UPDATE. THE SECOND ONE IS AROUND HOMELESSNESS.

I MENTIONED AT OUR LAST BOARD MEETING THAT THERE'S AN INTEREST FROM A HOTEL IN REDDING AND AROUND BASICALLY OFFERING THAT TO BE CONVERTED INTO PERMANENT AND TRANSITIONAL HOUSING. AND SO SINCE THAT, WE HAVE HAD A DEVELOPER WHO'S INTERESTED AND IS GOING TO BE LOOKING AT THAT.

SO THERE'LL BE MORE TO COME.

BUT IF YOU'RE A DEVELOPER OR AN INVESTOR IN REAL ESTATE AND WANT TO CONTRIBUTE IN THAT WAY, FEEL FREE TO REACH OUT TO ME.

AND I'M HAPPY TO HAVE AN INITIAL CONVERSATION AND SEE IF THERE'S INTEREST THERE.

RELATED. THERE'S BEEN A PROJECT UP IN SHASTA LAKE CALLED VETERANS VILLAGE, WHICH WAS SUPPOSED TO BE ABOUT 33 UNITS OF PERMANENT HOUSING FOR VETERANS, AND THAT PROJECT HAS BEEN STALLED FOR, I THINK, ABOUT 6 OR 7 YEARS NOW.

AND THE GOOD NEWS IS THERE WAS STATE MONEY CALLED HOMEKEY PLUS THAT IS USED SPECIFICALLY FOR VETERAN HOUSING, AND THAT THE DEADLINE FOR APPLYING FOR THAT WAS THIS SPRING.

AND SO WE DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO DO THAT BECAUSE OF SOME THINGS AROUND WHO OWNS THAT PROPERTY RIGHT NOW. BUT THEY REOPENED THAT JUST THIS PAST WEEK.

AND SO AGAIN, I WOULD SAY IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN DEVELOPING YOU KNOW, SOME AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR VETERANS UP IN SHASTA LAKE, AND THAT'S SOMETHING YOU WANT TO BE A PART OF. FEEL FREE TO REACH OUT BECAUSE WE MIGHT HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO USE SOME OF THESE STATE FUNDS TO BE ABLE TO GET THAT PROJECT REALLY OFF THE GROUND AFTER SEVEN YEARS OF, OF BASICALLY BEING STALLED, THE POTENTIALLY THE LAST THING THAT I WANTED TO SHARE IS YESTERDAY I WAS ON A CALL WITH CSAC, WHICH IS THE CALIFORNIA STATE ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES.

THEY HAD THEIR HEALTH POLICY COMMITTEE MEETING, AND THERE THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT THE FEDERAL CUTS TO THE BUDGET THAT CAME THROUGH THE BIG BEAUTIFUL BILL, OR FORMERLY KNOWN AS H.R.

ONE. AND I WANTED TO SHARE A FEW OF THE THINGS THAT AT LEAST WAS COMMUNICATED DURING THAT. AND I'M GOING TO LOOK AT MY NOTES HERE TO MAKE SURE THAT I, I GET IT RIGHT, BUT THE BECAUSE IT WILL HAVE IMPLICATIONS FOR THE COUNTY.

AND I'LL KIND OF SHARE BRIEFLY MY, MY THOUGHTS ON THAT IN A SECOND, BUT I JUST WANTED TO FIRST ADDRESS THAT.

SO THE 1 IN 5 CALIFORNIANS TEND TO ACCESS CALFRESH,

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WHICH IS FOOD STAMPS IN CALIFORNIA OR ARE FACING FOOD INSECURITY.

SO THAT'S A, YOU KNOW, A SIGNIFICANT PORTION.

I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT PERCENTAGE FOR SHASTA COUNTY, BUT SO THAT'S THE POPULATION THAT WILL BE AFFECTED.

AND WHAT WAS SHARED IN THAT MEETING IS THAT CURRENTLY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT COVERS 50% OF THE COSTS. STATE COVERS 35% IN THE COUNTY.

ABOUT 15%. AND THAT THAT WILL BE CHANGING SO THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WILL GO FROM 50 DOWN TO 22 OR 25%. AND THE STATE WILL HAVE TO GO UP TO 55%, AND THE COUNTY WILL GO FROM 15% UP TO 22.5%.

SO INCREASING BY ABOUT 50%.

WHEN THAT GOES INTO EFFECT.

AND SO THAT'S SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT WITH THE SOCIAL SECURITY ADMINISTRATION BUDGET WITHIN HHS BUDGET, HOW THAT'S ALREADY BEEN STRETCHED AS BENEFITS HAVE BEEN INCREASING WITHOUT REVENUE CORRESPONDING TO THAT, THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO STAY ON TOP OF. SO THERE'LL BE MORE CONVERSATION AND PLANNING AROUND HOW WE ADDRESS THAT, BUT WANTED TO, TO FLAG THAT AS SOMETHING COMING DOWN THE PIKE AS WELL.

SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

SUPERVISOR. PLUMMER. SUPERVISOR. HARMON. GOOD MORNING.

THANK YOU, MR. MATT. MY FAVORITE PART.

REPORTING BACK. WHAT ARE YOU GRINNING AT? YOU'RE NEXT. ONE THING I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS, LIKE, RIGHT OFF IS I. I SIGNED A PETITION AT MY WIFE, AND I STOPPED THE HOLIDAY MARKET.

SHE'S GRABBING GROCERIES.

SHE GOES IN THE STORE JUST AHEAD OF ME.

I GET STOPPED AT THE DOOR TO SIGN A PETITION AND A PETITION THAT WE'D ALL SIGN.

NO PROBLEM. AND I, AND I DON'T REGRET SIGNING IT, BUT I GOT EARMARKED AS THE ONLY SUPERVISOR UP HERE THAT DIDN'T SIGN THIS PETITION.

AND, AND, AND IT GOT KIND OF USED IRRESPONSIBLY, IN MY OPINION, BECAUSE WE BECAUSE NUMBER ONE, IT WAS PRIVATE. NOT THAT I CARE THAT ANYBODY KNOWS I SIGNED IT, BUT IT SHOULDN'T GET USED AS A, I DON'T KNOW, LIKE A WEAPON OR A POLITICAL SOMETHING DIVISIVE.

I, WHEN I WAS RUNNING FOR SUPERVISOR, I WAS ALL ABOUT BOARD COLLABORATION US, YOU KNOW, COMING TOGETHER ON ISSUES, BEING ABLE TO TALK PROFESSIONALLY AND, AND NOT HAVING YOU KNOW, EMBARRASSING MOMENTS, I'LL CALL IT BECAUSE I'VE SEEN A LOT OF EMBARRASSING MOMENTS IN HERE AND I'M.

AND I'M THANKFUL THAT THIS BOARD HAS ACCOMPLISHED THAT.

IN MY OPINION. WE ALL GET ALONG.

WE'RE ALL PROFESSIONAL.

WE DON'T ALWAYS AGREE.

THAT'S OKAY. THAT'S NOT WE'RE NOT HERE TO TOTALLY AGREE ALL THE TIME.

IT'S OKAY IF WE DISAGREE, BUT WE NEED TO DO IT IN A PROFESSIONAL MANNER. AND I THINK WE'VE ACCOMPLISHED THAT.

AND I WANT TO SEE THAT CONTINUE.

I LOVE THAT PART ABOUT WHAT WE'RE, WHAT WE'RE DOING.

WE'RE ABLE TO, TO, TO TALK, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S IN THE CLOSED SESSIONS OR OUT HERE IN FRONT OF EVERYBODY AND, AND WORK THINGS OUT AND, AND, AND, YOU KNOW, DISCUSS THE DETAILS AND AND FEEL COMFORTABLE THAT, I DON'T KNOW, A CLASSROOM OF KIDS COULD COME IN HERE ON A FIELD TRIP AND ACTUALLY WATCH THE THE PROGRESS. FOR THE MOST PART, 99% OF IT IS NOT RATED IN SOME WAY THAT YOU WOULDN'T WANT YOUR KIDS TO LISTEN TO IT. AND, AND I APPRECIATE THAT.

AND I'LL SAY THAT TO EVERYBODY HERE ON THE BOARD.

AND I'M VERY THANKFUL FOR THAT.

ON TO A LITTLE BUSINESS.

WENT TO THE ASPHALT COWBOYS.

I'M NOT GOING TO DO THIS IN ORDER, BUT I WENT TO THE ASPHALT COWBOYS LUNCHEON WHERE THEY'RE YOU KNOW, IT WAS MOSTLY ABOUT ADVERTISING OR PROMOTING THE, THE PROGRAM. SO THAT THAT WAS A NICE LUNCHEON.

MISSED YOU OVER THERE, MIKE.

WHAT? I KNOW, I KNOW AND THEN WENT UP TO THE CATTLEMEN JOINT FARM BUREAU BARBECUE UP AT, ON HAT TRICK AT THE HEREFORD RANCH LAST TUESDAY NIGHT AND WE, WE GOT TO LISTEN TO SEVERAL PEOPLE.

A COUPLE OF THEM WERE FROM BERKELEY THAT LADIES THAT ARE DOING DOCTOR CAGES.

IT WAS ONE OF THEM. SHE WAS THE, THE DID MOST OF THE TALKING REGARDING THE WOLVES. I'M GOING TO KEEP TALKING ABOUT THE WOLVES. THERE'S A FAMILY UP THERE.

MARK BIDWELL. BIDWELL FAMILY.

THEY'RE HAPPENING. IT'S IT'S EASY FOR US IN THE COMFORT DOWN HERE IN THE VALLEY IN OUR DOING A RUN AROUND, DOING OUR BUSINESS. IT'S EVEN MORE COMFORTABLE FOR PEOPLE DOWN SOUTH SACRAMENTO OR WHEREVER THAT ARE MAKING DECISIONS THAT ARE AFFECTING FAMILIES THAT ARE UP HERE TRYING TO MAKE A LIVING, THAT HAVE BEEN DOING WHAT THEY'RE DOING FOR

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GENERATIONS. AND NOW THEY'RE HAVING TO ACTUALLY SPEND THE NIGHT IN, IN OUT IN THE FIELDS TO PROTECT THEIR CATTLE BECAUSE THE CATTLE ARE COMING IN OR THE WOLVES ARE COMING IN AND KILLING THEIR CATTLE.

THIS IS THIS IS A FAMILY THAT I KNOW.

MY FAMILY, WE RODEOED WITH THEM.

WE'RE PERSONAL FRIENDS.

WITH THEM. I CAN I CAN TELL YOU I TALKED TO THEM PERSONALLY AND I KNOW THAT THIS IS THIS IS REAL, BUT IT DOESN'T SEEM REAL TO US BECAUSE WE DON'T WE DON'T GET TO EXPERIENCE IT OR WE DON'T HAVE THE, THE, THE PROBLEMS THEY HAVE.

THAT'S JUST ONE FAMILY.

BUT IT'S RIGHT HERE. IT'S IN SHASTA COUNTY AND THEY'RE KILLING THEIR CATTLE AND THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT. THEY'VE GOT COLLARS ON THESE WOLVES AND THEY'RE TRACKING THEM, AND THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE TELLING US, HEY, THEY'RE COMING IN YOUR AREA AND THEY'RE STARTING TO ALLOW THEM TO TO DO THINGS TO SCARE THEM OFF.

BUT WE KNOW HOW TO HANDLE THAT, BUT WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO.

BUT THESE, THESE, THESE TRACKERS TALKING, LISTENING TO THIS LADY TALK.

DOCTOR KAGI, THESE TRACKER CALLERS WE HAVE 1 TO 2 YEAR BATTERY LIFE, AND THEN THEY GOT TO CAPTURE THEM AND REPLACE THE BATTERIES.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. I HAVE A PRETTY GOOD IDEA. THEY, ONE OF THE ONE OF THE RANCHERS ASKED, WHAT'S THE END GAME HERE? WHAT ARE WE WHAT ARE WE WHAT ARE WE, WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN OR HAVE TO HAPPEN? OR HOW BAD IS THIS GOING TO GET BEFORE WE'RE ACTUALLY ABLE TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT? WELL, THE, THE, THE NOBODY REALLY HAD AN ANSWER.

THEY DIDN'T REALLY HAVE AN ANSWER. AND I ASKED THE LADY, I SAID, DID YOU I'M SURE YOU KNOW ABOUT THE ARTICLE THAT AXL HONEYCUTT PUT OUT IN THE LA TIMES WHERE HE SAID THAT HE THOUGHT THAT THE I-80 CORRIDOR, NORTH, I-5 CORRIDOR EAST, I THINK IT WAS 4600 ZERO SQUARE MILES THAT HE THOUGHT THAT THAT COULD HANDLE 500 WOLVES.

WELL, IF YOU START DOING THE MATH ON THAT, HOW MANY WOLVES THAT IS AND HOW DEVASTATING THAT'S GOING TO BE. THIS IS THIS IS OUR FOOD SUPPLY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IN PEOPLE'S WAY OF LIFE. AND I'M PRETTY SURE THEY'RE NOT GOING TO KEEP UP WITH THE BATTERIES ON THE, ON THE COLLARS OR THE COLLARS ON.

AND WHEN THEY GET TO A CERTAIN SATURATION POINT.

I'M SURE IT'S JUST LET THEM GO.

BECAUSE NOW WE HAVE NOW WE HAVE ENOUGH WOLVES OUT THERE THAT THEY CAN TAKE OVER.

AND I SAID IT ONCE BEFORE, I'LL SAY IT AGAIN WHEN THEY, WHEN THE RANCHERS CAN'T GET UP IN THE HILLS AND GRAZE ON THEIR GRAZING LEASES, IF THEY CAN'T GO UP THERE AND GRAZE THAT AND THE GRASS GETS 3 OR 4FT TALL.

IF YOU THINK YOU HAVE FIRE PROBLEMS NOW, THAT'S GOING TO EVEN GET WORSE.

SORRY. I'M GOING TO KEEP BRINGING IT UP BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO KEEP GETTING WORSE. I'M GOING TO KEEP BRINGING IT UP. AND IT NEEDS TO BE BROUGHT UP.

AND I, I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S PATIENCE LISTENING, LISTENING TO IT. AND I THINK I'LL QUIT RIGHT THERE. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

SUPERVISOR. HARMON. SUPERVISOR. KELSTROM. ALL RIGHT. ON THE JULY 30TH, I HAD A MEETING WITH THE SHERIFF. AND THEN LATER ON, I HAD THE MEETING WITH THE INTERIM DIRECTOR OF CHURN CREEK WATER DISTRICT, JIM WADLEY, ALONG WITH CEO RICKERT AND AARON BURTON AND STEWART. AND THEN ON THE SECOND I HAD, I WAS ABOUT TO GO OUTSIDE AND START WORKING, DOING SOME YARD WORK.

AND I GOT A NOTIFICATION THAT THE THEY WERE HAVING A BREAKFAST DOWN AT THE THE LEGION HALL IN COTTONWOOD. SO I WENT DOWN THERE HAPPENED TO BE THE MONTHLY CLAMPER MEETING TOO. SO FORTUNATELY I MADE IT OUT OF THERE ALIVE, BUT THE CLAMPERS ARE A PRETTY GOOD GROUP OF GUYS.

THEY HAVE A LOT OF FUN. AND THEN I WAS AT THE ANDERSON SENIOR CENTER FOR BREAKFAST THE NEXT DAY, AND THEN WITH SUPERVISOR HARMON, WE WERE AT THE ASPHALT COWBOYS LUNCHEON. SO THEY WERE THERE TO PROMOTE THEIR THEIR, THEIR BIG FEED EVERY YEAR, THEIR BIG LUNCH OR DINNER.

SO SEPTEMBER 7TH, CALDWELL PARK, MARK YOUR CALENDARS FOR THAT, GET YOUR TICKETS IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY GOTTEN THEM. AND THEN THAT NIGHT I WENT TO A REDDING CITY COUNCIL MEETING AND THEN HURRIED ON DOWN TO ANDERSON AND WENT TO THE NATIONAL NIGHT OUT AT THE ANDERSON RIVER PARK, AS WELL AS ANDERSON VFW.

AND I ENDED A FORMER SUPERVISOR LES BOSWELL'S.

HE WAS HAVING QUITE THE BLOCK PARTY. AND I'M GOING TO SAVE THE BEST FOR LAST HERE.

SO ON THE SEVENTH I DID A LAFCO MEETING AND THEN THE NINTH I WAS BACK AT THE ANDERSON VFW. AND I DID THE SHINGLETOWN FIRE HALL AND FOLLOWED BY THE FOUNDER'S DAY PARADE.

I MISSED YOU THERE, DAVE, BUT I WAS OVER AT THE JUDGES BOOTH. THEY ASKED ME TO JUDGE THE PARADE. SO AND I LEFT SHORTLY THEREAFTER.

THE NEXT DAY I WAS AT WHITMORE, THE MONTHLY BREAKFAST WITH SUPERVISOR HARMON.

AND THEN YESTERDAY I WAS AT A FUNERAL OUT IN EAGLE CEMETERY AND AN ARMY VETERAN FROM VIETNAM ERA FRED BEALE HAPPENS TO BE MY AUNT'S BROTHER, SO I CALLED HIM UNCLE FRED.

HE HAD PASSED AWAY AND ONE OF HIS PRIZED POSSESSIONS AND IT WASN'T THERE, BUT ONE OF HIS PRIZED POSSESSIONS WHEN HE WAS IN VIETNAM. HE WROTE TO GOVERNOR REAGAN AT THE TIME AND ASKED FOR A CALIFORNIA FLAG.

AND GOVERNOR REAGAN SENT ONE OVER THERE, AND FRED BEALE DISPLAYED IT IN VIETNAM WHEN HE WAS OVER THERE. SO THAT WAS PRETTY COOL. AND THEN WE'LL GO BACK TO THE. ON THE SIXTH, I ATTENDED A JUVENILE HALL GRADUATION CEREMONY.

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JUVENILE HALL HAD BROUGHT IN A CULINARY TEACHER FROM SHASTA COLLEGE, AND SHE SPENT THE SUMMER WORKING WITH A FEW KIDS THERE.

I DON'T KNOW. I PROBABLY SHOULDN'T SAY THE KIDS NAMES, I'M GUESSING. OKAY. YEAH. SO ANYWAYS, BUT SHE WORKED WITH THEM AND THEIR FINAL WAS THEY ALL BAKED A CAKE AND THERE WAS A BUNCH OF US IN THIS FRONT ROW RIGHT HERE.

I THINK WE HAD BRYCE AND PATRICK AND JARED WERE THERE, WAS THERE.

AND WHEN WE ALL ATE CAKE, ONE OF THE KIDS HAD MADE A GERMAN CHOCOLATE CAKE. ANOTHER ONE HAD MADE A CHOCOLATE TRUFFLE CAKE, ANOTHER ONE HAD MADE A CARROT CAKE AND ANOTHER ONE HAD MADE A CHOCOLATE CHEESECAKE.

WHEN THEY ASKED IF ANYBODY WANTED SECONDS, JARED WENT AHEAD AND OFFERED ME UP FOR SECONDS. WHICH REMINDS ME, WE NEED TO DO A JOB PERFORMANCE EVALUATION ON JARED HERE IN THE VERY NEAR FUTURE.

BUT JARED OFFERED ME UP SECONDS AND THEY ASKED ME, WHICH ONE DO YOU WANT? WELL, I COULDN'T HARDLY PICK ONE BECAUSE THE OTHER THREE KIDS WOULD THINK THAT THAT WAS MY FAVORITE. SO I GOT ALL FOUR OF THEM.

AND THE ONE YOUNG MAN ASKED ME, DO YOU WANT THEM ON THE SAME PLATE? I SAID, SURE, SO THEY PUT IT ALL ON THE SAME PLATE, PUT IT IN FRONT OF ME. AND I THOUGHT, SINCE CHAIRMAN CRYE ALWAYS ACCUSES ME OF DOING ALL THE FUN STUFF. I THOUGHT I'D BRING THAT PICTURE AND SHARE IT WITH HIM. THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

SUPERVISOR KELSTROM SUPERVISOR LONG THANK YOU CHAIR.

CAN WE PLEASE GET THAT PICTURE? THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

THAT MADE ME SICK LOOKING.

SORRY. THANK YOU, AND GOOD MORNING TO EVERYONE.

WELCOME. SO I RECEIVED NOTIFICATION THAT THE STATE LANDS COMMISSION WAS GOING TO BE CONDUCTING A HEARING AND WILL BE CONDUCTING A HEARING LATER THIS MONTH.

AND SO I GOT A HOLD OF THE STAFF ATTORNEY FOR STATE LANDS COMMISSION.

AND ALSO IT'S GOING TO AFFECT WHISKEY TOWN PARK AREA AND A COUPLE PROPERTIES IN THE SURROUNDS THAT ARE BLM PROPERTIES CURRENTLY.

AND BASICALLY IT'S A TEN YEAR CONCURRENT JURISDICTION THAT THEY HAVE TO VOTE ON AND RENEW. THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON SINCE THE 70S, APPARENTLY.

SO IT'S A RENEWAL OF THAT, BUT THEY'RE GOING TO BE ADDING IN A FEW EXTRA PROPERTIES THAT THE STATE LANDS COMMISSION HAS THE AUTHORITY TO CEDE CRIMINAL JURISDICTION SO THAT BASICALLY THE SHERIFF CAN INVESTIGATE ON THE COMMUNITY PROPERTY OR THE OUTSIDE PROPERTIES, THE PARK PROPERTIES.

THE FEDS CAN COME IN THERE UNDER I WROTE THIS DOWN, BUT IT'S UNDER SOMETHING CALLED THE ASSIMILATIVE CRIMES ACT AND THEY CAN PROSECUTE CRIMES. AND SO BASICALLY, I WANTED TO KNOW WHAT THIS WAS ALL ABOUT AND HOW IT WOULD AFFECT DISTRICT TWO AND WHISKEY TOWN PARK.

AND BASICALLY, HERE'S HOW IT WORKS.

THE, THE, THERE IS A HISTORY FOR ABOUT 50 LAST 50 YEARS WHERE WE HAVE CONCURRENT JURISDICTION. AND IT'S SIMPLY A RENEWAL OF THAT WITHIN THE PARK BOUNDARIES PROPER.

AND THEN THERE'S ALSO GOING TO BE THE ADDITION OF A FEW SURROUNDING PROPERTIES, WHICH THEY SENT ME A MAP.

I WATCHED THAT WHICH THEY WILL HAVE THE SAME CONCURRENT JURISDICTION.

AND SO BASICALLY, IT'S A GOOD THING THE SHERIFF IS ON BOARD WITH IT.

I CHECKED DIFFERENT SOURCES THAT HE SUPPORTS THIS.

AND SO IT'S KIND OF A NO BRAINER, BUT IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST TO COVER CRIMINAL PROSECUTIONS.

IT DOESN'T AFFECT VOTING OR ANY OTHER THINGS THAT HAPPEN WITHIN THE PARK OR THE ADJACENT PARCELS. SO THAT WAS REALLY INTERESTING.

AND I WAS APPRECIATIVE TO JOSH HOYNES AND THE SUPERINTENDENT AND STATE LANDS COMMISSION FOR THAT UPDATE AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S GOING TO COME UP IN THIS HEARING ON THE 21ST I MET WITH TODD JONES THE REDDING CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, AND WE DISCUSSED GENERAL ISSUES.

AND AS EVERYBODY PROBABLY IS AWARE, HE HAD A BACKGROUND WITH THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION, EDC.

SO WE HAD A LOT OF CARRYOVER CONVERSATIONS ABOUT PERMITTING PROCESSES FOR BUSINESSES APPLYING HERE, AND I'M GOING TO BE LOOKING INTO A FEW ISSUES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO THAT WAS A GREAT CONVERSATION WITH TODD JONES.

AND THEN FINALLY, I TOOK A TOUR OF THE PROSPECTIVE NEW ROVE'S OFFICE THAT'S PROPOSED. I MET WITH CLINT CURTIS, THE ROV CLERK, AND WE TOURED THAT AND HE ANSWERED A LOT OF MY QUESTIONS AS TO WHAT WHAT THAT PROPOSAL IS ALL ABOUT. AND THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT.

THANK YOU, SUPERVISOR LONG. SO OBVIOUSLY THIS WEEK, MANY OF THE SCHOOLS IN OUR AREA SCHOOL DISTRICTS ARE GOING BACK TO SCHOOL.

SO I FIRST WANT TO CAUTION PEOPLE JUST TO REMEMBER, AS YOU'RE DRIVING, THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF KIDS AND A LOT OF MOVEMENT THROUGH NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE MAYBE THEY'VE BEEN SLEEPING IN, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE SLEEPING IN. THAT MEANS THERE'S BUS STOPS, THERE'S PARENT DROP OFFS.

SO PLEASE BE PATIENT AND JUST BE LOOKING OUT FOR THAT ALSO.

AND THIS IS ON A PRIVATE SIDE, NOT SO MUCH THE GOVERNMENT SIDE, BUT A DEAR FRIEND AND FORMER PRINCIPAL SUPERINTENDENT FROM UPREP PASSED AWAY AND HER SERVICE WAS THIS LAST WEEK.

SO THIS IS GOING TO BE ONE OF THE FIRST YEARS THAT IN THE HISTORY OF UPREP THAT SHE'S NOT

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GOING TO BE ON CAMPUS.

SO I JUST WANT TO SEND MY CONDOLENCES TO THE ANGLEY JOHNSON AND HOLMAN FAMILIES.

THE LAI LAW LIBRARY. BOARD.

I HAD A MEETING FOR THAT.

IT WAS, I'LL TELL YOU, NOT THAT YOU'D WANT TO GO BECAUSE THERE'S LIKE FIVE OF US SITTING IN THAT, BUT YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT A FAST MEETING WITH THE LAW LIBRARY BOARD. YOU HAVE A LOT OF ATTORNEYS WHO ARE SQUEEZING THAT IN BEFORE THEY GOT TO GET BACK TO COURT. OUR ACTUAL CHAIR FOR THAT IS JUDGE BEN HANNA.

SO ANYWAY, WE HAD THAT HAD THAT MEETING THIS LAST WEEK.

I MET WITH THE SHERIFF AND SUPERVISOR KELSTROM AND CEO RICKERT AND SOME OTHER STAFF. THERE'S SOME LEADERSHIP AND CROSS TRAINING THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING IN THE JAIL AND NOT JUST WITHIN THE JAIL, BUT WITHIN THE ENTIRE DEPARTMENT.

AND I REALLY WANT TO COMMEND THE SHERIFF ON THAT.

A LOT OF TIMES, SOMETIMES LEADERSHIP PEOPLE WILL SILO INDIVIDUALS, BUT HE CROSS TRAINS THEM.

AND WHAT THAT DOES, AND I'LL TELL YOU ALSO. OUR COUNTY COUNCIL DOES THAT.

AND SOME AGENCIES A LOT OF TIMES JUST SILO PEOPLE AND THEY DO IT FOR DIFFERENT REASONS.

WHAT THAT DOES THOUGH, ALSO IS IT MAKES THOSE INDIVIDUALS MORE MARKETABLE. AND THERE'S A GREATER CHANCE OF OTHER COUNTIES OR CITIES POACHING THOSE EMPLOYEES, BECAUSE IN THE COUNTY COUNSEL'S OFFICE, THEY HAVE A WIDE BREADTH OR SCOPE OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF LAW.

WELL, THE SHERIFF'S DOING THAT SAME THING IN TERMS WITH OUR SHERIFF DEPUTIES.

AND BUT THAT'S A STRONG LEADERSHIP THING.

AND I'M THANKFUL THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE IN LEADERSHIP AND BEING LED BY THE SHERIFF IN THAT WAY TO EQUIP OUR PEOPLE.

AND AND IF SOMEBODY DOES TAKE ANOTHER POSITION, BECAUSE THERE'S MORE MONEY AND THERE'S OTHER OPPORTUNITY, I THINK THAT'S GREAT. BUT I'M SO CONFIDENT IN SO MANY OF THE LEADERSHIP IN OUR DEPARTMENTS OF BEING ABLE TO RAISE UP GREAT LEADERS. I TOURED THE JOANN FABRICS AS WELL AND IT LOOKED ABOUT THE SAME AS WHEN MY DAUGHTER DRAGGED ME THERE WHEN SHE WAS TRYING TO GET AS MUCH STUFF WHEN THEY WERE GOING OUT OF BUSINESS. THERE WAS STUFF KNOCKED OVER EVERYWHERE. IT'S A IT'S A GREAT BUILDING.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THAT ON THE AGENDA. BUT I DID TAKE THAT TOUR AS WELL.

HAD QUITE A FEW MEETINGS WITH DOUG BOND, WHO UNFORTUNATELY.

AND HE WANTED ME TO PERSONALLY ALSO TELL EVERYBODY. HE APOLOGIZED THAT HE COULDN'T BE HERE. HE HAD A FAMILY EMERGENCY.

THAT AND I TOTALLY AGREE.

FAMILY FIRST. HE COULD NOT BE HERE TODAY, BUT HE WILL BE BACK SEPTEMBER 9TH AS OF TENTATIVELY SCHEDULED. NOW.

WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE SHERIFF AND I GOING TO TUCSON TO ANOTHER.

THEY HAVE A 65 ACRE CAMPUS IN TUCSON.

THIS IS, THIS IS OUR OPPORTUNITY.

THIS ALTERNATIVE CUSTODY PROGRAM, I DON'T WANT TO SAY IS ONCE IN A LIFETIME OR ONCE IN A GENERATION, BUT I WILL SAY I BELIEVE FULLY THAT THIS DEAL ABSOLUTELY NEEDS TO GET DONE. WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING IN CLOSED SESSION. AND I WILL SAY, I ENCOURAGE THOSE THAT LISTEN TO THIS BOARD REPORT.

IF YOU DON'T LISTEN TO ANYTHING ELSE, FAST FORWARD TO THE COMMENTS BEFORE CLOSED SESSION, BECAUSE I'LL BE MAKING SOME COMMENTS ABOUT SOME ITEMS ON CLOSED SESSION. BUT AS IT RELATES TO THE ACP PROGRAM, THE ALTERNATIVE CUSTODY PROGRAM.

I BELIEVE WE'RE GOING TO HEAR TODAY THAT WE'RE VERY CLOSE ON SIGNING THAT DEAL, GETTING THAT PROPERTY. BUT THAT'S ONLY JUST THE FIRST STEP. THERE'S A LOT OF WORK TO DO.

WHEN I'VE TALKED WITH PUBLIC WORKS AND OTHERS, THIS ISN'T SOMETHING THAT I WANT TO SEE AYERS TAKE.

I MEAN, I WANT TO I'M ASKING STAFF REQUESTING STAFF TO REALLY PUSH AND GET THIS DONE.

A LOT OF PEOPLE NEED HELP AND THE PEOPLE THAT WE CAN REHAB, I WANT THEM TO HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE IT DOES TWO THINGS. IT GIVES THEM A CHANCE AT A MUCH BETTER LIFE AND TO SO IN THE COMMUNITY IN A POSITIVE WAY.

BUT THEN ALSO IT FREES UP BEDS IN THE JAIL TO INCARCERATE THOSE PEOPLE THAT NEED TO BE THERE AND, AND SHOULDN'T BE WALKING THE STREETS.

SO IT SERVES TWO GREAT PURPOSES.

SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO HIM COMING BACK.

AND AGAIN, I'M ALWAYS GOING TO SAY THANK YOU TO SUPERVISOR PLUMMER FOR MAKING THAT ORIGINAL CONNECTION. THE THE MEDICAL CARE ISSUE.

I HAVE A COUPLE THINGS HERE.

I DID BRING OOPS, SORRY ABOUT THAT.

I DID BRING THE LETTER IN FROM SHARK AND I DID TELL PEOPLE IF THEY WANTED IT THAT I WOULD HAVE IT HERE. SHARK SENT US A LETTER BASICALLY GETTING ON BOARD, KNOWING THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE MAKING SOME GREAT CHANGES.

SO BRANDON THORNOCK, THE CEO, SENT US A LETTER ENCOURAGING THEIR INVOLVEMENT IN THAT. WE'RE KIND OF AT THE BEGINNING, IT WAS, IT'S NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN.

AND THEY GAVE US ALL THE REASONS WHY IT WASN'T.

NOW THEY'RE CHANGING THEIR TUNE AND I'M GRATEFUL FOR THAT. THEY'RE COMING AROUND. AND I THINK EVERYBODY LEANING IN IS WHAT'S REALLY, REALLY NEEDED IN THIS CAPACITY OF WHERE WE ARE.

ANOTHER THING IS TOO, AS IT RELATES TO THE MEDICAL CRISIS THAT WE'RE IN, I HAVE A LETTER HERE THAT I'M GOING TO BE PUTTING ON DISTRICT ONE LETTERHEAD.

AND IT'S NOT THAT I CAN'T SEND IT FROM ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD.

I JUST DIDN'T WANT TO TAKE THE TIME OF PUTTING IT ON THE AGENDA AND THEN HAVING TO VOTE ON IT AND THEN GOING THROUGH THAT PROCESS.

SO I DID HAVE THE VOTE TO BE ABLE TO BE THE SPOKESPERSON, BUT THIS IS JUST A LETTER, AND IT'S IN SUPPORT OF DESIGNATING SHASTA COUNTY AS A MEDICALLY UNDERSERVED AND HEALTH PROFESSIONAL SHORTAGE AREA.

SO DESIGNATING US AS THAT.

AND THERE'S A HUGE LIST OF COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT ARE GOING TO RECEIVE THIS. AND I'M ASKING THEM TO SEND THIS LETTER IN SUPPORT.

I'M GOING TO READ IT TO YOU. IT SAYS, DEAR HEALTH RESOURCES AND SERVICES ADMINISTRATION. SO THIS IS THE ORGANIZATION THAT I'M GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT THESE ARE HAND DELIVERED, ALL THE LETTERS TO CONGRESSMAN LAMALFA,

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AND THEN HE CAN TAKE THESE DIRECTLY TO THE HEALTH RESOURCES AND SERVICES ADMINISTRATION, THE US DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES AS PRINCIPAL. MEDICARE AND MEDICAID PAYER ASSESSES PRIMARY CARE TO POPULATION TO PRIORITIZE UNDERSERVED COMMUNITIES THROUGHOUT THE U.S. THERE ARE GEOGRAPHIC AREAS, SPECIAL POPULATIONS, AND FACILITIES WITH PRIMARY AND SPECIALTY CARE PROVIDERS AND SERVICES SHORTAGE THAT THE HEALTH RESOURCES AND ADMINISTRATION HAVE DESIGNATED AS HEALTH PROFESSIONAL SHORTAGE AREAS AND MEDICALLY UNDERSERVED AREA POPULATION DIGNITY.

MERCY MEDICAL CENTER COMMUNITY HEALTH NEEDS ASSESSMENT.

THIS WAS ADOPTED IN JUNE.

JUNE 27TH OF 2025 REVEALED THAT THE NUMBER OF PRIMARY CARE PHYSICIANS HAD FALLEN FROM 132 32 IN 20 16 TO 50 8 IN 2024.

AND THERE'S FOOTNOTES IN THE LETTER AS A DIRECT RESULT, IN THE 56% DECLINE IN JUST NINE YEARS, THE RATIO OF POPULATION FOR EACH PRIMARY CARE PHYSICIAN HAS FALLEN TO 3542 TO 1.

IT IS EXPECTED THAT THIS DATA, COLLECTED EVERY THREE YEARS, WILL BE CALCULATED AT THE STATE AND COUNTY LEVELS TO COMPLY WITH THE PATIENT PROTECTION AND AFFORDABLE CARE ACT TO IDENTIFY PRIORITIZED DESCRIPTION OF SIGNIFICANT HEALTH NEEDS. THE ENTIRE POPULATION OF SHASTA COUNTY NOW QUALIFIES AS A UNITED STATES HIGH NEED AREA. PLEASE EXPEDITE DESIGNATION OF SHASTA COUNTY AS HEALTH PROFESSIONAL SHORTAGE AREAS AND MEDICALLY UNDERSERVED AREA POPULATION IN SEPTEMBER.

SO IT'S CRITICAL THAT WE GET THESE LETTERS OF SUPPORT, AND WE TURN THESE IN BECAUSE THERE'S TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS THAT OUR COUNTY WILL HAVE ACCESS TO, AND THAT'S PER YEAR.

AND THIS IS WHO'S GOING TO BE GETTING THIS. SO I WANT YOU TO WRITE THESE NAMES DOWN AND MAKE SURE THESE INDIVIDUALS KNOW WHAT'S AT STAKE AND TO SEND US THIS LETTER AND GET ON BOARD. SO HERE'S THE PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO BE RECEIVING THIS. DOUG LAMALFA, UNITED STATES CONGRESS, HEATHER HARDWICK, CALIFORNIA STATE ASSEMBLY. JACK POTTER, CHAIRMAN OF THE REDDING RANCHERIA, JOE CAMPBELL HILL COUNTRY HEALTH AND WELLNESS CENTER. KATRINA CANTRELL, WOMEN'S HEALTH SPECIALIST.

CHRISTY COLEMAN, HHS. TAMMY FRAZIER, SHINGLETOWN MEDICAL CENTER.

MIKE FREEMAN, SKOKIE. SHANNON GEHRIG MOUNTAIN VALLEY HEALTH CENTER.

RYAN HARRIS. MY MAYOR'S MEMORIAL.

SAM ANTHONY, SHASTA REGIONAL MEDICAL CENTER.

DAVE JONES, PARTNERSHIP BOARD COMMISSIONER.

DAVID KEHOE, COMMUNITY MEMBER.

RON REESE, M.D., DERMATOLOGIST.

PATRICK MORIARTY, COMMUNITY MEMBER.

TIM SHARP, PARTNERSHIP, HEALTH PLAN OF CALIFORNIA.

TODD SMITH, MERCY MEDICAL CENTER, BRANDON THORNOCK, SHASTA COMMUNITY HEALTH CENTER, T ABRAHAM HOSPITAL COUNCIL OF NORTHERN AND CENTRAL CALIFORNIA DOCTOR JAMES MU PUBLIC SHASTA PUBLIC HEALTH, ROBERT PAGE, MERCY MEDICAL CENTER, MOUNT SHASTA AND SAINT ELIZABETH.

JUST A FEW MORE. DOCTOR TODD STRUMWASSER COMMONSPIRIT HEALTH'S NORTHERN CALIFORNIA DIVISION. JACK MUNS, MAYOR, CITY OF REDDING.

SUSIE BAUR, MAYOR, CITY OF ANDERSON.

RICK KERN, MAYOR OF CITY OF SHASTA LAKE.

JACQUELINE CLITES, AMERICAN RED CROSS, CALIFORNIA.

GOLD. COUNTRY REGION. JONATHAN ANDERSON, GOOD NEWS. RESCUE MISSION.

ALA. TUCKER SHASTA FAMILY YMCA.

CARRIE CURRENCY. AND I APOLOGIZE IF I BOUGHT SOME OF THESE NAMES.

COMMUNITY FOUNDATION OF THE NORTH STATE. AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST, JOHN MANCASOLA OF THE MECHANICAL MCCONNELL FOUNDATION.

SO EVERYONE'S GOING TO BE RECEIVING THAT LETTER. IT'S IMPERATIVE THAT WE GET THESE BACK, SUBMIT THESE. SO SHASTA COUNTY HAS ACCESS TO LITERALLY TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS AS AN UNDERSERVED MEDICAL COMMUNITY.

WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO CONCLUDE MY REPORT.

LET ME JUST DOUBLE CHECK MAKING SURE I'M STAYING ON.

ALL RIGHT. DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING ELSE? OKAY. GO AHEAD. YEAH. I JUST WANT TO SAY, I MEAN, WITH THE FUNNY CAKE PICTURE AND EVERYTHING, I KIND OF LOST TRACK. I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT WHAT A GREAT PROGRAM THAT WAS.

SO THIS CULINARY TEACHER THAT CAME TO A JUVENILE HALL AND WORKED WITH THESE KIDS.

I MEAN, REALLY GAVE THEM A SENSE OF ACCOMPLISHMENT AND RESPECT.

AND I MEAN, IT WAS IT WAS VERY HEARTWARMING.

SO AT THE END OF THIS PROGRAM, THE KIDS GET A FOOD HANDLING CERTIFICATE AND THEY LEARN SOME IMPORTANT JOB SKILLS.

AND I MEAN, ALL THE KIDS. IT WAS ACTUALLY SEVERAL TEARY MOMENTS IN THE WHOLE THING.

SO IT WAS A, IT WAS REALLY GREAT SEEING THE RESPECT FOR THOSE KIDS AND THEIR, HOW PROUD THEY WERE OF THEIR PROJECT. SO I JUST WANT TO THROW THAT OUT THERE. THANK YOU.

SUPERVISOR. KELSTROM. YOU DO REALIZE SUPERVISOR.

PLUMMER IS GOING TO GO TO 25 MINUTES WITH ME GOING OVER AND YOU GOING OVER.

AWESOME JOB. THANK YOU GUYS. AND IS YOUR SCREEN BACK UP YET, SIR? NO.

ALL RIGHT. SO STILL JUST MAKE SURE YOU FLAG ME.

ALL RIGHT. MOVING ON AGAIN.

R THREE HAS BEEN PULLED.

WE'RE MOVING ON TO R FOUR.

TROY COME ON UP SIR. DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS.

[R4 Receive a presentation from the Department of Public Works and Whitlock and Weinberger Transportation, Inc., regarding the 2025 Shasta County Safety Action Plan.]

THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING CHAIR CRYE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.

TROY BARTOLOMEI DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS.

WE'RE HERE TODAY TO PROVIDE A PRESENTATION ON THE SAFETY ACTION PLAN AND WHAT THIS PLAN IS.

IS IT SOMETHING THAT'S REQUIRED TO MAKE THE COUNTY ELIGIBLE TO RECEIVE GRANTS FOR SPECIFIC TYPES OF SAFETY PROJECTS? WE RECEIVED A GRANT TO PAY FOR THE BULK OF THIS PLAN, AND WE HAVE RETAINED W.

I'M SORRY, I'M GOING TO GO W TRANS W TRANS OUT OF THE BAY AREA THAT'S PREPARING THIS

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PLAN FOR US. AND THEY'RE HERE TODAY TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE OF WHERE THEY'RE AT WITH THE PLAN THUS FAR. A VERY IMPORTANT PART OF THE THEY'RE GOING TO PRESENT TODAY IS A ONLINE PORTAL. THEY'VE AS PART OF OUR PLAN FOR PUBLIC OUTREACH.

SO IT GIVES PEOPLE TO.

AND THEY'RE GOING TO EXPLAIN HOW TO DO THAT, HOW TO LONG, HOW TO LOG ON, HOW TO GET THERE.

SO THERE'S A FEW MONTHS HERE OF PUBLIC OUTREACH WHERE PEOPLE IN THE COUNTY CAN ACTUALLY LOG ON, PINPOINT A PLACE AND PROVIDE THEIR CONCERNS OR THEIR NEEDS OR WHERE THEY THINK THERE'S PROBLEMS IN THE COUNTY.

I FREQUENTLY GET PHONE CALLS WITH SUGGESTIONS FOR TRAFFIC THINGS.

SIGNS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

AND THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR EVERYBODY IN THE COUNTY.

THEY HAVE A CHANCE TO HAVE A VOICE.

WE'RE ALSO, THIS IS ALREADY LIVE AND OUT FOR AVAILABLE FOR PEOPLE TO USE NOW.

AND WE'RE GOING TO USE A LITTLE BIT OF PUBLIC OUTREACH ALSO TO HELP PEOPLE TO FIND WHERE IT IS. SO WITH THAT SAID, I'M GOING TO TURN THE TIME OVER HERE TO BARRY BERGMAN FROM W TRANS, AND HE'S GOING TO GIVE US THE PRESENTATION ON THE PLAN. THERE YOU GO.

OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

PLEASURE TO BE HERE. THANKS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT TO YOU ON THIS PROJECT. I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH THIS RELATIVELY QUICKLY.

JUST A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND HERE.

SO THE COUNTY DID RECEIVE A GRANT FROM CALTRANS TO PREPARE WHAT'S KNOWN AS A LOCAL ROAD SAFETY PLAN. SINCE THAT TIME, THE THE FEDERAL LEVEL USDOT CREATED A SAFETY PROGRAM CALLED SAFE STREETS AND ROADS FOR ALL, OTHERWISE KNOWN AS SS FOUR A, AND ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS TO BE ELIGIBLE FOR THOSE GRANTS IS CALLED A SAFETY ACTION PLAN.

SO THAT HAS SOME MORE SPECIFIED REQUIREMENTS.

AND SO WHAT WE WANTED TO DO WAS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE MEET THE REQUIREMENTS FOR BOTH OF THESE TYPES. THE HIGHWAY SAFETY IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM AND SS FOUR A ARE PROBABLY THE TWO LARGEST SAFETY PROGRAMS WHERE YOU CAN GET FUNDING FOR TO IMPLEMENT PROJECTS.

JUST AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT THE PLAN WILL INCLUDE.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PIECE, WHICH I'M GOING TO TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT. WE'RE GOING TO COME UP WITH A WIDE RANGE OF RECOMMENDATIONS.

ENGINEERING AS WELL AS ENFORCEMENT, EDUCATION, OTHER TYPES OF THINGS.

AND THEN WHEN WE COME TO IDENTIFYING PROJECTS, WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT THINGS LIKE BENEFIT COST RATIOS. AND THAT'S ONE OF THE DETERMINANTS IN HELPING TO GET PROJECT FUNDING.

WE RECENTLY HAD THE FIRST MEETING OF OUR STAKEHOLDER ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

WE PULLED TOGETHER A RANGE OF, REPRESENTATIVES OF DIFFERENT AGENCIES FROM THE COUNTY, FROM THE TRIBES.

CALTRANS SRTA AND SO THE THE INTENT WAS TO HAVE PEOPLE WHO DEAL WITH TRANSPORTATION.

KIND OF MORE ON A PROFESSIONAL LEVEL AND TO GET INPUT FROM THEM AND THEIR COLLEAGUES.

I SHOULD SAY THE, THE SCOPE OF THIS PLAN IS JUST THE UNINCORPORATED AREAS.

SO REDDING, SHASTA, LAKE, ANDERSON, THEY'RE DOING THEIR OWN SAFETY PLANNING EFFORTS. AND SO WHEN WE ARE GOING TO BE COMING UP WITH RECOMMENDATIONS, IT WILL INCLUDE JUST THE UNINCORPORATED AREAS.

IT'S ALSO JUST GOING TO FOCUS ON COUNTY CONTROLLED ROADWAYS.

SO CALTRANS, THE COUNTY DOESN'T HAVE JURISDICTION OVER CALTRANS.

WE ARE GOING TO BE COLLECTING COMMENTS RELATED TO CALTRANS FACILITIES AND PASSING THOSE ALONG, BUT IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BE LISTED AS PART OF THE PRIORITY PROJECTS FOR, FOR THIS PLAN.

I JUST WANTED TO COMMENT ON SOMETHING CALLED VISION ZERO, WHICH IS SORT OF A THEME THAT'S BEEN EMERGING NATIONALLY.

IT'S ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE SAFETY ACTION PLANS IS TO ADOPT A VISION ZERO POLICY. AND IT DOES REPRESENT A BIT OF A SHIFT IN THE WAY THAT SAFETY IS TREATED.

SO I JUST WANT TO COMMENT ON A COUPLE OF THESE THINGS HERE ON THE RIGHT.

HERE IS WHAT VISION ZERO IS THAT THAT FIRST ITEM THERE, TRAFFIC DEATHS ARE PREVENTABLE.

SO IT DOESN'T JUST ASSUME THAT TRAFFIC DEATHS WILL HAPPEN.

THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I THINK GRADUALLY THINGS HAVE BEEN IMPROVING OVER THE DECADES.

BUT BUT THERE'S STILL THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE A YEAR NATIONALLY THAT THAT ARE KILLED IN TRAFFIC CRASHES. IT ALSO ASSUMES THAT PEOPLE WILL MAKE MISTAKES.

WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT TRYING TO DESIGN AND ASSUME THAT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BEHAVE PERFECTLY. SO WE'RE TRYING TO HAVE SOME ROOM TO ALLOW FOR THAT.

AND THEN ALSO IT'S GOING TO BE REALLY A MULTIDISCIPLINARY APPROACH.

SO WE, IT'S INCLUDING ENGINEERS, POLICY MAKERS SUCH AS YOURSELVES AND OTHER AGENCIES THE PUBLIC HEALTH COMMUNITY, LAW ENFORCEMENT AND, AND TECHNOLOGY IS GOING TO BE A PIECE OF THIS AT SOME POINT.

YOU KNOW, THAT'S JUST AN EVOLVING THING.

SO AND THEN NOTICE THE LAST ITEM THERE.

SAVING LIVES IS NOT EXPENSIVE.

I THINK PARTICULARLY IN A PLACE LIKE SHASTA COUNTY WHERE A LOT OF IT'S A RURAL, LOW DENSITY, LOW DENSITY DEVELOPED AREA.

SOME OF THOSE THINGS MAY BE AS SIMPLE AS RESTRIPING A ROADWAY, ADDING GUARDRAILS THAT COULD BE RELATIVELY LOW COST ITEMS THAT CAN MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE. THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, THE JUST TO DESCRIBE WHY WE WENT ABOUT THIS.

WE DECIDED NOT TO TRY TO SCHEDULE PUBLIC MEETINGS.

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SHASTA COUNTY IS A VERY LARGE AREA.

WE HAD A VERY CONSTRAINED BUDGET. WE HAVE A PRETTY TIGHT TIMELINE TO TURN THE GRANT AROUND. AND SO WHAT WE WHAT WE DID IS SOMETHING WE'RE USING IN MOST OF OUR PROJECTS THESE DAYS IS FOCUSING ON ONLINE ENGAGEMENT.

AND SO WE HAVE AN INTERACTIVE WEBSITE.

THE ADVANTAGE OF THIS IS THAT ANYONE CAN ACCESS IT 24 OVER SEVEN.

YOU CAN DO IT ON YOUR PHONE. YOU CAN DO IT ON YOUR COMPUTER.

YOU CAN SPEND FIVE MINUTES ON IT.

YOU CAN SPEND AN HOUR ON IT. IT'S REALLY UP TO YOU.

WE FOUND THAT WE'VE GOTTEN A LOT MORE RESPONSIVENESS THIS WAY.

RATHER THAN HAVING, YOU KNOW, SPENDING ALL THE RESOURCES TO HAVE A DOZEN PEOPLE TURN OUT AT A MEETING. WE CAN GET HUNDREDS OF RESPONSES BY JUST POSTING THIS UP ON THE WEB. SO WE DO WANT TO BE MINDFUL THAT THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY THE EASIEST THING FOR SOME PEOPLE TO ACCESS.

AND SO IF WE FEEL LIKE WE'RE NOT GETTING CERTAIN GROUPS REPRESENTED, THAT'S SOMETHING WE'LL NEED TO THINK ABOUT AND HOW TO TO REACH THOSE PEOPLE. I JUST WANT TO GO THROUGH A FEW DATA POINTS, JUST THE KIND OF COLLISIONS THAT WE'RE SEEING. AND LOOKING AT THE RECORDS, THIS IS SOMETHING WE'RE GOING TO BE DIVING INTO MUCH MORE DEEPLY AS WE GO ALONG WITH THE PROCESS.

SO 85% OF THE COLLISIONS OCCURRED ON ROADWAY SEGMENTS AS OPPOSED TO INTERSECTIONS.

NOT, NOT SO SURPRISING GIVEN THE RURAL NATURE OF THE COUNTY.

COLLISION TYPE. MOST OF THEM ARE CLASSIFIED AS HIT OBJECT, WHICH COULD BE SOMETHING LIKE A GUARDRAIL OR A OR A POLE OR THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND THEN WHEN WE COMBINE, WE LOOK AT HIT OBJECT PLUS OVERTURNED VEHICLES HEAD ON SIDESWIPE.

THESE ARE THINGS THAT ARE THAT ARE CLASSIFIED AS LANE DEPARTURE COLLISIONS.

SO THAT MAKES UP OVER 70% OF THE TOTAL COLLISIONS.

IS THESE LANE DEPARTURE COLLISIONS.

THESE ARE THE TOP SIX COLLISION CATEGORIES MAKING UP 90% OF ALL COLLISIONS.

SO IMPROPER TURNING UNSAFE SPEED DUIS THOSE ARE ARE BY FAR THE BIGGEST.

AND SO WE'RE GOING TO BE KIND OF PUTTING THIS TOGETHER WITH THE PREVIOUS SLIDE AND SEEING TRY TO GET A LITTLE MORE DEFINED PICTURE OF WHAT SOME OF THE CAUSES WERE, SEVERITY OF YOUR INJURY COLLISIONS SEE WITH FATALITIES.

THIS IS FIVE YEARS WORTH OF DATA.

THERE WERE 37 FATALITIES.

SO IT'S A RELATIVELY LOW NUMBER.

BUT IT IS SOMETHING WE WANT TO PRIORITIZE LOOKING AT AND SEVERE INJURIES 190.

THE MORE THAN HALF WERE PROPERTY DAMAGE ONLY.

I WOULD SAY THOSE THOSE 37 FATAL COLLISIONS ALL OCCURRED IN ROADWAY SEGMENTS.

NONE OF THEM OCCURRED AT INTERSECTIONS. SO TO TALK ABOUT THE WEBSITE, THIS IS THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE WHEN YOU GET THERE.

IT GIVES YOU A GENERAL OVERVIEW OF WHAT THE PROJECT IS.

WE HAVE A TIMELINE. WE'RE ALSO THIS YOU CAN'T SEE BELOW THERE, BUT THERE'S A PLACE WHERE WE'RE ASKING PEOPLE TO TO LOOK AT THEIR COUNCIL DISTRICT.

SO WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO MAKE SURE WE'RE GETTING GOOD REPRESENTATION FROM THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY. SO I'LL, I'LL TOUCH ON THAT IN A SECOND AGAIN.

THIS IS THE INTERACTIVE MAP.

THIS IS WHAT IT WILL LOOK LIKE WHEN YOU PULL IT UP. YOU CAN ZOOM IN ON THAT.

SO YOU CAN GET VERY CLOSE TO, YOU KNOW, AND YOU CAN ALSO CHANGE THE BACKGROUND. AND I'LL SHOW YOU AN EXAMPLE OF THAT IN A SECOND. SO YOU CAN LOOK AT IT AS AN AERIAL VIEW. THERE'S A LITTLE BUTTON THAT SAYS ADD MARKER.

YOU'LL GET A MARKER LIKE THAT LITTLE BLUE THING IN THE CENTER, AND THEN THIS WINDOW IS GOING TO POP UP AND IT'S JUST TOTALLY OPEN ENDED.

YOU CAN WRITE ANYTHING YOU WANT ABOUT WHAT YOU SEE AS A CONCERN OR AN IDEA FOR HOW TO IMPROVE THINGS. EMAIL ADDRESS IS PRIVATE.

YOU'RE ALLOWED TO ENTER THAT IF YOU WOULD LIKE. THEN YOU ENTER THAT.

THE OTHER NICE THING ABOUT THIS PLATFORM IS IT GIVES YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT THE COMMENTS THAT OTHER PEOPLE HAVE POSTED. SO IF YOU SEE A BLUE DOT THERE, YOU CAN JUST HOVER OVER IT, CLICK ON IT, AND THEN YOU'LL GET A WINDOW POPPING UP SHOWING THAT PERSON'S COMMENT, AND THEN YOU CAN GIVE IT A THUMBS UP OR A THUMBS DOWN. SO THAT WAY WE CAN GET A LOT MORE INPUT.

AND WE FIND THAT WE OFTEN GET HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE RESPONDING THIS WAY.

IT'S SOMETHING WE COULD EASILY EXPORT AND SUMMARIZE.

WE ALSO HAVE A VERY KIND OF A GENERAL HIGH LEVEL SURVEY JUST TO GET A SENSE OF PEOPLE'S PRIORITIES. SO I'M JUST ASKING PEOPLE TO RANK THINGS 1 TO 5.

IT'S MULTIPLE CHOICE. THIS IS PRETTY QUICK.

AND AGAIN, WE DID ASK PEOPLE WHAT WHAT COUNCIL DISTRICT THEY'RE IN.

SUPERVISOR DISTRICT. AND JUST, JUST SO WE MAKE SURE WE GET REPRESENTATION, WE DON'T WANT TO SEE EVERYONE FROM DISTRICT TWO. AND IF WE KNOW, IF WE SEE THAT KIND OF PATTERN, THEN WE'LL TRY TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO REACH OUT TO PEOPLE ELSEWHERE IN THE COUNTY SO WE CAN GET GOOD REPRESENTATION.

THAT'S THE WEBSITE ADDRESS.

WE'RE GOING TO BE WORKING WITH THE, WITH THE COUNTY TO GET EMAILS CIRCULATED WITH LINKS TO THAT. AND SO I'D LIKE TO ENCOURAGE ANYONE WHO ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TO PARTICIPATE AS A CITY CAN SPEND AS MUCH OR AS LITTLE TIME AS YOU WANT, BUT ALSO FEEL FREE TO FORWARD THIS TO ANYBODY YOU KNOW, OR ANY EMAIL LIST THAT, THAT YOU'RE PART OF.

AND THAT WAY WE CAN GET AS MUCH AS MANY RESPONSES AS POSSIBLE,

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YOU KNOW, AS, AS SOMEONE WHO'S, I'VE HELPED JURISDICTIONS OBTAIN GRANT FUNDING. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY LOOK FOR IS THEY LIKE TO SEE, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE THE DEFINED PRIORITIES.

THESE ARE THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT SUPPORTED IT. AND IT MAKES FOR A REALLY STRONG APPLICATION. IF WE CAN DEMONSTRATE THAT KIND OF THAT KIND OF SUPPORT.

JUST TO OUTLINE THE NEXT STEPS GOING FORWARD. AS I SAID, IT'S A PRETTY QUICK TURNAROUND. WE HAVE THE PRESENTATION TODAY.

WE'RE LOOKING TO DO OUR OUR COLLECT THE INPUT WITHIN PRIMARILY IN THE NEXT MONTH.

AND AND THEN WE'LL COME UP WITH THE PRIORITY PROJECTS, IDENTIFY THE BENEFIT COST RATIOS, FIGURE OUT WHAT THE PRIORITIES ARE.

WE'RE GOING TO BRING IT BACK TO THE STAKEHOLDER ADVISORY COMMITTEE AGAIN AND THEN PUT TOGETHER THE DRAFT PLANNING DOCUMENT AND THEN BRING THAT BACK TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS IN EARLY NEXT YEAR ALONG WITH THE THE VISION ZERO THE VISION ZERO POLICY, WHICH IS, AS I SAID, ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS.

AND SO THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT.

SO IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS OR ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO ADD.

SEEING NONE. THANK YOU SO MUCH, I APPRECIATE IT. THAT WAS THAT WAS VERY THOROUGH, VERY GREAT. SUPERVISOR.

PLUMMER. THANK YOU FOR THAT PRESENTATION.

AND THIS MAY BE A TROY QUESTION, BUT DO WE HAVE ONE OF THESE CURRENTLY OR HAVE WE HAD ONE IN THE PAST? OR WILL THIS BE THE FIRST TIME THAT WE'RE DOING THIS IN SHASTA COUNTY? WHEN DID THIS BECOME A REQUIREMENT? IT WAS ONLY REALLY THE LAST FEW YEARS THAT THIS SO THE, THE, THE STATE, IT WAS FOR THE LAST HIGHWAY SAFETY IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM CYCLE THAT BECAME A MANDATORY THING. AND THEN THEY, SO THIS CALTRANS GAVE OUT GRANTS THROUGHOUT THE STATE. SO HUNDREDS OF COMMUNITIES WERE GETTING THEM. AND SO SHASTA COUNTY WAS ONE OF THOSE. THE SHORT ANSWER IS THIS IS OUR FIRST TIME, BUT THIS IS THE FIRST TIME IT'S BEEN REQUIRED.

AND THEN I THINK WE HAVE TO UPDATE IT EVERY FIVE YEARS.

OKAY. THANK YOU. AND THEN DO WE KNOW KIND OF AT AN OVERALL SUMMARY LEVEL YOU SHARED SOME OF THE DATA ON COLLISIONS AND THAT TYPE OF THING, HOW WE COMPARE IN TERMS OF TRAFFIC SAFETY TO OTHER LIKE COUNTIES IN CALIFORNIA.

IT'S A GOOD QUESTION THERE. THERE IS A WEBSITE FROM THE OFFICE OF TRAFFIC SAFETY THAT RANKS SIMILARLY SIZED COMMUNITIES BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT TO BE COMPARING YOURSELF TO SAN JOSE. AND SO I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT WHAT THAT IS, BUT BUT IT DEPENDS ON WHAT THEY BREAK IT DOWN BY SENIORS, PEDESTRIANS, DRUNK DRIVING, SO YOU CAN RATE IT ON DIFFERENT KINDS OF PARAMETERS. SO SO THAT'S AVAILABLE.

I CAN, I CAN FORWARD THAT INFORMATION IF YOU'RE INTERESTED AND SIMILAR, AND IT MIGHT BE THE SAME ANSWER, BUT WOULD YOU SAY THAT 37 FATALITIES, WHILE THAT NUMBER SEEMS LOW OVER FIVE YEARS, IS THAT RELATIVE TO OUR POPULATION OR THE NUMBER OF DRIVERS WE HAVE? IS THAT A GOOD NUMBER OR IS THAT HIGH? IT'S IT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

I MEAN, THE CONTEXT IS SO DIFFERENT.

YOU KNOW, I'D SAY THE, THE NUMBER OF PEDESTRIAN COLLISIONS IS RELATIVELY LOW HERE. IT'S A MUCH LOWER, DENSER DEVELOPMENT THAN A LOT OF OTHER PLACES. SO IT'S, IT'S ONE OF THOSE IT DEPENDS QUESTIONS.

OKAY. AND THEN LAST QUESTION, I KNOW WITH THE SHASTA REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION AGENCY, A FEW OF US ARE ON THAT BOARD, AND THEY HAVE BEEN WORKING ON A PROJECT AROUND TRAFFIC SAFETY ON THE 273 CORRIDOR SOUTH MARKET STREET. IS THIS GOING TO I KNOW THEY'RE ON THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE, BUT IS THIS GOING TO KIND OF OVERLAP WITH THAT? I KNOW SOME OF THAT IS IN THE CITY OF REDDING.

SOME YOU KNOW, THERE'S DIFFERENT JURISDICTIONS THERE. BUT IN TERMS OF COORDINATION. 273 IS A STATE HIGHWAY.

YEAH, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

THAT'S SOMETHING WE'LL JUST HAVE TO TALK WITH CITY STAFF ABOUT.

YOU KNOW, IF THEY HAVE CERTAIN RECOMMENDATIONS THAT MAYBE SHOULD GET ROLLED OVER TO THIS PLAN, I THINK THAT WOULD BE THAT WOULD THAT WOULD REALLY HELP FOR COORDINATION. OKAY. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE YOU COMING. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO PUBLIC COMMENT. MISS BLANKENSHIP.

[PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD - OPEN TIME]

HOW MANY SPEAKERS DO WE HAVE? CHAIR FOR THIS ITEM? WE DON'T HAVE ANY REQUEST TO SPEAK. OKAY.

FOR OKAY, FOR REGULAR PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THIS ITEM, FOR REGULAR PUBLIC COMMENT. WE HAVE 20.

OKAY, PERFECT. YOU WANT TO CALL THEM UP AND START GETTING THEM IN QUEUE? ABSOLUTELY. ALL RIGHT. IT'LL BE TWO MINUTES PER SPEAKER. IF YOU CAN, PLEASE LINE UP TO MY LEFT.

YOUR RIGHT. FIRST UP, STEVE WOODRUM, FOLLOWED BY THERE WAS NO NAME GIVEN FOLLOWED BY ANOTHER CARD THAT THERE WAS NO NAME GIVEN, FOLLOWED BY ROBIN MAYOR, FOLLOWED BY MARGARET HANSEN. GOOD MORNING.

GOOD MORNING. RECENTLY, JUDGE BAKER VOIDED THE RESORT AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE TRIBE AND THE COUNTY.

TWO YEARS AGO, THE ENTIRE COUNTY LEADERSHIP ADVISED AGAINST THIS AGREEMENT.

THEY ASKED FOR MORE TIME TO STUDY.

HOWEVER, THAT AGREEMENT HAD BEEN DRAWN UP BY SUPERVISOR CRYE,

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WHO INSISTED THE BOARD RUSH INTO A VOTE WITH ONLY FOUR DAYS OF STUDY.

THEY SHOULD HAVE TAKEN MORE TIME.

SUPERVISORS CAN MAKE HONEST MISTAKES.

BUT THIS DEAL STUNK OF DERELICTION OF DUTY AND POSSIBLE CORRUPTION.

UNDER THE LEADERSHIP OF SUPERVISOR CRYE, OUR ELECTIONS OFFICE HAS BEEN ENTRUSTED TO AMATEURS WHO HAVE NEVER CONDUCTED AN ELECTION, AND BASED ON THEIR FOOLISH NOTIONS, THIS BOARD TODAY MIGHT SPEND MORE LIKELY WASTE MILLIONS. REMEMBER THE JUDGE'S CAUTION.

YOU'RE EXPECTED TO EXERCISE DUE DILIGENCE.

STOP WASTING PUBLIC MONEY.

THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME.

NEXT UP WAS SOMEBODY WHO GAVE NO NAME ON THEIR SPEAKER REQUEST.

COME ON UP. YOU'RE IN QUEUE.

SO. YEAH. ARE YOU ROBIN MAYOR? I AM, OKAY. COME ON UP.

SO I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY WHO SAID IT, BUT THE LAST MEETING, IT WAS, SO I. SO IT GOES TO SHOW YOU HAVE TO SHOW UP AND SUIT UP OR YOU WON'T BE IN THE GAME. AND THAT'S A GREAT ATHLETIC ANALOGY, BUT IT'S ONLY AS GOOD AS THE COACH.

I WAS NOT GIVEN NOTICE ABOUT THE FRANCIS BEARD INCIDENT, AND I'M HER VERY FIRST NEIGHBOR.

THIS HAS BEEN ONGOING FOR 20 YEARS.

THE BOARD HAS TREATED IT AS IF IT WAS THE FIRST TIME THAT THIS HAS EVER HAPPENED.

EXCUSE ME. SO. THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR DECADES.

CODE ENFORCEMENT INCIDENTS, NOT TO MENTION THE NUMBER OF 911 PHONE CALLS RANGING FROM DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, DRUG TRAFFICKING, DRUG SALES, MUTUAL COMBAT, A WOMAN HITTING A MAN HITTING A WOMAN WITH A CAR, A MAN THAT WOULD FREQUENTLY GO BY MY HOUSE TO HER HOUSE FOR DRUGS, WIELDING A SIGH AND A MACHETE AROUND MY CHILDREN.

THERE HAS BEEN SEVERAL PEOPLE ARRESTED AT THAT AT THAT RESIDENCE.

ONE WAS A ARGUMENT BETWEEN TWO PEOPLE WHERE A FLARE GUN WAS SHOT AND A FIRE STARTED IN OUR YARD. WE HAVE HAD THE MOST RECENT WAS LIKE SIX MONTHS AGO.

THERE WAS A MAN EVADING POLICE.

HE RACED INTO HER YARD, DITCHED THE CARD, HID ON THE PROPERTY.

HE'S A REGULAR OCCUPANT AT THIS ADDRESS.

IT WASN'T UNTIL K-9 CAME AND ARRESTED HIM.

FRANKIE STATED SHE GAVE UP A GOOD, GOOD JOB TO TAKE CARE OF HER PARENTS, EXCEPT FOR HER ARREST AND CRIMINAL ACTIVITY.

IN 1995, SHE WAS ARRESTED FOR POSSESSION OF A CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE.

A PLACE TO KEEP CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE.

TRANSPORT. CELL. CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE AND INJECTING SMOKING DEVICES.

THIS IS CLEARLY BEEN A DRUG HOUSE FOR THE LAST 20 YEARS.

WE'VE HAD CODE ENFORCEMENT IN 2017.

I PUT IN FOR A SEPTIC TANK ISSUE.

IT WAS FOUND THAT SHE WAS TRENCHING FECES INTO MY YARD.

THEY TOLD HER TO FIX IT.

MARGARET HANSON, FOLLOWED BY LORI BRIDGFORD.

THEN CHRISTIAN GARNIER, FOLLOWED BY NICK GARDNER.

IF I CALLED YOUR NAME, PLEASE GET IN QUEUE. WELL, GOOD MORNING, AND I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR DOING YOUR YOUR DUE DILIGENCE WITH YOUR JOBS.

A COUPLE OF THINGS I'M GOING TO TAKE UP WHERE SHE LEFT OFF ON THIS PROPERTY ISSUE BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE THERE WAS A LOT OF THE LOWERING OF A PRICE WHEN THIS PERSON HAD BEEN AN ISSUE FOR A LONG TIME.

MY PHOTOGRAPHY INSTRUCTOR TOLD ME THERE MAY BE A REASON, BUT THERE'S NO EXCUSE FOR THAT KIND OF BEHAVIOR OR FOR NOT TAKING THE RIGHT PICTURE.

ANY OF THOSE THINGS. BUT I'VE USED THAT QUITE OFTEN.

THERE MAY BE A REASON, BUT THERE'S NO EXCUSE.

AND TO LOWER THEIR FEES.

YES, THEY DID CLEAN UP THE PROPERTY, BUT ONLY BECAUSE IT WAS DEMANDED AND THEY WERE GOING TO LOSE IT.

OTHER PIECE THE TRIBE AND THE COUNTY'S AGREEMENT SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN I'LL PUT IT THIS WAY. THEY GOT FREE SERVICE FOR 20 YEARS.

AND THEN YOU MAKE A DEAL TO WHERE YOU GET PAID AND THEY HAVE TO COME UP WITH STUFF.

AND NOW WHO KNOWS WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.

SO I HOPE YOU TAKE THAT UP AGAIN AND AND START WORKING WITH THAT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. LORI BRIDGFORD, FOLLOWED BY CHRISTIAN GARDNER, THEN NICK GARDNER, THEN TERESA.

GOOD MORNING, CHAIRMAN BOARD. LORI BRIDGFORD, I'M IN DISTRICT FOUR AND I WAS GOING TO COMMENT ON SUPERVISOR PLUMMER AND HIS NEW WAY

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TO COMMUNICATE ON A REGULAR BASIS.

I APPRECIATE THAT I PRINTED IT OUT AND IT'S CALLED SHASTA RISING.

SO IT'S ABOUT PODCASTS AND OTHER WAYS TO KIND OF KEEP PEOPLE INFORMED OF WHAT'S GOING ON BECAUSE WE CAN'T MAKE MEETINGS ALL THE TIME.

SO I APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU TO THE SHERIFF BACK THERE.

AND HIS ENTIRE DEPARTMENT ON THE CARTEL, MARIJUANA DRUG BUSTS, RAIDS, THE GUN CONFISCATION, EVERYTHING THAT GOES WITH IT.

I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY DO THEIR JOB, BUT I APPRECIATE VERY MUCH WHAT THEY'RE DOING FOR OUR COMMUNITY. I WANTED TO SHARE THAT KEEPING IN MIND WITH SAFETY, THE LAND LINES ARE GOING TO BE UP ON A B FOUR, SEVEN ZERO IF YOU WANT TO OPPOSE THAT AND NOT BE JUST ONLY CELL PHONES ONLY BECAUSE WE KNOW WHAT CAN HAPPEN. THE POWER CAN GO OFF, THE GRID, CAN GO DOWN, AND THAT'S NOT SAFE FOR ANYBODY.

SO IF PEOPLE WANT TO OPPOSE THAT, THEY CAN CALL AREA CODE (916) 651-4101, AND THAT'S THROUGH THE SENATE APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE. WE HAVE TO ALL PAY ATTENTION.

THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS, A LOT OF MOVING PARTS.

IT'S NOT JUST WHAT MAY START HERE, THE BOARD MEETING, BUT IT HAS A BIG IMPACT ON US.

REGARDING ELECTION COMMISSION MEETING. I WISH WE COULD GET AWAY FROM THE FEELING OF IT'S A PASSIVE AGGRESSIVE. WILL IT EVER GO ON THE AGENDA OR NOT? I'D LIKE TO KIND OF GET CLEAR ON THAT, AS WELL AS SOME OF THE OTHER INDIVIDUALS AS WE'RE DOING PETITION GATHERING THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY.

PALO CEDRO. AWESOME. THANK YOU.

CLINT CURTIS. LAST THURSDAY NIGHT, HE WAS IN ATTENDANCE TO THE SHASTA COUNTY REPUBLICAN ASSEMBLY, DID ABOUT AN HOUR, HOUR AND A HALF, LOTS OF GOOD INFORMATION.

I NOW UNDERSTAND THAT BRANT TURNER, THE DEPUTY NEW PERSON OVER THERE, HAS BEEN GOING TO SACRAMENTO ON, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH OF A REGULAR BASIS, BUT GOING THERE LIVE TO GET STRAIGHT AND NOT JUST BE TOSSED AROUND AND ALL THE OTHER THINGS THAT HAPPEN IN OUR COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU. CHRISTIAN GARDNER, FOLLOWED BY NICK GARDNER.

THEN THERESA, FOLLOWED BY LESLIE SAWYER.

IF WE CAN GET IN QUEUE, THAT'D BE GREAT. OKAY.

NEXT UP, NICK GARDNER, FOLLOWED BY THERESA, THEN LESLIE SAWYER.

PASS. CHRISTIAN, ARE YOU COMING UP? YES. OKAY. I WAS JUST WAITING FOR THE OTHER SPEAKER TO PASS.

I WANT TO REMIND THE BOARD, THE CEO RECORD THAT ANY LETTER THAT COMES TO YOU, IT BELONGS TO THE PEOPLE, MUST BE DOCUMENTED AND RETAINED UNDER LAW.

PLEASE DO SO. I WOULD ALSO ADVISE THAT ALL LETTERS BECOME IMMEDIATELY TRANSPARENT SOMEHOW NOT TOO SURE HOW THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.

THE THE ISSUE QUIRKY ABOUT HERE'S THE DEAL.

WHEN YOU SIGNED UP, YOU BECAME A POLITICAL ENTITY.

AND LIKE IT OR NOT, YOU ARE.

ANYTHING YOU DO HAS POLITICAL RAMIFICATIONS, SO PLEASE BE AWARE OF THAT.

I WANT TO THANK MR. CRYE FOR POINTING OUT THE NEED FOR THAT LETTER TO I'M NOT TOO SURE WHERE THAT'S GOING, BUT IF IT'S GOING TO.

DOUG, WELL, IT'S GOING TO A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVING SPOKE WITH DOUG LEMOV HIS OFFICE THE OTHER DAY IT'S GOING TO TAKE A LOT OF PUSHING TO GET THAT REINSTATED BECAUSE AS MATT POINTED OUT, WE'RE GOING TO GET HIT WITH A TSUNAMI.

IT'S HUGE. 57% OF THIS COUNTY ARE ON MEDICAID.

THAT'S HUGE. THREE HOSPITALS, ACTUALLY SEVEN IDENTIFIED HOSPITALS WITHIN OUR DISTRICT STAND TO EITHER CLOSE OR GREATLY BE REDUCED IN SERVICES.

THIS IS HUGE. THIS IS WHAT THE BIG, BEAUTIFUL BILL HAS BROUGHT US.

WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT. IT'S HERE.

SO PLEASE CONTINUE YOUR WORK, MR. PLUMMER. IT'S VERY, VERY IMPORTANT.

IF YOU'RE NOT DOING IT.

I DON'T KNOW WHO IS. THANK YOU, MISS BLENKINSOP.

JUST TO CLARIFY ALL LETTERS YOU WANT TO EXPLAIN TO PEOPLE.

BECAUSE ANYTIME SOMEONE MAKES A COMMENT ABOUT ONE OF US FIVE, I'M FINE WITH THAT. AND WE ROLL WITH THAT.

BUT IF THEY'RE GOING TO ATTACK STAFF, YOU GUYS AREN'T ABLE TO PUSH BACK. SO YOU MAKE SURE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHEN LETTERS COME IN WHERE THAT GOES. JUST TO CLARIFY FOR PEOPLE. SURE. SO THOSE ARE CONSIDERED CORRESPONDENCE AND THEY ARE INCLUDED IN THE MEETING FILE AT THE TIME THAT THEY'RE RECEIVED AND THEY ARE DISTRIBUTED AS CORRESPONDENCE AND THEY'RE AVAILABLE FOR PUBLIC INSPECTION UPON REQUEST. YEAH. AND THEY'RE ONLINE AND THEY'RE EASILY FOUND. BUT OFTENTIMES PEOPLE THAT DON'T WANT TO FIND THEM CHOOSE NOT TO. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER.

WELL DONE. THANK YOU. NEXT UP, THERESA, FOLLOWED BY LESLIE SAWYER, THEN STEVE KHAN, FOLLOWED BY SUSAN WEISS.

BOARD GOT A FEW THINGS.

WHEN YOU START LOOKING AT THE HEALTH OF THE COUNTY, THERE'S A REASON WHY THERE ARE SO MANY PEOPLE THAT ARE SICK IN THE JAILS, AND HOW MEDI-CAL IS LIKE, BEEN OVERBLOWN DUE TO ALL THE ILLEGALS THAT GET FREE HEALTH CARE, AND THEN OBAMACARE ON TOP OF THAT, WHICH HAS KNOCKED OUT THE MAJORITY OF THE INSURANCES THAT WE COULD ACTUALLY AFFORD.

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SO THAT WOULD BE THAT ONE THERE.

AND THEN, CORKY, GET YOUR PEOPLE IN TOUCH WITH WITH PEOPLE WHO BREED CAUCASIAN SHEPHERDS. THEY WILL PROTECT THE HERDS FROM THE WOLVES.

I'D ALSO LIKE, AS THERE'S A BOARD MEMBER HERE WHO KNOWS, I'D LOVE TO SEE SOME GUARDRAILS WHERE PEOPLE THINK THAT THEY ACTUALLY HAVE THE RIGHT TO DUMP DUMP TRUCK LOADS OF GARBAGE OFF THE SIDES OF THE ROAD.

TOOK US FOUR HOURS TO CLEAN UP A TON OF 1,500 POUNDS OF GARBAGE THAT WAS DUMPED IN A WATERWAY. SO I DON'T KNOW HOW WE CAN GO ABOUT THAT, BUT IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE SOMETHING TO WHERE IT WOULD STOP THESE PEOPLE FROM JUST STOPPING ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD AND DUMPING. THAT'D BE GREAT.

ANOTHER THING I THINK NEEDS TO BE DONE IS SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TEACH THESE PEOPLE HERE HOW TO DO A ROUNDABOUT. BECAUSE PEOPLE HERE IN THIS COUNTY DON'T KNOW HOW TO DRIVE.

AND I THINK THAT'S ABOUT IT.

THANKS FOR THE GREAT JOB YOU GUYS ARE DOING. THANK YOU.

LESLIE SAWYER FOLLOWED BY STEVE CONN, SUSAN WEISS, AND THEN DOLORES LUCERO.

TERESA, I COULD TEXT YOU, BUT IN CASE ANYBODY ELSE NEEDS TO KNOW, IF YOU GO ON THAT INTERACTIVE MAP THAT TROY BARTOLOMEI PUT OUT, YOU CAN PIN THAT AND MAKE A MESSAGE.

I PLAYED WITH THAT INTERACTIVE MAP. IT'S PRETTY COOL. I ALSO TOOK THE SURVEY.

PLUMMER. I LOVE YOUR SIGNATURE ON YOUR EMAILS WHERE IT INCLUDES.

IF YOU SEE A VETERAN HOMELESS, THIS IS WHO YOU CONTACT.

THIS IS WHAT YOU DO. THANK YOU FOR THAT BECAUSE I KNOW YOUR EMAIL GOES OUT TO SO MANY PEOPLE, AND THAT JUST PUTS THAT INFORMATION IN THE HANDS OF PEOPLE WHO ARE DRIVING AROUND AND SEE IT. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.

SIDE NOTE THE ONE BIG BEAUTIFUL BILL ACTS WILL REMOVE THE PEOPLE FROM IT THAT ARE GETTING SERVICES, WHO SHOULD NOT BE GETTING SERVICES AND CAN WORK, THOSE WHO CANNOT WORK AND WHO NEED THOSE SERVICES WILL STILL QUALIFY FOR THOSE SERVICES. SO IN THE MONEY WE SAVE NOT GIVING IT TO PEOPLE WHO HAVE NO RIGHT GETTING IT, WE CAN MAKE UP THE DIFFERENCE THERE.

SO HOPEFULLY THAT KIND OF ADDRESSES THAT.

MONDAY AND TUESDAY I WILL BE AT THE CAPITOL.

MONDAY AB 84 IS BEING HEARD.

THAT IS THE BILL FOR CHARTER SCHOOLS.

AND TUESDAY THEY ARE DOING A HUGE EVENT IN RESPONSE TO AB 405, WHICH IS ONE OF THE MOST DANGEROUS PIECES OF LEGISLATION TO EVER COME ACROSS.

TO THOSE WHO SAY THAT IT'S SIMPLY NOT WHAT IT'S BEING PUT OUT TO BE.

ONE OF MY NEAR AND DEAR FRIENDS ACTUALLY TESTIFIED AGAINST THAT BILL TWICE.

NEXT TO HER WAS AN ATTORNEY WHO VOLUNTEERED TO, FOR FREE. CLOSE THOSE LOOPHOLES AND THEY DIDN'T WANT TO.

IT IS NEFARIOUS ON PURPOSE.

SO IF ANYBODY WANTS TO COME OR WANTS TO WRITE A LETTER, I WILL HAND DELIVER THOSE.

AND THEN I WANT TO THANK TERESSA AUDETTE FOR WHAT SHE'S DOING TO EXPOSE THINGS AND BRING INFORMATION OUT TO THE PUBLIC. AND PEOPLE NEED TO START PAYING ATTENTION TO THE CITY OF REDDING AS MUCH AS THEY'RE PAYING ATTENTION HERE. THANK YOU.

STEVE KHAN, FOLLOWED BY SUSAN WEISS.

WEISS, THEN DOLORES LUCERO, FOLLOWED BY MIKE HERNANDEZ.

GOOD MORNING, BOARD STAFF.

COMMUNITY MEMBERS. I WAS GOING TO COMMENT ON BEHAVIOR OF A COUPLE OF THE COUNCIL OR THE BOARD MEMBERS SNICKERING AND LAUGHING AND WHATEVER AT PEOPLE MAKING PUBLIC COMMENT.

BUT I'M GOING TO SKIP THAT FOR NOW.

I'M GOING TO GO TO A NATIONAL SITUATION, WHICH I USUALLY DON'T DISCUSS.

BUT WHEN I JOINED THE ARMY IN EARLY 1972, I ENDED UP SPENDING TIME IN ADVANCED TRAINING IN FORT BELVOIR, VIRGINIA, AND LIVED ON THE ECONOMY IN VIRGINIA.

AND I WAS EMBARRASSED THAT WE HAD A PLACE LIKE DC THAT EVEN EXISTED AND EXISTED JUST BLOCKS FROM OUR CAPITAL.

IT'S BEEN THAT WAY AT LEAST SINCE THEN, AND PROBABLY FOREVER.

SO MAKING AN IMPACT AND CORRECTING THAT AREA, AND THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH POLITICAL OR ANYTHING ELSE.

I'M JUST STATING MY EXPERIENCE, BUT TO ALLOW THAT PLACE TO EXIST AS IT HAS EXISTED ALL THIS TIME IS HORRIBLE, AND IT SHOULD NEVER HAVE HAPPENED IN THE UNITED STATES. SO FOR THEM TO IMPROVE AND CLEAN UP THAT AREA IS A NECESSITY.

I MEAN, WE WERE WARNED WHEN WE FIRST SHOWED UP FOR A TEE THAT IF WE WENT IN CERTAIN AREAS, WE MAY NOT SURVIVE.

WE MAY NOT GET OUT OF THERE ALIVE.

IT'S THAT BAD. IT WAS THE FIRST TIME, ME BEING IN A NAIVE 17 YEAR OLD,

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WALKING ON THE STREETS WITH MY WIFE AND CHILD, THAT YOU WOULD WATCH OTHER PEOPLE JUST LOOK DOWN WHEN FEAR AND NOT EVEN WANT TO MAKE EYE CONTACT. THAT'S WHAT THAT PLACE IS.

SO YEAH, IT'S LONG OVERDUE.

AND I'M, I'M PROUD TO SEE THAT WE'RE DOING SOMETHING ABOUT IT.

SUSAN WEISS, THANK YOU BY DOLORES LUCERO.

THEN MIKE HERNANDEZ, FOLLOWED BY DON DUCKETT.

I HAVE KIND OF A SOLID LIST HERE.

FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO SAY I REALLY ENJOY THE BEST TIME OF THE MEETING IS YOUR EMPLOYEE OF THE MONTH. IT MAKES ME FEEL GOOD.

IT'S GOOD TO SMILE AND BE HAPPY FOR PEOPLE AND HEAR GOOD THOUGHTS.

SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.

I WANT TO REALLY SUPPORT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

SUPERVISOR. CRYE ABOUT THE COMMUNITY PROGRAM THAT THE SHERIFF IS WORKING ON THAT IS VERY EXCITING. AND I THINK WE NEED TO FOCUS ON THAT STRONGLY AND SAVE THE MONEY THAT MIGHT BE SPENT IN THIS MEETING FOR THAT PURPOSE.

WE'RE SHORT ON FUNDS, OBVIOUSLY, AND WE WILL BE MORE, AS YOU POINTED OUT. SO I HOPE YOU WILL TARGET WHAT YOU NEED TO GET DONE.

THE OTHER THING I WANT TO SAY IS, MATT, THANK YOU FOR THE WORK YOU'VE DONE ON THE HOMELESS AND THE INFORMATION YOU'RE GIVING OUT TO ALL OF US.

AND I KNOW THAT WORKING ON THE VETERANS AND SLOWLY CHIPPING AWAY IS THE WAY IT HAS TO BE DONE. BUT YOU'RE DOING A GREAT JOB, AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.

I DO WANT TO MENTION THAT I WAS DISAPPOINTED AND YOU CAN TELL ME IF I'M MISSING SOMETHING THAT THE LIBRARY CLOSED DOWN TO DO WORK ON THEIR CARPETS AND AND WORK IN THE SUMMER WHEN IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE ONE OF THE COOLING AREAS FOR THE HEAT FOR THE HOMELESS.

AND I'M DISAPPOINTED THAT IT HAPPENED DURING THE SUMMER.

AND I'VE NOT SEEN ANYTHING THAT SAYS WHAT'S REPLACING IT.

AND YOU CAN SEE HUGE, HUGE GROUPS OF HOMELESS SITTING IN SHADE ALL OVER THE PLACE TRYING TO SURVIVE 105 106 TEMPERATURE.

AND I WANT TO KNOW, HAS DOCTOR MU DONE SOMETHING ABOUT SETTING UP OTHER PLACES? AND SURELY THE LIBRARY SHOULD HAVE DONE THAT DURING THE WINTER MONTHS.

I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THAT. AND I'D LIKE EACH OF YOU TO LOOK INTO WHAT HAS WHAT HAS HE'S DONE TO REPLACE THAT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, DOLORES LUCERO, FOLLOWED BY MIKE HERNANDEZ, DON DUCKETT, THEN JENNY.

MR. LONG, I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO HOPEFULLY YOU REMOVE C 11.

IT'S ACTUALLY A VIOLATION FOR THE BOARD TO PUT RENEW THE CONTRACT OF THE LEGAL COUNSEL UNDER CONSENT ITEM. THAT'S NOT LEGAL.

JUST SO YOU KNOW THAT I'VE ACTUALLY BEEN WORKING ON THE SHASTA COUNTY PUBLIC OFFICIALS FOR A LONG TIME. WE KNOW THERE'S CORRUPTION.

WE KNOW THAT THESE OFFICIALS AREN'T GOING TO LISTEN.

WE NEED TO GO ABOVE HIGHER THAN THEM, AND WE HAVE TO GO OUT OF THE BOX.

WE NEED TO EXPOSE THESE PEOPLE.

WE CAN'T KEEP ON COMING HERE DAY AFTER TIME.

EVERY TIME WE COME HERE FOR EVERY MEETING, MR. KEVIN CRYE AND HIS LITTLE GROUPS OF PEOPLE HERE ALWAYS TRYING TO SHUT US DOWN AND ALWAYS TO RETALIATE AND MAKE STUPID COMMENTS AFTER WE GET UP HERE AND MAKE OUR COMMENTS.

DID YOU KNOW IT'S NOT LEGAL FOR HIM HIM TO ACTUALLY REBUTTAL UNDER PUBLIC COMMENT? IT'S A VIOLATION. SO I ACTUALLY BEEN WORKING ON THIS CASE FOR A LONG TIME.

I'M NOT GOING TO TELL YOU WHAT AGENCY I REPORTED THIS.

AND ACTUALLY IT'S GONE ALREADY.

AND IT'S IN THE OFFICE OF CERTAIN AGENCY.

I'M I ACTUALLY I'LL PUT A SUBJECT INTRODUCTION TO CONSOLIDATE CASE, A FORMAL REQUEST FOR CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION INTO A PUBLIC CORRUPTION CONFLICT OF INTEREST. 1090 MISUSE OF PUBLIC FUNDS AND CIVIL RIGHTS VIOLATION BY SHASTA COUNTY OFFICIALS, INCLUDING POTENTIAL VIOLATION OF 18 U.S.C.

(201) 666-1346 AND CONSIDERATION OF FEDERAL GRAND JURY ACTION FOR THE PUBLIC CORRUPTION THAT HAS BEEN GOING ON IN HERE.

SO THIS IS WHAT I'VE BEEN WORKING ON TO GET.

MAKE SURE THAT SOMEBODY COMES AND TAKE MAKES THESE PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE FOR WHAT THEY'VE DONE TO US. THANK YOU.

MIKE HERNANDEZ FOLLOWED BY DON DUCKETT, THEN JENNY, FOLLOWED BY ANTONIA. AND THAT'S INCLUDING.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. HAVE A GOOD DAY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. YOUR TIME IS UP.

GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS MIKE HERNANDEZ WITH KELLY.

READ NEWS. I NORMALLY COVER THE SHASTA COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND DO NOT MAKE PUBLIC

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COMMENTS, BUT I WOULD LIKE CHESTER COUNTY TO BE KNOWN FOR MORE THAN JUST ELECTION NEWS.

SO I'M APPROACHING YOU TODAY.

JUST LIKE LESLIE SAWYER MOUNTAIN TOP MEDIA DID, TO MAKE YOUR VOICE HEARD ABOUT AND USE YOUR INFLUENCE TO STOP AB 495 FROM MOVING FORWARD.

ON AUGUST 18TH IN THE STATE SENATE APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE HEARING, THE BILL AUTHORED BY ASSEMBLYWOMAN CELESTE RODRIGUEZ, DEMOCRAT, 43, FROM SAN FERNANDO, HAS SIX COAUTHORS.

IT'S TITLED FAMILY PREPAREDNESS PLAN ACT OF 2025, BUT OPPONENTS ARE CALLING IT THE CALIFORNIA LEGISLATURE TRAFFICKING BILL.

I'M ASKING YOU TO SEND EMAILS, MAKE CALLS TO THE BILL'S AUTHOR, THE SIX COAUTHORS, LET YOUR VOICE BE HEARD BY THE TWO LAW FIRMS AND THE THREE CHRISTIAN MINISTRIES THAT ARE SPEAKING LOUDLY AGAINST THIS MEASURE.

AND IF I CAN, I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE YOU A FOLDER WITH THE STORY I WROTE ABOUT THIS BILL THAT ALSO LISTS PHONE NUMBERS AND EMAILS THAT YOU CAN USE.

I THANK YOU FOR YOUR ASSISTANCE IN THIS MATTER.

I APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE TO SHASTA COUNTY, AND FEEL FREE TO CONTACT ME ABOUT ANY ITEMS YOU WISH TO SHARE. FOR POSTING AND KELLY READ NAMES.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND THEN PLEASE LEAVE THOSE FOLDERS WITH THE CLERK.

WITH THE MISS ANGEL RIGHT THERE.

THANK YOU. NEXT UP, DON DUCKETT, FOLLOWED BY JENNY, THEN ANTONIA, FOLLOWED BY BENJAMIN.

DWAYNE. WELCOME. GOOD MORNING BOARD.

I WANTED TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE LETTER FROM THE ATTORNEY GENERAL FROM BACK IN MARCH. REGARDING JUST A LITTLE WARNING THAT THE SECOND AMENDMENT RESOLUTION THAT WAS PASSED LAST YEAR MAY BE IN CONFLICT WITH STATE LAW.

THERE WAS A LITTLE CONFUSION IN THE COMMUNITY ACCUSING THE COUNTY OR CHAIR, CRYE OR STAFF OF BURYING THAT LETTER.

SO I JUST WANTED TO THANK CHAIR CRYE FOR HAVING A CONVERSATION WITH ME AND STEPHANIE.

IT TURNS OUT THAT POLICY WAS FOLLOWED, AND REALLY, WE AS THE PUBLIC AND THE MEDIA WERE ASLEEP AT THE WHEEL.

SO I WANT TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE CONTENTS OF THAT LETTER.

AND REALLY, IF ANY SHOTS ARE GOING TO BE FIRED HERE, IT REALLY NEEDS TO BE TOWARDS COUNTY COUNCIL AND THE CEO'S OFFICE BECAUSE WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT THEY ARE PROTECTING THE COUNTY FROM LIABILITY AND SOME OF THE DECISIONS BEING MADE BY THE BOARD. SO ELECTED OFFICIALS CYCLE IN AND OUT EVERY 4 TO 8 YEARS.

BUT GENTLEMEN, THIS IS YOUR CAREER TO THE CAO AND COUNTY COUNCIL.

IT IS YOUR YOU HAVE A HIGHER FIDUCIARY DUTY TO THE PEOPLE OF THIS COUNTY TO PROTECT US FROM RISK AND LIABILITY.

PLEASE, PLEASE BRING BACK THAT RESOLUTION SO THAT WE CAN EXAMINE IT FOR LEGALITY RISK, OR PERHAPS RESCIND IT ALTOGETHER, OR AT LEAST EXCLUDE THE ELECTIONS OFFICE AS TO WHERE YOU CAN CARRY A CONCEALED WEAPON.

IT'S REALLY THE TAXPAYERS THAT ARE PICKING UP THE BILL WHEN THESE THINGS GO AWRY.

WE ARE PAYING YOUR SALARIES, YOUR SALARIES, AND THE TAXPAYERS ARE ALSO PICKING UP THE TAB FOR THE A G TO BABYSIT THIS COUNTY CONSTANTLY.

SO PLEASE DO YOUR JOBS AND BRING THAT BACK.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. JENNY FOLLOWED BY ANTONIA, FOLLOWED BY BENJAMIN NGUYEN, THEN DAVID HALLIGAN.

JENNY SAID SHE'S PASSING.

OKAY. AND IF I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE GET IN QUEUE. FIRST UP, ANTONIA, FOLLOWED BY BENJAMIN WAYNE, DAVID HALLIGAN, THEN LAURA HOBBS. MORNING BOARD.

WELL, I DISAPPROVE OF THE RENEWAL OF JOE LARMER, THE COUNCIL OF SHASTA COUNTY.

AT THIS TIME. HE HAS SUED THE CITIZENS OF SHASTA COUNTY AND DOES NOT HAVE THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CITIZENS.

AND HE IS MR LED THE BOARD.

SO. NO, NO, NO. THANK YOU.

NEXT UP, BENJAMIN NGUYEN, FOLLOWED BY DAVID HALLIGAN, THEN LAURA HOBBS. SO LOOKING AT TODAY'S AGENDA, THE BOARD IS ABOUT TO MAKE SEVERAL MAJOR DECISIONS THAT I BELIEVE ARE JUST GOING TO CAUSE MORE DIVISION IN THIS COUNTY. C 11 RENEWS COUNTY COUNCIL JOSEPH LAMAR'S CONTRACT FOR FOUR YEARS. THIS IS THE SAME COUNCIL TIED TO LEGAL ACTIONS AND DECISIONS THAT HAVE DAMAGED PUBLIC TRUST ON PRETTY MUCH ALL POLITICAL SIDES.

PUTTING THIS ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR INSTEAD OF OPEN DISCUSSION LOOKS LIKE A WAY JUST TO SQUEEZE JUST ANOTHER THING IN WITHOUT COMMUNITY OVERSIGHT.

THANK YOU. SUPERVISOR LONG FOR PUTTING THIS IN FOR DISCUSSION.

OUR SEVEN APPOINTS CHRISTY COLEMAN AS THE PERMANENT HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES DIRECTOR.

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I'D LIKE TO REMIND EVERYBODY THAT MORE THAN 70% OF THOSE POLLED IN THE AGENCY SAID THAT THEY HAVE NO CONFIDENCE IN HER LEADERSHIP.

SO MOVING FORWARD ANYWAYS, TELLS EMPLOYEES THAT AND THE PUBLIC THAT THEIR INPUT DOESN'T MATTER. OUR EIGHT PROPOSES SPENDING OVER 2.5 MILLION TO MOVE THE ELECTIONS OFFICE TO THE OLD JO-ANN FABRICS BUILDING NOW. TRANSPARENCY IS IMPORTANT, BUT A LARGE UNNECESSARY EXPENSE WHEN PUBLIC SAFETY IS MORE URGENT.

SO USING MONEY SET ASIDE FOR THE JAIL TO FUND IT RAISES EVEN MORE CONCERNS.

ALSO, THE COURT RULED IN THE COURT RULED THAT THE BOARD'S JULY 2023 DEAL WITH THE REDDING RANCHERIA DEAL WAS ILLEGAL.

THAT HAPPENED BECAUSE THE BOARD BYPASSED PROPER PROCESSES AND EXCLUDED KEY STAKEHOLDERS. IT'S POOR JUDGMENT AND EVEN MORE SO, IT WAS UNLAWFUL. SO TAKEN TOGETHER, THESE ITEMS SHOW A BOARD MAKING EXPENSIVE LONG TERM DECISIONS WITHOUT PUBLIC TRUST, WITHOUT INTERNAL SUPPORT, AND WITHOUT FOLLOWING PROPER PROCESSES.

AND THAT NEEDS TO CHANGE.

THANK YOU. DAVID HALLIGAN, FOLLOWED BY LAURA HOBBS AND LAURA HOBBS, WILL BE OUR LAST SPEAKER. GOOD MORNING BOARD.

JUST WANT TO FOLLOW UP ON CHRISTIAN AND DAWN ON HER COMMENTS ABOUT THE SB TWO.

THE THING TO ME THAT WAS INTERESTING, THE BOARD UP HERE DID A RESOLUTION THE FIRST WEEK OF JANUARY AND BASICALLY SAID, WE'RE NOT GOING TO FOLLOW SB TWO.

WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK TO PRE 2024.

DECEMBER 31ST AND WE'LL FOLLOW IT THAT WAY.

I THINK WHEN YOU DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND THEN YOU GET SOMETHING IN AND YOU DID GET IT IN FROM THE ASSISTANT ATTORNEY GENERAL, AND IT WAS KIND OF WEIRD BECAUSE IT CAME IN EMAIL TO ALL THE SUPERVISORS.

AND IT CAME IN ON MARCH 1ST, WHICH THE ELECTION WAS MARCH 5TH.

AND WHAT, WHAT MISS JOHNSON WAS REFERRING TO IS LIKE, HEY, YOU GOT AN ELECTION COMING UP. MAKE SURE EVERYBODY KNOWS THE RULES AND THE LAWS REGARDING POLLING STATIONS.

THAT WAS ONE THING. MAYBE WE COULD HAVE PUT OUT A RELEASE ABOUT KEVIN.

YOU LIKE TO SAY PEOPLE GO VOTE.

WELL, WE COULD HAVE DONE THAT AND THEN PUT THE THE RULES OUT AS WELL.

YOU SAY YOU FOLLOWED POLICY.

THAT'S FINE, BUT WE CAN DO BETTER THAN THAT.

I THINK THE OTHER THING ABOUT THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S LETTER WAS SHE WAS REFERRING TO HAND COUNTING. AND THE INTERESTING THING WAS WE DIDN'T HAVE A MEETING MARCH THE 1ST WEEK BECAUSE OF THE ELECTION. BUT THE FIRST MEETING, MARCH 12TH. OF JONES WENT UP AND SAID, HEY, WE'RE NOT FOLLOWING IT.

AND IF ANYBODY WANTS TO CARRY, IF YOU HAVE A CONCEALED WEAPON AND YOU'RE AN EMPLOYEE IN THE COUNTY, YOU HAVE TO SEE THESE THREE PEOPLE.

YOU HAVE TO SEE CEO RICKERT, YOU HAVE TO SEE MONIKA FUGITT AND YOU SEE YOUR DEPARTMENT HEAD. IF YOU HAVE THAT, WE'LL SIGN OFF ON IT.

YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO TAKE SOME TYPE OF LITTLE TEST.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT EVER CAME ABOUT AT ALL.

SO THAT'S IN REGARDS TO THAT.

SO ONE THING CLOSED SESSION LAST WEEK, KEVIN CAME OUT OF CLOSED SESSION AND HE SAID THIS COMMENT. AND KEVIN IT'S ONE OF THE BEST COMMENTS YOU'VE EVER SAID. SO I DO WANT TO PLAY IT. THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD ONES. I MAKE A QUICK STATEMENT JUST ON THAT JUST SO THE PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS ANYTHING THAT AS IT RELATES TO TRANSPARENCY AND GETTING INFORMATION OUT, I THINK IS REALLY IMPORTANT.

SO I KNOW YOU'RE WORKING.

NEXT UP, LAURA HOBBS. THANK YOU.

WELCOME. THANK YOU. MY TIME STARTED BEFORE I GOT TO THE PODIUM.

BUT ANYWAY, I'M GOING TO RECOMMEND THAT YOU GUYS PUT A CHARTER AMENDMENT ON THE NOVEMBER 5TH ELECTION. WE ARE A CHARTER COUNTY NOW AND WE NEED TO UTILIZE THAT.

WE HAVE ALMOST NO ARTICLES IN OUR CHARTER SO FAR.

IT'S YOUR POSITION AS BOARD MEMBERS TO LISTEN TO THE PUBLIC.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S GAINING A LOT OF PUBLIC SUPPORT RIGHT NOW IS ELECTION REFORM.

IN PARTICULAR, WE'RE DOING THE VOTER ID LOCAL AMENDMENT HERE.

AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU GUYS, WITH THE STROKE OF A PEN COULD PUT ON THE NOVEMBER 5TH BALLOT. SO FAR YOU HAVEN'T HAD HAVEN'T TAKEN THAT DIRECTION.

AND THE CITIZENS ARE BY LAW ABLE TO DO THIS THEMSELVES THROUGH A CITIZEN LED INITIATIVE.

IT'S A LEGALLY ALLOWABLE PROCESS.

IT'S CONSTITUTIONALLY PROTECTED, RIGHT.

BUT YOU GUYS COULD DO IT WITH A STROKE OF A PEN, SO WHY NOT TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS MOMENT? ALSO IN REGARDS TO C11, I RECOMMEND YOU DO NOT RENEW JOSEPH LLANOS CONTRACT FOR FOUR YEARS.

HE'S MISLED THIS BOARD ON NUMEROUS OCCASIONS.

HE DOES NOT SUPPORT THE CITIZENS OF SHASTA COUNTY.

HE HAS SUED INNOCENT CITIZENS ASKING FOR DAMAGES OF COURT FEES TO BE PAID BY THE CITIZENS TO HIM FOR A FELONIOUS LAWSUIT THAT FAILED IN COURT BECAUSE OF MULTIPLE DEFICIENCIES. AND LASTLY, I WANT TO RECOMMEND THAT INSTEAD OF USING 7 MILLION OF THE MONEY PROMISED TO THE JAIL TO TEAR DOWN THIS OLD COURTHOUSE INSTEAD OF USING THAT $7 MILLION.

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WHY DON'T YOU JUST OPEN THAT UP? BRING IT BACK ON THE AGENDA.

OPEN IT UP FOR THE ELECTIONS DEPARTMENT TO USE.

THAT'S MY RECOMMENDATION. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. THAT WAS OUR LAST SPEAKER. CHAIR.

NICK, COME ON UP. THANK YOU.

I DECIDED I NEEDED TO COMMENT ON A FEW THINGS.

CHAIR, HE DID PASS EARLIER.

THAT'S OKAY. IS THERE A RULE THAT SAYS YOU CAN'T CHANGE YOUR MIND? LISTEN. HEY. WE'VE STOPPED.

STOP. WE'VE ALLOWED PEOPLE WHO HAVE PASSED WHO ARE WAITING FOR A PHONE CALL OR IN THE RESTROOM. WE'VE LET THEM COME BACK UP. THERE'S TWO PEOPLE WITH WITH NO NAME. IF YOU'RE A NO NAME, COME ON UP AND GETTING CUTE, BECAUSE THERE'S TWO OF THOSE. MR. GARDNER, GO AHEAD. TWO MINUTES. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

FOR SUPERVISOR LONG CORKY HARMON AND MATT PLUMMER THE AGREEMENT WITH THE TRIBE TO PROVIDE SERVICES, POLICE AND FIRE WAS MADE BY TIM GARMAN, NOT KEVIN CRYE. I HOPE YOU GUYS ARE AWARE OF THAT.

YOU KNOW, AND THEN WHEN WE GET BACK TO OUR EIGHT NO PRICE IS TOO MUCH FOR HONEST ELECTIONS. I DON'T CARE WHAT IT COSTS US.

WE NEED HONEST ELECTIONS.

YOU KNOW, STEVE KHAN WAS UP HERE TALKING ABOUT IT WAS TIME FOR SOME SAFETY BACK THERE.

I ASSUME THAT'S IN WASHINGTON DC.

THANK YOU, PRESIDENT TRUMP, FOR SENDING IN THE TROOPS AND GETTING THIS MESS STRAIGHTENED OUT. I GUESS HE DIDN'T WANT TO SAY THAT.

AND SUSAN WEISS WAS UP HERE COMPLAINING ABOUT THE LIBRARY BEING SHUT DOWN DURING THIS HEAT STROKE. YOU KNOW, SHE ONLY LIVES ABOUT 3 OR 4 BLOCKS DOWN FROM THE LIBRARY.

SHE'S GOT A HUGE BACKYARD AND A POOL.

MAYBE SHE COULD HAVE THEM OVER TO COOL OFF.

THANK YOU. HEY, THAT'S YOUR FIRST WARNING.

THAT'S SUPER OUT OF LINE.

WOW. IT'S UNREAL. REALLY.

ALL RIGHT. UNREAL. ALL RIGHT.

THAT'S PUBLIC COMMENT.

MISS BLANKENSHIP I KNOW WE HAVE HAVE WE HAVE SUPERVISOR LONG IS OFFICIALLY PULLED C11.

[CONSENT CALENDAR]

IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT, YES. OKAY, SO WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A MOTION.

I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. MAKE A MOTION.

WE HAVE A MOTION REMAINDER.

WE HAVE A MOTION BY SUPERVISOR KELSTROM SECOND SUPERVISOR PLUMMER OUR BEAT YOU TO IT SIR. OKAY. SO THAT IS FOR C ONE THROUGH TEN, ONE THROUGH TEN.

AND I DON'T BELIEVE THERE WAS ANY 4/5 VOTES IN CONSENT.

SO WE HAVE A MOTION. WE HAVE A SECOND. WE'VE TAKEN PUBLIC COMMENT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR.

AYE. PASSES FIVE ZERO.

NOW WE'LL GO TO C 11 SUPERVISOR LONG.

[C11 Approve a renewal employment agreement with Joseph Larmour, appointing him as County Counsel of Shasta County for a new four-year term commencing on August 13, 2025, and stating related terms and conditions of employment.]

YOU PULLED THIS. THIS IS ABOUT THE RENEWAL EMPLOYMENT AGREEMENT WITH COUNTY COUNSEL JOSEPH LARMOR. GO AHEAD.

AND MONICA FUGITT, I THINK YOU'RE UP HERE WITH THAT DEPARTMENT, SO CORRECT WITH HR. ALL RIGHT, GO AHEAD.

THANK YOU CHAIR. SO, MONICA, I BELIEVE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT FOR TRANSPARENCY PURPOSES, THE PUBLIC HAS A RIGHT TO HEAR THE REASONING BEHIND THIS CONTRACT RENEWAL, AND I CAN GIVE YOU MY UNDERSTANDING OF THIS CONTRACT RENEWAL, WHICH IS CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT THIS WOULD REINSTATE THE ENTIRE CONTRACT FOR AN ADDITIONAL YEAR.

SO IT'S IT'S IN A SENSE, A ROLLING FOUR YEAR CONTRACT.

SO THE SEVERANCE PACKAGE WOULD GO BACK TO THE FOUR YEARS.

THE CONTRACT ITSELF WOULD GO BACK TO FOUR YEARS.

SO IS THAT IS THAT ACCURATE? SO THERE HAVE BEEN SOME MODIFICATIONS TO THE AGREEMENT TO REMOVE THINGS SUCH AS THE SIGN ON BONUS THAT WAS IN THE INITIAL AGREEMENT.

ALSO IT WOULDN'T ROLL BACK THE SEVERANCE ALL THE WAY BACK TO FOUR YEARS.

IT WOULD THERE'S STILL AN 18 MONTH MAXIMUM ON THAT SEVERANCE.

SO YES, IT DOES RESTART THAT FOUR YEAR PERIOD AS OF THE ADOPTION OF THIS AGREEMENT.

BUT THERE HAVE BEEN SOME OF THOSE MODIFICATIONS AS WELL.

SO, SO. I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THIS 18 MONTH VERSUS THE FOUR YEAR PERIOD.

SO IT'S A ROLLING 18 MONTH SEVERANCE.

SO IF IT DROPS FROM A FOUR YEAR TO A THREE YEAR TO A TWO YEAR, YOU STILL GET THE 18 MONTH SEVERANCE.

CORRECT. NO MORE THAN 18 MONTHS.

CORRECT. AND THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE LENGTH OF THE CONTRACT.

CORRECT. I MEAN, IF IF, FOR EXAMPLE, THE CONTRACT WERE TO RUN DOWN TO LESS THAN 18 MONTHS AND THEN WE WERE TO REINSTATE IT, THEN YOU WOULD BE EXTENDING THAT SEVERANCE RIGHT AT THAT POINT IN TIME.

OKAY. OKAY. AND ANOTHER QUESTION I HAVE, AND I HAPPEN TO KNOW A COUNTY COUNCIL MARRIED TO ONE. SHE SAID THAT IN HER COUNTY, IT'S NOT A COMMON PRACTICE TO HAVE A ROLLING FOUR YEAR CONTRACT. GOING FORWARD.

IS THIS THE NORM FOR THIS COUNTY, OR IS THIS THE NORM FOR THE STATE,

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FOR ALL COUNTY COUNCILS? ARE YOU ARE YOU AWARE? NO. I CAN'T REALLY SPEAK FOR THE OTHER COUNTIES AND HOW THEY HANDLE IT.

IN THE PAST WE HAVE HAD RESOLUTIONS AND IN THIS CASE WE HAVE AN AGREEMENT.

THERE'S NOTHING THAT PREVENTS US FROM DOING A NEW AGREEMENT THAT'S AT THE PREROGATIVE OF THIS BOARD. SO YOU KNOW, I DON'T HAVE A PAST, A STRONG PAST PRACTICE TO LOOK UPON, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN IT HASN'T HAPPENED EITHER. DO YOU HAPPEN TO KNOW WITH FOR EXAMPLE, AM I ALLOWED TO SPEAK OF A FORMER COUNTY COUNCIL OR IS THAT PRIVILEGED? I DON'T SEE ANY REASON WHY WE COULDN'T. OKAY.

SO WITH RUBEN CRUZ, DID HE HAVE A ROLLING FOUR YEAR CONTRACT, OR DID HE HAVE A FOUR YEAR CONTRACT THAT JUST KEPT TICKING DOWN UNTIL IT GOT TO YEAR ONE, AND THEN YOU RENEW IT THEN FOR THE NEXT FOUR YEARS? THE CIRCUMSTANCES WERE A LITTLE DIFFERENT IN THAT WE HAD A RESOLUTION FOR MR. CRUZ, AND IT WAS FOR A FOUR YEAR TERM.

SO EVERY YEAR IT WAS RENEWED BY RESOLUTION.

SO RUBEN CRUZ EVERY YEAR GOT FOR JUST FOUR YEARS STARTED OVER EVERY YEAR WITH THE RESOLUTION. THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

I ASKED THAT SAME QUESTION AND THAT WAS THAT'S WHAT'S BEEN DONE FOR QUITE SOME TIME IN SHASTA COUNTY. I, I'M NOT SURE THAT THAT'S ACCURATE.

BUT THAT'S, I MEAN, SO I, I DO BELIEVE IT IS BECAUSE, I MEAN, BECAUSE I WENT BACK AND YOU LOOK AT THE RESOLUTIONS EVERY, EVERY YEAR, BECAUSE WHEN WE WERE FIRST ON THE BOARD, WE VOTED ON THAT. AND THEN HE WAS PUTTING HIS NOTICE IN.

SO IT WAS, THAT WAS IN THAT SAME PERIOD OF TIME, WE MAY HAVE DONE A THAT MAY HAVE HAPPENED ON ON OCCASION.

I MAY BE OFF ON THE SEMANTICS.

I'M JUST SAYING RUBEN CRUZ HAD A FOUR YEAR CONTRACT.

HE HAD A FOUR YEAR RESOLUTION AND WAS RENEWED EVERY FOUR YEARS.

CORRECT. OKAY. AND IS THIS POLICY WITHIN THE COUNTY, ACROSS ALL DEPARTMENT HEADS THAT THEY HAVE THESE ROLLING FOUR YEAR CONTRACTS THAT KEEP UPPING AUTOMATICALLY OR BY BOARD VOTE EVERY YEAR.

SO IT'S ALWAYS A FOUR YEAR PERIOD VERSUS A DECLINING NUMBER OF YEARS.

SO WE HAVE DONE THAT IN THE PAST WITH MR. RICKERT AGREEMENT. WE DO HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH MR. RICKERT. OTHER DEPARTMENT HEAD POSITIONS ARE APPOINTED BY RESOLUTION, AND THERE ARE NOT NECESSARILY AGREEMENTS ASSOCIATED WITH THEM OR TERM LENGTHS IN THE SAME MANNER THAT THERE IS FOR THE CEO OR THE COUNTY COUNCIL POSITION.

EXCUSE ME. OKAY. AND JOE, THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH YOUR PERFORMANCE.

I'M NOT I'M JUST RAISING THIS FOR PURPOSE OF TRANSPARENCY AND FOR TRYING TO FIGURE OUT.

AND ONE OF MY CONCERNS, HONESTLY, IS I WON'T BE HERE FOREVER.

AND A NEW BOARD AT SOME POINT MAY WANT TO WORK THEIR OWN WILL.

AND SO IF WE ALWAYS HAVE THIS, IT TIES UP THE NEXT BOARD FROM EVER HAVING ANY FLEXIBILITY TO TO RENEW THE CONTRACT OR TO SEEK ANOTHER ENTITY.

SO THAT IS NOTHING, NOTHING AGAINST OUR COUNTY COUNCIL.

AND BECAUSE I ENJOY WORKING WITH JOE AND HE HAS BEEN VERY HELPFUL TO ME AND VERY RESPONSIVE. SO IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT.

I'M JUST LOOKING OUT FOR THE FUTURE BOARDS STAKE AND THEIR RIGHT TO SELF-GOVERN THEIR BOARD OPERATIONS. AND IF WE KEEP ROLLING THE FOUR YEAR CONTRACT, I WORRY ABOUT THAT ABILITY IN THE FUTURE.

OTHER BOARDS COULD DECIDE WHEN THEY EVALUATE THAT.

THEY EITHER DO NOT WANT TO RENEW ON A ROLLING BASIS OR LET THAT CONTRACT RUN FOR THAT FOUR YEAR PERIOD, SO IT DOESN'T LOCK US INTO ANYTHING IN THE FUTURE.

IF THIS BOARD CURRENTLY HAS DECIDED THAT THEY WANT TO RENEW THAT, THAT DOESN'T MEAN A FUTURE BOARD COULDN'T DECIDE THAT THEY WANT TO LET THAT TERM RUN THE FULL FOUR YEARS BEFORE RENEWING, BUT THEY WOULD HAVE TO LET THAT RUN THE FULL FOUR YEARS IS WHAT MY POINT IS.

CORRECT. CORRECT. IF THAT'S THE DECISION OF THAT BOARD.

OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU.

IS THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS? I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE C11.

I'LL SECOND. ANY ANY OTHER BOARD DISCUSSION.

WHY DON'T WE GET THERE? I WAS JUST GOING TO REMIND YOU ABOUT PUBLIC. I KNOW. ALL RIGHT.

SO WE HAVE WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT FOR HAVE SIGNED UP FOR THAT IF YOU'VE ALREADY SPOKEN ON IT AND I'LL DEFER TO YOU IF THAT'S BECOMING A BACKUP.

BUT IF PEOPLE SPOKE ABOUT IT, I BELIEVE IN BEFORE, BUT BUT YOU RUN THAT SHOW.

SO. SURE. SO WE HAVE SEVEN SPEAKERS.

GET THEM IN QUEUE. PERFECT. THREE MINUTES EACH.

TWO MINUTES. BECAUSE I KNOW THIS.

YOU KNOW WHAT? HONESTLY? YEAH. LET'S JUST DO THREE. I WANT TO BE CONSISTENT.

CHIEF O'HARA. I'M SORRY. I'M TRYING TO.

I'M TRYING TO PUSH YOU AND SHERIFF JOHNSON.

I KNOW HE'S BACK THERE HARASSING AND WANTING TO PUT YOUR BADGE ON BECAUSE HE ALWAYS WANTED TO BE A FIREFIGHTER. BUT COME ON UP, MISS LUCERO.

FIRST UP, LORI BRIDGFORD, THEN FOLLOWED BY DOLORES.

TEXT ME. I DON'T WANT TO GET A TEXT.

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ALL RIGHT, LORI BRIDGFORD.

OKAY, THEN. FOLLOWED BY DOLORES LUCERO.

WHILE SHE'S COMING UP, IF YOU WANT TO GET IN QUEUE. JENNY. BENJAMIN.

DWAYNE. LESLIE. THEN LAURA.

HOBBS.

OKAY. OKAY. I'M GLAD I GOT TO HEAR SOME OF THAT DISCUSSION.

I WAS TAKING MASSIVE NOTES, TRYING TO GRASP EVERYTHING THAT WAS BEING INCLUDED. SO I HAVE ISSUES WITH THIS ROLLING FOUR YEAR.

I JUST DON'T KNOW HOW MANY THINGS I CAN SAY IN THREE MINUTES, BUT THE WHOLE WHISTLE-BLOWER COMPLAINT.

I DON'T KNOW IF PEOPLE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY YET TO SEE THE SHASTA ANON INVESTIGATES.

THAT WAS ABOUT A 14 MINUTE RELEASE ON SUNDAY.

IT'S ON YOUTUBE. DIDN'T LOOK GOOD.

FORMER CHAIR PATRICK JONES WAS HAVING ISSUES WITH THE WHISTLEBLOWER THING AT THE DAS OFFICE. MCCUMBER HAD HIS CHANCE AS COUNTY COUNSEL.

KIND OF WENT UNDER THE RUG AND THEN IT BECAME JOE LARMER YOUR, I GUESS, SPIN OR TURN TO ADDRESS IT.

IT'S STILL GOT BURIED, DISREGARDED, CENSORED.

IT'S GONE. SO THAT STONEWALLING ISN'T ISN'T GOING TO WIN WIN PEOPLE'S CONFIDENCE.

AND ESPECIALLY WITH THE LAWSUIT STUFF WITH THE SHASTA FIVE, AS IT'S CALLED. I'M JUST I'M REALLY CONCERNED THAT THERE'S JUST TOO MUCH BAGGAGE, HISTORY, SECRETS AND PEOPLE THAT JUST REALLY DON'T WANT TO BE TRANSPARENT.

THEY'LL SAY THEY WANT TO BE TRANSPARENT, BUT WHEN IT COMES TO ACTING AND BEHAVING LIKE THAT, IT'S NOT OCCURRING.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY OTHER WAY TO ADDRESS THIS OTHER THAN TO RUBBER STAMP THEM FOR YEARS. I JUST, I DON'T KNOW.

I SAW A MEME THE OTHER DAY ON A CAR ABOUT A SCREW.

PEOPLE'S FEELINGS JUST TELL THE TRUTH.

I GUESS THAT'S A PRETTY COMMON THING TO UNDERSTAND. BUT I DO HAVE SOME ISSUES FROM WHAT HAS HAPPENED HERE RECENTLY WITH THE ADVICE, AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S WELL, A DOCTOR CAN SCARE SOMEONE BY GIVING ADVICE.

AN ATTORNEY CAN AS WELL.

WE'RE NOT ALL DOCTORS. WE'RE NOT ALL ATTORNEYS. SO SOMETIMES PEOPLE CAN ABUSE THEIR KNOWLEDGE BASE. AND I DON'T LIKE TO SEE THAT HAPPEN HERE AT OUR BOARD MEETINGS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT UP, DOLORES LUCERO, FOLLOWED BY JENNY, THEN BENJAMIN, THEN LESLIE.

WHEN YOU GO INTO CLOSED SESSION, IT REQUIRES FOR PUBLIC DISCUSSION AFTER THE CLOSED SESSION UNDER GOVERNMENT CODE 54957.18, IF THE BOARD TAKE ACTION IN CLOSED SESSION TO APPROVE, APPROVE, AMEND OR RENEW AN EMPLOYMENT EMPLOYMENT CONTRACT, THEY MUST REPORT ACTION.

THE VOTE AND ANY CHANGE IN THE COMPENSATION IN CLOSED AND OPEN SESSION IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE CLOSED SESSION. HOW MANY TIMES DID YOU HAVE CLOSED SESSION REGARDING THIS ACTION ITEM? YOU DID NOT COME BACK OUT AFTER CLOSED SESSION TO REPORT IT TO THE CITIZENS AT ALL.

THIS IS A VIOLATION OF THOSE CODES AND OTHER ONES TOO.

DID ANY OF YOU VOTE FOR THIS? BECAUSE IF YOU DID WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO KNOW, WHAT WAS THE VOTE AND WHO VOTED FOR WHAT, AND THEN ACTUALLY BECOMES A BROWN ACT IF YOU ACTUALLY CONSIDER TO RENEW HIS CONTRACT.

SO THIS IS NOT A LEGAL WHAT YOU'RE DOING AT ALL.

SO FOR YOU TO PUT IT ON THE CONSENT ITEM TO RUBBER STAMP TO TO MAKE SURE MR. JOE LARMER GETS ANOTHER FOUR YEARS CONTRACT.

THAT'S NOT LEGAL. SO IF YOU THINK YOU'RE GOING TO GET GET AROUND BY FINDING WAYS TO CHEAT INTO CITIZENS. WE HAVE A RIGHT.

WHAT YOU DO, IT AFFECTS US.

YOUR WAY IS NOT OUR WAY.

BREAKING THE LAWS AND VIOLATING PEOPLE'S RIGHTS TO KNOW.

YOU THINK IT'S FUNNY? YOU THINK SMILING THERE MAKES YOU LIKE SPECIAL MR. KEVIN CRYE. YOU THINK IT'S FUNNY TO VIOLATE PEOPLE'S RIGHTS AND AND THE PEOPLE'S BUSINESS, TO KNOW WHAT YOU DO BEHIND CLOSED DOORS.

IF YOU ALL VOTED BEHIND CLOSED DOORS, THEN IT'S A BROWN ACT BECAUSE YOU DID NOT DISCLOSE IT TO THE PEOPLE.

WE HAVE A RIGHT. IF YOU VOTE ON THIS AND RUBBER STAMP IT, YOU KNOW THAT'S ANOTHER VIOLATION AS YOU AS PUBLIC OFFICIAL BECOMES A CRIME BECAUSE YOU HOLD THE MOST HIGH POSITIONS.

YOU MIGHT NOT LIKE HEARING THIS, BUT I'M TELLING YOU, KEVIN, THAT BIG BOOK THAT I HAD THAT ALSO, WHEN YOUR CONTRACTS IN MULTIPLE CONTRACTS, THE COURT WENT IN THAT COMPLAINT.

SO THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT YOU DON'T KNOW THAT I PUT IN THERE.

SO YOU WANT TO KEEP ON VIOLATING PEOPLE'S RIGHTS.

KEEP ON BREAKING THE LAW.

I DON'T HAVE NO PROBLEM.

YOU KEEP ON DOING THAT. I LOVE IT BECAUSE YOU GIVE ME MORE AMMUNITION TO ACTUALLY SUBMIT

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EVERYTHING I NEED FOR THEM TO BE FOR YOU TO BE ACCOUNTABLE.

MR. JOE LARMER DOES NOT DESERVE TO BE HERE ANOTHER FOUR YEARS BY BREAKING THE LAW IN RUBBER, STAMPING HIS CONTRACT BY VIOLATION.

WHAT IS THIS? ARE WE GOING BY THE STATE OR OR CHARTER LAWS? WHERE'S THE RESOLUTION? YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE A RESOLUTION.

I'VE BEEN TO SO MANY MEETINGS.

I NEVER SEEN THIS. BUT THIS IS THE FIRST BECAUSE KEVIN.

THANK YOU JENNY. FOLLOWED BY BENJAMIN, DUANE, THEN LESLIE, FOLLOWED BY LAURA HOBBS.

GOOD MORNING SUPERVISORS.

BE ASSURED THAT I TAKE NO PLEASURE IN THESE TYPES OF SPEECHES.

NONETHELESS, SOMETIMES THESE ARE THE SPEECHES THAT WE MUST GIVE.

I'M SURE THAT MANY WOULD SAY I SPEAK TODAY ON PERSONAL REASONS, BUT I PERSONALLY HARBOR NO ILL WILL TOWARDS THE COUNTY COUNCIL AS A PERSON, BUT AS A COUNCIL, I FEEL HIS WORK MUST HONESTLY BE ASSESSED NOT ONLY AS A MAN THAT YOU KNOW, BUT AS A COUNCIL WHO IS PAID BY OUR TAXPAYER MONEY.

THAT MONEY IS SPENT TO ENSURE THE COUNTY IS OPERATING WITHIN THEIR JURISDICTION, THAT THEY ARE WORKING WITHIN THE LAW, THAT THEY ARE, WHETHER THAT LAW BE LOCAL, STATE OR FEDERAL.

AS A GOVERNMENT AGENCY, IT'S IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER TO RESPECT THE CONSTITUENTS CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS, AND THAT IS AN AGENCY.

THOSE RIGHTS ARE NEVER TO BE TRAMPLED UPON.

LOOK AT ME AND HONESTLY SAY THAT HE HAS DONE THAT JOB CORRECTLY.

HONESTLY, JUDGE HIS JOB TO PREVENT LAWSUITS ALONE, THEN HONESTLY VOTE ON THIS ITEM.

NEXT UP BENJAMIN, FOLLOWED BY LESLIE, FOLLOWED BY LAURA HOBBS.

THEN CHRISTIAN. SO IN IN PAST YEARS COUNTY COUNCIL HAS BEEN A ROLE THAT OPERATED QUIETLY, PROFESSIONALLY.

THE PEOPLE IN THAT POSITION DID THEIR JOB FOR THE COUNTY AND WERE LARGELY UNCONTROVERSIAL.

THEY PROVIDED LEGAL GUIDANCE, KEPT THE COUNTY OUT OF UNNECESSARY DISPUTES, AND MAINTAINED PUBLIC TRUST.

NOW, I FEEL THAT MR. JOE LARMER TENURE HAS BEEN A BIT DIFFERENT.

HIS TIME AS COUNTY COUNCIL HAS BEEN MARKED BY CONTROVERSY, HIGH PROFILE LEGAL ACTIONS AND DECISIONS THAT HAVE DIVIDED THIS COMMUNITY.

HE HAD MY WIFE ARRESTED.

HE PHYSICALLY GRABBED A SPEAKER AT A BOARD MEETING WHO WAS SAYING THINGS THE BOARD DIDN'T AGREE WITH, THEN SUED COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO WERE WORKING ON A PETITION.

WHETHER YOU AGREE WITH ANY OF THESE ACTIONS OR NOT, THEY MADE THE POSITION FAR FROM NEUTRAL IN THE EYES OF MANY RESIDENTS.

SO TODAY'S PROPOSAL IS TO GIVE LAURA MOORE A FOUR YEAR CONTRACT RENEWAL.

NOW, I BELIEVE THAT'S THE WRONG APPROACH. A FOUR YEAR COMMITMENT TIES THE HANDS OF ANY FUTURE BOARD, INCLUDING THE BOARD THAT WILL BE SEATED AFTER THE NEXT ELECTION.

IF THAT NEW MAJORITY BELIEVES THE COUNTY NEEDS A DIFFERENT DIRECTION AND LEGAL COUNSEL, THIS DECISION WOULD MAKE THAT NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE WITHOUT SIGNIFICANT COST AND DISRUPTION. A MORE PRUDENT COURSE OF ACTION WOULD BE TO APPROVE A ONE YEAR RENEWAL THAT WOULD ALLOW STABILITY IN THE OFFICE FOR NOW, WHILE GIVING THE NEXT BOARD MAJORITY, WHOEVER THEY MAY BE, THE ABILITY TO MAKE THEIR OWN DECISION ABOUT THIS IMPORTANT ROLE.

AND COME ON, YOU GUYS KNEW BETTER THAN TO PUT THIS ON CONSENT.

LAST MEETING, IT WAS NO REPORTABLE ACTION.

WHY WEREN'T WE NOTIFIED OF THE BOARD'S INTENT TO RENEW? LET'S START PRACTICING REAL TRANSPARENCY.

NOT THIS LIP SERVICE THING THIS BOARD LIKES TO DO.

I URGE YOU TO RECONSIDER THE FOUR YEAR TERM AND APPROVE A ONE YEAR RENEWAL.

THANK YOU. LESLIE, FOLLOWED BY LAURA HOBBS AND THEN CHRISTIAN.

CHRISTIAN WILL BE OUR LAST SPEAKER. OKAY.

AGAIN, KEVIN. DERANGEMENT SYNDROME AT ITS FINEST.

IF ANYBODY ELSE HAD HELPED RECRUIT OR BRING IN THIS COUNTY STAFF OR THIS COUNTY COUNCIL.

THREE QUARTERS OF THIS CRAP WOULD NOT EVEN BE BEING PRESENTED.

SO THAT'S FUN. THE MAJORITY OF LEGISLATION AND BACKLOG, WHICH BY THE WAY, GOOD JOB.

COUNCIL JOE LAMAR ON GETTING OUR BACKLOG DOWN TO WHAT YOU'VE GOTTEN IT.

IS FROM PREVIOUS COUNTY COUNCIL AND PREVIOUS BOARDS.

SO AGAIN, FALSE INFORMATION.

IT WAS NOT SQUEEZED INTO CONSENT.

IT'S BEEN IN CLOSED SESSION WITH OPPORTUNITY FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.

FOR YEARS WE HAD A BOARD THAT WAS MANAGED BY THE TWO SEATS TO YOUR LEFT.

BOTH OF THESE MEN HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB ANSWERING TO THIS BOARD.

THIS BOARD CONTROLS THOSE PLACES, NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND.

AND THAT'S THE NORM THAT THIS COUNTY AND THIS COMMUNITY IS USED TO.

LOOK AT CITY OF REDDING.

WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE A COUNCIL THAT BASICALLY RUBBER STAMPS AND SITS THERE AND DOES ABSOLUTELY NOTHING BUT LISTENS TO THE PEOPLE WHO CONTROL THEM INSTEAD OF THE OTHER WAY AROUND, WHICH IS HOW IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE.

SO THANK YOU, BOTH OF YOU, FOR THE ARROWS THAT YOU TAKE FOR DOING YOUR JOB AND LISTENING TO THE WILL OF THIS BOARD.

SORRY, I DIGRESS, I GOT OFF.

DO I AGREE 100% OF THE TIME WITH COUNCIL? LAMAR? NO, I THINK THAT THE SITUATION WITH STEPHEN KING IS UNFORTUNATE AND THAT THE

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COUNTY DOES BEAR SOME RESPONSIBILITY.

THERE WERE MULTIPLE PHONE CALLS TO LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES THAT SAID HE WAS IN VIOLATION OF A RESTRAINING ORDER AND WAS IN POSSESSION OF A WEAPON, WHICH BREAKS THAT RESTRAINING ORDER.

HAD OUR DISTRICT ATTORNEY, WHO WE HAVE A VOICE RECORDING FROM THE SHERIFF THAT SAID THAT IT HAD BEEN PASSED TO THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY.

HAD SHE TAKEN AND FILED CHARGES ON THAT? MAYBE SOMEBODY WOULDN'T HAVE GOT SHOT.

AND BEFORE ANYBODY SAYS IT WAS HIS FAULT FOR GOING TO THE DOOR IN THE 911 CALL, STEPHEN KING HAD NO CLUE WHO HE SHOT.

HE GAVE A SEVEN MINUTE LIST OF MANY PEOPLE HE MIGHT HAVE SHOT.

SO THERE'S THAT. SO ASIDE FROM THIS, AND AS SOMEBODY WHO WATCHES LOCAL GOVERNMENT CLOSELY, I SEE HIM CONSTANTLY TAKE DIRECTION FROM THE BOARD.

FOR THE PURPOSE OF TRANSPARENCY.

AND SINCE MR. LONG, YOU'RE THE ONE THAT PULLED THIS FOR THE PURPOSE OF TRANSPARENCY, I HOPE THAT EVERY ITEM IN CLOSED SESSION THAT HAS A MOTION TO PULL IT OUT OF CLOSED SESSION, YOU'RE THE FIRST TO SECOND IT OR YOU'RE THE FIRST TO MAKE THAT MOTION, BECAUSE THERE HAVE BEEN MANY TIMES WHERE PEOPLE ON THIS BOARD HAVE TRIED TO PULL SOMETHING OUT OF CLOSED SESSION, AND YOU HAVE NOT SECONDED IT.

SO FOR FULL TRANSPARENCY, I HOPE THAT'S WHAT WE DO MOVING FORWARD.

AND YEAH, I DON'T KNOW, THERE'S A LOT MORE, BUT THE NARRATIVE THAT YOU SUED THE CONSTITUENTS AGAIN, MOSTLY FALSE AND I REALLY HATE THE DIVISION IT'S CAUSING. THANK YOU.

LAURA HOBBS, FOLLOWED BY CHRISTIAN.

THANK YOU. YES. SO ON THIS MATTER, I, I DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS.

I DON'T UNDERSTAND IF THE 18TH MONTH SEVERANCE IS GOING TO BE A DEAL OR NOT.

CAN YOU ANSWER THAT? BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THERE SHOULD BE ANY 18 MONTH SEVERANCE.

IF YOU'RE GOING TO GO THIS DIRECTION, I THINK YOU SHOULD DO IT YEAR BY YEAR LIKE YOU HAVE DONE IN THE PAST.

AND I WANT TO JUST SAY THAT IN REGARDS TO SUING CITIZENS YOU KNOW, IT'S OBVIOUS WHO'S BEING SUED BY LOOKING AT THE PLAINTIFF.

THE PLAINTIFF IS THE PERSON WHO BROUGHT THE SUIT, THE RESPONDENT OR THE DEFENDANT IS THE PERSON WHO IS ACTUALLY DEFENDING THEMSELVES.

SO IN THE CASE OF THE SHASTA FIVE, IT WAS THE FIVE CITIZENS WERE LISTED AS DEFENDANTS. THEY WERE TRYING TO DEFEND THEMSELVES AGAINST JOSEPH LARMORE.

HERE HE USES FEAR AND INTIMIDATION TO CONTROL THE BOARD.

HE HE DOES THIS ON NUMEROUS DIFFERENT ISSUES.

I THINK THAT IT'S, YOU KNOW, THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER SAID THAT THE BOARD DIRECTS HIM. I SEE IT HAPPENS MORE SO THE OTHER WAY AROUND.

HE DIRECTS THE BOARD. THIS BOARD DOES NOT EMPLOY OUTSIDE COUNSEL IN AREAS WITH SPECIALTIES SUCH AS ELECTIONS, WHEN THEY COULD.

THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO HAVE ACTUALLY OFFERED TO HELP THEM, TO GIVE THEM A SECOND OPINION.

TO USE THE ANALOGY OF A DOCTOR, JOSEPH LARMORE IS NOT AN EXPERT IN ELECTIONS.

HE'S A GENERALIST. HE DOES COUNTY STUFF.

HE DOESN'T KNOW ELECTION LAW.

SO I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT YES, IN THE CASE OF THE SHASTA FIVE, HE SUED THE CITIZENS. AND THIS IS ALSO HAPPENING IN THE CASE OF ROBINS ROBINSON VERSUS THE COUNTY OF SHASTA IN THIS CASE YOU KNOW WHAT, WHAT HE'S DOING IS HE'S ASKING SOMEONE TO PAY $750,000 IN DAMAGES TO THE COUNTY.

AND THIS IS A CITIZEN WHO WAS A VICTIM OF THE CAR FIRE.

SO I, I SEE THINGS GOING AWRY HERE AS FAR AS CITIZENS BEING HARMED AS A RESULT OF HIS ACTIONS. AND I WOULD LIKE YOU TO REALLY SERIOUSLY CONSIDER THAT IN YOUR DECISION MAKING. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

COME ON UP AND CHAIR. THAT'S OUR LAST SPEAKER CUSHIONS.

OUR LAST ONE. I DON'T KNOW, JOE. YOU MUST BE DOING SOMETHING RIGHT.

YOU GOT EVERYBODY KIND OF PISSED OFF AT AT YOU.

AND YOU KNOW, ONE THING I CAN SAY ABOUT MR. MILLER. SEEING SEEN HIM IN ACTION.

VERY PROFESSIONAL, VERY CALM.

HE DOESN'T DO ANYTHING THIS BOARD DOESN'T ASK HIM TO DO.

SO, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE HEAR ABOUT CITIZENS BEING SUED BY JOSEPH MORTON.

NO, NO. BEING SUED BY THE COUNTY OF SHASTA.

NOW, I SUPPOSE MR. MILLER, IF HE WANTED TO, HE COULD FILE HIS OWN ACTION ON ON. I DON'T KNOW. BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT HE'S DOING.

YOU KNOW, I. THIS BOARD HAS GONE THROUGH COUNTY COUNCILS LIKE WHAT,

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4 OR 5 IN THE LAST FEW YEARS? WHAT KIND OF WHAT KIND OF GAME IS BEING PLAYED HERE? NOT MAGA ENOUGH TO MAGA TO YOU KNOW, ALL OF THAT STUFF COMES OUT OF THE BOX BECAUSE MR. MILLER IS A LITTLE MORE SIMPLY DOING WHAT THE COUNTY IS ASKING HIM TO DO.

IF IT'S LEGAL AND IT IS LEGAL.

WHEN THE COUNTY SAID NO, SORRY, SHASTA FIVE, WE WE WE'RE GOING TO STEP IN HERE BECAUSE WE JUST DON'T THINK WE DON'T THINK YOU HAVE A LEGAL GROUND TO STAND ON.

AND IT COST US AN AWFUL LOT OF MONEY.

WELL, THE JUDGE KIND OF YOU KNOW, HE DIDN'T RULE ON THE MERIT OF THAT OTHER THAN THERE IS THE ABILITY FOR THESE PEOPLE TO GO AHEAD AND PUT THAT ON THE ON THE BALLOT.

IF THEY DIDN'T GET THE SIGNATURES, FINE.

YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE WAY YOU DO IT.

YOU KNOW, SO I FEEL SORRY FOR FOR MR. LAMORA AND HEY, I MIGHT BE THE NEXT PERSON.

THE COUNTY SUES THE WAY, YOU KNOW, THE WAY I'M GOING.

BUT THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS.

THANK YOU, SIR, FOR DOING A GOOD JOB.

THANK YOU FOR DOING WHAT? WHAT? THE COUNTY ASKS YOU TO DO.

IF ANYBODY IS TAKING THE HEAT, IT'S GOT TO BE THE PEOPLE UP HERE ON THE IN THESE SEATS. IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT CASE.

THE COUNTY IS HAVING TO TAKE INTO COURT.

IT WOULDN'T GO INTO COURT IF THERE WASN'T A LEGAL PROBABILITY OR SOME SORT OF LEGAL PRECEDENT INVOLVED. SO, YOU KNOW, GENERALLY SPEAKING, WHEN YOU WHEN YOU SUE A COUNTY.

YOU KNOW, THERE'S A CHANCE YOU MIGHT LOSE.

AND GENERALLY IN COURT WHEN YOU LOSE, YOU PAY THE COST BACK TO THE CITIZENS THAT PAID FOR THAT LAW ACTION.

AND THAT'S US. THANK YOU.

OKAY. NO OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTERS.

SUPERVISOR SUPERVISOR LONG ARE YOU IN QUEUE FROM BEFORE OR. YOU'RE BACK IN.

BACK IN. YOU'RE BACK IN. YES, SIR. SUPERVISOR LONG THANK YOU.

AND MAYBE MONICA, YOU CAN COME BACK UP.

I'M GOING TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT HERE.

SORRY ABOUT THAT. BUT GOVERNMENT CODE 27641.

ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THAT? YES.

CAN YOU CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT FOR US? SO I PULLED THAT UP AND ESSENTIALLY 27640 AND 27641.

ESTABLISH THAT THE COUNTY COUNCIL WILL HAVE A FOUR YEAR TERM OF APPOINTMENT, THAT THEY WILL BE APPOINTED BY THE BOARD AND THEIR SPECIFIC CIRCUMSTANCES UNDER WHICH THE COUNTY COUNCIL CAN BE REMOVED FROM THAT APPOINTMENT.

AND IS IT YOUR UNDERSTANDING THEN THAT IS A STANDARD FOR YOUR APPOINTMENT? AND WHAT DOES WHAT WE ARE CONSIDERING HERE CONFLICT WITH 27641 SUPERVISOR.

I WOULD JUST SAY YOU'RE ASKING HER FOR A LEGAL OPINION.

OH, OKAY. YEAH, WELL, I'LL THROW THAT YOUR DIRECTION, JOE.

SO ULTIMATELY, I WOULDN'T RENDER A LEGAL OPINION LIKE THAT ON THE FLY.

REALITY IS, IT'S A IT'S A FOUR YEAR TERM.

THERE'S NOTHING, IN MY OPINION THAT CONFLICTS WITH IT BEING A REVOLVING TERM, AS IN RENEWED EACH YEAR.

OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

MONICA. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A SUBSEQUENT MOTION THAT WE BRING THIS BACK.

I'M NOT SAYING EITHER WAY, WHICH HOW I WILL VOTE.

BUT I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT INDUSTRY STANDARD IS IN THE STATE, AND I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT PAST PRACTICES IN THIS COUNTY. AND I DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION CURRENTLY.

SO I WOULD MAKE A MOTION THAT WE TABLE THIS DISCUSSION, CLOSE IT OUT AND BRING THIS BACK NEXT WEEK'S MEETING FOR A VOTE.

AND I WILL BE FULLY PREPARED AT THAT TIME.

THAT'S MY THAT'S MY MOTION.

WE HAVE A MOTION BY SUPERVISOR LONG TO PUSH THIS TO THE NEXT MEETING.

FAILS FOR LACK OF A SECOND.

SUPERVISOR PLUMMER. HOLD ON.

WAIT. JUST WANT TO HEAR ONE MORE TIME. JUST. I DON'T WANT TO BE ACCUSED OF RUSHING IT.

IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT? NO, NO, NO SECOND. ALL RIGHT, SUPERVISOR PLUMMER.

YEAH. I APPRECIATE SUPERVISOR LONG LOOKING INTO THE PRECEDENT FOR ME.

I THINK JOE HAS DONE A GREAT JOB.

I THINK YOU'VE REMAINED OBJECTIVE IN THE FACE OF POLITICAL PRESSURE FROM BOTH SIDES.

AND YOU'VE STUCK TO WHAT YOU THINK IS THE RIGHT LEGAL OPINION.

YOU REMAIN CALM AND I AND YOU'VE BEEN WELL PREPARED.

AND SO I'D BE HAPPY TO HAVE YOU BE OUR COUNSEL FOR THE NEXT FOUR YEARS, WHICH WILL BE OVER THE TERM THAT I'LL BE ON THE BOARD. AND SO THAT'S ALSO TO YOUR POINT OF TYING UP OTHER BOARDS.

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THAT WILL BE PRETTY MUCH THE TIME IN WHICH I'LL BE ON THE BOARD.

AND SO I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT EITHER.

MAYBE IN THE FUTURE WE CHANGE COURSE, BUT I THINK FOR THE NEXT FOUR YEARS I'D BE HAPPY TO HAVE JOE AS OUR COUNTY COUNSEL.

SO I'LL MAKE A MOTION. DO WE ALREADY. I ALREADY MADE IT. YEAH. OKAY, WELL, I'LL WEIGH IN. YOU EITHER.

GENTLEMEN. SUPERVISOR. KELSTROM. SUPERVISOR. OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

NOT ABOUT THE WOLVES. NO, NOT ABOUT THE.

ALL RIGHT. OKAY. YEAH. NO, I WOULD JUST LIKE.

I'M JUST THINKING, AND I APPRECIATE NOT THAT THE WOLVES AREN'T IMPORTANT.

I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S COMMENT. IT'S MY TURN TO TALK, SO BE QUIET. OKAY.

I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS AND YOUR CONCERNS, BUT I WAS JUST SITTING HERE THINKING, MAN, IF I WAS A PROFESSIONAL THAT COULD GO GET A JOB WHEREVER. AND I DON'T KNOW IF I'D PUT UP WITH WAITING ANOTHER WEEK FOR SOMEBODY TO TELL ME WHETHER I HAVE A JOB OR NOT.

AND I. AND SO I'M, I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'VE BEEN DOING.

YOU'VE BEEN DOING THIS A GREAT JOB. YOU, THE PEOPLE OUT THERE DON'T HAVE THE PLEASURE OF BEING BEHIND CLOSED DOORS ALL THE TIME, LISTENING AND LEARNING IN MY CASE, YOU KNOW, AS HOW PROFESSIONAL HE IS.

AND HIS STAFF, MONICA HANDLING, HANDLING ALL THE PROBLEMS THAT WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH. IT'S IT'S LIKE MIND BOGGLING AT TIMES.

AND JOE'S ALWAYS SOMETIMES I CAN'T HEAR HIM BECAUSE HE TALKS A LITTLE SOFT.

I HAVE TO TELL HIM TO SPEAK UP A LITTLE BIT, BUT HE'S. BUT THANKS FOR WHAT YOU'RE DOING AND THANKS FOR YOUR YOUR MOTION.

AND I SECOND THAT. THANK YOU.

SO I'LL JUST I'LL BE SOMEWHAT BRIEF.

I THINK THE TWO MOST IMPORTANT DECISIONS A PERSON CAN MAKE IN THEIR LIFE IS IF THEY CHOOSE TO FOLLOW JESUS OR NOT. AND THE SECOND IS A PERSON THEY MARRY.

WHEN YOU GET INTO POLITICS WHAT I LEARNED VERY QUICKLY IS IF YOU DON'T HAVE A SOLID COUNTY COUNCIL AND A SOLID CEO AND A BOARD WORKING TOGETHER, IT'S GOING TO BE A BRUTAL ROW.

SO ONCE WE HAD THE ISSUES OF A REVOLVING DOOR OF COUNTY COUNCILS, AND I KIND OF JUST SAT IDLY BY AND LET DIFFERENT SUPERVISORS LEAD US DOWN DIFFERENT PATHS, I WENT OUT AND I THINK I FOUND THE BEST, NOT JUST LOCALLY, BUT THE BEST COUNTY COUNCIL WE COULD HAVE HAD.

BECAUSE THE ONE THING ABOUT JOE IS WHEN I SAY HE COULD CARE LESS ABOUT WHAT THE BOARD DOES, HE CARES ABOUT THE LAW.

AND EVEN I MEAN, I CAN'T EVEN BELIEVE I'M GOING TO SAY THIS, BUT I'M GOING TO AGREE WITH ONE SPEAKER HERE, CHRISTIAN, THAT IT TALKED ABOUT JOE JUST FOLLOWS THE LAW. AND THE ONE THING IS, WHAT I LIKE ABOUT JOE IS OR I'M SORRY, COUNSEL LARMER IS HE TELLS US WHAT THE LAW IS.

AND JUST TO SET THE RECORD STRAIGHT, JOE HAS NEVER ARRESTED ANYBODY.

OUR COUNTY COUNCIL DOESN'T HAVE THAT AUTHORITY. THE SHERIFF'S ARRESTS PEOPLE.

SO IF YOU'VE BEEN ARRESTED OR SOMEBODY YOU KNOW HAS BEEN ARRESTED, GO TALK TO THE SHERIFF. IF YOU DON'T LIKE THAT, MAYBE SOMEBODY HAS ENTERED INTO LITIGATION.

TALK TO THE BOARD BECAUSE COUNTY COUNSEL DOESN'T SUE ANYBODY.

THEY ARE BUT A MERE FUNCTION, A MERE FUNCTION OF THE WILL OF THIS BOARD.

AND LIKE SUPERVISOR LONG POINTED OUT, ALL OF US WILL NOT BE HERE FOREVER.

AND WHAT I THINK IS A GREAT STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

AND ONE THING I WANT TO SAY, COUNTY COUNCIL HAS TAKEN OUR OFFICE AND HAS COMPLETELY TRANSFORMED HOW THEY DO BUSINESS, THE MANNER IN WHICH THEY DO BUSINESS, THE PACE AT WHICH THEY DO BUSINESS.

GO ASK ALL THE DEPARTMENT HEADS ACROSS THIS COUNTY ABOUT HOW QUICKLY THINGS COME IN AND GET BACK OUT AND THE WORK THAT THEY DO, BECAUSE IT'S NOT ABOUT JUST HIM SITTING IN THAT SEAT. IT'S HIS LEADERSHIP OF THE OFFICE.

WE AS SUPERVISORS ONLY HAVE TWO PEOPLE THAT WE DIRECTLY OVERSEE, AND THEY'RE BOTH RIGHT THERE.

SO I AM ABSOLUTELY, ABSOLUTELY IN SUPPORT OF COUNSEL LARMER.

AND DOES EVERY DECISION GO OUR WAY? NO. IT'S LIKE IN BASEBALL, FOOTBALL'S A FOOT AND A HALF OUTSIDE OR HITS THE DIRT AND I DON'T SWING.

AND IT THEY WIND UP CALLING IT A STRIKE.

I'M OUT. DOESN'T MEAN I THINK IT'S A STRIKE OR IT WAS A STRIKE, BUT IT IS WHAT IT IS. HE GIVES US THE LAW, WE MAKE THE BEST DECISIONS WE CAN.

AND I EVEN ASK FOR HIS PERSONAL OPINION.

AND HE'LL NEVER GIVE IT BECAUSE HE SAID THAT'S NOT HIS JOB. HIS JOB IS THE LAW.

ALL RIGHT, THAT'S IT. THAT'S MY THAT'S MY $0.02.

WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THE VOTE. SO THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR IS TO APPROVE WHAT'S IN THE CONSENT CALENDAR AT C 11, RENEWING THE CONTRACT.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE.

OPPOSED? YES, WITH AN EXPLANATION.

OKAY, SO I WANT TO MAKE THIS VERY CLEAR.

THIS IS NOT A VOTE AGAINST JOE LARMER.

I THINK HE'S DOING A WONDERFUL JOB.

HE'S AVAILABLE. IT IS SIMPLY.

I WAS ASKING FOR A LITTLE MORE TIME TO FIND OUT IF THIS IS INDUSTRY STANDARD.

AND SO THAT IS THE REASON FOR MY VOTE.

AND THAT IS THE REASON ALONE.

SO JOE, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.

AND WOULD YOU LIKE TO ABSTAIN ON THE VOTE SINCE YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TIME BECAUSE LEGALLY YOU CAN ABSTAIN? IT DOESN'T MATTER TO ME. I'M JUST TELLING YOU BECAUSE I'VE LEARNED THIS MYSELF MY FIRST YEAR ABOUT ABSTENTION VERSUS A NO VOTE.

I DID IT ON A SECOND AMENDMENT RESOLUTION.

SO IF YOU'D LIKE TO ABSTAIN, YOU CAN. WHAT WOULD QUALIFY FOR AN ABSTENTION? MR. JOE LARMER, IF YOU FEEL YOU NEED MORE TIME.

I MEAN, I BELIEVE THAT'S THE LAW PART.

ESSENTIALLY, YOU CAN ABSTAIN FROM A VOTE IF YOU DON'T FEEL LIKE YOU HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION TO MAKE A VOTE.

OH, I CHANGE MY VOTE, I WILL ABSTAIN.

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ALL RIGHT. LOOK AT THAT.

WORKING TOGETHER. BEAUTIFUL PASSES FOR ZERO WITH AN ABSTENTION FROM SUPERVISOR LONG.

ALL RIGHT, MOVING ON. WE HAVE OUR R5, MISS BURTON.

[R5 Approve a request from Mercy Medical Center for use of Opioid Litigation Settlement Funding and a budget amendment which increases appropriations by $25,000 in the Opioid Settlement Budget (BU 430) offset by use of restricted fund balance (Sponsored by Supervisor Crye).]

SHE'S ALREADY THERE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. GOOD MORNING, CHAIR CRYE. MEMBERS OF THE BOARD AND BURTON DEPUTY COUNTY EXECUTIVE OFFICER.

BEFORE YOU TODAY IS A REQUEST TO DIRECT UP TO $25,000 IN OPIOID SETTLEMENT MONEY TO MERCY MEDICAL CENTER TO SUPPORT THE PARTICIPATION OF SIX RESIDENTS AND TWO FACULTY MEMBERS IN THE UC IRVINE TRAIN NEW TRAINERS PRIMARY CARE PSYCHIATRY FELLOWSHIP.

THIS USE OF OPIOID SETTLEMENT DOLLARS IS ALLOWED AS THIS FELLOWSHIP IS GEARED TOWARDS DIAGNOSING AND TREATING A VARIETY OF MENTAL HEALTH CONDITIONS, INCLUDING SUBSTANCE USE DISORDER.

IN ADDITION TO BEING TRAINED IN THIS AREA, PARTICIPANTS WILL BE TRAINED AS TRAINERS AND BE ABLE TO INCREASE KNOWLEDGE OF MANY PHYSICIANS IN OUR AREA.

AS AN UPDATE TO THE STAFF REPORT, THE COUNTY RECEIVED ADDITIONAL SETTLEMENT PAYMENTS LATE LAST WEEK AND FOLLOWING THE PREPARATION OF THE STAFF REPORT ASSOCIATED WITH THIS ITEM, AND NOW CURRENTLY HAS ABOUT $14.1 MILLION FROM THESE SETTLEMENTS, INCLUDING INTEREST. THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION, AND I'M HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME. THANK YOU SO MUCH, MISS BURTON.

I KNOW WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT. MISS BLANKENSHIP, HOW MANY DO WE HAVE? WE HAVE TWO.

LET'S GO AHEAD AND CALL THOSE UP.

I WILL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THIS ITEM.

WELL, WE HAVE A SPONSOR BY MYSELF.

WILL SECOND BY SUPERVISOR KELSTROM. PUBLIC COMMENT. FIRST UP, MARY RICKERT, FOLLOWED BY DOLORES LUCERO.

GOOD MORNING. GOOD TO SEE ALL OF YOU THIS MORNING.

AND MATT, YOU ARE CORRECT ABOUT THAT PROJECT IN MOUNT SHASTA LAKE CITY.

IF YOU EVER NEED ANY BACKGROUND, I WORKED ON THAT FOR ABOUT SIX YEARS.

THERE'S A LOT OF PROBLEMS WITH NATION. WE HAVE TO KEEP IT TO OUR FIVE.

OKAY. ANYWAY, GIVE ME A CALL.

MATT. I WOULD FIRST LIKE TO PUBLICLY ACKNOWLEDGE THE PASSING OF STEVE MORGAN, FORMER SUPERVISOR FROM DISTRICT FOUR, A FORMER VETERAN AND STRONG SUPPORTER OF TREATMENT FOR VETERANS WHO NEEDED SUBSTANCE ABUSE TREATMENT.

HE STRONGLY SUPPORTED OUR EFFORTS WITH THE CALIFORNIA OPIOID SETTLEMENT MONEY.

I REREAD THE CALIFORNIA OPIOID SETTLEMENT ALLOWABLE EXPENDITURES THE OTHER NIGHT.

I WOULD HIGHLY RECOMMEND THIS BOARD REVISIT THOSE GUIDELINES FOR A BIT OF HISTORY.

FORMER DEPUTY COUNTY COUNSEL JIM ROSS WORKED FOR YEARS TO SECURE THOSE FUNDS FOR OUR COUNTY. I ASSISTED AND ENCOURAGED MR. ROSS BECAUSE MY WORK SINCE 2001 IN THIS COUNTY, IN THE AREA OF MENTAL HEALTH AND SUBSTANCE ABUSE.

I'M EXTREMELY DISAPPOINTED.

THIS BOARD IS NOT MORE AGGRESSIVELY FOCUSING ON TREATMENT OF THOSE WITH ADDICTION ISSUES.

PEOPLE ARE DYING FROM OVERDOSES.

WE HAVE AN ENORMOUS PROBLEM WITH HOMELESSNESS, ADDICTION AND CRIME IN THIS COUNTY ALL DIRECTLY CONNECTED TO ADDICTION ISSUES.

THAT IS WHERE YOU SHOULD BE FOCUSING YOUR ATTENTION.

KEVIN, YOU SAY YOU CARE ABOUT KIDS, SO WHY ARE YOU NOT FOCUSED ON TREATING THEIR PARENTS? ONE OF THE MOST CRITICAL FACTORS FOR A CHILD IS TO HAVE HEALTHY PARENTS, AND THEY NEED THAT FOR THEIR DEVELOPMENT.

SO PLEASE WORK ON TREATING THE ADULTS THAT ARE ON EVERY STREET CORNER IN THIS COUNTY AND IN THIS CITY. IT'S OBVIOUS THIS OPIOID SETTLEMENT MONEY IS BEING USED FOR YOUR OWN PERSONAL CAMPAIGN, MR. CRYE. I KNOW I'M WASTING MY BREATH, BUT DO WHAT'S RIGHT.

FOLLOW THE GUIDELINES AND GET TREATMENT GOING NOW.

THANK YOU, DOLORES LUCERO.

BEFORE YOU COULD TREAT PEOPLE AND HELP PEOPLE WHO ARE ADDICTED TO THE DRUG, YOU NEED TO USE THE MONEY FOR A JAIL BECAUSE HELPING THE PEOPLE WHO ARE MENTALLY ILL.

THOSE PEOPLE ARE VULNERABLE.

THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

MOST OF THEM, BUT A LOT OF THEM ARE ADDICTED TO DRUGS.

BUT I THINK THE JAIL SHOULD HAVE BEEN NUMBER ONE.

NUMBER ONE, BECAUSE THE CRIMINALS ARE MORE DANGEROUS, BECAUSE THE CRIMINALS ARE THE ONES WHO ARE OUT THERE USING DRUGS, SELLING DRUGS. THE OPIUM MONEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN FOCUSED ON THE JAIL.

AND THIS IS ALL ABOUT KEVIN CRYE.

IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH HELPING OTHERS.

THIS IS SOME KIND OF PLATFORM.

SO HE COULD USE DOWN THE ROAD AS A CAMPAIGN.

SO SO THAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE.

WE ALL KNOW WHEN WE SEE KEVIN'S CRYE NO NAME ON THE ITEM.

THEY'RE RED FLAGS. IT'S USUALLY HE'S PROMOTING HIMSELF OR HE IS IS IN IT FOR

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HIMSELF, OR HE'S TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW HE COULD HELP HIMSELF.

I LIKE WHAT MARY SAID EARLIER, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE MINUTES AGO ABOUT HOW COME KEVIN CRYE DOESN'T HELP FAMILIES, THE MOTHERS OF THOSE CHILDREN, BECAUSE IT'S EASY TO TAKE MONEY.

THE REASON WHY HE DOESN'T IS BECAUSE IT'S EASY TO TAKE MONEY FROM VULNERABLE PEOPLE, BECAUSE HE HAS CONTRACTS WITH MULTIPLE SCHOOLS MAKING LOTS OF MONEY EVERY SIX, THREE MONTHS. THAT IT IS.

NO IT'S NOT. IT IS. YOU DON'T HELP OTHERS, THE PARENTS, BECAUSE YOU ABUSE THOSE INNOCENT PEOPLE WHO HAVE MENTAL OR NOT STRONG ENOUGH TO GO UP AGAINST YOU. YOU LIKE PEOPLE WHO ARE WEAK BECAUSE YOU PREYS ON THEM.

JUST. IT IS. IT IS BECAUSE THIS IS ABOUT THE MONEY THAT.

YES, THE MONEY YOU LIKE TO ABUSE PEOPLE.

YOU LIKE THOSE PEOPLE WHO YOU COULD TAKE FROM.

AND WE ALL KNOW THAT EVEN EVEN CHRIS KNOWS THAT.

BUT YET HE SITS THERE AND DOES NOTHING.

OKAY, YOU HAVE TO STICK ON TOPIC.

YEAH, IT IS ON TOP. YOU ALWAYS WANT TO SILENCE ME, SO WHY DON'T YOU? JUST BECAUSE YOU'RE NEVER ON TOPIC, YES I AM. YOU JUST DON'T WANT TO HEAR IT. YOU DON'T WANT TO HEAR WHAT PEOPLE HAVE TO SAY.

YOU WANT. YOU SHOULD HAVE USED THIS MONEY AND FOCUS ON THE JAIL.

BUT YOU DON'T WANT A JAIL.

WE ALREADY KNOW THAT BECAUSE YOU SAID A COUPLE MEETINGS AGO AIN'T GOING TO HAPPEN.

A JAIL AIN'T GOING TO HAPPEN.

WE KNOW THAT. IT'S ALL ABOUT KEVIN CRYE ABUSE OF POWER.

THAT WAS OUR LAST SPEAKER. THAT WAS OUR LAST SPEAKER. OKAY, SO WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON.

I WILL MAKE A COUPLE COMMENTS JUST ABOUT THIS, I BELIEVE, AND I DON'T KNOW, BUT I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THE OPIOID LITIGATION THIS PROCESS STARTED, I'M THINKING SOMETIME AROUND 2016 OR 17.

SO WHEN WE WERE AWARDED THIS, IT WAS, YOU KNOW, YEARS IN THE MAKING. SO IF PAST OR CURRENT SUPERVISORS GOT NOTHING DONE WITH THE MONEY COMING IN THAT'S JUST LACK OF PLANNING.

WHAT I WON'T DO IS I'M NOT JUST GOING TO GO OUT AND SPEND IT LIKE CRAZY, LIKE IT'S SOME TYPE OF INHERITANCE AND WE'RE JUST GOING TO SQUANDER IT. I WANT THIS MONEY.

AND I'VE SAID THIS MULTIPLE TIMES.

I WANT THIS MONEY INVESTED WHERE LONG AFTER THE FIVE OF US AND ALL OF YOU ARE DEAD AND MAYBE 50 OR 100 YEARS, THE IMPACT OF THE DECISIONS WE MAKE WITH THIS MONEY IS STILL MAKING A DIFFERENCE.

THE REASON I BROUGHT SO FAST FORWARD SOMETHING FOR KIDS IS BECAUSE THE KIDS THAT ARE IN SEVENTH AND EIGHTH GRADE RIGHT NOW ARE SOME OF THE MOST AFFECTED BECAUSE OF THE RIDICULOUS COVID LOCKDOWNS AND WHAT THOSE KIDS MISSED DEVELOPMENTALLY.

SO I WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE GOT MONEY TO PERFECT WHAT I BELIEVE, AND THIS BOARD AGREED WAS PERFECT ORGANIZATIONS TO HELP KIDS IN THIS COUNTY GOING FORWARD WITH WHAT WE DO.

EVERY SUPERVISOR HERE CAN BRING ANYTHING FORWARD IF THEY HAVE AN IDEA OF HOW TO INVEST THAT MONEY. SO IT'S NOT ONE PERSON.

SO WE HAVE WE'VE TAKEN A MOTION.

WE HAVE A SECOND. IS THERE ANY OTHER BOARD DISCUSSION? WE'LL TAKE THE VOTE. LET'S DO A ROLL CALL VOTE JUST TO MAKE SURE.

WE'LL START TO MY RIGHT WITH SUPERVISOR. PLUMMER. SURE. SUPERVISOR. PLUMMER. YES.

SUPERVISOR. HARMON. YES.

SUPERVISOR. CRYE. YES.

SUPERVISOR. KELSTROM. YES AND.

SUPERVISOR. LONG YES. THANK YOU.

THAT IS FIVE ZERO. MOVING ON TO OUR.

[R6 Take the following actions: (1) Receive a presentation on the 2024 Shasta County Fire Department Annual Report; (2) receive a compliance report on fire safety inspections (“Report”); and (3) adopt a resolution which certifies the receipt of the Report.]

CHIEF O'HARA THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

GOOD MORNING, CHAIR MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. MY NAME IS SEAN O'HARA. I AM YOUR GUYS'S COUNTY COUNTY. FIRE CHIEF. ALL RIGHT.

TODAY WE ARE GOING TO GO OVER THE ANNUAL REPORT AS AS WE DO PRETTY MUCH EVERY YEAR FOR THE LAST COUPLE YEARS.

WE WAIT UNTIL AFTER THE FISCAL YEAR BECAUSE THAT'S HOW WE COUNT THE NUMBERS, RIGHT? SO ONCE WE GET EVERYTHING DONE I COME BACK AND I DO A PRESENTATION FOR YOU.

SO AT A GLANCE OBVIOUSLY OUR VOLUNTEER STAFF HAS BEEN A SIGNIFICANT HIGHLIGHT OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS. AS WE HAVE GROWN AND, AND REDUCED DEPENDING ON WHAT YEAR IT IS, RIGHT? SO SINCE 2022, WE'VE ACTUALLY INCREASED AND WE ARE HAVING MORE AND MORE VOLUNTEERS RESPOND BECAUSE OF, OF THE, THE PARAMETERS THAT WE'RE PUTTING ON EACH ONE OF THEM.

SO BEFORE THERE WAS NO MINIMUM CALL VOLUME THAT THEY HAD TO MEET AND THERE WAS NO MINIMUM TRAINING HOURS THAT THEY HAD TO MEET.

NOW WE HAVE BOTH AND WE ARE SEEING A RISE IN THE PARTICIPATION WITH OUR VOLUNTEERS.

LAST YEAR, THERE WAS 14,830 883 TOTAL INCIDENTS.

BOTH CAL FIRE AND SHASTA COUNTY FIRE DEPARTMENT RESPONDED TO WITHIN THE SHASTA COUNTY ITSELF, NOT TRINITY COUNTY, BUT HERE.

THE SEC RECEIVED OVER 58,180 TELEPHONE CALLS IN 2024.

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SO A LOT OF THOSE ARE USUALLY OBVIOUSLY EMERGENCY CALLS THAT ARE DOUBLED UP WHICH EQUALS THE 14,000 CALLS.

BUT AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, WHEN THERE'S A COUPLE FIRES HERE AND THERE OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, YOU GET A LOT OF PHONE CALLS, ESPECIALLY OFF OF BUSIER HIGHWAYS.

SO OUT OF THOSE LIKE I CLASSIFIED, 14,000 OF THEM WERE IN SHASTA COUNTY.

THE OTHER 6000 AND CHANGE WERE IN OTHER PLACES THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY, EITHER TO OUR PARTNERS, TO THE NORTH, SOUTH, EAST OR WEST OR INTO TRINITY COUNTY.

THIS IS A SIGNIFICANT ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND, BUT A LOT OF OUR RESOURCES GO UP AND DOWN THE STATE.

SO OUT OF THOSE RESOURCES, WE PROCESSED JUST UNDER 1100 OR JUST OVER 1100 UNITS REQUESTED FOR OUT OF THE OUT OF THE UNIT.

AND WHAT THAT MEANS IS WE'LL USE THE PARK INCIDENT FOR AN EXAMPLE.

IT DIDN'T HIT OUR COUNTY.

IT THREATENED OUR COUNTY, BUT A LOT OF OUR RESOURCES WENT HELPED OUT.

SO HAVING THE ABILITY TO MOVE UP AND DOWN THE STATE IN TOTALITY ACTUALLY HELPS THE STATE, NOT ONLY IN SHASTA COUNTY.

WHEN WE HAVE AN EMERGENCY, THEY BRING FOLKS HERE, BUT WE BRING FOLKS OUTSIDE THE COUNTY AS WELL.

AND THEN OBVIOUSLY OUR, OUR FIRE BUREAU AS YOU GUYS CAN IMAGINE THE COUNTY IS A VERY ACTIVE FIRE COUNTY BOTH WITH INDIVIDUALS THAT SEEK TO PUT HARM INTO THE COUNTY, EITHER THROUGH ARSON OR SOME OTHER FORCE PORTION OF THAT.

BUT WE ALSO HAVE THOSE ACCIDENTAL STARTS, RIGHT? THOSE THINGS THAT PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO DO THE RIGHT THING AND THEY STILL CAUSE A FIRE.

SO EACH ONE OF THOSE FIRES CAUSE SOME TYPE OF FIRE PREVENTION BUREAU ACTIVITY.

SO OUR FIRE PREVENTION BUREAU IS ONE OF THE MOST ACTIVE IN THE STATE AND BOTH THE CRIMINAL ARRESTS. AND THEN ALSO JUST OVERALL LAST YEAR WE HAD 1400 INCIDENTS FOR FIVE PEOPLE. SO IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, FIVE PEOPLE WENT TO OVER 14, 1400 INCIDENTS. OUT OF ALL THOSE 803 REQUIRED LAW ENFORCEMENT ACTIONS.

SO I WOULD SAY THAT'S A PRETTY GOOD ENFORCEMENT THAT WE HAVE FOR OUR FOLKS.

AS SOME OF YOU HAVE CAME TO OUR VOLUNTEER APPRECIATION DINNER, WE'VE HAD A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF FOLKS BETWEEN FIVE YEARS AND 50 YEARS AND 50 YEARS OF SERVICE FOR OUR COUNTY IS A LONG TIME THAT'S SIX YEARS OLDER THAN I AM.

SO AS YOU GUYS CAN IMAGINE, THOSE FOLKS HAVE SEEN A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE OVER THE LAST 50 YEARS IN THE COUNTY FIRE DEPARTMENT.

WITH THAT, SOME OF THOSE FOLKS HAVE RETIRED AND THAT'S A HUGE LOSS, BUT THEY'VE ALSO DONE EVERYTHING THEY POSSIBLY COULD FOR OUR COUNTY.

THE VOLUNTEER DISPATCHERS VERSUS RESPONSE.

SO THIS HAS ALWAYS BEEN ONE OF THOSE TOPICS THAT YOU GUYS ARE GOING, HEY, WHAT, HOW MANY OF, OF THE CALLS DO OUR VOLUNTEERS ACTUALLY GO TO? SO THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS WE'VE BEEN ADDING THIS INTO OUR ANNUAL REPORT, AND IT'S SHOWING HOW MANY OF THOSE ARE ACCURATELY GOING TO EACH ONE OF THOSE INCIDENTS. AND SO THAT IS PAINTING A BETTER PICTURE FOR EACH ONE OF YOUR GUYS'S DISTRICTS ON HOW ACTIVE YOUR VOLUNTEER DISTRICT IS.

AND TRULY THE FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE, THE ACTIVITY PORTION OF IT IS, IS WHERE WE HAVE TO REPORT BECAUSE THE SENATE BILL 1205 AND THOSE ARE ALL THE NUMBERS ON THE LEFT THERE. AND THEN THIS IS WHERE I OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS AND I'M OPEN FOR ANYTHING. ALL RIGHT. WELL, I APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION.

WE DON'T LOOK LIKE WE DON'T.

SUPERVISOR. HARMON. OH, NOT NOT REALLY A QUESTION, BUT JUST A LITTLE. COULD YOU JUST TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE, MOSTLY FOR THE PEOPLE ABOUT THE YOUR POLICE SIDE? YEAH. SO ALL OF OUR OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT FOLKS ARE ACTUALLY POST CERTIFIED AND THEY GO DOWN AND SPEND ABOUT SIX MONTHS DOWN IN IONE WHERE THEY GO THROUGH A WHOLE REGULAR POST CERTIFICATION AND THEY GET DISPATCHED TO A WIDE VARIETY OF, OF CALLS, MAINLY FOR INVESTIGATION, BUT ALSO THE LAW ENFORCEMENT SIDE.

AND WE WORK HAND IN HAND WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, REDDING PD, AND ANY OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY WITHIN SHASTA AND TRINITY COUNTY.

OUR FOLKS HISTORICALLY HAVE LED A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF ARREST DUE TO ARSONS, AND THEY ARE A FANTASTIC GROUP.

OUR GROUP HERE IS IS ON A LOT OF OUR LEADING CADRES THROUGHOUT THE STATE, AND I TAKE PRIDE IN THAT BECAUSE OUR GUYS HERE WITHIN SHASTA COUNTY ARE LEADING THE NUMBERS AND THE PEOPLE WITHIN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA.

YEAH. SO AND SHERIFF JOHNSON HAS HE HAS SOME OF THE SAME SERVICE, BUT IT'S NOT QUITE THE SAME, BUT IT'S THE SAME KIND OF TRAINING.

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CORRECT. EXACTLY THE SAME TRAINING. SO I WAS TRYING TO SEPARATE THE PEOPLE MIGHT THINK THAT WHEN IT'S AN INVESTIGATION OF LAW AND INVESTIGATION THAT IT MIGHT BE.

BUT YOU ALREADY HAVE YOUR YOU HAVE YOUR OWN.

YEAH. AND WORKING WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND RPD AND ALL THE OTHER FOLKS HERE WITHIN SHASTA COUNTY, THEY HAVE A FANTASTIC WORKING RELATIONSHIP, AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, BECAUSE THEY SEE EACH OTHER ON A WIDE VARIETY OF CALLS THAT HELPS WHEN WHEN STUFF HITS THE FAN.

RIGHT. SO WHEN, WHEN OTHER AGENCIES NEED BACKUP AND OUR FOLKS ARE AVAILABLE TO BACK THEM UP AND VICE VERSA.

IT HAPPENS WITHOUT A BEAT.

I MEAN, I MEAN, IT HAPPENS INSTANTLY.

SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

SUPERVISOR. PLUMMER LAST QUESTION.

IT LOOKS LIKE. YEAH. TWO QUICK RELATED QUESTIONS.

ONE IS IN TERMS OF THAT NUMBER OF INCIDENTS, WHICH IT LOOKED LIKE WAS ABOUT 14,000.

HOW HAS THAT BEEN TRENDING OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS? IS THAT GOING UP OR DOWN? AND RELATED WITH THE RESPONSE RATE OF VOLUNTEERS, WHICH IS ALMOST 50%, IS THAT GONE UP OR DOWN IN THE LAST FEW YEARS? YEAH. ON THE RESPONSE SIDE DURING COVID, IT ACTUALLY WENT DOWN TO A CERTAIN DEGREE.

AND THEN WE'VE HAD A TREND EVER SINCE THEN THAT'S GOING UP.

AND WITH THAT, THE RESPONSES DEPENDING ON THE COMPANY HAVE EITHER GONE UP OR DOWN.

BUT I WOULD SAY THAT THOSE ARE PRETTY ACCURATE NUMBERS OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS. IT'S BETWEEN WHAT I SHOWED YOU IN ABOUT 57% SOMEWHERE RIGHT AROUND THERE.

THERE'S JUST SO EVERYBODY'S CLEAR. THERE'S ALWAYS SOMEBODY THAT GOES TO THOSE INCIDENTS ON THE ON THE PAID SIDE.

RIGHT. BUT OUR VOLUNTEERS ARE ALWAYS IT'S UP TO THEM IF THEY WANT TO GO.

YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY HAS A JOB AND THE DEMANDS OF CALL VOLUMES ARE, ARE INCREASING ON OUR, ON OUR FOLKS AND WE ARE GETTING LESS AND LESS VOLUNTEERS. THAT'S WHY WE, WE RECENTLY CHANGED THE NAME TO A PAID CALL FIREFIGHTER. AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE COUNTY COUNCIL AND, AND PERSONNEL ON SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT HAVE POPPED UP, HOPEFULLY TO ENTICE MORE PEOPLE TO BECOME A PCEF RIGHT PAID CALL FIREFIGHTER, BECAUSE PEOPLE DID NOT THINK THAT THEY GOT PAID TO BE A VOLUNTEER.

SO WE'RE TRYING TO REBRAND IT TO WHERE IT YOU ARE GETTING MORE PEOPLE HOPEFULLY BECAUSE THEY'RE GETTING PAID, THEY WERE ALWAYS GETTING PAID. BUT THOSE ARE ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT IT'S A REBRANDING.

PEOPLE THINK WHEN YOU'RE A VOLUNTEER THAT YOU'RE NOT GETTING PAID.

WE PAY FOR THEM GOING ON CALLS.

WE PAY FOR THEIR TRAINING, WE PAY FOR TRAVEL DISTANCE.

SO ALL THOSE THINGS LINE UP WITH PCS.

SO THANKS. THANK YOU. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION.

ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION BY SUPERVISOR KELSTROM KELSTROM TO APPROVE.

WE HAVE A SECOND BY SUPERVISOR PLUMMER.

WAS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THIS? MISS BLANKENSHIP? YES, CHAIR. WE HAVE WE HAVE ONE PUBLIC COMMENT. DON DUCKETT.

ALL RIGHT. SHOULD WE CHANGE THE TIME FROM 8 MINUTES TO 3 MINUTES? DON'T GET TOO EXCITED, DON. IT'S NOT EIGHT MINUTES. IT'S THREE. THIS WON'T EVEN TAKE THREE MINUTES.

OKAY. I WANT TO DON DUCKETT.

I'M A COTTONWOOD RESIDENT, AND I'VE LIVED OUT IN WEST COTTONWOOD FOR 22 YEARS. DURING THAT TIME, I HAVE HAD TO MYSELF CALL 9113 DIFFERENT OCCASIONS. AND ON TWO OF THOSE OCCASIONS IT WAS SERIOUS INJURIES AND THE WEST VALLEY VOLUNTEER STATION, OR I'M NOT QUITE SURE THE EXACT WHAT THEY'RE CALLED.

WE CALL THEM COTTONWOOD VOLUNTEER FIRE.

THEY ARE ALWAYS THE FIRST ONES TO SHOW UP BEFORE THE AMBULANCE GETS THERE, BEFORE FIRE GETS THERE.

AND I JUST WANTED TO GIVE A TESTIMONIAL OF HOW VALUABLE THAT IS.

I HAD A SERIOUS HEAD INJURY AND A SHATTERED ANKLE, AND FRED WYCKOFF, OUR FIRE CHIEF AT THE TIME, SHOWED UP IN HIS LITTLE RED TRUCK, EXAMINED ME, STABILIZED ME, CALMED ME DOWN.

AND TO HAVE A NEIGHBOR THAT SOMEONE THAT, YOU KNOW, SHOW UP, THAT YOU KNOW, IS TRAINED IS SO VALUABLE.

AND ALL OF MY NEIGHBORS HAVE A STORY JUST LIKE I'VE TOLD YOU.

THAT BEING SAID, AT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD NIGHT OUT LAST TUESDAY NIGHT, COTTONWOOD FIRE GOT UP AND TOLD THE COMMUNITY THAT THEY'RE VERY CLOSE TO FOLDING AND THEY SEEM TO THINK IT'S BECAUSE OF THE REBRANDING THAT SEAN JUST SPOKE ABOUT.

AND CHANGING IT TO PAID CALL, BECAUSE MOST OF THEM ARE CALPERS ANNUITANTS, AND THEY FEEL LIKE THEIR PENSIONS MIGHT BE AT RISK.

HOWEVER, IN TALKING TO SEAN, IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S JUST A MISUNDERSTANDING WITH THE VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT AND SPEAKING TO SEVERAL OF THE FIREFIGHTERS AND SEAN. I'M PICKING UP THAT THERE MIGHT BE A RIFT OF SOME SORT BETWEEN THE VOLUNTEERS AND CAL FIRE. YOU KNOW, THE VOLUNTEERS FEEL LIKE THEY WANT MORE LOCAL CONTROL,

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AND THEY FEEL A LITTLE BIT STIFLED OVER SOME OF THE STATE REGULATIONS.

AND SO I'M JUST I WANT TO ENCOURAGE THE BOARD, IF YOU CAN, ESPECIALLY OUR DISTRICT FIVE SUPERVISOR, TO STEP IN AND MAYBE BRIDGE, CREATE SOME BRIDGES BETWEEN CAL FIRE AND THE VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT, BECAUSE THIS IS A VERY VALUABLE RESOURCE THAT A LOT OF TIMES DIMINISHES THE NEED FOR PAID, YOU KNOW, FULL ON PAID, COUNTY PAID FOR RESOURCES.

THE VOLUNTEERS ARE PAID A STIPEND, BUT IT'S MINIMAL.

AND LIKE I SAID, ALL OF MY NEIGHBORS WERE SHOCKED TO HEAR THE NEWS FROM THE VOLUNTEERS THAT THEY THINK THAT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO CLOSE.

SO IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT YOU CAN DO TO STEP IN AND MAYBE BE A LIAISON BETWEEN CAL FIRE AND THEM, THAT WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SUPERVISOR.

CHAIR. CAN I THROW SOMETHING IN ON THAT? IN RESPONSE TO DON DON'S STATEMENT.

SO WE'RE WORKING WITH CENTERVILLE.

THEY'RE FACING THE SAME ISSUES RIGHT NOW. CENTERVILLE FIRE DEPARTMENT, LACK OF VOLUNTEERS AND FUTURE OF THE DEPARTMENT.

WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN OUT THERE? AND I WILL SAY THAT I'VE SPOKEN WITH SEAN ABOUT THIS, AND HE HAS COMMITTED HIS NUMBER TWO TO COME OUT AND MEET WITH ME AND THE COMMUNITY GROUP OUT THERE TO TALK ABOUT THE FUTURE OF THE FIRE.

AND I LOVE THE IDEA OF THE REBRANDING BECAUSE WE HAVE TO BRIDGE THIS GAP.

AND SO, DON, WE ARE TAKING STEPS TO TO DO THAT, TO BRING CAL FIRE IN WITH THE LOCAL VOLUNTEER FOLKS.

AND WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT. I THINK I THINK I'VE GOT AN APPOINTMENT NEXT WEEK OR WE'RE MEETING OUT THERE NEXT WEEK. CORRECT. SO THANK YOU, SEAN. AND THANK YOU, DON, FOR THE COMMENTS.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION.

WE HAVE A SECOND. ANY OTHER BOARD DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. WE'LL JUST TAKE IT ALL AT ONE TIME.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE.

OPPOSED. HEARING NONE.

FIVE ZERO. ALL RIGHT. PERFECT.

AND THEN ONE LAST THING. IN ORDER TO GET VOLUNTEERS, PCS. IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO BE A VOLUNTEER.

PCEF, AS JEN TELLS ME, I LOOK AT THE CAMERA AND SAY, ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO BE A PCF FOR CAL FIRE OR SHASTA COUNTY FIRE DEPARTMENT, PLEASE DIAL 2252418. THANK YOU.

AND THERE'S SOME SHERIFF DEPUTIES HERE, TOO. MAYBE YOU CAN GET THEM TO BE VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT. OKAY. THANKS. OKAY.

OKAY. OKAY, SO HERE'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO.

WE HAVE WE HAVE QUITE A FEW PUBLIC SPEAKERS, SO WE'RE GOING TO, WE'RE GOING TO DO OUR SIX BEFORE LUNCH.

WE HAVE, I'M SORRY, R SEVEN BEFORE LUNCH.

WE HAVE 12 SPEAKERS. I'M GOING TO ASK PEOPLE TO PLEASE GET IN QUEUE SO WE CAN MOVE THIS BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF SPEAKERS FOR CLOSED SESSION AS WELL.

AND WE DO HAVE TO TAKE A HARD BREAK, I BELIEVE.

IS IT ABOUT 1230 FOR CLOSED SESSION? MISS BLANKENSHIP THAT MEANS WE HAVE TO TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT BEFORE THAT. IS THAT CORRECT TO YOU, CHAIR? WE NO LONGER HAVE.

SO WE DON'T HAVE THAT RESTRICTION ANYMORE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO

[R7 Adopt a resolution which waives Section 6.12 of the Shasta County Personnel Rules, appoints Christy Coleman as the Health and Human Services Agency Director effective August 13, 2025, and establishes Ms. Coleman’s compensation at the C-step salary range ($95.096 per hour/$16,483 per month).]

R SEVEN AND WE'RE GOING TO ROLL WITH THAT.

SO OKAY MISS FUGITT OKAY, THANK YOU.

CHAIR CRYE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. MONICA FUGITT DIRECTOR OF SUPPORT SERVICES AS YOU'RE AWARE, EARLIER THIS YEAR, FORMER HHS DIRECTOR LAURA BURCH ANNOUNCED HER RETIREMENT EFFECTIVE AUGUST 1ST, 2025, TO ENSURE CONTINUOUS OPERATIONS DURING THE TRANSITION. CHRISTY COLEMAN WAS APPOINTED AS THE INTERIM HHS DIRECTOR EFFECTIVE MAY 13TH, 2025, AT THE DIRECTION OF THE BOARD.

THE ITEM BEFORE YOU TODAY FOR CONSIDERATION IS THE ADOPTION OF A RESOLUTION APPOINTING CHRISTY COLEMAN AS HHS DIRECTOR, EFFECTIVE AUGUST 13TH, 2025. THE RESOLUTION, IF APPROVED, WOULD WAIVE SECTION 6.12 OF THE PERSONNEL RULES AS THE POSITION IN CONNECTION WITH MAKING A DIRECT APPOINTMENT TO THE POSITION WOULD ESTABLISH HER SALARY AT THE C STEP OF THE SALARY RANGE, WHICH IS $95.09 PER HOUR, OR $16,483 PER MONTH.

THIS IS THE SAME STEP SHE WAS PLACED AT WHEN APPOINTED AS THE INTERIM HHS DIRECTOR.

HER SALARY STEP REMAINS UNCHANGED.

WITH THE PERMANENT APPOINTMENT, THE HHS DIRECTOR OCCUPIES THE FOLLOWING STATUTORY OFFICES PUBLIC GUARDIAN DIRECTOR OF SOCIAL SERVICES AND THE DIRECTOR OF MENTAL SERVICES, MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES.

EXCUSE ME. MISS COLEMAN SATISFIES THE REQUIREMENTS TO HOLD THOSE OFFICES AND SERVE AS THE HHS DIRECTOR, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THOSE APPLICABLE TO THE DIRECTOR OF MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES. HOWEVER, SHE HAS BEEN APPROVED BY THE STATE TO SERVE AS THE DIRECTOR OF MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES FOR A 12 MONTH PERIOD.

SHE HOLDS A BACHELOR'S DEGREE IN BUSINESS MANAGEMENT AND MASTER'S DEGREE IN PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION, HAS SERVED PREVIOUSLY IN THE ROLES OF DIRECTOR OF HOUSING AND COMMUNITY ACTION AGENCY, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF CHILD SUPPORT SERVICES, INTERIM DIRECTOR OF CHILD SUPPORT SERVICES, AND FROM DECEMBER 2022 UNTIL MAY 2025, SERVED AS THE HHS ASSISTANT DIRECTOR.

WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO CEO RICKERT FOR ANYTHING ELSE HE'D LIKE TO ADD REGARDING THE APPOINTMENT. OKAY, THANK YOU MONICA.

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AND JUST FOR THE EDIFICATION OF THE AUDIENCE AND SOMETHING I'VE TALKED ABOUT AT LENGTH WITH THE BOARD MEMBERS CHRISTIE HAS BEEN VERY ACTIVE IN A NUMBER OF ROLES.

WHICH LEADS ME TO BRING IN, MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION TO PUT CHRISTINA'S POSITION FIRST AND FOREMOST WAS DEALING WITH THE BUDGET ISSUES.

WE HAD A NUMBER OF BUDGET ISSUES THAT CHRISTIE'S BEEN ABLE TO RESOLVE AND WORK WITH. THERE'S STILL A LOT OF WORK THAT REMAINS TO BE DONE, BUT SHE'S DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB WORKING WITH STAFF ON THOSE ISSUES.

SHE'S WORKED AT LENGTH WITH ME AND MONICA AND RESOLVING PERSONNEL AND MORALE ISSUES WITHIN THE OFFICE. THERE'S STILL CHALLENGES THERE, BUT WE ARE WORKING VERY CONSISTENTLY TO BUILD MORALE IN THAT OFFICE, TO WORK WITH STAFF TO MAKE IT A GREAT PLACE TO WORK AND ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO COME BACK TO WORK THERE.

SHE'S WORKED VERY DILIGENTLY ON THE NEWLY MINTED VETERANS HOMELESS PROGRAM AND A NUMBER OF OTHER TASKS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT POSITION.

SHE'S GOT A VERY GOOD CAN DO ATTITUDE.

SHE'S VERY SMART, SHE'S VERY ENERGETIC, AND SHE'S WELL LIKED WITH THE PEOPLE THAT I'VE WORKED WITH HER ON THAT PROJECT.

SO THAT'S MY RECOMMENDATION TO THIS BOARD IS THAT WE MAKE THAT APPOINTMENT TO THAT POSITION. THANK YOU. AND THEN HOW MANY PUBLIC COMMENTS DO WE HAVE? WE HAVE 12. CHAIR. HEY.

HEY, GUYS. WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK ABOUT HAVING SOME BOARD DISCUSSION NOW? BECAUSE THAT WAY I THINK IT MIGHT HELP SOME PUBLIC COMMENT IF PEOPLE ARE GOING TO COME UP AND SPEAK. ARE YOU GUYS OPEN TO THAT? SUPERVISOR. OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

WHO WANTS TO GO FIRST IN QUEUE? SUPERVISOR. PLUMMER. I WAS JUST GUESSING BECAUSE YOU'RE YOU'RE YOU'RE SCREEN STILL BROKE, RIGHT? YEAH. OKAY.

SURE. ONE SECOND. HE ALREADY WORE IT OUT.

YEAH. SO I THINK WHEN I WAS THINKING ABOUT THIS THE I WAS THINKING ABOUT WHAT ARE THE, WHAT ARE THE QUALITIES THAT I THINK ARE IMPORTANT AND AN HHS DIRECTOR, OBVIOUSLY, IT'S A HUGE TASK AND SOMETHING THAT IS SUPER IMPORTANT TO THE BENEFIT OF OUR COMMUNITY. AND I WAS THINKING THAT THERE'S, THERE'S FOUR THINGS THAT I AM YOU KNOW, LOOKING FOR AND THAT I, YOU KNOW, WOULD WANT TO BE CHARACTERISTIC OF THE HHC DIRECTOR. THE FIRST IS COLLABORATIVE.

AND SO THAT I THINK, YOU KNOW, HE CAN'T GET THAT MUCH DONE ON ITS OWN, EVEN AS IT WAS TALKING ABOUT MENTAL HEALTH, THAT WE'RE SERVING ABOUT 3000 OF THE COMMUNITY. BUT WE HAVE COMMUNITY PROVIDERS THAT ARE SERVING SO MANY.

AND SO THAT THEY'RE WORKING WITH COMMUNITY PARTNERS TO GET THINGS DONE.

THE SECOND, BECAUSE OF THE CHALLENGES INHERENT WITH WHAT'S HAPPENING IN TERMS OF JUST REVENUE AND EXPENSES, IS THAT WE ARE ON TOP OF THE FINANCIAL PICTURE AND THAT THERE'S TRANSPARENCY THERE, AND THAT WE'RE GETTING AHEAD OF THINGS AND PROJECTING WHERE THINGS ARE GOING TO GO, AND THEN TAKING PROACTIVE STEPS TO YOU KNOW, STAY IN A HEALTHY POSITION.

THE THIRD IS THAT THERE'S A VISION FOR SEEING THE HEALTH OF OUR COMMUNITY IMPROVED.

AND THAT IS KIND OF HOLISTIC THAT THERE'S ENERGY TO SAY, OKAY, HOW DO WE ADDRESS SOME OF THESE THINGS LIKE SUICIDE OR LIKE HOMELESSNESS WHERE WE ARE, YOU KNOW, NOT WHERE WE WANT TO BE CURRENTLY.

AND THEN THE LAST ONE THAT THAT I WOULD SAY IS THAT THERE'S AN INTEREST IN MAKING DATA DRIVEN DECISION MAKING AND USING EVIDENCE TO DRIVE DECISIONS.

AND SO AS I'VE THOUGHT ABOUT THESE FOUR, I'VE SEEN OVER THE LAST DEFINITELY SINCE I STARTED ON THE BOARD, BUT EVEN A BIT BEFORE THAT, I FEEL LIKE SEEING THOSE CHARACTERISTICS IN CHRISTY AND I WOULD SAY IN INCREASING MEASURE.

AND JUST A FEW EXAMPLES OF THAT, I THINK THERE ARE ON THE COLLABORATIVE PIECE, THERE HAS BEEN AROUND PROPOSITION ONE, WORKING WITH A LOT OF THE COMMUNITY PARTNERS TO FIGURE OUT WHAT ARE OUR NEEDS THERE.

WHAT YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT COULD ACTUALLY SERVE THE COMMUNITY ON THE FINANCIAL PIECE, BRINGING IN SOME EXTRA, YOU KNOW, EXPERTS ON THE TOPIC TO FIGURE OUT WHAT YOU KNOW, WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE IN PARTICULAR IN THE SOCIAL SECURITY ADMINISTRATION THERE. I HAD ASKED FOR A FIVE YEAR PROJECTION OF WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE IN THE BUDGET HEARINGS, AND THAT WAS PRESENTED. THE CONVICTION SEEING US BE PROACTIVE IN TERMS OF GOING AFTER SOME OF THESE ISSUES, HAVE A MEETING THIS WEEK ON, ON A SUICIDE FATALITY REVIEW TEAM.

AND THEN ONE PIECE ON THE DATA IS WHEN I, I HAD ATTENDED A FEW OF THE MENTAL HEALTH ALCOHOL AND DRUG ADVISORY BOARD MEETINGS PRIOR TO BEING ON THE BOARD.

AND THERE'S ALWAYS A DIRECTOR'S REPORT.

AND PREVIOUSLY THERE WAS 1 OR 2 DATA POINTS THERE THAT WERE KIND OF, IN MY OPINION, A LITTLE HARD TO UNDERSTAND OR PUT INTO CONTEXT.

AND SINCE OVER THE LAST SIX MONTHS, THAT'S BEEN A DRAMATIC DIFFERENCE.

IF YOU'RE ABLE TO GET AHOLD OF THAT, YOU CAN SEE REALLY RICH UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT OF THOSE WHO WERE SERVING AND HOW WE'RE SERVING THEM.

AND THERE'S ON ALL OF THESE, I'D SAY THERE'S A LOT MORE WORK TO BE DONE, BUT I'VE SEEN PROGRESS ON ALL OF THOSE FRONTS.

AND SO I WOULD SUPPORT THIS THE CEO'S RECOMMENDATION TO NOMINATE CHRISTIE FOR THIS

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POSITION. IS THAT A MOTION? I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION. OKAY.

WE HAVE A MOTION BY SUPERVISOR PLUMMER TO ACCEPT A SECOND BY SUPERVISOR HARMON SUPERVISOR LONG. FIRST QUESTION IS FOR.

THANK YOU, CHAIR. FIRST QUESTION IS FOR COUNCIL.

DO I HAVE THE RIGHT TO SHARE MY VOTE FROM CLOSED WHEN THIS CAME BEFORE US.

A WHILE BACK. YOU CAN TALK ABOUT WHAT? WHAT THE VOTE WAS IN CLOSED, BUT YOU'RE FREE TO HAVE THE OPEN DISCUSSION HERE, SO I'M NOT SURE WHY WHY YOU NEED TO, BUT YOU CAN.

OH, OKAY. WELL IT'S SOMETHING THAT I PERSONALLY BROUGHT UP AND CLOSED, AND IT'S CONSISTENT WITH WHERE I'M THINKING AT THIS POINT.

AND IT'S MUCH LIKE THE ISSUE WITH MR. LARMORE, THIS IS NOT THIS IS NOT A REFLECTION ON MISS COLEMAN BY ANY STRETCH.

SHE'S CAPABLE. SHE'S LEARNING THE JOB.

SHE'S FAIRLY NEW IN THE JOB A COUPLE OF YEARS.

BUT WHEN I TALKED WITH HER, SHE REMINDED ME THAT SHE HAD EIGHT YEARS IN HOUSING AND SHE ALSO WORKED IN CHILD SUPPORT.

SO SHE SHE DOES HAVE EXPERIENCE IN THE DEPARTMENT, BUT I DO BELIEVE IN THE PROCESS OF GOING TO AN OUTSIDE RECRUITMENT AND THAT IS NOT CONNECTED WITH HER. I THINK, YOU KNOW, SHE COULD DO VERY WELL IN THIS RECRUITMENT PROCESS AND RISE TO THE TOP.

AND THEN THEN SHE WOULD EARN THAT POSITION THAT WAY AS WELL.

I HAVE NO NO DOUBT THAT'S A VERY STRONG POSSIBILITY.

BUT WE HAVE HAD SIGNIFICANT PROBLEMS AND CEO RICKERT ITERATED A LITTLE BIT OF THAT.

AND IT'S BEEN WITH BUDGET AND SOME OF THE INTERNAL PROCESSES AND MORALE AND ALL THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. IT'S A HUGE SHIP TO TURN AROUND.

AND IF WE APPOINT CHRISTIE TODAY, I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH HER TO HELP REMEDY THAT. BUT I DO BELIEVE IN THE RECRUITMENT PROCESS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THE BEST PERSON FOR THIS POSITION, THIS VERY IMPORTANT POSITION, ESPECIALLY GIVEN SOME OF THE TROUBLED PAST THAT WE'VE HAD WITH THAT.

SO WE DO THAT FOR OTHER ALL OF OUR OTHER POSITIONS, WHETHER IT'S CEO, COUNTY COUNCIL.

WE ARE THE MOST RECENT, WHICH IS A REGISTRAR OF VOTERS CLERK.

AND WE OPENED THAT UP TO A FULL RECRUITMENT AND DID A FULL INTERVIEW.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S GOING TO BE MY STICKING POINT IS THAT AS I VOTED IN CLOSED, WHICH I'M FREE TO DISCUSS AND I'M GOING TO VOTE TODAY.

I AM IN FAVOR OF A RECRUITMENT AND ENCOURAGE MISS COLEMAN TO PUT IN.

AND LIKE I SAY THIS IS JUST, IT'S JUST PROCESS FOR ME, THE BEST BUSINESS PRACTICE TO GET THE MOST QUALIFIED.

AND I LOOK FORWARD TO YEARS OF WORKING WITH CHRISTIE.

IF THIS BOARD APPOINTS TODAY.

THANK YOU. SUPERVISOR LONG SUPERVISOR PLUMMER. YOU SAID YOU HAD ONE OTHER COMMENT.

YEAH, I WAS JUST GOING TO ALSO ADD THAT THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF TRANSITION IN THE DEPARTMENT OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS.

AND SO, AND ALSO THEN, YOU KNOW, ALMOST TEN MONTHS OF CHRISTIE ACTING IN AN INTERIM OR ACTING ROLE, YOU KNOW, MOVING BETWEEN THAT. AND SO I THINK WHILE THERE'S A LOT OF WORK TO BE DONE TO CONTINUE TO IMPROVE, YOU KNOW, BOTH THE OPERATIONS OF THE DEPARTMENT AND THE BENEFIT THAT'S DELIVERED TO THE COMMUNITY, I THINK CREATING STABILITY RATHER THAN OPENING UP TO A RECRUITMENT PROCESS AND ALLOWING, YOU KNOW, THERE TO BE A SENSE OF, OKAY, WE'RE WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD NOW WITH THIS WILL BE BENEFICIAL.

THANK YOU. YEAH. SUPERVISOR.

HARMON. SO RECENTLY I HAD THE EXPERIENCE, NOT A VERY GOOD EXPERIENCE OF IN MY BUSINESS, TRYING TO HIRE SOMEBODY IN A KEY POSITION.

AND WE WENT TO A HIRING AGENCY.

THERE WAS ABOUT 200 APPLICANTS THAT FIT THE DESCRIPTION WE HAD.

WE BOILED IT DOWN TO A DOZEN AND THEN BOILED IT DOWN EVEN A LITTLE MORE TO FOUR.

AND THEN WHEN WE SET UP THE DAY OF INTERVIEWS, TWO OF THEM BACKED OUT.

AND THEN WE. SO WE'RE DOWN TO TWO.

ONE OF THEM SHOWED UP AND ONE OF THEM DIDN'T.

AND THEN THE EXPERIENCE WITH THE INTERVIEW WITH THE ONE WOULD MAKE YOUR EYES ROLL BACK IN YOUR HEAD, AND I. I'M AN ADVOCATE OF BRINGING SOMEBODY UP IN THE RANKS THAT DESERVES IT. NOT IF THEY DON'T DESERVE IT.

AND I'M, I'M LETTING CHRISTY KNOW RIGHT NOW I'M GOING TO BE SUPPORTING VOTING FOR CHRISTY. I THINK THAT THE EXPERIENCES THERE I'VE, I HAD A PROJECT. MY WIFE ALWAYS SAYS, DON'T TELL STORIES.

I GOT TO TELL A QUICK STORY.

I GOT SENT A PROJECT MANAGER TO ME ON A HUGE PROJECT.

MY BOSS SAID, HEY, I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW I'M SENDING YOU THIS GUY.

AND HE'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT, BUT HE'S REALLY GOOD AT THE PAPERWORK.

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AND HE SAYS HE'S BUT I'M GOING TO KEEP HIM IN THE OFFICE TO DO ALL THE PAPERWORK.

HE'S NOT GOING TO GO OUT IN THE FIELD AND RUN THE JOB. THAT'S YOUR JOB. BUT HE SAYS, I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT HE'S A LITTLE BACKGROUND.

HE SAID HE'S ACTUALLY A PSYCHOLOGIST WITH HIS DEGREE.

I HOPE YOU HAVE A LITTLE PSYCHOLOGY IN YOUR IN YOUR BACKGROUND, BUT I THOUGHT, GREAT, I'M GETTING A PSYCHOLOGIST ON A CONSTRUCTION PROJECT TO HELP ME WITH THIS.

AND YEARS LATER, I KEPT TELLING MY BOSS, YOU KNOW, THAT DEGREE REALLY DID FIT BECAUSE IT REALLY IS ABOUT YOUR YOUR PERSONNEL SKILLS.

IT'S REALLY ABOUT HOW YOU CAN HANDLE, MOTIVATE PICK, CHOOSE AND WORK WITH THE PEOPLE AROUND YOU TO DEVELOP A TEAM AND GET EVERYBODY TO WORK FOR YOU, WITH YOU AND TOGETHER.

AND SO I APPRECIATE THAT.

AND I'M GOING TO, I'M GOING TO BE SUPPORTING YOU, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING WHAT YOU CAN DO. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

SUPERVISOR. HARMON. ALL.

SUPERVISOR. KELSTROM. OH, I'LL JUST I'LL WEIGH IN JUST REALLY QUICK.

THE ONE THING AND I KIND OF STOPPED LOOKING, BUT THERE WAS OVER TEN COUNTIES THAT HAD LESS EMPLOYEES IN THEIR ENTIRE COUNTY THAN WE HAVE JUST IN H H AYE SO HHS AYE IN SHASTA COUNTY, LIKE MANY OTHERS, IT'S A IT'S A MONSTER OF AN ORGANIZATION.

THERE'S OVER HALF ACTUAL OUR BUDGET AND OVER HALF ESSENTIALLY RIGHT AT HALF THE AMOUNT OF EMPLOYEES. I'VE OFTEN SAID I THINK IT SHOULD BE BROKEN BACK UP.

THE DECISION WAS MADE YEARS AGO TO CONSOLIDATE A LOT OF THINGS INTO HHS AYE I WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS, BUT FOR THE MOST PART I KNOW CEO RICKERT SPEAKS VERY HIGHLY OF THE WORKING RELATIONSHIP, THE CHANGES BEING MADE, AND I'M EXCITED ABOUT WHAT'S THE NAME OF THAT DEPARTMENT THAT GOT PULLED INTO THE CIO'S OFFICE, WHICH I THINK IS VERY NECESSARY.

YEAH, IT'S THE PRIVACY TEAM.

YEAH. THE PRIVACY TEAM.

I THINK THERE'S HUGE STRIDES IN THAT.

AND I SEE ALL OF OUR ANALYSTS IN THE FRONT ROW NODDING.

YES. AND I KNOW CHRISTY HAS BEEN CHAMPIONING THAT. SO WITH THAT I THINK WE'LL MOVE TO PUBLIC COMMENT. PLEASE GET INTO QUEUE SO WE CAN MOVE THIS ALONG.

FIRST UP, LORI BRIDGFORD, FOLLOWED BY ERIN WATTS, THEN TERESA LESLIE AND TROY PAYNE.

THANK YOU FOR HAVING THAT DISCUSSION. PREVIOUSLY, YOU BROUGHT UP A LOT OF THE CONCERNS AND QUESTIONS I WAS HAVING.

IT'S NEVER EASY WHEN SOMEBODY HAS TO BE THE FILL IN OR THE INTERIM.

THEY DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN UNTIL IT HAPPENS, AND THEY HAVE TO DO THEIR VERY BEST IN A PINCH AND WHATNOT.

SO I'M CONCERNED ABOUT, I MEAN, WHEN I FIRST SAW IT, I THOUGHT IT WAS A TYPO FOR THE MONTHLY $16,483.

LIKE MOST PEOPLE WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE SHOW YOUR WORK.

WHAT KIND OF EVIDENCE DEMONSTRATES THAT THAT POSITION WARRANTS THAT THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY AND BENEFITS OR WHATEVER ELSE? AND IT WOULD HAVE BEEN GREAT TO HAVE A OPEN INTERVIEWS AND THINGS THAT WE SAW WITH THE ROV, BECAUSE YOU GET TO SEE A LOT IN THAT KIND OF QUESTIONS AND THAT FORMAT.

AND SO I'VE NOT HEARD ANY COMPLAINTS OR PROBLEMS WITH CHRISTY COLEMAN.

I WOULDN'T WANT TO BE THE PENSION PERSON AND FIGURE IT OUT.

AND OBVIOUSLY WHAT'S GOING ON IN OUR HEALTH REALM IS A DISASTER ON SO MANY LEVELS.

LOOK AT WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH RFK JR.

AND WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE ADDRESSING ALL THESE TOP ISSUES, BUT IT OBVIOUSLY TRICKLES DOWN INTO OUR OWN CITY, COMMUNITY AND COUNTY. SO, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE PULLING OUT MERCURY IN THE VACCINES. DO PEOPLE KNOW THAT PURGING THE CDC WITH ALL KINDS OF THESE BIG PHARMA? I'M JUST SAYING, I NEVER KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.

IF YOU'RE GOING TO BE MAKING OR KEEPING THE FEE OF $16,000.

HOW DO WE KNOW WHAT A PERSON'S DOING OTHER THAN ATTENDING MEETINGS OR SKYPING OR GOING TO SACRAMENTO? IT'S A LOT WHEN YOU'RE A DEPARTMENT HEAD PERSON, BECAUSE YOU ALSO HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF ALL THE OTHER PEOPLE.

SO I'M NOT SAYING SOMEBODY SAID, OH, MENTION THE KNEE PAD THING.

I DON'T KNOW ANYBODY THAT HAD TO GO TO KNEE PADS TO GET TO THE POSITION THEY HAVE.

THIS IS A SMART WOMAN, A BRIGHT WOMAN, DEDICATED, LOOKS LIKE A HEALTHY PERSON.

A SANE PERSON CONDUCTS HERSELF.

GREAT. AND I'M JUST CONCERNED THAT IF WE JUST PUT THE INTERIM IN IT'S JUST, I DON'T KNOW, IT'S JUST A TRICKY THING.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AARON WATTS FOLLOWED BY TERESA, THEN LESLIE, TROY PAINE, THEN STEVE CONN.

WELCOME. GOOD MORNING, CHAIR CRYE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.

MY NAME IS AARON WATTS AND I'M THE BRANCH DIRECTOR FOR AYE ADMINISTRATION.

TODAY I'M HERE TO EXPRESS MY SUPPORT FOR THE APPOINTMENT OF CHRISTY COLEMAN TO THE POSITION OF HHS, A DIRECTOR.

I HAVE SEEN FIRSTHAND THAT CHRISTIE IS A TRUE LEADER.

SHE IS SUPPORTIVE AND APPROACHES CHALLENGES AND CONCERNS WITH AN OPEN MIND AND A GOAL FOR POSITIVE RESOLUTION. SHE IS THOUGHTFUL AND CONSIDERATE AND INTERESTED IN HEARING ALL SIDES AND OPINIONS, TAKING THE TIME TO MEET WITH STAFF AT ALL LEVELS TO GAIN A

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WELL-ROUNDED PERSPECTIVE.

AND SHE'S EXACTLY THE KIND OF PERSON THAT, IN MY OPINION, YOU WANT LEADING AN AGENCY LIKE HHS.

AYE. WHEN CHRISTIE TOOK ON THIS ROLE IN AN INTERIM CAPACITY ALMOST A YEAR AGO, SHE'S NOT ONLY KEPT THINGS STEADY, BUT SHE'S ALSO CONTINUED TO ADVANCE IMPORTANT HHS INITIATIVES. I HAVE RECEIVED SEVERAL COMMENTS FROM MY STAFF ABOUT WHAT THE AGENCY NEEDS RIGHT NOW. AND MY TAKEAWAY OVERALL, AS SUPERVISOR PLUMMER MENTIONED, IS STABILITY. APPOINTING CHRISTIE WILL HELP PROVIDE THAT STABILITY.

HER WILLINGNESS TO CONNECT AND ENGAGE WITH STAFF DIRECTLY BREAKS DOWN BARRIERS AND ROADBLOCKS, AND HELPS HER TO HAVE A FULL PICTURE AS SHE MAKES DECISIONS REGARDING THE AGENCY. RECENTLY, CHRISTIE HAS MET WITH ALL OF THE TEAMS IN MY BRANCH AS WELL AS INDIVIDUAL STAFF. THOUGH IT'S NOT ALWAYS EASY TO HEAR WHERE WE HAVE DEFICIENCIES, CHRISTIE HAS NEVER TAKEN A DEFENSIVE POSITION.

INSTEAD, SHE HAS SOUGHT TO GATHER MORE FEEDBACK AND INSIGHT INTO THESE CONCERNS, CITING THAT WHAT WE CAN'T WE CAN'T FIX, WHAT WE DON'T KNOW ABOUT AND CREATING SEVERAL OPPORTUNITIES FOR OPEN DIALOG.

ADDITIONALLY, SHE'S PROVIDED ME WITH VALUABLE FEEDBACK AND INSIGHT ON THE INFORMATION THAT SHE HAS LEARNED SO THAT I CAN MAKE ACTIONABLE CHANGES.

IN TURN, I HAVE RECEIVED COMMENTS FROM MY TEAM ABOUT THE POSITIVE CHANGES THAT ARE BEING MADE. I KNOW THAT SHE'S WORKING ON DOING THE SAME IN OTHER BRANCHES IN AN AGENCY LIKE HHS. THERE WILL ALWAYS BE CHALLENGES AND OPPORTUNITIES IN THE PIPELINE, WHICH IS WHY IT'S VITAL FOR THE AGENCY TO HAVE A DYNAMIC AND ENERGETIC LEADER LIKE CHRISTIE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

THERESA, FOLLOWED BY LESLIE, THEN TROY PAYNE, STEVE CONN, THEN DOLORES LUCERO.

I THINK A LOT OF US THOUGHT WHEN WE SAW THAT, IT WAS LIKE, HOLY CRAP, 1600 $16,000 A MONTH.

WELL, I FIGURE WITH THE EDUCATION AND WITH THE TEN MONTH EXPERIENCE WALKING THROUGH THAT, MAKING THINGS BETTER, WE AS EMPLOYERS, AND I KNOW THERE ARE A FEW OF YOU UP HERE THAT ARE EMPLOYERS, A LOT OF TIMES LEARN YOU ACTUALLY HAVE TALENT THERE RIGHT UNDER YOUR NOSE.

YOU DON'T NEED TO RECRUIT, YOU JUST NEED TO MOVE IT UP.

SO I AM IN SUPPORT OF THAT.

I MEAN, I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA.

I JUST WISH THAT YOU GUYS WOULD ALL TAKE BACK EVERYTHING THAT YOU'VE GIVEN TO SKOKIE WHEN IT COMES TO ALL THE RESPONSIBILITIES FOR HHS.

AYE AND CHARGING MEDI-CAL.

I DON'T WANT TO DO THAT.

I THINK THAT JUST BELONGS WITH THE COUNTY.

SO. BUT WELL DONE. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. LESLIE. TROY PAYNE, STEVE CON.

DOLORES LUCERO. ALL RIGHT.

IN A DEPARTMENT THAT IS THIS HUGE TAKES UP 50% OF OUR BUDGET, 50% OF OUR PERSONNEL. A SURVEY GIVEN TO LESS THAN 100 PEOPLE REPRESENTS LESS THAN 10% OF THAT. SO ONLY BECAUSE THAT WAS BROUGHT UP AND I KNOW WAS EMAILED TO YOU GUYS.

THAT DOES NOT REPRESENT ANYTHING THAT IS LESS THAN 10% OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE UNDERNEATH HER. AND AS YOU'VE HEARD FROM PEOPLE WHO WORK FOR HER AND YOUR OWN, KRISTY HAS DONE AN AMAZING JOB.

ALSO IN A DEPARTMENT WHERE OFTENTIMES THEY THINK GOVERNMENT'S THE SOLUTION TO GOVERNMENT PROBLEMS. I THINK IT'S VERY REFRESHING THAT HER BEHAVIOR HAS BEEN ABOVE REPROACH, AND SHE'S NOT AFRAID TO PUSH BACK ON THE STATE.

SHE TAKES DIRECTION FROM THE BOARD.

SHE HAS STAYED PROFESSIONAL WHEN UNJUSTLY ATTACKED BY MEMBERS OF SO-CALLED MEDIA AND THIS COMMUNITY, WHO HAVE SOUGHT TO JUST DISGRACE HER AGAIN FOR NOTHING MORE THAN MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF KEVIN DERANGEMENT SYNDROME.

SO ALSO THANK YOU, MONICA FOR ALL OF YOUR WORK IN THIS AND POINTING OUT THAT THERE WAS NO CHANGE TO THE SALARY.

CHRISTIE'S THE TYPE THAT NEVER SAYS THAT'S NOT MY JOB.

SHE JUST GOES AND GETS IT DONE OR FINDS SOMEBODY THAT WILL FOR YOU.

WHAT MAKES THIS DIFFERENT THAN THE ROV POSITION AND GIVING IT TO THE INTERIM IS ON THREE DIFFERENT OCCASIONS.

THE INTERIM, THEY'RE CIRCUMVENTED THE WILL OF THE BOARD AND THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE.

AND I, I WAS A FAN OF JOANNA.

I STILL AM AS A PERSON.

BUT FOR THAT, THAT MADE THAT DECISION EASY FOR ME.

CHRISTIE HAS ANSWERED TO THE BOARD, HAS MADE THIS DEPARTMENT BETTER, AND I'VE NEVER SEEN HER CIRCUMVENT THE WILL OF HER SUPERIORS THE WAY THAT WE DID IN THAT DEPARTMENT. AND THAT'S WHAT MAKES THAT DIFFERENT. AND THAT WHAT THANK YOU, TROY PAYNE, STEVE KHAN, DOLORES.

LUCERO. LAURA BURCH. HEY, STEVE.

IF WE COULD HAVE YOU WAIT BEHIND THAT. THANK YOU, SIR. GOOD MORNING, CHAIR CRYE. MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. TROY PAYNE, SHASTA COUNTY VETERANS SERVICE OFFICER.

I JUST WANT TO POST MY SUPPORT FOR CHRISTY AS A NEW APPOINTED DIRECTOR OF HHS.

AYE. SHE HAS BEEN WORKING THE INTERIM POSITION FOR ABOUT AS LONG AS I WAS APPOINTED AS THE FIRST VSO. PRIOR TO HIS APPOINTMENT AS THE INTERIM DIRECTOR,

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MY OFFICE HAD ZERO COMMUNICATION WITH HHS AND ZERO PARTNERSHIP.

SINCE SHE HAS TAKEN OVER, THAT HAS TURNED 180 DEGREES.

CHRISTY IS HANDS ON, ALWAYS RESPONSIVE.

IF SHE IS UNABLE TO GET TO SOMETHING, I GET A CALL BACK FROM ONE OF HER DIRECTORS IMMEDIATELY. SHE HAS BEEN ON POINT FROM DAY ONE.

I DID NOT PREPARE ANYTHING TO BRING TO HERE TODAY.

I'M SPEAKING OFF THE CUFF BECAUSE I HAVE PERSONAL EXPERIENCE.

I ECHO THE SENTIMENTS OF CEO RICKERT AS WELL AS SUPERVISOR PLUMMER.

I THINK SHE'S THE RIGHT PERSON FOR THE JOB. I THINK SHE WILL CARRY THAT DEPARTMENT FORWARD IN A POSITIVE DIRECTION FROM NOW UNTIL SHE'S READY TO QUIT.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE TIME. THANK YOU.

STEVE. DOLORES LUCERO, LAURA BURCH, THEN DAVID HALLIGAN AND STEVE, AS YOU'RE WALKING UP. THANK YOU. THEY'VE JUST ASKED TO KEEP THE PEOPLE IN THE BACKGROUND OUT. BOARD. I GUESS WHAT I GOT TO SAY IS I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY YOU WOULDN'T GO FOR AN OPEN RECRUITMENT ON THIS POSITION.

IT'S AN EXTREMELY IMPORTANT POSITION.

THEY DISTRIBUTE BETWEEN 3 AND $400 MILLION, THE LION'S SHARE OF THE ENTIRE COUNTY EXPENDITURES. SO I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THE DISADVANTAGE WOULD BE.

SHE CAN STILL APPLY AND BE APPROVED.

IF YOU GUYS DON'T COME UP WITH SOMEBODY THAT YOU FEEL IS SUPERIOR.

ALSO, SHE HAS WORKED THERE ALL ALONG, AND THERE HAS BEEN A GREAT NUMBER OF PROBLEMS WITH THIS DEPARTMENT. I THINK CRYE WAS ONE OF THE ONES SCREAMING AND JUMPING UP AND DOWN, SAYING HOW MESSED UP IT WAS, ALONG WITH US HIRING AN INDIVIDUAL TO LOOK INTO THE FINANCING OF THE DEPARTMENT, WHICH WAS TERMINATED TWO MONTHS INTO HIS HIS JOB, I BELIEVE, BECAUSE HE CAME UP WITH A BUNCH OF PROBLEMS. SO I'M NOT SURE WHAT'S GOING ON WITH ALL THAT, BUT SHE HAS BEEN THERE THROUGHOUT THAT PERIOD, AND I DON'T SEE ANY REASON IN THE WORLD WHY YOU WOULDN'T GO OUT AND RECRUIT.

AND THEN IF YOU CHOOSE, CHOOSE HER.

BUT WHY WOULD YOU NOT LOOK? IT'S A JOB PAYING A COUPLE OF HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS A YEAR WITHOUT BENEFIT, NOT EVEN MENTIONING THE BENEFITS.

IT'S A SIGNIFICANT POSITION.

DISTRIBUTES A HUGE AMOUNT OF MONEY AND TO NOT EVEN LOOK ELSEWHERE.

I DON'T UNDERSTAND. THANK YOU.

DOLORES. LUCERO. LAURA.

BIRCH. DAVID. HALLIGAN.

THEN. MAUREEN. KRISTI.

I'M PRETTY SURE THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE RUBBER STAMPED.

SO IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH HER, BUT IT HAS TO DO WITH THE DUE PROCESS HERE.

THE BOARD ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, GOES LIKE THIS.

LIKE A FISH OUT OF WATER TRYING TO TRYING TO GET AIR.

YOU KNOW HOW FISH FLIP FLOPS.

THAT'S WHAT THEY DO. DUE PROCESS.

YOU KNOW, YOU FORGOT ABOUT DUE PROCESS.

YOU SHOULD HAVE PUT THIS OUT THERE TO ACTUALLY INTERVIEW OTHER PEOPLE.

YOU CAN'T JUST GO AHEAD AND CHANGE YOUR MIND AND SAY, OH, OKAY, LET'S JUST GIVE THIS POSITION TO KRISTI.

THE REASON YOU WANT KRISTI, BECAUSE SHE'LL BE EASY TO MANIPULATE TO ACTUALLY BECAUSE YOU HAVE AN AGENDA.

THAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE.

AND ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE SHE MIGHT BE NOT QUALIFIED FOR THIS JOB.

IT SAYS HERE SHE'S GOT 20 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE, 20 YEARS. NORMALLY THE PEOPLE THAT YOU RECRUIT AND HIRE AND PUT THEM IN IN THE HIGHEST POSITION, THAT IS SO CRITICAL IN OUR COUNTY DON'T HAVE EXPERIENCE LIKE CLINT CURTIS, CHRIS STREET. THEY HAVE NO EXPERIENCE.

I THINK SHE MIGHT BE OVERQUALIFIED, DON'T YOU THINK? MAYBE YOU OUGHT TO GET SOMEBODY WHO HAS NO EXPERIENCE BECAUSE THAT'S YOUR THAT'S ACTUALLY WHAT YOU DO. YOU RECRUIT PEOPLE WITH NO EXPERIENCE AND YOU GIVE THEM ALL THE DOLLARS FROM THE TAXPAYERS.

BUT THE REASON WHY IS BECAUSE YOU HAVE AN AGENDA FOR WHATEVER YOU'RE GOING TO DO IS ACTUALLY, IT'S ALL ABOUT YOU, KEVIN, BECAUSE YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU GET ABLE TO MANIPULATE PEOPLE AND ALSO FOR YOU TO PUSH HER TO HELP YOU WITH THE MENTAL.

WHETHER THE MEDICAL SCHOOL AND THE MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES.

I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS I SEE HERE THAT IT'S ACTUALLY GOING TO BENEFIT YOU TO BE ABLE TO MANIPULATE HER.

THANK YOU. LAURA. BURCH, DAVID.

HALLIGAN. MAUREEN. THEN.

JENNY. GOOD MORNING CHAIR.

CRYE. AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD AND CEO.

MY NAME IS LAURA BURCH, RETIRED FORMER DIRECTOR OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES. AND I STRONGLY SUPPORT KRISTY COLEMAN'S APPOINTMENT AS DIRECTOR.

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HAVING WORKED WITH KRISTY FOR YEARS, I'VE WITNESSED HER EXCEPTIONAL LEADERSHIP HER COMMITTED, CAPABLE, HIGHLY DEPENDABLE AND DEEPLY DEDICATED WORK TO QUALITY AND DOING THINGS RIGHT. FOR THE PAST TEN MONTHS, KRISTY SERVED AS INTERIM DIRECTOR, STEPPING UP ADMIRABLY WHILE I FOCUSED ON MY HEALTH RECOVERY.

FOR THAT, I SINCERELY THANK CHRISTY.

MUCH OF THE CRITICISM HE HAS FACED STEMS FROM BEHIND THE SCENES REQUESTS AND DIRECTIVES THAT UNFAIRLY IMPACTED THE AGENCY AND ITS EMPLOYEES.

DIVERTING LEADERSHIP PRIORITIES AND STRAINING RESOURCES, PARTICULARLY TIME NEEDED FOR CORE RESPONSIBILITIES.

ADDITIONALLY, SPEAKING OF THE TEAMSTERS SURVEY, ITS FINDINGS REFLECT THE IMPACT OF SUCH DIVERSIONS.

THAT BEING SAID, IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO PLEASE A THOUSAND EMPLOYEES AT ANY GIVEN TIME, AND THIS IS THE CHALLENGE FOR ALL LEADERS.

CHRISTY WILL CONTINUE TO MAKE TOUGH DECISIONS TO CORRECT INEFFICIENCIES, ADDRESS PROCESS ERRORS AND ADAPT TO UPDATED REQUIREMENTS.

RESOURCES WILL DECREASE WITH THE NEED FOR SERVICES TO INCREASE.

THIS WILL BE HER CHALLENGE AND THAT IF HER OF HER EXCELLENT MANAGEMENT TEAM THAT ARE HERE TODAY TO THE BOARD PER COUNTY ADMINISTRATIVE POLICY.

BOARD MEMBERS WILL ASK QUESTIONS, PROVIDE INPUT, AND RELAY CONCERNS FROM THEIR CONSTITUENTS.

THE DAY TO DAY ACTIVITIES AND DECISION MAKING OF A DEPARTMENT HEAD SHOULD REMAIN INDEPENDENT. MY HOPE IS THAT THE CEO WILL GUARD THIS AUTONOMY, ALLOWING HER TO EFFECTIVELY LEAD EMPLOYEES AND THE MANY PROGRAMS SHE MUST OVERSEE TO CHRISTIE. STAND FIRM IN YOUR LEADERSHIP VALUES AND ETHICS, AS A RESPECTED FORMER CEO TOLD ME.

STAY INDEPENDENT HALOGEN FOLLOWED BY MAUREEN.

THANK YOU JENNY. THEN BENJAMIN NOLAN.

HELLO, BOARD. I'VE HEARD A LOT OF GOOD COMMENTS ABOUT MISS COLEMAN, AND I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST HER.

BUT I DO WANT TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT HIRING ONLY WITHIN.

LET'S LOOK AT A COUPLE OF CONCERNS.

YOU LIMIT YOUR TALENT POOL.

THERE'S AN ENTIRE WORLD OF POTENTIAL CANDIDATES OUT THERE.

AND BY CHOOSING TO FOCUS ON PROMOTING MISS COLEMAN, YOU WOULD BE OVERLOOKING APPLICANTS WHO MAY BE BETTER SUITED FOR THE ROLE SUPERVISORS RESTRICTING YOUR JOB RECRUITMENT PROCESS TO YOUR OWN BACKYARD.

YOU COULD BE MISSING OUT ON AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADD VALUE VALUABLE NEW TALENT TO THE DIRECTOR'S ROLE. ANOTHER CONCERN? YOU INSTANTLY CREATE ANOTHER VACANCY WITH HER PROMOTION PROMOTING MISS COLEMAN.

AND JUST LIKE MAGIC, YOU'VE CREATED A NEW VACANCY.

BUT MAYBE NOT. THIS COULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR CHAIR CRYE TO TAKE CARE OF HIS BUDDY CHRIS STREET AND SLIDE THE MAN INTO THE NUMBER TWO POSITION.

A TOTAL WIN FOR THE CRYE AGENDA.

FOLLOW THE BALL, CITIZENS.

ANOTHER CONCERN YOU RISK STAGNATING OUR OUR COUNTY'S CULTURE OVER A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME. A POLICY OF HIRING PRIMARILY WITHIN CAN LEAVE SHASTA COUNTY FEELING STUCK IN A TIME WARP. BRINGING IN POSSIBLE FRESH TALENT CAN SHAKE IT UP, AS IS CULTURE. IT CAN INTRODUCE ORIGINAL IDEAS AND CHALLENGING THE OLD WAY OF THINKING. EXTERNAL RECRUITS BRING WITH THEM INSIGHT, KNOWLEDGE AND PERSPECTIVE OF PREVIOUS ROLES, WHICH THEY CAN THEN USE TO MOTIVATE AND INSPIRE THEIR TEAMS. SO FINALLY, SUPERVISORS, DO YOU GO WITH WHAT YOU SEE.

AS MISS COLEMAN AS THE SAFE PICK, OR DO YOU LOOK BEYOND? DO YOU LOOK BEYOND AND RECRUIT AND SEE WHAT COULD BE, WHAT COULD BE FOR THIS VERY IMPORTANT LEADERSHIP POSITION IN SHASTA COUNTY? THANK YOU. MAUREEN. JENNY.

THEN BENJAMIN KNOWING.

IT'S A TOUGH CROWD TO FOLLOW.

AND I THINK IT IS OFFICIALLY AFTERNOON.

SO GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIRMAN CRYE.

MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, MR. RICKERT. MY NAME IS MAUREEN SHANNON.

I ACTUALLY STARTED A WRITING A LETTER TO YOU AND MRS. FUGITT QUITE SOME TIME AGO, AND DECIDED I WANTED TO PUNISH MYSELF BY COMING UP HERE TO SPEAK. I AM THE EXECUTIVE ASSISTANT TO OUR INTERIM DIRECTOR, CHRISTY COLEMAN, AND I'M HERE TO EXPRESS MY FULL SUPPORT FOR HER CONTINUED POSITION AS OUR AGENCY DIRECTOR. THE HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES AGENCY NEEDS CHRISTY TO STAY IN THIS ROLE IF WE HAVE ANY HOPE OF OVERCOMING THE CHALLENGES THAT HAVE ACCUMULATED OVER THE RECENT YEARS. SHE HAS GUIDED OUR TEAMS THROUGH SOME VERY COMPLEX ISSUES AND PROJECTS DURING HER TIME AS ACTING AND INTERIM DIRECTOR, AND SHE'S MAKING REAL PROGRESS.

WE NEED HER TO BE APPOINTED SO SHE CAN CONTINUE TO DO THE WORK THAT THE COMMUNITY AND THE AGENCY ARE COUNTING ON HER TO DO.

WE NEED STABILITY AND CONSISTENCY, AS MR. PLUMMER STATED. THE LONGER THAT SHE'S WITH US IN THIS ROLE, PEOPLE WILL SEE THAT SHE HAS INTEGRITY AND SHE HAS AN INCREDIBLE WORK ETHIC.

AS HER E, I HAVE THE PRIVILEGE OF WORKING HAND IN HAND WITH CHRISTY AND OUR ENTIRE LEADERSHIP TEAM, AS WELL AS OUR LINE STAFF.

I HAVE BEEN IN THIS ROLE FOR ALMOST THREE YEARS, AND I'VE GAINED A GREAT DEAL OF RESPECT FOR HER, AND I HAVE FAITH IN HER CHARACTER AND HER MANAGEMENT SKILLS.

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I STRONGLY RECOMMEND THAT SHE IS APPOINTED AND GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO CONTINUE SHOWING OUR COMMUNITY THAT SHE IS, WITHOUT A DOUBT, THE RIGHT PERSON FOR THIS JOB. SHE HAS GOTTEN SOME REALLY GOOD FEEDBACK RECENTLY FROM MEETINGS THAT SHE'S HAD WITH OUR STAFF, AND SHE'S TAKEN ACTION, ACTION PRETTY QUICKLY TO RECTIFY SOME OF THOSE BIG PAIN POINTS AS SHE CONTINUES TO MEET WITH STAFF ONE ON ONE, MEET WITH TEAMS AND DIG INTO LEARNING THE DAY TO DAY FUNCTIONS OF EACH OF OUR OVER 100 PROGRAMS, WE ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO MAKE SOME VERY POSITIVE LONG TERM IMPACTS.

I'M HAPPY TO SHARE THAT. I PERSONALLY RECEIVED FEEDBACK FROM MANY OF OUR STAFF THAT THEY ACTUALLY ARE VERY SUPPORTIVE AND APPRECIATIVE OF CHRISTIE.

SHE'S AN INVESTMENT IN THIS AGENCY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU JENNY.

THEN BENJAMIN NGUYEN. ONCE AGAIN, I COME BEFORE YOU TO REMIND YOU THAT I ASKED THE BOARD TO PUT THE ACTING DIRECTOR, CHRISTIE COLEMAN, UNDER THE SAME RIGOROUS PROCESS FOR GETTING HIRED AS YOU DID FOR OTHER DEPARTMENTS, SUCH AS THE ELECTIONS OR THE RESOURCE MANAGEMENT, BECAUSE AN OPEN RECRUITMENT TO GET THE BEST OF THE BEST, NOT JUST THE NEXT IN LINE OF THE DYNASTY, LIKE YOU SAID, KEVIN, BY THE POLL THAT WAS LEAKED ONLINE.

IT SOUNDS LIKE HHS ISN'T THAT HAPPY WITH HER EITHER.

AND PERHAPS IT'S TIME TO GIVE OTHERS THE CHANCE TO APPLY, TO FIGHT FOR THE CHANCE TO PROVE THAT THEY'RE THE BEST OF THE BEST, JUST LIKE YOU DID WITH TROY BARTOLOMEI. OTHERWISE, IT'S RATHER SUSPICIOUS.

WHY THE SUDDEN FAVORITISM FOR THIS ONE INNER DIRECTOR AND NO ONE ELSE? THANK YOU, THANK YOU. BENJAMIN, WAYNE AND CHAIR.

THAT'S OUR LAST SPEAKER. ALL RIGHT.

SO IN 2023, WHILE I WAS STILL EMPLOYED BY THE AGENCY, I MADE A HOSTILE WORK ENVIRONMENT REPORT AT HHS ADMINISTRATION.

NOW, AT THE TIME, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR COLEMAN INFORMED ME THAT THERE WAS NO CAUSE THAT THEY FOUND AND THEY ESSENTIALLY DID NO PROPER INVESTIGATION.

SO SINCE THEN, BOTH CURRENT AND FORMER STAFF HAVE REACHED OUT TO ME, DESCRIBING THE ENVIRONMENT AT HHS BUILDING ON PARK MARINA AS A TERRIBLE WORK ENVIRONMENT.

STAFF REPORT BEING BULLIED BY LEADERSHIP INCLUDING CHRISTIE COLEMAN, AARON WATTS AND TRISH BOSS, WHO WAS RECENTLY TERMINATED.

THEY SIT AT THEIR DESKS AND OFTEN CRY.

AND THIS ISN'T HEARSAY.

IT'S REFLECTED IN THE MANAGER'S POLL REPORT.

THE 70% STATED THEY HAVE NO CONFIDENCE IN MISS COLEMAN, AND I WILL. I LIKE TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT THAT IS A MANAGER'S REPORT.

THAT'S MANAGERS AND SUPERVISORS, INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE EXPECTED TO WORK DIRECTLY WITH HER, NOT LINE STAFF.

IF THEY'RE HAVING DIFFICULTY HAVING CONFIDENCE IN SOMEONE, HOW ARE THEY GOING TO GET THE JOB DONE? I ALSO WANTED TO MENTION THAT WHILE MANAGING HOUSING, THERE WERE ALSO OTHER CONCERNS WIDELY KNOWN AMONGST BOTH STAFF AND LEADERSHIP ABOUT THE FRATERNIZATION WITH THE SUBORDINATE.

IT WAS A SERIOUS ETHICAL ISSUE, BUT AND IT WOULD BE SERIOUS FOR ANY MANAGER, BUT FOR SOMEONE WHO'S GOING TO BE IN A POSITION OF LEADERSHIP IN A PUBLIC AGENCY, IT'S INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT.

AND THE LAST THING I WANT TO MENTION IS THAT I FEEL LIKE I FEEL LIKE THESE DECISIONS SOMETIMES ARE BEING MADE BECAUSE THE INDIVIDUALS MAY BE COMPROMISED TO A POINT WHERE THE BOARD ACTUALLY CAN, AT LEAST THE BOARD MAJORITY CAN GET THEM TO PUSH THROUGH THEIR AGENDAS.

I HEAR ALL THE TIME FROM INDIVIDUALS BEHIND THE SCENES THAT THEY, YOU DO, YOU DO KIND OF CALL THE SHOTS, THESE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE SUPPOSED TO HAVE THEIR OWN AUTONOMY. YOU KIND OF TELL THEM WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO DO.

AND I DO BELIEVE THAT ACTUALLY HAD SOMETHING TO DO WITH MY TERMINATION AS WELL.

GOOD LUCK. THANK YOU. CHAIR, THAT WAS OUR LAST SPEAKER.

THAT WAS OUR LAST SPEAKER.

YOU KNOW, AND SUPERVISOR LONG DID BRING THIS UP.

AND AGAIN, I WAS TRYING TO REMEMBER BACK THROUGH SUPERVISOR LONG AT THE CLOSED SESSION PART, BUT I THINK SUPERVISOR COUNSEL LARMER GAVE US PERMISSION.

SO JUST SO THE PUBLIC IS AWARE WHAT THE BOARD VOTED TO DO.

CAN I SAY THAT? TALK ABOUT THAT.

NO. YOU CAN TALK ABOUT YOUR YOUR OWN FEELINGS.

YOU CAN YOU CAN TALK ABOUT THE NUMBER OF VOTERS WHO VOTED YES.

VOTED NO. OKAY, SO THE BOARD, I BELIEVE BY A FOUR ONE VOTE.

WELL, HOW DO I DO THAT? LIKE I WANT TO JUST BE I WANT TO BE OPEN. CAN I WAVE? CAN I WAVE IT SO WE CAN JUST TALK ABOUT IT? THE ONE THING IS SHE'S BEEN THE INTERIM FOR HOW LONG? I WAS VERY PERSONALLY, I WAS VERY OPEN TO SAYING, LET'S GIVE AN INDIVIDUAL A SHOT, SEE HOW THEY DO AS A WORKING JOB PERFORMANCE, A JOB REVIEW. I OTHER SUPERVISORS CAN TALK ABOUT HOW THEY FELT ABOUT THAT.

THIS IS, THIS IS WHAT I HAD SPOKEN ABOUT EARLIER IS THE AGENCY IS SO BIG AND THE INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE IS SO GREAT.

AND THE PROCESS OF LEANING ON CEO RICKERT WHO AGAIN, THIS ISN'T HIS PERFORMANCE OR JOB INTERVIEW, BUT I THINK HE IS DOING A PHENOMENAL JOB AS WELL. LEANING ON HIS CONFIDENCE AND THE CHANGES THAT WE'VE SEEN MADE SINCE MISS

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COLEMAN HAS BEEN THE AGENCY DIRECTOR.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE UNDERSTOOD THAT THERE'S BEEN A TEN MONTH WORKING JOB INTERVIEW. SO ANYWAY, THAT'S IT.

SUPERVISOR HARMON. ARE YOU STILL IN QUEUE FROM LAST TIME OR.

NO. OKAY. GO AHEAD. I JUST WANTED TO.

I'M A LITTLE FRUSTRATED AND MAYBE I CAN GET A LITTLE EXPLANATION, BUT I KEEP HEARING ABOUT THIS SURVEY THAT WAS DONE.

I THINK THERE'S AROUND 1000 PEOPLE IN THAT DEPARTMENT.

AND THAT SURVEY, I THINK TOOK IN 80 PEOPLE FOR QUESTIONS.

CAN SOMEBODY CLEAR THAT UP? AND THEN THEY WANT TO SAY THAT AND THEN THEY WANT TO PUT THAT OUT.

WELL, LET'S LET'S DO THIS. MISS COLEMAN, WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME UP AND SPEAK ANYTHING ON YOUR BEHALF AND THEN WE'LL TAKE THE VOTE, BECAUSE WE'VE ALREADY WE'VE ALREADY HEARD PUBLIC COMMENT. WE'VE ALREADY DISCUSSED IT. WE HAVE MOTIONS IN A SECOND. WELCOME.

THANK YOU. SO I DID WRITE UP SOMETHING JUST SO I COULD KIND OF STAY ON TOPIC HERE.

GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIRMAN CRYE. MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME UP AND SAY A FEW WORDS.

I STARTED WITH THE COUNTY AS A HOUSING PROGRAM SPECIALIST, A CASE WORKER IN THE HOUSING AUTHORITY. WHEN I TOOK THE JOB, I WAS EXCITED TO HELP THE COMMUNITY, MY COMMUNITY, THE COMMUNITY I GREW UP IN.

I WAS BORN AND RAISED HERE IN SHASTA COUNTY.

I LIVED IN WHAT IS NOW CALLED SHASTA LAKE CITY, BUT WILL ALWAYS BE CALLED CENTRAL VALLEY TO ME.

I MOVED TO REDDING WHEN I WAS IN JUNIOR HIGH AND I GRADUATED FROM FOOTHILL HIGH SCHOOL.

I LEFT THE AREAS FOR SOME YEARS AFTER HIGH SCHOOL TO ATTEND COLLEGE AND STARTED MY CAREER IN THE BAY AREA.

AFTER WORKING YEARS AS A CASEWORKER, I WAS PROMOTED TO A HOUSING SUPERVISOR, EVENTUALLY PROGRAM MANAGER AND DIRECTOR OF HOUSING.

MY TEAM IN HOUSING WAS EXCITED FOR ME WHEN I WAS PROMOTED TO DIRECTOR, AND I WILL NEVER FORGET THE ENTIRE TEAM RUNNING INTO MY OFFICE AFTER I FOUND OUT THAT I GOT THE JOB. BEYOND EXCITED FOR ME, I THOUGHT THAT I WOULD BE IN HOUSING FOREVER, BUT WHEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME UP CAME UP TO HELP ANOTHER DEPARTMENT, I TOOK THE OPPORTUNITY AND MOVED TO CHILD SUPPORT AS THE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR.

DURING MY TIME IN CHILD SUPPORT, I SERVED AS INTERIM DIRECTOR, WAS PART OF WORK GROUPS FOR THE STATE, OPENED THE FISCAL SIDE OF CHILD SUPPORT TO THE MANAGERS LED STAFF TO THE HIGHEST PERFORMANCE RANKING IN THE DEPARTMENT AND HELPED IMPLEMENT A STRENGTHS BASED CULTURE, ONE THAT I STILL SEE IN CHILD SUPPORT TODAY.

WHEN I CAME TO HRSA, I KNEW I WASN'T.

IT WASN'T GOING TO BE EASY, BUT I KNEW I WAS READY FOR A CHALLENGE.

COMING INTO A LARGE AGENCY THAT HAD FINANCIAL ISSUES, NEW LEADERSHIP ACROSS THE AGENCY, AN AGENCY THAT HAD CONTINUAL TURNOVER, HIGH VACANCY RATES, SUFFERED A GREAT DEAL OF LOSS DURING COVID AND HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE STILL WORKING FROM HOME.

I KNEW THERE WOULD BE SOME BUMPS ALONG THE WAY.

KNOWING THAT CHANGES NEEDED TO BE MADE IS NOT EASILY DONE IN AN AGENCY WHERE YOU HAVEN'T EARNED THE RESPECT OF PEOPLE BECAUSE YOU ARE NEW AND HAVEN'T EVEN MET A QUARTER OF THE STAFF. KNOWING THAT IF CHANGES WERE MADE AND SPENDING CONTINUED DOWN THE PATH IT WAS ON, HHS WOULD BE IN SERIOUS FINANCIAL TROUBLE AND THAT THE COMMUNITY NEEDED HELP.

THEY WOULD HAVE A HARD TIME GETTING IT.

IN MY FIRST MONTH WITH HRSA, WE WERE ASKED TO TAKE OVER A DEPARTMENT THAT WAS NOT DOING GOOD AND WE HAD TO CLOSE DOWN THE OC.

THESE ARE NOT EASY CONVERSATIONS, EASY DECISIONS TO MAKE, BUT WE MADE DECISIONS WITH THE HELP OF STAFF.

OTHER COUNTY DEPARTMENTS AND HELP GET THE DEPARTMENT BACK ON TRACK.

OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS, A FEW THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN WORKED ON ARE.

THE HOUSING AUTHORITY IS BACK TO BEING A HIGH PERFORMING HOUSING AUTHORITY.

IHSS RECEIVED A COMPLIANCE RATING OF 94.9, 94.4%, IMPLEMENTED MEETINGS TO HELP.

COLLABORATION BETWEEN TEAMS AND DHS CREATED AND IMPLEMENTED A TRAINING PLAN IN ONE OF THE BRANCHES AND MORE ARE IN PROCESS.

I WORKED WITH STAFF TO REVAMP REPORTS SHARED AT MEETINGS AND ARE CONTINUOUSLY WORKING TO IMPROVE THE CONTRACTING PROCESS.

I HAVE STAYED STEADY AND CONTINUING TO SHOW UP, BE PRESENT AND HELP STAFF WORK THROUGH THE MAGNITUDE OF ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT TO ME. THOSE WHO WORK CLOSELY WITH ME HAVE SAID THAT THEY FEEL THE SUPPORT I PROVIDE.

THEY FEEL HEARD. THEY HAVE SHARED THAT THEY SEE ME DO WHAT I SAY I'M GOING TO DO.

I AM THERE FOR THEM TO HELP THEM WORK THROUGH CONCERNS, GROW THEM AS LEADERS, AND BROADEN THE SCOPE OF WHAT THEY ARE INVOLVED IN. IN THE LAST THREE MONTHS, I HAVE MET WITH AN ENTIRE BRANCH.

HEARD WHAT EVERYONE HAD TO SAY.

CHANGED THINGS FOR THE BETTER, AND FOLLOWED BACK UP WITH STAFF TO MAKE SURE THE CHANGES WERE WORKING.

STAFF HAVE SAID THINGS LIKE THEY HAVE NEVER MET WITH ANYONE AT MY LEVEL BEFORE.

THEY FELT HEARD, ARE HAPPY TO COME TO WORK EVERY DAY AND FEEL LIKE THEY CAN COME TALK TO ME. I WANT TO MAKE THE AGENCY THE BEST PLACE TO WORK.

ACTUALLY NO. I AM GOING TO MAKE THE AGENCY THE BEST PLACE TO WORK.

I HAVE A GOAL OF MEETING WITH EVERY STAFF IN THE AGENCY, GETTING TO KNOW THEM, THEIR CONCERNS, THEIR IDEAS TO MAKE HSA BETTER. I AM BREAKING DOWN SILOS IN THE AGENCY AS WELL AS IN THE COMMUNITY.

AND THE LAST THREE MONTHS I HAVE SHOWN THAT COLLABORATION ISN'T JUST SOMETHING THAT I SAY IS IMPORTANT. IN THE LAST THREE MONTHS, I HAVE CREATED A HOMELESS VETERAN PLAN IN COLLABORATION WITH THE VSO AND VETERAN COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS,

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AND HAVE STARTED COLLABORATIVE MEETINGS WITH RESOURCE MANAGEMENT, WITH THE GOAL OF SHARING RESOURCES TO HELP THE COMMUNITY IN COORDINATION WITH RESOURCE MANAGEMENT.

WE ARE PLANNING AN UPCOMING DEVELOPERS ROUNDTABLE, WHERE WE WILL HEAR CONCERNS AND IDEAS FROM DEVELOPERS ON HOW TO IMPROVE THINGS IN SHASTA COUNTY. IN SEPTEMBER OF 2024, WHEN THE DIRECTOR WENT ON LEAVE, I STAYED AND CONTINUED TO MAKE SURE STAFF WHO WERE DOING THE REALLY HARD WORK COULD CONTINUE TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY.

SINCE SEPTEMBER, I HAVE HAD MULTIPLE ROLES AT ONE TIME INTERIM AGENCY DIRECTOR, ASSISTANT AGENCY DIRECTOR, ACTING MENTAL HEALTH DIRECTOR, SERVED AS BRANCH DIRECTOR FOR BSW AND ECONOMIC MOBILITY.

EACH OF THESE ROLES IS A FULL TIME JOB.

I DID FOUR OF THE FIVE AT ONE TIME, AND I STILL RECEIVE COMMENTS FROM STAFF ON FEELING SUPPORT FROM ME AS A LEADER.

I AM MAKING THE TIME TO MEET EVERYONE IN THE AGENCY BECAUSE IT IS IMPORTANT TO ME BREAKING DOWN BARRIERS AND SILOS, MAKING SURE EVERYONE HAS THE RESOURCES AND TRAINING THEY NEED TO PROVIDE THE SERVICES THEY DO, AND MAKING HSA THE BEST PLACE TO WORK IS GOING TO TAKE SOME TIME.

HSA IS A LARGE AGENCY WITH CLOSE TO A THOUSAND STAFF.

IF GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY AND THE TIME, YOU WILL SEE AND FEEL THE CHANGES IN HSA.

I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE RESULTS OF THE RECENT TEAMSTERS SURVEY.

EARLIER THIS YEAR, I WAS PRESENTED WITH INFORMATION THAT WARRANTED MY INVOLVEMENT IN RESOLVING CONCERNS IN ONE OF THE HSA BRANCHES.

THIS LED TO IN-DEPTH, PRODUCTIVE CONVERSATIONS WITH ALL TEAMS AND INDIVIDUALS WITHIN THAT BRANCH.

IN RESPONSE TO THIS, I RECEIVED POSITIVE FEEDBACK FROM THE TEAMSTERS REPRESENTATIVE ON HOW SHE HASN'T SEEN SOMEONE IN MY POSITION MAKE CHANGES LIKE THIS IN FIVE YEARS, AND SHE WANTED TO THANK ME FOR DOING WHAT I SAID I WOULD DO.

THIS HAS ALSO PROMPTED ME TO INITIATE CONVERSATIONS WITH STAFF AND OTHER BRANCHES, AS WELL AS PROVIDE DIRECTION TO MY LEADERSHIP TEAM.

WHAT KIND OF AGENCY AGENCY DO WE WANT HSA TO BE AND HOW DO WE ACCOMPLISH IT? WELL, I APPRECIATE THE UNIONS PROVIDING CRITICAL INFORMATION ABOUT THE PERSPECTIVE OF THEIR MEMBERS IN AN AGENCY AS LARGE AS HRSA.

THERE WILL ALWAYS BE CHALLENGES TO WORK THROUGH. IT IS TIME FOR US TO WORK TOGETHER IN COLLABORATION AND TOWARDS A UNIFIED GOAL OF MAKING HHS A STRONGER AND MORE IMPACTFUL AGENCY FOCUSED ON SERVICE, DELIVERY AND EXCELLENCE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SUPERVISOR.

KELSTROM. THEN WE'LL TAKE THE VOTE. WE ALREADY HAVE THE MOTION.

YEAH. OKAY. YEAH. MOTION BY SUPERVISOR PLUMMER TO ACCEPT AND THEN SECONDED BY SUPERVISOR. THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. SO I JUST.

THANK YOU, MR. COLEMAN. APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH. AND THANK YOU FOR THE JOB YOU'VE BEEN DOING AND THE JOB YOU WILL MOST LIKELY BE DOING IN THE FUTURE.

SO. AND SUPERVISOR LONG, I THINK WE DISCUSSED THIS A LITTLE BIT, BUT I AM NORMALLY FOR THE TWO AND A HALF YEARS I'VE BEEN HERE, I AM ABSOLUTELY FOR OPENING THE JOBS UP AND GETTING, YOU KNOW, GETTING OUT THERE GETTING THE BEST PEOPLE QUALIFIED AND WHAT USUALLY IS YOUR EMPLOYEE THAT'S ALREADY THERE. BUT THIS PARTICULAR TIME, THIS PARTICULAR ONE. THE REASON I DIDN'T WANT TO OPEN THIS UP IS BECAUSE IT WAS SOLD TO MISS COLEMAN, AS SHE WAS THE ACTING DIRECTOR FOR A WHILE.

AND WHAT AS PART OF THAT PART OF THAT CLOSED SESSION, THAT'S WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT. WELL, THIS WAS BETWEEN A CONVERSATION HER AND I.

YOU KNOW, DO WHATEVER YOU WANT. YOU'RE GOOD. NEVER MIND. NO.

I'M GOOD. NO, THAT WAS IT WAS CONVERSATION HER AND I HAD.

WE'RE HERE WITH, LIKE, 100 FRIENDS. YEAH.

JUST GOT TO BE CAREFUL WITH CLOSED SESSION. CLOSED SESSION? YEAH, I JUST WHEN ALAN AND I BOTH LOOKED AT EACH OTHER AND LOOKED.

THAT'S IT. SO CONTINUE, SIR.

NO. OKAY. SUPERVISOR LONG.

LET'S GO AHEAD. THANK YOU, CHAIR CRYE.

SO MY COMMENTS ARE GOING TO BE AND I AND I DRAW ON MY HISTORY WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. THE REDDING POLICE DEPARTMENT. WE PROMOTED UP THROUGH THE RANKS ALL THE WAY UP THROUGH CAPTAIN. AND WE ALWAYS 100% OF THE TIME WENT OUTSIDE FOR THE CRITICAL DEPARTMENT HEAD POSITION, THE CHIEF, AND WE WOULD CONDUCT IT.

AND GUESS WHAT? THE CHIEF IN-HOUSE, THE IN-HOUSE CANDIDATE, USUALLY A CAPTAIN ONE TIME LEONARD MODY, WHO WAS THE LIEUTENANT, WENT RIGHT TO CHIEF. BUT WE ALWAYS SELECT ENDED UP SELECTING PEOPLE COMING UP THROUGH THE RANKS. BUT WE HAD AN OPEN, FAIR PROCESS AND LOOKED AT THE COMPLETE CANDIDATE POOL TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GOT THE BEST ONE.

AND THEN THAT'S HOW IT OFTEN ENDED UP.

SO WITH THIS PARTICULAR POSITION, AND I'VE TALKED WITH CHRISTIE ABOUT THIS, BUT WE DO THIS FOR EVERY DEPARTMENT HEAD.

AND ALL THE EXAMPLES HAVE BEEN CITED.

SO MY THING IS THE SAME AS WHAT I DRAW ON WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, WHICH IS LET'S JUST HAVE A LOOK.

WHAT DOES IT HURT? IT'S GOING TO TAKE A COUPLE MONTHS.

SHE'S INTERIM. SHE'S ACTING PROBABLY RISE RIGHT TO THE TOP OF THE POSITION AND SHE'LL BE SHE'LL BE SELECTED.

BUT WE WILL NEVER KNOW IF WE DON'T CONDUCT AN OPEN RECRUITMENT PROCESS, WHICH WE DO FOR POLICE CHIEFS, WE DO FOR EVERYTHING ELSE.

SO THAT IS GOING TO BE MY TAKE ON THIS.

AND SO GREAT. I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT I FULLY SUPPORT YOU.

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AND I'VE TALKED WITH YOU ABOUT THIS, AND THIS IS NOT AGAINST ANYTHING AGAINST YOU.

IT'S THE PROCESS ONLY.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL START THE ROLL CALL VOTE TO MY RIGHT. THE SUPERVISOR ACTUALLY, WE'LL START WITH WE STARTED ON MY RIGHT LAST TIME. WE'LL START WITH MY LEFT SUPERVISOR ALONG WITH THE ROLL CALL VOTE. SUPERVISOR. LONG.

NO. SUPERVISOR CRYE OR.

SORRY. SUPERVISOR KELSTROM. YES.

SUPERVISOR CRYE. YES. SUPERVISOR HARMAN.

YES. AND SUPERVISOR PLUMMER.

YES. PASSES FOUR ONE. ALL RIGHT.

SO WE'RE GOING TO TAKE CLOSE.

AND CONGRATULATIONS. MISS COLEMAN. WE'RE GOING TO TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT AT THIS TIME FOR

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ITEMS R NINE, R TEN AND R 11 WHICH ARE CLOSED SESSION.

WE DO HAVE OVER TEN, SO WE WILL DO TWO MINUTES APIECE.

CAN WE START? MISS BLANKENSHIP, WITH THE ANYBODY THAT'S GOING TO SPEAK ON OUR NINE. SURE. SO THE THERE'S FOUR PEOPLE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO OUR.

NINE AND THAT IS GOING TO BE CHRISTINA ROBINSON, LON HECKER, STEVE KHAN, AND C GARDNER.

CHRISTINA, ARE YOU HERE? AND THIS THIS IS R NINE.

YES. OKAY. LON HECKER, ARE YOU HERE? OKAY. LOU, COME ON UP.

YEAH. MISS BLANKENSHIP, I BELIEVE.

I MEAN, I DON'T HAVE LOU FOR R TEN.

HE SIGNED UP FOR R NINE, BUT IF.

OKAY, SO WE CAN MOVE THEM TO R TEN IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO.

OKAY. STEVE KHAN. THAT'S R9, CORRECT? R9. WELCOME SIR. GOOD AFTERNOON.

HELLO. TEST. OKAY. YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO CONTINUE ON SOME OF THE STUFF I'VE SAID IN THE PAST ON THE PROPERTY DEAL WITH THE CITY OF REDDING, WHICH NEEDS TO HAPPEN AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

I ACTUALLY AGREE WITH CRYE ON SOME OF THE COMMENTS HE MADE EARLIER.

I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DON'T TALK ABOUT ENOUGH IS THE SAVINGS IN DOLLARS THAT WE WILL EXPERIENCE ONCE WE CAN IMPLEMENT THIS PROGRAM, AND THAT'S WHY I KEEP SAYING THE SOONER THE BETTER, BECAUSE BY DIVERTING THESE PEOPLE OUT OF HAVING A LIFE OF CRIME, WE'RE HAVING LESS IMPACT ON THE OFFICERS, ON THE STREET, ON THE LEGAL SYSTEM THAT HAS TO PROSECUTE THEM.

OF COURSE, ON OUR JAIL SYSTEM AND EVEN THE STATE PRISON.

SO WE NEED TO IMPLEMENT IT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE HANG UPS ARE, BUT PLEASE WORK THROUGH THEM AND LET'S GET THIS GOING. LET'S GET SOME OF THESE CRIMINALS OFF THE STREET.

THANK YOU. STEVE GARDNER.

I DON'T SEE HIM. ALL RIGHT.

SO MOVING ON TO ITEM R TEN.

FIRST UP SUSAN WEISS. AFTER SUSAN WE HAVE ROBERT RADKE MARY RICKERT THEN KRISTEN GARDNER. AND THEN I'M SORRY.

I HOPE I'M READING THIS CORRECTLY, BUT THIS IS WHAT DEALS WITH THE LAWSUIT THAT YOU'RE UNDER WITH THE TRIBE CONTRACT.

IS THAT CORRECT? YES. TEN.

YES. YOU KNOW, WE WERE HERE THROUGH ALL THAT NEGOTIATIONS.

I WAS HERE THE DAY THAT THAT YOU AGREED TO THIS CONTRACT.

NOT ALL OF YOU, THE PEOPLE THAT WERE ON THE BOARD, YOU CAN JUST LISTEN.

BUT KEVIN CRYE AND CHRIS KELSTROM, THAT WAS A BAD DECISION FROM THE BEGINNING.

WE ALL KNEW IT. I HATE TO SAY I TOLD YOU SO, BUT WE ALL TOLD YOU SO.

THAT DAY WE SAID YOU WERE MOVING TOO FAST.

WE SAID IT WAS 30 YEARS WITHOUT ANY CHANCE TO REVISIT IT.

THAT WAS BAD. WE SAID YOU HADN'T INCLUDED THE DEPARTMENT HEADS THAT NEEDED TO BE FINALIZED.

WE TOLD YOU SO. AND NOW THIS IS HAPPENING.

A COUPLE MONTHS AGO, I ASKED YOU PARTICULARLY TO SLOW DOWN ON THE MEDICAL SCHOOL BECAUSE IT SEEMS TO BE. WHY ARE YOU SNICKERING? YES. SLOW DOWN. I ASK.

PLEASE DON'T SNICKER WHEN I TALK.

IT'S NOT POLITE. THANK YOU.

I ASK YOU TO NOT MOVE TOO FAST, BUT TO INCLUDE THE COMMUNITY IT LOOKS LIKE YOU HAVE FROM YOUR LETTER YOU DID TODAY.

BUT TO NOT MOVE QUICKLY BECAUSE WE LEARNED OUR LESSON FROM THE TRIBE'S CONTRACT.

I WAS SO HAPPY THAT THE JUDGE REINFORCED WHAT WE ALL TOLD YOU WHEN YOU MADE THIS DECISION, AND I'M SO HAPPY TO SAY WE TOLD YOU SO.

ROBERT KROENKE FOLLOWED BY MARY RICKERT.

CHRISTIAN GARDNER. JENNY.

THANKS. GOOD AFTERNOON SUPERVISORS.

THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF CONVERSATION TODAY ABOUT TRANSPARENCY FROM THE BOARD ITSELF AND

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FROM A LOT OF MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC.

AND I THINK YOU COULD HARDLY FIND A WORSE EXAMPLE OF TRANSPARENCY THAN THE BACKROOM DEAL THAT THE BOARD CUT WITH THE RANCHERIA TWO YEARS AGO.

THAT DEAL WAS CUT AGAINST THE ADVICE OF YOUR OWN ATTORNEY, AS WELL AS DOZENS OF MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY IN THIS ROOM.

PUBLIC SAFETY OFFICIALS AND SO ON.

SO IN THE SPIRIT OF TRANSPARENCY, AS YOU GUYS MOVE FORWARD IN DEALING WITH THIS, WE'D CALL ON YOU TO RELEASE ALL RECORDS OF COMMUNICATIONS WITH THE RANCHERIA PURSUANT TO THAT DEAL. THERE ARE A LOT OF NEW MEMBERS ON THE BOARD AS YOU GUYS CONSIDER YOUR NEXT STEPS. I THINK IN THE TRUE SPIRIT OF TRANSPARENCY, WE SHOULD KNOW WHAT TRANSPIRED BETWEEN THE BOARD AT THAT TIME. ALSO, WE SHOULD FOCUS ON HOW BAD A DEAL IT WAS.

WE SAID TWO YEARS AGO THAT SIMILAR DEALS BETWEEN OTHER TRIBES AND COUNTIES CONSTITUTE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS A YEAR IN REVENUE.

THE DEAL, UNDER THE BEST ESTIMATES THAT WAS CUT WITH THE RANCHERIA, MIGHT PRODUCE IN THE LOW SIX FIGURES OVER A 30 YEAR TIME FRAME.

THAT'S SHORTCHANGING THE TAXPAYERS OF SHASTA COUNTY BY TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS, IF NOT HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS.

IT IS AN EGREGIOUS ABDICATION OF FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY.

AND SO, AGAIN, MOVING FORWARD, WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE A FULL AUDIT OF THE COSTS OF SERVICING THE WIND RIVER CASINO FROM THE STANDPOINT OF PUBLIC SAFETY AND OTHER SERVICES FOR WHAT THEY OWE NOW, BECAUSE AS WAS MENTIONED EARLIER TODAY, THEY PAY NOTHING FOR SHERIFF SERVICES NOW AND HAVE NOT FOR DECADES.

SO WHAT DOES THAT COST US? NOW, BEFORE WE HAVE ANY CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT IT WOULD COST TO SERVICE IT GOING FORWARD? WE BELIEVE THAT THE COUNTY SHOULD HAVE NO FURTHER NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE RANCHERIA UNTIL THESE KINDS OF INDEPENDENT AUDITS CAN TAKE PLACE.

CERTAINLY THERE SHOULD NEVER BE ANOTHER BACKROOM DEAL LIKE THAT DONE WITHOUT CONSULTATION OF YOUR DEPARTMENT HEADS AND YOUR LEGAL COUNSEL.

AND YOU SHOULD ALSO BE AWARE THAT THERE'S OTHER LEGAL CASES PENDING AGAINST THAT DEAL.

SO, IN SUM, WE BELIEVE THAT THE BOARD SHOULD REMOVE ITS STATED SUPPORT OF THE RELOCATION OF THE CASINO. WE HAVE NO OPPOSITION TO THE RANCHERIA OPERATING WHERE THEY ARE NOW.

BUT YOU CANNOT MOVE FORWARD IN A SPIRIT OF TRANSPARENCY, FOLLOWED BY CHRISTIAN GARDNER. THANK YOU. AND THEN I WOULD FOLLOWED BY I'M GOING TO ENCOURAGE I'M GOING TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO STICK AROUND BECAUSE I'LL HAVE SOME COMMENTS BEFORE WE HEAD INTO CLOSED SESSION. NEXT SPEAKER.

COME ON UP, MARY. IF I CALLED YOUR NAME, PLEASE GET IN QUEUE.

AGAIN, I'LL REPEAT THOSE. CHRISTIAN GARNIER JENNY FOLLOWED BY BENJAMIN NGUYEN.

OKAY, I WANT TO THANK JUDGE BAKER FOR THE RECENT DECISION ON THIS LAWSUIT.

I KNEW WHEN I VOTED NO THAT THIS BOARD MAJORITY WAS VIOLATING THE PROCESS AND ACTING ILLEGALLY, DISREGARDING THE ADVICE OF THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY, THE SHERIFF, THE COUNTY FIRE CHIEF, COUNTY COUNSEL AND OUTSIDE COUNSEL AND RISK MANAGEMENT WAS ILLEGAL.

IT WAS CLEARLY STATED IN JUDGE BAKER'S DECISION.

I WANT TO KNOW, HOW MUCH HAS THIS COST THE COUNTY TO FIGHT THIS LAWSUIT? THE PUBLIC IS ENTITLED TO THOSE ANSWERS, AND I'M ASKING FOR A FULL DISCLOSURE FOR PUBLIC REVIEW. I THINK THIS NEEDS TO BE MADE PUBLIC.

YES, THIS WAS AN INCREDIBLY POOR FINANCIAL DECISION COSTING THE TAXPAYERS OF THIS COUNTY MILLIONS OF DOLLARS. AND YES, KEVIN, I WAS VINDICATED AND I'M WAITING FOR YOUR APOLOGY. CHRISTIAN GARNIER, FOLLOWED BY JENNY, FOLLOWED BY BENJAMIN NOLAN, THEN LAURA HOBBS.

STICK AROUND. WE WILL.

FIRST OFF, I'M GOING TO STIPULATE RIGHT OFF THE BAT, THE TRIBE, THE NATIVE AMERICAN NATION OF THIS OF THE NORTHERN CALIFORNIA AREA WAS SUBJECTED TO GENOCIDE AND THEN INSTITUTIONAL STRUCTURAL POVERTY, RACISM, SEXISM. AND IT WASN'T UNTIL THE TRIBE ORGANIZED AND WAS ABLE TO FIGHT BACK THAT THAT STUFF BEGAN TO CHANGE.

AND PART OF THIS WAS BECAUSE OF THE CASINO.

AND TRACY HAS DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB.

JACK'S DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB.

I'M NOT HERE COMPLAINING ABOUT THEM.

THEY SAW SOME SUCKERS AND SAID, YEAH, WE GOT AN EASY MARK.

WE'LL JUST THROW SOME MONEY INTO THE CAMPAIGN COFFERS AND WE'LL WRAP THIS THING UP.

AND SO MY BEEF IS NOT WITH THE TRIBE.

IT'S NOT PERSONAL. IT'S BUSINESS.

EASY MONEY. QUICK, FAST.

THIS IS A BAD DEAL. AND THAT'S WHY THE COURT REJECTED IT.

AND I WOULD HOPE THAT AT SOME POINT, THIS BOARD AND THE TRIBE CAN SIT DOWN AND TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO RESOLVE THIS ISSUE, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO WIN IN COURT, BUT THAT MIGHT BE AN OPTION, I DON'T KNOW.

BUT BAD DEAL. POORLY CONCEIVED, POORLY IMPLEMENTED.

AND I SUPPORT THE TRIBE ALL THE WAY.

THANK YOU. JENNY FOLLOWED BY BENJAMIN, THEN LAURA HOBBS, FOLLOWED BY DON DUCKETT.

JENNY PASSES. OKAY, BEN.

COME ON. JENNY. YEAH. YOU'RE UP.

BENJAMIN. SO IN IN JULY OF 2023, I STOOD HERE AND I

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WARNED, I WARNED THE BOARD MAJORITY, WHICH INCLUDED KEVIN CRYE AND CHRIS KELSTROM AT THE TIME, THAT SKIPPING COUNTY COUNCIL AND BYPASSING OTHER RELEVANT DEPARTMENTS WAS RECKLESS. I SAID THE STAKEHOLDERS LIKE THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, THE SHERIFFS AND THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY AND CEO'S OFFICE OR CEO ALL NEEDED TO BE INVOLVED BEFORE ANY AGREEMENT WAS SIGNED.

YOU PRETTY MUCH IGNORED THAT WARNING AND A JUDGE STATED PLAINLY WHAT YOU DID WAS ILLEGAL, NOT QUESTIONABLE OR A MATTER OF OPINION.

IT WAS ILLEGAL. THE RULING CONFIRMS EXACTLY WHAT MANY OF US TRIED TO TELL YOU.

SO WHAT I WANT TO KNOW IS HOW MUCH DID THIS COST? SHASTA COUNTY NOT JUST IN THE LEGAL FEES, BUT ALSO IN THE TRUST.

THE LOST IN TRUST AND WASTED TIME.

WHY DID KEVIN THINK HE COULD JAM THIS THROUGH WITHOUT OVERSIGHT? SO I FEEL LIKE HE'S GOING TO GO INTO SOME DIATRIBE PRETTY MUCH RIGHT AFTER THIS.

THAT'S GOING TO STATE THAT, NO, IT WAS GARMIN'S FAULT, OR THERE WAS SOME BACKROOM DEAL THAT DIDN'T INVOLVE HIM AND THAT, YOU KNOW, HE'S GOING TO IT'S GOING TO BE A PRETTY GOOD NARRATIVE. IT'S GOING TO BE A GOOD TIME. WE'RE ALL GOING TO HAVE FUN LISTENING TO IT. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I'VE BEEN TOLD BY PEOPLE THAT WERE INVOLVED IN SOME OF THESE VERY SAME SCENARIOS THAT THIS WAS A ORCHESTRATED SITUATION REGARDING PATRICK JONES AND YOURSELF.

KEVIN CRYE I THINK THAT AT A CERTAIN POINT, YOU'RE GOING TO KIND OF RUN OUT OF ROAD WHEN IT COMES TO LIES AND MISREPRESENTING YOURSELF IN THE COUNTY, AND EVENTUALLY YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO ACTUALLY ANSWER FOR THE STUFF THAT YOU SPOUT OUT EVERY DAY. THANK YOU.

LAURA HOBBS, FOLLOWED BY DON DUCKETT.

THEN JENNIFER COLTER, DAVID HALLIGAN, AND CHRISTINA ROBINSON.

IS THIS OUR TOWN? WE'RE SPEAKING TO RIGHT NOW? YES. OKAY. OUR PUBLIC GOVERNMENTAL INSTITUTIONS HAVE BEEN WEAPONIZED AGAINST AMERICAN PEOPLE. NOTHING BETTER ILLUSTRATES THIS THAN THE TREASONOUS RUSSIA HOAX, THE STOLEN 2020 ELECTIONS, OR THE 34 FELONY CONVICTIONS AND THE TWO FAILED ASSASSINATION ATTEMPTS.

HOWEVER, WHAT WE'RE SEEING HERE ON OUR TEN IS A LOCAL VERSION OF WHAT'S HAPPENING AT THE NATIONAL LEVEL. INDIVIDUAL CITIZENS, THE LOCAL SWAMP, AND CORRUPT LOCAL OFFICIALS ARE COLLUDING TO MAKE THE LIVES OF PEOPLE THEY DISAGREE WITH POLITICALLY MISERABLE.

OUR PUBLIC RESOURCE DEPARTMENT IS NOTORIOUS FOR CONSTANTLY HARASSING PEOPLE TO THE POINT WHERE THEY SELL THEIR PROPERTY AND MOVE.

AND EVERY TIME THIS BOARD SUPPORTS THEIR ACTIVITY, YOU ARE COMPLICIT IN THE HARASSMENT.

THIS IS HOW IT WORKS. PUBLIC RESOURCE GETS A COMPLAINT FROM THE NEIGHBOR WHO DISAGREES WITH THEIR NEIGHBOR POLITICALLY, AND THE HENCHMAN OF THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT DOES THEIR DIRTY WORK.

IN THIS CASE, CHRISTIAN GARDNER WAS THE INDIVIDUAL WHO CALLED UP IN A FICTITIOUS COMPLAINT SAYING THAT HIS NEIGHBOR WAS SQUATTING ON THE LAND.

THEY WERE NOT SQUATTING.

STOP THE CLOCK. IT WAS THEIR LAND AND THEY WERE WAITING.

STOP. ONE SECOND. THIS IS FOR THE PEOPLE.

THIS IS ROBINSON VERSUS COUNTY OF SHASTA.

THAT'S WHAT SHE'S SPEAKING TO. SO LET ME CONTROL THE MEETING AND JUST PLEASE SHUT YOUR MOUTH AND LET THE PEOPLE SPEAK.

GO AHEAD. SO THEY WERE NOT SQUATTING ON THEIR LAND.

THEY THEIR HOUSE WAS BURNT DOWN DURING THE CARR FIRE.

AND, YOU KNOW, I WOULD LIKE TO CORRECT MY PREVIOUS STATEMENT.

THE INDIVIDUALS IN QUESTIONS WHO DARED TO CLAIM THEIR LAND AND NOT MOVE AWAY ARE ACTUALLY BEING ASKED TO PAY 34,000, NOT 750,000 IN LAWYER FEES.

AND THE PROBLEM IS THAT THEY'VE STILL NOT BEEN GRANTED A PERMIT TO REBUILD.

THIS IS RIDICULOUS. DON'T ALIGN YOURSELF WITH EVIL PEOPLE AND CORRUPT GOVERNMENTAL INSTITUTIONS THAT SEEK TO VICTIMIZE THE VICTIMS WHO HAVE ALREADY LOST EVERYTHING.

THIS HAPPENED IN THE CASE OF PACIFIC PALISADES, LAHAINA, AND IT'S ALSO HAPPENED TO THE EXODUS FARMS AND RIVER.

JOHN SELMO HERE AT THE LOCAL LEVEL.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. DAWN DUCKETT, JENNIFER COLTER.

DAVID HALLIGAN. CHRISTINA ROBINSON.

GOOD AFTERNOON. BOARD.

I'LL BE SPEAKING ON THE TRIBE AGREEMENT IN ITEM R TEN.

A COUPLE OF YOU WILL REMEMBER WHEN I SPOKE ON THE AGREEMENT WHEN IT WAS ORIGINALLY ON THE AGENDA, I WAS NEUTRAL AS TO WHETHER THE AGREEMENT WAS GOOD OR BAD.

AND LIKE THE JUDGE SAID, IN THIS CASE, YOU'RE ALLOWED TO MAKE BAD DECISIONS. AND THE CASE WASN'T THE CASE.

DECISION WASN'T BASED ON THE MERITS OF THE CONTRACT.

SO LET'S GET THAT STRAIGHT.

MY PROBLEM AT THE TIME WAS THAT THE BOARD DID NOT FOLLOW ITS OWN POLICY.

DASH. I BELIEVE IT'S SIX 101, WHICH IS YOUR PROCUREMENT POLICY.

AND I HAVE EXTENSIVE EXPERIENCE IN THAT.

AND I WAS CONCERNED THAT BECAUSE THE POLICY WASN'T FOLLOWED AND THE COUNTY ATTORNEY RISK MANAGEMENT NOR THE AUDITOR AND SEVERAL KEY PLAYERS WERE NOT INVOLVED IN REVIEWING THAT

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AGREEMENT THAT IT WOULD OPEN THE COUNTY UP TO LIABILITY AND LITIGATION, WHICH IS WHERE WE ARE TODAY.

SO I WANT TO REMIND YOU THAT WE ARE PICKING UP THE TAB FOR THIS.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST THAT THE BOARD ACQUIESCE TO THE COURTS.

BRING THAT BACK AND FOLLOW YOUR POLICY.

A LOT OF US WEREN'T SAYING IT WAS A TERRIBLE AGREEMENT.

I THOUGHT IT WAS LIGHT IN SOME AREAS.

BUT, YOU KNOW, HAVE YOUR ATTORNEYS LOOK AT IT, HAVE RISK MANAGEMENT, LOOK AT IT, FOLLOW YOUR PROCESS.

AND A LOT OF US WOULD BE OKAY WITH IT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. JENNIFER COLTER, DAVID HALLIGAN, CHRISTINA ROBINSON FOLLOWED BY LOU HECKER.

GOOD MORNING. SO PRIOR TO 2013, I OFTEN WALKED ALONG THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE RIVER TRAIL. AND TO BE HONEST, THERE WAS A STRETCH THAT I DREADED PASSING.

YOU KNOW, THERE WAS BARKING DOGS AND CLUTTER, AND I FELT IT WAS UNSAFE.

SO IMAGINE MY SURPRISE WHEN LATER THAT YEAR I'M INVITED TO THE ROBINSON'S HOUSE FOR DINNER. THEIR HOME WAS ALSO ON THAT LAND NEAR MIDDLE CREEK ROAD, AND IT WAS SURROUNDED BY GARDENS AND FLOWERS.

AND IT'S STEEPED IN THE HISTORY OF SHASTA COUNTY.

THEY LOVED TO LOVE TO SHARE STORIES ABOUT THE TOWN OF WAUGH, WHERE THEIR PROPERTY IS, AND THEY TALK TO THEIR GRANDCHILDREN, THEIR NEIGHBORS AND FRIENDS.

HOLIDAYS AT THE ROBINSONS HOUSE WERE MAGICAL AND EVERY GUEST IS TREATED LIKE ROYALTY.

THEN CAME THE CAR FIRE AND IT WAS DEVASTATING.

THEY LOST EVERYTHING. EVEN THEIR BELOVED PETS DIED IN THAT FIRE.

IT'S SO HARD TO WATCH YOUR FRIENDS.

THEY'RE READY TO REBUILD ON THE SAME PIECE OF LAND THAT THEIR HOUSE WAS ON AND THEIR GRANDMOTHER'S PRIOR TO THAT FOR 60 YEARS, AND THE COUNTY DENIED THE BUILDING PERMIT DUE TO AN EASEMENT. SINCE THEN, I'VE WATCHED THEM DO EVERYTHING ASKED PAYING FOR SURVEYS, REWORKING SITE PLANS, SEEKING ALTERNATIVE BUILDING SITES, AND IN RETURN THEY FACE MONTHS OF SILENCE AND AT SOMETIMES NECESSARY HARDSHIP, LIKE CUTTING THEIR POWER IN THE SUMMER AND FORCING THEM TO REMOVE THEIR POOL.

FOR MANY YEARS THEY'VE LIVED IN THIS TRAILER, MISSING THE HOLIDAYS. ANYWAY, I WANT TO SAY, I URGE YOU TO REALLY LOOK AT ALL THE CORRESPONDENCE THAT THE ROBINSONS HAVE PROVIDED WITH YOU, BECAUSE A LOT OF IT IS MISSING, I THINK, IN THE COURT DOCUMENTS THAT YOU'RE BASING SOME DECISIONS ON.

SO I JUST URGE YOU TO REALLY LOOK AT THE STUFF AND LET THEM HAVE CLOSURE.

GET A PERMIT AND REBUILD ON THEIR PROPERTY ALONG WITH THE EASEMENT OF PUBLIX PUBLIC ROAD. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

DAVID HALLIGAN. CHRISTINA ROBINSON.

LOU HECKER BOARD. I'M SPEAKING ON THE RANCHERIA AGREEMENT.

JULY 25TH OF 2023. THE FIRST ITEM, R1 WAIVE THE COUNTY'S POLICY REGARDING ENTERING INTO THIS CONTRACT.

I WANT EVERYBODY TO KNOW THAT THIS REALLY THE RANCHERIA HAS DONE NOTHING WRONG OTHER THAN NEGOTIATE VERY WELL AGAINST THE SUPERVISORS THAT MADE THAT DECISION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT. THEY HAVE DONE SO MUCH FOR OUR COMMUNITY, AND I DON'T WANT ANYTHING NEGATIVE ABOUT THE RANCHERIA.

IT'S ABOUT THE DECISIONS THAT YOU MADE.

JUDGE BAKER FOLLOWED UP THAT THE BOARD MAJORITY FAILED TO NOTIFY THE DEPARTMENTS IMPACTED BY THE DECISION, INCLUDING THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY, THE SHERIFF AND THE FIRE CHIEF. SECONDLY, THE COUNTY COUNSEL'S OFFICE AND RISK MANAGEMENT DIDN'T REVIEW THE INTERGOVERNMENTAL AGREEMENT AS REQUIRED BY COUNTY CONTRACTS MANUAL.

FINALLY, THE BOARD MAJORITY IGNORED THE FACT THAT THE COUNTY STAFF, THE SHERIFF, THE FIRE CHIEF, THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY AND ACTING COUNSEL ALL OPPOSED THE INTERGOVERNMENTAL AGREEMENT.

THEY WANTED MORE TIME.

I REMEMBER THE SHERIFF.

I'VE ONLY SEEN THIS LIKE SIX DAYS AGO.

DA BRIDGETT. I JUST SAW THIS YESTERDAY.

OKAY, SO. SO WHERE ARE WE RIGHT NOW? I WENT TO THE HEARING THAT JUDGE BAKER HAD LAST WEEK.

MR. L'AMOUR WAS THERE, AND I KNOW THAT AUGUST 18TH, THE LAND TRUST HAS TO SUBMIT THEIR FINAL ITEMS, AND THEN OUR COUNTY COUNCIL HAS 15 DAYS TO MAKE THEIR THING.

I DON'T WANT TO SEE US EVEN LOOK AT AN APPEAL UNTIL WE SEE WHERE WE'RE AT.

AND I WOULD LIKE TRANSPARENCY, MR. CRYE. I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHERE WE WERE AT.

WE WERE AT LIKE 260 000 IN FEBRUARY.

I REMEMBER MR. LONG SAYING, HEY, I CAN'T SPEND ANOTHER MILLION DOLLARS INTO THIS UNTIL I UNDERSTAND THE WIND PROJECT AS WELL AS THE THE RANCHERIA AGREEMENT.

AND THERE WAS SOME BUILDING ITEMS THERE.

HE VOTED FOR THE BUILDING ITEMS. THAT WAS IT. COULD WE PLEASE GET AN UPDATE? THANK YOU. CHRISTINA ROBINSON COME ON UP AND FOLLOWED BY LOU HECKER.

THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK BEFORE THE BOARD. AND KEVIN, FOR YOUR INVITATION AND YOUR PATIENCE WITH OUR IMPASSIONED PLEAS. OUR FAMILY HAS CONTINUOUSLY OWNED AND RESIDED ON

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THE PROPERTY AT MIDDLE CREEK ROAD SINCE 1957.

WE'VE NEVER BEEN NOTIFIED THAT THE COUNTY THAT WE ARE ENCROACHING ON ANY EASEMENT IN THE PRECEDING 61 YEARS TO THE FIRE.

NOT UNTIL AFTER THE FIRE, WHEN THE COUNTY SHOWS UP TO SAY THAT OUR 16 FOOT ROAD IS REALLY AN 80 FOOT WIDE ROAD AND WOULD NOT LET US REBUILD.

THE COUNTY HAS NEVER USED, WANTED OR NEEDED THIS ROAD FOR OVER 150 YEARS, SO THEY ABANDONED IT.

THEY HAD NEVER SURVEYED THIS EASEMENT, NOR COULD THEY PROVIDE ANY OWNERSHIP DOCUMENTATION WHATSOEVER ON THIS EASEMENT.

IN FACT, YOUR MOST KNOWLEDGEABLE TITLE RESEARCHER WHO HAD 50 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE, VICKI GIBSON, DISSEMINATED TO ALL THE COUNTY HEADS THAT THERE WAS NO EASEMENT, NO DEDICATION OR ACCEPTANCE OF AN EASEMENT.

AND THAT'S WHAT THE JUDGE RULED TO.

SO WHAT'S DRIVING THIS LITIGATION? WE FOUND A PARK PLANS FROM THE CITY OF REDDING AND A FOIA REQUEST.

AND THAT THEN IT MADE SENSE.

THEY NEEDED A 80 FOOT WIDE ROAD TO PUT IN A 15 CAR PARKING LOT IN A LEGAL TURNAROUND FOR A NEW TRAILHEAD WITHIN OUR PROPERTY. HOW MUCH DID THE COUNTY SPEND ON THIS LITIGATION? WERE YOUR ATTORNEYS LOST THEIR PRIMARY CLAIM? LOOK INTO THAT. I BET YOU SPENT 3 TO $500,000, ONLY TO LOSE THIS 80 FOOT CLAIM THAT WE BEGGED THEM TO SETTLE.

WHAT DID YOU GET FOR THAT MONEY? I KNOW WHAT I GOT. YOU WERE THE SUPERVISORS, AND YOU SHOULD KNOW WHAT YOU GOT FOR THAT.

OUR PROPERTY IS ONLY WORTH AROUND $100,000.

YOU COULD HAVE BOUGHT IT AND SAVED SEVERAL HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS. WE SPENT SEVEN YEARS LIVING IN A TRAILER PROVING THAT YOU DIDN'T HAVE AN 80 FOOT EASEMENT.

AND AGAIN, THAT'S WHAT THE JUDGE RULED.

YOU DON'T HAVE AN 80 FOOT EASEMENT.

SOMEHOW, YOUR ATTORNEYS HAVE CONVINCED THE JUDGE THAT WE TRIED TO CLOSE THE ROAD WHEN THERE WAS NO EVIDENCE OF THAT BEYOND US TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE YOU ABANDONED MIDDLE CREEK ROAD IN 1987, BECAUSE YOUR FILED DOCUMENTS SAY THAT THEY ABANDONED IT IN THE MIDDLE OF OUR PROPERTY AND NOT AT THE END.

BUT EVEN THAT, WE DECLINED TO PURSUE, AS IT DIDN'T GO TOWARDS OUR PRIMARY GOAL OF GAINING THE ABILITY TO REBUILD.

YOU CAN SEE BY THE SURVEY THAT WE FILED AND THE PLOT PLANS THAT WE FILED, THAT WE ACCEPTED THAT IT WAS A PUBLIC ROAD SEVERAL YEARS BEFORE THE TRIAL.

I KNOW YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO.

THANK YOU. LOU HECKER AND CHAIR.

THIS WILL BE OUR LAST SPEAKER FOR OUR TEN HOUR TEN.

YES. GREETINGS. MY NAME IS LOU HECKER, AND I'M HERE TODAY TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF MR. AND MRS. ROBINSON. I'VE BEEN A LICENSED CONTRACTOR IN CALIFORNIA SINCE 1989, LIVING IN COTTONWOOD, AND IN MAY OF 19 2019, AS PER FEMA'S REGS, I WAS RECRUITED BY THE CALFIRE COMMUNITY RECOVERY TEAM AND THE LOCAL NONPROFIT AGENCY THAT WORKED WITH FEMA, NORTHERN VALLEY CATHOLIC SOCIAL SERVICE TO FILL THE POSITION OF CONSTRUCTION COST ANALYST.

AND MY JOB WAS TO BE THE GATEKEEPER OR STOPGAP BETWEEN THOSE WHO LOST HOMES IN THE FIRE AND UNSCRUPULOUS VENDORS, CONTRACTORS OR ANY AGENCY WHO SOUGHT TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF CAR FIRE VICTIMS. I WAS THE SOLE INDIVIDUAL IN THIS CAPACITY AND WORKED ALONGSIDE NEARLY A DOZEN CASE MANAGERS WHO WERE ASSIGNED FIRE VICTIMS WHO, BY FEMA'S GUIDELINES, HAD BEEN THOSE HARDEST HIT.

THE ROBINSONS WERE AMONG THOSE HARDEST HIT.

THEY HAD NO HOMEOWNER'S INSURANCE AND HAD BEEN LAID OFF FROM EMPLOYMENT JUST A MONTH BEFORE THE FIRE AND OUT OF THE AREA WHEN THE FIRE BURNED THEIR HOME DOWN, LOSING EVERYTHING, INCLUDING THEIR PETS, FEMA AND THEREFORE OUR COUNTY HAD FUNDED A LIMITED NUMBER OF REPLACEMENT HOMES FOR THE PEOPLE MOST ADVERSELY AFFECTED, AND THE ROBINSONS QUALIFIED FOR SUCH A NEW HOME.

IT WAS A FEMA GRANT AND DID NOT NEED TO BE PAID BACK.

UNFORTUNATELY, DURING MY TENURE IN THIS POSITION, SHASTA COUNTY WAS NOT A FRIEND TO ANY OF THE CAR SURVIVORS.

THOSE OF US WHO FOCUSED ON GETTING VICTIMS BACK INTO NEW HOMES CONTINUALLY FACE MULTIPLE ROADBLOCKS AND RED TAPE, RATHER THAN THE HELPING HAND WE EXPECTED FROM THE COUNTY. THE ROBINSONS ARE TRAUMATIZED FIRE VICTIMS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN ALLOWED TO REBUILD ON THE VERY SPOT THEIR HOME HAS STOOD FOR THREE GENERATIONS.

I'M SHOCKED AND STUNNED THAT AFTER SEVEN YEARS, THE COUNTY COULD NOT JUST SOLVE ANY ISSUE THAT THEY CLAIM HAS PREVENTED THEM FROM GETTING A PERMIT. THIS IS SHAMEFUL, AND I IMPLORE YOU TO REMOVE ANY ROADBLOCKS THAT THE COUNTY HAS PLACED IN THE PATH OF THE ROBINSONS THAT HAVE PREVENTED THEM FROM REBUILDING A NEW HOME AND THEIR LIVES.

THANK YOU. CHAIR. THAT WAS OUR LAST SPEAKER FOR R TEN GOING TO R 11.

WE HAVE TWO SPEAKERS, JENNY AND BENJAMIN, FOR OUR 11.

YES. YES. I PASSED OVER FOR YOU. COME ON UP. 11. OH, SORRY.

YEAH. JUST JUST NOW THEY WERE SPEAKING TO.

JUST GO AHEAD. GO AHEAD.

JENNY. I DON'T WORK FOR THE COUNTY, SO I'M NOT, LIKE, NEGOTIATING FOR THE UNION OR ANYTHING.

THIS IS JUST MY OWN OPINION.

SO I HOPE THAT YOU PLEASE RESPECT YOUR EMPLOYEES AND LISTEN TO THEM.

THERE'S ALWAYS AN EXCUSE OF WHERE THE MONEY NEEDS TO GO OF WHY YOU CAN'T GIVE IT TO THEM, OF WHY YOU CAN'T LISTEN TO THEIR NEEDS.

MAYBE IT'S TIME TO CUT THE FAT OFF OTHER PROJECTS AND SEND THE MESSAGE TO YOUR EMPLOYEES THAT YOU RESPECT AND SUPPORT THEM AND PAY THEM WHAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR.

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KEVIN. YOU TOLD ME AT COFFEE.

I JUST HAD TO WAIT AND SEE.

SO WE'VE ALL BEEN WAITING.

CAN WE PLEASE SEE? LOOKS LIKE NOT.

HOW LONG HAVE THEY BEEN OUT OF CONTRACT NOW? IT'S NOT. IT'S NOT RIGHT.

BENJAMIN. NO. OKAY. AND THAT'S IT.

ALL RIGHT, SO WE HAVE R9R TEN AND R11R11.

SO I HAVE IS COUNSEL LARMER.

YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HELP ME NAVIGATE THIS.

ON R TEN AS IT RELATES TO ROBINSON VERSUS COUNTY OF SHASTA.

AND THIS IS WHERE THE ONE PERSON WAS SCREAMING OUT AND MAKING COMMENTS WHETHER THEY KNEW IT WAS BECAUSE IT INVOLVED THEM OR NOT, BUT THE PROCESS WAS NOT STALLED.

HERE'S THE BIGGEST QUESTION FOR ME ON THIS. AND I KNOW WE'VE DISCUSSED THIS. WE'VE HAD IT IN CLOSED SESSION. I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY TIMES THIS YEAR THIS MIGHT BE THE SECOND TIME WE'VE HAD IT. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF WE CAN'T BRING THIS OUT OF CLOSED SESSION AND BE ABLE TO ARTICULATE THIS IN PUBLIC.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF THE CLOSED SESSION CONVERSATION WOULD BE WE'D GO IN THERE TO CLOSED SESSION, DELIBERATE DISCUSS AND THEN BRING IT OUT. BECAUSE HERE'S THE BIGGEST ISSUE I HAVE WITH THIS.

AND THIS IS JUST TRYING TO HELP THE PUBLIC UNDERSTAND THIS.

THERE IS SO MUCH MEAT TO THIS.

AND PRETTY MUCH EVERYBODY LIKE COUNTY COUNCIL'S GONE.

THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT ARE LEFT ARE ESSENTIALLY THE HOMEOWNER.

AND THERE'S A LOT OF HE SAID, SHE SAID, AND YOU CAN GO BACK AND LOOK AT SOME OF THE COURT DOCUMENTS AND HERE'S WHAT'S TOUGH. AND I'LL TELL YOU, THIS IS WHY IT MATTERS. WHEN YOU COME UP IN PUBLIC, COMMENT AND SPEAK, REALLY ONE OF THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT THE COUNTY HAS SOME RECORD OF ON SOME OF THIS STUFF IS A FREQUENT PUBLIC SPEAKER THAT QUITE HONESTLY I'M NOT TAKING THEIR WORD FOR ANYTHING, QUITE HONESTLY BECAUSE THEY ARE SO OUTRAGEOUSLY OFF IN THEIR STATEMENTS.

SO I HAVE SOME AND I ALWAYS HAVE HAD CONCERNS WITH THIS.

AND THERE'S TIMES IT'S BEEN A FIVE ZERO VOTE, OTHER TIMES IT'S BEEN A I'VE BEEN THE ONLY VOTE. BUT I WANT TO BRING THIS OUT BECAUSE I THINK THAT THE PUBLIC DECIDES TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THIS CASE, BECAUSE SUPERVISOR GARMAN DIDN'T WANT TO TOUCH IT. IT IS SUPERVISOR LONG'S DISTRICT, AND I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHAT I CAN DO TO BRING THAT UP BECAUSE BECAUSE I THINK THIS PARTICULAR CASE IS REALLY TROUBLING TO ME.

AND IF SOME OF THE ROBINSON'S ACCUSATIONS ARE TRUE, IT'S JUST THE UTMOST EGREGIOUS CORRUPTION ON SO MANY LEVELS.

AND, AND MAYBE, MAYBE THEY'RE LIARS AND EVERYTHING TO IS NOT WHAT IT SEEMS. I JUST, I JUST FEEL IT'S SUCH A BAD PRECEDENT.

SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S THAT'S THE FIRST THING IN TERMS OF OUR TENT.

WELL, I'M SURE YOU'LL EXPECT THE FIRST PART, WHICH IS THAT WE WOULD NEVER RECOMMEND HAVING DISCUSSION OF A LITIGATION MATTER IN OPEN.

I THINK IN A CASE LIKE THIS YOU KNOW, AS I PROVIDE THE BOARD WITH INFORMATION, IT'S PROBABLY JUST GOING TO LEAD TO AN ARGUMENT.

I THINK I UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERNS.

WE'VE HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THAT AND YOU KNOW, I'VE TRIED TO PREPARE YOU AND SHOW YOU ALL OF THE INFORMATION THAT YOU WERE INTERESTED IN SEEING. YOU COULD MAKE A MOTION TO HAVE IT IN OPEN.

I WOULD ADVISE AGAINST THAT.

OKAY. I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION AND I DON'T EXPECT IT PROBABLY TO GET A SECOND.

AND IT'S NOT SYMBOLIC BECAUSE TO ME IT'S JUST PERPLEXING.

BUT I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE BRING IT OUT OF CLOSED SESSION. WELL I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION. OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

CAUGHT OFF GUARD BY THAT. I DIDN'T THINK I'D GET A SECOND. SO. OKAY. SO THE SO WE'LL, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION AMONG MY BOARD MEMBERS ABOUT THAT? AND I DIDN'T EVEN, I DIDN'T TALK TO ANY OF THE BOARD MEMBERS ABOUT IT. IT'S JUST LET'S TALK ABOUT THE RISK. OKAY.

ASK COUNCIL. I MEAN, HERE'S HERE'S MY THE QUESTION IS WHAT'S.

LET'S TALK ABOUT THE RISK.

I, I COULDN'T, I COULDN'T, I COULDN'T AGREE MORE ABOUT THE RISK, BUT THE RISK FOR ME OF, OF GOING TO BED AT NIGHT KNOWING THAT I GOT IT WRONG OR I HAD TO RELY BECAUSE WE'RE HAVING, WE HAVE TO RELY ON SO MUCH HEARSAY OF OTHER PEOPLE.

AND IT'S TROUBLING BECAUSE OUR PAST COUNTY COUNCIL DIDN'T KEEP A DATABASE OF RECORDS OF STUFF. SO WE CAN'T GET WE CAN'T LOOK AT NOTES, WE ONLY HAVE OUR OUTSIDE COUNSEL AND WE HAVE JUDGES DECISIONS.

AND THEN WE HAVE THE CONSTITUENTS.

AND AND I KNOW COUNSEL LARMER IT'S, WE'RE NOT RETRYING IT.

I DON'T, I DON'T WANT TO RETRY IT BECAUSE WE'RE KIND OF FAR DOWN THAT ROAD.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME, THIS HAS BEEN ONE OF THE THINGS SINCE I'VE TAKEN OFFICE IN 23, EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT MY DISTRICT.

I DON'T KNOW. YOU GET FACTS.

YOU COULD ASK COUNSEL LARMER.

WELL, SOME OF THE THINGS I HEARD, SOME OF THE THINGS I HEARD IN HER STATEMENT THERE. I MEAN, IT REMINDED ME OF, YES, PAST COUNTY COUNCILS AND THE ISSUES WE

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HAD THERE, AS WELL AS PAST RESOURCE MANAGEMENT AND A LOT OF THE ISSUES WE HAD THERE. AND I MEAN, I'M VERY HAPPY TO SAY THAT A LOT OF THOSE ISSUES HAVE BEEN TURNED AROUND. BUT IF SOMETHING HAPPENED BACK THEN, I, I HOLD A LOT OF WATER THERE THAT WHAT SHE'S SAYING IS TRUE BECAUSE I KNOW THE HISTORY.

I MEAN, IT'S ONE OF THE THINGS I RAN ON IS SOME OF THESE THINGS JUST LIKE THIS RIGHT HERE. SO THAT'S WHY. AND AGAIN, AND AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TRANSPARENCY, WE HAVE JENNIFER COLTER, WHO IS THE DIRECTOR OF A NONPROFIT THAT I HAVE BEEN AFFILIATED WITH.

AND WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT HER CHARACTER AND, AND WHO SHE IS AND AND THEN WE HAVE CHRISTIAN GARDNER WHO COMES UP AND SPEAKS.

AND IF WE'RE LOOKING AT CHARACTER WITNESSES OR PEOPLE THAT ARE THERE, I PAY ATTENTION TO THAT. AND THAT'S WHY WHEN YOU COME UP IN PUBLIC COMMENT, IT MATTERS.

SUPERVISOR. PLUMMER. YEAH, I GUESS WHAT SPECIFICALLY ARE WE HOPING TO BRING OUT INTO PUBLIC DISCUSSION THROUGH YOUR MOTION? SO WHAT I WANT TO BE ABLE TO TALK ABOUT IS, WELL, SO AND THAT'S THAT'S A GREAT POINT BECAUSE I KNOW WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT THAT.

SO HERE'S, HERE'S MY QUESTION FOR SUPERVISOR LARMOUR BECAUSE I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE AND I CAN'T DISCLOSE SOME OF THAT.

AND I DON'T EVEN KNOW NECESSARILY.

SO MY REQUEST WOULD BE THAT WE EITHER.

IS THIS TIME SENSITIVE? NO. OH WELL. YES. BUT MY REQUEST WOULD BE WE'VE GOT A MOTION IN A SECOND.

YOU EITHER BRING IT OUT OF CLOSED SESSION AND HAVE THIS CONVERSATION OR YOU TAKE IT INTO CLOSED SESSION. SO. SO LET ME ASK YOU THIS. WHEN YOU SAY IT'S TIME SENSITIVE. SO IF WE GO INTO CLOSED SESSION AND WE UNDERSTAND THAT, THEN CAN WE BRING THIS BACK POSSIBLY TO THE NEXT MEETING WHERE IT'D BE AN OPEN SESSION ITEM? SO IS THE TIME OKAY FOR THAT? THE REALITY IS TO YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HEAR ALL THE FACTS THAT YOU'RE DISCUSSING TODAY.

WE'RE ONLY DISCUSSING ABOUT A SETTLEMENT AS IT RELATES TO ATTORNEYS OR COSTS.

THAT'S THE ONLY THING.

WE CAN'T BRING IT RIGHT BACK OUT OF CLOSED SESSION HERE IN JUST A BIT.

SO AGAIN, I WOULD HAVE A RECOMMENDATION THAT YOU VOTE ON YOUR MOTION.

AND WE TAKE IT IN A CLOSED SESSION. YOU CAN HAVE MORE OF THESE CONVERSATIONS IN THERE.

BUT THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION.

SO SO MY QUESTION THOUGH IS WHAT WHY WE'RE IN THERE.

WE CAN HAVE THE MICROPHONE.

WE CAN HAVE THAT DISCUSSION WHEN WE'RE IN THERE. AND I CAN EXPLAIN ALL THE PROS AND CONS. I THINK WE CAN DETERMINE THEN WHETHER TO WHAT WE WANT TO REPORT OUT, BUT WE CAN'T NECESSARILY BRING IT BACK OUT FOR OPEN DISCUSSION, YOU KNOW, SO SO I'LL PULL MY MOTION IF YOU'RE OKAY WITH THAT.

WE'LL DO THAT. AND THEN WE CAN WE CAN TAKE IT FROM THERE.

OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

SO AND THEN I HAVE A COMMENT ALSO ON THE SHASTA ON THE CALIFORNIA LAND STEWARDSHIP COUNCIL. I WANT TO MAKE, AND I'M GOING TO READ THIS BECAUSE I WANTED TO MAKE SURE I GOT THIS RIGHT.

AND ACTUALLY, I'VE ALREADY SAID THIS, BUT I'M GOING TO SAY IT AGAIN AND I WANT TO SAY IT THE EXACT SAME WAY.

JUDGE BAKER RULED THAT THE CONTRACT SHASTA COUNTY ENTERED INTO WITH THE REDDING RANCHERIA WAS AN ILLEGAL CONTRACT. HIS RULING SAYS THAT WE DIDN'T NOTIFY OR PROPERLY WORK WITH THE DEPARTMENT HEADS OR ELECTEDS THAT WERE AFFECTED.

THAT'S CRAZY ON TWO FRONTS.

ONE WE DID. AND TWO, WE DON'T HAVE TO.

AND I COULD GO INTO A LOT OF HISTORY IN TERMS OF WHEN THESE NEGOTIATIONS STARTED 2019.

NONE OF US WERE ACTUALLY ON THAT BOARD IN 2019 WHEN THESE BEGAN TO TAKE PLACE.

THAT BOARD ACTUALLY AT THAT TIME THAT THESE NEGOTIATIONS TOOK PLACE WAS US DISTRICT ONE WAS JOE CLEMENTE, DISTRICT TWO WAS LEONARD MODY, DISTRICT THREE WAS MARY RICKERT, DISTRICT FOUR WAS STEVE MORGAN IN DISTRICT FIVE WAS LES BOS. SO THESE NEGOTIATIONS ACTUALLY STARTED IN 2019.

AND THEY WERE ALSO LED BY OUTSIDE COUNSEL PERKINS COIE, WHO WAS HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON'S LAW FIRM.

SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT HAVING OUTSIDE COUNSEL BEING HIRED TO BE BROUGHT IN, WE ACTUALLY WERE HIRING THAT MAJOR LAW FIRM TO NEGOTIATE WITH CHAIRMAN POTTER AND TRACY EDWARDS, WHO'S THE CEO.

SO THAT'S JUST OUTRAGEOUS TO ME THAT WE EVER SPENT THAT MONEY TO BRING THAT IN THE THE NEXT COMPONENT I REALLY I'M GOING TO AND I'M GOING TO REALLY FAST FORWARD SOME OF THIS.

BUT IF YOU REMEMBER THE EX SHERIFF AND EX CEO ERIC MAGRINI, WHO WAS HIRED RIGHT AFTER TWO VOTES OF NO CONFIDENCE HERE NOR THERE, BUT HE WAS HIRED TO BE THE ASSISTANT CEO TO HELP, IN PART, LEAD NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE TRIBE.

AND AGAIN, THAT WAS BEFORE ANY OF US WERE THERE.

SO WHAT I'M MAKING SURE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND IS NEGOTIATIONS WERE TAKING PLACE FOR A VERY LONG TIME, A VERY LONG TIME WITH THE TRIBE AND WITH THE COUNTY.

AND WE WEREN'T HERE. WE WEREN'T PRIVY TO ANY OF THAT STUFF MUCH LIKE YOU, BUT THIS WAS TAKING PLACE.

SO BY THE TIME 23 ROLLS AROUND AND AFTER THE SUCCESSFUL RECALL OF LEONARD MODY AND TIM GARMAN TOOK OFFICE, OBVIOUSLY THE THE SUPPORT FOR THE TRIBE BEGAN TO INCREASE AGAIN BEFORE SUPERVISOR KELSTROM AND I WERE THERE IN OFFICE.

NOW I WANT TO HELP PEOPLE UNDERSTAND IF WE GOT ONE PENNY, THAT WOULD BE A JOKE, BUT IT'S ONE PENNY MORE THAN WE'VE RECEIVED SINCE THE MID 90S, WHEN REDDING RANCHERIA AND THE WIND RIVER CASINO STARTED.

SO NOW FAST FORWARD. ALL THIS TIME WE'VE RECEIVED ZERO.

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YOU WANT TO KNOW WHY? IS BECAUSE FEDERALLY WE HAVE TO SUPPLY EMERGENCY AND LAW ENFORCEMENT SERVICES. SO THIS IS WHERE I BEGIN TO SAY PEOPLE WANT TO SAY, OH, I'M VERY, VERY PRO TRIBE.

BUT BUT BUT I'M VERY PRO TRIBE.

BUT BUT, BUT IT BEGINS TO ME TO FEEL ALMOST LIKE RACISM THAT PEOPLE ARE SO AGAINST THIS TRIBE AND WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

BECAUSE HERE'S THE REALITY.

FEDERAL LAW SAYS WE HAVE TO PROVIDE THOSE SERVICES.

AND GUESS WHAT? WE HAVE.

SO BY THE TIME I CAUGHT WIND OF THIS DEAL ALMOST BEING PULLED OFF THE TABLE WHERE WE WOULD GET ANYTHING. I APPROACHED CEO RICKERT AND SAID, HEY, WE PROBABLY SHOULD GET THIS ON THE AGENDA. HE HAD BEEN HERE MAYBE ALL OF 15 MINUTES, MAYBE A MONTH OR TWO.

I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF YOU HAD YOUR FIRST MEETING WITH THE TRIBE AT THAT POINT. I KNOW SUPERVISOR GARMAN NOW HAS TALKED TO AT THE TIME, CHAIR JONES, ABOUT GETTING THIS ON.

SO FOR ME, DO I THINK IT WAS A GREAT, GREAT DEAL? COULD A BETTER DEAL HAVE BEEN MADE? I THINK SO, BECAUSE WHAT IS THE REDDING RANCHERIA IS TAGLINE.

PROUD TO DO OUR PART. WELL, GUESS WHAT? THEIR PART MIGHT HAVE BEEN A LITTLE BIT MORE IF THIS COMMUNITY, THIS COMMUNITY, SHASTA COUNTY REDDING AND THE OTHER JURISDICTIONS HAD TREATED THEM LIKE THE SOVEREIGN NATION THEY ARE AND TREATED THEM WITH MORE RESPECT, BUT THEY CONTINUE TO SPIT ON THEM AND PUSH THEM OVER.

KEEP IN MIND THE BETHEL CAMPUS OFF OF COLLIER IN THAT AREA AND THE RANCHERIA PROJECT CAME ABOUT ABOUT THE SAME TIME.

SO THE POWER BROKERS AND THE POWERS THAT BE.

GUESS WHAT? ONE BUILDING IS PUTTING SIDEWALKS IN THE OTHER BUILDINGS A DIRT LOT.

AND GUESS WHAT? THE ONE ORGANIZATION IS A SOVEREIGN NATION.

SO AT THIS POINT, IF THEY THUMB THEIR NOSE AT US AND SAY, FORGET IT, YOU DON'T GET ANOTHER DIME FOR THE NEXT 30 YEARS.

FEDERALLY, WE'RE STUCK WITH THAT.

SO CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL THE PEOPLE THAT SCREAMED.

WE COULD HAVE GOT MORE BECAUSE WE'VE GOTTEN A FAT ZERO SO FAR.

SO NICE NEGOTIATING ON THAT.

I BELIEVE THE CITY, I BELIEVE THE TRIBAL COUNCIL, JACK POTTER AND TRACY EDWARDS WILL ABSOLUTELY STEP UP BECAUSE IT'S THE RIGHT THING AND THEY CARE ABOUT THIS COMMUNITY. BUT I PERSONALLY, AS ONE SUPERVISOR WANT TO APOLOGIZE TO THE WAY REDDING RANCHERIA.

THE TRIBAL MEMBERS AND ALL THE ENTIRE TRIBE HAS BEEN TREATED BY THIS COUNTY.

SO I'M GOING TO ASK YOU KNOW WHAT? I'M GOING TO I'M GOING TO LEAVE IT AT THAT BECAUSE WE'LL GO INTO CLOSED SESSION. BUT I WILL JUST SAY RIGHT NOW, I HOPE I'M ONE SUPERVISOR, BUT I HOPE WE APPEAL IT BECAUSE PERSONALLY, PERSONALLY, THERE IS NO NO JURISDICTION UNDER WHATSO WHATSOEVER THAT WE HAVE TO COMMUNICATE WITH OTHER PEOPLE. WE HAVE THE JURISDICTION AND THE ABILITY TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS.

ALL RIGHT. SO WITH THAT ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO WE'LL BE RECESSED FOR A MINIMUM OF AN HOUR.

WE WILL NOT BE BACK UNTIL TWO.

AND THEN WE WILL TAKE AFTER THAT.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. RETURNING FROM CLOSED SESSION COUNSEL LARMER,

[REPORT OF CLOSED SESSION ACTIONS]

IS THERE ANY REPORTABLE ACTION? THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. ON ITEM R9, THERE IS NO REPORTABLE ACTION ON ITEM R TEN, THE REPORTABLE ACTION UNDER CALIFORNIA LAND STEWARDSHIP COUNCIL, LLC VERSUS COUNTY OF SHASTA.

THE BOARD VOTED FIVE ZERO TO HIRE GREEN, MARTIN STEIN AND RICHARD LLP.

APPELLATE COUNSEL ITEM.

PAR 11. NO REPORTABLE ACTION.

NOTHING FURTHER. ARE WE ARE WE REPORTING OUT? YOU REPORTED OUT ON. THERE WAS NO.

WASN'T THERE ONE ON THE FIRST CASE LISTED? NO. REPORTABLE. NO. OKAY. NO REPORT. OKAY.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE.

[R8 Receive a presentation from the County Clerk/Registrar of Voters, and approve budget amendments which increase appropriations and net county cost by $2,580,283 in the Elections Admin & Registration Budget (BU 140) and transfer funds from the Accumulated Capital Outlay Budget (BU 161) to General Revenue and Transfers (BU 100) offset by use of Committed Funds-General Fund Infrastructure.]

MOVING ON TO R8R8, MR. CURTIS MR. CURTIS.

DO I NEED TO DO HERE? THAT'S FORWARD.

THAT'S BACKWARDS. GOTCHA.

HELLO THERE EVERYBODY.

WELCOME. BASICALLY, I'M HERE TO BEG FOR A LOT OF MONEY.

IF YOU CAN'T GO TO THE. PULL THE MICROPHONE. I'M SORRY. THANK YOU. BETTER? YEP.

PERFECT. I'M HERE TO BEG FOR A LOT OF MONEY SO WE CAN HAVE A NEW BUILDING WHERE WE CAN ACTUALLY SUCCEED IN HAVING ELECTIONS THAT EVERYONE CAN TRUST.

THE BUILDING THAT WE HAVE IS SMALL, CRAMPY, AND IT'S BASICALLY KIND OF AN OFFICE SPACE. SO EVERYTHING IS KIND OF PUSHED AROUND.

NO ONE CAN REALLY SEE IT.

THE OBSERVERS BASICALLY GET ABUSED TO STAY OUT OF THE WAY.

AND IT'S JUST IT'S JUST HORRIBLE SETUP.

THERE'S NO PARKING. IT'S NOT ADA COMPLIANT.

IT'S A MESS. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT THE JO-ANN FABRICS BUILDING AND IT PROVIDES A LOT OF

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FREE PARKING, 160 SPACES HAS SIX DISABLED PARKING, PARKING SPACES. BUT OF COURSE, IT COULD HAVE MORE BECAUSE THERE'S ANOTHER 20 ON THE SIDE AND IN THE FRONT THAT COULD BE EXPANDED IF WE NEEDED MORE.

IT HAS THE EXISTING LOCATION, AS I SAID, HAS NO PARKING AT ALL, NO DISABLED PARKING. IT'S JUST THERE IS A BILL OUT RIGHT NOW.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S PASSED OR BEEN KILLED OR WHATEVER, BUT IT'S BASICALLY REQUIRING ANY PLACE WHERE YOU'RE DOING PROCESSING OR YOU'RE HAVING A POLLING LOCATION TO HAVE FREE PARKING AND TO BE ADA COMPLIANT.

AND THE BUILDING WE HAVE COULD NEVER BE THAT.

SO IT'S JUST NOT POSSIBLE.

THE OPEN FLOOR PLAN ALLOWS US TO HAVE THE TABULATORS SO THAT WE CAN HAVE EVERY EVERY BALLOT CAN BE COUNTED RIGHT AFTER THE ELECTION.

DOESN'T HAVE TO BE COUNTED EARLY. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE OPENED EARLY. EVERYTHING IS COUNTED AT THE ELECTION DAY. AND THAT PROVIDES A LOT OF SECURITY THAT WE PRESENTLY DON'T HAVE. IT ALSO ALLOWS A BETTER CHAIN OF CUSTODY BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WHAT HAPPENS IS THEY OPEN THE BALLOTS IN.

WHEN THEY COME IN, THEY STICK THEM IN THIS ROOM THAT ONLY NEEDS A KEYCARD TO GET IN.

SO ANYBODY IN THE STAFF OR ME OR ANYBODY CAN GO INTO THAT ROOM AND THEY HAVE THOSE BALLOTS SITTING OPEN, UNBLOCKED, UNSEALED IN THESE LITTLE BLUE CONTAINERS UNTIL THEY'RE READY TO COUNT THEM. WHICH MEANS IF I WANTED TO WALK IN THERE AND PUT IN 2700 BALLOTS, ALL YOU'RE GOING TO DO IS HAVE A PROBLEM WHEN YOU RECONCILE, BUT YOU'RE NEVER GOING TO CATCH WHERE IT HAPPENS AND YOU'RE GOING TO CATCH WHAT'S GOING ON. YOU CAN'T HAVE THAT.

EVERYTHING NEEDS TO BE SEALED. EVERYTHING NEEDS TO BE LOCKED. SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE TUBS. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE FOUR SEALS ON EACH ONE.

IF THE BALLOT COMES IN AND THERE'S ONLY ONE, YOU HAVE TO BREAK THOSE SEALS, RECORD THE PROCESS, PUT THAT ONE BALLOT IN THEIR UNOPENED, SLOP IT BACK DOWN AND RESEAL IT.

THAT'S THE WAY YOU HOLD AN ELECTION.

WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, THERE ARE THIRD WORLD COUNTRIES THAT I'VE MONITORED THAT ARE BETTER THAN THAT.

THAT IS JUST HORRIBLE. WE ALSO HAVE THE CAMERAS.

IF WE HAVE THE BALLOT SYSTEM WHERE WE HAVE THE TABULATORS, WE CAN SET THEM ALL UP WHERE PEOPLE CAN SEE THEM, OBSERVERS BEHIND THEM, CAMERAS ON TOP OF THEM.

YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SEE EVERY BALLOT THAT'S ACTUALLY AS CAST AS LONG AS IT ISN'T A BALLOT WHERE IT CAN IDENTIFY THE VOTER. SO IF THE VOTER GOES IN AND SCRIBBLES A MARK ON THERE, THAT BECOMES AN IDENTIFYING MARK THAT HAS TO GO TO ADJUDICATION.

ADJUDICATION WILL BE PEOPLE FROM THE COMMUNITY, THE RESPECTED PEOPLE, THE COMMUNITY THAT ACTUALLY WILL DECIDE IF THAT HOW THAT BALLOTS TO BE COUNTED.

IT WILL GO OVER TO THE ADJUDICATION COMPUTERS.

AND WE WON'T BE COUNTING THAT.

THEY'LL BE COUNTING IT AND MARKING HOW IT IS, BECAUSE THAT CAN'T BE ON CAMERA. SO THE ONLY THING YOU'RE GOING TO SEE ARE THE BALLOTS ALL LOOK ALIKE, BUT YOU'LL SEE EVERY ONE AND IT WILL BE LIVE STREAMED AND IT'LL BE RECORDED SO EVERYONE WILL KNOW THAT THE ELECTION IS VALID.

AND ORIGINALLY I THOUGHT WE WERE GETTING A LITTLE PUSHBACK FROM THE, THE VENDORS FROM HEART, BUT THEY ACTUALLY LOVE IT BECAUSE THEY SAID, YOU KNOW, WE GET BLAMED FOR THINGS NOT BEING RIGHT, BUT WHAT YOU'RE DOING, WE EVERYONE WILL KNOW THAT WHAT GOES IN TO THAT COMPUTER IS WHAT WE'RE COUNTING.

AND THEY SHOULD MATCH.

AND THEY SAID IF THEY DON'T MATCH WHAT YOU HAVE THE CRIME SCENE. SOMETHING'S GOING ON.

SO BECAUSE THEY'RE AWARE THAT COMPUTERS CAN BE HACKED, THEY'VE ACTUALLY SAID THAT, YOU KNOW, PUBLICLY, WHICH IS GOOD, THAT PEOPLE ACTUALLY ACKNOWLEDGE THE PROBLEM.

WE ALSO HAVE IT COUNTED AGAIN AFTERWARDS, WHICH SAWS IT ALL UP.

THAT PROCESS WILL ALLOW US TO COUNT EVERY BALLOT EARLY MAIL IN AND AT ELECTION DAY, WHEN 1.87 HOURS AT NIGHT AND EVERYTHING GETS COUNTED.

AND YOU'LL HAVE A TOTAL.

NOW, IN CALIFORNIA, OF COURSE, YOU HAVE TEN MORE DAYS FOR THINGS TO COME IN, BUT YOU WILL BASICALLY KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING WITHIN LESS THAN TWO HOURS.

WE CAN'T DO THAT THE INITIAL BUILDING BECAUSE WE SIMPLY DON'T HAVE ROOM TO SPREAD THAT OUT, WHICH IS A PROBLEM AS WELL.

ALSO, IT DOESN'T HAVE THE ELECTRICAL CAPABILITIES THAT WE WOULD NEED BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE 20 TABULATORS AND YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE PRINTERS.

YOU KNOW, THEY TAKE A LOT OF POWER.

THAT BUILDING IS PROBABLY ABOUT A THOUSAND YEARS OLD, AND IT DOESN'T HAVE THE RIGHT WIRING.

WE WOULD HAVE TO PUT A LOT OF MONEY INTO IT TO SUSTAIN SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

AND THAT SIMPLY ISN'T PRACTICAL. WITH THE OPEN FLOOR PLAN, WE CAN PUT THE OBSERVERS SO THEY CAN SEE EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENS.

THEY CAN BE RIGHT BY THE PERSON RIGHT BEHIND THEM.

I'M GOING TO PUT THEM ON STOOLS, PEOPLE ON THE SEATS, THEY'LL SEE EVERYTHING THAT GOES ON WITH A CLOSED FLOOR PLAN OR EVERYTHING IN LITTLE ROOMS TUCKED AWAY.

IF YOU'VE BEEN TO THE MARKET STREET THING, BUT IT'S GOT A BUNCH OF LITTLE. IT'S AN OFFICE BUILDING, YOU KNOW, IT'S PROBABLY FINE FOR AN OFFICE BUILDING.

IT'S NOT MUCH FOR FOR AN ELECTION.

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LET'S SEE, ALSO HAS A RAISED DOCK.

WE GET A LOT OF HEAVY STUFF IN, AND RIGHT NOW THE STAFF HAS TO KIND OF TOTE THAT AROUND. SO IT'S IT'S AWKWARD, IT'S BAD, OR THEY'RE ALL WORRIED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, PUTTING TOO MUCH WEIGHT INTO THE SERVICE ELEVATOR BECAUSE IT STICKS ON THEM.

SO YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST AN OLD THING.

OKAY. IT EVEN HAS A CARDBOARD BOX COMPACTOR, WHICH IS NICE, YOU KNOW? I MEAN, IT'S NOT REQUIRED WITH A BUILDING, BUT IT'S WORTH ABOUT $200,000.

IT'S STILL GOING TO SIT THERE AND ALL THE BOXES THEY NOW HAVE TO SPEND TIME CRUSHING BY HAND. THEY THROW IN AND IT EATS IT.

IT CAN BE SEPARATED INTO DIFFERENT SPACES IF WE DECIDE TO MOVE THE CLERK'S SPOT THERE, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE TO, WE CAN LEAVE IT WHERE IT IS.

IN FACT, WHAT WE COULD DO IF WE WANT TO CUT DOWN ON A LITTLE BIT OF COST, IS WE COULD TAKE THE CLERK'S OFFICE AND PUT IT BACK OVER IN MARKET STREET WHERE IT WAS ORIGINALLY, AND THEN THAT WOULD CUT DOWN THAT EXTRA COST.

AND IT CAN SIT THERE FOR A WHILE.

THERE'S STILL NO PARKING FOR THE CLERK AREA, BUT IT'S NOT PERFECT.

BUT YOU'VE GOT AT LEAST YOU HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT FOR ANOTHER EIGHT, NINE, TEN MONTHS. WE CAN UTILIZE THAT LEASE BY STICKING THAT OVER THERE.

IF WE DO THAT, BECAUSE YOU'LL SEE IN YOUR IN YOUR CLOSING THERE, THERE WAS LIKE A REQUEST FOR $2 MILLION OR SOMETHING.

MOST OF THAT OCCURS BECAUSE OF MOVING THE CLERK'S STATION OVER TO HAVE THE PEOPLE OVER THERE. IF WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE THE PEOPLE OVER THERE, IF WE JUST USE IT FOR THE ELECTIONS AT THIS POINT, YOU CAN ALWAYS DO IT LATER. WE DON'T NEED THAT EXTRA $1.2 MILLION, AND INITIALLY, WE DON'T EVEN WANT TO MOVE IT OVER BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO TRY AND MAKE IT HAPPEN BY NOVEMBER FOR THE ELECTION SO WE CAN ACTUALLY HAVE THE ELECTION WHERE IT WILL BE GOOD. AND IF WE HAVE TO MOVE THE CLERK'S AND PUT IN OTHER STUFF, IT WILL ACTUALLY SLOW DOWN THAT PROCESS. WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF TIME, SO I HAVE TO QUIT.

YOU'RE GOOD. I KNOW. SO WE'RE NOT REALLY REQUESTING THE 2.5 MILLION.

IF YOU GO TO THE SECOND BUDGET OPTION, IT'S 1.2.

AND MOST OF THAT IS ACTUALLY THE CAMERAS, THE TABULATORS, THE EQUIPMENT. CAN YOU MOVE THE SLIDE TO THE NEXT ONE? I THINK YOU'RE TALKING ON THE NEXT SLIDE. OH WE'LL HAVE TO GET DOWN THERE.

OKAY. WANT ME TO FOLLOW THIS? I'LL FOLLOW THIS. BUILDINGS 88 COMPLIANT.

THE RESTROOMS. IT EVEN HAS A BRAILLE ON ALL OF THE SIGNS, SO IT'S FULLY COMPLIANT.

AIR CONDITIONING WOULD BE WARRANTED BY THE OWNER, SO IT'S NOT A PROBLEM.

ELECTRICAL CONNECTIONS ARE IN EVERY COLUMN.

IT IS SET UP WELL, LOCATED IN A MAJOR COMMERCIAL AREA SO EVERYBODY CAN GET TO IT.

HAS SIGNAGE BOTH ON DANA DRIVE AND THE HIGHWAY.

AND IT WOULD HAVE A DRIVE UP POSITION FOR A DROP BOX FOR THE BOX THAT I HAVE TO PUT BY THE OFFICE. SAY HALF A MILE FROM WALMART.

PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION IS 500FT AWAY FROM THE BUILDING.

IN FACT, THAT'S ONE OF THE HUBS.

SO YOU CAN GET THERE QUICK. YOU CAN GET THERE EASY.

YOU DON'T HAVE A CAR. WELL, I CAN'T IMAGINE NOT HAVING A CAR IN READING.

I THINK IT'D BE TOUGH TO GET AROUND.

ONE OF THE IMPORTANT THINGS IS THE BUILDING IS ACTUALLY AVAILABLE AND THAT'S VERY TOUGH TO DO IF WE DON'T DO THIS NOW.

WE THAT BUILDING WILL NOT BE AVAILABLE IN A YEAR.

IT JUST WON'T. IT'LL BE IMPOSSIBLE.

IT'S IN TOO GOOD A SHAPE AND IT'S IN THE AREA EVERYBODY WANTS TO BE IN.

IF WE WAIT FOR ANOTHER MONTH TO FIND ANOTHER BUILDING, THEN WE WON'T HAVE TIME TO GET NOVEMBER THERE.

IT ISN'T GOING TO HAPPEN.

SO THIS ELECTION WOULD HAVE TO BE SOMEHOW CRAMMED INTO THAT LITTLE THING OVER ON MARKET STREET, THREE MINUTES FROM 44 AND I-5, AND IT HAS FIBER COMING IN, WHICH MEANS WHEN WE WANT TO DO THE THE LIVE STREAMING AND THE RECORDING FOR THE CAMERAS SO EVERYONE CAN SEE IT AS IT GOES, THE FIBER IS ALREADY INSTALLED.

I DON'T THINK WE HAVE FIBER OVER IN MARKET STREET.

I HEAR A LOT OF COMPLAINTS ABOUT MARKET STREET AND HOW IT WORKS. SO IT'S NOT NOT GOOD TO HAVE LIVE STREAMING IF IT DOESN'T ACTUALLY WORK, BUT YOU JUST HAVE IS COMPLAINTS THEN.

LET'S SEE. ALLOWS FOR EVERY PROCESS TO BE SEEN.

IT'S BIG. ALL I WANT IS A BIG OPEN SPACE.

I DON'T WANT OFFICES. I DON'T WANT ANYTHING FANCY, JUST A BIG OPEN SPACE, WHICH IS WHAT WE GOT.

AND YOU CAN SEE EVERY PROCESS.

YOU CAN DO THE PRINTING, YOU CAN DO THE MAILING, YOU CAN DO THE TABULATION.

AND WE EVEN HAVE A PLACE WHERE YOU CAN DO THE VOTING. WHEN YOU GET TO THE PRINTER PORTION, THAT'S AN IMPORTANT PORTION BECAUSE THAT WILL SAVE ABOUT $150,000 FOR EVERY ELECTION THAT WE HAVE IN THAT BUILDING. IF WE PRINT THEM OURSELVES, WE HAVE TO SHIP IT ALL OUT. SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S GOING TO COST MORE, BUT YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE IT UP ON EACH ELECTION. SO EVENTUALLY WE'LL BE MAKING A PROFIT.

LET'S SEE. PROBLEMS WITH THE PRESENT BUILDING.

I NEED TO TELL YOU THIS.

THE PRESENT BUILDING IS TERRIBLE. YOU KNOW, IT'S IT'S SET UP FOR OFFICES AND MOST OF THE

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SPACE IS WASTED BECAUSE THERE ARE LITTLE, LITTLE CUT UP INTO LITTLE ROOMS. SO YOU CAN'T REALLY USE THEM FOR ANYTHING. ANYONE CAN SEE ANYTHING WITH NO DISABLED PARKING.

IT'S TOO FAR FROM THE CURB FOR ACTUALLY BEING ADA ACCESSIBLE BECAUSE IT'S IN THE MIDDLE OF BLOCK ADA COMPLIANCE. IT'S NOT IN ANY WAY.

THE OTHER BUILDING HAS DOORS THAT WILL OPEN FOR PEOPLE WHEN THEY COME IN.

SO IT'S REALLY SET UP.

THERE'S NO THERE'S NO STORAGE THAT'S PROPER.

SO IT KIND OF DESTROYS THE CHAIN OF CUSTODY BECAUSE IN THE LAST ELECTION, PEOPLE WERE TAKING THE BALLOTS, CARRYING THEM AROUND BY BALLOT IN A ROOM.

YOU NEVER WANT TO DO THAT BECAUSE ONCE IT MOVES, YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENS, RIGHT? AND EVEN IF THEY'RE PERFECTLY HONEST, YOU CAN'T HAVE THAT.

SO YOU HAVE TO HAVE IT WHERE THAT BALLOT DOESN'T MOVE UNLESS IT'S IN A CONTAINER AND SEALED, AND THEN IT CAN MOVE.

AND IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO THAT IN THAT WAY, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE EXTRA DOORWAYS.

THE BUILDING IS SMALL.

IF WE GET THE SEALED CONTAINERS WE NEED, THEY'RE $30 AS OPPOSED TO 400 BECAUSE I AM CHEAP. THEN THEY WILL TAKE ABOUT 150 SPACE FEET OF SPACE.

WE DON'T HAVE THAT TO SPARE AT THE OTHER PLACE. YOU KNOW, THEY PUT IN THOSE LITTLE BLUE TUBS THAT ARE ONLY TWO FEET BY TWO FEET, BUT THAT WILL TAKE A LOT OF SPACE. OKAY. OPTION NUMBER ONE FOR THE BUILDING.

YOU SEE ALL THAT GOES DOWN TO 2.5 MILLION.

IT SAYS TENANT IMPROVEMENTS OF $1.2 MILLION.

NOW, THESE FOLKS MAY KNOW A LOT MORE THAN I DO.

AND THAT'S WHERE THEY'RE GETTING THAT NUMBER. BUT UNLESS I KNOW WHAT I'M SPENDING THE MONEY ON, I SEE NO REASON FOR THAT TO BE THERE IN REALITY.

SO BECAUSE I DON'T WANT THE BUILDING IMPROVED, I WANT A BIG OPEN SPACE.

I DON'T WANT OFFICES BUILT.

I DON'T WANT ANYTHING DONE RIGHT. YOU JUST WANT A BIG OPEN SPACE. IF WE WANT TO MOVE THE CLERK'S OFFICE OVER THERE, THEN WE CAN ACTUALLY BOX THAT OFF.

BUT WE DON'T WANT TO DO THAT RIGHT NOW.

MAYBE LATER, BUT NOT AT 1.2 MILLION.

WITH THE BUILDING LEASE, THE BUILDING LEASE IS MORE.

BUT LIKE I SAID, YOU CAN THEN ADD PRINTERS IN THERE.

WE CAN DO THE PRINTING IN HOUSE AND THAT WILL SAVE 150 FOR EACH ELECTION.

WELL, DEPENDING YOU AVERAGE ABOUT 150 IN COST FOR AN ELECTION.

BUT THAT IS IF THE COUNTY DOES IT, IF IT'S DONE FOR LIKE THE CITY OF REDDING, THEY HAVE TO PAY THE BILL. SO WE DON'T REALLY SAVE ANYTHING.

BUT THEY MIGHT APPRECIATE THAT YOU'RE SPENDING $7,000 ON PRINTING AS OPPOSED TO 150 PROBABLY. SO YOU'VE GOT THE FACILITY CHARGE.

NOT SURE WHAT THAT IS. I'M SURE IT'S PROBABLY RIGHT. IT CHARGE.

HONESTLY, ALL WE NEED IS A WI FI IN THE BACK HOOK TO THE DLINK, WHICH IS FIBER BECAUSE WE DON'T ACTUALLY CONNECT ANYTHING TO THE NETWORK FOR THE ELECTIONS, SO WE DON'T WANT ANYTHING THERE.

IT WOULD BE THE WORST THING WE'D WANT.

BALLOT PRINTERS ARE 105,000.

THAT'S JUST WHAT THEY COST.

IT SEEMS HIGH. WE WANTED TO USE THE BALLOT.

I MEAN THE PRINTER AT THE TAX COLLECTOR'S OFFICE.

SHE WAS GREAT TO ALLOW US TO EVEN CONSIDER IT.

BUT THE STATE SAYS IT HAS TO BE EXCLUSIVE USE.

AND THAT WOULDN'T BE THAT BECAUSE WE CAN'T STEAL HER PRINTER AND SAY, NOW YOU CAN'T USE IT ANYMORE.

SO, MR. CURTIS, IF I IF I'VE CUT THE FIRE CHIEF OFF AND THE SHERIFF OFF, I'M GOING TO GET A LOT OF FLACK IF I DON'T CUT THE CLERK OFF.

SO IF YOU CAN WRAP IT UP SO WE CAN GET TO OUR DISCUSSION, WELL, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT UNLESS YOU HAVE A QUESTION.

OKAY. YEAH. THERE'S A LOT OF QUESTIONS. SO AGAIN, GENTLEMEN, I THINK WE COULD DO MORE DISCUSSION NOW BEFORE PUBLIC COMMENT.

MIGHT MIGHT HELP SOME.

ANYBODY LIKE TO GO FIRST? IF NOT, I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS.

ONE THING THAT YOU SAID IN YOUR PRESENTATION. WHAT'S THAT? I DON'T CONTROL THE SCREEN.

STEPHANIE. THERE YOU GO. ALL RIGHT.

SO YOU HAD MENTIONED THE 1.8 HOURS.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'VE ALWAYS BEEN AND I KNOW SUPERVISOR PLUMMER ACTUALLY, WHEN HE WAS SUPERVISOR ELECT, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS EXTENSIVELY, WAS COUNTING THE VOTES FASTER.

AND FOR A PERSON THAT HAS GONE PRETTY MUCH THE ENTIRE 30 DAYS OF THE PROCESS TO GET MY RESULTS OF THREE RACES IN LESS THAN TWO YEARS.

I WOULD. I'M VERY INTERESTED IN GETTING THOSE COUNTED FASTER.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAS TO BE DONE, AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I DISCUSSED WITH THE PRIOR CLERK AS WELL AS THE PRIOR ASSISTANT CLERK, WAS THEIR DESIRE TO BRING TABULATORS BACK.

SO IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE AND THAT WASN'T PART OF THE BUDGET PROCESS? BECAUSE I REMEMBER CEO RICKERT HAD INSTRUCTED.

I BELIEVE YOURSELF. AND WE EVEN DISCUSSED IT AS A BOARD THAT WE WOULD WAIT UNTIL THAT APPOINTMENT HAPPENED BEFORE WE DECIDED WHO WOULD GET TO SPEND WHAT.

SO ARE THE TABULATORS SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE LOOKING TO DO REGARDLESS? YES, BUT THIS IS DIFFERENT.

WHAT THEY WERE LOOKING AT IS THEY WANTED TO PUT TABULATORS ACTUALLY AT THE PRECINCTS.

THAT'S NOT REALLY A GOOD SYSTEM BECAUSE YOU PUT IT IN AND IT DOESN'T KEEP TRACK OF ANYTHING ELSE. THERE'S NO WAY TO REALLY GO BACK AND BALANCE ANYTHING.

YOU ALSO HAVE TO BUY 60 OF THEM, AS OPPOSED TO HAVING TO BUY 20 OF THEM.

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SO YOU HAVE TO BUY $2 MILLION WORTH OF TABULATORS VERSUS 400,000.

CORRECT. SO WE NEED SOMETHING WHERE WE CAN ACTUALLY KEEP TRACK OF THE BATCHES AND PUT THEM ALL THERE. ALL THEY DO IS THEY BRING THEM IN. THEY'RE ALREADY STACKED AT THE PRECINCTS. THEN WE RUN THEM THROUGH.

WE COUNT THEM ON CAMERA.

I WANT TO CLARIFY MY FELLOW BOARD BECAUSE SUPERVISOR KELSTROM, I BELIEVE WE TALKED ABOUT THIS LAST YEAR ABOUT POSSIBLY BRINGING TABULATORS BACK BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE DO LIKE THAT PART.

ANY. SUPERVISOR. PLUMMER OR HARMON OR LONG.

DID YOU GUYS EVER HAVE ANY CONVERSATIONS OR HAVE YOU HAD ANY ABOUT TABULATORS, ABOUT YOUR DESIRE FOR THEM? BUT I THINK WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, THAT'S AT THE PRECINCT ORIGINALLY.

BUT I'M SAYING BUT BUT BUT I MEAN I'M JUST KIND OF GAUGING THE PULSE.

IS EVERYBODY UP HERE LIKE ON BOARD OF BRINGING SOME TABULATORS BACK? AND THAT MAY NOT BE VOTED ON TODAY, BUT AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE FINANCIAL PART, I WANT TO KNOW, ARE YOU SAYING BRINGING THEM BACK TO THE PRECINCT OR BRINGING THEM BACK JUST CENTRALLY LOCATED? BECAUSE I THINK IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE USER EXPERIENCE AS THE VOTER.

THAT'S DIFFERENT FROM WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING.

YEAH. CORRECT. SO EVEN IF BRINGING THEM BACK IN THIS ONE, BECAUSE I THINK THE BIGGEST, THE BIGGEST REASON FOR BACK AT THE PRECINCT IS BECAUSE YOU CAN'T GO DOWN TO THE ROVE'S OFFICE RIGHT NOW AND REALLY SEE ANYTHING. AND THAT'S NOT IT'S THE BUILDING'S FAULT BECAUSE THE BUILDING IS, IS THAT THERE'S NO, THERE'S NOT THE ABILITY FOR OBSERVATION.

SO I'M TALKING ABOUT IN THIS MODEL, AND I'LL JUST TELL YOU NOW, I'M SUPER AGAINST SPENDING THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY IN THIS CAPACITY ON THIS, BUT I AM ABOUT GETTING THE SYSTEM PUT IN PLACE WHERE IT'S JUST MORE OPEN.

I MEAN, OUR PAST ASSISTANT REGISTRAR OF VOTERS WAS VERY ADAMANT ABOUT, I THINK IT'S SANTA CRUZ, AND I CAN'T REMEMBER IF IT WAS SANTA CRUZ, BUT ONE OF THE PLACES THAT HAD THESE REALLY BIG GLASS WINDOWS, AND IT WAS A BIG OPEN ROOM SO YOU COULD VIEW EVERYTHING.

THAT WAS THE DREAM OF THAT INDIVIDUAL.

SO THIS GOES ALONG WITH THAT.

SO I'M JUST I'M JUST TRYING TO GAUGE BECAUSE I'M WORKING BACKWARDS ON THE COST. SO ANYWAY, JUST BE THINKING ABOUT THAT ON THE TABULAR PART, THE BALLOT PRINTERS, I'M ABSOLUTELY FOR PRINTING IN HOUSE.

I THINK IT'S CRAZY THAT WE'VE SPENT THIS LONG.

NOW YOU HAVE TO HAVE A DEDICATED PRINTER. CORRECT. LIKE WE CAN'T USE.

I TALKED TO MISS SCOTT LAURIE SCOTT QUITE SOME TIME AGO, AND I BELIEVE IT STILL REMAINS TRUE.

THERE HAS TO BE A DEDICATED PRINTER. IT CAN'T BE. IT'S THE SAME PRINTER, BUT THE CLERK HAS TO HAVE ONE AND IT HAS TO BE EXCLUSIVE USE.

YEAH. SO WE CAN'T EVEN PUT IT IN A ROOM WHERE THE CLERK USES IT AND THE SHERIFF OR WHOEVER.

OKAY, IT'S GOT TO BE EXCLUSIVE, PASS A CERTAIN CERTIFICATION, HAVE A CERTAIN WAY OF DOING EVERYTHING AND IT HAS TO BE JUST US, WHICH IS REAL WASTEFUL. BUT AND TOM SCHREIBER IS NOT HERE.

IS HE BY ANY CHANCE? I DIDN'T SEE HIM.

OKAY, BUT I KNOW, BRYCE, THIS MAY BE A QUESTION FOR YOU, AND I KNOW TROY CAN'T ANSWER IT, BUT. BUT TROY, IF YOU WANT TO START MAKING YOUR WAY UP BECAUSE I HAD SOME QUESTIONS. BRYCE, DO YOU KNOW ON THE ON THE BECAUSE JUST TO HELP THE PUBLIC UNDERSTAND, JUST FOR THE TRANSPARENCY SAKE, I CALLED THE OWNER OF THIS BUILDING AND ASKED IF THERE'S EVEN THE OPPORTUNITY FOR A 3 OR 4 MONTH LEASE BECAUSE I'M PERSONALLY NOT INTERESTED.

I HATE, I HATE LEASING, I'D MUCH RATHER BUY PAY FOR THINGS OUTRIGHT.

BUT I REALLY, REALLY BELIEVE IN THIS MODEL OF A VOTING PROCESS.

AND THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT COUNTIES AND JURISDICTIONS LOOKING TO IMPROVE THE TRANSPARENCY PROCESS SINCE 2020.

AND I THINK THIS IS ONE MAYBE OF A FEW, BUT I REALLY LIKE THIS ONE.

SO MY QUESTION IS, IF WE WERE ABLE TO DO THIS FOR 3 OR 4 MONTHS AS A TRIAL RUN, DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA OF THE THE IT COST AND I KNOW THERE'S THE SECRETARY OF STATE WILL PROBABLY IN A WEEK HAVE SOME TYPE OF LEGISLATION THAT SAYS YOU HAVE TO HAVE FOUR COOLING TOWERS AND ALL KINDS OF OTHER CRAZY STUFF TO KEEP US FROM DOING WHAT WE'D LIKE TO TRY AND DO. BUT FOR THE IT COSTS, DO YOU KNOW HOW HOW MUCH OF THAT IS GOING TO BE JUST A SUNKEN COST RIGHT OFF THE BAT, VERSUS HOW MUCH OF IT IS GOING TO BE? HOW CHEAPLY CAN WE DO THAT IN FOR 3 OR 4 MONTHS? THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. AND BRYCE RITCHIE, SENIOR ADMINISTRATIVE ANALYST FOR THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICE, I LOOKED AT THAT.

WE HAD TOM SCHREIBER INITIALLY PROVIDE A QUOTE FOR MOVING THE CLERK'S OFFICE.

AND THE MAJORITY OF THAT COST, WHILE THERE WERE COSTS TO MOVE, THE STAFF CAME FROM THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE BUILDING.

THEY'RE ALL RUNNING ON CAT FIVE CABLE, SO ALL OF THAT WOULD NEED TO COME OUT IF HE'S WANTING. IF MR. CURTIS IS WANTING CAMERAS, HE'LL NEED TO RUN CABLE FOR ALL OF THOSE CAMERAS BECAUSE IF HE WANTS TO STREAM, EVEN IF THEY ARE CONNECTED TO THE COUNTY NETWORK, THEY WOULD ALL HAVE TO BE WE WOULD HAVE TO INSTALL A CIRCUIT FOR THE COUNTY NETWORK. SO WE CAN'T GET OUT OF THIS SCOT FREE.

AND IF WE DO A SHORT TERM LEASE, ANYTHING THAT WE SINK INTO THE BUILDING WOULD BECOME THE PROPERTY OWNERS AT THE END OF THE LEASE. ALSO WITH SHORT TERM LEASES, YOU INCUR EXTRA COSTS FOR MOVING AND MOVE OUT.

AND SO BOTH, I WOULD SAY FROM THE FACILITY SIDE AND THE IT SIDE, YOU'RE LOOKING AT INCREASED EXPENDITURES THERE AND SUNKEN COSTS.

WHEREAS IF WE WERE IN A COUNTY OWNED BUILDING, YOU WOULD GET WE WOULD REALIZE THE BENEFIT FROM THE IMPROVEMENT.

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SAME WITH A LONGER TERM LEASE.

WE WOULD REALIZE THE BENEFITS OF THE IMPROVEMENT BECAUSE WE WOULD BE ABLE TO USE THOSE THAT INFRASTRUCTURE FOR LONGER.

YEAH. OKAY. SO LONG STORY SHORT, YOU'RE NOT SURE WITHOUT, WITHOUT GOING OUT AND ACTUALLY QUOTING WHAT WAS NEEDED IN A SHORT TERM LEASE, I WOULDN'T WANT TO GIVE YOU ANY NUMBERS BECAUSE THEY MIGHT NOT BE, YOU KNOW, I, I FULLY GET THAT.

I MEAN, WHAT'S BECAUSE AS WE'RE LOOKING AT THE ITEMIZED LIST, AND I KNOW A LOT GOES INTO THIS AND IT IS YOU GUYS DID AN AARON OR WHOEVER ELSE WORKED ON THIS GOT IT THROUGH PRETTY QUICK. BUT WHEN YOU SEE LIKE SHASTA COUNTY FACILITY CHARGES AND THESE ROUND NUMBERS, I KNOW YOU'RE DOING THE BEST YOU GUYS CAN AND I APPRECIATE THAT. BUT IT ALSO SOMETIMES FEELS LIKE WHEN YOU RENT A CAR FOR $36 FOR A DAY AND YOU'RE OUT THE DOOR, YOU'RE 80 BUCKS, YOU'RE LIKE, WHAT? I THOUGHT IT WAS 36.

SO OKAY, SO I'M GOING TO, BEFORE I TURN IT OVER TO SUPERVISOR KELSTROM.

AND PLEASE, GUYS, GET IN QUEUE. I'M JUST GOING TO SAY LIKE, I'M, I'M SUPER OPEN TO THIS CONVERSATION.

I JUST, WE JUST HAVE TO SEE HOW I, I WANT TO SEE YOU IN A BUILDING, BUT LET ME BRING TROY.

I'LL JUST ASK HIM THIS QUESTION. TROY.

IN TERMS OF, LET'S JUST SAY HYPOTHETICALLY, WE GOT THE BUILDING COST US NOTHING OR WHATEVER, HOW FAST ARE WE ABLE LIKE, IS IT I NEED TO KNOW, LIKE, TRULY, IF IT'S REALISTIC FOR IF WE EVEN MADE THE DECISION TODAY, HAD THE KEYS TOMORROW GETTING THIS SET UP BY A NOVEMBER ELECTION BECAUSE WE'D HAVE TO DO IT. AND MR. CURTIS, THIS IS GOING TO BE PROBABLY FOR YOU AS WELL.

I'M I'M I'M GUESSING YOU'D HAVE TO BE IN THERE 45 READY TO GO 45 DAYS, 50 DAYS BEFORE BEFORE THE ELECTION DAY BECAUSE OF BALLOTS GO OUT 30 DAYS PRIOR TO ELECTION DAY. SO THAT MEANS PEOPLE ARE VOTING EARLIER AND THERE'S GOING TO BE TEST RUNS.

AND I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE SECRETARY OF STATE'S GOING TO REQUIRE YOU TO DO TO BE SET UP FIRST. SO I'M JUST TRYING TO GET PUBLIC WORKS AND YOU LIKE, DO WE HAVE ENOUGH TIME? EVEN IF THE COST WASN'T EVEN AN ISSUE, DO WE HAVE ENOUGH TIME? I'LL GIVE YOU AN ATTORNEY'S ANSWER.

DEPENDS. THE MAGIC NUMBER FOR US IS $75,000.

ANY TENANT IMPROVEMENTS ABOVE $75,000? THAT'S WHEN WE'LL HAVE TO GO TO COMPETITIVE PROCUREMENT, EVEN IF IT'S DONE. YOU KNOW, ON BEHALF OF US.

NOW, THE ONLY UNKNOWN I DON'T HAVE HERE IS IT DEPENDS IF, LIKE YOU SAY, THERE'S CONDUIT RUN DOWN AND EVERYTHING'S IN PLACE ALREADY, THEN IF YOU TRULY WANT THE BARE MINIMUM, THEN YOU CAN BUY CUBICLES, FURNITURE, TABLES AND SUCH.

AND THAT IS JUST PURCHASES.

SO THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM.

IF WE HAVE TO RUN ANY CONDUIT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, AS LONG AS EVERYTHING WE'RE DOING IS UNDER $75,000, WE CAN DO THAT BY FORCE ACCOUNT. WE CAN DO THAT WITH OUR OWN CREWS. WE COULD, WE CAN MAKE THAT HAPPEN. SO IF IT'S TRULY THE BARE MINIMUM YOU KNOW, THEN WE CAN MAKE THAT HAPPEN THE MINUTE WE'RE ABOVE THAT.

NOW I'M IN A PROCUREMENT PLAN SPECIFICATIONS BIDDING, AND NOW I JUST PUT THREE MONTHS ON TOP OF THAT.

OKAY. AND YOUR NUMBER IN HERE IS.

SO I'M JUST LOOKING FACILITIES.

YOURS WOULD BE 50 AND THE 55 AND THE 1.2 MILLION WAS THAT.

AND I, I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE 50 CAME.

I DIDN'T PROVIDE THE FACILITY CHARGES.

IS THAT I'M SORRY. SO JUST TO CLARIFY, I BELIEVE THAT LINE ITEM WAS SPECIFICALLY FOR HAVING FACILITIES HELP MOVE CURRENT EQUIPMENT AND FURNITURE FROM THE EXISTING SITES.

THAT WASN'T FOR FACILITIES TO DO ANY OF THE WORK.

OFFICE FURNITURE WOULD BE PROCUREMENT.

AND THEN THE TENANT IMPROVEMENTS WERE A ROUGH BASIS ON WHAT OTHER PROJECTS HAVE BEEN BID AT. THOSE WERE PLANNED OR ESTIMATED.

WE CAN DO THEM. IF WE DO, IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE MUCH HIGHER IF THE LESSOR AGREES TO DO THEM.

THAT'S WHAT WE WERE BUDGETING, BUT THAT WAS AMORTIZED OVER A FIVE YEAR LEASE. SO YOU'RE REALLY LOOKING AT CLOSER TO 6 MILLION FOR THOSE IMPROVEMENTS.

I THINK WELL, HONESTLY, I DON'T NEED WIRE TO GO TO ANYTHING BECAUSE NONE OF OUR STUFF GETS WIRED AND THE CAMERAS WORK OFF OBS.

ANYBODY, ANY GEEKS HERE? OKAY. OBS OPEN BROADCASTING, IT SENDS OUT A WI-FI SIGNAL, SO IT JUST NEEDS A WI-FI CONNECTION AND NOTHING ELSE GETS HOOKED UP.

AND THE PEOPLE WHO DO YOUR STREAMING CAN HOOK DIRECTLY TO OBS, SO THEY DON'T REQUIRE ANY CAMERAS AT ALL AT THE LOCATION TO PULL THOSE SIGNALS AND SEND THEM OUT. OKAY. AND WE WOULD RECORD, WE WOULD RECORD THERE AND THEY WOULD RECORD WHERE THEY ARE. SO IF THERE'S AN ERROR, IT'S ALL FIXED UP.

OKAY. NO, THAT'S THAT'S HELPFUL.

SO I'LL PROBABLY HAVE MORE QUESTIONS AFTER THE OTHERS. THANK YOU. SUPERVISOR. KELSTROM.

THANK YOU. YEAH. OKAY. SO SOME OF THESE SOME OF THESE FEES ARE, YOU KNOW, KIND OF UP FRONT ONE TIME ONLY LIKE THE THE IT SERVICES.

I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF AN ONGOING FEE, BUT THE VAST MAJORITY OF IS GOING TO GET THE CAMERAS HOOKED UP AND GET THE CABLE RAN AND ALL THAT.

AND IT SOUNDS LIKE THE, THE FACILITY CHARGE IS KIND OF THE SAME THING GETTING YOU MOVED OVER THERE. SO THE CAMERAS FOR VOTING,

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THAT'S A ONE TIME PURCHASE, THE BALLOT PRINTERS, ONE TIME PURCHASE. NOW WOULD YOU HAVE WOULD BE ABLE TO PRINT THE BALLOTS FOR THE CITY OF REDDING IF WE WERE, SAY, IF WE WERE TO APPROVE THIS TODAY, I MEAN, WOULD YOU GET A BALLOT PRINTER? I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG IT'S GOING TO TAKE TO BE CERTIFIED. IF THEY COULD CERTIFY IT QUICKLY ENOUGH, WE COULD PRINT THEM.

BUT YOU DO HAVE A BACKUP PLAN TO GET BALLOTS UP FROM ANOTHER PRINTER FOR THE CITY OF REDDING TAX. WELL, FOR RIGHT NOW, WE CAN DO THAT.

AND SINCE WE WANT TO TEST EVERY BALLOT THAT'S COMING THROUGH, THE PROBLEM IS WE CAN'T REALLY USE RUN BACK BECAUSE THEY'RE IN ARIZONA, SO THEY CAN'T SEND THEM TO US. LET US TEST THEM AND SEND THEM BACK OUT.

SO YOU DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEMS WITH BALLOTS NOT BEING ABLE TO BE READ, BECAUSE WE WANT TO READ THEM AHEAD OF TIME. MOST PEOPLE DON'T CHECK EVERY BALLOT, BUT WE WANT TO. IF WE HAVE THE TABULATORS IN HOUSE AND WE HAVE THE PRINTING IN HOUSE MAKES IT A LOT EASIER.

WE ALSO HAVE CONTACTS WITH A PRINTER DOWN IN SACRAMENTO WHO SAID THEY WILL DRIVE THE BALLOTS UP TO US. WE CAN HAVE THEM FOR A COUPLE HOURS TO RUN THROUGH, AND THEY'LL DRIVE THEM BACK AND DO THE FINISHED MAILING, SO WE COULD STILL MAKE THAT HAPPEN.

IF WE COULD GET THROUGH THAT LITTLE CONTRACT PROCESS QUICK ENOUGH. AND THE ADDITIONAL UTILITIES COST, THAT'S BASED ON A YEAR BEING IN THE $64,000.

SO THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT $5,000 A MONTH WAS THAT AGAIN, THE ADDITIONAL UTILITIES COST? IS THAT BASED ON A YEAR OF BEING IN THE BUILDING? NO IDEA. THAT'S NOT MY FIGURE, CONSIDERING THE FACT THAT YOU HOLD ELECTIONS IN KIND OF A BURST, YOU DON'T NEED TO AIR CONDITION THE BUILDING ALL THE TIME.

OKAY? IT'S NOT LIKE YOU.

IT'S NOT LIKE A SUPERMARKET WHERE YOU HAVE PEOPLE COMING IN ALL THE TIME. BUT THE NEW BUILDING LEASE IS FOR A FULL YEAR.

THE $395,000, 394,000 IS FOR A FULL YEAR OF LEASE.

AND BASICALLY WE NEED THIS BUILDING IN FOUR MONTHS.

AND THEN WE COULD PROBABLY DECIDE AFTER THAT WHETHER WE WANTED TO CONTINUE TO MOVE THE CLERK'S OFFICE OVER THERE AND DO ALL THESE OTHER CHANGES THAT ARE ON THIS OTHER BUDGET AMENDMENT HERE. OR WE CAN, YOU KNOW, GET THROUGH THIS ELECTION AND SEE IF IT WORKS. I MEAN, IF IT DOESN'T WORK, WELL, THEN WHAT THE HECK EXACTLY WHAT KEEP YOU FOR? SO, I MEAN, I, I WOULD, I WOULD BE ALMOST OKAY WITH, YOU KNOW, DOING THE TABULATORS GETTING THE PRINTERS, GETTING THE CAMERAS, BUT THE BUILDING LEASE, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT FOR LIKE A, YOU KNOW, FOUR MONTH, FIVE MONTH, SIX MONTH, MAYBE AT THE MOST. WE'RE STILL GOING TO HAVE TO PUT THE COUNTY IT SERVICES IN THERE AND THE FACILITY CHARGES ARE GOING TO BE CLOSE TO THAT.

THE ADDITIONAL UTILITIES CLASS, AGAIN, WE DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT CAME FROM, BUT YOU KNOW, THAT MIGHT NOT BE AS HIGH AS $64,000.

IT MIGHT BE FOR A FOUR MONTH PERIOD.

AND YEAH, SO. WELL, I WOULD BE OPEN TO THAT.

I, I DON'T KNOW IF I WANT TO GO INTO THIS TODAY FOR A WHOLE YEAR, YOU KNOW AGAIN, IF IT DOESN'T WORK, THEN WHAT'S THE POINT? BUT I WOULD LIKE TO, IF IT DOES WORK AND EVERYTHING GOES SMOOTH, THEN I WOULD LIKE TO COME BACK AND AND TALK ABOUT MOVING ALL THE OFFICES OVER THERE, BECAUSE I BELIEVE THE THE LEASE YOU SAID IS 20,000 RIGHT NOW FOR THE ONE YEAR DOWNTOWN AND THIS WOULD BE 29,000.

SO I MEAN, IT'S THE BUILDING IS FIVE TIMES AS LARGE.

IT HAS A WHOLE LOT LESS PROBLEMS, ADA COMPLIANT, YOU KNOW, PARKING AND EVERYTHING ELSE. SO AND WE CAN HAND YOU BACK 100 GRAND WITH THE PRINTING EVERY TIME WE PRINT THEM. RIGHT.

I THOUGHT IT WAS 150. SO GOING DOWN 150, IT DEPENDS ON HOW MANY PRINTING ARE YOU JUST PRINTING. READING. YOU'RE PRINTING THE WHOLE COUNTY. ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT. SO IT'S A MATH THING. WELL, OKAY. THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY FOR NOW.

THANK YOU. SUPERVISOR KELSTROM. SUPERVISOR PLUMMER. THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION ON THE PRINTER'S PIECE. SO WHEN WE'RE CALCULATING THE SAVINGS THERE RIGHT NOW, WE'RE WORKING. HOW MUCH ARE WE? HOW HOW MUCH HAVE WE PAID RUN BACK IN THE PAST TO PROVIDE THAT SERVICE? THE RUN BACK BID IS LIKE 140.

AND THE MC BID WAS THE GUY IN SACRAMENTO WAS 150.

SO THAT'S WHAT THEIR BIDS ARE RIGHT NOW.

AND WHAT SERVICES DOES THAT INCLUDE? THAT INCLUDES THE BASICALLY THE PRINTING OF THE GUIDE BOOKS AND THE WHOLE THING.

WE CAN PRINT EVERYTHING ON THE PRINTER. SO IT'S BASICALLY PRINTING AND THEN WE CAN HAVE THEM DO MAIL OUT AS WELL. BUT THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE POSTAGE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. SO IT'S, THAT'S STILL SOMETHING WE HAVE TO DO AND THEN GET THAT MONEY BACK.

SO THEY'RE CURRENTLY ARE THEY CURRENTLY DOING THE MAILING PART OF THAT OR ARE THEY ARE DO WE HAVE COUNTY STAFF WHO ARE DOING THE MAILING PART? WE WOULD DO OUR OWN IF WE HAVE THE PRINTERS.

IF WE DON'T, WE'LL LET THEM DO IT BECAUSE THEY MIGHT AS WELL PRINT THE WHOLE THING THERE AND JUST DO IT AS OPPOSED TO BECAUSE IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE FOR US TO, YOU KNOW, TRY AND GET EVERYTHING DOWN HERE AND THEN SORT IT OUT.

IF WE. WHAT I WAS TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IS THE, THE DIFFERENCE IN COST THERE IN TERMS OF IF WE MOVE TO PRINTING OUR OWN BALLOTS, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HANDLE THE MAILING PIECE AS WELL.

CORRECT. IF WE PRINT OURSELVES, IT'LL BE ABOUT $7,000 JUST FOR PRINTING OR THAT INCLUDES THE WHOLE. THAT'S JUST THE PROTECTIVE SERVICES. OKAY. THAT'S MOSTLY THE SERVICES TOO, BECAUSE IT'S OUR PEOPLE PUTTING THEM TOGETHER AND.

AND WE USE VOLUNTEERS AS WELL TO DO THE STUFFING AND.

AND IT'S ALL IN THE CAMERA.

OKAY. AND THEN SO THE TABULATORS, THE 392 392,000.

THAT'S THE FOR 20 TABULATORS.

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YES. NO, NO, ACTUALLY WE HAVE FOUR.

AND THAT WILL BRING US UP TO 16.

SO 16 ADDITIONAL. AND THEN WE'LL HAVE 12 ADDITIONAL.

OKAY. BECAUSE THEY'RE DONE IN PODS OF EIGHT.

I DON'T KNOW WHY BUT PODS OF EIGHT.

AND SO YOU HAVE TO GET YOUR SERVER SOFTWARE AND EVERYTHING, WHICH ADDS A LOT TO THAT COST FOR THE OTHER PODS WE ALREADY HAVE FOR.

AND THEN IN TERMS OF THE FINANCING OF THIS, AND THIS MIGHT BE AN ERROR IN QUESTION MORE SO THAN. BUT IN TERMS OF PAYING FOR THIS, THIS WE DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER FUNDING SOURCES TO BE ABLE TO COVER THIS. RIGHT.

THIS WOULD BE USED FROM GENERAL FUND OR CAPITAL EXPENDITURE BUDGET UNIT.

WE HAVE A LITTLE LEFT IN A SECURITY PART OF IT.

SO THAT WILL KNOCK OFF SOME FACILITIES TO PUT THE THING ON THE DOOR. I THINK WE HAVE LIKE 20,000 LEFT FROM A GRANT WE HAVE FOR INCREASE IN SECURITY OR SOMETHING.

BUT OTHER THAN THAT, WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING. OKAY.

AARON. SO COULD YOU SPECIFY WHERE THESE FUNDS WOULD BE COMING FROM? THESE FUNDS WOULD BE COMING TO PAY FOR THIS REQUEST.

YEAH. GOOD AFTERNOON. AARON BURTON DEPUTY COUNTY EXECUTIVE OFFICER.

SO, YOU KNOW, AS WE DISCUSS THE BUDGET, WE REALLY DON'T HAVE ANY MONEY IN THE UNRESTRICTED GENERAL FUND.

AND SO WHAT'S PROPOSED AT THIS POINT IS FOR THIS TO COME OUT OF THE CAPITAL FUND THAT WE HAVE SET ASIDE FOR BUILDING A NEW JAIL, OR POTENTIALLY THE ALTERNATIVE CUSTODY PROGRAM. ANOTHER THING THAT I WANT TO MAKE SURE I THINK BRYCE MENTIONED IT AS WELL, BUT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE TENANT IMPROVEMENTS, IF WE'RE GOING TO MOVE INTO THIS BUILDING, IT'S NOT JUST 1.2.

THAT'S 1.2 FOR FIVE YEARS AND THAT'S A MINIMUM.

SO WE DON'T WE HAVEN'T DEVELOPED ANY PLANS FOR SPECIFICALLY WHAT WOULD GO IN THERE.

AND SO THAT WOULD STILL BE PENDING.

ALSO THE, THE COST FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE WOULD STILL BE PENDING BECAUSE IT NEEDED SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION FOR THAT.

BUT OTHER THAN THAT, THERE IS NO OTHER FUNDING STREAM THAT I AM AWARE OF THAT WOULD FUND THIS. IT WOULD COME FROM THE DISCRETIONARY MONEY THAT THE COUNTY HAS.

OKAY. THANK YOU SUPERVISOR.

THANK YOU. SUPERVISOR. PLUMMER SUPERVISOR LONG. AARON.

DON'T GO TOO FAR. DEFINITELY NOT.

SO I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HERE AND THANK YOU FOR THE TOUR.

I APPRECIATED THE INFORMATION AND SHOWING ME THE LAYOUT COMING. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. MY PLEASURE.

AND SO. THIS IS A FIVE YEAR PERIOD OF AMORTIZATION.

POSSIBLY. AND I'LL ASK AARON ABOUT THIS.

SO IT WOULD BE 1.2 MILLION PER YEAR, FIVE YEAR, $6 MILLION. WHAT ELSE WOULD BE CONSIDERED ALL IN FOR THIS PROJECT.

SO I WILL SAY THAT A THE TENANT IMPROVEMENTS THE WAY IT IS, ARE JUST BASED ON A $200 PER SQUARE FOOT WITHOUT HAVING ANY ACTUAL PLANS THAT COULD ACTUALLY GO UP DEPENDING ON WHATEVER THE COMPLEXITY OF THE PLANS ARE.

THIS IS ALSO PENDING THE LANDLORD BEING WILLING TO FRONT THIS COST AND THEN ALLOWING US TO PAY IT OVER THE COURSE OF FIVE YEARS.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THAT KIND OF REMAINS TO BE SEEN.

IF THE LANDLORD DIDN'T AGREE TO THAT, THEN THIS MONEY WOULD ALL HAVE TO COME OUT OF THIS FISCAL YEAR. AND THEN ONCE, YOU KNOW, SHOULD THE BOARD APPROVED THIS.

THIS PLAN. THEN WE WOULD NEED TO GET LIKE AN ENGINEER'S ESTIMATE AND WE WOULD HAVE A BETTER IDEA. WE HAVE HAD RECENT REMODELS THAT WERE LIKE 414 I BELIEVE.

I'M LOOKING AT PRICE PER SQUARE FOOT.

SO I MEAN, REALLY WHEN WE LOOK AT $200 A SQUARE FOOT, IT IS A PRETTY BASIC PLAN.

OKAY. THANK YOU. AND THEN I HAD A LOT OF QUESTIONS THAT WERE ASKED BY SUPERVISOR PLUMMER SAME QUESTION.

SO HAVE WE MADE ANY ATTEMPTS TO WORK WITH THIS LANDLORD FOR THE LEASE TO SEE WHAT KIND OF TEA THEY WOULD DO OR TENANT IMPROVEMENTS THAT THEY WOULD DO? BECAUSE YOU KNOW, THAT THAT IS IF, IF WE DO TENANT IMPROVEMENTS UP FRONT AND THE LEASE DOESN'T WORK OUT OR WE BAIL OUT EARLY OR SOMETHING DOESN'T WORK, WE LOSE ALL THOSE TENANT IMPROVEMENTS.

AND SO IF THAT'S SUPERVISOR, CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION? WELL, JUST A SECOND. OKAY.

SO SO I MEAN, THE REASON THIS IS BEFORE THE BOARD IS BECAUSE IT WASN'T A PROJECT THAT WAS APPROVED BY THE BOARD PREVIOUSLY. AND SO THERE HAS NOT BEEN ALL THOSE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT SPECIFICALLY WHAT WE WOULD WANT AND HOW MUCH IT WOULD BE, AND IF THE LANDLORD WOULD BE WILLING TO DO THE TENANT IMPROVEMENTS, AND IF THEY'D BE WILLING TO SPREAD IT OVER THE COURSE OF FIVE YEARS.

AND AGAIN, THE REASON FOR THAT IS SO NORMALLY IF WE HAD A PROJECT IN THE BUDGET WHERE WE KNEW WE WERE GOING TO MOVE SOMEBODY INTO A LEASE SPACE, WE WOULD DO ALL THOSE NEGOTIATIONS AND THEN WE WOULD BRING IT TO THE BOARD.

IN THIS CASE, IT'S NOT A PROJECT THAT THE BOARD HAS APPROVED PREVIOUSLY.

AND SO THE BOARD REALLY NEEDS TO WEIGH IN ON WHETHER THEY WANT STAFF TO MOVE FORWARD TO

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ACTUALLY REALLY SOLIDIFY ANY OF THOSE PLANS IN IN THAT CASE, IF WE THE BOARD SAYS MOVE FORWARD, WE OBVIOUSLY WOULD MOVE, YOU KNOW, AS QUICKLY AS WE COULD.

AND THEN IF THE ESTIMATES CAME IN HIGHER, WE'D HAVE TO RETURN TO THE BOARD FOR MORE BUDGET AUTHORITY. OKAY.

OKAY. AND I KNOW THIS IS A TOUGH QUESTION FOR YOU, BUT ALL IN. AND I ASKED THAT JUST A SECOND AGO.

IS THERE ANY WAY YOU COULD TELL ME AN ALL IN PRICE, GIVEN THE FACT THAT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE TENANT IMPROVEMENTS WOULD BE? THEY MIGHT COME IN SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER THAN THE THAN WE'RE TALKING.

YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ENGINEERING WILL SHOW.

YOU DON'T KNOW HOW TO CONNECT IT IN THE LIVE STREAMING AND ALL THE CAMERAS AND ALL THESE KINDS OF THINGS. HOW DO WE PUT A FIGURE ON ALL THAT IN ADDITION TO YOUR $6 MILLION? YEAH. I MEAN, I WOULD SAY IT'S REALLY IT'S REALLY HARD TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.

IN MY PERSONAL OPINION, RIGHT, WITH NO NUMBERS, IT'S GOING TO BE, IT WILL BE WELL OVER THE $6 MILLION.

AND THAT IS, OF COURSE, YOU GOT TO CONSIDER THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE A LEASED SPACE THAT WE WILL HAVE TO PAY FOR THROUGH THE END OF JUNE.

WE HAVE SPACE WITHIN THIS BUILDING THAT WE HAVE TO PAY FOR FOR TWO MORE YEARS.

AND THEN THERE'S A LOT OF UNKNOWNS WITH WHAT KIND OF INFRASTRUCTURE IS NEEDED FOR THE CAMERAS. AND SO IT'S, I WOULD SAY A MINIMUM OF PROBABLY PROBABLY MORE LIKE $8 MILLION WHO HAS THE JURISDICTION OVER THE LEASE DOWNSTAIRS? SO IT'S NOT REALLY A LEASE DOWNSTAIRS.

IT'S THE COST PLAN CHARGES.

AND SO THERE THAT'S FOR THE BUILDING AND EQUIPMENT USE.

AND THOSE ARE TWO YEARS IN ARREARS.

AND SO THE COUNTY CLERK AND ELECTIONS MOVED IN IN AUGUST OF 2023.

AND IN 25, 26 IS ACTUALLY THE FIRST TIME THEY'RE SEEING THOSE COST PLAN CHARGES.

SO THOSE WOULD LAST AND THEY WOULD HAVE TO LAST FOR TWO YEARS PAST ESSENTIALLY WHEN THEY WERE TO MOVE OUT. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU TO AND MR. CURTIS HAD MENTIONED A SMALL PORTION OF FUNDING THAT HE HAD FROM AN OUTSIDE SOURCE, AND I THOUGHT I READ SOMEWHERE THAT MAYBE SOME ARPA FUNDS COULD BE BROUGHT FORWARD.

ARE THE ARPA FUNDS NOT EVEN INVOLVED IN THIS CONVERSATION? THEY'RE THEY'RE NOT FOR A COUPLE OF REASONS, BUT THE MAIN REASON AT THIS POINT IS THAT THEY HAD TO BE OBLIGATED BY THE END OF DECEMBER.

AND SO THAT'S RIGHT. THAT'S RIGHT. THERE IS NO OPTION TO USE ARPA FUNDING FOR THIS.

NO OPTIONS FOR ARPA. YEAH.

OKAY. AND WELL THANK YOU AARON.

I APPRECIATE THAT INFORMATION. MR. CURTIS, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU ABOUT THE TABULATORS AND TRYING TO FIGURE THIS OUT.

AND I DIDN'T ASK YOU THIS ON THE TOUR, BUT OKAY.

HERE GOES. SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT GOING FROM FOUR TABULATORS TO 16, CORRECT? 16. AND IS THAT JUST BECAUSE WE WILL HAVE ALL THE BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT TALKING PRECINCT TRAVELER'S TABULATORS, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IN THE NEW FACILITY TABULATORS. AND IS THAT JUST TO INCREASE THE NUMBER OF TABULATORS SO THAT THE PROCESS, IF THE IF IT WERE TO GO FORWARD, WOULD WOULD EXPEDITE THE PROCESSING OF BALLOTS? YES. SO THAT'S IT IN TWO HOURS AND GET EVERY BALLOT, INCLUDING THE MAIL INS AND ALL THAT.

BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T HAVE THOSE, WE CAN'T GET THOSE. WE JUST HAVE TO NOT COUNT THOSE OR COUNT THEM EARLY, LIKE A LOT OF PLACES DO.

GOT IT. YOU SHOWED ME WHERE THERE WILL BE LIKE THREE PEOPLE TO A TABLE, THREE OBSERVERS SITTING RIGHT BEHIND THEM, 20 TABLES.

RIGHT? SO 16. BUT YEAH, 16 TABLES, I WOULD SAY 22.

THAT'S OKAY. WHAT'S THAT? I ALWAYS SAY 20. YEAH.

I THINK YOU TOLD ME 20 BUT SO IT WOULD BE 16 TABLES EACH HAVING ITS OWN TABULATOR.

THEY WOULD FEED IT INTO THE TABULATOR.

AND THEN THAT WOULD EXPEDITE THE PROCESS THROUGH THE INCREASED USE OF TABULATORS.

RIGHT. SO NOW YOU'RE GOING TO BE OPERATING BECAUSE WHEN YOU DO THE TABULATOR YOU HAVE TO TAKE YOUR STACK, SHUFFLE THEM, PUT THEM IN, TAKE THEM, SHUFFLE THEM, PUT THEM BACK AND PUT EVERYTHING TOGETHER WITH THREE PEOPLE.

THIS PERSON SHUFFLES, THIS PERSON RUNS AND THIS PERSON PUTS THEM BACK. SO YOU DO 50 PER MINUTE AS OPPOSED TO 50 FOR EVERY THREE MINUTES.

SO ACTUALLY IT'S MUCH FASTER FLUFFING, AS YOU CALLED IT.

YES. YOU FLUFF THEM, FLUFF THEM, YOU FLUFF THE TABULAR.

YEAH. OKAY. AND THEN SO ANOTHER LOGISTICAL QUESTION WOULD BE.

SO THAT WOULD BE THREE OBSERVERS, 20 OR 16 TABLES.

SO NOW I'D HAVE TO REDO MY THOUGHT PROCESS.

IT'D BE 40, 48, 48 OBSERVERS, 48 POLL WORKERS, CORRECT. PROCESSING THE BALLOTS.

SO YOU'D HAVE 96 VOLUNTEERS, ESSENTIALLY, YES.

DO YOU THINK THAT WOULD PRESENT A CHALLENGE TO FIND 96 PEOPLE THAT WOULD BE WILLING TO.

NOT AT ALL. I'VE HAVE 400 PEOPLE THAT HAVE SIGNED UP TO DO THIS.

WE'LL HAVE TO STACK THEM AND DO THEM IN SHIFTS. WELL, YOU'D HAVE TO DO IT IN SHIFTS.

AND THEN SO THE FOR THE 40, 16 TIMES THREE, 48 TIMES THREE SHIFTS, YOU'RE TALKING 120 OF EACH.

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YOU'RE TALKING 240 VOLUNTEERS, 30 MINUTES EACH.

AND YOU HAVE TO GO SO SOMEBODY ELSE CAN SIT THERE, I DON'T KNOW. GOT IT.

OKAY. WELL THANK YOU, THANK YOU, SUPERVISOR LONG.

AND I APOLOGIZE, I JUST WAS WHAT I WAS I DIDN'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT, BUT WHEN YOU TALKED ABOUT THE TENANT IMPROVEMENTS.

BECAUSE I WAS CURIOUS WHAT YOU THOUGHT ABOUT THE BUILDING, IT WAS PRETTY CLEAN. THERE WAS, OF COURSE, ALL THOSE RACKS AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.

BUT I WAS CURIOUS IF YOU THOUGHT THERE WAS A LOT OF LIKE THAT, YOU FELT THERE WAS TENTATIVE, LIKE A LOT OF TENANT IMPROVEMENTS. AND THIS IS JUST THE BOARD DISCUSSIONS BECAUSE I THINK IT'LL HELP WITH PUBLIC COMMENT WHEN PEOPLE ACTUALLY, I THOUGHT THERE WAS A LOT OF DEFERRED MAINTENANCE IN THE BUILDING. THAT WAS MY TAKE ON IT FROM THE FUNCTIONALITY FROM FROM THE FUNCTIONALITY.

AND I THOUGHT THERE WAS A LOT OF IMPROVEMENTS THAT WOULD BE NEEDED ACTUALLY.

I MEAN, THERE'S LIKE, I KNOW, LIKE CUTTING THOSE SCREWS, LIKE OFF THE GROUND, ALL THOSE TYPES OF THINGS OFF THE GROUND.

FOR EXAMPLE, WE WENT TO GO OUT ON ELECTRIC DOOR AND IT DIDN'T WORK.

AND SO HE DID THE KNOB UP ON TOP OF THE ELECTRIC DOOR AND IT SPUN AROUND ALL THE WAY.

360 STILL DIDN'T OPEN THE DOOR.

SO IT'S OBVIOUSLY BROKEN. IT'S A LOT OF THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.

AND THEN ALL THE LOGISTICS OF PLANNING OUT.

I FIXED THAT, BY THE WAY. YOU GOT THAT FIXED.

YEAH. THE KNOB WAS STRIPPED.

OH IT'S STRIPPED. OKAY.

YES. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SUPERVISOR.

PLUMMER. THANK YOU. SUPERVISOR. OH, NO. NO. I'M SORRY. SUPERVISOR. THANK YOU.

SUPERVISOR. LONG SUPERVISOR. KELSTROM. BEN.

SUPERVISOR. OKAY. SO WELL.

WELL, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE YOU GET IN THERE AND GET THIS ELECTION OVER WITH.

AS FAR AS THE TENANT, I MEAN, I'M NOT FOR THIS 2.5 MILLION BY ANY MEANS AT ALL. I WANT I WOULD LIKE TO GET THROUGH THIS ELECTION, MAKE SURE EVERYTHING'S WORKS OUT LIKE YOU PLAN AND WORK OUT.

THEN WE CAN COME BACK AND DISCUSS MOVING.

I MEAN, I WOULD LIKE TO EVENTUALLY IF IF EVERYTHING GOES SMOOTHLY AND WORKS, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE OUR COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE MOVE DOWN THERE BECAUSE THERE'S NO SENSE IN PAYING, YOU KNOW, THAT LEASE OVER THERE IN MARKET STREET OR WHEREVER.

BUT SO IN THE MEANTIME, JUST THE BARE BONES MINIMUM TO GET YOU OVER THERE AND RUN AN ELECTION, YOU WOULD NEED THE OFFICE FURNITURE, YOU WOULDN'T NEED THE TENANT IMPROVEMENTS. YOU WOULD JUST BASICALLY, I MEAN, I WENT THERE WITH YOU, YOU JUST SHOVE EVERYTHING INTO THE CORNER, SET UP YOUR TABLES, SET UP YOUR.

I MEAN, YOU'D HAVE TO BRING OVER SOME TABLES AND SOME BENCHES. GET YOUR CAMERAS.

AND YOU SAID THE CAMERAS DON'T HAVE TO BE WIRED IN. THEY WORK ON THAT WORK.

HOW ABOUT THE TABULATORS? THEY CAN'T BE WIRED IN. OKAY. HOW ABOUT THE TABULATORS? COULD IT BE USB? SO THEN THERE WILL BE A WIRELESS THAT THEY CONNECT TO.

AND THAT'S WHAT YOUR STREAMERS WILL HIT.

THAT'S THE CAMERAS RIGHT? THAT'S THE CAMERAS. HOW ABOUT THE TABULATORS. TABULATORS CAN'T BE WIRED TO ANYTHING. SO WE DON'T NEED TO RUN WIRES FOR THEM.

OH NO. NEVER NEVER. OKAY.

AND WE'RE NOT RUNNING WIRES FOR CAMERAS. WHAT ARE WE WHAT ARE WE OWN LITTLE NETWORK.

WHAT ARE WE RUNNING WIRES FOR? NOTHING. NOTHING. NOTHING.

OKAY. DON'T NEED WIRES.

SO IT SOUNDS LIKE THE IT SERVICES MIGHT NOT BE AS HIGH AS $50,000 FOR A ONE TIME ELECTION. THERE'S REALLY NO POINT TO RUN CABLE ANYWHERE RIGHT NOW BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IF THE PEOPLE AREN'T THERE, WE DON'T NEED THAT SIDE TO HAVE ANY SORT OF NETWORK. SO LET'S TALK ABOUT THE GOOD SIDE OF THIS WHOLE THING.

OKAY, SO YOU'RE TELLING ME THAT COME ELECTION DAY POLLS CLOSE AT EIGHT? IS THAT WHEN YOU START TABULATING OR WOULD YOU ALREADY BE SORTING BEFORE THAT? THEY'LL HAVE TO SORT BEFORE IT.

THERE IS A LAW IN CALIFORNIA THAT YOU HAVE TO START YOUR COUNT FIVE HOURS BEFORE CLOSE.

OKAY, SO 3:00 IN THE AFTERNOON, RIGHT.

YOU START. WE'RE GOING TO DO IS JUST OPEN THE THINGS AND LEAVE THEM THERE. WE'RE NOT GOING TO TAKE THEM OUT OF THE ENVELOPES. TECHNICALLY, WE HAVE STARTED GOOD ENOUGH.

OKAY. SO AND YOU'RE NOT AND YOU CAN'T TAKE YOU CAN'T TAKE VIDEOS OF THAT PORTION BECAUSE THOSE HAVE THE NAMES ON THE BALLOTS OR NAMES ON THE ENVELOPES.

CORRECT. WELL, THOSE WILL NEVER BE SEEN BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE A CAMERA OVER THAT.

ANYTHING THAT'S MARKED OR ANYTHING, WHEN YOU FIRST TAKE THEM OUT, IT HAS TO BE SEPARATED. OKAY. SO THEN YOU TAKE THEM OUT, THEN YOU TAKE THEM OUT, YOU STACK THEM, AND YOU SEPARATE OUT. THE ONES THAT HAVE SOMEBODY SIGN THEIR NAME.

DREW A MOUSE, WHATEVER.

RIGHT? YOU CAN'T SEE THOSE ON THE BALLOTS EVER. THAT HAS TO ALSO GO OVER TO ARBITRATION. THE ONES YOU CAN TAKE, YOU THEN STACK INTO 50S, YOU SEAL THEM UP, YOU PUT A SEAL ON THEM.

THEY'RE A BATCH NUMBER.

AND THAT'S THE ONES THAT GET COUNTED IN THOSE TABULATORS.

THE OTHERS GET COUNTED AS EITHER ARBITRATION.

THERE WILL BE ARBITRATION AS WELL BECAUSE TWO OF THE COMPUTERS ARE ACTUALLY ARBITRATION COMPUTERS. SO ARE YOU TABULATING ANYTHING BEFORE 8:00 AT NIGHT? YOU'RE NOT TABULATING ANYTHING. ABSOLUTELY NOT. OKAY. SO SO YOU'RE YOU'RE SORTING THEM OUT AND GETTING THE ONES ADJUDICATED AND WHATEVER.

SO THAT NIGHT, 8:00, NOW YOU START RUNNING THEM THROUGH THE TABULATORS AND YOU SAY, THAT'S GOING TO TAKE ABOUT TWO HOURS. WELL, YOU TAKE YOUR BOX AND YOU TAKE IT BACK TO CENTRAL. IT SHOULD TAKE 1.87 HOURS.

SO YOU'RE TALKING TAKING THE BOX FROM THE PRECINCT BACK TO CENTRAL. YES. OKAY.

SO BUT MEANTIME, AT CENTRAL, YOU'VE ALREADY GOTTEN THE MAIL IN BALLOTS, THE EARLY VOTING, EVERYTHING.

THOSE ARE ALL ALREADY SORTED TO GO. SO NOW YOU BRING BACK THE PRECINCTS AT 8:00, YOU START TABULATING. TWO HOURS LATER, APPROXIMATELY, YOU GET THE RESULT. NOW, THAT RESULT IS BASED ON WHAT, 09,095% OF THE OF THE BALLOTS.

BECAUSE WE KNOW IN CALIFORNIA, IF YOU GO DOWN TO THE POST OFFICE ON THE DAY OF VOTING, YOU CAN DROP IT IN THE DROP BOX. NOW YOU HAVE TO WAIT A WEEK OR TWO TO GET THAT BACK. AND ESPECIALLY IF IT'S AN OVERSEAS BALLOT, YOU KNOW, IT MIGHT TAKE YOU TWO WEEKS. SO BUT THAT'S A VERY SMALL PERCENTAGE.

AND IF IT'S PROVISIONAL, THEY HAVE TEN DAYS TO CURE IT.

SO. OKAY. BUT THAT'S A PRETTY SMALL PERCENTAGE.

PRETTY SMALL PERCENTAGE. SO YOU'LL HAVE WHAT, 90, 95, 94, 93% OF THE VOTES COUNTED THAT NIGHT WITHIN TWO HOURS.

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YES. WELL, I'M. I WOULD BE WILLING TO SPEND A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY TO GET THAT TO HAPPEN.

SO I'LL GO ON TO THE NEXT.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. SUPERVISOR. COUNCILMAN. SUPERVISOR. PLUMMER. SO IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TWO DIFFERENT WAYS WE COULD DO IT. ONE WOULD BE THAT YOU DON'T MOVE ANY OF THE STAFF OVER THERE, AND YOU JUST RUN ELECTIONS THERE.

AND THEN WOULD THE BUILDING ESSENTIALLY BE EMPTY AND UNUSED EXCEPT FOR WHEN THE ELECTIONS ARE HAPPENING? WELL, I WOULD PROBABLY LEAVE THE VOTING ASPECT AT MARKET SIMPLY BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE PEOPLE KNOW TO GO.

AND I DON'T WANT TO MAKE IT CONFUSING TO THEM THIS QUICK IN THE DATE.

WE COULD EASILY PUT IT OVER AT THE OTHER BUILDING.

WE MAY OPEN BOTH JUST TO GIVE THEM AN OPTION, BUT THAT WOULD GIVE PEOPLE THE ABILITY TO VOTE WHEREVER THEY THINK THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO VOTE. SO THEY'RE NOT CONFUSED. THEY'RE NOT RUNNING AROUND. YOU KNOW, IT TAKES A WHILE FOR PEOPLE TO KNOW WHERE TO GO.

OKAY. IT'D BE MY DREAM THAT THEY ALL GO HERE AND WE HAVE LIKE, TWO PEOPLE SHOW UP. BUT, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T REALLY KNOW. SO HE JUST BROUGHT UP A GREAT POINT. WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT? BECAUSE IF HE IF HE MOVED THE ELECTION PART FROM MARKET OVER TO JO-ANN FABRICS, LIKE THAT'S NOT A LOT OF TIME.

AND I'M NOT REALLY COOL WITH THAT BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S NOT ENOUGH TIME TO LET THE PUBLIC KNOW THAT THE LOCATION DOWNTOWN.

I DON'T KNOW, JUST BOARD DISCUSSION.

SO I'M JUST CURIOUS ANYWAY. YEAH. I MEAN, I'M THINKING ABOUT THE COST AND THE, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE EITHER PAYING FOR TWO LEASES, YOU'RE PAYING FOR THIS HUGE OPEN WAREHOUSE 12 MONTHS OUT OF THE YEAR AND YOU'RE NOT, YOU'RE ONLY USING IT. WELL, I THINK THAT'S OFF THE TABLE. I THINK WE'RE ALL NOT I DON'T THINK ANY OF US ARE GOING 12 MONTHS. RIGHT. I MEAN, NO, I MEAN THIS BOARD DISCUSSION.

YEAH. AND I THINK 3 OR 4 MONTHS IS WHAT WE WANT TO DO.

THREE AND FOUR. IF WE DO A SHORT TERM LEASE, IT SEEMS LIKE IT WILL DRIVE UP THE COST IN THE SHORT TERM. AND WHAT ARE AND SUPERVISOR KELSTROM YOU MENTIONED IF IT WORKS, THEN WE'LL CONTINUE. I GUESS THE QUESTION IS WHAT DOES IT MEAN THAT IT WORKS? LIKE HOW DO HOW DO WE KNOW IF IT WORKS? LIKE WHAT IS WORKING MEAN? WELL, IF WE GET A IF WE GET.

IF WE COUNT 95% OF THE BALLOTS IN TWO HOURS THAT NIGHT.

TO ME, THAT WORKED. AND ESPECIALLY IF IF THE IF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE OBSERVING ARE HAPPY WITH THE OBSERVATION AND WE GET A RESULT IN TWO HOURS, THAT'S WHY THAT'S WHEN I SAY IT WORKED.

OKAY. SO THAT'S HELPFUL TO KNOW AS KIND OF YOUR, YOUR LITMUS TEST FOR IT.

THE I MEAN, THE CONCERN TOO IS IF WE GO THREE, FOUR MONTHS IN AND THEN WE'RE LIKE, OH YEAH, IT WORKED. THEN WE'RE COMMITTING TO POTENTIALLY, IF WE'RE MOVING EVERYBODY OVER THERE, $6 MILLION OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS, IF THE LANDLORD EVEN LETS US, YOU KNOW, SPREAD THAT OUT AND MAYBE WE CAN DO IT FOR HALF THAT PRICE. I'M JUST SAYING, LIKE, FOR ME, IF IT WORKS, THEN WE MOVE, I THINK, TO PURCHASE A PURCHASE A BUILDING, BECAUSE I'M NOT INTERESTED IN LEASING, I'M TIRED OF LEASING.

I THINK IT'S STUPID. THE COUNTY LEASES AS MUCH PROPERTY AS IT DOES.

DO WE HAVE A SENSE, BRYCE? I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN OF YOU KNOW WHAT THAT TYPE OF REAL ESTATE AT THAT SQUARE FOOTAGE WOULD COST IF WE WERE TO WANT TO PURCHASE.

OBVIOUSLY, I, I DON'T THINK THIS IS EVEN ON THE MARKET AT THIS POINT FOR A PURCHASE, BUT THIS ONE'S NOT. WELL, THE OWNER SAID EVERYTHING'S FOR PURCHASE.

YOU KNOW, I MEAN, LIKE, LIKE ANY OTHER ENTREPRENEUR OR BUSINESS OWNER, EVERYTHING'S FOR SALE.

BUT JUST IN TERMS OF LIKE SQUARE FOOTAGE, WHAT WE'RE TYPICALLY LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW, I DON'T HAVE THOSE NUMBERS. I APOLOGIZE ON WHAT A BUILDING THIS SIZE WOULD COST.

WHEN WE LOOKED AT OTHER BUILDINGS, THEY WERE BETWEEN 2 TO $300 A SQUARE FOOT.

BUT AGAIN, IT DEPENDS ON THE MARKET RATE AT THE TIME.

THE COUNTY'S PROCESS IS WE HAVE TO GO AND GET A THIRD PARTY APPRAISAL.

AND THAT BECAUSE OTHERWISE IT COULD BE IF WE SPENT, YOU KNOW, IF WE GAVE SOMEBODY $100 MILLION, LET'S SAY IT WOULD BE CONSTITUTED AS A GIFT OF PUBLIC FUNDS. SO WE WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH OUR WHOLE PROCESS IN ORDER TO GET THE BUILDING APPRAISED BEFORE WE COULD FIND OUT WHAT OUR THRESHOLD WOULD BE, WHAT WE COULD SPEND. AND THEN IT'S UP TO THE TO THE OWNER, IF THAT'S EVEN, YOU KNOW, A WORTHWHILE INVESTMENT FOR THEM TO SELL THE BUILDING TO US.

JUST FOR CONTEXT, BECAUSE THE SPIRIT HALLOWEEN BUILDING USED TO BE OFFICE DEPOT COULDN'T SELL, I THINK IT WAS FOR 1.6.

AND NOW I'M MAD. I DIDN'T TRY AND BUY IT, BUT IT WENT TO AN AUCTION AND SOLD FOR 3.4, I BELIEVE. SO GO FIGURE.

AND THIS CALCULATING OUT THE 28,000, YOU'RE 28,000 RIGHT IN THE FACILITY.

20,000. SO TIMES 300 WOULD BE 8.4 MILLION.

YEAH. AND THAT'S THAT.

THERE'S NO WAY THAT WOULD SELL FOR 8.4 MILLION IN THE MARKET IN WRITING RIGHT NOW AND THEN. SO KIND OF A SEPARATE QUESTION IN TERMS OF THE CAMERAS IF YOU WERE TO STAY IN THE MARKET STREET LOCATION AND HAVE YOUR PRIMARY VOTING CENTER THERE COULD YOU SET UP YOUR CAMERA SYSTEM THERE? IT'S POSSIBLE, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT THE ELECTRICAL SYSTEM CAN HANDLE IT BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF POWER GOING ON AT THAT POINT.

SEE, THAT BUILDING WAS ACTUALLY AN OLD CIRCUIT CITY.

SO IT'S JUST THEY HAVE LIKE 16,000W WORTH OF POWER IN THE BACK.

AND IT'S LIKE, THAT'S, THAT'S ABNORMAL. IT LOOKS LIKE THEY COULD RUN LIGHT INDUSTRY, BUT I MARKET LOOKS A LITTLE I IMAGINE IT'S BALL IN TUBE.

I DON'T KNOW. IT LOOKS PRETTY OLD.

SO THEY MAY HAVE BROUGHT UP ABOVE THAT, BUT I WOULDN'T WANT TO PLUG MY WASHING

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MACHINE INTO IT. SO AND THEN ONE, ONE LAST QUESTION.

I BELIEVE WHEN WE WERE WHEN WE WERE TALKING LAST WEEK, YOU SAID THAT THE PRINTERS, THAT WHOLE SETUP OF PRINTING OUR OWN BALLOTS WOULD NOT BE READY FOR THE NOVEMBER SPECIAL ELECTION.

IS THAT AM I REMEMBERING THAT CORRECTLY? THAT'S PROBABLY CORRECT.

BASICALLY THEY'D BE READY THE MINUTE THEY SENT THEM TO US, BUT THEN IT HAS TO BE CERTIFIED BY THE STATE.

AND THAT'S THE HOOPS THAT SOMETIMES CAN TAKE A WHILE.

SO I MEAN, THEY MAY BE FAST BECAUSE WITH THIS SPECIAL ELECTION COMING UP, ALL THE PRINTERS ARE GOING TO BE SLAMMED ANYWAY BECAUSE WE'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE OUR BALLOT IN BY THE 26TH OF AUGUST, AND WE WON'T EVEN KNOW IF THERE'S GOING TO BE AN ELECTION UNTIL THE 28TH OF AUGUST.

SO EVERYBODY'S GOING TO GET THEIR WORK IN LATE IF THERE'S A STATEWIDE SPECIAL ELECTION.

SO LET ME ASK. OKAY. THE STATEWIDE THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO ASK BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TWO POSSIBLE ELECTIONS, RIGHT? THE CITY OF REDDING'S. IF IT'S JUST CITY OF REDDING, THEN IT SHOULDN'T BE CELEBRATING.

IT'D BE FINE BECAUSE YOU CAN MOVE THAT OFF. YEAH, BUT THE STATE, IF THEY PUT THEIR ZONE AT THE END, I MEAN, IF WE WERE DOING IT LOCAL, IT DOESN'T REALLY MATTER. WE COULD WAIT TILL THE LAST MINUTE. BUT IF WE HAVE TO ORDER AHEAD OF TIME, THEY WANT LIKE THREE WEEKS RUN TIME TO GET EVERYTHING TOGETHER.

AND WE DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THE STATE'S GOING TO HAVE ITS ELECTION OR WHAT THE TITLE IS, BECAUSE WE HAVE TO HAVE THE TITLE OF IT.

WE HAVE TO PUT IT IN THE VOTER GUIDE, YOU KNOW, AND THEY HAVE GIVEN US NOTHING. BUT JUST TO CLARIFY, IF IT'S JUST THE CITY OF REDDING SPECIAL ELECTION, ARE YOU SAYING THAT THE THAT YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO GET YOUR PRINTERS THROUGH THE WHOLE CERTIFICATION PROCESS IN TIME FOR A NOVEMBER ELECTION OR UNLIKELY? I HAVE NO IDEA. IT'S HOW FAST I THINK THE STATE WOULD BE MOTIVATED TO HELP US BECAUSE THEY'RE SLOWING DOWN EVERYTHING ELSE. AND SO THE PRINTERS ARE ALL GOING TO BE SCREAMING, AND THAT WAY THEY MAY WANT TO GET US OUT OF THE WAY.

IF THEY DO, THAT'S GOOD.

BUT I WOULDN'T WANT TO.

I WOULDN'T WANT TO BET ON IT.

MIGHT MAKE THEM GO SLOWER JUST BECAUSE IT'S A STATE, RIGHT? THEY CAN. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

SUPERVISOR. PLUMMER. LET'S.

SUPERVISOR. HARMON. YEAH, I THINK MOST OF MY QUESTIONS HAVE BEEN ANSWERED, BUT THE. SO BASICALLY WE'RE AT 16,000.

I'M USING ROUND NUMBERS A MONTH LEASE OVER HERE, THE OLD OFFICE. THIS ONE'S 32000 DOUBLE IT.

28. THEY'RE DOING IT. THEY'RE DOING A DOLLAR PER SQUARE FOOT, WHICH IS VERY LOW IN A HOT COMMERCIAL MARKET.

SO YEAH, I WAS JUST DOING THE DIVIDED BY 12.

WAS THE MATH WRONG? OKAY. I DIDN'T DO THAT.

BUT AND SO MY QUESTION IS MORE LIKE THE LONG TERM THOUGHTS ABOUT WHAT, WHAT DO WE DO? PROBABLY DOESN'T EVEN BE IN THIS CONVERSATION BECAUSE WE'RE NOT, WE'RE ONLY GOING TO DO SOMETHING TEMPORARY RIGHT NOW. I DON'T KNOW, WE'RE DOING THAT'S ALL WE, THAT'S ALL WE CAN DO.

AND I'M NOT EVEN SURE IF IT'S WORTH IT IF WE CAN.

WELL, YEAH, I WANT TO HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT. I KNOW SUPERVISOR LONG WANTS TO SAY SOMETHING ELSE. AND THEN I HAVE ONE CLOSING THING.

BUT BECAUSE I THINK BOARD DISCUSSION, I THINK BUT JUST ONE.

JUST ONE MORE. SO WE HAVE ANOTHER OFFICE IN HERE.

YES. WHAT'S WHAT'S THE MONTHLY ON THAT? FIVE, 6000, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

ANYBODY KNOW OFFHAND. RIGHT AROUND 5000.

BUT WE COULD ACTUALLY MOVE THAT OFFICE OVER TO MARKET BECAUSE APPARENTLY IT MOVED OVER HERE WITHOUT TELLING ANYONE. IT JUST KIND OF POPPED IN ONE DAY.

THAT'S THAT THAT IS TRUE.

SUPERVISOR COUNCILMAN. I WERE HERE IN 23, AND THEN WE WERE NOTIFIED THAT THE CLERK WAS MOVED OVER HERE, WHICH NOW THAT WOULD NEVER HAPPEN WITH OUR COUNTY COUNCIL, OUR CEO, AND THIS BOARD.

RIGHT. AN ENTIRE DEPARTMENT MOVED AND WE DIDN'T EVEN KNOW ABOUT IT ANYWAY, SORRY. GO AHEAD. SO IF WE DID MOVE THIS ONE OUT AND PUT IT, PUT EVERYTHING IN ONE SPOT AT SOME POINT DOWN THE ROAD, THIS IS LONG TERM DISCUSSION, BUT IF WE WERE TO DO THAT, DO WE HAVE SOMETHING ELSE WE'RE LEASING SOMEWHERE ELSE IN THE COUNTY THAT CAN BACKFILL THAT WHERE WE'D HAVE TO COME INTO HERE, I DON'T KNOW. I IMAGINE SOMEBODY WOULD, ALTHOUGH THE PARKING'S NOT GREAT. I DIDN'T MEAN THAT. HERE YOU GO.

HE'LL KNOW ONE SUPERVISOR HARMON.

AS AARON EXPLAINED, YOU HAVE TO PAY IT IN TWO YEARS IN ARREARS.

SO DOWN THE ROAD IT WOULD EVENTUALLY GET TO ZERO.

BUT IT WOULD HAVE A LONG TERM QUESTION.

SO THERE ARE WE DO HAVE OTHER LEASES.

IN TERMS OF WE LOOKED AT THIS A WHILE BACK.

GENERAL FUND DEPARTMENTS WOULD BE THE ONES THAT WOULD TARGET BECAUSE THIS IS WHERE THE MONEY IS COMING FROM. IT'S REALLY HONESTLY, WHAT WE WOULD PROBABLY BE LOOKING AT IS AN EXPANSION OF A CURRENT DEPARTMENT.

MOST OF OUR LEASES ARE HHS AYE, WHICH IS PRIMARILY STATE OR FEDERALLY FUNDED.

SO THERE'S A POSSIBILITY THERE MIGHT BE SOME MIGHT BE SOME SAVINGS THERE.

BUT OUR OTHER GENERAL FUND LEASES ARE ACTUALLY IN PRETTY GOOD SHAPE RIGHT NOW.

AND TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, THE NEW BUILDING LEASE WAS BASED ON A $1.50 A SQUARE FOOT. THE DOLLAR SQUARE FOOT WAS JUST FOR THE LEASE. MELISSA WAS ASKING FOR A TRIPLE NET, WHICH BASICALLY COVERS THEIR COSTS FOR INSURANCE AND PROPERTY TAXES, WHICH ARE VERY, VERY FIRST CONVERSATION WITH HIM, HE WAS, LIKE I SAID, GIVE ME A ROUGH NUMBER.

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HE SAID $0.15 A SQUARE FOOT.

BUT I'VE SEEN THAT BE AS LOW AS $0.10 A SQUARE FOOT AND AS HIGH AS $0.30 A SQUARE FOOT. SO WE WENT RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. SUPERVISOR HARMON SUPERVISOR LONG. THANK YOU, CHAIR, MR. CURTIS. YES.

SO AS I SEE IT, THIS BREAKS INTO LIKE FOUR COMPONENTS.

AND I KNOW I'M GOING TO BE OVERSIMPLIFYING THIS A LITTLE BIT, BUT NEW FACILITY BALLOT PRINTER INCREASED TABULATORS AND CAMERAS.

YES. CORRECT. CORRECT.

AND AS I SEE IT, AND I KNOW WE MIGHT HAVE A DIFFERENCE OF OPINION HERE ON THE BOARD, BUT THE FIRST THEY THEY FALL INTO A CERTAIN ORDER BECAUSE LIKE YOU SAY, IF WE WERE TO INVEST IN THE CAMERAS AT THIS POINT, YOU CAN'T USE THEM IN THE OLD FACILITY BECAUSE THEY COULDN'T HANDLE IT. SO IT WOULD HAVE TO BE IN THE NEW FACILITY. BUT WE DON'T HAVE THE NEW FACILITY FIGURED OUT COMPLETELY IN MY MIND, BECAUSE IT'S A LEASE.

WE DON'T HAVE TENANT IMPROVEMENTS NEGOTIATED AND FIGURED OUT.

AND THERE IS NO TENANT IMPROVEMENTS.

I DON'T WANT HIM TO DO ANYTHING.

NOTHING. I'M JUST I'M GOING OFF.

WHAT THE OKAY. WHAT, WHAT STAFF HAD SAID, WHICH IS THE $6 MILLION IN TENANT IMPROVEMENTS. SO AND I APPRECIATE, AS YOU SAID, WHEN WE WERE OUT THERE BEING CHEAP, WHAT DO WE WANT TO DO? RIGHT. YEAH. NO, I APPRECIATE THAT.

BUT SO MY MY POINT BEING, IT HAS TO FALL IN A CERTAIN ORDER.

AND IF WE START LOOKING INTO PART TIME LEASES AND THEN MAYBE NOT GETTING OUR TENANT IMPROVEMENTS BACK, OR MAYBE THE, THE LESSOR DOESN'T AGREE TO MAKE A FIVE YEAR AMORTIZATION AND WE END UP WITH $6 MILLION AND ALL, ALL THOSE KINDS OF THINGS ARE PROBLEMS. AND THE INCREASED NUMBER OF TABULATORS FROM 4 TO 16.

WE COULDN'T STUFF THOSE INTO THE OLD BUILDING.

SO THEY ALMOST HAVE THEIR THEIR CONTINGENT ON US HAVING THE FACILITY LOCKED DOWN ENTIRELY TO WHERE WE'RE COMFORTABLE. WELL, THAT'S WHERE THE REAL POWER DRAIN COMES IS FROM THE TABULATORS, CORRECT? BECAUSE BASICALLY THEY'RE BIG SCANNERS AND PRINTERS. I MEAN, THEY'RE THEY SUCK A LOT OF JUICE. THE CAMERAS WILL TAKE ALMOST NOTHING.

SO I CAN HAVE CAMERAS, BUT IF I DON'T HAVE TABULATORS, I HAVE NOTHING TO WATCH.

OH, YEAH. YEAH, I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THE LOGIC AND THE CHRONOLOGY OF IT.

I'M JUST SAYING IN MY MIND, THE FIRST ISSUE IS BUILDING YES OR NO, BECAUSE THE REST OF THEM DON'T WORK UNLESS THE NEW BUILDINGS IN PLACE, MEANING YOU CAN'T GET 16 TABULATORS INTO THE OLD BUILDING.

YOU CAN'T GET CAMERAS BECAUSE THE SYSTEM WOULDN'T SUPPORT THEM.

YOU CAN'T, YOU CAN'T, YOU CAN'T. SO THAT'S KIND OF THE QUESTION.

AND I THINK IT'S IT'S PREMATURE FOR ME AT THIS POINT TO FEEL COMFORTABLE FOR A LOT OF REASONS TO BE JUST STRAIGHTFORWARD WITH YOU.

THE FUNDING SOURCE, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT AN $8 MILLION HIT AND WHERE IT'S GOING TO COME FROM AND WHAT IT'S GOING TO OFFSET TO PAY FOR THIS, WHICH WOULD BE OFFSETTING OUR JAIL EXPANSION AND OUR ALTERNATIVE CUSTODY AND SOME OF THOSE ISSUES. WE GOT REALLY PRESSING TIMES WITH, WITH VERY LIMITED BUDGET FUNDS.

SO IT'S NOT THAT I DON'T THINK YOU HAVE A GOOD IDEA, IT'S JUST THAT I DON'T SEE HOW WE CAN PAY FOR IT.

AND I DON'T SEE THE ABILITY AT THIS POINT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A PART TIME SITUATION BECAUSE THAT JUST IS HUGELY PROBLEMATIC TO ME.

AND THEN IF WE TALK ABOUT THE A LONGER TERM SITUATION, THERE'S TOO MANY UNKNOWNS FOR ME JUST SO THAT'S JUST MY THOUGHTS ON THIS.

YEAH. IF YOU WENT TO PART TIME AND YOU DECIDED NOT TO KEEP THAT BUILDING, YOU'D HAVE TO TAKE THESE THINGS YOU WERE BUYING AND STORE THEM UNTIL YOU GOT A BUILDING YOU COULD USE THEM IN, LIKE MAYBE ONE OF THE RITE AIDS OR SOMETHING.

THEY'RE MUCH SMALLER. THEY'RE NOT AS AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE POWER CONSUMPTION ISSUE IS, BUT AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO UPGRADE A BUILDING THAT I DON'T WANT TO UPGRADE, I DON'T THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE IN THE CALCULATION. IT'S LIKE, TELL ME WHAT YOU NEED TO SPEND IT ON.

THE WIRING IS GOOD. THE AIR IS GOOD, THE PARKING LOT IS FINE.

NO HOLES DON'T EVEN NEED TO BE PAINTED.

SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE CAN GET IT DONE ON THE ONE PRICE AND NOT THE OTHER.

OKAY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

I'M GOING TO. OKAY. I'M GOING TO ASK ONE MORE QUESTION.

OKAY. HOLD ON. MISS BLANKENSHIP'S IN THE QUEUE.

OH, GOTCHA. SORRY. SORRY, CHAIR.

THAT WAS JUST MY I WAS GOING TO REQUEST THAT WE COULD TAKE THIS DOWN FOR THOSE WATCHING ONLINE. SUPERVISOR. HARMON. SO NOT TO OVERSIMPLIFY THIS, BUT BECAUSE I KNOW THERE'S ADA PARKING AND ALL THAT STUFF, BUT IT ALMOST SOUNDS TO ME LIKE FOR THE AMOUNT OF TIME, BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO BE REALLY QUICK ABOUT VOTING. NOW, WHY CAN'T WE USE A GYMNASIUM? NO, WE CAN'T BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF TIME. AND JUST JUST TO HELP YOU FOR THE BOARD DISCUSSION, I'VE ALREADY A WHILE AGO, I LOOKED AT THE FAIRGROUNDS AND THAT'S ACTUALLY A CAL FIRE STATE RUN TYPE OF THING.

SO THE AMOUNT OF TIME WE'D HAVE TO SHUT IT DOWN.

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NO, NO LOCAL. MAYBE I'M ANSWERING FOR YOU, BUT BUT BUT I LOOKED INTO THIS A LONG TIME AGO WORKING ACTUALLY WITH JOANNA FRANCESCA AT THE TIME ABOUT USING A GYM AND NO GYM HERE LOCALLY, COULD SHUT IT DOWN FOR THE AMOUNT OF TIME NEEDED TO.

I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH EVERYTHING THAT WASN'T EVEN THIS IDEA. EVERYTHING HAS TO HAVE A CERTAIN SECURITY LEVEL ON IT.

SO THERE'S A LOT OF EXPENSE FOR BLOCKING A BUILDING DOWN.

WE LOOKED AT THE VETERANS HALL, WHICH WAS A VERY BAD IDEA, BECAUSE WE WOULD HAVE HAD TO THROW 16 VETERAN GROUPS OUT, AND THAT DOESN'T SEEM TO MAKE A LOT OF SENSE. BUT EVEN IF WE DIDN'T, IT COULDN'T BE SECURED PROPERLY WHERE WE HAVE CONTROL OF IT, WE HAVE TO HAVE LIKE FULL CONTROL.

IT'S THE REASON WE CAN'T EVEN USE THE OTHER PRINTER. NOT MY RULE.

THEIR RULE. SO EVERYBODY IS BLOCKED OFF.

WE'RE GOING TO GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT. WE HAVE PEOPLE WAITING AND I.

OKAY, SO JUST FOR BOARD DISCUSSION AS PEOPLE TALK, I WOULD ENCOURAGE ALL MY FELLOW BOARD MEMBERS TO BE THINKING ABOUT A MOTION YOU WANT TO MAKE. THE LAST THING I'LL SAY, BECAUSE EVERYBODY KIND OF WENT AND I WENT AT THE BEGINNING, BUT FOR ME, I DEFINITELY WANT TO SEE THIS HAPPEN.

IF IT'S A FINITE, FINITE AMOUNT OF MONEY TO PROVE OUT THIS CONCEPT.

BECAUSE IF THIS CONCEPT WORKS, I THINK THAT'S GREAT, BUT IT CANNOT COST ANYWHERE CLOSE TO SOME OF THESE NUMBERS.

OKAY. PUBLIC COMMENT. MISS BLANKENSHIP.

THANK YOU. CHAIR. WE HAVE 19 SPEAKERS.

FIRST UP, PATTY GILOVICH, FOLLOWED BY SUSAN WEISS.

CHRISTIAN GARDNER AND MARGARET HANSON TWO.

I CALLED YOUR NAME. PLEASE GET IN QUEUE. I'M SUPPOSED TO BE THE LAST.

WHERE YOU. KNOW. COME ON UP, PATTY.

PATTY, COME ON UP. SHE WANTS TO GO.

LAST CHAIR. WELL, THIS IS NOT A.

IT'S OKAY. IT'S. MY RECOMMENDATION IS WE CALL THEM IN THE ORDER THEY ARE RECEIVED.

WHAT'S THAT? MY RECOMMENDATION IS THAT WE JUST CALL THEM IN THE ORDER THEY WERE RECEIVED. YEAH. I MEAN, THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SAYING THEY'RE GOING TO PASS BECAUSE THEY POSSIBLY HAVE TO BE EXCUSED.

ALL RIGHT. WE'LL REVISIT THAT.

THAT'S FINE. COME ON UP, SUSAN.

COME ON UP, SUSAN. YOU KNOW, THE DISCUSSION HERE IS LIKE A FAMILY TALKING ABOUT REMODELING THEIR HOUSE.

THERE'S SOME THINGS WE'D LOVE TO HAVE, AND THERE'S SOME THINGS WE JUST CAN'T AFFORD.

THIS DISCUSSION IS SO MUDDLED AND SO COMPLICATED.

AND I'M NOT A BUSINESSWOMAN, BUT THE COST.

IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.

LET'S FIGURE OUT A WAY TO STAY WHERE WE ARE BRINGING MORE CAMERAS.

DO WHATEVER WE CAN TO MAKE THE PUBLIC FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE.

BUT THIS IS THIS IS A MESS.

AND YOU KNOW WHAT? THE MONEY NEEDS TO BE SAVED FOR THE WHAT IS IT CALLED? LET ME HELP MYSELF TO THIS.

YES. ALTERNATIVE CUSTODY PROGRAM.

IF WE KEEP GIVING AWAY MONEY LIKE THIS, WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE THAT.

AND I THINK THAT'S FAR MORE IMPORTANT.

IF I HAD A CHOICE OF WAITING FOR MY BALLOT TO BE COUNTED AND HELPING PEOPLE GET OFF THE STREETS AND OUT OF THE JAILS, I'D TAKE THAT OVER ANYTHING.

THIS IS JUST FAR, FAR TOO COMPLICATED AND IT'S GOING TO COST US.

COULD JUST THINK WHEN WE GET OVER THERE AND WE LIKE IT, AND THEN YOU'RE GOING TO MOVE ALL THESE OFFICES OVER THERE AND YOU KNOW, WHAT ABOUT WHERE WAS THE SECURITY COST ON THIS BUDGET? YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE SECURITY SOMEWHERE IN THERE. I DIDN'T SEE THAT BECAUSE SECURITY IS HUGE. CAN HE POSSIBLY DO SOMETHING WITH WHAT WE HAVE? THINK. THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX.

THINK LIKE IF SOMEONE WANTS TO REMODEL THEIR HOUSE AND SAYING, WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT? WE'LL WE'LL PUT UP WITH THIS FOR A WHILE OR WE'LL DO OTHER THINGS JUST TO GET THROUGH. SO PLEASE SAVE THE MONEY FOR OTHER THINGS.

THANK YOU. CHRISTIAN GARNIER, FOLLOWED BY MARGARET HANSEN, FOLLOWED BY SOMEBODY WHO DID NOT GIVE A NAME, NOT TO STEP ON CURTIS'S ENTHUSIASM.

BUT THIS IS A HALF BAKED THIS.

THIS IS A BRIDGE TO NOWHERE, AND YOU MIGHT AS WELL JUST TAKE IT OFF THE TABLE TODAY. THIS THING IS NOT ONLY IRRESPONSIBLE, BUT. YEAH, SHERIFF JOHNSON NEEDS HIS CAMPUS MONEY.

THE JAIL NEEDS THEIR MONEY.

OUR SECURITY ISSUE THAT CLINT IS VERY CONCERNED ABOUT BY THE WAY, WE'VE BEEN INVESTIGATED BY THE GRAND JURY.

WE'VE BEEN THIS THING HAS GONE TO COURT 2 OR 3 TIMES.

RIGHT NOW WE'RE FLYING COLORS RIGHT NOW.

THE ROV IS DOING THE BEST THEY CAN WITH WHAT THEY GOT, AND THEY'RE DOING PRETTY DAMN GOOD.

THIS THING NEEDS TO BE TAKEN BACK.

YOU GUYS NEED TO COME UP WITH A DIFFERENT RECIPE, BECAUSE THIS WILL NEVER FLY WHEN WE'RE KICKING AROUND.

EIGHT. ANYBODY IN THE IN THE CONTRACTING BUSINESS KNOWS THIS.

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YOU COME IN AT EIGHT, YOU GOT TO ADD IT UP TO ABOUT 12 AT LEAST.

THAT'S JUST THE WAY IT GOES.

SO ONCE AGAIN, THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO APPROVE SECURITY OF OUR VOTE.

THAT'S BEEN PROVEN IN COURTS.

AND IT'S ALSO BEEN PROVEN BY A GRAND JURY.

IT'S ALSO BEEN PROVEN BY A BY CAPABLE STAFF DOING A DAMN GOOD JOB.

THIS. THIS HALF BAKED PROPOSAL IS A PIPE DREAM.

IT'S TIME TO WAKE UP. JUST CALL IT WHAT IT IS.

TAKE IT OFF THE TABLE.

EVERY ALL THE PRINCIPAL PARTIES INVOLVED.

GET BACK TOGETHER AND SEE IF YOU CAN'T PUT SOMETHING TOGETHER.

MARGARET HANSON, FOLLOWED BY NO NAME GIVEN, FOLLOWED BY RON PLUM, THEN THERESA. IF I CALLED YOUR NAME, PLEASE GET IN QUEUE.

IS MARGARET HERE? NOT SEEN.

MARGARET. MOVING ON. DID SOMEBODY NOT LEAVE A NAME? NOT SEEING ANYBODY. RON PLUM FOLLOWED BY THERESA, FOLLOWED BY STEVE KHAN, THEN DOLORES.

PLEASE GET IN QUEUE. COME ON UP, MR. PLUM. AFTERNOON, BOARD.

I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SAY IS THAT IT DOES NEED TO BE RELOOKED AT. CLINT CURTIS FIRST OPTION WAS TO USE THE BACK SIDE OF THE OLD COURTHOUSE.

YOU ALREADY OWN IT. IT'S BIG ENOUGH TO DO IF YOU'RE GOING TO SPEND MONEY, SPEND MONEY FIXING UP SOMETHING THAT'S WORTH SOMETHING.

IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, CORKY, I WOULD SAY IF YOU HAD IF YOU HAD AN OLD BARN AND SOMEBODY WANTED TO TEAR IT DOWN, BUT YOU COULD REBUILD A SIDE OF IT AND KEEP A BUNCH OF TRUCKS IN THERE AND KEEP THEM SAFE, OR TURN IT INTO A BAY TO REPAIR TRUCKS, WHATEVER YOU HAVE TO DO.

BOTTOM LINE, WE WOULD DO THAT.

AND I AGREE WITH THE LADY THAT SAYS, YOU KNOW, WE KIND OF GOT TO GET ALONG WITH WHAT WE'VE GOT.

AND IT JUST SEEMS LIKE YOU WANT TO TEAR THAT DOWN AND MAKE A DAMN PARKING LOT OUT OF IT.

THAT'S STUPID. STRAIGHT UP, I DON'T KNOW.

YOU KNOW, YOU YOU'RE GOING TO DO WHATEVER YOU WANT TO DO, BUT THIS NEEDS THAT SIZE OF AN EXPENDITURE.

NEEDS TO GO TO THE PEOPLE.

THAT'S WHAT I BELIEVE.

I BELIEVE YOU'RE WAY DOWN THE ROAD WHEN YOU SHOULD BE LOOKING AT WHAT YOU HAVE AND HOW CHEAPLY IT CAN GET DONE, ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO IT FOR FOUR MONTHS OR FIVE MONTHS OR SIX MONTHS.

AND THEN SOMEONE SAYS, CAN WE USE A GYMNASIUM? WELL, NO, WE CAN'T USE A GYMNASIUM BECAUSE OF MAYBE SECURITY OR SOMEBODY NEEDS A, YOU KNOW, HAVE A BASKETBALL GAME IN THERE OR SOMETHING.

BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS WE'VE GOT IT SITTING OVER THERE.

IT'S EMPTY. THAT MAKES SENSE.

IT'S LIKE THE 800 POUND, 08,000 POUND ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM.

USE WHAT YOU HAVE, FOR GOD'S SAKE.

THANK YOU. THERESA. FOLLOWED BY STEVE KHAN, FOLLOWED BY DOLORES LUCERO, THEN DAWN DUCKETT. YOU KNOW, I KIND OF HAVE TO AGREE WITH HIM ON THAT.

WITH AN ASPECT, BUT I ALSO HAVE TO I MEAN, THESE THESE NUMBERS ARE WAY INFLATED.

AND IF YOU HIRE A CONTRACTOR AND THEY SAY IT'S GOING TO COST YOU X AMOUNT OF DOLLARS, BUT IN THE END YOU PUT ANOTHER $4,000, $10,000 ON IT.

I WOULDN'T HIRE THAT CONTRACTOR BECAUSE THAT CONTRACTOR SHOULD BE ABLE TO LOOK AT IT AND GO, THIS IS WHAT IT'S GOING TO COST, PERIOD.

THIS IS WHAT WE DO. I RUN A BUSINESS ON A SHOESTRING BUDGET FOR THE LAST 25 YEARS.

IT'S STILL GOING. WE'RE STILL MAKING MONEY.

I MEAN, I RUN MY HOUSE, MY HOME THE SAME WAY.

IT'S A NICE HOME. I RUN IT ON A SHOESTRING BUDGET.

WHY? BECAUSE I DON'T NEED TO PAY FOR SOMETHING THAT I DON'T NEED. OKAY.

I THINK THAT THESE NUMBERS ARE WAY OVER INFLATED.

BUT I DO AGREE WITH WITH MR. PLUMB ON USING THE COURTHOUSE.

I MEAN, WE HAVE THAT. WE HAVE THAT.

NOW, ANOTHER THING YOU CAN LOOK AT TOO IS I DON'T KNOW WHAT ABOUT THE STILLBORN PARK.

OH THAT'S RIGHT. STILL SOMETHING, BUT OKAY.

YEAH. WHY NOT? I MEAN, WHY NOT BUY A PIECE OF PROPERTY THERE AND PUT UP A BARNDOMINIUM? I MEAN, THERE'S SO MANY THINGS THAT YOU CAN DO, EVEN JUST, JUST IF YOU'RE ONLY GOING TO BE USING IT FOR, YOU KNOW, MAINLY PART TIME.

BUT I THINK MAYBE FOR THIS FIRST ELECTION AND MAYBE THE SECOND ONE, WE SHOULD TRY TO USE THE COURTHOUSE.

WE ALREADY HAVE IT, YOU KNOW.

BUT THESE NUMBERS ARE STUPID.

THEY'RE STUPIDLY INFLATED.

I MEAN, LOOK AT THAT. THANK YOU.

AND IT IS OUR ELECTION.

IT IS SECURITY. AND I THINK THAT THE PEOPLE DESERVE TO BE ABLE TO TRUST THAT ELECTION.

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AND I KNOW THAT WE DON'T.

STEVE CONN FOLLOWED BY DOLORES LUCERO.

THEN DON DUCKETT, THEN JENNY.

GOOD AFTERNOON. SO CLINT CURTIS WANTS TO TAKE THE MONEY WE PUT ASIDE FOR THE JAIL, THE ALTERNATIVE CUSTODY CENTER, AND SOLVING A PROBLEM WE REALLY DO HAVE, WHICH IS A CRIME ISSUE HERE THAT WE'VE ALL BEEN TALKING ABOUT THAT I THINK EVERYBODY AGREES WITH THAT. EVERY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC HAS BEEN EXPOSED TO TO SOME EXTENT.

AND INSTEAD, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THAT MONEY AND SPEND IT TOWARDS A NONEXISTENT PROBLEM.

WE'VE DONE AUDITS. WE'VE LOOKED AT OUR ELECTIONS CLOSELY.

YEAH, THEY COULD BE EASIER.

THEY COULD BE A LITTLE BIT MORE OBSERVABLE.

YES. WE NEED A BUILDING DOWN THE ROAD.

BUT TO TAKE THAT MONEY NOW FROM SOMEPLACE THAT WE REALLY NEED IT AND APPLY IT TO SOMETHING THAT THAT'LL NEVER MAKE THEM HAPPY ANYWAY.

THERE WILL STILL BE PEOPLE THAT SAY, NO, WE HAVE TO HAVE HAND COUNTING.

I'M NOT HAPPY IT'S NOT WORKING RIGHT? NOT CORRECT. NO, WE HAVE TO HAVE HAVE NO MAIL IN BALLOTS, WHICH WOULD DISENFRANCHIZE 80% OF THE VOTERS.

YOU'RE NEVER GOING TO MAKE THEM HAPPY. IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.

AND SO YOU WANT TO SPEND A MAJORITY OR A BIG CHUNK OF THE MONEY THAT WE SHOULD BE PUTTING MORE MONEY ASIDE FOR PUBLIC SAFETY, NOT DEPLETING IT.

WE NEED THAT MONEY IN ORDER TO MAKE A VERY SIGNIFICANT AND POSITIVE IMPACT ON THE QUALITY OF LIFE IN SHASTA COUNTY.

AND SPENDING IT ON THIS BOONDOGGLE IS NUTS.

WE DON'T HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT IT'S GOING TO COST FOR A SHORT TERM LEASE.

MY GUESS IS CLOSE TO WHAT IT COSTS FOR THE LEASE FOR THE YEAR.

I MEAN, I KNOW I WOULD I'M NOT GOING TO SCREW MY WHOLE BUILDING UP FOR NO REASON.

AND ALSO IT WOULD GIVE US TIME TO WORK WITH WHAT WE'VE GOT.

GIVE US TIME TO LOOK FOR A GOOD LOCATION.

REASONABLE. WE DON'T NEED A LOCATION ON DANA DRIVE TO OPERATE OUR ELECTIONS OFFICE OUT OF.

WE CAN FIND A BETTER PIECE OF REAL ESTATE FOR LESS MONEY.

THAT WORKS BETTER FOR US.

THAT IS WHAT I THINK WE SHOULD BE DOING.

WE'RE RUSHING THIS, AND IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN BEFORE NOVEMBER. I JUST DON'T SEE IT HAPPENING. THANK YOU. DOLORES LUCERO, THEN DON DUCKETT, THEN JENNY, THEN BENJAMIN NGUYEN.

IT'S RIDICULOUS HOW WE ARE HERE STILL AT THIS TIME FOR THIS.

REGARDING THIS ITEM, YOU KNOW, MR. CLINT CURTIS DOESN'T EVEN QUALIFY TO BE HERE TO BE ASKING FOR THAT KIND OF MONEY, OR TO BE ASKING FOR A DAMN BUILDING THAT IS GOING TO COST MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.

I MEAN, THIS GUY IS A DEMOCRAT.

HE'S A BLACK LIVES MATTER SUPPORTER.

HE CAN'T, YOU KNOW, IT'S RIDICULOUS.

HOW ARE WE GOING TO TRUST HIM? HE'S ALREADY HE'S GOT 11 LAWSUITS PENDING AGAINST HIM.

11 LAWSUITS PENDING AGAINST HIM.

DO WE NEED ANOTHER LAWSUIT? BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. YOU'RE GOING TO DRAIN THE SHASTA COUNTY.

YOU'RE DRAINING IT. THE TAXPAYERS ARE GOING TO END UP PAYING FOR THIS.

YOU BRING TWO. YOU BRING THIS ATTORNEY FROM THE.

IN OTHER WORDS, HE'S AN OUTSIDER.

HE HASN'T EVEN BEEN HERE LONG ENOUGH TO COME IN HERE TO COME AND ASK FOR THAT KIND OF MONEY. WHAT DO YOU THINK? WE'RE MADE OUT OF MONEY.

WE'RE NOT MADE OUT OF MONEY.

THAT MONEY SHOULDN'T EVEN BE CONSIDERED TO BE GIVING IT TO HIM OR TO EVEN DECIDE.

BUT YOU KNOW WHAT I HEARD? I HEARD THIS IS A DONE DEAL BY YOU THREE ALREADY.

IT'S A DONE DEAL THAT YOU'RE GOING TO VOTE ON IT. EVEN YOU MAKE THE DISCUSSIONS.

BUT I KNOW IT'S A DONE DEAL.

IT'S BEEN ALREADY BEEN TALKED ABOUT.

HOW DARE YOU. SO IF YOU'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT, THAT'S A VIOLATION OF THE BROWN ACT.

AND WE KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO RUBBER STAMP IT BECAUSE THEY SAID THEY WANT TO MAKE A PLATFORM FOR NATIONAL.

IT'S ALL ABOUT THESE. THIS ATTORNEY, HE WANTS TO MAKE A BIG THING.

SO THAT WAY THEY GET A NATIONAL ATTENTION.

IT'S ALL ABOUT THEM. JUST.

THEY'RE JUST LIKE YOU, KEVIN.

JUST LIKE YOU. THERE AIN'T NO DIFFERENT.

IT DOESN'T. HAVE YOU SEEN WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE WHEN THEY SHOW CLINT CURTIS ON TV? WHEN HE'S SITTING BEHIND THE DESK, IT LOOKS LIKE A LAW FIRM.

IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE AN ELECTION DEPARTMENT.

HOW DARE YOU BRING THESE PEOPLE WHO DON'T EVEN QUALIFY TO MAKE THESE DECISIONS WE CAN'T AFFORD THAT. WE NEED A JAIL.

THANK YOU. SEAN DUCKETT, FOLLOWED BY JENNY, THEN BENJAMIN, FOLLOWED BY LAURA HOBBS.

OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO BRING IT DOWN A LITTLE BIT.

I'M A REGISTERED REPUBLICAN AND A SELF-PROCLAIMED FISCAL CONSERVATIVE, AND I THINK IF YOU WERE TO POLL THE CITIZENS OF SHASTA COUNTY AND I THINK SUPERVISOR PLUMMER YOU DID A POLL, I DON'T THINK TRUST AND ELECTIONS WOULD MAKE THE TOP FIVE IN ISSUES THAT WE'RE CONCERNED WITH.

WE'RE CONCERNED WITH CRIME, HOMELESSNESS, ADDICTION, LACK OF MEDICAL CARE, WHICH IS YOUR PET PROJECT.

SUPERVISOR CRYE WILDFIRE.

AND WE JUST WOULD NOT AGREE WITH YOU SPENDING ANY SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY IN A PROBLEM

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THAT ISN'T TANGIBLE IN MOST OF OUR EYES.

THE OTHER POINT I'D LIKE TO MAKE IS THAT OUR REGISTRAR OF VOTERS IS A TEMPORARY INTERIM PERSON FILLING IN FOR THAT ROLE, AND IN TEN MONTHS WE'LL HAVE AN ELECTION AND WE WILL HAVE A HOPEFULLY AT THAT POINT, A PERMANENT PERSON IN THAT ROLE AND FOR THE BOARD TO RUSH TO A DECISION BASED ON AN INTERIM PERSON THAT REALLY HAS NO HANDS ON EXPERIENCE RUNNING ELECTIONS, IT JUST SEEMS IRRESPONSIBLE WITH THE COUNTY FISC. I WOULD BE OKAY WITH GIVING HIM A COUPLE EXTRA TABULATORS AND HAVING THOSE WORK AT THE EXISTING FACILITY.

YOU KNOW, AND SET HIM UP FOR AS MUCH SUCCESS AS YOU CAN.

BUT TO GO OUT ON THIS LEASE AND TO DO AN EXPERIMENT AND SPEND HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS IT'S NOT WHAT THE PEOPLE WANT.

GENTLEMEN, YOU NEED TO GET OUT OF YOUR SILOS AND UNDERSTAND WHAT THE COMMUNITY IS REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU JENNY, FOLLOWED BY BENJAMIN NEUEN, THEN LAURA HOBBS, FOLLOWED BY GARY PIRO.

WELL, I, I LIKE, I LIKE THAT THERE'S PROBLEM SOLVING HAPPENING AND THAT IT ACTUALLY SORT OF PRACTICAL PROBLEM SOLVING.

I'M NOT SURE THAT SPENDING MONEY FROM THE JAIL TO THIS IS THE BEST IDEA, BUT BUT IT'S FUNNY TO ME, AND IT'S FUNNY TO A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT IT WAS A JOANNE'S, IT'S GOING TO BE HARD NOT TO BE FUNNY.

I MEAN, I IMMEDIATELY THOUGHT OF THINGS LIKE, CAN WE TRADE? I VOTED STICKERS FOR FOR JOANNE'S COUPONS AND CAN THEY BE REDEEMED AT MICHAEL'S? LIKE JUST THINGS LIKE THAT CAME TO MIND.

AND I'M SORRY, IT'S HARD TO TAKE SERIOUSLY OUTSIDE OF THAT, BUT IT ACTUALLY ISN'T A BAD BUILDING.

AND THE PARKING LOT IN ITSELF DOES HAVE ITS ADVANTAGES.

SO THE BIGGEST QUESTION IS SPENDING AND WHETHER OR NOT YOU BELIEVE THIS IS WHERE THE MONEY SHOULD GO. AND THAT'S REALLY JUST IT BECAUSE THERE'S DEFINITELY PLACES FOR THE MONEY TO GO. SO IS THIS WHERE IT SHOULD GO? THANK YOU. THANK YOU. BENJAMIN.

FOLLOWED BY LAURA HOBBS, THEN GARY, FOLLOWED BY DAVID HALLIGAN.

SO FIRST AND FOREMOST, WE'VE BEEN TOLD THAT THERE'S NO DISCRETIONARY FUNDS FOR THIS. SO THE FUNDS WOULD HAVE TO COME FROM JAIL FUNDS OR ALTERNATIVE CUSTODY INITIATIVES. BOTH ARE TIED DIRECTLY TO PUBLIC SAFETY.

SO THAT ALONE SHOULD GIVE US PAUSE.

I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT THAT, BUT SO THE GOAL IS WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE TO ME IS TO HAVE ELECTION RESULTS WITHIN TWO HOURS.

HOWEVER, I DON'T THINK ANY OF THESE CHANGES ARE ACTUALLY GOING TO ACHIEVE THAT.

YOU ALSO GOT TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT YOUR MAIL IN BALLOTS.

YOU CAN'T POSSIBLY HAVE THOSE COUNTED THAT QUICKLY.

THE CURRENT REGISTRAR MENTIONED USING VOLUNTEERS.

WELL HOW ARE THEY BEING BACKGROUND CHECKED? ARE THEY BEING COMPENSATED? WHAT SPECIFIC ROLES WILL THEY HAVE AND HOW WILL THEY BE SUPERVISED? WIRELESS CAMERAS. SO YEAH, I GET THAT THEY'LL BE USED FOR SIMPLICITY, BUT EVEN WIRELESS DEVICES NEED POWER.

EVEN STAFF MEMBERS NEED A PHONE.

AND THE COUNTIES THE COUNTY IS A VOICE OVER IP SYSTEM WHICH I HELP CHOOSE WHEN I WORKED HERE IT REQUIRES HARDWIRED CONNECTIONS.

AND HERE'S THE BIG ONE.

YOU CAN'T JUST BUY SPECTRUM INTERNET AND A CHEAP ROUTER AND START STREAMING BALLOTS.

THE COUNTY NEEDS TO INSTALL A SECURE NETWORK BRIDGE TO CONNECT TO THE COUNTY'S INFRASTRUCTURE. THAT'S HOW WE PROTECT SENSITIVE ELECTION DATA FROM HACKING.

WASN'T THAT A WASN'T THAT OUR ELECTIONS? ONE OF THE CORE PRINCIPLES THAT LED TO APPOINTING CLINT CURTIS IN THE FIRST PLACE? I SUPPOSE WE COULD CUT SOME CORNERS AND USE CAN AND STRING.

BUT THIS JUST DOESN'T SOUND LIKE GOOD BUSINESS.

IT SOUNDS LIKE BUYING A NEW CAR WHEN THE OLD ONE STILL WORKS, AND AGREEING TO PAY DOUBLE THE COST PLUS UPGRADES YOU CAN'T TAKE WITH YOU.

I'M NOT AGAINST IMPROVING THE ELECTIONS OFFICE, BUT THIS IS A NICE TO HAVE, NOT A MUST HAVE. CHOOSING IT OVER PUBLIC SAFETY, ESPECIALLY WITHOUT A FULL PLAN FOR COST SECURITY AND REALISTIC OUTCOMES, IS A MISTAKE. THANK YOU.

LAURA HOBBS FOLLOWED BY GARY PERREAULT, THEN DAVID HALLIGAN, THEN JIM BARNETT. PLEASE GET IN QUEUE AS FIVE SECONDS AFTER THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER WALKS AWAY, THE CLOCK STARTS. SO GOOD EVENING.

GOOD AFTERNOON BOARD. THE FACT THAT THE UNELECTED BUREAUCRATS HAVE MASSIVELY INFLATED THESE NUMBERS IN ORDER TO IMPEDE FORWARD PROGRESS IN OUR ELECTIONS OFFICE AND SCARE THE BOARD OUT OF SUPPORTING THE NEW ROV, TELLS ME THAT THIS IS THE CORRECT PATH FORWARD. AND IN FACT, BETTER YET, YOU KNOW, I JUST I WITNESSED SOMEBODY, A COUNTY WORKER, COME UP HERE AND SAY THAT HE HAD TO WIRE THE WHOLE BUILDING. THAT'S NOT TRUE.

CLINT REFUTED THAT RIGHT HERE IN FRONT OF US.

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SO WE KNOW THAT THESE NUMBERS ARE FAKE.

WE KNOW HOW COUNTY WORKS AND HOW COUNTY WILL SLOW THINGS DOWN TO THE SPEED OF GOVERNMENT IN ORDER TO IMPEDE PROGRESS.

I SUGGEST WE SAVE THE $7 MILLION THAT WAS PLANNED TO GO FOR THE DEMOLITION OF THE COURTHOUSE. SAVE THAT MONEY AND UTILIZE IT.

CLINT CURTIS HAS ALREADY SAID THAT HE CAN UTILIZE THE OLD COURTHOUSE, AND HE WOULDN'T EVEN NEED TO HAVE TO GO TO THIS NEW BUILDING, JOANNE'S FABRICS. SO WHY NOT DO THAT? YOU'D BE SAVING A LOT OF MONEY.

THERE ARE PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTY THAT ARE UPSET WITH THE DEMOLITION PLAN.

THEY LIKE THE OLD COURTHOUSE.

THEY LIKE THE WAY IT LOOKS.

THEY DON'T WANT TO CHANGE THE FEEL OF THE DOWNTOWN AREA AND PUT UP AN UGLY PARKING LOT AND PLACE OF A HISTORICAL BUILDING.

SO WHY NOT DO THAT? I FEEL LIKE WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE IS THAT THE COUNTY WORKERS AND PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY ARE TRYING TO IMPEDE FORWARD PROGRESS, AND I THINK THAT'S WRONG.

I THINK OUR ELECTIONS NEED SEVERE IMPROVEMENT.

I DON'T. I DON'T SUPPORT GETTING MORE MACHINES, MORE HEART MACHINES. HOWEVER, I DO SUPPORT CLINT CURTIS AND I THINK THAT WE NEED TO GIVE HIM EVERYTHING HE NEEDS TO SUCCEED.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I'M NOT SEEING GARY FOLLOWED BY DAVID HALLIGAN.

COME ON UP. AND THEN JIM BURNETT, LORI BRIDGFORD, THEN ROBERT. THANK YOU.

I LOVE KEVIN'S OPENING LINE WHEN HE ASKED, GIVE ME THE KEYS.

HOW LONG IS IT GOING TO TAKE? THAT'S ALL ABOUT PROJECT MANAGEMENT AND A TIMELINE.

THE TIMELINE DOESN'T CHANGE WHETHER YOU DO IT IN OCTOBER OR MAY.

THERE SHOULD BE A TIMELINE WITH A HUGE EFFORT ON WHAT IT'S GOING TO TAKE, HOW MUCH IT'S GOING TO TAKE, WHEN IT'S GOING TO TAKE. I'M LOOKING AT THE RENT. WE'RE PAYING 207,000 A YEAR WHERE WE'RE AT.

WE'RE GOING TO GO TO 394.

THAT'S 32,877. PLUS WE'RE GOING TO ADD ANOTHER 5300 BUCKS A MONTH IN UTILITY COSTS THERE. WHAT HAPPENED TO THE BUDGETS? WE JUST GOT DONE WITH THEM IN JUNE.

I THOUGHT WE HAD AN OLD SHORT 5% RULE IN THIS COUNTY.

IF YOU GO OVER 5% OF YOUR BUDGET, SHE WANTS A PLAN ON HOW YOU'RE GOING TO GET BACK ON TRACK. WE NEED TO LOOK AT THOSE THINGS HERE.

I'VE I'VE HEARD SOME REALLY GOOD QUESTIONS BY YOU SUPERVISORS TODAY ASKING ABOUT WHAT CAN WE DO? HOW CAN WE DO IT? WHAT CAN WE GET BY ON.

AND I THINK WE REALLY NEED TO LOOK AT THAT AS FAR AS BUILDINGS GO.

I DID MENTION TO CLINT THE RITE AID BUILDINGS, YOU GOT FIVE FIVE STORES IN BANKRUPTCY RIGHT NOW.

I THINK THEY'RE GOING TO BE AVAILABLE. AND YOU KNOW, EVEN THE EUREKA WAY ONES, 18,700FT². GUESS WHAT? THEY ALL HAVE DRIVE THRUS. SO YOU CAN DO YOUR DROP BOXES IN THERE TOO.

AND YOU COULD LEAVE THE OFFICE STILL HERE AND MAKE 18,000FT² WORK WHERE YOU'RE NOT GOING UP, DOWN AND DOWN STAIRS. YOU'D HAVE A LOT MORE ROOM FOR THAT.

SO I THINK I THINK IT'S GOOD DIALOG, BUT I THINK CLINT, WE HAVEN'T SEEN HIM RUN AN ELECTION.

LET'S SEE HIM RUN AN ELECTION.

LET'S SEE HIM RUN A SIMPLISTIC ELECTION OF TWO BOXES TO CHECK.

HE SHOULD BE WORKING ON VOTER ROLLS, TRAINING HIS STAFF.

LET'S SEE HOW NOVEMBER GOES. AND WHO KNOWS, IN JUNE HE MIGHT NOT BE THE NEXT ONE.

ANYWAY. HERE. THANKS, JIM BURNETT, FOLLOWED BY LORI BRIDGFORD, THEN ROBERT, THEN MICHAEL JOHNSON.

GOOD AFTERNOON. INITIALLY I WANT TO SUPPORT CLINT CURTIS'S IDEA OF MOVING THE ELECTIONS OFFICE DOWN TO JOANNA'S, BUT ALSO RON PLUM AND SOME OTHERS.

GIVE ME PAUSE TO THINK THAT YES, WE DO HAVE THAT.

WE STILL HAVE THAT COURT, OLD COURT IN OUR POSSESSION, AND THAT COULD BE ADEQUATE FOR THE JOB.

MY MAIN THING IS OBSERVING ELECTIONS IS NOT, A MEANINGFUL OBSERVATION OF ELECTIONS IS NOT AN OPTION. A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE SAYING, WELL, YOU KNOW, IT'D BE NICE TO HAVE.

WELL, YEAH, IT'D BE NICE TO HAVE BECAUSE IT'S THE LAW AND THE LAW CANNOT BE ADMINISTERED CORRECTLY. IF WE IF WE USE THAT OLD TWO STORY BUILDING AGAIN AND AGAIN.

AND SO THE GOOD OBSERVATIONS, MEANINGFUL, LAWFUL OBSERVATIONS ARE NOT POSSIBLE IN THAT BUILDING THAT WE HAVE.

SO IN THAT CASE, I THINK WE NEED A NEW LOCATION FOR THIS UPCOMING NOVEMBER ELECTION.

WE BETTER GET MOVING FAST BECAUSE WE'RE TIME'S RUNNING OUT.

AND IF WE CAN'T PROPERLY OBSERVE EVERYTHING, THEN WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING.

ELECTIONS ARE THE BUILDING BLOCK OF OUR WHOLE COUNTRY.

IT'S A DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC, AND WE'RE USING THE MOST DEMOCRATIC MEANS POSSIBLE BY CASTING A BALLOT.

WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERY STEP OF THAT BALLOT PROCESSING IS DONE WITHOUT ERROR AND IS DONE WITH EVERYBODY'S EYES ON IT.

AND IF WE DON'T HAVE THAT, WE WERE BACK WHERE WE ARE ARGUING ABOUT THIS.

MY MAIN GOAL IS TO GET US TO A POINT WHERE BALLOT PROCESSING IS NOT CONTROVERSIAL.

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EVERYBODY LEFT, RIGHT, CENTER HAS TO AGREE THAT IT WAS DONE PROPERLY AND IF NOT IMMEDIATE, CORRECTION NEEDS TO BE MADE.

BUT WE DON'T NEED TO ARGUE ABOUT THIS ANYMORE.

WE JUST NEED TO SETTLE IT.

THANK YOU. LORI BRADFORD FOLLOWED BY ROBERT THEN MICHAEL JOHNSON.

OKAY. YEAH. THERE'S NO EASY, CLEAR OPTION FOR THE DISCUSSION.

I WAS WATCHING THE POWERPOINT AND I WAS ACTUALLY THINKING OF JUST PASSING, BUT I JUST WE HAVE TO DO BETTER THAN ROCK, PAPER SCISSORS TO, TO FIGURE THIS OUT. WE HAVE ABSOLUTELY SECURED ONE OF THE BEST PEOPLE EVER TO HELP THIS ELECTION. WE NEED CAMERAS.

WE NEED SOMETHING NEW, SOMETHING DIFFERENT AND IT CAN'T WAIT AND BE STALLED AND DRAGGED OUT.

I DON'T CARE IF WE NEED TO GO NEXT DOOR TO THE OLD BUILDING.

FINE. SAVE 7 MILLION. GREAT.

CRIMINALS. CRIMINAL. OBVIOUSLY, WE CAN SEE CRIME ON YOUR LOCAL TV NEWS.

WHAT WE DON'T SEE IS THE CRIME OF THE ELECTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN HAPPENING FOR A LONG, LONG TIME. BOTH ARE CONSIDERED CRIMES.

SO AT SOME POINT, WE HAVE GOT TO GET A HOLD OF THIS BEAST AND START ADDRESSING IT.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF JONES CAN DO A A SHORT, CHEAP GET IN LEASE OR NOT.

I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE THEY'RE DESPERATE FOR SOME MONEY, BUT WE NEED TO BE CREATIVE.

AND WE NEED TO START UTILIZING HIS EXPERTISE KNOWLEDGE AND OTHERWISE HE'S JUST GOING TO GET BEAT UP NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS.

THEY'LL SAY, OH, YOU DIDN'T DO ANYTHING. YOU COULDN'T GET IT DONE. WHATEVER.

SO I DON'T KNOW. PARKING SUCKS.

WE KNOW THAT. BUT IF WE HAVE TO DO IT TO GET AT LEAST SOME HONEST ELECTIONS GOING.

IT'S WORTH IT TO ME. THANK YOU.

NEXT UP, ROBERT, FOLLOWED BY MICHAEL JOHNSON, FOLLOWED BY PATTY GILOVICH.

GOOD AFTERNOON. HOW DID A $2.6 MILLION INITIAL REQUEST FROM AN APPOINTED A BOARD APPOINTED SHORT TIMER WITH NO EXPERIENCE. GET ON THE DOCKET WEEKS AFTER THE BUDGET WAS APPROVED. I MEAN, OUR EXPERIENCED, WELL RESPECTED D.A.

GAVE A STELLAR FIVE STAR BUDGET PRESENTATION, AND THE CHAIR JUST BLEW HER OFF.

AND THIS IS ANOTHER RUSH JOB, RIGHT? LIKE DUMPING THE ELECTION MACHINE, SLAMMING THROUGH THE RANCHERIA DEAL WITHOUT TELLING SHERIFF MIKE DA BRIDGETT AND THE OTHER STAKEHOLDERS.

BECAUSE THAT SORT OF SHOOT FROM THE HIP STYLE HAS WORKED SO WELL FOR US IN THE PAST.

CURTIS JUST SAID HE'S ASKING THIS BECAUSE WE NEED ELECTIONS WE CAN TRUST.

WHO'S WE? NOT ME OR ANYONE WHO IS INFORMED AND OPEN TO HEARING FACTS INSTEAD OF FEAR THINKS THIS IS AN ISSUE THAT MERITS MONEY AHEAD OF OUR NUMBER ONE PRIORITY, THE COUNTY JAIL. THIS IS A DIM WITTED MONEY BURNING SCHEME, AND A LEASE INSTEAD OF A PURCHASE IS BRAINLESS.

LISTEN, GENTLEMEN, THE ELECTION IS LESS THAN A YEAR AWAY. WHY WOULD WE NOT WAIT UNTIL THE RESULTS FROM THE ELECTION? I MEAN, CURTIS HASN'T WON, HE? MOST SHAMEFUL OF ALL, HOW CAN YOU PILFER FROM THE JAIL ALTERNATIVE CUSTODY FUND, WHICH IS A NEEDFUL COMMUNITY PROJECT WE CAN ALL AGREE ON TO TO TO SIPHON IT TO A DIVISIVE PROJECT.

CORKY AND MADAM APPEALING TO YOU.

I KNOW ALLEN WILL MAKE THE RIGHT DECISION FOR THE CITIZENS OF SHASTA COUNTY BASED ON REASON AND SOUND CONSERVATIVE FISCAL MANAGEMENT.

PUBLIC SAFETY IS NUMBER ONE.

THAT'S WHAT WE WANT. THANK YOU.

MICHAEL JOHNSON, FOLLOWED BY PATTY JELAVICH.

GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIR, BOARD OF SUPERVISORS. I'M HERE.

I'M GOING TO STAY AWAY FROM ALL THE LOGISTICS AND THE PRESENTATION OF THIS BUILDING THAT HAS GONE AND JUST TELL YOU THE REAL REASON I'M HERE, AND THAT IS TO DEFEND THE FUNDING FOR THE ALTERNATIVE CUSTODY PROGRAM THAT I HAVE BEEN YOUR SHERIFF FOR FOUR YEARS NOW, JUST JUST A COUPLE WEEKS SHY OF FOUR YEARS NOW. FIRST THREE YEARS, WE AS A COUNTY, WE AS THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS THEN AND NOW HAVE BEEN WORKING TO GET A NEW JAIL BUILT THE FIRST THREE YEARS.

AND THAT HAS KIND OF FORTUITOUSLY LED US TO WHERE WE ARE NOW WITH THE ALTERNATIVE CUSTODY PROGRAM AND THAT DEAL THAT WE HAVE GOING FORWARD.

ALL THAT FUNDING THAT WAS SET ASIDE ORIGINALLY FOR THE NEW JAIL HAS BEEN COMMITTED BY YOU ALL FOR THIS ALTERNATIVE CUSTODY PROGRAM, AND WE HAVE BEEN WORKING VERY HARD, AND I'M VERY PROUD.

AND THE EVERYBODY SHOULD KNOW THAT.

SET ASIDE YOUR DIFFERENCES OF OF EACH SUPERVISOR UP THERE THAT YOU MAY OR MAY NOT LIKE. THEY'VE ALL BEEN ON BOARD OF IT WITH HELPING WITH THIS AND ESPECIALLY MATT PLUMMER AND KEVIN CRYE AND I HAVE BEEN WORKING IN EXHAUSTIVE DETAIL TO GO THROUGH AND STRIKE SOME DEALS WITH THE STATE, GET ADDITIONAL FUNDING AND MAKE THIS THING HAPPEN. SUPERVISOR PLUMMER EXPERTISE, AND IT'S GOING TO GO WITH THE CDCR, CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS AND SUPERVISOR.

OUR CHAIR CRIES EXPERTISE IN BUILDING THE RELATIONSHIP WITH THE NONPROFIT IS GOING TO

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HELP. THE BOTTOM LINE IS THIS WE'RE GOING TO NEED EVERY PENNY OF THAT ALTERNATIVE CUSTODY PROGRAM FUNDING THAT WE HAVE SET ASIDE, PLUS FUNDING FROM THE STATE AND FROM THE FEDS TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. IT'S GOING TO MAKE A HUGE DIFFERENCE IN THIS COMMUNITY.

IT'S GOING TO CHANGE THE WAY CORRECTIONS WORK IN THIS STATE AND IS WELL WORTH IT.

I URGE YOU AND BEG YOU NOT TO DIP INTO THAT MONEY TO PAY FOR THIS PROJECT.

CHAIR, I APOLOGIZE FOR THE INTERRUPTION WHILE PATTY IS ON HER WAY UP.

I WANTED TO JUST TAKE AN OPPORTUNITY WITH YOUR SUPPORT TO CLEAR UP SOME CONFUSION REGARDING TODAY'S PUBLIC COMMENT.

CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE'VE DONE BEFORE. SPEAKERS WILL BE HEARD IN THE ORDER THAT THEIR REQUEST EXCUSE ME, REQUESTS WERE RECEIVED.

SO MOVING FORWARD, SPECIAL REQUESTS FOR A DIFFERENT ORDER WILL NOT BE ACCOMMODATED.

THIS APPROACH ENSURES FAIRNESS, CONSISTENCY AND EQUAL TREATMENT FOR ALL.

SO WITH THAT, GO AHEAD, PATTY.

I'D LIKE TO TELL YOU THAT I DID COME LAST AND THAT'S WHY.

AND THAT'S WHAT THEY TOLD ME AT THE DOOR.

SO ANYWAY I WANT TO MAKE A REBUTTAL TO AN EARLIER SPEAKER.

THE ROV IS NOT A SUBORDINATE OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.

THEY ARE ELECTED BY THE PEOPLE AND ANSWERABLE TO VOTERS.

UNFORTUNATELY, BOARD OF SUPERVISOR CONTROLS THE BUDGET, AND THE BOARD MAJORITY CHOSE TO UNDERMINE THEIR ELECTED COUNTERPART.

SIMILARLY, THEY'VE UNDERMINED THE SHERIFF AND DISTRICT ATTORNEY.

INTERESTING THAT THE BOARD CHAIR IS NOW IN FAVOR OF TABULATORS AS RECENT.

AS RECENTLY AS THE 2020 ELECTION WE HAD TABULATORS AT EACH.

PRECINCT'S BALLOTS WERE COUNTED AFTER THE POLLS CLOSED AND RESULTS POSTED AT THAT LOCATION BEFORE LEAVING THE POLLING PLACE.

IT'S ALSO INTERESTING THAT CRYE IS BLAMING THE OBSERVATION TRANSPARENCY PROBLEM ON THE CURRENT BUILDING, NOT THE PROCESS.

NO CLUE OF THE APPOINTED MOTIVATION.

PERHAPS IT'S AN EFFORT TO BECOME RELEVANT ON A NATIONAL LEVEL, AS SUGGESTED BY HARMON AT HIS APPOINTMENT INTERVIEW.

HE'S CLEARLY NOT HERE TO HELP SHASTA COUNTY HIS CLAIM.

HE CLAIMS HE WANTS TO RESTORE TRUST IN OUR LOCAL ELECTIONS, AND IT'S HOLLOW. IF THAT WERE HIS GOAL, HE WOULD RESIGN AND RECOMMEND JOANNE FRANCESCA REPLACE HIM.

THE LAST ELECTION FOR ROV GARNERED NEARLY 70% OF THE VOTE FOR CATHY.

PLEASE STICK TO OUR EIGHT ABOUT THE BUDGET.

IT'S NOT ABOUT ELECTION WITH PEOPLE.

WITH JOANNE SECOND IN COMMAND.

THE VOICE OF FELLOW CITIZENS WAS CLEAR IN EXPRESSING TRUST.

SHASTA COUNTY HAS MANY NEEDS DISMANTLING AND RESTRUCTURING.

OUR ELECTION DEPARTMENT IS NOT ONE OF THEM.

REMOVING ONE PENNY FROM DOLLARS EARMARKED FOR PUBLIC SAFETY IS IRRESPONSIBLE.

BY THE WAY. WHAT HAPPENED TO THE MILLION DOLLAR GRANT MONEY THAT THE COUNTY WAS AWARDED FOR AN ELECTION BUILDING A FEW YEARS AGO? I WOULD ENCOURAGE THE THREE NEWEST SUPERVISORS TO REVIEW THAT HISTORY.

I BELIEVE TWO CURRENT MEMBERS WERE INSTRUMENTAL IN REJECTING CHAIR.

WE DID HAVE A REQUEST FROM NICK GARDNER.

HE WAS APPARENTLY THE ONE WHO LEFT HIS NAME OFF THE CARD. SO IF YOU'RE WILLING TO ACCEPT HIM TO COME UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.

AND THEN JUST SO WE'RE CLEAR WELL, I'LL COMMENT ON THAT AFTER WE DID RECEIVE THAT MILLION DOLLARS FROM THE CTCL.

YES, I KNOW WE DID. AND IT WAS HIDDEN FROM YOU GUYS.

YOU KNOW, THERE'S NOTHING MORE IMPORTANT THAN HONESTY AND INTEGRITY IN OUR ELECTIONS.

THAT'S IT. IF WE CAN'T TRUST THE PEOPLE THAT ARE RUNNING THE ELECTIONS.

IF WE CAN'T HAVE CONFIDENCE THAT OUR ELECTIONS ARE HONEST, WE DON'T HAVE MUCH OF ANYTHING.

WE'VE GOT A THIRD BUT THIRD WORLD BANANA REPUBLIC.

AND YOU KNOW, I DID A SURVEY AND TALKED OVER 200 PEOPLE AND 90% DID NOT TRUST OUR ELECTIONS. TERRY RAPOZA AND HIS GROUP, THE PATRIOTS, WELL OVER 100 PEOPLE, THEY DON'T TRUST THE ELECTIONS.

PATTY PLUMB IN HER GROUP.

AND I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY IT IS.

THEY DON'T TRUST THE ELECTIONS.

WE DON'T HAVE TRUST IN OUR ELECTIONS, AND THIS IS OUR CHANCE TO GET TRUST IN OUR ELECTIONS. MAYBE THIS IS IS PRETTY EXPENSIVE, BUT YOU KNOW, HOW CAN YOU PUT A PRICE TAG ON HONESTY AND INTEGRITY? I DON'T BELIEVE WE'VE HAD THAT IN QUITE A WHILE.

AND PEOPLE THAT WANT TO SPEND MONEY ON THE HOMELESS, RATHER THAN HONESTY AND INTEGRITY IN OUR ELECTIONS, I THINK ARE MIS MISLED SOMEHOW.

IT JUST SEEMS TO ME THAT WE HAVEN'T BEEN HAPPY WITH THE DIRECTION OF OUR ELECTIONS FOR THE LAST TWO ELECTION CYCLES.

WE'VE GOT AN ELECTION COMING UP IN A LITTLE MORE THAN TWO MONTHS.

WE NEED TO GIVE CLIFF CURTIS THE OPPORTUNITY TO RUN AN ELECTION WITH HONESTY AND INTEGRITY. I KNOW IT'S GOING TO WORK.

AND YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS THE JAIL GOES, WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET A JAIL.

WE'RE GOING TO GET AN ALTERNATIVE CUSTODY PROGRAM WHERE THE INMATES,

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IF YOU WANT TO CALL THEM THAT, ARE GOING HOME AT NIGHT.

I DON'T CALL THAT A JAIL.

AND I I'M IN FAVOR OF OKAYING WHAT CLINT CURTIS WANTS TO DO.

I DON'T WANT TO SPEND THAT MUCH MONEY ON A BUILDING, BUT THIS IS PROBABLY AN IDEAL BUILDING AND WE WON'T GET ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. I WANT TO CLEAR A COUPLE THINGS UP, AND. AND THEN SUPERVISOR PLUMMER IS IN QUEUE.

FIRST, I JUST WANT TO. IT'S JUST REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE CLEAR THE RECORD BECAUSE FOR SOME REASON, A LOT OF PUBLIC COMMENT ALWAYS COMES BACK TO ME FOR WHATEVER REASON.

SO THE TABULATORS, I WAS DEFINITELY IN FAVOR OF GETTING RID OF ALL MACHINES UNDER THE WAY IN WHICH I BELIEVED MACHINES WERE BEING USED.

I'M OKAY WITH BRINGING THEM BACK BECAUSE AS WE TALK ABOUT OBSERVATION AND CHAIN OF CUSTODY, SEE, SO MUCH OF THIS COMES DOWN TO CHAIN OF CUSTODY.

YOU CAN'T HAVE TUBS OR OPEN BALLOTS EXPOSED TO EVERYBODY BECAUSE THEN IT'S THERE'S NO TRUST. AND AGAIN, I'M A PERSON THAT HAD THREE ELECTIONS THAT WERE WITHIN TINY AMOUNTS OF VOTES. SO IT MATTERS GREATLY TO ME.

AND THE SECOND THING I WANT TO SAY IS WHEN PEOPLE SAY TRUST, I MEAN, AND THIS JUST CAME IN A LITTLE BIT AGO, I BELIEVE I HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO SUBSTANTIATE THIS, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE THE TEXAS SENATE DID PASS THE MAP THAT ADDS FIVE GOP SEATS, ELIMINATING FIVE DEMOCRATS.

AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT PASSED. I JUST GOT A TEXT A WHILE AGO DURING BREAK.

SO IF YOU THINK ELECTIONS IS NOT GOING TO BE A NATIONAL OR STATE OR LOCAL CONVERSATION, YOU'RE NUTS BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO GET RAMPED UP TO THE MILLIONTH DEGREE.

NOW, I WILL SAY, BEFORE OTHER PEOPLE MAKE MOTIONS, I'M GOING TO TELL WHOEVER'S GOING TO MAKE MOTIONS.

YOU KNOW, I, I, I PERSONALLY WANT A SHOT TO SEE IF I CAN NEGOTIATE ALMOST TO RENT THE BUILDING FOR A DOLLAR.

BECAUSE I'M NOT GOING TO BUDGE VERY HIGH.

BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT THE REASON MR. CURTIS, FOR MY VOTE, OR THE REASON I VOTED FOR MR. CURTIS IS IF WE WANT. WE'VE ALWAYS GOT CONTINUE TO DO WHAT YOU'VE ALWAYS DONE.

HE IS BRINGING SOMETHING NEW, SOMETHING DIFFERENT. AND I THINK WE OWE IT.

PLEASE DON'T CLAP. I THINK WE OWE IT TO MR. CURTIS TO HAVE THE BEST SHOT AT SUCCESS, BUT IT'S DEFINITELY NOT GOING TO COME WITH MASSIVE COST FOR MY VOTE ANYWAY, INTO THE GENERAL FUND, WHICH WOULD THEN EQUATE TO THE ALTERNATIVE CUSTODY PROGRAM.

SO BEFORE HE MAKES A MOTION, I'M JUST SAYING IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO JUST TAKE THE LEASE OUT OF IT, BECAUSE IF WE CAN'T NEGOTIATE THAT WITH THE INDIVIDUAL FOR A BUCK AND GET THEM ON BOARD FOR WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE IN THE COUNTY, THEN I CAN'T SUPPORT IT BECAUSE I JUST CAN'T SPEND THAT MONEY THAT.

MR. CURTIS, WE'VE GOT TO FIGURE SOMETHING ELSE OUT.

THAT'S WHERE I AM WITH THAT.

SUPERVISOR PLUMMER YEAH, I WOULD SAY I'M IN A SIMILAR SPOT IN THE BUDGET THAT IT HAS TO BE EITHER NET NEUTRAL IN TERMS OF HOW MUCH IT'S PULLING FROM THE GENERAL FUND OR, YOU KNOW, MAYBE I WOULD CONSIDER FOR THE RIGHT THING $100,000. AND THAT'S WHAT WE DID WITH THE DA.

IT WAS ABOUT 100,000 THAT WE GRANTED IN HER BUDGET AMENDMENT.

AND SO YOU KNOW, SO I THINK THAT TAKES THIS CURRENT LEASING SITUATION OFF THE TABLE.

THE SO I WOULD MAKE A MOTION THAT MR. CURTIS, IF HE, IF HE SO DESIRES, WOULD COME BACK WITH A DETAILED ROI STUDY ON THE, ON THE BALLOT PRINTERS TO SEE IF THAT WILL SAVE MONEY AND HOW MUCH TIME.

IT'S HARD TO GO OFF OF KIND OF JUST A SINGLE NUMBER TO LET US KNOW IF THE CAMERAS COULD BE USED IN THE MARKET STREET FACILITY.

IT SOUNDED LIKE THERE WAS SOME QUESTION MARKS THERE. AND THEN IF NEITHER OF THOSE ARE AN OPTION BRINGING BACK A PROPOSAL FOR THREE ADDITIONAL TABULATORS, WHICH BASED ON MY CALCULATIONS, WOULD GET US TO ABOUT $100,000.

SO THAT WOULD BE MY MOTION, WHICH I KNOW IS DETAILED SO I COULD REPEAT IT IF NECESSARY. I'M JUST LOOKING DOWN AT SUPERVISOR LONG.

OKAY, SO DIES FOR LACK OF A SECOND, UNLESS SOMEBODY NEEDS THAT REPEATED.

OKAY. SUPERVISOR. HARMON.

I JUST GOT A QUESTION, CURTIS.

WE MOVED ALL THE CHAIRS OUT OF THIS ROOM ONCE BEFORE.

WOULD THIS ROOM WORK? WE COULD PUT PERMANENT CAMERAS UP HERE.

I HAVE TO ASK MARY RICKERT IF WE CAN DO THAT. WE CAN GO TO SHASTA LAKE CITY, ASK THEM IF WE CAN HAVE OUR MEETINGS THERE.

AND WHATEVER TIME THAT TAKES.

EVERY ELECTION CYCLE. IS IT WEEK? TWO WEEKS? WHAT? HOW LONG WOULD YOU NEED THIS ROOM? WE'LL TAKE ALL THE NO FOR BOARD DISCUSSION.

THERE'S NO WAY I'M NOT GOING TO KICK KICK THE PUBLIC OUT OF HERE.

I'M JUST. I'M JUST. I'M JUST TRYING TO MOVE THIS ALONG.

IT WOULDN'T MATTER. WE'D HAVE TO SECURE THE ROOM FOR A MONTH.

YEAH. SO SHASTA LAKE DOESN'T WANT US BACK? YEAH, I'M JUST SPITBALLING, BUT.

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SUPERVISOR KELSTROM. ALL RIGHT.

AND FIRST OF ALL, CLINT, YOU DID.

LOOK, WE OBVIOUSLY DID.

LOOK AT THE BUILDING OVER HERE. WE WENT EXTENSIVELY OVER THE COURTHOUSE, AND IT WOULD NOT WORK. AND THE ADA COMPLIANCE AND THE LEAD PAINT AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

SO OBVIOUSLY WE DISCUSSED BEAT THAT DEAD HORSE QUITE A WHILE.

SO I'M LOOKING AT THIS. COULD YOU COULD YOU GET DONE WHAT YOU NEED DONE? IF WE WERE TO JUST RENT THIS BUILDING FOR FOUR MONTHS, SAY, IF WE WERE TO START IT LIKE, YOU KNOW, THIS WEEK.

YES. IF YOU RENT IT FOR FOUR MONTHS AND WE COULD GET THE TABULATORS, YOU CAN PUT OFF THE PRINTERS RIGHT NOW, ALTHOUGH THAT'S WHERE THE MONEY REALLY SAVES BECAUSE SO THE PRINTER ISN'T, IS, IS.

YEAH, THAT'S OFF THE TABLE BECAUSE THERE'S JUST, QUITE FRANKLY, WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO SECRETARY OF STATE'S NOT GOING TO CERTIFY IT IN TIME.

RIGHT. SO SO I JUST, YOU KNOW, GET THIS BACK UP HERE.

SO NEW BUILDING LEASE $394,000.

WE, IF WE DID THAT BY A MONTH AND DID FOUR MONTHS, THAT'D BE 131 000 FOR THE BUILDING.

SO AND THEN TAKE THE PRINTER OFF THERE.

I'M THINKING WE CAN CUT THE UTILITIES IN HALF BECAUSE THE 64,000, WE'RE ONLY GOING TO NEED IT FOR FOUR MONTHS. PROBABLY CAN CUT IT LOWER THAN THAT. THAT WOULD BRING US RIGHT DOWN TO LIKE 800 AND $801,013.

YOU'D STILL GET THE CAMERAS, YOU'D GET THE, THE TABULATORS, YOU'D GET THE BUILDING FOR FOUR MONTHS TO GET THROUGH THE ELECTION AND GET IT DONE.

NOW, IF CHAIRMAN CRYE COULD GET THE BUILDING FOR A DOLLAR, THEN THAT WOULD BRING US DOWN TO $670,000.

AND SO I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO THAT.

WE RENT THE BUILDING FOR FOUR MONTHS.

GET THE CAMERAS, GET THE TABULATORS.

AS FAR AS WHERE THE MONEY COMES FROM.

YEAH, I DEFINITELY, I DON'T WANT TO TAKE AWAY FROM THE ALTERNATIVE CUSTODY PROGRAM.

WE ACTUALLY SET THAT MONEY ASIDE BACK IN CHAIRMAN JONES DAY BECAUSE FRESNO HAD BUILT A JAIL FOR $40 MILLION. AND WHEN WE GOT 35 MILLION SAVED UP, WE THOUGHT WE WERE REALLY CLOSE. BUT THEN THE COST OF A NEW JAIL WAS 150 MILLION.

SO SHERIFF HAS A GREAT PLAN FOR AT LEAST GIVING SOME CONSEQUENCES TO SOME CRIMES.

A NEW JAIL IS KIND OF OUT OF THE QUESTION RIGHT NOW.

BUT I WOULD MAKE THE MOTION TO BRING THIS DOWN FOR FOUR MONTHS AT $801,013.

IF SUPERVISOR CHAIRMAN CRYE CAN CUT THE LEASE DOWN TO $1 A MONTH.

BUT WHILE WE'RE NEGOTIATING THAT, I WOULD MAKE THAT MOTION AND I WOULD LEAVE IT UP TO CEO RICKERT AND WONDERFUL AARON BURTON AND YOURSELF TO SEE IF WE CAN FIND THE FUNDING SOMEWHERE OTHER THAN THE ALTERNATE CUSTODY PROGRAM.

SO THAT'S MY MOTION. OKAY, MOTION TO TABLE.

I SUPERVISOR KELSTROM FOR DISCUSSION.

FOR DISCUSSION. I'M GOING TO SECOND IT, BUT I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO AMEND IT.

ONE OF MY. CLINT, CAN YOU COME BACK UP? YEAH. THAT'S WHY THOSE ARE RESERVED.

SO CAMERAS FOR VOTING.

I WOULD HAVE TO BECAUSE HERE'S MY THING, RIGHT? I'M LIKE, YOU KNOW, I KNOW ANYBODY ELSE IN HERE KNOWS IF THEY'RE HONEST ABOUT IT, THAT THE ELECTIONS IS, IS A NATIONAL AND IT'S A REAL THING.

I HAVE TO BELIEVE WITH YOUR REACH AND EXPERIENCE, THERE HAS TO BE, THERE HAS TO BE A PROCUREMENT OPPORTUNITY.

WE'D HAVE TO RENT OR LEASE THESE CAMERAS.

I KNOW IN MY PRIVATE COMPANY I'VE USED VARIOUS VENDORS FOR MASSIVE VIDEO WALLS, SOUND TRUSSING, ETC. I BELIEVE MISS BLANKENSHIP, WE'VE USED A VENDOR MULTIPLE TIMES FOR REMOTE TYPE THINGS.

I KNOW CAL FIRE, I THINK USES NET SOUND IS NET.

WE'VE USED NET SOUND. THERE MAY BE AN OPPORTUNITY, I THINK, FOR YOU TO RENT THIS EQUIPMENT AT A FRACTION AT A FRACTION OF THAT COST BECAUSE AGAIN, I DON'T WANT TO BUY CAMERAS.

IF, IF, IF THIS TANKS AND, AND IT DOESN'T GO WELL.

OKAY. I'M JUST NOT INTERESTED IN THAT'S WHY YOU, THAT'S WHY YOU, YOU KNOW, LEASE A CAR OR RENT A CAR TO SEE IF YOU LIKE IT OR TEST DRIVE IT, ETC..

SO I'M GOING TO ELIMINATE THAT COST.

I'M GOING TO DRIVE THAT WAY DOWN. NOW, MANY OF YOU IN HERE MAYBE SUPPORT OTHER PEOPLE THAT WE DIDN'T SELECT FOR THIS POSITION, BUT EVERYBODY THAT WAS ADAMANTLY AGAINST THIS MAN WAS ABSOLUTELY FOR OVER $1 MILLION OF TABULATORS. SO IF YOU WANT TO SCREAM AND YELL BECAUSE YOU WOULD HAVE BEEN ELATED IF WE WOULD HAVE BOUGHT TABULATORS FOR A PAST EMPLOYEE OR A PAST ROV.

SO THE TABULATORS I'M OKAY WITH BECAUSE THAT'S STILL A FRACTION OF THE NUMBER THAT MANY IN THIS ROOM WERE GOING TO SUPPORT ACTUALLY TWO AND THREE TIMES THAT DOLLAR AMOUNT. SO I THINK THE TABULATOR COST IS OKAY.

AND I, AND THAT WHEN IT COMES TO THE ALTERNATIVE CUSTODY PROGRAM, THAT MONEY WOULD HAVE COME OUT OF THAT SAME BUCKET.

IF, IF THIS BOARD WOULD HAVE WENT, IS THAT, IS THAT, IS THAT A CORRECT STATEMENT? CEO RICKERT OR MISS BURTON, IF WE WOULD HAVE DONE THAT DURING BUDGET TIME AND WE WOULD HAVE BOUGHT THOSE TABULATORS.

AND LET SAY MISTER CURTIS WASN'T HERE BECAUSE TOM TOLLER WAS THE ROV.

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TOM TOLLER WAS THE ROV, THE ASSISTANT ROV WAS JOANNA FRANCESCA.

THEY WANTED $1 MILLION OF TABULATORS.

AND THAT WAS VERY HIGHLY SUPPORTED BY MANY PEOPLE.

WOULD THAT MONEY HAVE COME OUT OF THE ACP OR NOT OUT OF THE ACP, BUT OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND? IT WOULD HAVE COME OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND. YES. SO SO WE'RE ALL CLEAR ON THAT, THAT IF IF HE WASN'T IN CHARGE, EVERYBODY WAS OKAY WITH THAT BEFORE.

BUT BECAUSE HE'S HERE, ALL OF A SUDDEN WE'RE NOT.

SO I'M OKAY WITH THE 392.

AND BUT THE 145 I'M NOT.

SO SO HERE IS WHAT IT'S GOING TO COME DOWN TO FOR ME.

I'M GOING TO MAKE A SUBSTITUTE OR I'D ASK YOU TO AMEND YOUR MOTION.

SUPERVISOR. KELSTROM AND SUPERVISOR. PLUMMER. I WANT YOUR BRAIN AS WELL WITH THIS.

YOU SAID 100,000 100,000 IS BECAUSE YOU MATCHED IT WITH THE D A, RIGHT? YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT LEGAL SECRETARIES YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

I'M NOT SAYING THEY'RE NOT IMPORTANT, BUT YOU'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT PROSECUTORS.

YOU'RE NOT. I MEAN, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A VERY YOU KNOW, NOMINAL PIECE OF THAT OFFICE, ALBEIT VERY IMPORTANT.

IT'S NOMINAL COMPARED TO WHAT MR. CURTIS IS ASKING FOR AS ELECTED HIMSELF IN TERMS OF DOING SOMETHING THAT IS COMPLETELY GOING TO, I BELIEVE, BRING THIS COMMUNITY TOGETHER IN A WAY TO DO IT OR IT BLOWS UP.

THAT'S GOING TO BE ON YOU AND WE'RE GOING TO GET TO SEE. AND THAT'S WHAT'S GREAT IS WE'RE GOING TO GET TO SEE THAT IN NOVEMBER OPPOSED TO HAVING TO WAIT AND HAVING YOU SAY, COME ELECTION TIME, OH, IT'S GOING TO BE GREAT. JUST GIVE ME THE CHANCE. NO, LET'S GIVE HIM THE CHANCE.

LET'S MAKE HIM WALK THE PLANK.

AND IF IT BOMBS, THEN THAT'S ON HIM.

I DON'T WANT HIM SAYING OR ANY ELECTED OFFICIAL SAYING I DIDN'T GET A CHANCE.

MY HANDS WERE TIED. SO MY QUESTION SUPERVISOR PLUMMER IS I WANT TO WORK WITH YOU ON THIS BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE SUPERVISOR KELSTROM MOTION.

OR MAYBE I'M JUST BLOWING YOUR MOTION UP. I DON'T KNOW, BUT I MEAN, I NEED TO KNOW WHAT THAT NUMBER IS BECAUSE I WILL SAY I'M GOING TO HAVE TO GET THAT BUILDING ALMOST FOR FREE OR YOU AND I OR SUPERVISOR PLUMMER CAN GO.

BUT THE NEGOTIATION, I BELIEVE, REALLY HAS TO BE.

AND EVEN IF IT'S NOT THAT BUILDING, IF THERE'S A BUILDING THAT SOMEBODY ACTUALLY BELIEVES IN ELECTION INTEGRITY AND SAYS, YOU KNOW WHAT? YEAH, IT'S A LOT OF MONEY.

BUT IF PEOPLE HERE SNICKER THAT NO BUSINESS OWNER IS EVER GOING TO DO THAT, WELL GUESS WHAT? IT PROBABLY COST ME ABOUT $1 MILLION A YEAR TO BE IN OFFICE.

SO I CAN GO TELL THIS GUY, LOOK HIM STRAIGHT IN THE EYE.

HE LIVES IN SAN MATEO.

AND I ASKED HIM THIS WEEKEND AND I SAID, HEY, HERE'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO. HE GOES, MAN, I'M ALL FOR THAT. WELL, WE'LL SEE IF HE PUTS HIS MONEY WHERE HIS MOUTH IS, HE CAN GO BACK AND WATCH THIS.

BECAUSE IF TRUE PATRIOTS AND TRUE AMERICANS AND TRUE PEOPLE THAT REALLY CARE ABOUT ELECTION INTEGRITY, I'M GOING TO GIVE HIM THAT.

AND OTHER BUSINESS OWNERS OR BUILDING OWNERS THE SHOT.

SO WHAT'S THAT NUMBER SUPERVISOR PLUMMER THAT YOU'LL GET ON BOARD WITH? BECAUSE I BELIEVE THIS IS A 4/5 VOTE.

IT IS A 4/5 VOTE. SO FOUR OF US HAVE TO AGREE ON THAT NUMBER.

IS IT 300,000. IS IT CAN WE GET TO 400.

I DON'T KNOW. SO I THINK IT WOULD BE TWO COMPONENTS.

SO ONE, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE IF YOU'RE SAYING THE TABULATORS AND THE CAMERAS, YOU'RE ALREADY KNOW, TAKE THE CAMERAS OUT BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY FOR SOME OF IT, EVEN IF YOU'RE RENTING IT OR LEASING IT FROM SOMEONE TEN GRAND. IN ANY CASE, YOU'RE CLOSE TO HALF A MILLION THERE, AND THEN YOU'RE.

AND THEN IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT GETTING THE LEASE ESSENTIALLY FOR FREE FOR FOUR MONTHS, THE OTHER THING THAT I WANT TO WANT TO MAKE SURE IS THAT, OKAY, SAY WE DO IT IN FOUR MONTHS AND IT WORKS THEN NOW ARE WE OBLIGATED AS THE COUNTY TO NOW HAVE AN $8 MILLION OR OR.

NO, THAT'S THAT'S PART OF THE MOTION BECAUSE HERE'S WHAT I WANT. I WANT TO PROVE IT OUT FOR FOUR MONTHS. I WANT TO PROVE IT OUT FOR FOUR MONTHS.

AND THEN AND THEN WE MAY NOT DO HIS HIS THING AGAIN FOR THREE YEARS UNTIL WE FIND THE BUILDING. BUT AT LEAST WE CAN SAY THAT'S THE WAY TO DO IT.

THAT'S THE WAY TO DO IT.

BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW. BECAUSE BECAUSE I PERSONALLY WILL NOT LEASE A BUILDING FOR THE CLERK FOR A WHOLE DEPARTMENT, EVER.

I WILL NEVER VOTE FOR THAT. I WOULD RATHER PURCHASE IT. I'D RATHER US OWN THAT ASSET.

I DO IT MY PERSONAL LIFE.

I DO IT MY COMPANY'S LIFE.

I DON'T DO THAT. I DON'T WANT TO DO THAT.

I MEAN, CAN YOU GET ON BOARD? BECAUSE THE TABULATORS, WE AGREE WE WANT THE TABULATORS.

WELL, I WANT THE TABULATORS, BUT I DON'T WANT TO SPEND 400,000 OUT OF THE JAIL FUND FOR IT. SO I'M AT 100 150, WHICH WOULD GET HIM SO SO POTENTIALLY FOR MORE. SO THE TABULATORS THOUGH, I MEAN, SO SO YOU'RE A I MEAN, THE TABULATORS ARE GOING TO IMPROVE REGARDLESS, RIGHT? THIS THIS ROV OR ANYONE IN THE FUTURE.

WELL, AND I WOULD YOU KNOW, THE WAY I WOULD THINK ABOUT IT IS LET'S POTENTIALLY ADD TABULATORS SLOWLY OVER TIME.

YOU KNOW, VERSUS WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A BIG HIT TO THE BUDGET BY SPENDING, YOU KNOW, $400,000. WELL, THAT $400,000 ISN'T COMING OUT LIKE TOMORROW FOR THE ACP. I MEAN, THERE ARE OR I WON'T SAY THE ACP THERE.

THE BECAUSE ONE THING I WANT TO DO TOO, IS I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE BREAKDOWN OF THAT DOLLAR IS OF WHAT THE PREVIOUS BOARD SET ASIDE, BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE THE JURISDICTION TO MOVE ANYTHING WE WANT, I STILL REALLY DO BELIEVE IN WHAT THE BOARD VOTED ON IN THE PAST.

AND WE UPHOLD THAT HERE.

AND I'LL FEEL THE SAME WAY WHEN I'M GONE.

SO I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY OF THAT.

WAS IT 34 MILLION, AARON, THAT WE HAVE 34.

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OKAY. AND HOW MUCH OF THAT WAS FROM 23 AND 24? DO YOU KNOW OFFHAND? I THOUGHT THAT WAS COMING OUT.

NO, I WANT TO SAY 23, 24 WAS THE YEAR WE DID THE 5,000,010 MILLION SWAP. 24. 25. WE DID JUST OVER 6 MILLION, I BELIEVE.

OKAY. OKAY. SO YEAH, I SO, SO IF YOU'RE, I MEAN, I THINK IF YOU THINK YOU CAN GET THE FACILITY FOR NEXT TO NOTHING, THEN WHY DON'T, WHY DON'T YOU GO TRY TO DO THAT? AND THEN IF YOU CAN COME BACK AND ASK FOR THE OTHER EXPENSES THAT WOULD BE NECESSARY.

WELL HERE'S NO NO NO NO, SEE I'M NOT.

MY TIME IS WORTH SOMETHING AND I'M NOT GOING TO GO DO THAT.

WELL, HEY, YOU CAN LAUGH IF YOU WANT, BUT IT'S THE TRUTH.

PLEASE STOP TALKING. YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M EVEN SAYING. PROBABLY. SO THE REALITY IS, I COULD GO.

I COULD GO NEGOTIATE THAT.

BUT IF YOU'RE NOT ON BOARD FOR THE TABULATORS, IT'S IRRELEVANT IF I. IF I JUST GOT A BUILDING ESSENTIALLY FOR MONTHS FOR A DOLLAR WITH NO STIPULATIONS. GOING AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THE TIME.

I UNDERSTAND THAT THE TABULATOR SPEED IT UP, BUT IT DOESN'T SEEM ESSENTIAL TO WHAT MR. CURTIS IS SAYING IN TERMS OF COUNTING VOTES IN AN HOUR OR LESS THAN TWO HOURS.

I WOULD LOVE THAT, BUT I'D LOVE A BUNCH OF OTHER THINGS THAT I'M NOT WILLING TO PAY FOR.

BUT IN TERMS OF THE ELECTION INTEGRITY PIECE OF IT, I DON'T SEE HOW THE TABULATORS ARE NECESSARY FOR THAT PIECE.

THEY'RE NECESSARY FOR SPEEDING IT UP. BUT FEEL FREE TO WATCH OUR CONVERSATION AGAIN, THIS IS JUST BETWEEN YOU AND I AND A FEW PEOPLE.

BUT WHEN YOU WERE SUPERVISOR ELECT, ONE OF THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT WAS YOU WANTED TO SEE WHAT WE COULD DO TO SPEED UP THE VOTE COUNTING PROCESS.

IS THAT CORRECT? YEAH. THAT'S CORRECT. THAT IS CORRECT. AND WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT'S WHY I'M APPEALING TO YOU ON THIS, IS BECAUSE THE TABULATORS ARE ACTUALLY GOING TO TAKE THIS FROM THREE WEEKS TO TWO HOURS.

AND, AND, AND THE DIFFERENCE WITH THE TWO HOURS VERSUS THE THREE WEEKS IN THE CHAIN OF CUSTODY, EVERYTHING ELSE THAT GOES INTO THAT BECAUSE AGAIN MOST ROVS PROBABLY IN THE STATE USE A LOT OF TABULATORS.

SO, SO, SO IF YOU'RE, IF YOU SAY IF YOU'RE COMMITTING HERE RIGHT NOW THAT IF I GET THAT BUILDING EXTREMELY CHEAP AND YOU'LL BE ON BOARD WITH THIS, I WON'T HOLD YOU TO THE VOTE TODAY.

BUT THEN I WANT TO KNOW THAT YOU'RE ACTUALLY WILLING TO SPEND 4 OR $500,000 ON TABULATORS AND THE RENTING OF THE CAMERAS, IF WE GET THAT, BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO GO DO THAT WORK. IF YOU'RE STILL NOT GOING TO VOTE FOR THE TABULATORS, BECAUSE THEN IT'S A, WE JUST HAVE A BIG BUILDING. WE CAN'T COUNT THEM BECAUSE WE CAN'T HAND COUNT. THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH A TABULATOR. WHAT I WOULD SAY IS THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT.

THE THAT'S YOUR FIRST WARNING TO ME.

AND WELL, FEEL FREE TO COMMENT ON THE TABULATORS, PLEASE. THE REASON YOU NEED ALL THE TABULATORS BECAUSE ALL OF THE BALLOTS ARE COUNTED ON ELECTION DAY AFTER THE ELECTION IS OVER.

THAT'S WHY YOU NEED ALL THE TABULATORS, BECAUSE YOU'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO BE RUNNING THROUGH 9000 BALLOTS IN TWO HOURS.

SO THAT'S WHY YOU NEED THAT MANY.

RIGHT. BUT IF YOU HAVE IF YOU WANT 16 TABULATORS AND IT'S GOING TO TAKE YOU TWO HOURS FOR 16 AND YOU HAVE FOUR TABULATORS NOW, SO IT TOOK YOU A QUARTER OF THE TIME.

SO THEN IT TAKES YOU EIGHT HOURS.

SO YOU COULD DO IT IN EIGHT HOURS OR IF IT'S 16 HOURS.

SO THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING IS THEORETICALLY COULD BE DONE IN EIGHT HOURS, BUT THEN YOU HAVE TO STOP THE COUNT AND YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO STOP THE COUNT.

SO I HAVE TO KEEP THEM THERE FOR EIGHT HOURS.

I MEAN, I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'VE DONE HISTORICALLY, RIGHT? AND IT TAKES 30 DAYS.

BUT YOU'VE BROKEN THE LAW A LOT.

YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO STOP THE COUNT ONCE YOU'RE DOING IT.

THAT'S WHY WHEN YOU DO THE THE MAIL IN BALLOTS, THEY DO THOSE EARLY. BUT WHEN YOU'RE DOING THE ELECTION BALLOTS, YOU'RE NOT. SO WHEN YOU PUT ALL YOUR BALLOTS AND YOU START THEM AT THE SAME TIME, YOU PRETTY MUCH HAVE TO FINISH THEM IN 2 OR 3 HOURS OR YOU DON'T COUNT THEM.

THAT WAY YOU CAN COUNT ALL THESE EARLY, BUT THAT LOSES THAT WHOLE CONTROL OVER IT.

NOW YOU'VE GOT THEM ALL SHOVED BACK INTO HERE IN ROOMS, STICKING THEM IN BUCKETS THAT NOBODY SECURES.

NO, BUT IF YOU HAVE THE CAMERAS, CAN'T YOU PUT A CAMERA ON THAT AND JUST HAVE THAT SECURE AS WELL, AND THEN START THE COUNT EARLIER. WELL THEY'RE GOING TO BE COUNTING OVER A PERIOD OF A WEEK.

THEY DON'T START THEM THAT DAY. SO OVER A WEEK YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GET YOUR OBSERVERS TO TRY AND COME IN AND WATCH THIS.

THE WHOLE POINT IS OBSERVING. AND IF YOU DO IT OVER A WEEK, YOU AREN'T GOING TO HAVE THE OBSERVERS DO THAT. SO. OKAY, WELL, I'M NOT CHANGING MY MIND ON THE TABULATORS.

I'M STICKING TO 100 TO 150,000 FOR ANY CONSIDERATION FOR IT.

IF THAT IN MY MIND, IF YOU COULD GET THE BUILDING FOR NEXT TO NOTHING AND YOU CAN GET YOUR CAMERAS SO THAT YOU CAN DO, WHICH I THINK IS THE CRUX OF THE SYSTEM YOU'RE PROPOSING, I WOULD BE WILLING TO CONSIDER THAT, BUT I'M NOT GOING TO APPROVE.

I'M NOT GOING TO VOTE FOR 400,000 FOR TABULATORS.

WHAT'S THAT? YEAH, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

WE CAN'T WE CAN'T LEASE TABULATORS, CAN WE OR CAN'T WE? I'VE NEVER TRIED, I DON'T KNOW.

I COULD ASK THEM. THAT'S A GREAT I DON'T KNOW.

SUPERVISOR HARMON. THAT'S A GREAT THING. SO ESPECIALLY SINCE WE'RE GOING TO BE RUNNING

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AND. SUPERVISOR. PLUMMER.

I RESPECT THAT. I MEAN THAT'S FINE WITH THE TABULATORS WHAT I.

BUT HE IS RIGHT. I MEAN, IF YOU LOOK AT ELECTION CODE, IT'S BEEN SO BLOWN UP AND BROKEN AND ILLEGAL.

AND THAT'S MY THING IS I WANT TO JUST I WANT TO STOP THE THE CLAIMS OR ACTUALLY WHAT I BELIEVE TO BECAUSE I WAS THERE, WE ALL PROBABLY WERE THERE LOOKING IN INTO THE BAT CAVE OR INTO THE DIFFERENT AREAS. AND THERE'S BALLOTS ON THE FLOOR, WHATEVER ELSE.

IT'S JUST, IT'S A MESS. I WANT TO GET RID OF THAT. AND I, AND I THINK IF WE CAN DO IT FAST, WE DO IT FAST AND WE DO IT ACCURATE AND WE FILM IT.

SO CAN YOU CHECK INTO THAT BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET FOUR VOTES. YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET FOUR VOTES AND YOU NEED FOUR. I CAN CHECK ON IT.

THE ISSUE IS THAT YOU ALSO HAVE TO RUN THROUGH THE BALLOTS AHEAD OF TIME.

IF YOU WANT TO CHECK EVERY BALLOT BEFORE IT ACTUALLY GOES OUT TO THE VOTER.

SO NOW WE'RE GOING TO RENT IT AND WE'RE GOING TO RUN AROUND 180,000 BALLOTS THROUGH THEIR MACHINE AND THEN GIVE IT BACK TO THEM.

I DON'T KNOW. THEY MAY TAKE THAT.

THEY MAY GO. YOU'RE CRAZY.

YEAH. WELL HOLD ON. SUPERVISOR.

KELSTROM. YEAH. SO YOU'RE SAYING IF WE ONLY TOOK, YOU KNOW, FOUR MORE TABULATORS, THEN IT WOULD TAKE EIGHT HOURS.

SO IN THE PAST ELECTIONS, YOU KNOW, THE POLLS CLOSE AT EIGHT.

YOU GET THE FIRST NUMBERS THAT ARE NEVER EVEN CLOSE AT EIGHT, 28, 15, EIGHT, TEN, WHATEVER.

AND THEN, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL 1030 AND YOU GET SOME MORE NUMBERS THAT ARE A LITTLE CLOSER, BUT THEY'RE STILL NOT ACCURATE. AND I THINK MY ELECTION AND KEVIN'S WAS 115 IN THE MORNING, WE FINALLY GOT SOME TRUER NUMBERS.

SO YOU'RE SAYING THOUGH, WE WOULDN'T BE GETTING THOSE THOSE UPDATES BECAUSE YOU WOULD START THEM ALL AT THE SAME TIME? AND IF WE ONLY HAD FOUR TABULATORS, THEN YOU'RE TALKING 4:00 IN THE MORNING.

WELL, YOU CAN ACTUALLY KICK THEM OUT QUICKER THAN THAT. YOU COULD, YOU COULD ACTUALLY STOP THE SYSTEM AND GET UPDATES ANYTIME YOU WANTED TO.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO RUN THEM ALL THE WAY THROUGH. OKAY. WELL, I THOUGHT YOU JUST SAID ONCE YOU STARTED, YOU HAD TO KEEP GOING. WELL, WE CAN'T TAKE A BREAK. WE CAN'T, LIKE, LEAVE THE ROOM AND GO TO SLEEP.

BUT WE CAN'T STOP THE FLOW.

OKAY, CHECK THE NUMBERS AND START THE FLOW.

YOU GUYS WOULD BE THERE AT SEVEN IN THE MORNING, AND THEN YOU'D BE FINALLY FINISHING IT UP AT 06:00.

08:00 THE NEXT MORNING.

YES. GOTCHA. AND YOU CAN'T DO THAT.

I AGREE. PEOPLE WILL FALL OVER AND DIE.

SUPERVISOR LONG. SUPERVISOR LONG.

THANK YOU. I THINK WE'RE GETTING CLOSE TO A VOTE HERE.

MY CLOSING COMMENTS WOULD BE.

YOU HAVE GOOD IDEAS. OKAY.

WE CAN'T AFFORD THIS. WE JUST CANNOT AFFORD IT.

AND IT COMES AT A COST OF OUR ALTERNATIVE CUSTODY PROGRAM.

EVERYTHING WE'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE WITH THE LAND ACQUISITION AND THE PROPERTY.

AND THAT IS A HUGE PRIORITY FOR OUR COMMUNITY, A HUGE PRIORITY FOR ME.

AND I DON'T WANT TO SEE THIS GET WATERED DOWN WHERE WE'RE, WE'RE THROWING MONEY AT SOMETHING THAT THERE'S JUST TOO MANY UNANSWERED QUESTIONS FOR ME TO FEEL COMFORTABLE GOING FORWARD WITH THIS.

AND I, I JUST IMPLORE THIS BOARD TO CONSIDER WHAT IS THE MOST PRESSING NEED FOR OUR COMMUNITY. AND CAN WE AFFORD TO SPEND $8 MILLION? I KNOW THERE'S COMMENT THAT THAT'S INFLATED.

WE CAN'T. AND THE BUILDING HAS TO BE DEALT WITH FIRST.

AND WHEN WE'RE THINKING ABOUT PARTIAL PART TIME LEASES, THREE MONTH LEASES, LET'S GIVE IT A TRIAL.

THAT'S KIND OF JUMPING IN WITH BOTH FEET INTO THE SWIMMING POOL.

AND WE'RE, WE'RE THAT THAT IS HUGELY PROBLEMATIC AND EXPENSIVE.

FOCUS ON WHAT OUR COMMUNITY KEEPS TELLING US.

WE NEED A JAIL. WE NEED AN EXPANDED ALTERNATIVE CUSTODY PROGRAM, PERIOD. WE'VE GOT THE MONEY THAT HAS BEEN SET ASIDE FOR THAT PURPOSE, AND I DON'T WANT TO DILUTE ANY OF THAT MONEY OUT.

I WANT TO SUPPORT THAT MISSION BECAUSE OUR CITIZENS DESERVE ACCOUNTABILITY FOR CRIMINAL ACTIVITY. AND THAT'S THAT'S WHERE I FEEL YOU HAVE A MOTION OR NO MOTION.

STEPHANIE BLANKENSHIP.

THANK YOU. CHAIR, I JUST WANTED TO CONFIRM RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE TABLE ONLY IF THE MAKER OF THE MOTION WAS WILLING TO AMEND IT.

SO I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY IF SUPERVISOR KELSTROM WAS WILLING TO AMEND AND ADD TO HIS MOTION THE PROCUREMENT TO RENT OR LEASE.

I'M GOING TO PULL I'M GOING TO I'M GOING TO PULL MY SECOND. OKAY. YEAH.

BECAUSE IT DOESN'T THERE'S THERE'S NO.

AND I THINK AT THIS POINT, THERE'S NO EVEN NEED NEED FOR A VOTE.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY OTHER CLOSING COMMENTS BEFORE I MAKE A CLOSING COMMENT? I THINK WHAT WE SEE HERE AND I JUST AND I THINK I THINK IT'S HEALTHY.

I MEAN, WE DEFINITELY HAVE DIFFERENT DISCUSSIONS.

I THINK THIS IS BECAUSE THE COST WHAT PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND IS THE AMOUNT OF TIME THIS COMMUNITY HAS TAKEN ON ELECTIONS IS NOT GOING AWAY.

THE COST IS GOING TO CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD.

AND I THINK IT'S I THINK IT'S A MISS FOR US NOT TO PUT OUR THINKING CAPS ON AND DO A BETTER JOB OF FIGURING OUT WHAT SOME OF THESE HARD COSTS ARE.

I THINK IT'S NEARSIGHTED AND IT IS WHAT IT IS.

SO, MR. CURTIS, THERE IS NO VOTE TAKEN TODAY.

SUPERVISOR KELSTROM MADE A MOTION. I'VE PULLED MY SECOND.

JUST SO YOU KNOW, I APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION, I.

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I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO WHATEVER IF YOU WANT TO.

I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU CAN BRING SOMETHING BACK OR WHAT THE NEXT STEPS WOULD BE. I WANT TO SEE YOUR CAMERA AND HOW YOU CAN.

I MEAN, IT'S, I'M, YEAH, I'M JUST, I'M A LITTLE BIT SURPRISED THAT THAT'S. ANYWAY. IT IS.

THANK YOU. NO. IT'S GOOD.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. SO IS THERE MISS BLANKENSHIP? IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE ON THE CALENDAR? NO, CHAIR. THAT'S IT. MR. RICKERT, NOTHING ADDITIONAL.

ALL RIGHT, WITH THAT, HAVE A GOOD NIGHT.

THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.