[00:00:01] NOTICE. GOOD MORNING. IT IS 9 A.M. [Shasta County Board of Supervisors Budget Hearings FY 25-26 on June 12, 2025.] AND WE ARE BACK FROM RECESS. STARTING OFF THIS MORNING WITH OUR THIRD DAY OF BUDGET HEARINGS, WE'LL START AND HEAR FROM CHIEF O'HARA. CAL FIRE SHASTA COUNTY SHASTA. TRINITY FIRE. COME ON UP, SIR. MORNING, CHAIR. MY NAME IS SEAN O'HARA. I AM THE COUNTY FIRE CHIEF. ALSO THE SHASTA TRINITY UNIT. THANK YOU, EVERYBODY, FOR ALLOWING US TO DO OUR PRESENTATION TODAY. MAKE SURE I'M NOT GOING TO MESS THIS UP TOO BAD. IF YOU DO, SHERIFF, I'LL POINT IT OUT. YEAH. NO, HE. HE'S DONE A GREAT JOB SO FAR. ALL RIGHT. SO OUR MISSION HASN'T CHANGED OVER SEVERAL YEARS, AS EVERYBODY KNOWS. OUR MISSION IS PRETTY SIMPLE. IT'S TO PROTECT LIFE AND PROPERTY AND ENVIRONMENT, UTILIZING TRAINED AND EQUIPPED PERSONNEL. THE MISSION INCLUDES STRUCTURAL WILDLAND FIRE CONTROL. WE'RE ALL RISK AGENCY. NO DIFFERENT THAN THE CITY OF REDDING OR ANY OTHER AGENCY UP AND DOWN THE STATE. THE PURPOSE OF THE SHASTA COUNTY FIRE DEPARTMENT IS TO PROVIDE EMERGENCY SERVICES TO THE COMMUNITIES OF SHASTA COUNTY AND PROVIDE MUTUAL AID TO ALL ALLIED AGENCIES FOR THE COMMON GOOD OF THE CITIZENS OF SHASTA COUNTY. ONE OF THE ONE OF OUR SLIDES HIGHLIGHTS THE THE COUNTY FUNDED POSITIONS. THERE'S ZERO CHANGE TO THE COUNTY FUNDED POSITIONS. ONE PART THAT I AM RUNNING INTO A LITTLE BIT OF DIFFICULTY ABOUT IS OUR FIRE INSPECTOR RECRUITMENT. AS MOST OF YOU GUYS KNOW, WE'VE CONTINUED TO RECRUIT FOR THIS POSITION, BUT SO FAR ARE FILLING THAT POSITION HAS BEEN CHALLENGING. THIS YEAR WE'VE ADDED A, A PRETTY GOOD AMOUNT OF STAFF TO OUR CAL FIRE CONTRACT. WHAT WE DID THIS YEAR IS WENT TO TRADITIONAL, WHAT TRADITIONAL STAFFING MEANS IS THAT IT'S A CAPTAIN, ENGINEER, AND A FIREFIGHTER. IT'S NO DIFFERENT THAN WHAT, YOU KNOW, ANY OTHER MUNICIPALITY, FIRE STATIONS OR FIRE DEPARTMENTS DO. SO THIS YEAR WE ADDED TWO FIRE CAPTAINS. WE REDUCED SIX ENGINEERS AND ADDED SIX FIREFIGHTER TWOS. THE REASON WHY I SAY SIX FIREFIGHTER TWOS IS BECAUSE IT'S DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT THAN OUR SEASONAL FORCE, WHICH IS A FIREFIGHTER ONE. THE FIREFIGHTER TWOS ARE A PERMANENT CLASSIFICATION AS AN ENTRY LEVEL FIREFIGHTER. SO WHAT THAT DOES IS ACTUALLY REDUCE THE COST. INSTEAD OF KEEPING OUR SIX ENGINEERS, IT REDUCES THE COST OF THE CONTRACT. PROGRAM CHANGES FOR THE UPCOMING YEAR. IS OUR DEFENSIBLE SPACE PROGRAM, FUNDED FOR A LIMITED TIME THROUGH A GRANT THAT WE PUT IN FOR. I'LL HIGHLIGHT HOW MUCH THAT'S GOING TO BE, AND THEN WHAT THAT COULD BE LATER ON, WORKING WITH COOPERATORS TO CHANGE THE MISDEMEANORS TO INFRACTIONS FOR THE COUNTY ORDINANCE. THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD WORK THAT'S BEING DONE OUT THERE THROUGH OUR CITIZENS TRYING TO DO FUELS REDUCTION AND BURNING AND ALL THE OTHER STUFF OUT THERE. BUT THE WAY THAT THE ORDINANCE IS RIGHT NOW, TECHNICALLY, IF THEY DO SOMETHING THAT IS NOT SAFE, IT WOULD END UP BEING A MISDEMEANOR. WHAT WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO DO IS, IS GET THAT INTO AN INFRACTION OR A FINE OR SOMETHING TO THAT NATURE. BECAUSE IT PUTS A BURDEN ON ALL MY OTHER COOPERATORS IN THIS ROOM, RIGHT? SO WE KNOW THE COURTS ARE ALREADY BACKED UP AND THE LAST THING WE WANT TO DO IS ACTUALLY HIT SOMEBODY WITH A MISDEMEANOR BECAUSE THEY'RE DOING THE RIGHT THING. THINGS DO HAPPEN, STUFF HAPPENS, AND BAD LUCK SOMETIMES HITS THOSE PEOPLE THAT ARE DOING THE RIGHT THING. SO WE SAW THAT AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO TO HELP OUT THE CITIZENS ON JUST MAKING IT INFRACTION INSTEAD OF A MISDEMEANOR. ACCOMPLISHMENTS OVER THE LAST YEAR LAST YEAR, AS EVERYBODY KNOWS, WE HAD TO SPEND A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY TO BRING OUR FIREFIGHTING STRUCTURAL TURNOUTS UP TO THE NFPA 1851, AS EVERYBODY PROBABLY SAW ON THE NEWS EARLIER THIS YEAR, ONE OF OUR ONE NOT ONE OF OUR STATIONS, BUT ONE OF OUR COOPERATORS, HAD TO SHUT DOWN THEIR FIRE STATION BECAUSE THEY WEREN'T MEETING THIS MISSION. FORTUNATE FOR US, WE WERE OUT IN FRONT OF IT, AND WE WERE ABLE TO GET A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF STRUCTURAL TURNOUTS AND ALSO RESTRUCTURING THE EXISTING RESERVE FIREFIGHTER PROGRAM TO INCREASE PARTICIPATION. OUR RESERVE PROGRAM IS UP THERE IN LAKEHEAD. OBVIOUSLY, THAT IS A VERY SIGNIFICANT AREA WITH FIRE HISTORY. AND MOST PEOPLE PROBABLY KNOW THIS IN SHASTA COUNTY WHEN IT WHEN IT SNOWS, THAT AREA GETS SHUT OFF. RIGHT? SO THEY ARE ALL VOLUNTEER BASED ORGANIZATION UP THERE, BUT THEY ARE PAID. SO WHAT HAPPENS IS THEY CAN EITHER DO A 12 OR A 24 HOUR SHIFT UP THERE, AND THEY GET PAID FOR THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT THEY'RE THERE. THEY ARE ONE OF THE HIGHEST PAID RESERVES IN THE STATE. AND THAT ALLOWS US TO HAVE MORE PARTICIPATION THAN OVER THE LAST COUPLE YEARS. AS EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT WE ASKED FOR A STANDARD OF COVERAGE AND MASTER PLAN FOR SHASTA COUNTY FIRE DEPARTMENT, WHICH WILL HELP US PLAN FOR THE NEXT 5 TO 10 YEARS, DEPENDING ON WHICH PORTION OF THAT IS GOING TO BE IMPLEMENTED. [00:05:06] WE ALSO IMPLEMENTED A BIANNUAL, NOT BIANNUAL, BUT BIANNUAL MINIMUM VOLUNTEER PHYSICAL EVALUATION. WHAT THAT DOES IS IT TAKES OUR OUR CURRENT VOLUNTEERS AND HAS THEM GO EVERY TWO YEARS TO GET A PHYSICAL EVALUATION. WE HAVE NOT DONE THAT PREVIOUSLY, BUT BECAUSE THE LAST TIME THEY WERE DONE, THEY HAD A PHYSICAL EVALUATION WAS WHEN THEY FIRST CAME ON. AND AS MOST OF YOU GUYS KNOW, OUR OUR GROUP IS A IS A GROUP THAT STARTED A LONG TIME AGO. SO SOME OF THOSE FOLKS, THE LAST TIME THEY HAD A PHYSICAL DONE IN ORDER TO BECOME A VOLUNTEER WAS ABOUT 50 YEARS AGO OR 40 YEARS AGO OR 30 YEARS AGO. SOME OF THOSE GUYS AND GALS HAVE BEEN VOLUNTEERS LONGER THAN I'VE BEEN ALIVE. SO WE DECIDED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DID A PHYSICAL EVALUATION TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WEREN'T MISSING ANYTHING AND PROTECTING THE COUNTY AS A WHOLE FOR LIABILITY. AND THEN LASTLY, CONTRACT SAVINGS OF ROUGHLY $1.7 MILLION FROM THE CAL FIRE CONTRACT. THE REASON WHY IT'S SO MUCH THIS YEAR IS BECAUSE OF A SIGNIFICANT FIRE HAPPENED IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA, WHICH ALLOWED CAL FIRE TO BRING BACK A LARGE MAJORITY OF OUR WORKFORCE ON THE PERMANENT SIDE, WHICH THEN SHUT OFF THE THE AMADOR CONTRACT FOR SHASTA COUNTY, WHICH THEN ALLOWED US TO HAVE A CONTRACT SAVINGS OF $1 MILLION JUST IN THAT IN THAT SECTION, ROUGHLY ABOUT 700 000 OF THAT IS ALSO CONTRACT SAVINGS EITHER UTILIZING DIFFERENT OPPORTUNITIES FOR STAFFING OR REDUCED AMOUNT OF OVERTIME. ALL RIGHT. GOALS FOR OUR NEXT 25. 26. CONTINUE RESTRUCTURING THE FLEET FOR EFFICIENCIES. SO, AS I'VE EXPLAINED TO ALMOST EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU, WE HAVE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF RESOURCES OUT THERE. AND WITH THE DWINDLING AMOUNT OF VOLUNTEERS, WE DON'T NEED THAT MANY OF PIECES OF EQUIPMENT. BUT A LOT OF OUR EQUIPMENT IS 20, 30 YEARS OLD. SO A LOT OF THAT, WE CAN'T EVEN GET PARTS TO GET FIXED. SO WHAT WE'RE DOING IS TRYING TO RESTRUCTURE IT INTO A MECHANISM WHERE WE DON'T NECESSARILY NEED THOSE MILLION DOLLAR PIECES OF EQUIPMENT, EVERY ONE OF OUR VOLUNTEER STATIONS. RIGHT? SO WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO MINIMIZE THE IMPACT TO THE BUDGET BY UTILIZING DIFFERENT TYPES OF EQUIPMENT, SUCH AS A WATER TENDER OR A TYPE SIX OR JUST SOMETHING TO THAT NATURE. INSTEAD OF GETTING ONE PIECE OF EQUIPMENT FOR, YOU KNOW, $1 MILLION TRYING TO UTILIZE THE BEST EQUIPMENT THAT WE HAVE OUT THERE, AND THEN STRATEGICALLY PLACING THE MORE EXPENSIVE EQUIPMENT THAT'S OUT THERE, CONTINUING TO WORK TO MEET THE NFPA 1851. WE HAD A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TURNOUTS ORDERED LAST YEAR THAT WE GOT. BUT AS EVERYBODY HAD TO GO THROUGH THAT ORDERING PROCESS. AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, THERE'S ONLY SO MANY VENDORS THAT MAKE TURNOUTS. SO THEY ARE ON BACKORDER. SO WE'LL CONTINUE TO DO THAT. UPDATING THE TITLE OF OUR COUNTY VOLUNTEERS TO A PAID CALL FIREFIGHTER, WHICH MORE ACCURATELY REPRESENTS THE ROLE. NONE OF OUR VOLUNTEERS ARE VOLUNTEERS IN AIR QUOTES, RIGHT? THE REASON WHY I SAY THAT IS EVERY SINGLE TIME THEY DO ANYTHING, THEY GET PAID. SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S A REPRESENTATION OF THE ACCURATE ROLE OF HOW OUR VOLUNTEERS ARE. PLUS, I'M HOPING THAT IT ACTUALLY ALLOWS OUR YOUNGER GENERATION THAT'S COMING THAT DON'T TEND TO WANT TO VOLUNTEER, THAT THEY SEE THAT THEY'RE NOT JUST VOLUNTEERING FOR THE COMMUNITY, BUT THEY'RE ALSO GETTING PAID AS A FIRE DEPARTMENT AND THEN FINALIZE THE STANDARDS OF COVERED AND MASTER PLAN FOR THE COUNTY FIRE DEPARTMENT. OBVIOUSLY, WE WE HIT IT RIGHT AT THE VERY END OF LAST YEAR. SO IT'S GOING TO TRANSITION OVER INTO THIS YEAR AND MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S ALL COMPLETED. AND THEN FINALLY FINALIZE THE, THE DEFENSIBLE SPACE ORDINANCE. THANK YOU TO THE COUNTY COUNCIL WITH ALL THE, THE WORK ON GETTING THAT TO THE VERY END. WE THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO GET IT BEFORE THE END OF FISCAL YEAR, BUT DUE TO ALL THE VERY MINUTE DETAILS, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S AIRTIGHT FOR THE FUTURE. ALL RIGHT. BUDGETS. SO AS EVERYBODY KNOWS, FIRE DEPARTMENTS ARE NOT CHEAP. THE GENERAL FUND CONTRIBUTION OVERALL OF ALL FUND BALANCE IS 10,475,000. IS ALSO IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THERE IS NOT A DIRECT CONTRIBUTION FROM THE COUNTY'S GENERAL FUND TO SUPPORT THE CSA, NUMBER ONE. HOWEVER, THE COUNTY DOES PLAY A SIGNIFICANT ROLE IN FUNDING ESSENTIAL FIRE PROTECTION SERVICES THROUGH ITS FINANCIAL COMMITMENT TO THE CAL FIRE CONTRACT. TWO COMPLETELY SEPARATE THINGS UNDERNEATH ONE ORGANIZATION. SPECIFICALLY, THE COUNTY ASSUMES RESPONSIBILITY FOR SIX BASICALLY $6.9 MILLION, WHICH IS ABOUT 60% OF THE CAL FIRE CONTRACT. CAL FIRE CONTRACT IS JUST ROUGHLY UNDER $11.4 MILLION. [00:10:05] THE REMAINING 40% OF THE CONTRACT IS FUNDED THROUGH ALTERNATIVE SOURCES, SUCH AS OUR COUNTY FIRE FUND BALANCE AND FINANCIAL RESOURCES THROUGH THE SETTLEMENT. THE FUND BALANCE IS IS PRIMARILY DONE THROUGH EITHER CONTRACT SAVINGS OR MAINLY THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WE BRING IN ANNUALLY THROUGH THE COUNTY, RENTING THE EQUIPMENT TO CAL FIRE. SO LAST YEAR WE BROUGHT IN JUST ABOUT $1 MILLION. AND SO THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE OVER THE YEARS. IT'S UP AND DOWN, RIGHT? SO THE BUSIER FIRE SEASONS, THE MORE MONEY THE COUNTY MAKES BECAUSE OF RENTING THE EQUIPMENT, WHICH IS SOMETIMES GOOD AND SOMETIMES BAD, AS LONG AS THE FIRES ARE SOMEWHERE ELSE, IT'S GOOD FOR THE COUNTY, RIGHT? BECAUSE I'M ALLOWED TO SEND OUT MY EQUIPMENT. BUT THE PROBLEM IS, IS IF WE HAVE A SIGNIFICANT FIRE HERE, THAT'S ALSO BAD FOR THE COMMUNITY. SO IT'S A DOUBLE EDGED SWORD. ALL RIGHT. SO EVERYBODY'S WONDERING WHY OUR OUR AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WE'VE ASKED FOR IS SO MUCH THIS YEAR. RIGHT? SO THE MAIN PORTION OF IT IS THE DELAY IN EQUIPMENT PROCURED. BASICALLY WHAT ENDED UP HAPPENING OVER SO MANY YEARS OF DELAYS, IT HAS A BACKUP OF ENGINES BEING MADE. SO WE HAVE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF, OF ENGINES THAT ARE OUT THERE ROUGHLY ABOUT $3.5 MILLION. THAT IS EITHER THAT IS GOING TO BE DEFERRED INTO THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS BECAUSE WE DID NOT ACCEPT THAT EQUIPMENT. WE CAN'T PAY FOR IT. SO IT'S A ROLLOVER. JULIA HATES THAT THAT TERM. BUT THAT'S THE TERM I USE. IT'S ROLLING OVER TO THE NEXT YEAR. STAFFING ALLOCATIONS. BASICALLY WHAT IT PAYS FOR IS ABOUT ROUGHLY $2 MILLION. AND THANK YOU TO THE D A AND, AND EVERYBODY THAT PUT IN THAT HARD WORK IN ORDER TO GET THAT ZOG SETTLEMENT. IT ALLOWS FOR ONE BATTALION CHIEF, TWO CAPTAINS, AND FOUR ENGINEERS TO BE FUNDED FOR APPROXIMATELY THREE TO 4 TO 5 YEARS, DEPENDING ON WHO GETS IN THERE AND THE SENIORITY AND ALL THE OTHER STUFF THAT COMES ALONG WITH IT. ALLOCATION OF THE COUNTY FUND BALANCE. APPROXIMATELY $2.5 MILLION OF THE COUNTY FUND BALANCE HAS BEEN DESIGNATED TO SUPPORT THE CAL FIRE CONTRACT. SO THE COUNTY FIRE DEPARTMENT IS PAYING FOR ITS OWN CONTRACT. IN A WAY, THE REASON WHY I BRING THAT UP IS THE FUND BALANCE COULD BE COMPLETELY DEPLETED AFTER NEXT YEAR. 2627 SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, IT COULD END UP BEING EITHER WE'LL HAVE TO REDUCE THE CONTRACT WHICH WILL WHICH WILL HURT THE SETTLEMENT THE WAY THAT THAT'S SITUATED, OR THE COUNTY WILL HAVE TO COME UP WITH SOME OTHER MONIES IN THE FUTURE EFFORT TO REDUCE THE GENERAL FUND IMPACT IN THE FISCAL YEAR 24, 25 AND 2526. BASICALLY WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING IS DOING THOUGHTFUL SPENDING EXPENDITURES, REDUCING THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WE TRY TO SPEND FIGURING OUT DIFFERENT WAYS THAT WE CAN BUY EQUIPMENT THAT IS CHEAPER. BUT WHEN IT COMES TO FIRE DEPARTMENTS AND YOU PUT SOMETHING RED IN A, IN A FIRE SYMBOL ON IT, NOTHING'S CHEAP. SO REVIEWING THE CAL FIRE CONTRACT AND SAVING AS MUCH MONEY AS I POSSIBLY CAN BY UTILIZING STAFF REQUIREMENTS SOMETIMES HELPS AND SOMETIMES IT DOESN'T. SO IT ALL DEPENDS ON WHO GETS IN THERE. SO AND THEN GRANT FUNDS. AS WE STARTED WRITING ALL THESE DOWN WE WERE PRETTY SURPRISED ON THE AMOUNT OF GRANTS THAT WE APPLIED FOR, ESPECIALLY THE. FOR THIS 2526 YEAR. SO WE ARE IN THE CURRENT STATE OF APPLYING FOR A SAFER GRANT FOR ABOUT $6 MILLION TO SPEND OVER THE NEXT THREE YEARS. I WOULD BE VERY SURPRISED IF WE DO GET THAT BECAUSE OF IT BEING A FEDERALLY ASSISTED GRANT AND THE WAY THE PARAMETERS ARE. OBVIOUSLY, THE HOMELAND SECURITY GRANT WE PUT IN FOR FOR $50,000 FOR MOBILE RADIOS. THE A F GRANT IS JUST UNDER HALF $1 MILLION. VOLUNTEER FIREFIGHTER GRANT IS JUST OVER ABOUT $35,000. AND THEN ONE THING THAT WE'RE SUPER HAPPY ABOUT IS JUST UNDER $1 MILLION TO IMPLEMENT A HAZARD MITIGATION FOR THE VEGETATION MANAGEMENT ORDINANCE THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS. WHEN THAT GOES THROUGH WHAT IT WILL ALLOW US TO DO IS WE WILL BE BUYING A PIECE OF EQUIPMENT TO HELP GET RID OF ALL THE HAZARDOUS, VEGETATION THAT THAT'S OUT THERE, ALONG WITH A PROGRAM THAT IS GOING TO HIGHLIGHT WHAT OUR DEFENSIBLE SPACE ORDINANCE IS GOING TO BE. AND THEN ALSO, FOR THOSE THAT ARE THE UNDERPRIVILEGED, HAVING AN ABILITY TO HOPEFULLY HELP THEM OUT AND GET THAT TAKEN CARE OF. GRANTS AWARDED LAST YEAR OR YEAH, LAST YEAR THAT WILL BE EXPENDED THIS YEAR IS GETTING THE BOAT REPLACEMENT, AS EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT OWNS A BOAT. BOAT STANDS FOR BREAK OUT ANOTHER THOUSAND BECAUSE BOATS ARE NOT, [00:15:03] NOT CHEAP. AND ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU KEEP THEM STORED IN SHASTA LAKE THEY TEND TO MAKE A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON HOW LONG THEY LAST. AND THEN OBVIOUSLY THE MOBILE VEHICLE RADIOS THOSE ARE ALWAYS MORE EXPENSIVE THAN THE YEAR PREVIOUS. SO THOSE WILL PROBABLY GET US ABOUT 15 RADIOS. THAT PORTION OF THE OF OUR BUSINESS IS NOT CHEAP. IT SEEMS TO KEEP GOING UP. WELL, I WAS GOING TO TELL TRACY. SORRY, BUT WE'LL KEEP IT ON COUNTY FIRE. SO ANY QUESTIONS? WELL, NO ONE'S IN QUEUE YET. I'LL JUST TELL YOU. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION. AND I KNOW THAT AS WE'VE DISCUSSED THIS EVERY YEAR WITH THE BUDGET ABOUT HOW EXPENSIVE FIRE DEPARTMENTS ARE, I KNOW IT'S BROUGHT UP EVERY YEAR ABOUT THIS TIME PEOPLE WILL ASK, HAVE WE EVER CONSIDERED DOING OUR OWN FIRE DEPARTMENT? AND I SAID, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. LET'S GET THE YANKEES TO PLAY HERE AND EVERYTHING ELSE, BECAUSE IT'S TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO BE ABLE TO DO WHAT WE'RE GETTING FROM CAL FIRE. SO YEAH, THANK YOU, SUPERVISOR LONG. THANK YOU, CHAIR CRYE. YOU AND I HAD TALKED ON THAT TOPIC PREVIOUSLY, THE YANKEES YEAH, THEY'RE COMING NEXT YEAR. AND AS I RECALL, YOUR BUDGET ALLOCATIONS WERE ABOUT EIGHT SOMETHING MILLION. AND. BUT YOU LEVERAGE IT INTO ABOUT $40 MILLION WORTH OF SERVICE THROUGH THE STATE CONTRACT WITH WITH THE COUNTY CONTRACT. SO IT'S A TREMENDOUS LEVERAGING OF SERVICES. MY QUESTION FOR YOU WAS CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT PROP 47 AND THE FUNDS THAT ARE GOING TO BE COMING FORWARD? YOU AND I'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS AND WHAT THAT THAT COULD MEAN FOR US IF WE GET APPLICATIONS IN PROP FOR PROP FOUR. YEAH. SO THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT'S OUT THERE FOR PROP FOUR. CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW, OUR, OUR CAL FIRE SIDE THE LEGAL SIDE OF IT IS LOOKING INTO HOW THOSE ARE GOING TO BE EXPANDED. I KNOW THAT YOU AND I JUST TALKED ABOUT IT. THERE COULD BE A APPLICATION. IT SOUNDS LIKE THE DEADLINE IS RIGHT AROUND AUGUST 4TH. WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT IT. AND THEN IF WE, IF WE'RE ABLE TO APPLY FOR THEM, WE'LL APPLY FOR THEM AS MUCH AS WHAT WE CAN. I HAVE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF INFORMATION, ESPECIALLY AT OUR REGION LEVEL, THAT CAN HELP US NAVIGATE THOSE WATERS ON WHAT WE'RE ALLOWED TO PUT IN FOR AND WHAT WE'RE NOT. CAL FIRE CAN'T PUT IN FOR ITS OWN GRANTS, BUT THE COUNTY FIRE CAN. SO UTILIZING THE FANTASTIC STAFF THAT WE HAVE IN SHASTA COUNTY, IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT WE UTILIZE BOTH OUR SIDE AND YOUR SIDE AS A GROUP TO BETTER SUIT THE ENTIRE GROUP OF CITIZENS IN SHASTA COUNTY. SO. WELL, I APPRECIATE THAT. AND ANYTHING WE CAN DO OR I CAN DO PERSONALLY TO HELP WITH THAT APPLICATION PROCESS, I'M VERY INTERESTED IN BECAUSE IT'S JUST GOING TO BE THERE'S A LOT OF MONEY AND GRANT MONEY AVAILABLE UNDER PROP FOUR. YEAH. AND SO IT'S, IT'D BE GREAT. AND I KNOW IT'S A TIGHT TURNAROUND FOR THE DEADLINE IS WHAT I'VE HEARD. AUGUST. SO IT'D BE GREAT IF WE CAN WORK TOGETHER TO GET THAT APPLIED FOR AND DONE IF WE CAN GET THOSE FUNDS FOR US. YEAH. YOU TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE VMP VEGETATION MANAGEMENT PROGRAM. CAN YOU UPDATE A LITTLE BIT AS TO THE STATUS OF THAT AND WHAT PROJECTS YOU'RE WORKING ON WITH THAT? YEAH. FORTUNATE FOR SHASTA COUNTY CAL FIRE ON OUR SIDE IS ONE OF THE LEADING AGENCIES ON, ON VEGETATION MANAGEMENT PROGRAMS. AND SO WHAT THAT, THAT'S WHAT VMP STAND FOR. I DON'T KNOW IF EVERYBODY SAW THE SMOKE OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF DAYS, BUT WE BURNED OFF ROUGHLY ABOUT 600 ACRES YESTERDAY. WE'LL ALSO BE BURNING OFF ABOUT 500 MORE TODAY. THE PREVIOUS LAST WEEK, WE BURNED ANOTHER ABOUT 150 TO 200 ACRES. AND SO WE'VE BEEN VERY PROACTIVE IN SHASTA COUNTY AND TRINITY COUNTY. OVERALL FOR THE OVERALL THREE YEARS. MY UNIT HAS BEEN ONE OF THE LEADING GROUP WHICH I'M VERY PROUD OF. TROY AND HIS TEAM, ONE OF MY DIVISION CHIEFS THEY DO A FANTASTIC JOB. THE LANDOWNERS IN THIS COUNTY ARE VERY PROACTIVE BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF LAND THAT WE CAN UTILIZE. AND SO WHERE THAT BENEFITS SHASTA COUNTY IS THAT IT'S A VERY ROBUST PROGRAM FOR THE CAL FIRE SIDE, WHICH YOU GUYS HAVE A CONTRACT ON AND ALLOWS US TO, TO GET A LOT OF WORK DONE UTILIZING THE LARGEST FIRE DEPARTMENT IN THE NATION. SO WITH THAT, WE HAVE A LOT OF EXPERTISE. WE DO TAKE A LOT OF HEAT DURING THE SUMMERTIME, BECAUSE THAT'S WHEN THE TIME IS RIGHT FOR A LOT OF THOSE VEGETATION'S TO BE BURNED OFF. AND STUFF DOES HAPPEN. I CAN'T SAY THAT SOME EXTRA ACRES HAVE NOT HAPPENED IN THIS COUNTY EVERY NOW AND AGAIN, BUT WHAT THE WAY THAT PEOPLE HAVE THAT INTERPRETATION IS THAT WE HAVE CONTROL LINES [00:20:03] AND THEN WE HAVE SECONDARY CONTROL LINES, AND THEN WE HAVE A WHOLE NOTHER BACKUP PLAN FOR THOSE CONTROL LINES. SO FOR THE MOST PART, MOST OF THOSE FIRES HAVE ALWAYS STAYED WITHIN OUR SECONDARY CONTROL LINE AREAS OR OUR PRIMARIES. AND SO WHEN WE UTILIZE OUR AIRCRAFT TO THE BEST OF OUR ABILITY. IT'S NOT BECAUSE IT'S OUT OF CONTROL. IF IT'S OUT OF CONTROL, EVERYBODY WILL KNOW. AND I WILL BE THE FIRST PERSON TO GET UP IN FRONT OF MEDIA AND SAY, YES, WE LIT THIS FIRE AND IT GOT OUT OF OUR CONTROL. BUT KNOCK ON WOOD, IT HAS NOT HAPPENED YET AND I DON'T PLAN ON THAT HAPPENING ON MY WATCH. BUT FORTUNATE FOR US IS THAT I HAVE A GREAT FORCE THAT DOES A LOT OF VEGETATION MANAGEMENT, BOTH MECHANICAL THROUGH FIRE AND A LOT OF CHIPPING. I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT'S BEING DONE ON DIRT ROAD. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS. BASICALLY FROM DIRT TO 44 OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS IS GOING TO BE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT LOOKING. WE UTILIZED PUBLIC WORKS AND THEIR STAFF TO ALLOW US TO GET THAT, THAT PORTION OF WHAT THE COUNTY OWNS. AND THEN WE HAD A GRANT THAT WE USED WESTERN SHASTA RCD TO GET THE HOMEOWNERS ON BOARD, AND WE CAN GO FROM DIRT ALL THE WAY UP TO 44 GETTING BACK AS MUCH VEGETATION THERE FOR INGRESS AND EGRESS. IF THERE IS A FIRE. THANK YOU. AND YOU'RE OBVIOUSLY AWARE OF THE THE FEMA MONEY THAT WAS THE CAR FOOTPRINT FIRE MONEY THAT'S GOING TO BE COMING TO OUR COUNTY. HOPEFULLY THIS FALL. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU'LL BE INTEGRATING IN WITH THE FEDERAL GRANT MONEY THROUGH MCCONNELL AND, AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF? WILL YOU BE PART OF THAT PROCESS? BECAUSE I THINK ABOUT FOUR AND A HALF TO 5 MILLION IS GOING TO BE COMING OUT TO WEST SIDE DISTRICT TWO OF THE 29 MILLION. SO JUST CURIOUS IF YOU'RE GOING TO IF YOU'RE GOING TO BE A PLAYER IN THAT. WE'RE USUALLY A LARGE PLAYER ON, ON A LOT OF WAYS WHEN IT COMES TO VEGETATION MANAGEMENT. I CANNOT SAY 100% THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE DOING THE WORK, BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT BEHIND THE SCENES THAT WE'VE ALREADY DONE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF WORK IN REGARDS TO THAT THE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT OTHER CONTRACTORS CAN DO VERSUS THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT WE HAVE BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF EQUIPMENT THAT CONTRACTORS HAVE. IS DONE IN A, IN A MORE EFFICIENT WAY SOMETIMES. BUT NO, THIS IS THAT MCCONNELL AND OUR DEPARTMENT HAVE BEEN WORKING HAND IN HAND, HAND IN HAND THROUGHOUT THIS COUNTY IN ORDER TO REDUCE THAT. AND ONE OF MY LEAD FORESTERS, BEN ROWE, HE IS INSTRUMENTAL ON MAKING SURE THAT THOSE THINGS HAPPEN IN A, IN A TIMELY MANNER AND GETTING THROUGH THE SEQUA AND ALL THE OTHER PROCESSES THAT HAPPEN. SO I CAN'T SAY 100% THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING THE THE CUTTING, BUT BEHIND THE SCENES FOR SURE. EXCELLENT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SUPERVISOR LONG. SUPERVISOR. PLUMMER. THANKS SEAN FOR THE PRESENTATION. A FEW QUESTIONS. YOU MENTIONED THE CONTRACT SAVINGS OF 1.7 MILLION FOR THIS PAST YEAR. WHEN THERE ARE CONTRACT SAVINGS, WHERE DOES THAT MONEY END UP GOING? DOES THAT GO INTO THE FUND BALANCE? DOES THAT GO BACK TO THE GENERAL FUND OR SOMEWHERE ELSE? YEAH, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. DEPENDING ON THE ON THE TIME OF YEAR. SO IT'S BROKEN UP INTO QUARTERLIES, RIGHT? SO WE PAY TWO QUARTERS AND THEN THE COUNTY PAYS THE OTHER TWO QUARTERS. SO DEPENDING ON WHERE THAT FUND BALANCE IS OR THAT CONTRACT SAVINGS WHERE IT LIES, IT GOES EITHER INTO OUR FUND BALANCE OR IT GOES INTO 173. RIGHT. I SEE 173. SO DEPENDING ON WHERE THAT LIES IS, IS WHO GETS THAT MONEY AT THE END OF THE DAY. WE CAN'T DO IT WITHOUT YOU GUYS. AND YOU GUYS CAN'T DO IT WITHOUT US, JUST THE WAY THAT IT WORKS. AND WHEN YOU SAY WHERE THAT LIES, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE TIME OF YEAR WHEN THE SAVINGS ARE BASICALLY OBTAINED. YEAH. SO DEPENDING ON THE TIME OF YEAR THAT IT'S BILLED. SO LET'S SAY THAT WITH THE AMADOR SIDE, WHOEVER'S QUARTER THAT WAS THAT MONEY WENT BACK INTO THAT SAVINGS OR TO THE GENERAL. 173 ON THE OTHER SIDE DEPENDS ON AT THE END OF THE YEAR, QUARTER FOR WHERE THAT MONEY LIES DEPENDS ON WHERE THAT ACTUALLY GOES, BECAUSE THE CONTRACT SAVINGS USUALLY IS NOT THAT HIGH BECAUSE OF AMADOR HAPPENING TO CLOSE OUT THIS YEAR. THAT'S WHY IT'S SO SIGNIFICANT. USUALLY THE THE CONTRACT SAVINGS IS RIGHT AROUND ABOUT 500,000 OR $300,000. AND SO THAT USUALLY GOES INTO ONE OF THE TWO SAVINGS ACCOUNTS. THANK YOU. AND THEN THE ONE SLIDE. MAYBE YOU CAN GO BACK TO IT. THE WHERE YOU HAD LIKE THE INCREASES AND IT WAS A DELAY ON EQUIPMENT. YEP. THAT ONE. SO FOR THE FIRST POINT THERE, DO WE EXPECT I KNOW THERE'S DELAYS IN THE EQUIPMENT THAT BASICALLY HAS ALREADY BEEN APPROVED. ONCE WE HAVE THAT BATCH OF, YOU KNOW, CAPITAL ASSETS OBTAINED. [00:25:01] DO YOU FORESEE THERE BEING KIND OF A BREAK IN NEEDING TO PURCHASE ADDITIONAL CAPITAL ASSETS, OR DO YOU SEE THAT NOW THIS IS LIKELY TO CONTINUE BEYOND THAT IN TERMS OF, YEAH, IT WILL CONTINUE SOME WAY, SHAPE OR FORM. LIKE I WAS TALKING ABOUT UTILIZING OUR BEST WAY TO REALLOCATE THE FLEET. SO WE'RE GETTING RID OF SOME OF OUR OLDER EQUIPMENT. AND THEN WE'RE ALSO BUYING NEWER EQUIPMENT, WHICH WILL BE A TYPE SIX, WHICH IS A SIGNIFICANT COST SAVINGS COMPARED TO THE, THE $1.1 MILLION AND $1.3 MILLION THAT WE UTILIZE FOR OUR TYPE ONE ENGINES THAT OUR STAFF IS ON. SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I USUALLY THERE'S 1 OR 2 PIECES OF EQUIPMENT THAT ARE BOUGHT OVER THE, OVER THE, I'LL CALL IT THE FISCAL YEAR. AND DEPENDING ON WHAT THAT IS, IS THE COST. WE ARE FORTUNATE THAT THROUGH THE ZOGG SETTLEMENT THAT WE WERE ABLE TO BUY TWO TYPE ONE ENGINES, WHICH IS ROUGHLY ABOUT 2.3, $2.4 MILLION. THAT'S WHY THAT IS SO HIGH. MOST OF OUR ENGINES LAST BETWEEN 10 TO 15 YEARS. IF THEY'RE THE FIRST OUT, IF THEY'RE NOT FIRST OUT AND THEY'RE BASED AROUND OUR PAID CALL FIREFIGHTERS THEY ARE ACTUALLY GOING TO BE LASTING 20 TO 25 YEARS BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT USED AS MUCH ON THE ANNUAL BASIS FOR OUR VOLUNTEER. WELL, OUR PAID CALL FIREFIGHTERS. I'M ALREADY TRYING TO CHANGE IT. THOSE, THOSE ENGINES ARE USING ABOUT 500 MILES A YEAR. SO WHAT HAPPENS IS WITHIN THOSE 500 MILES A YEAR, ALL THE SERVICES I STILL HAVE TO DO, RIGHT? SO A LOT OF THE TIRES ARE, ARE BECOMING ROT. A LOT OF THOSE THINGS THAT ARE NOT BEING UTILIZED, IT COSTS A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT TO US. SO BY GETTING RID OF THE ONES THAT ARE NOT BEING UTILIZED, I'M UTILIZING THE ABILITY TO BUY A SMALLER PIECE OF EQUIPMENT. TYPE SIX. WHAT A TYPE SIX IS, IS A LARGE LIKE AN F 350, F 450. AND THEN IT HAS A PUMP ON THE BACK. SO THAT REDUCES THE AMOUNT. SO AS I GET RID OF THE, THE OLDER PIECES OF EQUIPMENT THAT ARE LARGER, THEY COULD BE REPLACED DEPENDING ON OUR ALLOCATION, BECAUSE MY DEPUTY CHIEF OPERATIONS AND I ARE FIGURING OUT WHAT AREAS NEED WHAT, AND THEN UTILIZING OUR EQUIPMENT. IF WE SEE A HOLE, SUCH AS A WATER TENDER THAT IS OUT OF DATE, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BUY A WATER TENDER. IT DOES. IT'S JUST THE BEST WAY TO PROTECT THE CITIZENS AND ALSO HAVE THE MOST UPDATED EQUIPMENT BY REALLOCATING THE NECESSARY EQUIPMENT. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? YES. ABSOLUTELY. THANKS. AND THEN YOU MENTIONED WITH THE COUNTY FUND BALANCE THAT WE COULD, BY THE END OF THIS COMING FISCAL YEAR, BE TO ZERO. WHAT IS WHAT IS IT CURRENTLY? YEAH. 2627. IT COULD GO INTO A ZERO FUND BALANCE. WE'RE HOPING NOT. BUT TRULY THROUGH THE WAY THAT THE FUND BALANCE HAS BEEN UTILIZED OVER THE LAST COUPLE YEARS, IT'S BEEN A DIP, RIGHT? SO THAT $1.7 MILLION, IF ALL THAT CAME TO US, FANTASTIC. SO IT ALLOWS US TO TO KEEP MORE MONEY IN THAT FUND BALANCE TO HELP PAY FOR THE CONTRACT. BUT THAT FUND BALANCE IS SIGNIFICANTLY GOING LIKE THIS OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS. I'VE EXPLAINED IT TO THE CEO AND AND THE DEPUTY CEO ON TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT MEANS IN A COUPLE OF YEARS. WHAT THAT COULD MEAN IS EITHER REDUCTION IN PROFESSIONAL SERVICES OR A COMPLETE CONTRACT GIVE BACK, DEPENDING ON WHAT HAPPENS. IF THAT DOES HAPPEN, THAT WILL BE A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT SERVICE HERE BECAUSE IT'S SO IF WE IMAGINE THAT YOU DIDN'T HAVE ANY FUND BALANCE, BASICALLY THE THE, THE GENERAL FUND OR THE BUDGET UNIT 173 WOULD HAVE TO PICK UP THAT 2.5 MILLION. AND THEN ALSO THE ZOGG SETTLEMENT THAT'S PAYING FOR STAFFING, WHICH IS ABOUT 2 MILLION, WHICH WILL RUN OUT IN 2 TO 3 YEARS. THAT WOULD ALSO ROLL INTO THE GENERAL FUND. SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A IF THINGS MOVED IN THAT DIRECTION, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FOUR AND A HALF, $5 MILLION. THAT THEN WOULD HAVE TO BE ADDED TO THE GENERAL FUND ALLOCATION. IS THAT OKAY? YOU'RE 100% ACCURATE. AND FORTUNATELY FOR US THIS YEAR, THE THE CEO AGREED TO ALLOWING ONE ADDITIONAL MILLION DOLLARS TO COME TOWARDS THE CONTRACT TO HELP REDUCE THE BURDEN FOR THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS. WE'VE SAT DOWN AND TALKED ABOUT IT. AS A MATTER OF FACT, I BELIEVE IN JANUARY, WE'RE GOING TO SIT DOWN AND HAVE A LONGER CONVERSATION OF WHAT THE FUTURE HOLDS, EITHER FIGURING OUT DIFFERENT FUND BALANCE OR NOT. AS EVERYBODY KNOWS, I'M NOT CONSIDERED PUBLIC SAFETY. SO AS IT'S A SHOCK TO A LOT OF PEOPLE, I'M NOT CONSIDERED PUBLIC SAFETY BECAUSE I'M A CSA. SO THERE'S A TRADE OFF THERE, RIGHT? I GET A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MONEY THROUGH TAX INITIATIVES. AND BUT I'M ALSO I DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO GET PROP 172 MONEY AS AS BURTON SAID. THEY ALSO HAD A 5% INCREASE ON THAT SIDE. [00:30:03] SO FOR YEARS, WE'VE ASKED JUST TO HAVE THAT A LITTLE BIT OF AN ABILITY TO GET INTO THE PROP 172 MONEY, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW, MOST PEOPLE THINK THAT WE'RE PART OF PUBLIC SAFETY. IF YOU LOOK AT IT IN A HOLISTIC POINT OF VIEW. SO TO BE REAL HONEST THAT IS A BIG PROBLEM BECAUSE THE WAY THAT THE ZOG SETTLEMENT IS WRITTEN IS LEVEL OF SERVICE. SO IF IT IS NOT MAINTAINED AT A LEVEL SERVICE, THEN YOU ALSO LOSE THAT $2 MILLION, WHICH THEN COULD IN, IN TURN CLOSE ONE OF OUR FIRE STATIONS. THANK YOU. AND THEN TWO SPECIFIC BUDGET QUESTIONS. ONE WAS IN CHARGES FOR SERVICE. EXCUSE ME, THE THERE'S ONE THAT SAYS REIMBURSEMENT FOR FIRE CALLS. AND IN THIS PAST YEAR, WE ARE FOR THIS CURRENT YEAR, WE EXPECT THAT TO BE 1.1 MILLION. WHAT IS WHAT IS THAT REFERRING TO? THAT'S THE THAT'S THE, THE RENTAL PART OF IT. SO DEPENDING ON. YEAH. SO THAT IS THE RENTAL PORTION OF CAL FIRE RENTING COUNTY FIRE EQUIPMENT. SO AS WE HAVE THOSE LARGER FIRES, CAL FIRE SENDS OUT A LOT OF EQUIPMENT. AND THEN WE BACKFILL WITH OUR PAID PERSONNEL ON COUNTY EQUIPMENT IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COUNTY IS PROTECTED. OKAY. AND THEN THE LAST QUESTION, EXCUSE ME, THE IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAD BUDGETED FOR THE CSA THAT WE WOULD OUR EXPENSES WOULD EXCEED OUR REVENUE BY ABOUT OVER 7 MILLION FOR THIS CURRENT FISCAL YEAR. AND THAT WE'VE ESTIMATED THAT IT WILL ACTUALLY ONLY DO THAT BY ABOUT 500,000. I'M ASSUMING THAT THAT'S LARGELY DRIVEN BY THE WHAT YOU CALL THE ROLLOVER IN TERMS OF WE DIDN'T ACTUALLY SPEND ON THE CAPITAL ASSETS BECAUSE WE WEREN'T ABLE TO PROCURE THEM THE 1.7 MILLION SAVINGS. SO IS THAT THE DISCREPANCY BETWEEN THOSE TWO, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS 100% CORRECT. YEAH. SO THE REASON WHY I LOOK AT JULIA IS TRULY SHE'S SHE'S MY, MY PERSON. RIGHT? LIKE THERE'S NOBODY IN HERE THAT HAS A DEPARTMENT HEAD THAT COULD SAY THAT WE COULD ALL DO IT BY OURSELVES. MOST OF OUR FOLKS ARE RELIANT ON EXPERTS BECAUSE THAT'S THE WAY THEY LIVE. SO YES, TO MAKE THAT ANSWER. SO ROLL OVER. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. SUPERVISOR. PLUMMER. SUPERVISOR. KELSTROM. HEY, CHIEF. GOOD PRESENTATION. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I DIDN'T REALLY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS IN YOUR BUDGET AT ALL. I MEAN, IT IS WHAT IT IS. BUT THE, THE DEFENSIBLE SPACE ORDINANCE, DID I HEAR YOU SAY IT'S GOING TO BE PUSHED OUT UNTIL JULY? NOW WE'RE HOPING. WE'RE WORKING WITH COUNTY COUNCIL. IT SOUNDS LIKE THEY GOT IT ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE VERY MINUTE STUFF, AND IT HAD TO DO WITH THE INFRACTION SIDE. SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THEY ORIGINALLY THEY WANTED IT FOR SEIS OF OUR FEES FOR SERVICE, BUT WE WANTED MORE OF AN INFRACTION BECAUSE WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT WE DON'T WANT TO. IT'S MORE OF AN EDUCATION, RIGHT? IT'S GOING TO BE A CHANGE IN THE WAY THAT THE COUNTY ORDINANCE IS. AND SO I WOULD RATHER HAVE A COMPLIANCE THAN A AN INFRACTION ON SOMEBODY, BECAUSE THE WAY THAT THE GRANT IS, IS BASED OFF OF TRYING TO GET PEOPLE TO, TO THE END GOAL. RIGHT? I DON'T WANT TO SAY THAT SOMEBODY THAT DOESN'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO CLEAR THEIR PROPERTY IS AUTOMATICALLY GOING TO START HAVING TO PAY MONEY. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? SO WE'RE WORKING WITH COUNTY COUNCIL TO GET TO THAT END GOAL. AND I THINK WE'RE REAL CLOSE, I TRULY DO. ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE BCS THAT WAS FUNDED THROUGH ZOG, HIS NAME IS MATT ALEXANDER. AND HIM AND HIS, HIS STAFF OVER AT THE COUNTY COUNCIL. I, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY BY THE END OF JUNE, BUT I KNOW AS SOON AS I SAY THAT SOMETHING ELSE IS GOING TO POP UP AND A PR A OF, YOU KNOW, MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OR WHATEVER. IT'S MORE IMPORTANT TO GET IT RIGHT THAN TO GET IT FAST. SO I APPRECIATE THAT. I APPRECIATE COUNTY COUNCIL ALSO. AND YEAH, THAT'S THE ONE I MET HE WAS WORKING ON. AND THEN THE PARK FIRE BROKE OUT. SO BUT YEAH, I HAVE SOMEBODY IN COTTONWOOD THAT'S GOING THROUGH THAT RIGHT NOW WHERE IF THIS HAD BEEN IN PLACE, I MEAN, HE WAS, YOU KNOW, DOING A BURN PILE, IT ESCAPED. YOU KNOW, HE ADMITS HE'S WRONG. HE'S LIKE, I SCREWED UP. I MEAN, I'M, YOU KNOW, I'M FINE WITH THAT. BUT HE WAS CHARGED WITH A MISDEMEANOR AND HE HAD COURT EITHER THIS WEEK OR LAST WEEK, I THINK. AND, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS I TOLD HIM, I SAID, WELL, IF WE HAD THIS IN PLACE, YOU WOULD HAVE JUST GOTTEN A TICKET AND, YOU KNOW, BEEN ON WITH IT. SO ANYWAYS, THANK YOU FOR YOUR HARD WORK. APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. SUPERVISOR. KELSTROM. SUPERVISOR HARMON. MORNING, CHIEF. MORNING. I JUST WANT A LITTLE CLARIFICATION ON HOW YOU HOW YOU PICK DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE BUDGET, BUT HOW YOU PICK THE AREAS THAT LIKE THE BURN AREAS THAT YOU'RE DOING TODAY. YEAH. AND THEN YOU REFERRED TO DERSH. IS THAT WHERE DIRK COMES INTO 44? IS THAT THAT AREA RIGHT THERE? THE INTERSECTION. SO BASICALLY FROM DESCHUTES ALL THE WAY UP ONE WAY, SHAPE OR FORM, WE'RE REDUCING THOSE FUELS. [00:35:01] SO THE WAY THAT WE PICK A LOT OF OUR VMP PROJECTS, OUR VEGETATION MANAGEMENT PROJECTS ARE BASED OFF OF THE TIME OF YEAR AND HOW THAT VEGETATION IS EITHER NOT TAKING IN THE MOISTURE OR IS COMPLETELY DEAD. SO OBVIOUSLY DURING THE WINTER TIME WE CAN'T DO AS MANY BROADCAST ACRES, BUT WHAT WE CAN DO IS CUT, PILE AND BURN. SO YOU'LL SEE US CUTTING AND THEN PILING THEM BURNING ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD, WHICH MOST PEOPLE HAVE SEEN. AND THEN WE TRY TO HIT A WIDE VARIETY OF AREAS. BUT OUR PRIMARY WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO IS WHAT IS THE BEST FOR THE COMMUNITY. SO IF WE CAN GO RIGHT UP NEXT TO THE HOUSES OF, OF THE COMMUNITY, SUCH AS THE GORE RANCH WE BURNED OFF ABOUT 500 ACRES. 600 ACRES, RIGHT BEHIND PEOPLE, PEOPLE'S HOUSES. AND LAST YEAR, WE WERE VERY SUCCESSFUL BECAUSE WHAT WE DID LAST YEAR IS WE BURNED IN THE SAME AREA A LITTLE BIT. AND IT STOPPED A VERY RAPIDLY ESCALATING FIRE. AND IT HIT ONE OF OUR BMP LINES AND IT WENT COMPLETELY OUT. SO THAT'S A HUGE SUCCESS BECAUSE HISTORICALLY THAT FIRE EXACTLY, ALMOST TO THE POINT A FEW YEARS AGO, DEVASTATED ABOUT, I WANT TO SAY UNDER 150 ACRES. BUT WHAT IT DID IS IT DESTROYED 2 OR 3 STRUCTURES. AND ANYTIME A STRUCTURE IS DESTROYED, IT DESTROYS PEOPLE'S LIVES. SO WHAT WE TRY TO DO IS BALANCE THAT ALONG WITH THE, THE LARGE AREA ACREAGE, SUCH AS IN THE MILLVILLE PLAINS OR UP IN BACK OR NOT BACKBONE, BUT BUCKHORN, ALL THOSE PLACES THAT HAVE THE LARGER RANCHES, WE'VE BEEN CONVERTING THE THE BRUSH TO GRASS OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS. SO THAT A DIFFERENT ON A DIFFERENT QUESTION. HOW MUCH. HAVE YOU BEEN GETTING MUCH FEEDBACK ON THE VOLUNTEER. DO YOU CALL IT BIENNIAL. YEAH. BIENNIAL. YEAH. SO BIENNIAL THE PHYSICAL PORTION IS STARTING. AND SO WE, I WOULD IMAGINE WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO POSSIBLY LOSE ABOUT 30% OF OUR PAID CALL FIREFIGHTERS BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO MEET THE EXPECTATIONS OF THE PHYSICAL FITNESS SIDE. AND THAT IS A VERY IF YOU START LOOKING THROUGHOUT THE COUNTIES UP AND DOWN THE STATE, IT'S ACTUALLY ONE OF THE MORE LENIENT ONES. SOME OF THE OTHER COUNTIES THAT WE HAVE CONTRACTS WITH CAL FIRE WISE, THEY'RE MAKING THEM DO THE EXACT SAME THING AS WHAT OUR PAID STAFF IS, WHICH I DON'T WANT TO DO HERE. SO WE WORKED WITH COUNTY RISK TO GET IT DOWN AS FAR AS POSSIBLE. AND SOME OF THOSE THINGS IT IS WHAT IT IS. AND UNFORTUNATELY WE WILL LOSE SOME OF OUR PAID CALL FIREFIGHTERS. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I WOULD RATHER I WOULD RATHER THEM BE SAFE THAN TO HAVE A HEART ATTACK OR HAVE A STROKE OR ANY OF THOSE THINGS WHILE THEY'RE OUT ON THE LINE. AND THE WORST, THE WORST CASE SCENARIO, THEY PASS AWAY. SO TRYING TO DO PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE ON THOSE INDIVIDUALS TO BE AHEAD OF IT IS, IS A GOAL. SO ANY TYPE OF PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE THAT WE CAN DO IN ORDER TO SEE OR HIGHLIGHT THAT THEY WOULD NOT MEET THE EXPECTATIONS OF IT PHYSICALLY. IF IT SAVES ONE LIFE, I'LL CALL IT A SUCCESS. AND, AND I DO CONSIDER YOU PUBLIC SAFETY IN MY MIND. AND AND I KNOW THE, I KNOW THE, THE BOARD AND THE, AND THE PEOPLE OUT THERE APPRECIATE THE WORK YOU DO. AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SUPERVISOR HARMON SUPERVISOR LONG. CHIEF. I HAD A COUPLE FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THIS DIMINISHING COUNTY FUND BALANCE AND HOW THAT ESSENTIALLY SUBSIDIZES THIS CONTRACT, THE FUNDING SOURCE FOR THAT IS WHAT. AND IS THAT A GENERAL FUND SOURCE OR WHAT? WHAT'S THE FUNDING SOURCE FOR THIS COUNTY FUND, THE COUNTY FUND BALANCE? THE COUNTY THE, THE COUNTY FIRE FUND BALANCE IS STRICTLY UNDERNEATH THE CSA. AND SO THE WAY THAT THAT IS DONE IS BASICALLY EITHER THROUGH CONTRACT SAVINGS OR RENTING OUR EQUIPMENT. THERE'S ALSO ANOTHER FUND BALANCE, BUT IT HAS ALLOCATIONS SUCH AS THE ZOGG SETTLEMENT. SO ALL OF THAT IS UNDERNEATH ONE FUND BALANCE. BUT IF LIKE, I'LL USE ZOGG SETTLEMENT, THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY IN THERE FOR THE NEXT 3 TO 4 YEARS. BUT WE CANNOT TAP THAT IF THE CURRENT STAFFING IS NOT BEING DONE. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? YES. YES. OKAY. SO THERE'S THERE'S NO REAL WAY TO REMEDY THAT TO SLOW DOWN THIS HEMORRHAGE, IF YOU WILL. I'M CONCERNED ABOUT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE EXTRA MILLIONS THAT COULD HIT US A YEAR OUT OR. YEAH, NO, I AGREE. [00:40:03] FORTUNATE FOR US THAT MR. RICKERT PUT ANOTHER MILLION DOLLARS INTO IT TO SLOW DOWN THE HEMORRHAGE. BUT UNFORTUNATELY, WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR QUITE A FEW YEARS ON TRYING TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO TO FIX THE PROBLEM THAT WE'VE BEEN FORESEEING AS, AS WE JOKE AROUND WE'RE THE BOY THAT CRIES WOLF, RIGHT? BECAUSE EVERY TIME THAT WE KNOW THAT IT'S AT THAT VERY LAST EDGE, WE GET SOME INJECT OF A LOT OF MONEY, SUCH AS ZOG OR ARPA, OR THE DIXIE SETTLEMENT THAT PAYS FOR X AMOUNT OF PEOPLE FOR THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS. SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY IS AWARE THAT IF NOTHING ELSE HAPPENS. 2627 THERE WON'T BE ENOUGH MONEY FOR THE COUNTY FIRE CONTRACT. THANK YOU. AND THEN I HAD ONE TECHNICAL QUESTION UNDER SERVICES AND SUPPLIES. IF YOU LOOK AT FIRE, FIRE SAFETY SERVICES, IT WAS ABOUT 2.5 MILLION. AND THEN IT'S JUMPING TO FOUR AND A HALF, 4.7. THAT'S ABOUT A TWO. 2 MILLION SOMETHING JUMP JUST. YEAH. AND IT'S PROBABLY THE 2 MILLION DIFFERENCE IS BETWEEN NOT USING SOG AND THEN ARPA. ARPA FUNDS. DID YOU GUYS HEAR THAT? SO WHAT IT IS, IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN OUR ARPA AND SOG FUNDS AND THE CONTRACT. SO OUR CONTRACT DID GO UP $2 MILLION. AND THAT IS BASED OFF OF LAST YEAR, THE, THE CONTRACT THEY DID A BUY DOWN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA, SO SOME OF THE COSTS WERE NOT AS HIGH. WELL, NOW THEY ARE NOT DOING A BUY DOWN BECAUSE OF FISCAL PROBLEMS THROUGHOUT THE STATE. SO WHAT'S HAPPENING IS THAT IT WENT BACK UP TO THE FULL COST. AND WE ALSO ADDED ADDITIONAL STAFFING. SO BASICALLY WHAT IT DOES IS THAT IT ADDED THE BUY DOWN PLUS THE INCREASE IN THE, IN THE CONTRACT. SO THE REASON WHY OUR CONTRACT OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS HAS GONE UP IS ONE THE COST, RIGHT. BUT TWO WE ALSO OPENED UP A SCHEDULE A STATION UP IN SHINGLETOWN. AND THAT WAS AN INCREASE OF ABOUT $2 MILLION. THE GOOD PART IS THAT WE LEVERAGE OUR, OUR, OUR AGREEMENT BETWEEN EACH OTHER, BETWEEN COUNTY FIRE AND CAL FIRE. AND THE COUNTY FIRE DEPARTMENT IS ACTUALLY STAYING AT ONE OF OUR CAL FIRE FACILITIES. SO THERE WAS NO OPERATING COST OR THERE IS NO LARGE COST, SUCH AS MAKING A NEW FIRE STATION SUCH AS STATION 47, RIGHT? SO WE UTILIZE THAT IN ORDER TO BETTER SERVE THE COMMUNITY UP THERE, BECAUSE THE CALLS WERE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF CALLS. AS EVERYBODY KNOWS, SHINGLETOWN IS ISOLATED UP THERE. AND SO THROUGH THESE YEARS OF INCREASING OUR COST TO BETTER SERVE THE COMMUNITY, IT COSTS MONEY. AND UNFORTUNATELY AS, AS EVERYBODY KNOWS, IT'S NOT CHEAP. SO, SO THIS IS NOT A ONE AND DONE. THIS IS THIS IS WITH US IN PERPETUITY, SO TO SPEAK. YEAH. SO MOST LIKELY THE CONTRACT WILL STAY ABOUT THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY. 11.4 ISH, DEPENDING ON WHAT THE WAGES AND BENEFITS ARE TO OUR OUR FIREFIGHTERS. BUT YOU'RE ONLY PAYING FOR THE FIREFIGHTERS THAT IS UNDERNEATH THE CONTRACT. LIKE THERE'S A VERY I'LL USE, I THINK IT'S ABOUT 35 FOLKS THAT YOU ARE PAYING FOR, BUT YOU ALSO HAVE 600 OTHER FOLKS THAT ARE UNDERNEATH MY MY COMMAND. SO THAT IS PART OF THE CAL FIRE SIDE. SO YOU GET A $200 MILLION FIRE DEPARTMENT FOR $11.4 MILLION. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? SURE. AND YOU AND I HAD TALKED A YEAR AGO OR SOMETHING, AND I RECALL YOUR CONTRACT WAS ABOUT EIGHT AND A HALF. AND SO NOW THIS IS THIS IS THAT INCREASE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT GOING UP TO 11. YEAH. GOT IT. OKAY. SO THAT IS PART OF THE, THE, THE WAY THE STATE DID IT WAS THEY DID THE CONTRACT BUY DOWN, RIGHT. TO BASICALLY THE UNFUNDED LIABILITY PORTION OF IT. SO THAT'S ANOTHER HIGHLIGHT IS UNFUNDED LIABILITY. I SAW TO DO THAT PRESENTATION ON TUESDAY. IS THAT CORRECT? SO THAT IS NO IMPACT TO YOU GUYS. THAT IS ON THE STATE. SO THAT IS A HIGHLIGHT ON THE CONTRACT THAT YOU GUYS DON'T HAVE TO PAY FOR THE RETIRED FIREFIGHTER 30 YEARS FROM NOW, YOU'RE ONLY PAYING FOR THOSE FOLKS THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN THE CONTRACT ITSELF. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SUPERVISOR LONG. SUPERVISOR. PLUMMER. YEAH. ONE QUICK FOLLOW UP QUESTION. YOU'VE SAID TRADITIONAL STAFFING. YEAH. AND I KNOW I THINK AT THE CITY OF REDDING, THEY'VE TALKED ABOUT LIKE A CERTAIN NUMBER OF FIREFIGHTERS PER ENGINE. IS THAT A SIMILAR STRUCTURE HERE? YEAH. SO WHAT THIS DOES IS ALLOWS ALLOWS US BASICALLY TO HAVE A CAPTAIN, ENGINEER AND A FIREFIGHTER. HISTORICALLY, WE ORIGINALLY STARTED WITH JUST ONE PERSON ON THE ENGINE. [00:45:03] WHEN I WAS A VOLUNTEER AND OVER THE LAST COUPLE YEARS, THE DEMAND ON THE FIRE SERVICE HAS NOT ALLOWED US TO MAINTAIN ONE PERSON ON ENGINE FOR SAFETY WISE. SO AS THE CONTRACT AND OVER THE YEARS, THE DEMAND OF FIREFIGHTERS TO HAVE THE TWO IN, TWO OUT AND ALL THE OTHER THINGS THAT COME ALONG WITH IT ALSO ALLOWS US TO INCREASE STAFFING. SO YES, THAT ALLOWS US TO HAVE THREE PEOPLE ON PRETTY MUCH EVERY DAY. AND ALSO HAS TO MEET THE CAL FIRE STAFFING FACTORS FOR EVERY ONE PERSON. THERE HAS TO BE TWO OTHER PEOPLE. SO FOR EVERY ONE PEOPLE, ONE PERSON ON THE ENGINE, THERE'S A TOTAL OF THREE. PER PER SEAT. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? SO IF YOU HAVE THREE PEOPLE ON TOTAL, YOU WOULD HAVE NINE PEOPLE ASSIGNED TO THAT ENGINE. SO WHEN THEY GO ON OR OFF, NOT EVERYBODY IS ON. BUT YOU ALSO WILL HAVE AN OVERLAP. SO WHAT THAT OVERLAP DOES WITH THEIR SCHEDULE IS TECHNICALLY YOU'LL HAVE THREE PEOPLE ON ENGINE, BUT YOU MIGHT HAVE 4 OR 5 PEOPLE THAT ARE ASSIGNED TO THAT STATION, WHICH ALLOWS US TO COVER WATER TENDERS AND OTHER PIECES OF EQUIPMENT TO HELP DO THE RESPONSE IN THE AREA. THANK YOU. SHIFT CHANGE. YEP. ALL RIGHT. SO I HAVE ONE QUESTION. EVERYBODY ELSE IS GOOD. THE ONE OF THE THINGS I REALLY ADMIRE AS I'VE GOTTEN TO KNOW YOU A LITTLE BIT AND MORE OF THE INNER WORKINGS OF YOUR DEPARTMENT IS CULTURE THAT YOU'VE CREATED. AND AS WE'VE LOOKED INTO STAFFING IN VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS CAN YOU TALK JUST BRIEFLY ABOUT HOW MANY VACANCIES YOU HAVE AND WHY YOU THINK YOU'RE PULLING FIREFIGHTERS TAKING LESS MONEY WORKING FOR YOU? I'D LIKE TO SAY THAT IT'S MY STAFF. IT'S TRULY MY STAFF THAT THAT MAKES AN ENVIRONMENT THAT IS IN MY OPINION, FANTASTIC. RIGHT. NONE OF US CAN DO IT ALONE. AND MY STAFF IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE HARDEST WORKING GROUPS IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA. MOST OF US HAVE GROWN UP HERE, SO WE HAVE THE INTERACTIONS WITH THE PUBLIC AND EVERYTHING ELSE ALONG WITH IT. HISTORICALLY, OUR OUR VACANCY RATE HAS BEEN VERY MINIMAL, IF AT ALL. RIGHT NOW THE COUNTY OR THE CAL FIRE SIDE IS GROWING. SO WE ARE ALSO GOING TRADITIONAL STAFFED AT ALL OF OUR FACILITIES. AND SO WHAT THAT DOES IS IT INCREASED A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF, OF PERSONNEL. BUT IF YOU LOOK UP AND DOWN THE STATE, WE ONLY HAD LAST WEEK, WE HAD THREE VACANCIES TOTAL. AND THAT IS A SIGNIFICANT I'LL CALL THAT A PLUS. IF YOU LOOK AT ALL FIRE DEPARTMENTS ACROSS THE STATE, SOME OF MY PARTNERS OVER IN HUMBOLDT AND MENDOCINO, THEY'RE 30 CAPTAIN SHORT AND I AM WITH THE INCREASE, I'M VERY MINIMAL SHORT. HOW MANY TOTAL DO YOU HAVE? HOW MANY PEOPLE? YEAH, I HAVE JUST UNDER 600 PEOPLE. AND I'M VERY FORTUNATE THAT THIS IS A PLACE THAT PEOPLE WANT TO WORK FOR US AS THE, AS THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. AND ONE THING IS, IS THAT WE HAVE A VERY AGGRESSIVE FIRE DEPARTMENT HERE AND WE TAKE IT VERY PERSONAL PERSONAL WHEN THINGS DON'T GO AS PLANNED SUCH AS THE PARK INCIDENT. WE, WE SENT EVERYTHING THAT WE POSSIBLY COULD. YOU'LL SEE IN MY ANNUAL REPORT THAT WE'LL BE DOING A PRESENTATION. WE WERE DOWN TO THE VERY, VERY BARE MINIMUM BONES HERE IN SHASTA COUNTY. BECAUSE WE DIDN'T WANT TO GET INTO SHASTA COUNTY. AND WE SENT IT ALL DOWN TO TEHAMA AND BUTTE IN ORDER TO HELP THEM STOP THE INCIDENT. AND I CANNOT SAY THAT IT'S IT'S IT'S DEFINITELY NOT ME. IT'S ALL MY STAFF FROM THE FROM MY DEPUTY CHIEF ALL THE WAY DOWN TO MY OFFICE TECH. IT'S A CULTURE THAT I THINK THAT WE ASK FOR THEM TO SERVE THE PUBLIC AS BEST WE CAN. AND WHEN WE'RE NOT MEETING THAT, I TAKE IT PERSONAL. SO THAT'S THE WAY I LOOK AT IT. BUT I'M VERY FORTUNATE THAT WE'RE AT A PLACE THAT PEOPLE LIKE FIGHTING FIRE AND DO IT AGGRESSIVELY HERE. SO. WELL, I APPRECIATE THE CULTURE THAT YOU'VE CREATED AND THE MANY, THE MANY FIREFIGHTERS I'VE SPOKEN TO OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS JUST RAVE ABOUT YOU. AND THAT'S WHY I CAN'T UNDERSTAND WHY EVERY FIREFIGHTER WANTS TO GROW UP AND BE A SHERIFF'S DEPUTY. I KNOW I'M STILL THE SHERIFF. PROBABLY TOLD YOU THAT. SO. ALL RIGHT, WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, MOVING ON. WE HAVE CHIEF NEIL PROBATION. COME ON UP. WELCOME. THANK YOU. OKAY. GOOD MORNING. CHAIR. MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. TRACY NEIL, CHIEF PROBATION OFFICER. THE PROBATION DEPARTMENT HAS TWO BUDGET UNITS, AND I'M GOING TO START WITH THE BUDGET UNIT 262, [00:50:04] WHICH IS THE JUVENILE REHABILITATION FACILITY, WHICH CAN BE FOUND ON PAGE 201. THANK YOU. THERE WE ARE. SO I'M GOING TO START WITH THE BUDGET UNIT 262, WHICH IS THE JUVENILE REHABILITATION FACILITY. THE JCF STRIVES TO PROVIDE A SAFE AND SECURE ENVIRONMENT FOR YOUTH REQUIRING DETENTION. THE STAFF AIM TO MEET STATE REGULATIONS WHILE PROVIDING AN ARRAY OF REHABILITATIVE PROGRAMS AND SERVICES TO YOUTH, REQUIRING BOTH SHORT AND LONG TERM COMMITMENTS. OUR FACILITY SERVES THREE GROUPS OF INDIVIDUALS. WE SERVE OUR TRADITIONAL YOUTH REQUIRING DETENTION, AWAITING COURT OR SERVING A COMMITMENT. WE HAVE OUR RIVER'S EDGE ACADEMY PROGRAM, WHICH IS A REHABILITATIVE TREATMENT CAMP COMMITMENT PROGRAM, AND THEN WE HAVE OUR SECURE TRACK TREATMENT PROGRAM, WHICH SERVES INDIVIDUALS UP TO AGE 25. OUR HIGHEST DAILY POPULATION FOR THIS LAST FISCAL YEAR WAS AT 39 COMPARED TO LAST YEAR, WHICH WAS AT 46 OUR DAILY AVERAGE POPULATION THIS LAST FISCAL YEAR HAS BEEN ABOUT 26 COMPARED TO LAST FISCAL YEAR, WHICH WAS ABOUT 30. TODAY, OUR POPULATION SITS AT 31, WITH TEN OF THOSE BEING FEMALES IN 21 BEING MALES. WHEN WE LOOK AT THAT POPULATION OF THE 31, WE HAVE FIVE YOUTH THAT ARE IN OUR SECURE TRACK TREATMENT PROGRAM, SEVEN YOUTH IN OUR RIVER'S EDGE ACADEMY PROGRAM IN. 19 YOUTH THAT ARE IN OUR GENERAL POPULATION. WE'VE HAD NO STAFFING CHANGES AND HAVE NONE GOING INTO THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR, AND WE REMAIN AT 52 STAFF. THE PROGRAM CHANGE THAT WE HAVE, AND I HAVE NOTED ON THE POWERPOINT, IS REALLY THE CONTINUED IMPLEMENTATION OF JUVENILE REALIGNMENT, WHICH IS THE SB 823 AND SB 92, WHICH IS US TAKING THOSE YOUTH OVER FROM THE STATE AS THEY CLOSE THE DEPARTMENT OF JUVENILE JUSTICE. SO THIS LAST FISCAL YEAR, WE'VE REALLY FOCUSED ON DEVELOPMENT AND THE IMPLEMENTATION OF OUR PHASE PROGRAM, WHICH REALLY OUTLINES THE TREATMENT MILESTONES THAT YOUTH NEED TO MEET TO PROGRESS THROUGH THAT STP PROGRAM AND THAT WE'RE REPORTING TO THE COURT EVERY SIX MONTHS. JUST REALLY QUICK FOR CLARIFICATION. YOUTH. UP TO WHAT AGE ARE WE STILL TALKING 20 INDIVIDUALS UP TO AGE 25. 25. SO OUR SECURE TRACK TREATMENT PROGRAM, WHICH IS ONE OF THE THREE POPULATIONS WE SERVE, THEY ARE THE SECURE TRACK TREATMENT PROGRAM. AND THAT'S THE POPULATION THAT CAN AGE UP TO 25. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE OTHER SUPERVISORS KNOW WHEN SHE REFERS TO YOUTH, IT'S UP TO 25 YEARS OLD BECAUSE I'LL BRING THAT UP. CORRECT. AND I DON'T WANT TO INTERRUPT THE PRESENTATION, BUT IT'S A POINT. IT JUST DRIVES ME FREAKING NUTS BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT A YOUTH IF YOU'RE 25. SO GO AHEAD. I'M SORRY. YES, UNFORTUNATELY, THAT'S HOW THE STATE REFERS TO THEM. I KNOW YOUR FEELINGS ABOUT THAT. YEAH. I THINK EVERYBODY'S WELL, YES. IT'S A VERY IT'S A VERY CHALLENGING. AND WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT POPULATION IN PARTICULAR. IT'S A CHALLENGING POPULATION, RIGHT? AND THE STATE MADE THAT DECISION TO CLOSE THE DEPARTMENT OF JUVENILE JUSTICE, AND THEY PUSHED THAT POPULATION ON THE COUNTY. AND WHEN WE BUILT OUR JUVENILE REHABILITATION FACILITY AND OPENED IT IN 2014, WE HAD NO IDEA THAT THAT WOULD HAPPEN. AND IT'S SIMILAR TO AB 109 REALIGNMENT, WHERE THE STATE HAS PUSHED THAT ADULT POPULATION ON OUR COUNTY JAIL. SO WE'RE NOW SEEING IT, AND WE HAVE BEEN SEEING IT THE LAST FOUR YEARS IN OUR JUVENILE REHABILITATION FACILITY. SO WE CAN TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT. SO AGAIN, THE PROGRAM CHANGE HAS BEEN THE FULL IMPLEMENTATION OF THE FES PROGRAM, WHICH OUTLINES THOSE MILESTONES. AND SO THAT POPULATION HAS TO GO BEFORE THE COURT EVERY SIX MONTHS FOR A REVIEW OF THE REHABILITATIVE PLAN. AND SO THE FES PROGRAM SETS OUT THOSE MILESTONES THAT WE WANT THEM TO MEET. AND WERE REPORTING TO THE COURT IN OUR JUVENILE DIVISION DIRECTOR AS WELL AS OUR J.R.F. DIRECTOR REALLY WORKED HARD TO DEVELOP AND IMPLEMENT THAT PROGRAM. SO WHEN WE THINK ABOUT THAT SECURE TRACK TREATMENT PROGRAM, SINCE THE INCEPTION OF THAT PROGRAM, WE'VE HAD 14 INDIVIDUALS SENTENCED, ORDERED TO THAT PROGRAM. NOW, I KNOW IN OUR BUDGET NARRATIVE, WE MENTIONED 12. BUT SINCE WE SUBMITTED THAT NARRATIVE, WE'VE HAD TWO ADDITIONAL INDIVIDUALS COME INTO THAT PROGRAM. AND IF YOU REMEMBER, THE DEPARTMENT OF JUVENILE JUSTICE CLOSED INTAKE ON JULY 1ST OF 2021, AND THEN THEY CLOSED THEIR DOORS JUNE 30TH OF 2023. SO WE'RE KIND OF CLOSE. NEXT YEAR WILL BE APPROACHING THAT FIVE YEAR MARK FOR HAVING TAKEN OVER THAT POPULATION. WHEN WE THINK ABOUT OUR 2425 ACCOMPLISHMENTS, [00:55:05] WE STARTED THE RISING SCHOLARS PROGRAM THAT'S IN PARTNERSHIP WITH OUR OFFICE OF EDUCATION IN SHASTA COLLEGE. AND WE LAUNCHED THAT JANUARY OF 2024. SINCE WE STARTED THAT PROGRAM, WE'VE HOSTED FIVE COLLEGE COURSES WITHIN THE J R, F WITH A PASS RATE OF ABOUT 65%. THIS SUMMER, WE'RE HOSTING A TWO UNIT CULINARY AND BAKING COURSE IN THE JRF THAT WILL RUN SIX WEEKS. AND WE HAVE FIVE RESIDENTS ENROLLED. AND THAT STARTED YESTERDAY. SO WE'RE PRETTY EXCITED ABOUT THAT PROGRAM. ANOTHER ACCOMPLISHMENT IS WE CONTINUE THE EXPANSION OF OUR WEST RECREATION YARD. SO IF YOU REMEMBER LAST FISCAL YEAR, REALLY OUR FOCUS WAS THE DEMOLITION OF THE OLD JUVENILE FACILITY, THE OLD JUVENILE HALL. AND THEN THIS YEAR, OUR FOCUS HAS BEEN ON REBUILDING THAT SPACE, BUILDING A VOCATIONAL AND CLASSROOM SHOP, AS WELL AS WHEN WE WERE IN THE DEMOLITION PERIOD. WE HAD ALL OF OUR GROW PROGRAM. ALL OF OUR GARDEN PROGRAM WAS COVERED WITH PLASTIC. AND SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING TO REBUILD THAT THIS YEAR AS WELL. WE CONTINUE TO MEET THE EXPECTATIONS AND REGULATIONS SET FORTH BY THE BOARD OF STATE AND COMMUNITY CORRECTIONS, AND WE RECEIVED OUR TARGETED INSPECTION COMPLIANCE LETTER FOR FISCAL YEAR 2425. WE HAD THE OFFICE OF YOUTH AND COMMUNITY RESTORATION ON SITE FOR OUR ANNUAL VISIT, WHICH WAS MAY 29TH, AND THAT WENT WELL FOR GOALS. WHEN WE THINK ABOUT OUR GOALS FOR 2526, THE FIRST GOAL WE HAVE LISTED IS THE CAL AIM IMPLEMENTATION, AND THAT HAS REALLY BEEN A TWO YEAR GOAL FOR US. IT STARTED LAST FISCAL YEAR. IT HAS CONTINUED INTO THIS FISCAL YEAR. IN REALLY OUR GO LIVE DATE WILL BE JULY OF 2026. AND WE HAVE A TEAM INTERNALLY WORKING ON THAT IMPLEMENTATION IN THE SUCCESSFUL IMPLEMENTATION OF THAT PROGRAM. I'VE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR EXPANSION OF THE WEST RECREATION YARD. THIS WILL BE A CONTINUED GOAL FOR 2526. AND WITHIN OUR BUDGET, WE HAVE THE IMPLEMENTATION OF OUR GROW FARM STAND. WE'VE DONE A COUPLE OF GROW POP UP FARM STANDS THAT HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFUL AND HAVE ALLOWED THE KIDS TO REALLY WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY AND WORK WITH SOME OF THE POPULATION TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THOSE THAT PRODUCE AVAILABLE. WE HAVE AN INDUSTRIAL GREENHOUSE BUDGETED, AS WELL AS THE IMPLEMENTATION OF SOME RECREATIONAL EQUIPMENT AND SOME VOCATIONAL PROGRAM THAT WILL ALL BE THE FOCUS OF THE WEST RECREATION YARD. WE HAVE SOME FACILITY IMPROVEMENTS PLANNED FOR THIS NEXT BUDGET YEAR, WHICH REALLY INCLUDES SOME EVERY YEAR WE'RE WORKING ON OUR CONTINUED SECURITY AND CAMERA SYSTEM, SO WE HAVE SOME UPGRADES PLANNED FOR THAT. WE HAVE SOME REPLACEMENT OF FURNITURE AS WELL AS SOME CARPET TILES, SO JUST CONTINUED MAINTENANCE OF THE FACILITY. WE HAVE CURRENTLY OUR POST ORDERS IN OUR J, R F POLICY ARE LOCATED ONLINE AND KIND OF IN PAPER BINDERS. IN THIS NEXT FISCAL YEAR, WE'LL BE TRANSITIONING THAT POLICY IN POST ORDERS TO THE LEXIPOL SYSTEM, WHICH THE PROBATION DEPARTMENT ALREADY USES FOR OUR OUR POLICIES. AND SO OUR GOAL IS TO GET THAT TRANSFER COMPLETED AND IMPLEMENTED. AND THEN, AS WITH EVERY BUDGET YEAR, WE STRIVE TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS AND EXPAND OUR REHABILITATIVE AND VOCATIONAL SERVICES. AND THAT REALLY HAPPENS WITHIN BOTH BUDGET UNITS. SO WHEN WE THINK ABOUT THE PROBATION SIDE, THE PROBATION BUDGET IS THE 2.63, WHICH IS LOCATED ON PAGE 208. PROBATION PROVIDES AN ARRAY OF SERVICES FROM PRETRIAL COURT INVESTIGATIONS, ACCOUNTABILITY, COMMUNITY SUPERVISION, REHABILITATIVE SERVICES, INTERVENTION AND PREVENTION SERVICES, AS WELL AS DIVERSIONARY SERVICES. WE HAVE THREE OFFICES. WE HAVE OUR ADULT OFFICE, WHICH IS JUST DOWN THE STREET ON COURT STREET, AND THEN OUR COMMUNITY CORRECTIONS CENTER, WHICH IS ACROSS THE STREET HERE FROM THE COUNTY ADMIN BUILDING. AND THEN WE HAVE OUR JUVENILE DIVISION, WHICH IS DOWN ON MARKET STREET. NOW, OUR JUVENILE DIVISION AND THE COMMUNITY CORRECTIONS CENTER, THEY DO OPERATE LATER INTO THE EVENING TO ALLOW YOUTH FAMILIES AS WELL AS ADULTS TO RECEIVE REHABILITATIVE TO RECEIVE REHABILITATIVE SERVICES AFTER HOURS. WITHIN THE TWO, SIX, THREE, WE HAVE 88 STAFF BUDGETED IN THIS BUDGET UNIT. WE ARE ADDING ONE STAFF THIS YEAR, AND IT'S GOING TO BE A PEER SUPPORT SPECIALIST TO SUPPORT OUR ADULT DIVISION IN OUR COMMUNITY CORRECTIONS CENTER. WE HAVE A DPO ONE TWO THAT WE'RE DOING AN ADD DELETE TO CREATE A DPI OH THREE THAT WILL BE [01:00:01] ASSIGNED TO THE TIFF TEAM, THE NARCOTICS TASK FORCE. WE HAVEN'T HAD A STAFF WITH THAT TEAM, AND SO WE'RE HOPING BY ADDING AND DELETING AND ADDING THE THE PROBATION OFFICER THREE THAT'S WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO FILL THAT POSITION OUT THERE AT THE AT THE CENTER. IF WE'VE HAD ONE PROGRAM CHANGE AND THAT WAS SB 1051 WHICH WENT INTO EFFECT JULY 1ST OF 2024. AND THAT HAS BEEN IMPACTFUL TO US MAINLY WITHIN OUR JUVENILE DIVISION WHEN IT COMES TO YOUTH REQUIRING A LEVEL OF TREATMENT, REHABILITATIVE CARE THAT EXCEEDS OUR LOCAL CAPACITY, WE NEED TO PLACE THEM IN A SHORT TERM RESIDENTIAL FACILITY AND STRTP. AND SO THE CHANGE THAT SB 1051 DID IS IT REQUIRED SPECIALTY MENTAL HEALTH CONTRACTS FOR PLACEMENTS. IF A YOUTH DIDN'T MEET THE TWO CRITERIA FOR PRESUMPTIVE TRANSFER. SO THAT'S REQUIRED A LITTLE BIT MORE WORK ON OUR PART AND STRONGER PARTNERSHIPS WITH HHS AYE IN ORDER TO PROCESS THOSE CONTRACTS, TO GET THOSE YOUTH PLACED IN THOSE STRAPS AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. AND SO YOU WILL SEE SOME OF THOSE CONTRACTS, THOSE SPECIALTY MENTAL HEALTH CONTRACTS COMING BEFORE THE BOARD ON BEHALF OF PROBATION FOR SOME OF THOSE YOUTH, FOR ACCOMPLISHMENTS FOR 2425, WE STARTED THE MEDI-CAL ADMINISTRATIVE ACTIVITIES, WHICH WE STARTED IN JANUARY OF 2024. AND WE'RE CONTINUING. SO THAT IS ONE OF OUR ACCOMPLISHMENTS AND REMAINS HONESTLY ONE OF OUR GOALS. TO CONTINUE THAT CLAIMING PROCESS WE RECEIVED, WE APPLIED FOR AND WE RECEIVED THE PROPOSITION 47 GRANT ROUND FOR FUNDING IN THIS PROGRAM WENT LIVE APRIL 1ST OF 2025. IT'S A THREE YEAR GRANT AND IT'S ABOUT $2 MILLION. WE'RE PRETTY EXCITED ABOUT THAT. SUPERVISOR PLUMMER SITS ON OUR ADVISORY COMMITTEE, AND I DIRECTOR GOODWIN WAS RUNNING SOME NUMBERS THIS MORNING IN JUST IN THE SHORT PERIOD OF JUST A LITTLE OVER TWO MONTHS, WE'VE HAD 59 REFERRALS TO THAT PROGRAM, 30 INDIVIDUALS THAT WERE ELIGIBLE IN 19 ENROLLED IN SIX PENDING ENROLLMENT, WHICH IS PRETTY DARN GOOD. THE LAST TIME WE RECEIVED THE PROP 47 GRANT WAS DURING THE PANDEMIC, AND WE SERVED ABOUT 120 OVER THE THREE YEAR PERIOD. SO I ALREADY FEEL LIKE WE'RE MEETING OUR BENCHMARKS IN SOME OF OUR GOALS IN REGARDS TO THE POPULATION WE WANT TO SERVE GOALS FOR. 2526. THIS FIRST GOAL IS SIMILAR TO THE CAL AIM. IT'S KIND OF A TWO YEAR GOAL. WE GOT THE STATE MOBILE SERVICES PROBATION GRANT IN 25 COUNTIES IN THE STATE RECEIVED THIS SHASTA WAS ONE OF THEM. AND I SAY IT'S A TWO YEAR GRANT BECAUSE WE GOT JUST UNDER 300,000 TO PURCHASE A MOBILE PROBATION VAN TO MOBILIZE PROBATION SERVICES. BUT WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH BUCKET FLEET AND WE'VE HAD TO BUILD IT. AND NOW TRY VAN IS BUILDING THE VAN, AND WE'RE HOPING TO RECEIVE IT SOMETIME THIS SUMMER. IF WE GET IT BY THE FALL, WE'LL BE VERY EXCITED. AND SO ONE OF OUR GOALS IS TO RECEIVE THAT VAN AND FULLY IMPLEMENT MOBILE PROBATION SERVICES SO THAT WE CAN REACH THOSE RURAL COMMUNITIES, PROVIDE SERVICES. AND I'VE ALREADY HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS WITH THE SHERIFF IN REGARDS TO HIS NEW ALTERNATIVE WORK SITE AND HOW WE CAN MOBILIZE SOME OF OUR TREATMENT SERVICES TO THAT SITE FOR PEOPLE PARTICIPATING IN THAT PROGRAM. SO WE'RE WE'RE IT'S A WORK IN PROGRESS, BUT WE'RE DEFINITELY GETTING IT AND IMPLEMENTING IT THIS NEXT FISCAL YEAR. AS THE BOARD IS AWARE, MOST ALL OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY ENTITIES IMPLEMENTED A NEW CASE MANAGEMENT SYSTEM, AND THAT'S UP AND RUNNING IN PROBATION AND THRIVING IN. SO WE'RE LOOKING THIS NEXT FISCAL YEAR TO REALLY EXPAND AND ENHANCE THAT SYSTEM. WE WANT TO EXPLORE LOBBY KIOSKS, ESPECIALLY IN OUR ADULT DIVISION, IN OUR COMMUNITY CORRECTIONS CENTER, AS WELL AS WE HAVE A GOAL TO IMPLEMENT AN OFFENDER PORTAL SO THAT THE OFFENDERS CAN LOG IN, ENTER THEIR INFORMATION THAT WILL BE AUTOMATICALLY SENT TO THE PROBATION OFFICER, AS WELL AS IN THEIR CASE NOTES. AND THEN OF COURSE, THE SAME. WE ALWAYS LOOK TO SEE IMPROVEMENTS AND EXPANSION OF REHABILITATIVE SERVICES. I DO WANT TO MENTION I JUST MISSED IT. WHEN I LOOK AT OUR 2425 ACCOMPLISHMENTS, I DO WANT TO HIGHLIGHT OUR DAY REPORTING CENTER HAS BEEN MEDI-CAL CERTIFIED, AND SO THEY HAVE THREE STAFF THAT ARE NOW BILLING FOR MEDI-CAL SERVICES. AND THEY STARTED THEIR TEST CLAIMS APRIL 1ST OF 2025 THIS YEAR. SO THEY'VE STARTED THOSE TESTING CLAIMS IN THE GOAL OF GETTING THEM MEDI-CAL CERTIFIED [01:05:06] IS REALLY TO OFFSET COSTS AND HAVE SOME SAVINGS TO THE CONTRACT, OR POTENTIALLY USE SOME OF THOSE SAVINGS TO EXPAND SERVICES IN THE FUTURE TO OTHER AREAS OR POTENTIALLY ENHANCE THAT CONTRACT. SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT THE DRC HAS BEEN WORKING ON AND I THINK WANT TO SAY WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON IT FOR ABOUT 4 TO 5 YEARS. AND FINALLY, THEY'RE COMPLETELY CERTIFIED AND THEY'VE STARTED THE TEST CLAIMING, WHICH IS PRETTY EXCITING FINANCIALLY. OKAY. BOTH PROBATION BUDGETS ARE CONSERVATIVE IN LINE WITH THE COUNTY BUDGET PRINCIPLES. WE CONTINUE TO DO WHAT WE CAN TO INCREASE REVENUES AND SEEK GRANTS. CONSIDERING OUR TOTAL EXPENDITURES FOR BOTH BUDGETS, WE USE VERY LITTLE GENERAL FUND. YES, THE TWO BUDGETS COMBINED SHOW AN INCREASE. AS NOTED IN THE SLIDE FOUR BY MISS BURTON ON TUESDAY. BUT IT IS IMPORTANT FOR THE BOARD TO KNOW THAT THIS INCREASE ALSO COMES ALONG WITH REVENUE. AS NOTED, WE RECEIVED THE PROP 47 GRANT IN OUR JUVENILE JUSTICE REALIGNMENT BLOCK. GRANT IS COMING IN STRONG. THE 262 BUDGET IS SEEING A DECREASE OF JUST UNDER 600,000 IN GENERAL FUND FROM THE FISCAL YEAR 2425 ADOPTED BUDGET. THE 263 IS SEEN A SMALL INCREASE OF ABOUT 170,000 IN GENERAL FUND FROM THE FISCAL YEAR 2425 ADOPTED BUDGET. THE TWO, SIX TWO AND THE 263 BUDGETS COMBINED INCLUDE AN OVERALL DECREASE OF ABOUT 400,000 IN GENERAL FUND FROM THE FISCAL YEAR 2425 ADOPTED BUDGET. WE CONTINUE TO WORK TO REDUCE OUR IMPACT ON THE GENERAL FUND. I MENTIONED OUR MEDI-CAL ADMINISTRATIVE ACTIVITIES. WE'RE CONTINUING TO DO THOSE CLAIMS AND WORK WITH HHS TO DRAW DOWN THAT REVENUE. WE RECEIVE TITLE. WE DO TITLE FOUR E CLAIMING, WHICH IS ALSO A STATE FEDERAL REVENUE SOURCE. AND SO WE'RE REVIEWING AND IMPROVING AND TALKING WITH STAFFS ON AREAS OF IMPROVEMENTS REGARDING THAT, CLAIMING WE HAVE THREE GRANTS THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY RECEIVING. AS MENTIONED, THE PROP 47 GRANT WHICH IS $2 MILLION OVER THREE YEARS. AND THAT GRANT RUNS UNTIL JUNE OF 2028. AND THEN WE HAVE THE EDWARD BYRNE MEMORIAL JUSTICE ASSISTANT GRANT. WE REFER TO THAT AS OUR JAG GRANT. THAT'S A THREE YEAR GRANT OF ABOUT AND 60,000 IN THAT GRANT IS SOLELY FOCUSED ON COMMUNITY PREVENTION SERVICES FOR YOUNG, YOUNG YOUTH. THAT GRANT CYCLE WILL END IN JUNE OF 2026. AND SO WE'LL MOBILIZE AND START TO WORK ON SUBMITTING A NEW APPLICATION THIS FALL. AND THEN OF COURSE, I MENTIONED THE PROBATION SERVICE, THE PROBATION, THE MOBILE PROBATION VAN, WHICH IS JUST UNDER 300,000. SO THOSE ARE OUR THREE GRANTS. WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR GRANT OPPORTUNITIES AND OPEN TO APPLYING FOR THOSE TO BRING IN ADDITIONAL SERVICES AND REVENUE TO PROBATION. BEFORE I CONCLUDE, I WANT TO PERSONALLY THANK JEN ROSSI AND THE CEO'S OFFICE, AS WELL AS NELDA AND HER TEAM AT THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE. THEY'RE VERY SUPPORTIVE OF PROBATION DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS. A LOT OF THINGS COME UP. WE'RE CONSTANTLY CALLING THEM. CAN WE CHANGE THIS? WE FORGOT ABOUT THIS. AND THEY'RE SUPER FLEXIBLE AND WE REALLY APPRECIATE THEM VERY MUCH AS WELL AS I WANT TO THANK MY INTERNAL FISCAL TEAM, WHICH IS LED BY SHANNON AS WELL AS BRANDI, AND THEN OUR FISCAL UNIT FOR ALL THEIR HARD WORK DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS. THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU SO MUCH, CHIEF NEAL SUPERVISOR KELSTROM. YES, THANKS, CHIEF NEAL, GREAT PRESENTATION. PROBATION OVER IN PROBATION, YOU HAVE DO YOU HAVE MULTIPLE PEOPLE RETIRING OR JUST SOMEBODY THAT'S BEEN THERE FOREVER? SO YES, YOU'VE NOTICED THAT I THINK IN THE 2.63 WE HAVE, WE'RE GOING TO SEE ONE OF OUR LONG TIME DIVISION DIRECTORS RETIRING AS WELL AS POTENTIALLY ANOTHER ONE RETIRING. SO WE HAVE THAT HEIGHT. THE TERMINATION PAY IS HIGH THIS YEAR IN BOTH POTENTIALLY IF THEY DO TERMINATE WE'LL BE LOOKING AT A CASH OUT OF ALL THEIR LEAVE THAT THEY'VE ACCUMULATED WITH THE COUNTY FOR 20 PLUS YEARS. IT'S ALMOST YOUR ENTIRE INCREASE THERE JUST OVER LAST YEAR'S BUDGET. BUT IT IS WHAT IT IS. AND CONGRATULATIONS TO THEM. AND IN SUPERVISOR KELSTROM. I'M TRYING TO KEEP THEM. YOU KNOW, WE WE NEED LONG TERM EMPLOYEES THAT HAVE THAT GREAT KNOWLEDGE AND ARE COMMITTED TO THIS FIELD. BUT I ALSO UNDERSTAND RETIREMENT IS IMPORTANT. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. SO AND MY ONLY OTHER QUESTION OR COMMENT WAS LINE 34 800, [01:10:03] WHICH IS THE PROFESSIONAL AND SPECIAL SERVICES. I NOTICED IT WENT UP ABOUT $1 MILLION OR. WELL, 700,000 FROM LAST YEAR. IS THERE IS THAT NEW PROGRAM THE 263? YES. PROBATION? YEAH. OKAY. LET ME GET THERE. OKAY. YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE 34 800. YES. OKAY. SO WE MOVED SOME FUNDS. IF YOU LOOK AT 35, 100, THE RENTS, LEASES OF EQUIPMENT THAT USUALLY RUNS A LITTLE HIGHER IN OUR GPS CONTRACT, AS WELL AS OUR TATTOO REMOVAL PROGRAM. IN SOME OF OUR SERVICES. WE'RE FALLING UNDER THAT LINE ITEM, AND WE'VE WE'VE MOVED IT AT THE AUDITOR'S REQUEST TO FALL UNDER THE 34,800 PROFESSIONAL SERVICES. SO SOME OF THE TREATMENT THAT WAS SOME OF THE PROGRAMING THAT WAS CHARGED AND OTHERS HAS BEEN CONSOLIDATED TO THAT. I SEE YOU HAD LIKE 226,000 WENT DOWN TO 4000. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU. SUPERVISOR. KELSTROM. SUPERVISOR. PLUMMER. THANK YOU, CHIEF NEAL, FOR THE PRESENTATION. A FEW QUESTIONS. ONE, STARTING ON THE JUVENILE REHABILITATION FACILITY IN THE INFOGRAPHICS, I NOTICED A CHART FOR YOUTH WHO HAVE OBTAINED A DIPLOMA IN CUSTODY, AND IT LOOKED LIKE IT WENT DOWN, AND THEN IT JUMPED WAY BACK UP. I WAS CURIOUS KIND OF WHAT EXPLAINS THAT, YOU KNOW, IT REALLY DEPENDS ON THE POPULATION. A LOT OF YOUTH THAT COME IN THE JRF ARE FAIRLY CREDIT DEFICIENT. AND THEN IT ALSO DEPENDS ON THEIR LENGTH OF STAY IN HOW LONG OUR SCHOOL STAFF HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH THEM. AND THEN IT ALSO DEPENDS ON WHEN THEY COMPLETE. AND SO FOR EXAMPLE, WE JUST HAD A GRADUATION OF THREE YOUTH, JUST LIKE A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, I THINK LAST WEEK. SO THAT WILL BE INCLUDED IN KIND OF THE NEXT YEAR'S DATA. AND SO IT JUST FLUCTUATES. IT ALSO FLUCTUATES DEPENDING ON THE AGE OF THE YOUTH THAT WE HAVE. AND SO FOR EXAMPLE, I WAS LOOKING AT THE BOOKING SHEET YESTERDAY AND WE HAD A 13 YEAR OLD FEMALE. SO DEPENDING ON WHERE OUR POPULATION IS, KIND OF DEPENDS AND DRIVES THOSE GRADUATION RATES. OKAY. THAT MAKES SENSE, ESPECIALLY WITH A SMALLER NUMBER. IF YOU'RE YOUR TOTAL NUMBER OF YOUNG PEOPLE IS IN THE 35 TO 45 RANGE. YEAH. THAT COULD I COULD SEE HOW THE VARIATION WOULD WOULD HAPPEN. THE OTHER ONE WAS AROUND THE MEDICAL EXPENSES. AND IT LOOKS LIKE THAT'S JUMPING LIKE 25% IN THIS COMING YEAR. YEAH, I KNOW HEALTH CARE COSTS DO INCREASE, BUT WAS CURIOUS IF, IF THAT IS CONNECTED TO JUST INFLATIONARY PRESSURES OR IF THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE THAT'S DRIVING THE MEDICAL EXPENSES UP, IF THERE'S ADDITIONAL SERVICES THAT ARE PROVIDING OR SOMETHING. YEAH. SO WE USED TO FALL UNDER THE WELLPATH CONTRACT WITH THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT IN SEVERAL YEARS AGO, WE MADE THE MOVE TO SHASTA COMMUNITY HEALTH CENTER. FOR US, THAT MADE SENSE BECAUSE A LOT OF OUR YOUTH AND FAMILIES ARE ALREADY CUSTOMERS, RECIPIENTS OF THAT SERVICE. AND WITH THAT TRANSITION DID COME AN INCREASE IN THE CONTRACT. AND WE HAVE, I BELIEVE IT'S A 4 OR 5 YEAR CONTRACT WE HAVE WITH THEM. AND WE HAVE A 3% INCREASE EVERY YEAR. AND SO THE COST OF THAT IS REALLY THE INCREASED AND ENHANCED MEDICAL CARE THAT WE'RE GETTING. WE HAVE NURSES, WE HAVE NURSES THAT ARE ON STAFF PRETTY REGULARLY. DOCTOR MCMULLEN IS OUR MAIN PHYSICIAN, AND HE'S ON SITE A COUPLE OF TIMES. THAT INCLUDES DENTAL. YOU KNOW, SO WE HAVE A LOT OF ENHANCED SERVICES AS WELL AS THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, WE'VE SEEN AN INCREASE OF YOUTH REQUIRING TO GO TO THE EMERGENCY ROOM, WHETHER IT WAS A 51, 50 OR OTHER MEDICAL INJURIES, SUCH AS A SEIZURE OR SOMETHING'S HAPPENED THAT HAS REQUIRED A HIGHER LEVEL OF CARE. AND SO IT IS AN EXPENSIVE LINE ITEM. AND WE, WE TRACK IT, BUT IT IS QUALITY SERVICE THAT THE YOUTH ARE RECEIVING IN ALIGNS WITH THE STATE REGULATIONS. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND THAT PROMPTED ACTUALLY ANOTHER QUESTION WAS WHAT'S THE AVERAGE LENGTH OF STAY IN THE. JEFF. YEAH. SO I KNOW I THINK WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS A LITTLE BIT. SO WE CALCULATE THE AVERAGE LENGTH OF STAY WHEN A YOUTH GETS RELEASED. SO WHEN WE DO THE AVERAGE LENGTH OF STAY IT AVERAGES ABOUT BETWEEN 65 TO 90 DAYS. BUT AGAIN, THOSE ARE ON YOUTH BEING RELEASED. SO YOUTH THAT DON'T GET RELEASED. SOME OF OUR SECURE TRACK TREATMENT YOUTH OR SOME OF OUR LONG TERM COMMITMENTS THERE WITH US AND THEIR DAYS WON'T CALCULATE UNTIL THEY GET RELEASED. AND SO FOR EXAMPLE, I PULLED THE INFORMATION. WE HAVE A YOUTH THAT'S BEEN WITH US FOR 1386 DAYS, WHICH IS JUST UNDER FOUR YEARS. [01:15:01] WE HAVE ANOTHER YOUTH THAT'S BEEN WITH US FOR ABOUT 600 DAYS. SO WHEN THOSE YOUTH DO GET RELEASED, THAT WILL COME IN TO THE AVERAGE LENGTH OF STAY. BUT WHEN YOU THINK OF AVERAGE LENGTH OF STAY AND THAT BEING BETWEEN 60 AND 90, 90, THAT'S WHERE THE THE CAL AIM BECOMES VERY SIGNIFICANT FOR US, FOR THOSE KIDS THAT ARE STAYING IN, IF WE KNOW THAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT A SHORTER STAY, WE CAN START THAT PLANNING, THAT 90 DAY PRERELEASE PLANNING AS WELL AS HAVING WHETHER IT'S OUR MEDICAL, OUR CLINICAL, WHATEVER TYPE OF TREATMENT THAT'S BEING PROVIDED TO BE ABLE TO DRAW DOWN THOSE REVENUES BECAUSE THEN PART OF THOSE MEDICAL EXPENSES WILL ACTUALLY BE BILLED TO MEDI-CAL. AND SO WE SHOULD EXPECT, AS THAT IMPLEMENTATION HAPPENS FOR THE MEDICAL EXPENSES TO GO DOWN. I'D LIKE TO SAY THAT IS MY HOPE. SUPERVISOR. PLUMMER. BUT AS WE KNOW, MEDICAL COSTS FROM YEAR TO YEAR ARE EXPENSIVE. AND WHEN WE THINK ABOUT SHASTA COMMUNITY HEALTH CENTER AND THEM WORKING WITH US HAND IN HAND IN CAL AIM IN THAT IMPLEMENTATION, THAT ALONE WILL COME AT A COST BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE AN ADDITIONAL STAFF THAT'S GOING TO HAVE TO DO THAT BILLING. AND DOING THAT AND MAKING SURE EVERYTHING IS IN LINE FOR THOSE CLAIMS. AND SO THAT IS MY HOPE. BUT I CAN'T NECESSARILY SAY THAT THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN OVER THE YEARS AS WELL. AS YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN TO THE EMERGENCY THIS ROOM THIS YEAR PROBABLY ABOUT 15 TIMES. THAT'S NOT A TREND THAT WE NORMALLY SEE. IT REALLY IS DEPENDENT ON OUR POPULATION. AND SO THOSE COSTS VARY AS WELL. THANK YOU. THE I SAW UNDER THE GRF BUDGET THE TRANSFER IN FOR CASH AID GRANTS. AND I WAS KIND OF JUST CURIOUS WHAT THAT IS. AND IS THAT GOING TO THE RESIDENTS OR WHICH IS THAT THE 800 541. YEAH. SO THAT IS OUR RIVER'S EDGE ACADEMY PROGRAM. SO WHEN WE STARTED OUR RA PROGRAM, THAT WAS THE GOAL WAS REALLY TO KEEP YOUTH LOCAL AND PROVIDE LOCAL SERVICES TO SUPPORT A SUCCESSFUL REENTRY AND TRANSITION INTO THE COMMUNITY. AND PRIOR TO RIVER'S EDGE ACADEMY. THOSE YOUTH WERE BEING SERVED AT SHORT TERM RESIDENTIAL TREATMENT PROGRAMS. AND SO WE REALLY DEVELOPED THIS PROGRAM IN IN COLLABORATION WITH AYE THAT THEY WOULD, IN ESSENCE, TRANSFER SOME OF THOSE FUNDS THAT THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN USING TO PAY FOR THOSE OUT OF COUNTY PLACEMENTS TO FUND THE RIVER'S EDGE ACADEMY AND TO KEEP THOSE KIDS LOCAL. OKAY. SO THOSE ARE COMING FROM HHS. OKAY. YEAH. AND SO AS IT SITS TODAY, THE ONLY KIDS THAT WE PLACE OUT OF COUNTY IN THOSE SHORT TERM RESIDENTIAL PROGRAMS IS KIDS WHERE THEY HAVE A TREATMENT NEED THAT EXCEEDS WHAT WE CAN PROVIDE THEM, OR THEY HAVE COMMITTED A CRIME THAT ALSO EXCEEDS OUR CAPACITY. AND USUALLY THOSE TEND TO BE KIDS, YOUTH THAT HAVE OFFENDED SEXUALLY. OKAY. AND THEN A FEW QUICK QUESTIONS ON THE PROBATION BUDGET UNIT. THE THE ONE WAS AROUND SALARIES AND BENEFITS. IT LOOKS LIKE IN THIS CURRENT FISCAL YEAR WE HAD BUDGETED ABOUT 12 MILLION, BUT NOW WE'RE EXPECTING TO ONLY SPEND 9 MILLION. IS THAT RELATED TO VACANCIES CURRENTLY IN THE DEPARTMENT OR OTHER FACTORS? YEAH. YOU KNOW, WE ARE SEEING SOME SALARY INCREASES. AND ACTUALLY IN THE CEO RECOMMENDS THEY'RE ASKING, THEY WANT, THEY'RE RECOMMENDING TO INCREASE THAT, THAT LINE ITEM. A LOT OF THAT HAS TO DO WITH KELSTROM. SUPERVISOR. KELSTROM MENTIONED IT, WE'RE HIRING A LOT OF NEW STAFF AND SO THOSE NEW STAFF ARE COMING IN AT DPI OH ONE IN. SO WE'RE NOT HAVING AS MANY VETERAN STAFF THAT ARE IN THOSE DPI. OH TWO STEP F. AND SO THAT HAS TO DO WITH IT A LITTLE BIT AS WELL. OKAY. I'D LIKE TO SAY OUR SALARIES AND BENEFITS ARE DECREASING, BUT THEY'RE NOT. IT JUST ALL ALIGNS WITH WHO'S WORKING AND WHAT DIVISION AND WHERE THEY ARE AND WHERE. WHEN WE DO HAVE VACANCIES, THOSE VACANCIES SIT OKAY. AND THEN THE THE STATE BOARD OF CORRECTIONS GRANT, WHICH IS GOING UP, WHICH ONE IN TERMS OF THE THREE THAT YOU HAVE ON HERE, IS THAT ONE OF THOSE THREE, OR IS THAT SOMETHING DIFFERENT? SO OUR PROP 47 IN OUR JAG GRANT, THOSE ARE BOTH THROUGH THE BOARD OF STATE AND COMMUNITY CORRECTIONS. AND SO AS WELL AS THE MOBILE PROBATION GRANT. SO ALL THREE GRANTS THAT WE'RE RECEIVING ARE THROUGH THE BSC. OKAY. AND THEN LAST QUESTION, THE REIMBURSEMENT FOR PROBATION OFFICER SCHOOL IS THAT THE ARE THE SCHOOLS THEMSELVES PAYING FOR THE OFFICERS TO BE THERE? THEY DO. SO WE HAVE TRADITIONALLY HAD SIX JUVENILE PREVENTION OFFICERS THIS LAST FISCAL [01:20:02] YEAR. WE'RE DOWN TO FIVE THREE DOWN IN SOUTH COUNTY AND ANDERSON. AND THEN TWO UP IN GATEWAY SCHOOL DISTRICT. THOSE ARE 100% FUNDED BY THOSE SCHOOLS IN THE CONTRACT. AND SO USUALLY AROUND THE SPRING TIME, SCHOOLS ARE REACHING OUT TO US, INQUIRING WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TO HAVE A JUVENILE PREVENTION OFFICER. AND THEN THOSE CONTRACTS USUALLY RUN ABOUT THREE YEARS. SO THE NUMBER OF OFFICERS IS DRIVEN BY THE SCHOOL'S DEMAND FOR IT. AND THEN PROBATION RESPONDS TO THAT. AND YES. YES. OKAY. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. ALL RIGHT. I JUST HAD ONE OF THE THINGS I'M NOT SURE IF THE NEW SUPERVISORS HAVE TAKEN A TOUR, BUT I JUST APPRECIATE SINCE I'VE BEEN AGAIN, THIS IS MY THIRD YEAR. I APPRECIATE THE CHANGES I'VE SEEN IN SOME OF THE REVAMPING OF THE PROGRAM, SO I'M THANKFUL FOR THAT. ONE QUESTION I JUST I DID HAVE ON THE LENGTH OF STAY OF THE INDIVIDUAL. HOW OLD IS THAT INDIVIDUAL? SO I THINK OUR OLDEST YOUTH IS 20. OUR OLDEST INDIVIDUAL, NOT YOUTH IS 2021. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. AND THEN DO YOU SEE, SINCE I HAVEN'T BROUGHT IT UP, WE HAVEN'T EVEN TALKED REALLY MUCH ABOUT IT. BUT IS THERE ANY MORE TRACTION THAT YOU'RE SEEING WITHIN THE THE SYSTEM TO RECLASSIFY THOSE? AND SO I THINK YOU KNOW, IT EBBS AND FLOWS. AND THIS YEAR AND RIGHT NOW, I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALL ON PINS AND NEEDLES WAITING FOR THE FINAL STATE BUDGET. THE GOVERNOR AND LEGISLATIVE BODY. THEIR, THEIR FOCUS SHIFTS. AND SO RIGHT NOW I'M NOT SEEING ANY TRACTION ON ANY CHANGES. AND OVER THE YEARS, AND I'VE BEEN WITH THIS COUNTY SINCE 2012, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF DIFFERENT TRENDS THAT I'VE SEEN OR A LOT OF THINGS I'VE SEEN LEGISLATORS THROW OUT THERE. AND I WOULD SAY AT THIS MOMENT, I'M NOT SEEING ANYTHING THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN POTENTIALLY UNTIL WE GET A NEW GOVERNOR. I DO SUPERVISOR CRYE WANT TO MENTION, YOU KNOW, THE SECURE TRACK TREATMENT POPULATION. BEING HONEST HAS ROCKED OUR WORLD. JUST LIKE WHEN REALIGNMENT STARTED, IT ROCKED THE JAILS WORLD AND CONTINUES RIGHT? WE DIDN'T PLAN TO HAVE THESE YOUTH LONG TERM. YOU KNOW, WE ARE RAISING YOUNG INDIVIDUALS. AND IT'S DIFFERENT. YOU KNOW, OUR FACILITY WASN'T BUILT FOR THAT. I ALSO WANT TO MENTION, WHEN WE THINK ABOUT THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE IN JUST A TREND OF SENDING YOUTH TO THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE. YOU KNOW, I WAS JUST LOOKING AT SOME DATA TO PREPARE FOR TODAY. AND WITHIN LIKE A SIX YEAR PERIOD, WE SENT FIVE. SINCE DJ J CLOSED FOR TEEN YOUTH HAVE BEEN SENTENCED TO THAT PROGRAM. AND SO WE'RE DEFINITELY SEEING AN UPTICK IN JUVENILE CRIME IN SEVERITY. YOU KNOW, AND, AND WE COULD TALK ALL DAY AS TO WHAT THAT'S CONTRIBUTED AND WHY THAT'S HAPPENING, BUT IT IS CAUSING US TO REALLY LOOK AT OUR SERVICES AND, AND REALLY SAY, HOW ARE WE GOING TO RAISE THESE YOUNG PEOPLE? AND IN SOME CASES, THEY'RE SOME OF OUR MOST DIFFICULT AND CHALLENGING KIDS. YOU KNOW, AS WELL AS CONTINUE TO RUN A FACILITY TO MEET THE NEEDS OF ALL THE YOUTH IN CUSTODY, ESPECIALLY CONSIDERING WE HAVE A 13 YEAR OLD FEMALE THAT WAS BOOKED. YOU KNOW, NOW WHEN WE LOOK AT OUR GENDER AND I COMPARED IT TO LAST FISCAL YEAR, THERE'S TIMES WHERE WE ARE 100% MALE WITHIN OUR FACILITY, BUT WE HAVE BEEN TRENDING. I THINK IT WAS LAST FISCAL YEAR, I LOOKED AND I THINK WE'RE ABOUT THE SAME FOR, FOR GENDER WISE. WE WERE, WE WERE NINE FEMALES AND 26 MALES WHEN I STOOD BEFORE THIS BOARD LAST YEAR. AND THIS YEAR WE'RE AT TEN AND 21. BUT THAT ALSO IS A DRIVING FACTOR OF OPERATIONS BECAUSE WE ONLY HAVE 1 OR 2 FEMALES. IT CHANGES SERVICE DELIVERY WITHIN OUR FACILITY OR WHEN WE'RE 100% MALE AND WE GET A FEMALE BOOKING. AND SO TO GET BACK TO YOUR ORIGINAL QUESTION, I'M NOT SEEING ANYTHING RIGHT NOW. THE CHIEF PROBATION OFFICERS OF CALIFORNIA, I DO SERVE AS THE JUVENILE COMMITTEE CHAIR AND I HAVE FOR MANY YEARS. AND SO I'M KIND OF THE FORCE THAT'S DRIVING SOME OF THE CONCERNS WITH OUR STATE ORGANIZATION, SOME OF THE HOT TOPICS AND WHAT'S GOING ON. AND, AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, WE'LL JUST HAVE TO WAIT AND SEE. YEAH. IS ARE THERE STILL IS, ARE WE STILL MOVING IN A DIRECTION WHERE OTHER OUTSIDE ORGANIZATIONS ARE NOT TAKING IN TROUBLED YOUTH INTO LIKE GROUP HOME TYPE SETTINGS? IS THAT STILL IS THAT IS THAT IS THAT STILL HAPPENING? IT KIND OF STAYS STATUS QUO. [01:25:03] YOU KNOW, THE STATE REALLY MAKES IT CHALLENGING, YOU KNOW, JUST BEING HONEST. WHAT I MENTIONED IN REGARDS TO 1051 THAT WENT INTO EFFECT JULY 1ST. PRIOR TO THAT, WE WERE ABLE TO DO PRESUMPTIVE TRANSFERS AND PLACE KIDS VERY QUICKLY. WE CAN'T DO THAT NOW. IT TAKES US MONTHS TO COORDINATE THOSE SPECIALTY MENTAL HEALTH CONTRACTS IN SERVICES TO GET THOSE YOUTH PLACED. AND SO I THINK IT'LL. BUT ARE WE IMPORTING LESS INTO THE. SO I HAVE NOT SEEN THAT. SO REALLY, OUR MAIN SHORT TERM RESIDENTIAL TREATMENT FACILITY IN OUR COMMUNITY IS OPEN LINE. YOU KNOW, AND I HAVEN'T REALLY SEEN ANY INCREASES THERE. WE'VE SEEN A COUPLE OF BOOKINGS IN THE JRF COMING FROM OPEN LINE, BUT THAT'S OUR MAIN FACILITY IN THE LAST TIME THAT I TALKED TO THE STATE IN REGARDS TO THAT FACILITY THEY WERE ON A CORRECTIVE ACTION PLAN. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S HELPFUL. THANK YOU. SUPERVISOR. KELSTROM. YEAH, I'M TRYING TO WRAP MY HEAD AROUND THIS. SO YOU HAVE A 21 YEAR OLD IN THERE NOW, AND YOU COULD HAVE UP TO A 25 YEAR OLD. YES. THEORETICALLY, YES. AND WE HAVE A 36, 26. WE HAVE A 36 YEAR OLD IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT IS SECURE TRACK TREATMENT, YOUTH THAT'S ON SUPERVISION. SO WRAP YOUR HEAD AROUND THAT. YEAH. SO SO JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY, IF THIS 21 YEAR OLD WERE TO ASSAULT STAFF OR ASSAULT ANOTHER JUVENILE IN THERE. YEAH. WHERE WOULD WHERE WOULD THAT GO? WOULD THEY BE TRIED AS AN ADULT THEN? SO CORRECT. SO INTERESTING THAT YOU ASKED THIS QUESTION. SO WE HAVE HAD A COUPLE OF VIOLENT INDIVIDUALS. WE JUST HAD ONE LAST FRIDAY THAT HAD AN ASSAULT ON TWO STAFF AND WE WORKED WITH DALE MARLER AT THE JAIL IN, WE'RE WORKING WITH THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO FILE ADULT CHARGES. AND WE MOVED HIM TO THE JAIL ON THAT NEW CASE. THAT'S ONE WAY TO GET RID OF HIM, I GUESS. SO, YEAH, YOU KNOW, THE GOAL, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE THINK ABOUT THAT, IT'S VERY STRATEGIC IN PLANNING BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE HELD. AND THEY DON'T GET RELEASED WHEN WE TAKE THAT ACTION BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT BEHAVIOR TO, TO IMPACT IN ANY WAY, BUT POSITIVELY AND NOT NEGATIVELY. WELL, I HOPE STAFF WAS NOT HARMED TOO MUCH. YEAH. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. SEEING NO OTHER QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. OKAY. THAT'S IT. ARE YOU SURE? OKAY. YES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALL RIGHT. MOVING ON. WE NOW HAVE PUBLIC DEFENDER ASHLEY JONES COMING ON. COME ON UP. WELCOME. GOOD MORNING. LET'S SEE. OKAY. GOOD MORNING, CHAIRMAN CRYE. MEMBERS OF THE BOARD AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ABOUT THE PUBLIC DEFENDERS BUDGET FOR THE 2526 FISCAL YEAR. I APPRECIATE THE CONTINUED SUPPORT OF OUR DEPARTMENT BY BOTH THIS BOARD AND COUNTY ADMINISTRATION. OUR MISSION AT THE PUBLIC DEFENDER'S OFFICE IS TO PROVIDE HIGH QUALITY, EFFICIENT LEGAL DEFENSE SERVICES TO INDIVIDUALS WHO LIBERTY IS AT STAKE AND WHO ARE UNABLE TO AFFORD AN ATTORNEY. WE EMPLOY A HOLISTIC, CLIENT CENTERED APPROACH, MEANING WE ADDRESS NOT ONLY OUR CLIENT'S IMMEDIATE LEGAL NEEDS, BUT ALSO MANY OF THE UNDERLYING FACTORS, SUCH AS SUBSTANCE ABUSE AND MENTAL HEALTH, WHICH CONTRIBUTE TO JUSTICE SYSTEM INVOLVEMENT. THIS APPROACH REDUCES OVERALL JUSTICE SYSTEM COSTS AND IMPROVES PUBLIC SAFETY WHILE REDUCING RECIDIVISM BY TACKLING THE ROOT CAUSES OF CRIMINAL BEHAVIOR. WE ALSO ENSURE GOVERNMENT ACCOUNTABILITY AND INSTILL A SENSE OF TRUST IN OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM BY ENSURING FAIRNESS AND DUE PROCESS FOR ALL. EVERY YEAR, OUR DEPARTMENT HANDLES THOUSANDS OF MATTERS CRIMINAL, JUVENILE AND CRITICAL CIVIL MATTERS SUCH AS GUARDIANSHIPS AND CONSERVATORSHIPS. OUR STAFF WORKS TIRELESSLY TO PROTECT THE CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS OF EVERY PERSON IN THIS COMMUNITY. NOW, LAST YEAR, THE DEPARTMENT HAD A SEVERE STAFFING SHORTAGE, LOSING NINE ATTORNEYS AND OTHER KEY STAFF, INCLUDING OUR CHIEF INVESTIGATOR AND OUR STAFF SERVICES MANAGER. AS THIS BOARD IS AWARE, THAT DIRECTLY IMPACTED OUR DEPARTMENT'S ABILITY TO ACCEPT FELONY CASES FOR AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF TEN MONTHS. IN RESPONSE TO THESE STAFFING CHANGES, WE UNDERTOOK A STRATEGIC INTERNAL RESTRUCTURING, PLACING MORE RESPONSIBILITY ON OUR INVESTIGATORS, SOCIAL WORKERS, AND CLERICAL STAFF. OUR INVESTIGATORS NOW CONDUCT INITIAL JAIL INTERVIEWS WITH EACH NEW IN CUSTODY FELONY CLIENT, THE INVESTIGATOR OBTAINS CRITICAL INFORMATION ABOUT THE CASE, [01:30:05] ABOUT POTENTIAL WITNESSES OR EVIDENCE THAT MAY NEED TO BE LOCATED. RELEVANT SOCIAL BACKGROUND INFORMATION SUCH AS VETERAN STATUS, MENTAL HEALTH, DIAGNOSIS, ETC. THEY FOLLOW UP ON ANY LEADS, ATTEMPT TO CONTACT WITNESSES, OR SECURE TIME SENSITIVE EVIDENCE LIKE VIDEO SURVEILLANCE, AND THEY PREPARE ALL OF THIS INFORMATION IN A REPORT WHICH IS PROVIDED TO THE ASSIGNED DEPUTY PUBLIC DEFENDER FOR THE FIRST SUBSTANTIVE COURT APPEARANCE. THIS CHANGE HAS ALLOWED OUR ATTORNEYS TO BETTER ASSESS THE STRENGTHS AND WEAKNESSES OF THEIR CASE AT AN EARLY STAGE, WHICH IN TURN PLACES THEM IN A MUCH BETTER POSITION TO NEGOTIATE WITH THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY AT AN EARLIER STAGE IN THE COURT PROCEEDINGS, RESULTING IN EARLY AND MORE JUST RESOLUTIONS TO CONTINUE IMPROVING ON THIS MODEL, WE ARE REQUESTING THE ADDITION OF TWO POSITIONS AN INVESTIGATIVE TECHNICIAN AND ONE PARALEGAL. THESE POSITIONS WILL SUPPORT EARLY CASE RESOLUTION AND EASE OUR ATTORNEY WORKLOADS, IMPROVING THE OVERALL EFFICIENCY OF OUR DEPARTMENT, AND BOTH POSITIONS WILL BE FUNDED BY OUR AB 109 RESTRICTED FUND BALANCE, RESULTING IN NO INCREASED FROM GENERAL, EXCUSE ME, FROM THE GENERAL FUND. THERE ARE TWO SIGNIFICANT PROGRAM CHANGES THAT WE WILL BE ADDRESSING THIS FISCAL YEAR. THE FIRST IS RELATION RELATING TO PROP 36. SINCE JANUARY 1ST, OUR DEPARTMENT HAS RECEIVED OVER 60 FELONY CASES, WHICH ARE A DIRECT RESULT OF THE CHANGES IN THE LAW CREATED BY PROP 36. THIS HAS RESULTED IN A SIGNIFICANT WORKLOAD INCREASE FOR OUR FELONY ATTORNEYS AND SOCIAL WORKERS. IN RESPONSE TO THESE CHANGES, WE ARE WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH OUR JUSTICE AND COMMUNITY PARTNERS AND HHS TO CREATE SORT OF A STREAMLINED PROCESS FOR HOW TO DEAL WITH THESE CASES AND HOW TO CREATE A TREATMENT REFERRAL PROCESS AS MANDATED UNDER THE LAW. ANOTHER KEY CHALLENGE THAT WE ARE FACING RELATES TO OUR INEFFICIENT CASE MANAGEMENT SOFTWARE SYSTEM. UNFORTUNATELY, OUR CASE MANAGEMENT SYSTEM IS SIMPLY NOT PRACTICAL FOR A LEGAL LAW FIRM, AND IT DOES NOT INTEGRATE WITH EITHER THE COURT OR THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. WE ARE REQUESTING TO MOVE TO THE SAME CASE MANAGEMENT SYSTEM USED CURRENTLY BY THE PROBATION DEPARTMENT AND THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. WE BELIEVE THAT THIS CHANGE WILL HELP STREAMLINE CASE PROCESSING, RESULT IN FEWER COURT DELAYS CAUSED BY DATA EXCHANGE ISSUES BETWEEN THE DEPARTMENTS, AND ULTIMATELY IMPROVE THE PRODUCTIVITY AND LEVEL OF SERVICE PROVIDED BY OUR OFFICE. WHILE CHANGING TO A NEW SOFTWARE SYSTEM WILL REQUIRE SOME INITIAL UPFRONT COSTS, THERE ARE THE ANNUAL LICENSE FEES WE EXPECT TO BE SIGNIFICANTLY LESS, AND THE OVERALL EFFICIENCY AND IMPROVEMENT IT WILL CREATE TO OUR WORKFLOW PROCESSES MAKE IT A WORTHY INVESTMENT. ADDITIONALLY, THE CEO'S OFFICE HAS APPROVED ADDITIONAL FUNDS FROM THE ROBBINS CRIMINAL JUSTICE FUND FOR THIS PROJECT TO HELP MINIMIZE THE IMPACT ON THE GENERAL FUND. DESPITE OUR MANY CHALLENGES, I AM VERY PROUD OF THE WORK AND ACCOMPLISHMENTS THAT OUR TEAM HAS HAD OVER THIS PAST YEAR. WE'VE SEEN AN INCREASE IN MENTAL HEALTH AND SUBSTANCE ABUSE PLACEMENT OUTCOMES DURING THE LAST BUDGET CYCLE. WE HAD 52 CLIENTS SUCCESSFULLY COMPLETE INPATIENT TREATMENT, WHICH REPRESENTS A 13% INCREASE OVER THE PAST FISCAL YEAR. WE HAVE 37 ADDITIONAL CLIENTS WHO ARE STILL CURRENTLY IN TREATMENT, WHO SIMPLY HAVEN'T GRADUATED YET. 36 CLIENTS WERE GRANTED MENTAL HEALTH DIVERSION, FIVE WERE GRANTED VETERANS DIVERSION, AND THREE CLIENTS WERE GRANTED DUAL AGENCY DIVERSION, WHICH IS A DIVERSION PROGRAM THAT TYPICALLY PARTNERS WITH FAR NORTHERN REGIONAL REGIONAL CENTER. INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE GRANTED DIVERSION HAVE BEEN ASSESSED BY THE COURT AND AFTER CONSIDERING THE INPUT FROM THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY, HAVE BEEN DEEMED TO BE SAFE TO TREAT IN THE COMMUNITY. MANY OF THESE INDIVIDUALS WOULD OTHERWISE BE INCARCERATED. WHEN SPEAKING TO SOME OF THE JAIL STAFF A FEW MONTHS AGO, AND IN PREPARATION FOR OUR EARLIER PRESENTATIONS, I LEARNED THAT THE DAILY RATE TO HOUSE AN INMATE IN SHASTA COUNTY FOR THE 2223 FISCAL YEAR RAN ABOUT $161 A DAY. SO BY IDENTIFYING THESE INDIVIDUALS AND GETTING THEM TREATED IN THE COMMUNITY RATHER THAN SITTING IN A JAIL CELL, WE ARE HELPING TO SAVE THE COUNTY A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY. WE'VE ALSO MADE SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENTS IN STAFF TRAINING. WE NOW OFFER A STRUCTURED ON ROAD ONBOARDING PROGRAM FOR NEW HIRES WITH A DEDICATED TRAINER. WE HAVE ONGOING WEEKLY TRAININGS FOR MISDEMEANOR ATTORNEYS AND THOSE TRANSITIONING TO FELONY PRACTICE. WE PROVIDE REGULAR IN-HOUSE CONTINUING LEGAL EDUCATION. AND WE CONTINUE TO PURSUE ADVANCED TRAINING OPPORTUNITIES AND SCHOLARSHIPS WERE POSSIBLE. JUST THIS WEEK, I WAS NOTIFIED THAT OUR DEPARTMENT RECEIVED A $3,100 SCHOLARSHIP TO HELP OFFSET THE COST OF SENDING THREE OF OUR MISDEMEANOR DEPUTIES TO STANFORD FOR A TRIAL [01:35:01] TRAINING SKILLS THIS SUMMER. AS FOR STAFFING, WE'VE MADE TREMENDOUS PROGRESS REBUILDING THE PUBLIC DEFENDER'S OFFICE. WE HAVE FILLED EVERY SUPERVISORY, INVESTIGATIVE AND CLERICAL POSITION WITH THE HELP OF SUPPORT SERVICES. WE WERE ABLE TO CREATE THAT NEW LAW CLERK POSITION. WE'VE EXPANDED OUR ACADEMIC OUTREACH, POSTING THAT BULLETIN ON LAW SCHOOLS THROUGHOUT THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA, OREGON, WASHINGTON AND NEVADA. WE PARTICIPATED IN THE PUBLIC INTEREST LAW CAREER FAIR LAST FALL AND A RESULT OF THOSE EFFORTS, WE HAVE A BAR CERTIFIED LAW STUDENT WHO HAS RELOCATED FROM BERKELEY TO REDDING FOR THE SUMMER TO VOLUNTEER WITH OUR DEPARTMENT. HIS NAME IS MICHAEL. HE'S DOING A FANTASTIC JOB, BY THE WAY. I'VE ALSO BEEN WORKING WITH SUPPORT SERVICES THIS PAST WEEK TO SIGN UP FOR VARIOUS LAW SCHOOL ON CAMPUS RECRUITING PROGRAMS, WHICH WILL HAPPEN IN THE FALL. THEY CAN ACTUALLY DO INTERVIEWS AT THE LAW SCHOOLS AT THOSE TIMES. WITH THE ANTICIPATION THAT THE INDIVIDUAL WOULD START EITHER IN THE SUMMER OR AFTER TAKING THE BAR THE FOLLOWING YEAR. WE'VE ALSO WORKED DILIGENTLY TO FOSTER A POSITIVE AND SUPPORTIVE WORKPLACE CULTURE, WHERE STAFF FEEL VALUED AND PART OF A LARGER MISSION. WE'VE IMPLEMENTED REGULAR STAFF MEETINGS TO INCREASE COMMUNICATION AND TEAM BUILDING. WE PARTICIPATED IN SEVERAL OFFICE WIDE COMMUNITY SERVICE EVENTS, SUCH AS ADOPT A FAMILY AND SERVING A MEAL AT THE GOOD NEWS RESCUE MISSION. OUR LONGTIME LOCAL COUNTY STAFFS ARE INTRODUCING SORT OF OUR TRANSPLANT STAFF TO MANY OF THE COMMUNITY EVENTS AND TRADITIONS LIKE REDDING RODEO. AND WE ARE ALSO USING OUR STAFF'S SORT OF EXTRACURRICULAR TALENTS AND INTERESTS IN WAYS TO IMPROVE OFFICE PERFORMANCE AND MORALE. ANOTHER SIGNIFICANT ACCOMPLISHMENT THAT I'M HAPPY TO REPORT TO THIS BOARD IS THAT WE WILL NOT BE SEEKING A RENEWAL OF OUR CONTRACT WITH AARON WILLIAMS FOR INDIGENT DEFENSE SERVICES THIS COMING FISCAL YEAR. WE DO HAVE FIVE REMAINING VACANCIES WITH OUR DEPUTY PUBLIC DEFENDER'S ONE, TWO, THREE. ALTERNATIVELY, STAFF POSITION THAT DOES REPRESENT A 31% VACANCY RATE, WHICH IS NO HIGHER THAN THE OVERALL PROFESSIONAL RATE AS A WHOLE. HOWEVER, WE HAVE, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, FILLED FOUR ATTORNEY POSITIONS. WE HAVE ANOTHER ATTORNEY WHO'S BEEN ON AN EXTENDED LEAVE WHO WE ANTICIPATE COMING BACK AT THE END OF THE MONTH. WE HAVE AN ATTORNEY WHO IS CURRENTLY IN BACKGROUND, AND WE ARE USING EVERY AVAILABLE RESOURCE AND OPPORTUNITY AND PERSONAL CONNECTION THAT WE CAN TO TRY TO GET FULLY STAFFED. DURING THE PERIOD WHEN WE WERE NOT ACCEPTING FELONY CASES, WE SIGNIFICANTLY CLEARED OUT THE BACKLOG, RESOLVING MANY SERIOUS AND COMPLEX MATTERS BY CLEARING THOSE SORT OF OUT OF OUR OUR WORK QUEUE. WE FEEL CONFIDENT THAT WE CAN TAKE ON MORE RESPONSIBILITY AT THIS TIME, EVEN THOUGH WE DO STILL HAVE LIMITED STAFF. IT'S CERTAINLY GOING TO BE CHALLENGING AND A BIT UNCOMFORTABLE DURING THE NEXT SEVERAL MONTHS AND THIS TRANSITION PERIOD. BUT WE HAVE AN INCREDIBLE, DEDICATED TEAM WHO WANTS TO SEE OUR OFFICE UP AND RUNNING AT FULL SPEED, AND WHO WANTS TO SERVE OUR COMMUNITY TO THE BEST OF OUR ABILITY. OUR GOALS FOR THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR INCLUDE IMPLEMENTING THE NEW CASE MANAGEMENT SYSTEM TO IMPROVE THE OVERALL OVERALL EFFICIENCY OF OUR DEPARTMENT, TO SEEK TIMELY CASE RESOLUTIONS AND MINIMIZE DELAYS TO THE EXTENT POSSIBLE. WE WILL MAINTAIN TARGETED RECRUITMENT EFFORTS AND PROVIDE HIGH QUALITY TRAINING. ONE SPECIFIC GOAL INVOLVES PARTNERING WITH THE CALIFORNIA PUBLIC DEFENDER'S ASSOCIATION TO HOST A REGIONAL PUBLIC DEFENDER, TRAINING FOR SISKIYOU, HUMBOLDT AND SHASTA COUNTY, WHICH WE BELIEVE WILL BE LOCATED HERE IN REDDING, CALIFORNIA. AND WE CONTINUE TO INCREASE OUR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, WE'LL HAVE AN INCREASED FOCUS ON EXPANDING MENTAL HEALTH AND SUBSTANCE ABUSE PLACEMENTS. I WILL WORK TO STRENGTHEN OUR PARTNERSHIPS WITH TREATMENT PROVIDERS, COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS OR OTHER COUNTY PARTNERS TO STREAMLINE RELATED COURT PROCESSES AND COLLABORATIVE EFFORTS. WE DO HOPE TO LAUNCH OUR FIRST EXPUNGEMENT CLINIC THIS FALL TO HELP MANY OF OUR CLIENTS OVERCOME JUSTICE RELATED BARRIERS TO HOUSING AND EMPLOYMENT, WHICH ARE KEY FACTORS IN MAINTAINING A PRO-SOCIAL LIFESTYLE. OUR GOAL AS A DEPARTMENT IS TO NOT ONLY MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN THE COURTROOM, BUT TO MAKE A POSITIVE IMPACT IN OUR COMMUNITY. NOW, OUR OUR COUNTY'S DEPARTMENT IS A CONSTITUTIONALLY MANDATED GENERAL FUND DEPARTMENT. OUR RECOMMENDED BUDGET DOES SEEK AN INCREASE FROM THE GENERAL FUND OF ABOUT 2% FROM LAST YEAR TO HELP REDUCE THE IMPACT OF OUR GENERAL FUND USE. WE HAVE RESTRUCTURED INTERNALLY OUR. SOME OF OUR RESPONSIBILITIES TO BETTER UTILIZE AND GENERATE REVENUE FROM OUR WHAT I WOULD CALL A USE IT OR LOSE IT GRANT FROM THE BCS, B SEC. EXCUSE ME, PILOT GRANT. AND WE ARE STRATEGICALLY USING OUR DISCRETIONARY AB 109 RESTRICTED FUND BALANCE FOR CAPITAL PROJECTS AND ADDITIONAL POSITIONS. WE CURRENTLY HAVE ONE GRANT FROM THE BOARD OF STATE COMMUNITY CORRECTIONS. [01:40:02] THIS GRANT IS LIMITED IN SCOPE TO CASES THAT ARE COMING BACK TO COURT FOR CONSIDERATION OF RESENTENCING. UNDER VARIOUS CHANGES IN THE LAW THAT HAVE OCCURRED OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS. THAT GRANT WILL RUN THROUGH DECEMBER OF 2026. IN CONCLUSION, OUR OFFICE REMAINS DEEPLY COMMITTED TO PROVIDING EFFICIENT, HIGH QUALITY LEGAL REPRESENTATION WHILE ADDRESSING THE ROOT CAUSES OF CRIMINAL BEHAVIOR. I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE INCREDIBLE WORK OF OUR STAFF AND THE DEDICATION AND THE TIME THEY PUT IN. THE EMPLOYEES OF THE PUBLIC DEFENDER'S OFFICE, BOTH PAST AND PRESENT HAVE SHOWN SO MUCH COMMITMENT TO PUBLIC SERVICE AND SELF SACRIFICE. I JUST THINK THAT THIS BOARD SHOULD BE AWARE OF THAT. AND WITH YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT, WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO A VERY SUCCESSFUL FISCAL YEAR. ANY QUESTIONS? SUPERVISOR. THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. VERY INFORMATIVE. I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS. WHEN YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE NOT ACCEPTING FELONIES FOR THAT PERIOD OF TIME, I IMAGINE THOSE WENT TO THE CONFLICT OUT. SO TO AN OUTSIDE COUNSEL, I'M JUST CURIOUS ABOUT WHAT THE REDUCTION MAYBE OF YOUR STAFF BECAUSE YOU HAD A HIGH TURNOVER OF ATTORNEYS, IT SOUNDS LIKE. YES. AND THAT WHAT KIND OF COST IS COMPARATIVE TO DOING IT IN-HOUSE AND THEN HAVING TO CONFLICT IT OUT? AND IS THAT MUCH MORE EXPENSIVE WHEN YOU HAVE LOWER STAFF? SO ESSENTIALLY THE CONTRACT THAT WAS ENTERED INTO IT TOOK THE UNUSED SALARIES FROM ALL OF THOSE VACANCIES. AND THERE WAS A BUDGET AMENDMENT WHICH PUT THAT IN OUR SERVICES AND SUPPLIES OBJECT LEVEL. AND THAT WAS PAID INITIALLY. IT WAS A $2.1 MILLION CONTRACT THAT WAS PAID TO HANDLE A SET NUMBER OF CASES DURING THAT TIME PERIOD PER CASE. IT'S A PRETTY IT'S A PRETTY HEFTY DOLLAR AMOUNT. OUR OFFICE, IN ADDITION TO THE ATTORNEY SERVICES WE PROVIDE, PROVIDES A LOT OF OTHER SERVICES, SUCH AS WITH OUR SOCIAL WORKERS, INVESTIGATORS AND OTHER THINGS, BECAUSE THOSE CASES ARE STILL ONGOING. I DON'T KNOW THAT WE WILL HAVE SORT OF THE FINALIZED TOTAL OF WHAT THAT COST US UNTIL ALL THOSE THOSE BILLS ARE IN. SO ALL OF THE INVESTIGATOR SERVICES OR EXPERT WITNESSES OR THINGS FOR THOSE CASES THAT WERE FARMED OUT ARE STILL GOING TO COME TO OUR DEPARTMENT FOR OUR BUDGET, BUT WE HAVEN'T SEEN THOSE FULL COSTS MATERIALIZE YET. SO I DO BELIEVE OVERALL IT WOULD BE MORE EXPENSIVE, LESS EFFICIENT TO KEEP THAT SYSTEM IN PLACE LONG TERM TO KEEP THE CONFLICT BECAUSE OF YOUR STAFFING SHORTAGES. THAT WOULD BE MORE EXPENSIVE THAN TO DO EVERYTHING IN HOUSE IF YOU WERE FULLY STAFFED. CORRECT. SO I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY, THERE'S SORT OF TWO THINGS. WE HAVE OUR DEPARTMENT. I KNOW THERE WAS A SLIDE, I THINK, PRESENTED ON TUESDAY THAT INDICATED SOME AMOUNTS FOR HIRING OUTSIDE COUNSEL, AND IT WAS LABELED PUBLIC DEFENDER. THAT RELATES SPECIFICALLY TO A CONTRACT THE COUNTY HAS ENTERED INTO FOR CONFLICT PUBLIC DEFENDER SERVICES. THAT'S NOT PART OF OUR BUDGET UNIT. I DON'T HAVE ANY CONTROL OR ACCESS OVER THAT OR ANY PART OF THE CONTRACT NEGOTIATING PROCESS FOR THAT. THIS YEAR, WE ENTERED INTO A SEPARATE AGREEMENT WITH THAT SAME SERVICE PROVIDER TO TAKE ON ADDITIONAL CASES. NORMALLY, THAT SERVICE PROVIDER ONLY TAKES CASES WHERE THE PUBLIC DEFENDER'S OFFICE HAS AN ETHICAL CONFLICT, WHEREAS, YOU KNOW, WE REPRESENT A CLIENT, BUT THAT CLIENT IS ALSO A VICTIM IN ANOTHER CASE. AND SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. NO, NO, I, I APPRECIATE THAT. AND WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR WAS THE COST OF MAYBE THAT'S THE WRONG WORD CONFLICT OUT, BUT DUE TO STAFFING SHORTAGES WITHIN YOUR UNIT, IT ENDS UP BEING METTED OUT TO A DIFFERENT ENTITY THAT, AND I'M JUST TRYING TO GET A COMPARISON OF THE COST OF THAT OUTSIDE SERVICE, BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE THE STAFFING TO COMPLETE THIS WORK VERSUS IF YOU WERE HAD FULLY STAFFED AND PAID. RIGHT. I THINK IT WOULD TAKE A MORE IN-DEPTH ANALYSIS THAN I AM CAPABLE OF TO PROVIDE YOU SPECIFIC FIGURES, BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT OUR ATTORNEYS MAINTAIN HANDLE MUCH HIGHER VOLUMES OF CASES WHEN WE ARE FULLY STAFFED THAN THE CONFLICT ATTORNEYS DO. AND I THINK WE ARE CAPABLE OF PROVIDING EXCELLENT SERVICES FOR A LOWER COST. OKAY. AND YOU SPOKE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE TURNOVER IN YOUR ATTORNEY STAFF, THE NUMBER OF ATTORNEYS THAT LEFT. WHAT ABOUT YOUR OTHER STAFF, LIKE YOUR LEGAL SECRETARIES AND SOME OF THOSE THINGS? HAVE YOU EXPERIENCED A LOSS OF THAT PORTION OF YOUR WORKFORCE? WE HAVE. SO IN JANUARY OF 2024, I LEFT ON A MATERNITY LEAVE AND THEN BEGAN EMPLOYMENT WITH THE COUNTY COUNSEL'S OFFICE FOR A PERIOD OF MONTHS. WHEN I RETURNED, SEVERAL OF THOSE LEGAL SECRETARY POSITIONS HAD CHANGED WITH NEW [01:45:01] INDIVIDUALS. SO I DON'T KNOW THE CAUSES OF THOSE. THAT TURNOVER HAPPENED BEFORE I WAS THERE. WE'VE BEEN VERY FORTUNATE THAT SINCE I'VE BEEN THERE, WE HAVE LOST ONE LEGAL PROCESS CLERK, BUT OUR LEGAL SECRETARIES HAVE REMAINED. BUT IT IS A POSITION WITH A FAIRLY HIGH TURNOVER RATE. OKAY. THANK YOU. BEFORE I OH, ARE YOU OUT? SUPERVISOR. PLUMMER. OKAY. YOU WERE IN Q, CUBA, WEREN'T YOU? OKAY. SO YOU TOOK. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I WASN'T SEEING IT. SO ON THAT SAME NOTE BECAUSE I KNOW THIS IS YOUR THIRD STINT. CORRECT? IN THE PUBLIC DEFENDER'S OFFICE, YOU WERE THERE AND HAD LEFT AND THEN CAME BACK AND THEN LEFT AND THEN AND NOW YOU'RE OBVIOUSLY IN CHARGE. AND THE CULTURE HAS GREATLY CHANGED. I HOPE SO. WELL, I KNOW, SO JUST BECAUSE OF LOOKING AT RETENTION AND WHERE PEOPLE MOVE AND IT'S TOTALLY NORMAL WHEN, WHEN SOMEBODY NEW COMES IN FOR THERE TO BE A SHIFT. SO AND I KNOW YOU HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO DO. YOU'VE BEEN THERE HOW LONG? SINCE NOVEMBER 4TH. OKAY. SO NOT A REALLY, REALLY LONG TIME. AND THEN GOING THROUGH THE BUDGET FOR YOUR FIRST TIME. I REALLY WANT TO APPLAUD YOU FOR MOVING TOWARDS HIRING INTERNALLY AND BUILDING YOUR OWN TEAM. AND YOU MENTIONED SOMETHING THAT I THOUGHT WAS REALLY NOT JUST INSIGHTFUL, BUT I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT, YOU SAID YOUR OTHER ATTORNEYS ARE LEANING ON RELATIONSHIPS AND CONNECTIONS TO OTHER ATTORNEYS. UNPACK THAT A LITTLE BIT, LIKE WHAT YOU MEANT BY THAT, BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO ASSUME I WANT TO WELL, I CAN JUST TELL YOU THAT THE WORK IS PRETTY HARD. YOU DEAL WITH A LOT OF DIFFICULT SUBJECT MATTER. YOU SEE A LOT OF UGLINESS. YOUR CLIENTS HAVE EXPERIENCED A LOT OF TRAUMA. IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO GO THROUGH THIS WORK IN ISOLATION. AND SO WE ARE TRYING TO CREATE AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE YOUR ATTORNEYS AND YOUR WHOLE STAFF FEEL SUPPORTED. AND THAT CAN BE SILLY, SILLY THINGS. WE DID A LUNCHTIME VIEWING OF THE NEW SHERRI PAPINI DOCUMENTARY WITH POPCORN AND JUST THINGS TO BRING THE COMMUNITY OF OUR OFFICE TOGETHER. WE ARE SMALL ENOUGH WHERE IT'S ALMOST LIKE A FAMILY. OUR DOORS ARE ALWAYS OPEN. YOU CAN GO TO ANY ATTORNEY AND GET ADVICE, SEEK COUNSEL ON AN ISSUE. BUT WE'RE BIG ENOUGH THAT WE HAVE A COLLECTIVELY A LARGE AMOUNT OF KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE. AND SO THERE'S USUALLY SOMEONE IN THE OFFICE WHO YOU CAN LEARN FROM. AND WE'RE TRYING TO HIGHLIGHT PEOPLE'S STRENGTHS AND MAXIMIZE THOSE STRENGTHS WHILE SUPPORTING AREAS WHERE THEY MAY. EXCUSE ME, MAY NEED IMPROVEMENT. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I'M A BASKETBALL COME FROM A BASKETBALL FAMILY. SO IF YOU'VE GOT CERTAIN LINEUPS STARTING LINEUP, YOU MIGHT NEED TO SHIFT YOUR OFFENSE TO MAXIMIZE THE STRENGTHS OF THOSE PLAYERS. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE. YEAH. AND I CAN APPRECIATE THAT. I KNOW SUPERVISOR HARMON AND I HAVE SPOKE QUITE A BIT. WE DON'T HAVE A TON OF EMPLOYEES BETWEEN US, MAYBE A COUPLE HUNDRED. BUT WORKPLACE CULTURE IS PARAMOUNT. AND I HAVE SEEN SINCE NOVEMBER JUST FROM THE LITTLE INTERACTION. AND AGAIN, BECAUSE I KNOW THERE WERE PEOPLE FROM THE PUBLIC DEFENDER'S OFFICE THAT COUNTY COUNCIL WAS ABLE TO BRING THEM TO COUNTY COUNSEL'S OFFICE. AND NOW SOME OF THEM HAVE GONE BACK OVER. SO I APPRECIATE THE WORK YOU'RE DOING AND THE ATTORNEYS IN THAT OFFICE AND THE CULTURE YOU'RE CREATING, BECAUSE NOT HAVING TO OUTSOURCE CONFLICT AND ALL OF THAT STUFF IS A, IS A MASSIVE SAVINGS TO THE COUNTY. AND I JUST APPLAUD YOU. SUPERVISOR. HARMON. I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU. NICE PRESENTATION. I KNOW IT WAS YOUR FIRST ONE. WE'RE STARTING OUR OWN BASKETBALL TEAM. WE GOT ONE OVER THERE. OKAY. KEEP UP WITH YOU. BUT BUT NO, I, I DO, I DO APPRECIATE LEADERSHIP AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'VE ATTAINED BY PUTTING YOU IN THERE IN CHARGE OF THAT. AND I AND THAT TEAMWORK IS, IS WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT. RIGHT. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. SEEING NO OTHER QUESTIONS. ANYBODY ELSE? NOPE. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, MOVING ON. I JUST SIT DOWN WITH CHIEF O'HARA. YOU. YOU HELPED HIM UP HERE, SO WHO KNOWS WHERE HE'S GOING? YEAH. SO HE DIDN'T FALL DOWN. YOU DON'T WANT TO FALL. SUPERVISOR. HEY, SHERIFF. I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW SUPERVISOR HARMON GOT IN QUEUE BEFORE YOU STARTED SPEAKING, SO RIGHT OFF THE BAT, HE'S ALREADY IN THERE. ALL RIGHT. WELCOME. STEPHANIE, PLEASE. YEAH. OH, THERE IT IS. YOU ALWAYS KNOW BECAUSE TIM MAPES ALWAYS HAS THE GRAPHICS AND ALL THE ALL THE ACTUALLY CHEER THAT IT'S ALL ME IS THAT I'VE BEEN DOING THAT FOR A LONG TIME. YEAH. OKAY. SO THANK YOU, CHAIR SUPERVISOR. THANKS FOR HAVING US HERE. YEAH. SO WE'RE GOING TO GET KIND OF A JOINT PRESENTATION FROM ME. I'M GOING TO START OFF BY HIGHLIGHTING SOME OF THE KEY THINGS THAT AARON HAD LAID OUT [01:50:03] THAT WANTED TO BE HIGHLIGHTED. AND THEN MIKE LINDSEY IS GOING TO FOLLOW UP AND GIVE YOU ACTUAL NUMBERS AND ALL THE DIFFERENT COST CENTERS, TRY TO BREAK SOME OF THAT DOWN A LITTLE BIT MORE. AND I ALSO HAVE UNDERSHERIFF GENE RANDALL HERE WHEN WE GET TO QUESTIONS AND MAYBE EVEN LATER ON THE HEARING AND PUBLIC COMMENT. SO I WANT TO START OFF WITH OUR MISSION AND OUR PURPOSE. THAT HAS NOT CHANGED. IT'S OUR WE'RE COMMITTED TO IMPROVING THE QUALITY OF LIFE IN PARTNERSHIP. DEFINITELY A KEY IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE COMMUNITY THAT WE SERVE THROUGH FAIR AND ETHICAL LAW ENFORCEMENT SERVICES. THAT SLOGAN SERVICE WITH PRIDE AND EXCELLENCE DOES MEAN A LOT TO US, AND WE TRY TO ACHIEVE THAT, ALWAYS TRYING TO RAISE THAT BAR. AND NO MATTER WHAT THE IS GOING ON IN THE COUNTY, WITH STAFFING, WITH THE JAIL, WITH ALL THE OTHER PRESSURES OF THE JOB, IT'S OUR MISSION TO DO OUR JOB AND TO DO IT WELL AND TO PROTECT OUR CITIZENS. AND THAT MEANS A LOT TO US. STEPHANIE, I'M MAKING SURE I GOT ALL THE GOOD GRAPHICS GOING FOR YOU. OKAY. AS FAR AS OUR STAFFING GOES, 234 FULL TIME EMPLOYEES. WE HAVE APPROXIMATELY 400 VOLUNTEERS, LARGELY COMPRISED OF SEARCH AND RESCUE, BUT ALSO OUR CITIZEN PATROLS AND OUR VARIOUS VOLUNTEERS THAT COME INTO THE DIFFERENT DIVISIONS IN OUR ORGANIZATION. CURRENTLY, 29 TOTAL VACANCIES. AND THAT NUMBER CHANGES ALMOST DAILY BECAUSE OF HIRING AND AND DEPARTURES AND SEPARATIONS FROM EMPLOYMENT. BUT THAT GIVES YOU A ROUGH IDEA OF WHERE WE'RE AT BETTER NOW THAN IT HAS BEEN IN THE PAST. JUST TO LOOK AT OUR ORGANIZATIONAL CHART AGAIN FOR YOU, THERE'S THE DIFFERENT DIVISIONS. A COUPLE OF THOSE ANSWERED DIRECTLY TO THE OFFICE OF THE SHERIFF, AND THAT IS THE CORONER'S OFFICE THAT YOU SEE UP THERE AND THE CIVIL UNIT. THE OTHER FOUR MAJOR DIVISIONS ARE BROKEN OUT, AND THERE'S AN ADDED DIVISION WHICH WASN'T ON THERE LAST YEAR, WHICH WE ADDED, AND THAT'S THE INVESTIGATIVE SERVICES. AND THAT HAS BEEN PART OF A TRANSITION INTO BETTER STAFFING AND RECRUITMENT AND HAS EQUALED A LOT OF THINGS, WHICH I'LL COVER HERE IN A MINUTE. AND SO I WANT TO GO OVER THROUGH SOME OF THOSE SIGNIFICANT ACCOMPLISHMENTS. BODY WORN CAMERA PROGRAM. THIS ONE WAS SUPPORTED BY YOU, BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND A DEFINITE WANT IN THE COMMUNITY AND A WANT BY ME AS WELL. I WAS HOPING THAT THE STATE OR THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WOULD AT SOME POINT FUND THIS UNFUNDED KIND OF MANDATE PRESSURE, BUT THEY NEVER HAVE. SO HERE WE GO. YOU HAVE COME UP WITH THE MONEY FOR US TO IMPLEMENT THIS PROGRAM. WE HAVE SECURED THE EQUIPMENT AND WE'LL HAVE THE FIRST CAMERAS ROLLED OUT HERE IN JULY. AND IT'S A VERY EXTENSIVE PROGRAM, AND THAT'S BEEN PUT IN THE HANDS OF THE UNDERSHERIFF. AND HE HAS BEEN ALMOST SOLELY RESPONSIBLE FOR GETTING THAT TOGETHER, IMPLEMENTING MIRRORING OFF OF OUR PD AND GETTING THAT PROGRAM GOING. HAPPY TO SEE THAT THAT ONE COMING OUT CATCH A PREDATOR OPERATIONS, WHICH WE HAVE JUST STARTED, KIND OF JUST SHOWED YOU THAT DIVISION OF THE INVESTIGATIONS HAS EXPANDED AND GOT THEIR OWN DIVISION. WE'VE DEDICATED MORE STAFF, MORE DETECTIVES TO THE MAJOR CRIMES UNIT. AND BECAUSE OF THAT, THE UNDERSHERIFF AND I HAVE JUST REALLY SUPPLIED THE INFRASTRUCTURE. AND CAPTAIN CHRIS EDWARDS OF THE INVESTIGATIVE DIVISION HAS REALLY ROLLED OUT THE CATCH A PREDATOR PROGRAM. AND WE ARE. IT'S ALMOST LIKE SHOOTING FISH IN A BARREL, UNFORTUNATELY. IT'S. THAT'S NOT A POSITIVE THING PER SE, ABOUT. WE HAVE THAT MANY PREDATORS, BUT WE ARE HOLDING THEM ACCOUNTABLE AND MAKING ARREST. THAT'S GOING VERY WELL. SOMETHING GOOD IN OUR COMMUNITY. BOMB TEAM UPGRADES. THIS. WE HAD OBSOLETE BOMB TEAM EQUIPMENT. AS YOU KNOW, WE ARE KIND OF THE HUB FOR THE NORTH STATE HERE IN SERVING OUR SURROUNDING COUNTIES THAT LACK A BOMB TEAM. SO WE'VE HAD TO UPGRADE SUITS AND MOST RECENTLY A NEW BOMB ROBOT, WHICH WAS A VERY EXPENSIVE PIECE OF EQUIPMENT BUT ALSO VERY NEEDED. WE HAD A 2530 YEAR OLD BOMB ROBOT, WHICH WASN'T VERY EFFECTIVE ANYMORE. SO OUR SURROUNDING COUNTIES THAT WE SERVE ALL PITCHED IN AND WITH THE HELP OF SIERRA PACIFIC INDUSTRIES, WERE ABLE TO AFFORD THAT ROBOT AND GOT THAT ONLINE AND WORKING WELL. INVESTIGATIONS DIVISION ALREADY TALKED ABOUT EXPANDING. THAT'S A FEATHER IN OUR CAP NORTHERN EXPANSION PROJECT. AS YOU KNOW, WE MOVED TO THE NEW SOUTH COUNTY OAS BUILDING AND HAVE WITH THE HELP OF JEN AND SOME OTHERS HAVE SECURED THE LAND AND ARE LOOKING AT EXPANDING THAT AND MOVING ALL OF OUR EQUIPMENT AND OPERATIONS OUT INTO ONE LOCATION. BIG BOOST FOR MORALE AND FOR THE AGENCY. CORONER'S OFFICE REMODEL. THIS IS KIND OF A FEATHER IN THE CAP AND THORN IN THE SIDE RIGHT NOW, [01:55:01] BECAUSE WE'RE EXPERIENCING ALL KINDS OF UNFORESEEN PROBLEMS, BUT IT BEING REMODELED AND EXPANDED WAS WAY OVERDUE AND ALSO A GOOD THING THAT'S GOING ON. CHP CANNABIS TAX GRANT. I'M NEW. I KNOW I'M MOVING FAST. I'M PROBABLY GOING TO GET A TEXT FROM MY WIFE AGAIN SAYING I'M TALKING TOO FAST. THE THE CHP CANNABIS TAX FUND GRANT, WE WERE AWARDED 474,000 THROUGH CHP THROUGH THIS GRANT. AND IT FUNDED DUI PREVENTION, EDUCATION ENFORCEMENT EFFORTS AND CAMPAIGN SOBRIETY CHECKPOINTS, DUI OPPORTUNITIES, ALL GOOD FOR OUR COMMUNITY. THIS IS A BIG ONE HERE. THE ID LAB AND THE 3D CRIME SCENE IMAGE SCANNER. THANKS TO COUNTY ADMINISTRATION ACROSS THE BOARD FOR FINDING THE MONEY FOR THIS ONE. WE'RE GOING FROM WHEN WE HAVE A CRIME SCENE, WHICH COULD TAKE SOMETIMES UP TO TWO DAYS TO SKETCH OUT AND LAY OUT A CRIME SCENE NOW TAKES 5 TO 10 MINUTES WITH A 3D SCANNER AND IT'S LITERALLY SET IN THERE. SCANS THE WHOLE AREA. PRODUCES A A 3D IMAGE ON A COMPUTER WHERE YOU CAN DO ALL YOUR MEASUREMENTS JUST FROM LINES CONNECTING AND COMES UP AUTOMATICALLY FOR YOU. INCREDIBLE PIECE OF EQUIPMENT. QUITE A CHANGE IN OUR ID LAB. I ALREADY MENTIONED OPENING OF SOUTH COUNTY AIR STATION, WHICH MOST OF YOU WERE THERE FOR. EXPANDED OUR K9 UNIT, ADDED A DOG AND A HANDLER MOTOROLA SYSTEM UPGRADE. ANOTHER FEATHER AND THORN. IT'S BEEN ROUGH, BUT IT'S IT'S GOING. WE'VE. WE'VE GOT TWO SITES. TWO OF OUR REPEATER SITES HAVE ALREADY BEEN UPGRADED, AND THE OTHER ONES ARE IN QUEUE TO GET DONE AS WELL. THAT'S A TYPO THERE. THAT SHOULD SAY BSC WELLNESS GRANT. WE'VE PUT THAT MONEY INTO PLAY AND UPGRADED THE FITNESS CENTERS, WEIGHTS AND FITNESS CENTERS AND ALL OUR DIVISIONS, INCLUDING BERNIE AND SOUTH COUNTY AND, CITY OF SHASTA LAKE. IT'S ALL PUTTING THAT MONEY TO GOOD USE FOR THE. OUR FOLKS. SINTEF MET AB 109. CAN'T BE UNDERSTATED. I KNOW THAT YOU ALL BEEN SUPPORTED. THIS BOARD AND THE BOARD PRIOR, ESPECIALLY OF THE MET TEAM AND SINTEF. HAPPY TO SAY THAT ANDERSON POLICE DEPARTMENTS COME BACK ON BOARD WITH SINTEF. SOME OF OUR OTHER PARTNERS ARE STRUGGLING TO BECAUSE OF STAFFING AND TO PUT SOMEBODY OUT THERE, BUT IT HASN'T DIMINISHED THE WORK OF THE SINTEF TEAM. THESE THREE UNITS, THE AB 109 TEAM, WHICH WE'VE ALSO STOOD UP AGAIN BECAUSE WE'VE GOT STAFFING GOING SO WELL, THESE THREE ARE ALL HOUSED IN THE SAME BUILDING AND ASSIST ONE ANOTHER WITH OPERATIONS ACROSS THE BOARD. I COULD TELL YOU THESE ARE VERY AGGRESSIVE AND PROACTIVE GROUPS OF PEOPLE OUT THERE WHO ARE DOING A LOT OF WORK THAT ARE PRODUCING RESULTS IN OUR COMMUNITY. AND WE'RE HAPPY THAT YOU SUPPORT THEM AND HAPPY THAT THOSE TEAMS ARE GOING STRONG. AND THEN FINALLY, LATERAL DEPUTY RECRUITMENT. REALLY A TESTAMENT TO OUR FOLKS AT OUR AGENCY WHO HAVE GONE OUT. WE'VE WE'VE WE'VE CHANGED. I HEARD YOU TALKING ABOUT CULTURE A LITTLE BIT. CHAIR, WE'VE CHANGED THE CULTURE OF OUR ORGANIZATION AND WE'VE GOT PEOPLE WANTING TO COME TO US. WE GOT A FEW FROM OUR PD, TOOK PAY CUTS. VERY SEASONED OFFICERS, 10 TO 12 YEAR OFFICERS WHO PROVIDED ARE NOW PROVIDING GOOD LEADERSHIP AND EXPERIENCE IN THE MIDDLE RANKS, WHICH WE WERE MISSING. WE'VE HAD LATERALS COME FROM TEHAMA, FROM LOS ANGELES, FROM VEGAS. WE'VE GOT A GOOD GROUP OF PEOPLE COMING IN. IT'S GOING VERY WELL. VERY PROUD OF THAT. THE MEN AND WOMEN ARE USING THEIR CONNECTIONS, SHOWING THE THE PEOPLE THAT THEY WORK WITH AND GETTING PEOPLE THROUGH THE DOOR AT OUR AGENCY. SO SOME OF THE PROGRAM CHANGES, IF I ALREADY MENTIONED ABOUT RPD. RPD IS STILL NOT THERE, BUT APD CAME BACK. OUR OTHER ALLIED AGENCIES ARE COMMITTED. JUST JUST LIKE WE WERE WHEN WHEN STAFFING IS DIFFICULT AT YOUR HOME AGENCY, IT'S DIFFICULT TO SEND SOMEBODY OUT TO THAT UNIT. BUT THE PROGRAM IS STILL GOING STRONG AND THEIR RELOCATION AT THEIR NEW BUILDING IS BEEN A BIG DEAL AND IS COMPLETE. AND WE'RE HAPPY WITH THAT. THE CORONER'S OFFICE THAT SEE THAT WORD UNSUCCESSFUL THERE THAT WAS PUT IN AT I HAD THE WORD FAILURE. AND JEN TOLD ME THAT IT SHOULD BE MORE UNSUCCESSFUL. SO WE'LL GO WITH UNSUCCESSFUL. WE TRIED A NEW LEADERSHIP MODEL, AND WE'RE TRYING TO MOVE THAT FROM A SWORN LIEUTENANT RUNNING THAT TO A MORE CIVILIAN BASED SPECIALTY THAT WAS UNSUCCESSFUL. NOT. AND I SAY THAT VERY HUMBLY BECAUSE I TRY THINGS. [02:00:04] WE TRY THINGS AS A COMMAND STAFF. THEY DON'T ALWAYS WORK. YOU HIRE ME TO, TO BE A PROBLEM SOLVER AND SOLVE PROBLEMS. I'M NOT AFRAID TO ADMIT WHEN I'M UNSUCCESSFUL. THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF IT. IT JUST MEANS I HAVE TO TWEAK THAT AND FIND A DIFFERENT AVENUE TO BECOME SUCCESSFUL, WHICH WE'RE WORKING ON NOW. WE ARE ON THE VERGE OF A STAFFING CRISIS AT THE CORONER'S OFFICE. I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT IS NOT BECAUSE OF LEADERSHIP THERE. THAT IS BECAUSE PEOPLE MOVING ON AND CAREER ENHANCEMENT AND FINDING OTHER AVENUES NOW THAT THEY ARE VERY WELL TENURED IN THE CORONER'S FIELD. IT'S A IT'S A VERY NICHE ENVIRONMENT AND IT'S DIFFICULT TO FIND PEOPLE IN THERE. AND WE'RE GOING TO BE DEALING THAT WITH THAT. WHEN I'M TALKING WITH YOU. BOARD LATER AS THE YEAR DEVELOPS HERE. COUNTY WIDE MS. SYSTEM RECORDS MANAGEMENT SYSTEM IS STILL A DISASTER IN MY ASSESSMENT, AND MY PATROL DEPUTIES AND STAFF AT THE JAIL AND STAFF ACROSS THE BOARD WILL TELL YOU THE SAME THAT THAT SYSTEM, THE P ONE SYSTEM BOUGHT OUT BY MOTOROLA FROM SPILMAN IS NOT GOING WELL, AND I DON'T HAVE VERY MUCH GOOD TO SAY ABOUT IT. BUT AGAIN, IT'S ONE OF THOSE PROGRAM CHANGES THAT THAT NEED. AND ONE OF THOSE UNSUCCESSFUL VENTURES THAT I'M TRYING TO WORK OUT AND MOVE FORWARD JAIL REMODEL AND FLUCTUATING STAFF ISSUES, THE PROBLEMS, THE PROBLEM WITH JAIL AND STAFFING IS NOT RECRUITMENT ANYMORE. IT'S RETENTION. AND EVEN WHEN WE WERE AT ALMOST WELL FULLER STAFFED THAN WE'VE EVER BEEN, WE HAD SEVERAL PEOPLE OUT ON FMLA OR INJURIES OR TIME OFF OR STRESS OR WHATEVER IT WAS THAT IS STILL CHALLENGING, BUT WE ARE GETTING THE PEOPLE THROUGH THE DOOR AND COMING TO US. IT'S JUST HOLDING ON TO THEM. AND, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT A REMODEL THAT'S IN FULL SWING AND THE ELEVATORS AND THE SURVEILLANCE SYSTEM AND THE WHAT DO YOU CALL IT? VIDEO ARRAIGNMENT SYSTEM, ALL, ALL WORKING AT THE SAME TIME. SO WE'RE WE'VE GOT SOME STRUGGLES WITH THAT COMING UP NEXT FEW MONTHS AS WELL. SO THAT'S MY OVERVIEW. MY QUICK OVERVIEW. HOW IS THAT GIN. IS THAT GOOD. OKAY. SHE'S KEEPING ME ON TIME FRAME. SO I'M GOING TO BRING UP MIKE LINDSAY. NOW THAT WILL GO OVER SOME OF THE COST CENTERS AND THE ACTUAL NUMBERS. AND BOTH UNDERSHERIFF AND I WILL REMAIN AROUND FOR QUESTIONS AT THE END. THANK YOU. WELCOME. GOOD MORNING CHAIRMAN. MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. MIKE LINDSAY, DEPUTY DIRECTOR FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF ADMINISTRATION FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU A QUICK OVERVIEW. WE HAVE 17 COST CENTERS FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. NINE OF THOSE RESIDE WITHIN THE TWO, THREE, FIVE ROLL UP. AND THEN WE HAVE EIGHT ADDITIONAL COST CENTERS. THEY COVER THE SCOPE OF ALL OF OUR OPERATIONS AND SERVICES, AND OUR TOTAL RECOMMENDED EXPENDITURES THAT WERE REQUESTED. THIS YEAR IS JUST UNDER $97 MILLION. BUT OF THAT 97 MILLION, THERE IS 15.44, I BELIEVE, 15.44 MILLION IN CAPITAL PROJECTS. SO THAT IF YOU REDUCE THE CAPITAL PROJECT EXPENDITURES FROM THAT REQUEST, IT'S 81.5 MILLION. AND A LARGE PART OF OUR EXPENDITURES, OF COURSE, ARE SALARIES AND BENEFITS. IF WE IF WE DON'T FACTOR IN CAPITAL PROJECTS, OUR AVERAGE OR ACROSS ALL OUR COST CENTERS IS 58.3% FOR SALARIES AND BENEFITS. HOWEVER, THERE IS SOME FLUCTUATION ON THAT. ONE OF OUR LOWER ONES IS THE JAIL. EVEN THOUGH IT'S A VERY LARGE BUDGET AND THERE IS A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF SALARIES AND BENEFITS, THERE'S ALSO A LOT OF OPERATIONAL COSTS, A LOT OF COST DRIVERS IN THE SERVICES AND SUPPLIES THAT THAT MAKE THAT PERCENTAGE LOWER. JUXTAPOSE THAT TO SAY OUR PATROL DIVISION, WHICH IS 86.1%, IS OUR SALARIES AND BENEFITS. AND SO THE AVERAGE, I WOULD SAY IS 58.3. WE HAVE 32% OF THE REQUESTED BUDGET. IF YOU REMOVE CAPITAL PROJECTS ON ALL OF THESE IS FOR OUR SERVICES AND SUPPLIES, 5.6% IS FOR THE OTHER CHARGES AND OR EXCUSE ME, 6.6% FOR OTHER CHARGES. THE CAPITAL ASSETS AS A PERCENTAGE OF ALL EXPENDITURES IS 18.1% OF THE BUDGET. WE DO HAVE TWO CAPITAL ASSET REQUESTS, STEPPING ASIDE FROM CAPITAL PROJECTS TO CAPITAL ASSETS. ONE OF THEM IS A REBUDGET IN FISCAL 2526 FOR A BOAT THAT WE HAVE A GRANT FROM THE STATE FOR. IT'S ACTUALLY A FEDERAL DOLLARS THAT FLOW THROUGH THE STATE. [02:05:01] AND WE PERIODICALLY DO GET REPLACEMENT BOATS FOR OUR BOATING SAFETY UNIT. SO THAT IS IN THERE. AND THEN ALSO A REQUEST FOR A NEW CIVIL SOFTWARE FOR OUR CIVIL UNIT TO RECEIPT EVERYTHING THAT COMES IN AND MANAGE ALL OF THE COLLECTIONS AND ALL OF THE PAYMENTS THAT GO OUT. AS OUR CURRENT SYSTEM IS VERY LABOR INTENSIVE AND DOESN'T HAVE VERY GOOD SUPPORT FROM THE VENDOR. WE HAVE A NUMBER OF GRANTS THAT THE SHERIFF ALREADY TALKED ABOUT. AND WE DO ACTIVELY LOOK FOR AND PURSUE THOSE GRANTS. I KNOW THE UNDERSHERIFF HAS TASKED OUR GRANT WRITER WITH INVESTIGATING A COUPLE OF COPS GRANTS, WHICH IS COMMUNITY ORIENTED POLICING SERVICES GRANTS THROUGH THE U.S. DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE. KEEPING IN MIND THAT SOME OF THESE GRANTS ARE FEDERAL FUNDING, AND SOMETIMES THAT AT THE PRESENT MOMENT CAN BE UP IN THE AIR. BUT WE DO RECEIVE FUNDING FOR OUR BOATING SAFETY UNIT. SUBVENTION GRANTS, STATE FUNDING. THAT AMOUNT HAS BEEN THE SAME FOR, FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS, $584,990. AND AS EXPENSES HAVE GONE UP, THAT'S PAID FOR LESS AND LESS OF THE PROGRAM. BUT WE, AS I ALREADY SPOKE OF, WE DO RECEIVE EQUIPMENT GRANTS. WE HAVE OUR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT PERFORMANCE GRANT, WHICH HELPS US TO OFFSET SOME OF THE COSTS OF RUNNING OUR OFFICE OF EMERGENCY SERVICES. THOSE GRANTS HAVE BEEN TRENDING DOWN A LITTLE BIT, BUT WE'RE TALKING IN THE SMALL THOUSANDS GOING DOWN. THE CHP CANNABIS GRANT, WHICH THE SHERIFF SPOKE ABOUT OUR GRANT WRITER JUST INFORMED US YESTERDAY THAT WE DID RECEIVE NOTIFICATION THAT WE ARE GOING TO GET ANOTHER GRANT IN THIS NEXT FISCAL YEAR. SO THAT WILL BE GOOD. I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT THE DETAILS OF THAT YET, BUT WE'LL BE ABLE TO CONTINUE OUR DUI PRESENCE PAID FOR WITH THAT GRANT. SO THAT HELPS THE COMMUNITY AND HELPS EDUCATE THE COMMUNITY THROUGH OUR MEDIA PROGRAMS THAT WE DO THROUGH THAT WE RECEIVE SOME LOCAL GRANTS ON OCCASION WHEN WE'RE ABLE TO GET THOSE. SOMEBODY TURNED ME UP. WE RECEIVED CALMETTE FUNDING WHICH IS THROUGH THE STATE, WHICH IS FOR THE DRUG TASK FORCE. WELL, ACTUALLY FOR OUR PORTION OF THE DRUG TASK FORCE. AND THEN WE HAVE SEXUAL ASSAULT FELONY ENFORCEMENT FUNDING, AND WE ARE THE FIDUCIARY FOR THAT. AND THERE ARE A NUMBER OF AGENCIES THAT PARTICIPATE IN THAT GRANT, AND WE MANAGE THAT FOR THOSE AGENCIES. ONE OF THE LARGER GRANTS THAT WE RECEIVED IS A PART THREE GRANT FOR THE CAL AIM PROGRAM FOR THE 90 DAY PRERELEASE SERVICES IN THE JAIL FOR MEDI-CAL. THAT WAS A $3.5 MILLION GRANT AWARD. AND A LARGE PORTION OF THE EXPENDITURES FOR THAT ARE FOR A CONSULTANT TO HELP GUIDE US INTO GETTING ALL OF OUR SYSTEMS AND PROCESSES SET UP FOR THAT WHEN IT GOES LIVE. OUR GO LIVE DATE FOR THAT IS NO LATER THAN MARCH 31ST OF 2026. SO IT'S GOING TO BE HERE BEFORE WE KNOW IT. THERE'S, THERE'S A SUBSTANTIAL NUMBER OF PROGRAMS THAT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE DOES RUN. YOU KNOW, AS CHIEF O'HARA MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, WE'RE SIMILAR TO FIRE. THERE'S A LOT OF THE STUFF THAT WE DO THAT JUST HAD DOLLAR SIGNS TO IT BECAUSE IT COSTS A FAIR AMOUNT OF MONEY TO RUN A SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT. BUT THAT IS THE GENERAL OVERVIEW FOR FISCAL YEAR 2526 RECOMMENDED BUDGET. IT WILL HAVE A TOTAL OF 239 FTES AND POSITION CHANGES THAT WE HAVE REQUESTED NET TO MINUS MINUS ONE POSITION. BUT THERE'S A FEW CHANGES IN THE SHERIFF'S 235 BUDGET DELETING AND ADDING POSITIONS THAT NETS TO ZERO. WE'RE DELETING A BOATING SAFETY OFFICER IN THE BOATING SAFETY BUDGET, A SHERIFF'S SERVICE OFFICER IN THE JAIL BUDGET, AND WE'RE ADDING AN AUTOPSY TECHNICIAN IN THE CORNERS BUDGET, WHICH WILL GREATLY ENHANCE OUR ABILITY TO ASSIST THE PATHOLOGIST WHILE NOT IN INTRUDING ON TIME FOR OUR DEPUTY CORONER INVESTIGATORS. AS THE SHERIFF MENTIONED, WE ARE APPROACHING A POTENTIAL STAFFING CRISIS THERE. SO CERTAINLY IF WE CAN HIRE THAT POSITION, THAT WILL THAT WILL HELP US IN THAT AREA. BUT THAT'S A GENERAL OVERVIEW. IF YOU WANT ME TO GET INTO ANY SPECIFICS RELATED TO ANY OF THE INDIVIDUAL BUDGETS I MEAN, I CAN SAY OUR NET COUNTY COST AS REQUESTED IS $46.4 MILLION. AFTER WE ACCOUNT FOR PROP 172 REVENUE, WHICH IS 14.42% OF THE BUDGET. [02:10:01] AND THEN OUR OTHER RECOMMENDED REVENUES, WHICH IS JUST JUST OVER 36%. TO SPEAK A LITTLE BIT TO OUR CURRENT YEAR NET COUNTY COST. SO THE ADOPTED BUDGET WAS $43 MILLION, NET COUNTY COST. AND OUR ESTIMATE RIGHT NOW IS APPROXIMATELY 41.5 MILLION. SO ABOUT A MILLION AND A HALF SAVINGS IS WHERE WE ESTIMATE WE WILL FALL AT THE END OF THE YEAR. SO. WELCOME. ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. SUPERVISOR. HARMON. ARE YOU WAITING? OR IS IT SUPERVISOR LONG ARE YOU GUYS WAITING? YEAH, I WAS, I PUT THAT UP THERE WHEN SHERIFF JOHNSON WAS ON THERE. SO YOU WANT YOU WANT TO PICK ON SHERIFF JOHNSON. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND I'M GLAD THAT YOU'RE IN CHARGE OF THE MONEY AND NOT HIM. NO. I'M JUST. MIKE, DON'T COMPARE US TO FIRE. YEAH, ONLY IN THE RESPECT THAT WE COST MONEY AS WELL. I WOULD LIKE TO SAY, SERIOUSLY THAT I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE AS A BUSINESSMAN. AND YOU'RE IN THE BUSINESS OF TAKING CARE OF, YOU KNOW, OUR SAFETY AND THE BAD GUYS IN OUR COMMUNITY. BUT I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THE TEAMWORK. THAT'S WHAT MAKES IT ALL WORK. IT'S THE IT'S THE ABILITY. AND I KNOW AS A LEADER, YOU'RE NOT TAKING CREDIT FOR IT BECAUSE ALL THOSE PEOPLE THAT YOU'RE WORKING FOR. BUT I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU CREDIT FOR THOSE PEOPLE THAT ARE IN CHARGE UNDERNEATH YOU BECAUSE IT'S KEEPING IT'S KEEPING ALL THEM GOING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION, BUT CREATING THAT ATMOSPHERE THAT MAKES THEM WANT TO DO WHAT THEY DO. AND, AND I APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THOSE COMMENTS. YOU'RE RIGHT. I, I TAKE CREDIT FOR ALL THE, THE PROBLEMS, BUT WHEN ALL THE SUCCESSES ARE THEM FOR SURE, IT DOES TAKE A TEAM. YOU ALL KNOW THAT ANYBODY'S BUSINESS KNOWS THAT AND IT'S NICE. AND ONE OF THE THINGS I TELL EACH ONE OF MY COMMAND STAFF IS IF I HAVE TO MICROMANAGE THEM, THEN I DON'T NEED THEM BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE TIME FOR THAT. AND THEY ALL KNOW THEIR JOBS VERY WELL. AND WHEN THEY NEED THE SUPPORT OR NEED TRAINING OR NEED DIFFERENT ASPECTS, WE ALL COME TOGETHER AND TRY TO SUPPORT EACH OTHER. SO I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS THERE. SUPERVISOR. WELL, AND IT HAS TO DO WITH BEING A GOOD LISTENER, AS A AS A LEADER. I'M NOT I'M NOT PREACHING AT YOU. I'M TELLING YOU WHAT YOU ALREADY KNOW. IT'S LIKE I'VE DONE A LOT OF PROJECTS OUT THERE SUCCESSFULLY AND NOT BECAUSE I'M EINSTEIN, BUT BECAUSE I'VE RECRUITED THE RIGHT PEOPLE AND LISTENED TO THEM AND THEIR. AND THAT'S WHERE ALL YOUR GREAT LEADERSHIP. LOOK, HE'S SMILING RIGHT THERE BECAUSE WE KNOW HE KNOWS ABOUT THE MONEY, NOT YOU. THAT'S ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. BUT HIM AND HER AND THE REST OF THE ACCOUNTING UNIT. YOU BETCHA. YEAH. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. YEAH. BEFORE WE GO TO SUPERVISOR LONG, I JUST WANT TO ECHO THAT. THAT WHAT I REALLY APPRECIATE IS GOING EVEN BACK TO THE WHAT WAS THE SYSTEM, THE CASE MANAGEMENT ONE THAT YOU PIONEERED AND IT WAS. MS.. YEAH, YEAH. I MEAN, BUT YOU TOOK I MEAN, YOU TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THAT. AND I THAT THAT JUST GOES SUCH A LONG WAY BECAUSE NO ONE ELSE IN YOUR OFFICE GETS TO PASS THE BUCK WHEN THEY SEE THAT LEADERSHIP OF YOU TAKING RESPONSIBILITY FOR CHOICES YOU MADE THAT DIDN'T WORK OUT. SO I APPRECIATE THAT SUPERVISOR LONG. THANK YOU CHAIR. THANK YOU, SHERIFF, FOR THAT GREAT PRESENTATION. MIKE, APPRECIATE THE INFORMATION. I JUST WANTED TO TALK TO YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE BODY CAM PROGRAM. THAT'S THAT'S ROLLING OUT SOON IN JULY. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ANOTHER PRESENTATION. I'LL LET THE UNDERSHERIFF COME UP WITH THAT BECAUSE THAT'S HIS PROGRAM. HE'S GOING TO HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION. OKAY. YES. OKAY. THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT. THANK YOU. SUPERVISOR. PLUMMER AND KELSTROM. ARE YOU GUYS GOOD WITH SUPERVISOR OR WITH UNDERSHERIFF RANDALL? PRESENTING. OKAY. ALL RIGHT, YOU'RE UP, SIR. OH, OKAY. SO AS FAR AS THE BODY CAM PROGRAM, IT'S BEEN ABOUT A YEAR IN THE MAKING. CURRENTLY, WHERE WE ARE WITH THE UPDATE IS WE'VE PROCURED ALL THE EQUIPMENT. WE WORKED WITH IT TO GET OUR DOCKING STATIONS AT EACH OF THE SUBSTATIONS THAT ARE AFFECTED, WHERE OUR EMPLOYEES ARE GOING TO BE USING THESE. WE'VE TAKEN PROCUREMENT, LIKE I SAID, AND WE'RE GETTING READY TO ISSUE SOME OF OUR TEST CAMERAS. THEY'RE ACTUALLY OUT IN CIRCULATION RIGHT NOW AND WE'RE DEMOING THOSE. WE HAVE AXON IS GOING TO BE OUR VENDOR AND TRAINER. THEY'RE HOSTING A TRAIN THE TRAINER EVENT NEXT MONDAY. AND FROM THERE, WE'RE LOOKING AT A TARGET DATE OF JULY 1ST TO HAVE MORE OF OUR DEMOS OUT IN PLACE AND TO BE IN FULL SWING WITH OUR PROGRAM. OUR POLICIES ARE THROUGH MEET AND CONFER AND HAVE BEEN PUBLISHED IN OUR LEXIPOL SYSTEM. AND WE HAVE A SYSTEM CALLED PLANET WHERE WE'RE ABLE TO PUSH OUT UPDATES TO OUR EMPLOYEES AND UPDATE THEM AS FAR AS WHAT THE POLICIES REGULATIONS ARE, AND MAKE SURE THAT WE SCHEDULE THE TRAINING SO THAT WHEN WE DO DEPLOY THE CAMERAS, THEY'RE ACTUALLY USED CORRECTLY. WELL, I'LL GET BACK IN LINE. NO, NO. GO AHEAD. I DIDN'T TAKE YOU OUT. YOU PULLED YOURSELF OUT. SO GO AHEAD. YOU CAN START SINCE YOU WERE IN CUE. I DIDN'T LOSE MY [02:15:02] PLACE. NO. IT'S OKAY, I CAN I CAN KEEP UP. IT'S. IT'S FOUR NAMES. I JUST GOT TO SEE THEM. GO AHEAD. THANK YOU, UNDERSHERIFF RANDALL, FOR FOR THAT INFORMATION. SO WHAT I UNDERSTAND IS, IS AND I WAS LOOKING AT THE POSITION CHANGE REQUESTS IN THE OVERALL BUDGET. AND WHAT I UNDERSTAND WITH THE BODY CAM IS IT'S GOING TO BE ONE LIEUTENANT AND TWO YOUR EQUIVALENT OF OUR CSOS AT OUR PD SACHSE. THERE'LL BE CSOS AS WELL, SIR. OH, YOU'RE CALLING THEM CSOS? YES. OKAY, SO TWO CSOS AND ONE LIEUTENANT, AND I'M FAMILIAR WITH THE RPD PROGRAM AND THAT WHEN THEY LAUNCHED OR STOOD UP, AS THEY CALL IT IT WAS A FULL TIME JOB FOR THE FIRST YEAR FOR THE LIEUTENANT AND THE CSOS. AND IT'S SUBSEQUENTLY DROPPED A LITTLE BIT FOR THE LIEUTENANT, BUT THEY'RE INVOLVING THEIR RECORDS MANAGEMENT AND RECORDS SUPERVISORS AND THE CSOS ARE WORKING ON IT FULL TIME. SO MY, MY QUESTION IS ONE WAS IN THE BUDGET. I DIDN'T SEE POSITION CHANGE REQUESTS. IS THIS GOING TO BE A REALLOCATION OF THOSE, AN EXISTING LIEUTENANT AND CSOS OR IS THIS A NEW POSITION REQUESTS? IT IS NOT A NEW POSITION REQUEST. IT WAS ALREADY APPROVED. I BELIEVE THAT WAS IN THE IN AN ACTION BY THE PREVIOUS BOARD. WE JUST HAVEN'T FILLED THE POSITION YET. WE'RE CURRENTLY IN THE TESTING PROCESS AND ARE AT THE APPLICATION PHASE, AND I BELIEVE WE HAVE ORAL BOARDS GOING ON NEXT WEEK TO IDENTIFY THE PERSON THAT WILL BE GOING INTO THAT POSITION. OKAY, SO THAT HASN'T BEEN DETERMINED YET. AND THEN OUR RPD'S PROGRAM, YOU GUYS ARE KIND OF ARE YOU KIND OF MODELING AFTER WHAT THEY DID FOR THEIR ROLLOUT AS FAR AS BECAUSE THEY HAD THE SAME LIEUTENANT AND TWO CSOS TO START THE PROGRAM? YEAH, WE LARGELY BASED IT ON THE MODEL THAT WAS WORKING FOR, FOR READING AT THE TIME. OURS IS GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE UNIQUE BECAUSE WE HAVE THE JAIL, AND WITH THAT COMES A WHOLE DIFFERENT SET OF PRA REQUESTS. IT'S GOING TO BRING A LOT MORE REDACTION TO WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THE BODY CAMS. SO I BELIEVE THE FOOTPRINT WE'RE IN IS GOING TO BE ADEQUATE. AND IT SOUNDS LIKE IF READING MAY BE TWEAKED THEIRS A LITTLE BIT. I REALLY LIKE THE MODEL WITH THE LIEUTENANT FOR THE PROFESSIONAL STANDARDS AND THEN THE COMMUNITY SERVICE OFFICERS FOR DOING THE DAY TO DAY WORK. CORRECT. AND WHAT OUR PD DOES IS THEIR LIEUTENANT IS PULLED BACK OUT OF IT JUST A BIT. SINCE THE INCEPTION WHEN THEY WERE FULL TIME, FIRST YEAR, JUST WORKING OUT THE, THE BUGS. BUT YOU NEED THAT LIEUTENANT POSITION FOR THE HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW. SO OFFICER INVOLVED SHOOTINGS AND ALL KINDS OF THINGS THAT OR, OR DECIDING WHO TO BLOCK OUT IN THE VIDEOS AND REDACTION AND ALL THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. SO I THINK IT'S, IT'S AN IMPORTANT. SO I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT BECAUSE I HADN'T SEEN THE POSITIONS AS BEING REQUESTED IN THIS BUDGET. AND I WAS CURIOUS WHERE THEY WERE COMING FROM, BUT IF THE PRIOR BOARD HAD APPROVED THAT THAT ANSWERS THAT QUESTION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU, SUPERVISOR LONG SUPERVISOR PLUMMER. YES. THANK YOU ALL FOR THE PRESENTATION. A NUMBER OF SPECIFIC QUESTIONS THAT I WANTED TO JUST RUN THROUGH. ONE IN PARTICULAR IS AROUND OVERTIME. IT LOOKS LIKE ACROSS THE DIVISIONS. SO FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND I BELIEVE IT'S LIKE 1.2 MILLION FOR THE JAIL, IT'S OVER 2 MILLION IN THIS PAST YEAR. AND I WAS CURIOUS IF THERE AS WE THINK ABOUT THE AMOUNT OF OVERTIME THAT YOU'RE SORRY, YOUR FOLKS ARE BASICALLY INCURRING, DOES IT MAKE SENSE? AND WOULD IT BE ACTUALLY BETTER ECONOMICALLY TO ADD POSITIONS AND REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF OVERTIME? AND, YOU KNOW, TO, SINCE WE'RE PAYING THEM TIME AND A HALF OR MORE THAN THAT WHEN WE'RE OVERTIME? YEAH, THAT'S A FAIR QUESTION. SO WHAT I'M PROJECTING WITH THE POSITIONS THAT WE FILLED, ESPECIALLY FOR THE PATROL SIDE AND OUR 235 BUDGET, I THINK WE'RE GOING TO SEE A SHARP DECREASE IN OVERTIME FOR A COUPLE DIFFERENT REASONS. FIRST OF ALL, WE'LL HAVE MORE, MORE AVAILABLE DEPUTIES ON THE SHIFT TO HANDLE THE CALL FOR SERVICE VOLUME. AND THEN THE OTHER PART OF IT IS, IS WHEN WE ARE FULL STAFF, WE WORK A 12 HOUR SHIFT. AND SO WHAT THAT EQUATES TO WHEN YOU'RE AT MINIMUM STAFFING IS A 48 HOUR WORKWEEK ON ONE END OF THE WEEK AND THEN A 36 HOUR WORK WEEK AT THE SECOND PART OF THE WEEK. THAT CREATES A NET FOUR HOURS OF OVERTIME THAT ALMOST GETS BUILT INTO EVERY SINGLE DEPUTY AND SERGEANT IN THAT BUDGET. SO GOING INTO THIS FISCAL YEAR, WITH THE STAFFING DOING AS STRONGLY AS IT'S PERFORMING STRONGLY AS FAR AS RECRUITING AND RETENTION, AND IF WE KEEP THAT PACE, I'M FULLY EXPECTING THOSE NUMBERS TO COME DOWN. THE JAIL, ON THE OTHER HAND, THAT'S A DIFFICULT ONE TO PREDICT. I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE THE THE SAME MODEL IS AS LONG AS WE HAVE ADEQUATE STAFFING [02:20:01] LEVELS, THEN YES, THAT OVERTIME WILL COME DOWN BECAUSE THE SHIFTS ARE IN THE SAME FOOTPRINT AS PATROL. OKAY. SO IT SOUNDS LIKE PART OF THAT IS BUILT INTO THE STAFFING MODEL BY VIRTUE OF HAVING THE 12 HOUR SHIFTS THAT ALTERNATE BETWEEN A FOUR FOR 12 HOUR SHIFTS AND THREE. YEAH, JUST JUST TO CLARIFY THAT, SIR, THE ON THE SHORT WEEK, IT SHOULD BE 312 HOUR SHIFTS AND AN EIGHT HOUR SHIFT. OKAY. BUT WHEN WE'RE AT MINIMUM STAFFING, THAT JUST TURNS INTO FOUR, 12 HOUR SHIFTS. AND THAT'S WHERE THAT NET FOUR HOURS OF OVERTIME GETS BUILT IN. AND SO WHEN WE DO GO TO FULL STAFF, WE'LL BE LOOKING AT BEING IN THE FOOTPRINT OF, OF THE 80 HOUR WORK WEEK WITHOUT THE FOUR HOURS OF OVERTIME. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND THEN THE I NOTICED FOR PROFESSIONAL AND SPECIAL SERVICES, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS A QUESTION FOR MIKE LINDSAY, BUT THE THAT FOR EXAMPLE, FOR THE SHERIFF'S BUDGET UNIT THE THAT TWO YEARS AGO, WE HAD ABOUT 170,000 IN THEIR BUDGETED OR EXPENDED. LAST YEAR WE BUDGETED 1.2 ALMOST. AND WE EXPECT TO SPEND ABOUT HALF THAT. AND THEN WE'VE BUDGETED AGAIN. 1.1. SO I WAS CURIOUS BOTH WHAT WHAT IS THAT. AND IT SEEMS LIKE WE'VE BUDGETED MORE THAN WE'VE ENDED UP SPENDING THE LAST TWO YEARS. SUPERVISOR PLUMMER. COULD YOU CLARIFY WHICH CUSTOMER YOU'RE LOOKING AT UNDER? LET'S SEE. UNDER 235 YES. 235 AND SO A LARGE PORTION OF THAT WOULD BE RELATED TO THE MOTOROLA RADIO PROJECT, WHICH HAS BEEN TAKING A SIGNIFICANT PERIOD OF TIME TO COMPLETE. AND SO WE HAVEN'T ACTUALLY PAID THOSE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES OUT. THERE WOULD BE OTHER POTENTIAL SIMILAR SITUATIONS LIKE THAT WHERE WE HAVE A PROJECT, BUT IT DOESN'T ACTUALLY OCCUR. OKAY, SO WE'RE JUST CATCHING UP TO AS THE PROJECT ACTUALLY GETS IMPLEMENTED. YES. AND THEN I SAW A LARGE NUMBER OF CONTRIBUTIONS TO OTHER AGENCIES. THE DOLLAR FIGURES WEREN'T THAT. COULD YOU JUST EXPLAIN WHAT THAT IS? YES. THAT'S OUR SAFE GRANT. FOR PROBABLY 98% OF THAT. SO THE SEXUAL ASSAULT FELONY ENFORCEMENT GRANT OUR COUNTY AND THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE IS THE FIDUCIARY RECEIVED $614,000 ANNUALLY TO MAINTAIN THAT SEXUAL ASSAULT FELONY ENFORCEMENT FOR THE NORTHERN REGION, AND THOSE CONTRIBUTIONS TO OTHER AGENCIES ARE THEIR ALLOCATIONS FOR THE FISCAL YEAR FOR SEXUAL ASSAULT, FELONY ENFORCEMENT ACTIVITIES. OKAY. THANK YOU. THERE IS ALSO ONE OTHER LARGER CONTRIBUTION AND I SHOULDN'T SAY LARGER, BUT A LARGE ENOUGH ONE DIMENSION TO THE CITY OF REDDING FOR THE INTEGRATED PUBLIC SAFETY SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE, WHICH IS PART OF THAT MS. PROGRAM THE SHERIFF HAS SPOKEN ABOUT. SO THE OPERATIONAL COST TO RUN THAT PROGRAM ANNUALLY, WE PAY TO THE CITY OF REDDING BECAUSE THEY'RE THE ONES THAT MANAGE IPS. OKAY. THAT'S HELPFUL. THANK YOU. AND THEN IS IT UNDER THE THE JAIL? SO BUDGET UNIT 260. THERE'S KIND OF A SIMILAR PATTERN WITH THE PROFESSIONAL SPECIAL SERVICES. IS THAT ANOTHER KIND OF MORE CAPITAL OR EQUIPMENT INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECT THERE. I MIGHT HAVE TO ACTUALLY LOOK AT THAT ONE. THAT'S THE ZERO 34,800. YEAH. YEAH. I KNOW WE HAVE THE 034834. I THINK IT IS, WHICH IS OUR MEDICAL. THAT'S NOT THE ONE YOU'RE REFERRING TO. CORRECT. RIGHT. YEAH. THIS ONE SAYS PROFESSIONAL AND SPECIAL SERVICES. WE HAVE IT AT ABOUT TWO 2.4 MILLION THIS YEAR. SO. THE CHUNK OF THAT IS FOR OUR PATH THREE GRANT FOR HEALTH MANAGEMENT ASSOCIATES. AND SO WE ACTUALLY HAD A SMALL AMOUNT OF EXPENDITURES WHEN WE FIRST ENTERED INTO THAT CONTRACT. SO LIKE LAST FISCAL YEAR, WE ONLY REALIZED LIKE $97,000 IN EXPENSES TOWARDS THAT. BUT OVER $1 MILLION OF THAT IS JUST FOR PART THREE. WE HAVE OTHER POTENTIALITIES THAT ARE BUDGETED FOR IN THERE. SO FOR OUTSIDE COUNSEL FOR OUR OUTSIDE ATTORNEY THAT SPECIALIZES IN CORRECTIONAL ISSUES WE, WE PAY EXPENSES THROUGH THAT. AND SO WE WOULD BUDGET FOR SOME OF OUR DAY TO DAY STUFF LIKE OUR RELIGIOUS TRAINING SOFTWARE, WHICH THE CORRECTIONAL OFFICERS USE TO MAINTAIN THEIR STC STANDARD, 24 HOURS OF TRAINING. AND YOU KNOW, SMALLER THINGS LIKE OUR CONTRACT WITH A MEDICAL OVERSEER FOR OUR ATRIAL DEFIBRILLATORS THAT ARE IN THE JAIL. AND LANGUAGE LINK SERVICES FOR TRANSLATION SERVICES FOR INMATES THAT NEED A TRANSLATOR [02:25:03] ON PHONE CALLS. BUT THOSE WOULD BE SMALL AMOUNTS. MAINLY IT WOULD BE OUTSIDE COUNCIL AND OUR PART THREE GRANT. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND THEN WHEN YOU MENTIONED THE POTENTIAL STAFFING CRISIS IN THE CORONER'S OFFICE, COULD YOU EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT MORE? AND I DON'T KNOW WHO'S BEST TO SPEAK TO THAT, BUT WHAT THAT WHAT WE MEAN BY THAT IN TERMS OF A CRISIS? I KNOW WE'RE ADDING THE FTE IS THAT TO FREE UP CAPACITY OF THE CORONER, OR HOW ARE WE THINKING ABOUT THAT? OKAY, I'LL TAKE THE FIRST ONE QUESTION. FIRST IS THE STAFFING CRISIS IS WE HAVE FIVE INVESTIGATORS. IT'S A PRETTY BUSY OFFICE. SO ANYTIME YOU LOSE AN INVESTIGATOR, THAT WORKLOAD GETS SPREAD OVER THE OTHER DEPUTY CORONER INVESTIGATORS. WE HAD ONE THAT JUST PUT IN NOTICE THAT THEY'RE THINKING ABOUT OR THEY'RE NOT THINKING ABOUT. THEY'VE ACCEPTED A JOB OUT OF STATE. THEY'RE GOING BACK WITH THEIR THEIR FAMILY. WE HAD ANOTHER EMPLOYEE PUT US ON NOTICE THAT THEY ARE ACTIVELY IN A HIRING PROCESS FOR ANOTHER JOB. PART OF WHAT CREATES THE. THE RETENTION ISSUES WITH THE CORONER'S OFFICE IS THERE'S REALLY NO WHERE TO GO BEYOND DEPUTY CORONER. SO WHEN THEY'RE HIRED AS A DEPUTY CORONER, ONE, UPON SATISFACTORY COMPLETION OF THEIR FIRST YEAR, IF THEIR EVALUATIONS IS MEETING OR EXCEEDING STANDARDS, THEY GENERALLY WILL PROGRESS TO A TWO. BUT WE DON'T HAVE A FRONT LINE SUPERVISOR AT THE CORONER'S OFFICE. AND THE CURRENT MODEL THAT WE'RE IN, IT GOES FROM THAT TO A SWORN LIEUTENANT WHO OVERSEES NOT JUST THE CORONER'S OFFICE, BUT ALSO THE CIVIL UNIT. SO A LOT OF TIMES OUR EMPLOYEES COME TO US FROM VARIOUS BACKGROUNDS AND SCIENCE, MEDICAL ANTHROPOLOGY THEY DO A COUPLE OF YEARS, MAYBE 2 OR 3. AND WHEN THEY'RE READY TO TAKE THAT STEP INTO A ROLE WITH GREATER RESPONSIBILITIES, IT'S JUST NOT THERE. AND SO THEY END UP SEPARATING EMPLOYMENT AND GOING ELSEWHERE AT TIMES. YES, SIR. SO I WANT TO ADD TO THAT A LITTLE BIT. SUPERVISOR. PLUMMER. SO IT'S A VERY IT'S ONLY A HANDFUL OF THEM THAT ARE THERE AND THEY'RE ON CALL 247. THEY ROTATE. AND THE WORKLOAD IS TREMENDOUS. THEY'RE BACKED UP 70 TO 80 CASES EACH. AND THE TIME DELAY CAUSES STRESS FOR FAMILIES THAT ARE IN A ONE OF THE BIGGEST CRISES OF THEIR LIVES, USUALLY. RIGHT. LOSING A LOVED ONE AND WANTING THE REPORT AND THEIR FINDINGS DONE. AND SO THE WORKLOAD AND THE DEMAND ON THEM IS SIGNIFICANT. AND WHEN YOU ONLY ARE TALKING ABOUT A SMALL GROUP OF FOUR INVESTIGATORS, MAYBE FIVE, SOMETIMES LOSING JUST ONE. CAUSES EVERYBODY TO BE ON ROTATION MORE OFTEN, LOSE 2 OR 3 AT A TIME. IT BECOMES IT BECOMES A MAJOR DEAL. WE ARE CONTEMPLATING AND GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT YOU KNOW, THAT'S, IT'S LIKE THE JAIL HAS A DIFFERENT MODEL THAT MAYBE IT'S TIME TO START ROTATING SOME OF THE DEPUTY SHERIFFS BACK INTO THAT POSITION TO AS WELL. A LOT OF SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT RUN THEIR CORONER'S OFFICE WITH DEPUTY SHERIFFS WHO DO A ROTATION THROUGH THERE. SO THERE'S SEVERAL DIFFERENT AVENUES WE HAVE TO LOOK AT. AND WHEN I BROUGHT THAT TO YOUR ATTENTION, BECAUSE AGAIN, I WANT YOU TO REALIZE THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT ALL PEACHES AND CREAM RIGHT NOW JUST BECAUSE WE'RE DOING WELL ON THE PATROL SIDE, ALL DIVISIONS AREN'T IN THE CORONER'S OFFICE IS A HUGE CONCERN FOR ME RIGHT NOW. AND TRYING TO FORECAST AND LOOK AHEAD AND PREPLAN IS A DIFFICULT THING FOR THAT AND IS ADDING THE TECHNICIAN IS THE IDEA THERE THAT THAT WILL FREE UP SOME OF THE WORKLOAD FOR THE THE DEPUTY CORONERS AND THEREBY INCREASE THEIR RETENTION SO THAT AS YOU BACKFILL. YES, SIR. ABSOLUTELY. BECAUSE PART OF THEIR OTHER DUTY IS NOT JUST BEING ON CALL AND DOING THAT, BUT ASSISTING THE PATHOLOGISTS WHEN THEY'RE DOING THE ACTUAL AUTOPSIES. SO THAT PULLS THEM AWAY FROM BEING ABLE TO WRITE THE REPORTS AND DOING THEIR OTHER DUTIES THAT THEY'VE BEEN HIRED FOR, THAT TECH WILL BE ABLE TO TO FILL THAT ROLE. SO THEY'LL TAKE THEM AND GET FREE UP MORE TIME FOR THEM. OKAY. THANK YOU. ONE LAST QUESTION, WHICH WAS RELATED TO THE ANIMAL CONTROL BUDGET UNIT. ACTUALLY, THERE'S TWO QUESTIONS RELATED TO THAT. ONE IS IF I'M READING THE CHARTS CORRECTLY, IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE DO WE HAVE ONE VACANCY THERE THAT HAS KIND OF BEEN CONSISTENTLY LIKE IN THIS CURRENT FISCAL YEAR, WE BUDGETED FOR SALARIES AND BENEFITS 437,000, BUT WE EXPECT IT TO COME IN AT 318, WHICH I'M ASSUMING IS ONE ONE PERSON WORTH. YOU'RE CORRECT. YES. AND WE WILL GO OUT FOR RECRUITMENT AND SOMETIMES BE SUCCESSFUL OR NOT. AND THE UNDERSHERIFF COULD PROBABLY SPEAK MORE TO THAT SPECIFIC DIVISION AND THE ISSUES WE HAVE RELATIVE TO RECRUITMENT. BUT THAT IS A VACANCY. YES. AND I DIDN'T KNOW BECAUSE LOOKING BACK TWO YEARS, IT LOOKS LIKE WE WERE AT THE 322, 322,000. SO IT LOOKED LIKE WE WERE AT THAT WHATEVER ONE MINUS THAT IF WE FEEL THAT THAT EXTRA [02:30:01] POSITION IS NEEDED TO ACCOMPLISH THE WORK OF THE DEPARTMENT. SO THE POSITION IS NEEDED. WE HAD A FAIRLY LONG TERM EMPLOYEE RETIRE. AND THEN SOMETIMES FINDING THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT WANT TO COME ON AND THAT WANT TO STAY IN THAT POSITION. WE HAVE ALSO HAD INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE PROMOTED OUT OF THAT INTO OTHER POSITIONS WITHIN OUR DEPARTMENT. I MEAN, ONE OF THE EXAMPLES I CAN THINK OF OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD IS DETECTIVE JEREMY ASHBY STARTED IN OUR ANIMAL CONTROL UNIT AND THEN BECAME A DEPUTY SHERIFF AND IS NOW IN OUR DETECTIVES DIVISION. DOING AN EXCELLENT JOB. AND SO WE WANT TO ABSOLUTELY. WHEN INDIVIDUALS EXPRESS AN INTEREST IN PROMOTING AND DOING OTHER THINGS IN THE DEPARTMENT, SUPPORT THEM IN THAT. SO THAT'S ONE OF THE OTHER RELATIVE ISSUES THAT WE HAVE WITH RECRUITMENT AND RETENTION IS JUST MOVEMENT WITHIN OUR OWN DEPARTMENT. THANK YOU. AND THEN THE THE CAPITAL PROJECT THERE AROUND, I THINK, THE LARGE ANIMAL EVACUATIONS, THE WE'RE PAYING FOR THAT BY IMPACT FEES. CORRECT? CORRECT. WHEN I LOOK AT THE IMPACT FEES, WHICH ARE SPLIT OUT BY ALL THOSE DIFFERENT USES, I'LL SAY THE, THE ONE THAT'S FOR ANIMAL, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S CALLED ANIMAL CONTROL OR ANIMAL. THERE'S SOMETHING AROUND ANIMALS THERE. THAT ONE'S PRETTY SMALL. SO I'M ASSUMING THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY PULLING FROM SEVERAL OF THOSE. IS THAT ACCURATE? JEN, DO YOU HAVE THAT ANSWER? COW. ANALYST. SO THE ANIMAL CONTROL IMPACT FEES WE'RE MOVING TOWARDS. CAN YOU COME UP, JEN, TO THE QUESTION? SO SO THE AMOUNT OF IT AND DO YOU HAVE A NO. SUPERVISOR. PLUMMER. I'M SORRY I WASN'T FULLY PAYING ATTENTION TO YOUR QUESTION. NO. THAT'S FINE. THE. SO IT LOOKS LIKE THE PROJECT IS ABOUT $225,000 IN THAT IT WILL COST. AND OUR IMPACT FEE FOR ANIMAL CONTROL IS AT 5000. IN TERMS OF THE FUND BALANCE. SO I'M ASSUMING THAT WE'RE PULLING FROM OTHER IMPACT FEES TO MONEY THAT WAS GOING TO PAY FOR THAT. SO WE HAVE SOME SETTLEMENT MONEY. SO IT'S A BIGGER PROJECT IN NORTHERN EXPANSION IS, I THINK WHERE YOU'RE GOING WITH THIS, WITH THE IMPACT FEES WILL BE MOVING TOWARDS A LARGE ANIMAL EVACUATION AND PART OF THE NORTHERN EXPANSION. SO WE WILL DEPLETE THOSE IMPACT FEES WHILE UTILIZING ZOGG SETTLEMENT MONIES AS WELL. WE WERE ABLE TO SECURE A METAL BUILDING WITH THE ARPA MONIES BEFORE THAT EXPIRED. SO THAT HAS BEEN DELIVERED. BUT ALL OF THAT IS MOVING TOWARDS THE NORTHERN EXPANSION PROJECT. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU JIM. IS THAT ALL? THANK YOU. SUPERVISOR. KELSTROM. ALL RIGHT. WELL, FIRST OF ALL, I. SUPERVISOR. MATT, I WAS GOING TO SPEAK TO YOUR OVERTIME AND AND BY ALL MEANS, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG HERE, BUT SO THE OVERTIME THE SHERIFF AND I HAD THIS DISCUSSION TWO YEARS AGO AND ABOUT POS AND OVERTIME AND, YOU KNOW, PAY FOR THEMSELVES AND EVERYTHING. SO RIGHT NOW, I BELIEVE HE SAID WE HAVE THE HIGHEST STAFFING LEVELS THAT WE HAVE. SO IN OTHER WORDS, ALL POSITIONS ARE FILLED. BUT THERE'S SEVERAL PEOPLE THAT ARE OUT ON FAMILY MEDICAL LEAVE OR, YOU KNOW, WORKER'S COMP OR MENTAL WHATEVER. AND SO WHEN THOSE PEOPLE ARE OUT, WE CAN'T CREATE NEW POSITIONS BECAUSE WHEN THEY COME BACK, THEN WE WOULDN'T HAVE ANYBODY, YOU KNOW, THERE WOULD BE TOO MANY PEOPLE. SO THAT'S WHY THAT OVERTIME IS STILL HIGH, EVEN THOUGH, YOU KNOW, WE ARE FULLY STAFFED, THERE'S SEVERAL THAT AREN'T WORKING. SO IS THAT DID I DO OKAY? YEAH. THAT'S ACCURATE. ALL RIGHT. PERFECT. AND THEN JEN ALREADY EXPLAINED THIS TO ME, BUT MAYBE YOU COULD TALK ABOUT THE BERNIE DOG PAY. I'M SORRY. BERNIE DOG PAY. I THOUGHT BERNIE WAS GETTING A POLICE DOG. OH, FOR THE CANINE PAY IS THAT'S MORE OF A BUDGET THING. YOU WANT TO TAKE THAT OR I CAN. OKAY. SO. IT'S FUNNY WHEN HE SAYS, DO YOU WANT TO TAKE THAT AND JUST STARES AT YOU, RIGHT? IT'S LIKE, IS THAT THAT'S WHAT'S CALLED LIKE VOLUNTOLD. YEAH, EXACTLY. SO AARON'S ALREADY DONE THE RESEARCH. ARE YOU REFERENCING AARON WILL BE HAPPY YOU REFERENCING THE ABSENCE OF DOG PAY IN BERNIE OR. I THOUGHT YOU WERE ADDING DOG PAY. AARON. YEAH. WE ARE ADDING DOG PAY. OKAY. AND SO WE DID ADD A CANINE TO OUR DEPARTMENT. SO WE HAVE AN ADDITIONAL CANINE UNIT AND THE DOG PAY WAS BUDGETED FOR BERNIE. SO WHERE THEY GET ASSIGNED IS BEYOND MY, MY SCOPE, BUT I'LL HELP YOU OUT. YEAH. THE BERNIE LIEUTENANT IS A. HELPS RUN THE K9 UNIT, AND SO HE IS ECSTATIC THAT HE IS GETTING A DOG UP IN THE BURNING AREA AGAIN. THE FOLKS IN THE INTERMOUNTAIN REGION ARE ECSTATIC THAT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A DOG UP THERE AGAIN. AND I CAN TELL YOU OPERATIONALLY IF IT WAS POSSIBLE, [02:35:02] I'D HAVE A K9 UNIT IN EVERY RURAL AREA OUT THERE BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S A FORCE MULTIPLIER IN A VERY LOW COST INVOLVED. WE THERE IS A NONPROFIT STILL FRIENDS OF SHASTA K9 THAT RAISES MONEY AND BUYS DOGS FOR US AND BUYS EQUIPMENT FOR US. SO IT MAKES OUR OVERHEAD ADDING THAT VERY LOW AND SUPERVISOR. YEAH, WE ARE, WE'RE ECSTATIC TO GET ONE UP THERE BECAUSE THAT, THAT COMMUNITY NEEDS THE ADDITIONAL SERVICE AND THE DELAY TIME WHEN A RESPONSE IS UP THERE. WE ALSO ASSIST CHP AS THEY DO US UP IN THAT REGION. SO PUTTING A DOG UP THERE PUTS ANOTHER SAFETY ELEMENT TO ALL THE LAW ENFORCEMENT UP THERE. HAPPY TO GET THAT. YEAH. NO, I'M VERY HAPPY YOU GOT IT, TOO. IT'S JUST IT'S KIND OF FUNNY BECAUSE AARON THOUGHT YOU WERE SNEAKING ONE IN ON HER WHEN I CAME BY. AND ONE OF THE MEETINGS, AND I SAID, SO BERNIE'S GETTING A POLICE DOG. AND SHE DID ALL THE RESEARCH. SO I GUESS THE POLICE DOG WAS GIFTED TO US, AND NOW IT'S BEEN TRAINING. SO THAT'S CORRECT. WE JUST HAVE TO DO THE SUPPORT AND TRAIN THE HANDLER AND, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE EQUIPMENT AND THE EXTRA PAY, WHICH IS FEDERALLY MANDATED. SO VERY MINIMAL. YEAH. WHICH OFFICERS IS IT GOING TO THE CANINE? I DON'T, I DON'T, I DON'T REMEMBER WHICH OFFICERS TAKEN. I THINK IT WAS THUNDERBIRD ISN'T IT. NO IT WAS, IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN. I'M NOT SURE. WE JUST HAD SHIFT ROTATION. SO EVERYBODY MOVED AROUND. AND IT IS PRETTY AMAZING THAT FOR A LONG TIME NOW WE HAVE NOT HAD TO PURCHASE POLICE DOGS FROM THE COUNTY'S BUDGET BECAUSE THE ACTUAL PURCHASE IS FAIRLY EXPENSIVE, THE PURCHASE AND THE TRAINING. SO WE'RE FORTUNATE THAT WE'VE HAD THE FRIENDS OF K9 AND OTHER INDIVIDUALS. RETIRED SENATOR MORRIS JOHANSEN ACTUALLY DONATED A POLICE K9 DOG MANY YEARS AGO OR THE, THE FUNDS FOR THAT. AND SO THERE'S, THERE'S ALWAYS A LOT OF SUPPORT FOR THAT PROGRAM. THANK YOU. SUPERVISOR. KELSTROM. SUPERVISOR LONG. THANK YOU. CHAIR. CRYE. I JUST WANTED TO GET BACK TO THE CORONER'S OFFICE. JUST A BRIEF MOMENT ON THAT. BACK IN THE DAY WHEN I WORKED WITH THE CORONER INVESTIGATORS ON MY CASES AT RPD THERE WAS A COMBINATION OF CIVILIAN CORONER ASSISTANCE AND THERE WERE DEPUTIES THAT WERE SWORN. SO IT WAS KIND OF A MIX OF BOTH OF THEM IN THERE. AND I REALLY AM A FIRM PROPONENT OF AND I'D LIKE TO SEE MAYBE THE DEPARTMENT COME BACK TO THE BOARD AND DISCUSS WHAT THE COST IMPLICATIONS WOULD BE IF YOU ROTATE THAT THROUGH DEPUTIES, THROUGH THAT POSITION, BECAUSE I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO GIVE THEM A CHANCE TO GET OUT OF THAT UNIT. IF THEY GET BURNED OUT AND HAVE SOMEPLACE ELSE TO ROTATE TO AND PROMOTIONAL OPPORTUNITIES AND ALL THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. SO I'D BE I'D BE INTERESTED IN KNOWING WHAT THE COST IMPACT WOULD BE AND HOW MANY CIVILIANS ARE IN THERE CURRENTLY. TOTAL WOULD BE SIX. THERE'S A FIVE INVESTIGATORS WITH THE NEW PROPOSED POSITION THAT WOULD CREATE THE SIXTH POSITION. AND THEN THERE'S ALSO A, AN ADMIN SECRETARY POSITION THAT SERVES AS THE CUSTODIAN OF RECORDS. OKAY. SO YOU WOULD YOU WOULD BE AUGMENTING THAT STAFF WITH ADDITIONAL SWORN. OR WOULD THAT. WELL, WE HAVE WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY REAL FORMAL DISCUSSION ON THAT. WE'VE JUST FOUND OUT ABOUT THE THE FOLKS THAT ARE DEPARTING AND PLANNING TO DEPART. BUT THAT CERTAINLY COULD BE PART OF THE CONVERSATION. I'D BE HAPPY TO GET YOU THE NUMBERS ON WHAT THE IMPACT WOULD BE IF WE WERE TO, TO GO THAT DIRECTION WITH WITH SWORN DEPUTIES? YES, BECAUSE I WOULD NOT WANT TO DISPLACE ANYBODY FROM THEIR CURRENT EMPLOYMENT. AND THE CIVILIAN INVESTIGATORS THAT WERE IN THE CORONER'S OFFICE DID A PHENOMENAL JOB AS WELL. SO IT WOULD BE JUST MAYBE GOING FORWARD IF IT COULD BE, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT MAYBE A DEPUTY WOULD BE ABLE TO DO. I'D JUST BE CURIOUS ABOUT THE COST OF THAT. VERY WELL SIR. OKAY. THANK YOU. CAN I JUST TELL THEM ONE MORE THING WITH THAT? BECAUSE HE BRINGS UP A GOOD POINT ABOUT THE EMOTIONAL IMPACT THAT HAS ON THE EMPLOYEES THAT WORK IN THE CORONER'S OFFICE. SO PUT IT INTO PERSPECTIVE. THEY DEAL WITH DEATH EVERY SINGLE DAY IN ONE CAPACITY OR ANOTHER. HAVING TO MAKE NOTIFICATIONS TO FAMILIES ON A DAILY BASIS AND DEAL WITH FAMILIES IN THAT EMOTIONAL STATE TAKES QUITE AN IMPACT AND A TOLL ON THE EMPLOYEES THAT HAVE TO DEAL WITH THAT DAY IN AND DAY OUT. SO THE ROTATION THAT YOU MENTIONED, SUPERVISOR LONG, IS PROBABLY A GOOD MIX AND A GOOD KEY TO A HEALTHY AND SUCCESSFUL PROGRAM. I DON'T HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS FOR THAT. LIKE THE UNDERSHERIFF JUST STATED, WE'RE AT THE VERY FRONT OF TRYING TO START TALKING ABOUT IT AND PLANNING IT OUT. AND WE WOULD, WE WOULD CERTAINLY IT'S ENCOURAGING TO HEAR THAT THE BOARD IS WILLING TO BE PART OF THAT SOLUTION WITH US IN THAT APPROACH GOING FORWARD. AND ONE OTHER BIT OF CLARIFICATION WE GOT FROM TEXT. [02:40:02] SO RECENTLY WE ADDED TWO NEW DOGS, NOT TWO ADDITIONAL DOGS, ONE ADDITIONAL DOG, BUT TWO NEW DOGS BECAUSE OF A DOG THAT JUST RETIRED OUT. AND BOTH OF THOSE DOGS WERE PURCHASED BY FRIENDS OF SHASTA CANINE. AND THE DEPUTY THAT'S GOING TO BE HANDLING THE DOG IN BERNIE IS DEPUTY HARRINGTON. SHERIFF, YOU CAN STAY THERE. IS THAT YOUR IS THAT IT? SUPERVISOR? YES. OKAY. SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE CORONER AND I KNOW I JUST SPRUNG THIS ON YOU THIS MORNING BECAUSE MOST OF THE QUESTIONS I'VE HAD FOR EVERYBODY THE LAST FEW DAYS, I TOOK CARE OF PRIOR, BUT THIS ONE CAME UP THIS MORNING AND I'M LOOKING AT THE BUDGET. ABOUT THE, WE TALKED ABOUT THE THE CREMATION PERMIT AND THEN, AND THEN THE THE SPREADING OF ASHES PERMIT. AND SO JUST HAVING THAT LITERALLY AT LIKE 05:45 THIS MORNING AT THE GYM WHEN SOMEBODY APPROACHED ME ABOUT THAT, WHAT CAN YOU TELL ME? I THINK THAT'S IN 287. YEAH. AND CHAIR CRYE I, WE TALKED ABOUT THAT AND THE UNDERSHERIFF REACHED OUT AND GOT AN ANSWER ON THAT. THAT'S NOT ACTUALLY PERMITTED THROUGH THE CORONER'S OFFICE AS VITAL RECORDS. AND THAT IS A JOINT PERMIT THAT IS FOR THE CREMATION AND THE SPREADING OF THE ASHES, BUT IT'S NOT HANDLED THROUGH US. WHO IS THAT? DO YOU KNOW WHO THAT WAS? IT SHOULD BE VITAL. RECORDS. VITAL RECORDS. USUALLY THE PUBLIC HEALTH. I WOULD SAY THAT'S PROBABLY THROUGH HHS. AYE. IF I HAD TO GUESS. BUT I'M NOT. I'M NOT CERTAIN IN DOUBT. THROW IT AT HHS. YEAH, SURE. WHY NOT? I APPRECIATE THAT THEY HAVEN'T SPOKE YET. YEAH. OKAY. OKAY, SO I'M GONNA. THANKS, CHRISTY. YEAH. SO I'M GOING TO HAVE CEO RICKERT. I WANT TO LOOK ABOUT THAT BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THAT'S SOMETHING I'M REALLY CURIOUS TO, TO SEE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT. I MEAN, I THINK IT'S, IT'S GREAT WE GET TAXED AND THEN EVEN WHEN WE'RE DEAD, WE'RE STILL. YEAH, I WHAT DID I SAY? I COULDN'T AGREE MORE. THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE TO BE PAYING A FEE. WHEN YOU LOSE A LOVED ONE AND YOU JUST WANT TO GET THEM CREMATED AND, AND NOT ONLY MEMORIALIZED. YEAH, AND NOT ONLY THAT, BUT AND YOU EVEN SAID BECAUSE YOU WEREN'T SURE EITHER WAS I ABOUT THE, THE FEE TO SPREAD ASHES. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, MOST PEOPLE ARE JUST GOING TO GO DO IT ON THEIR OWN. WELL, I DON'T WANT TO JUST ARBITRARILY MAKE SOMEBODY BREAKING THE LAW OR A CODE JUST BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO PAY A $40 OR $100 FEE. SO I'M GOING TO TELL CEO RICKERT THAT'S SOMETHING. AFTER LUNCH, I WILL DEFINITELY BE I WANT, I WANT INFORMATION ON ABOUT THAT, WHAT THAT FEE LOOKS LIKE, BECAUSE THAT'S ASININE. SO ANYWAY, AND I APPRECIATE THE GENTLEMAN FROM DISTRICT THREE THAT APPROACHED ME AT THE GYM. OKAY, THAT'S THE LAST QUESTION I HAD. SUPERVISOR PLUMMER. YES, SHERIFF. I KNOW YOU'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT THE CORRECTION AND REHABILITATION CAMPUS THAT YOU'RE WORKING ON, AND I KNOW IT'S STILL EARLY DAYS, BUT I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY, THERE'S NOTHING IN THIS BUDGET FOR THAT PROJECT AT THIS POINT. IS THAT TRUE? THAT'S CORRECT. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WHEN WE HAD BROACHED THAT POSSIBILITY OF THAT PROJECT AND MOVING FORWARD, THAT IF IT WAS GOING TO MOVE FORWARD AND WE WERE CONTINUING TO WORK ON THAT, WE WERE GOING TO UTILIZE SOME OF THE MONIES THAT HAD SET ASIDE FOR THE POTENTIAL NEW JAIL. THAT'S THAT'S THERE'S NOTHING IN THE BUDGET FOR IT RIGHT NOW. AND I COULD TELL YOU ALL KNOW THAT I WENT TO THE STATE AND TRIED TO GET IT FUNDED THROUGH THE STATE. THAT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN, AT LEAST THIS FISCAL YEAR. WE STILL MAY END UP WITH SOME MONEY FROM THEM, SOME SEED MONEY, IF YOU WILL, FOR THAT. THAT'S THAT'S YET TO BE DETERMINED. BUT AS FAR AS THEM FUNDING THE THE FUNDING, THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN. SO WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO BE CREATIVE AND LOOK FORWARD TO A WAY TO DO THAT. WE ARE HAVING TALKS WITH THE STATE ON ANOTHER AVENUE OF OF POTENTIAL FUNDING AND BUILD OUT, WHICH GOT TO GET MORE INFORMATION BEFORE I BRING THAT FORWARD TO YOU. BUT THERE ARE SOME STILL POSSIBILITIES WITH THAT. AND YOU EVEN SUPERVISOR. PLUMMER, THANK YOU FOR THE CONNECTIONS YOU'VE MADE AND FACILITATED FOR SOME OF THOSE TALKS. THEY ARE STILL GOING FORWARD. I KNOW THAT WE'RE STILL IN NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE CITY OVER THE PROPERTY. BUT IF. YEAH, HOW FAR IS THAT? HOW FAR ARE WE FROM GETTING THAT? THAT'S NOT SOMETHING I CAN SPEAK TO. BUT I IF THAT WERE TO GO FORWARD, I IMAGINE THAT THERE WOULD BE SOME COSTS AROUND ENVIRONMENTAL, YOU KNOW, REVIEWS AND PERMITS AND THAT TYPE OF THING. IN THIS UPCOMING FISCAL YEAR. IS IT PREMATURE TO ACCOUNT FOR THAT IN THIS BUDGET, OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD BRING BACK AS A BUDGET AMENDMENT IN THE FUTURE? YEAH. SO I'VE BEEN ASKED A LOT ABOUT THAT PROJECT AND HOW WE'RE GOING TO MOVE IT FORWARD AND WHAT IT'S GOING TO ENTAIL. AND THE, THE STANDARD ANSWER I'VE BEEN GIVING EVERYBODY IS I, I DON'T EVEN HAVE THE LAND YET. SO UNTIL WE ACTUALLY KNOW THAT THAT'S YOU KNOW, WET INK ON THE CONTRACT AND WE'RE GETTING THAT LAND, THEN WE CAN MOVE FORWARD TO THE NEXT STEP. AND YES, ENVIRONMENTAL TRAFFIC MITIGATION AND INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THAT WILL BE THE KEYS TO [02:45:07] STARTING US OFF AND MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT. AND THEN, AND ADDITIONALLY WITH THAT, PROBABLY EVEN BEFORE SOME OF THAT IS A MASTER PLAN OF WHAT WE, WHAT WE WANT AND WHAT OUR VISION IS AND HOW WE'RE GOING TO FUND IT. SO WE'RE, WE HAVE SOME STEPS TO GO. BUT FIRST THINGS FIRST. WE NEED. WE NEED THE LAND. OKAY. THANK YOU. YOU KNOW, AND SHERIFF I AND SUPERVISOR PLUMMER BROUGHT UP A GOOD POINT ABOUT THAT, BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN HAVING CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THE RD PROGRAM FOR WELL OVER A YEAR. AND I KNOW THE BODY CAMS WAS THE MOST IMPORTANT. SO THAT ONE NOW ROLLING OUT. BUT DO YOU WANT TO SHARE AT ALL ANYTHING NEW WITH THE RD PROGRAM? I MEAN, I KNOW WE'VE HAD DISCUSSIONS, IT MIGHT BE GOOD FOR THE PUBLIC TO STILL HEAR THAT IN CASE WE TALK ABOUT IT AFTER LUNCH. JUST THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT COULD BE A IT WOULD PAY FOR ITSELF, RIGHT? I MEAN, I THINK IT PROBABLY WOULD EVENTUALLY. IT'S JUST THE, IT'S JUST THE START UP COST OF GETTING THAT GOING, BUT IT WOULD BE A CRITICAL COMPONENT TO COMBATING, COMBATING THE DRUGS AND INFLUX THAT'S COMING INTO THIS COMMUNITY. I CAN TELL YOU THAT EVERY, EVERY UP ON YOU, BEHIND YOU, EVERY DIFFERENT PLACE THAT RUNS THAT IN DIFFERENT REGIONS IT HAS A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON THE INFLUX OF DRUGS THAT COME INTO THAT COMMUNITY AND ARE SENT. IF UNIT IS DOING A GREAT JOB WITH THAT RIGHT NOW. BUT THAT WOULD BE A COMPONENT THAT WOULD JUST BOLSTER THAT EFFORT. AND BECAUSE OF FENTANYL, ESPECIALLY IN THE CORRIDOR THAT RUNS THROUGH OUR COUNTY. I THINK WE CAN, WE CAN SHOW A BIG IMPACT ON THAT. SO YEAH, IT'S SOMETHING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MOVING FORWARD TOO. BUT I KNOW I GET IT BUDGETS, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, IF WE HAD AN ENDLESS SUPPLY OF MONEY, WE COULD DO A LOT OF THINGS AND BUT IT IS A PRIORITY FOR US. YOU'RE GOING TO PAY FOR IT NOW OR WE'RE GOING TO PAY POSSIBLY DOUBLE LATER. SO HERE'S WHAT I TELL MY OTHER FELLOW BOARD MEMBERS BECAUSE THE THREE NEW ONES, BECAUSE THIS IS SOMETHING I BROUGHT UP LAST YEAR AND I WASN'T GOING TO BRING IT UP. BUT THEN AS YOU TALKED ABOUT THE ALTERNATIVE CUSTODY PROGRAM. SUPERVISOR. PLUMMER. WHICH I THINK WE ARE ALL IN FAVOR OF, BUT WE ALL KNOW THAT'S NOT ENTIRELY IN OUR HANDS HOW THAT'S GOING TO UNFOLD AND THE TIME WITH THAT. SO ONE OF THE THINGS I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT AFTER LUNCH IS AGAIN, THE RD PROGRAM BECAUSE WE HAVE POSSIBLY A COUPLE AVENUES OF LOOKING AT THAT. AND I WOULD LIKE US TO AT LEAST TALK ABOUT THE STARTUP COSTS VERSUS YOU KNOW, THE BENEFITS OVER THREE, FIVE, AND SEVEN YEARS IF WE INVEST THAT MONEY UP FRONT BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE IS KILLING IT. AND WE'RE SEEING WITH THE STAFFING AND THE LEVEL OF OFFICER THAT ARE LATERALLY COMING OVER, I THINK THIS MAY BE THE OPPORTUNITY RIGHT NOW TO POSSIBLY DOUBLE DOWN ON THAT, BUT I HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO TALK TO ALL OF US. SO I WAS GOING TO TALK ABOUT IT AFTER LUNCH. BUT WHAT A DAG IS. WELL, INSTEAD OF ME EXPLAINING THE DAG PROGRAM, I'LL PROBABLY HAVE THE SHERIFF TALK ABOUT IT. BUT DOMESTIC HIGHWAY ENFORCEMENT, IT'S IT'S INTERDICTION BASICALLY ON, ON YOUR FREEWAYS AND HIGHWAYS AND IT IS SUCCESSFUL. THERE'S A LOT TO IT, AND THERE'S SOME KEY TRAINING AND AND ELEMENTS OF PROTECTING CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS THAT INVOLVED IN THE WHOLE PROGRAM. BUT IF RUN CORRECTLY, IT IS HIGHLY SUCCESSFUL AND IMPACTFUL TO YOUR COMMUNITIES. AND IT'S NOT WE'RE NOT WE'RE NOT CREATING RECREATING THE WHEEL HERE. THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE DOING IT AND DOING IT WELL. AND LOW AND BEHOLD, DRUGS ARE ILLEGAL AGAIN. SO MAYBE WE CAN ACTUALLY HAVE AN IMPACT. WELL, AND THE PROACTIVE APPROACH AND WITH THIS CORRIDOR BEING WHAT IT IS, I MEAN, WHAT WAS WHAT THE CHP JUST WHAT WAS IT? I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS A COUPLE MONTHS AGO AT ALL. WELL, CHP HAS BEEN MAKING SOME INCREDIBLE STOPS AND THEY'RE NOT EVEN RUNNING A PROGRAM, JUST HAVING THE DOG UNIT OUT THERE AND WORKING THE HIGHWAY AND FREEWAY AND ALL THOSE STOPS ARE TURNOVERS TO OUR INCENTIVE UNIT, WHO THEN FOLLOWS UP THE INVESTIGATION AND, AND DOES THE CASE, BUT WE COULD BE DOING THOSE OR DOUBLING THOSE EFFORTS VERY EASILY. AND THE BEST PART IS EVENTUALLY WHAT YOU WANT IS YOU WANT THEM ALMOST NOT TO BE BUSY BECAUSE EVERYBODY ELSE IS, YOU KNOW, GOING OVER INTO, YOU KNOW, NEVADA OR JUST COMPLETELY AVOIDING SAME CONCEPT AS THE MARIJUANA ERADICATION TEAM. CHAIR. WE HAVE HAD A TREMENDOUS IMPACT. I CAN'T EVEN TELL YOU HOW WELL OF AN IMPACT WE'VE HAD ON THIS COUNTY BY PUTTING THAT EFFORT THE LAST THREE YEARS, WHERE MY NEIGHBORING COUNTIES AREN'T HAPPY WITH ME BECAUSE WE'VE PUSHED ALL THE GROWERS INTO THEIR COUNTIES. BUT THAT'S THAT'S THE KEY. WE DON'T WANT THEM IN OUR COUNTY. THAT'S IT'S OUR COUNTY TO TAKE CARE OF. SO SAME TYPE OF PHILOSOPHY WITH THAT. WELL, AND THAT'S, I MEAN, I, I COULDN'T AGREE MORE. SO WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT THAT PROBABLY AFTER LUNCH. DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS [02:50:02] FOR THE SHERIFF OR ANY OF PEOPLE ON HIS STAFF. AND, AND IS IT IS IT TRUE MOST SHERIFF DEPUTIES, WHEN THEY GROW UP, WANT TO JUST BECOME FIREMEN AND WOMEN? NO, NO, IT'S QUITE, QUITE THE OPPOSITE. CHAIR. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I COULDN'T DO IT TO DO IT TO CHIEF O'HARA, NOT TO YOU. ALL RIGHT. SO IT IS 1150 AT THIS TIME. SO I'M GOING TO I'LL ASK MY FELLOW BOARD MEMBERS DO WE WANT TO TAKE A BREAK NOW AND THEN START UP IN ONE HOUR WITH THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY? I'M ASSUMING THEIR PRESENTATION IS GOING TO GO. I MEAN, THE SHERIFF AND THE FIRE BOTH LASTED IN THE SPAN ROUGHLY OF AN HOUR. SO ARE YOU. ARE WE GOOD WITH THAT? DO WE WANT TO COME BACK? DO YOU WANT A HALF AN HOUR? DO YOU WANT AN HOUR? WHAT IS IT? I'D SAY HALF HOUR. OKAY. HALF HOUR. ALL RIGHT. YEAH. GOOD. OKAY, THEN WHY DON'T WE JUST DO A ROUND TIME AND WE'LL SAY WE'LL BE BACK AT 1230. SO 39 MINUTES. WILL THAT WORK? OKAY. SO WE'LL BE BACK AT 1230. WE'LL START WITH THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY AND THEN WE WILL MOVE INTO THE HEARING, PUBLIC COMMENT AND THEN BOARD DISCUSSION. WE ARE AT RECESS. RETURNING FROM RECESS BEFORE WE BEFORE WE BEGIN, I KNOW THEY'RE PULLING UP THE NEXT PRESENTATION, SO I'M GOING TO I REALLY I WANT TO CLARIFY SOMETHING THAT I HAD SAID EARLIER BEFORE THE BREAK ABOUT THE DH PROGRAM PAYING FOR ITSELF. AND I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY WHAT I MEANT IS I BELIEVE WITH A STRONG DH PROGRAM THAT'S GOING TO BE SUCH A DETERRENT FOR CRIME COMING HERE THAT THOSE THAT WILL BE COSTS THAT WE WILL NOT HAVE TO INCUR. JUST BECAUSE SHASTA COUNTY WILL GET THAT REPUTATION AGAIN FOR NOT BEING A PLACE THAT YOU WANT TO TRAFFIC DRUGS OR ANY OTHER ILLEGAL ACTIVITY THROUGH. SO THAT'S WHAT I MEANT BY THAT. OKAY. ARE WE GOOD, AARON. ALL RIGHT. DISTRICT ATTORNEY STEPHANIE BRIDGETT. COME ON UP. GOOD AFTERNOON. GOOD AFTERNOON. SUPERVISOR. MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY. STEPHANIE BRIDGETT SHASTA COUNTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY. HERE TO PRESENT ON OUR. THERE WE GO. PRESENT ON OUR BUDGET. SO FOR THE DAS OFFICE, WE ACTUALLY HAVE TWO DIFFERENT BUDGETS, TWO DIFFERENT COST CENTERS. WE HAVE OUR MAIN DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, WHICH IS GOING TO BE OUR ATTORNEYS, OUR INVESTIGATORS, VAST MAJORITY OF OUR SUPPORT STAFF. AND THAT IS OUR 227 WITH A MISSION OF TO SEEK TRUTH THROUGH FAIR, HONEST AND ETHICAL PROSECUTION. THAT'S AT THE CORE OF EVERYTHING THAT WE DO. OUR OTHER BUDGET IS OUR CRIME VICTIM ASSISTANCE CENTER. THAT'S GOING TO HAVE ALL OF OUR ADVOCATES AND OTHER POSITIONS THAT ARE SUPPORTING OUR VICTIMS OF CRIME AND WITNESSES OF CRIME. AND THAT IS OUR COST CENTER. 256. WITH A MISSION TO MEET THE NEEDS OF CRIME VICTIMS IN OUR COMMUNITY THROUGH COLLABORATIVE SERVICES PROVIDED WITH COURTEOUS, EFFICIENT PROFESSIONALISM. GOING INTO THIS BUDGET, I DID REQUEST STAFFING CHANGES THAT ARE REFLECTED UP HERE. I'M NOT GOING TO JUST REPEAT MY PRESENTATION. I DID FEBRUARY 27TH BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THAT'S VERY FRESH IN EVERYBODY'S MIND. BUT I DID REALLY GO INTO A DEEP DIVE OF, OF OUR WORKLOAD AS COMPARED TO OTHER COUNTIES AND THE NEED FOR ADDITIONAL STAFFING. SO I AM MAKING THAT REQUEST AT THIS POINT TO AT LEAST START PUTTING A BAND AID ON THE AMOUNT OF STAFF THAT WE NEED TO GET US UP TO A LEVEL THAT CAN MEET THE WORK LOAD THAT WE HAVE SO THAT WE CAN PROVIDE THE SERVICES TO OUR COMMUNITY THAT THEY NEED. FIRST AND FOREMOST WAS TWO PARALEGALS. THAT HAS BEEN A PILOT PROGRAM THAT WE'VE DONE OVER THE LAST YEAR. SO LAST IN THE LAST FISCAL YEAR, HAVING PARALEGAL POSITIONS IN UNDER FILLED POSITIONS. THAT HAS BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL IN HELPING WITH OUR ATTORNEY STAFF, THOSE PARALEGALS. NOW WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO MOVE INTO FULL TIME POSITIONS THAT ARE NOT AS UNDER FILLS AS I WAS ABLE TO SECURE FUNDING FOR BOTH OF THOSE POSITIONS FROM AB 109. AND THOSE ARE IN THE PROPOSED CEO RECOMMENDED BUDGET IS TO ADD THOSE TWO ADDITIONAL PARALEGAL POSITIONS AS THEY DO NOT IMPACT THE GENERAL FUND. THEY DO HAVE THEIR OWN FUNDING SOURCE. THE NEXT REQUEST IS ACTUALLY A REQUEST THAT I'VE BEEN MAKING FOR AT LEAST TWO YEARS, [02:55:01] POSSIBLY THREE YEARS NOW IS TO CREATE A TWO TIERED LEGAL SECRETARY CLASSIFICATION. THIS WOULD GIVE US THE LEGAL SECRETARY ONE TWO. AND I DID OBVIOUSLY DO A VERY IN DEPTH PRESENTATION TO THIS BOARD AT THE HEARING AT THE EXCUSE ME AT THE MEETING JUST ABOUT A WEEK OR TWO AGO. SO I'M SURE THAT IS IN THE FOREFRONT OF YOUR MIND OF HOW MUCH WORK THOSE SECRETARIES DO. THEY ARE REALLY KEY TO THE SUCCESS OF THE OFFICE. THEY HANDLE EVERYTHING FROM THE PROCESSING OF THE CASES WHEN THEY FIRST COME INTO THE OFFICE, HANDLING ALL THE REPORTS, AUDIO, VIDEO MOTIONS, EVERYTHING THAT IS NEEDED TO SUPPORT THE ATTORNEYS AND BE SUCCESSFUL IN COURT REALLY FALLS ON THAT LEGAL SECRETARY POSITION. AND HAVING IT AS JUST A A SINGLE CLASSIFICATION GIVES NO ROOM FOR GROWTH. IT, IT REALLY IMPACTS OUR ABILITY TO RECRUIT AND RETAIN THOSE POSITIONS, AS IT DOES TAKE SEVERAL YEARS TO BECOME PROFICIENT. AND BY THEN THEY'VE ALREADY REACHED THE MAXIMUM THEY CAN WITHIN THEIR CLASSIFICATION. ALSO I HAVE REQUESTED FOR A WITNESS COORDINATOR. THAT'S ANOTHER PILOT PROGRAM THAT WE'VE DONE OVER THE LAST YEAR. WE TOOK A POSITION FROM OUR BUREAU OF INVESTIGATIONS TO DO A TEMPORARY UNDERFILL FOR A WITNESS COORDINATOR. SO THAT BASICALLY THAT PERSON IS TAKING OFF WORK OFF OF THE ATTORNEY'S WORK OFF OF THE SECRETARIES. AND THEY ARE OUR, OUR PERSON WHO IS IN DIRECT CONTACT WITH THE PUBLIC. THEY ARE TALKING TO WITNESSES. THEY'RE TALKING TO VICTIMS, THEY'RE ARRANGING TRAVEL, THEY'RE ARRANGING TESTIMONY TIME. THEY'RE TALKING WITH OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES AND ARE JUST REALLY THAT CONDUIT TO MAKE SURE THAT CASES CAN PROCEED WITH. AND SO THAT A PERSON IN OUR COMMUNITY DOESN'T HAVE TO CALL A RANDOM NUMBER AND TRY TO FIGURE OUT, HEY, I'M A WITNESS, I WAS SUBPOENAED. WHO DO I TALK TO? WHEN DO I NEED. I NEED TO TESTIFY. WE DECIDED TO DO WHAT SOME OTHER OFFICES HAVE DONE, WHICH IS CONSOLIDATE THAT INTO ONE POSITION. BUT THAT IS NOT A POSITION THAT THE COUNTY HAS. LIKE I SAID, IT'S BEEN A PILOT PROGRAM THAT HAS BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL, AND IT'S SOMETHING I'M ASKING THE BOARD TO SUPPORT GOING FORWARD SO THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO PROVIDE THAT SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY. AS I HAD TALKED ABOUT IN PREVIOUS PRESENTATION, THE HOW SEVERELY UNDERSTAFFED WE ARE AT THE LEGAL SECRETARY LEVEL WITH OTHER COUNTIES HAVING TWICE, IF NOT MORE THAN THAT, THE NUMBER OF, OF LEGAL SECRETARIES THAT SUPPORT THEIR ATTORNEYS. WE'RE IN A POSITION WHERE OUR SECRETARIES SUPPORT MULTIPLE ATTORNEYS, ANYWHERE FROM 3 TO 5 ATTORNEYS, WITH EACH OF THEM HAVING HUNDREDS OF CASES ASSIGNED TO THEM. AND IT'S JUST REALLY BEEN A POSITION THAT WITHOUT ONE, WITHOUT HAVING ANY GROWTH AND TWO WITH HAVING SUCH A HIGH CASE. CASE VOLUME HAS MADE IT HARD FOR US TO RECRUIT, EVEN INTERNALLY, TO EVEN GET OUR CLASSIFICATION OF LEGAL PROCESS CLERK TO APPLY FOR THOSE LEGAL SECRETARY POSITIONS HAS PRETTY MUCH GONE AWAY BECAUSE OF THE CASELOAD BEING SO HIGH AT THE LEGAL SECRETARY LEVEL. AND THAT REALLY IMPACTS OUR ABILITY TO GET POLICE REPORTS TIMELY OVER TO THE DEFENSE TO GET OUR HELP. OUR ATTORNEYS GET PREPARED FOR TRIAL, TO DO JURY INSTRUCTIONS IN TRIAL, EVERYTHING THAT'S NEEDED IN ORDER TO GET THESE CASES, EVERYTHING OVER TO THE DEFENSE AND PREPARED FOR COURT IS THE LEGAL SECRETARIES ARE JUST INTEGRAL TO THAT. AND HAVING THAT LEVEL BE. SO STAFFING BE NOT JUST STAFFING, BUT THE TOTAL NUMBER OF ALLOCATED POSITIONS BEING SO LOW FOR SO LONG IS SOMETHING THAT I'M PUSHING HARD FOR US TO BEGIN THE PROCESS OF RECTIFYING THAT AND HAVE REQUESTED ADDITIONAL POSITIONS. AND THE SAME APPLIES WITH THE DEPUTY DISTRICT ATTORNEYS. WE HAVE ALMOST HALF OF THE STAFFING OF COUNTIES THAT COVER. THEY HAVE THE SAME WORKLOAD THAT WE DO, NOT ONLY WORKLOAD FROM ALL OF OUR LOCAL AGENCIES, BUT ALSO STUFF THAT COMES BACK TO US FROM THE CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS. AND IT IMPACTS OUR ABILITY TO GET CASES FILED, TIMELY PROCESS CASES THROUGH THE SYSTEM, TIMELY. ALL OF THAT IS IMPACTED BY NOT HAVING A SUFFICIENT AMOUNT OF PROSECUTORS IN THE OFFICE. SO THOSE ARE THE REQUESTS FOR THIS YEAR. PROGRAM CHANGES. THERE HAVEN'T BEEN ANY CORE PROGRAM CHANGES THAT TO MENTION HERE. THE MISSION OF THE DA'S OFFICE REMAINS THE SAME PROMOTION OF PUBLIC SAFETY THROUGH AGGRESSIVE CRIMINAL PROSECUTION AND COMMUNITY EDUCATION AND THE CRIME VICTIM ASSISTANCE CENTER. DUTIES OF THE UNIT. IS THERE GOING TO REMAIN THE. [03:00:01] CONSISTENT WITH MANDATED VICTIM CLAIM SERVICES BEING PROVIDED THROUGH AN MOU WITH THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA PURSUANT TO THE GOVERNMENT CODE? DO I ADVANCE IT BY. OKAY. THANK YOU. LET'S SEE IF I DO THIS RIGHT. YES. OKAY. THE NEXT THING IS FISCAL YEAR 2425 ACCOMPLISHMENTS. IT'S BROKEN DOWN INTO TWO DIFFERENT WAYS. WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF TRYING TO TRANSFER ALL OF OUR DATA AND DATA COLLECTION TO A FISCAL YEAR AS OPPOSED TO A CALENDAR YEAR. BUT TRADITIONALLY FOR THE LIFE OF MYSELF AND THE OFFICE, WHICH IS ALMOST 23 YEARS, WE HAVE DONE IT ON THE CALENDAR YEAR. SO FOR THE CALENDAR YEAR OF 2024, WE FILED OVER 6000 CASES. WE HAD 42 TRIALS THAT WENT THROUGH A JURY TRIAL AND COMPLETED. WE CONTINUE TO REMAIN NUMBER TWO IN THE STATEWIDE STATE PRISON COMMITMENTS. THAT IS PER CAPITA THAT WE ARE BEING VERY AGGRESSIVE IN OUR GETTING CRIMINALS OFF OF OUR STREET INTO STATE PRISON. 27 CHILD MOLEST CASES RESOLVING WITH THE COMBINED SENTENCES OF OVER 1300 YEARS PLUS THREE LIFE SENTENCES, FIVE MURDER CASES WITH A COMBINED SENTENCE OF 225 YEARS TO LIFE, PLUS FIVE LIFE SENTENCES AND TWO LIFE WITHOUT POSSIBILITY OF PAROLE SENTENCES. WE HANDLED 162 POST-CONVICTION CASES. THESE ARE CASES THAT OVER THE LAST TEN PLUS YEARS HAVE WE'VE SEEN COMING INTO THE OFFICE FROM CHANGES IN LEGISLATION WHERE PEOPLE HAVE ALREADY BEEN SENTENCED. THEY'RE OFF IN STATE PRISON. YOU KNOW, 20 YEARS AGO, WE WOULDN'T HEAR FROM THEM UNTIL THEIR TIME WAS SERVED AND THEY WERE BACK. BUT NOW, BECAUSE OF CHANGE OF LAW, THE CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS IS GOT SO MANY AVENUES THAT THESE PEOPLE CAN PETITION FOR EARLY RELEASE, SUCH AS PROP 57 AND MANY, MANY OTHERS, WHICH I'LL TALK ABOUT A FEW A LITTLE BIT LATER ON. 171 DOMESTIC VIOLENCE CASES RESOLVED WITH OVER 130 YEARS OF PRISON AND JAIL TIME. AND WE SERVE 3937 VICTIMS AND BROUGHT BACK INTO THE COMMUNITY CLOSE TO $1 MILLION. THAT UNIT AS FAR AS SERVICES TO THE COMMUNITY AND RESTITUTION BACK TO THE VICTIMS ON SPECIFICALLY, WHEN WE LOOK AT THE FISCAL YEAR OF 2425 SOME OF THE LIKE OUTSIDE OF THE CASE WORK STUFF, WE IMPLEMENTED RACE BLIND CHARGING AS REQUIRED BY AB TWO, SEVEN, SEVEN, EIGHT. THAT WAS AN INCREASE IN OUR WORKLOAD AS WELL WITHOUT ANY ADDITIONAL STAFFING. AND UNFORTUNATELY, THAT JUST SLOWS DOWN THE PROCESS. THAT'S A REQUIREMENT OF HAVING TO REVIEW CASES WHEN THEY COME INTO OUR OFFICE AFTER SENDING THEM THROUGH A OR I BELIEVE WE UPLOAD THEM TO A SYSTEM THAT IS GOING TO REDACT ANYTHING THAT COULD RELAY TO THE REVIEWER WHAT THE RACE OF THE PERSON WHO IS POTENTIALLY TO BE CHARGED IS. DO A COMPLETE REVIEW OF THAT CASE, ENTER THAT DATA SO THAT IT GOES TO THE STATE, AND THEN THAT INFORMATION IS THE REDACTED INFORMATION IS THEN RELEASED TO US, AND THEY HAVE TO REVIEW AND GO THROUGH THE CASE AND ENTIRE SECOND TIME MAKE A DECISION, ENTER THAT DATA. THAT AGAIN GOES TO THE STATE. THIS IS A STATEWIDE REQUIREMENT THAT HAS BASICALLY RESULTED IN DOUBLING THE REVIEW TIME ON A VAST MAJORITY OF OUR CASES. WE ALSO IMPLEMENTED PREMIERE ONE AND ADULT PROBATION INTERFACE BOTH WENT LIVE THIS FISCAL YEAR IN ORDER TO HAVE US BE ABLE TO ELECTRONICALLY SHARE INFORMATION AND DATA, AND THAT WAS A LONG PROJECT IN THE PROCESS. WE ALSO IMPLEMENTED OUR PEER SUPPORT, PEER SUPPORT AND WELLNESS PROGRAM. WE HAVE THAT OFTEN RUNNING AND IMPLEMENTED TO THE ENTIRE OFFICE. AS EVERYONE THERE IS IMPACTED IN SOME WAY OR ANOTHER ON CASES INVOLVING CHILD MOLEST OR DEATH OR JUST THE STRESS OF HAVING VERY HIGH CASELOADS. SO SUPPORTING OUR PEOPLE HAS BEEN A BIG PRIORITY. AND WE HAVE A INTERNAL TEAM OF PEOPLE IN ALL THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS WHO PUT THIS PROGRAM TOGETHER AND ARE SPEARHEADING. IM VERY PROUD OF THE WORK THAT THEY'VE DONE FOR THAT. AS FAR AS RECRUITMENT OVER THE LAST FISCAL YEAR, WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO RECRUIT AND ON BOARD THREE LATERAL INVESTIGATORS. THOSE ONE OF THOSE COMING FROM REDDING POLICE DEPARTMENT, ONE FROM THE SACRAMENTO AREA WORKING AS A DETECTIVE AND ONE FROM THE SANTA BARBARA AREA WORKING AS A DETECTIVE. [03:05:01] WE DO STILL HAVE A FEW VACANCIES THAT WE ARE ACTIVELY RECRUITING FOR, BUT GETTING THOSE THREE LATERALS IN THE LAST PROBABLY SIX MONTHS HAS BEEN A VERY GOOD ACCOMPLISHMENT. OVER THE LAST FISCAL YEAR, WE'VE ALSO ONBOARDED AND HIRED FOUR DEPUTY DISTRICT ATTORNEYS. ONE OF THOSE BEING A BRAND NEW FRESH HIRE SOMEONE WHO'S, YOU KNOW, JUST PASSED THE BAR WHILE THE OTHER THREE HAVE BEEN LATERALS. WHICH HAS BEEN A SIGNIFICANT ACCOMPLISHMENT. WE DID GET ONE OF THOSE AS SOMEONE WHO HAD LEFT THE OFFICE TO WORK IN THE CIVIL CIVIL PRACTICE BUT HAS REALLY LOVED THE OFFICE AND IS COMING, HAS COME BACK AND REJOINED THE OFFICE SO THAT THAT WAS A GREAT REHIRE. AND THEN WE DID HAVE TWO PEOPLE THAT WE HIRED IN FROM THAT HAD PREVIOUSLY WORKED AT THE PUBLIC DEFENDER'S OFFICE WHO ARE NOW IN THE OFFICE AND VERY MUCH ENJOYING THE WORK THAT THEY ARE DOING. OVER THE LAST YEAR WE HAVE EXPANDED OUR OUTREACH SERVICES TO SCHOOLS TO DO EVEN MORE WORK TO GO IN AND HELP PREVENT CHILDREN FROM BEING VICTIMS OF ANYTHING, YOU KNOW, CYBER CRIME, TRAFFICKING BULLYING, ALL OF THAT. WE HAVE TRAINED PEOPLE IN OUR CRIME VICTIM ASSISTANCE UNIT THAT'S ACTUALLY, THAT'S GOING OUT NOW SO WE CAN DOUBLE OUR EFFORTS AND REACH MORE SCHOOLS AND MORE LOCAL ORGANIZATIONS THAT WANT THOSE TYPES OF TRAININGS. WE HAVE NEW STAFF WHO IS PRETTY MUCH HANDLING OUR HUMAN RESOURCES FULL TIME NOW AND HAS DONE A LOT TO HELP US WITH OUR CREATING RECRUITMENT AND MATERIALS FOR US TO USE TO HELP US RECRUIT. WE DID OUR FIRST ANNUAL EMPLOYEE OF THE YEAR CEREMONY JUST A COUPLE MONTHS AGO. THAT IS ANOTHER PROJECT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON FOR A WHILE, SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE PROPERLY RECOGNIZE THOSE IN OUR OFFICE WHO HAVE GONE ABOVE AND BEYOND AS FAR AS PROSECUTOR OF THE YEAR, INVESTIGATOR OF THE YEAR, AND, AND SEVERAL OTHER CATEGORIES. WE CONTINUE TO PUT ON OTHER EVENTS AT THE OFFICE TO YOU KNOW, KEEP EVERYBODY KNOWING THAT HOW IMPORTANT THEY ARE. WE DO YOU KNOW, LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, WE DO OUR YEARLY CHRISTMAS PARTY, OUR YEARLY HALLOWEEN PARTY. WE FREQUENTLY HAVE STUFF DURING LUNCH THAT WE DO WITH OUR STAFF AS WELL TO KIND OF BRING EVERYBODY IN TOGETHER. WE WERE ALSO ABLE TO BRING BACK AN EMPLOYEE IN OUR CRIME VICTIM ASSISTANCE CENTER WHO LEFT ABOUT A YEAR, YEAR AND A HALF AGO TO ANOTHER POSITION. HOWEVER, THEY JUST LOVED THE OFFICE AND CAME BACK AND SAID THEY'RE NOT GOING ANYWHERE NOW. THEY ENJOY IT. THEY'RE WORKING IN THE CRIME VICTIM ASSISTANCE CENTER. SO THAT HAS BEEN A GREAT ACCOMPLISHMENT OVER THE LAST YEAR. LET ME MOVE ON. OKAY. THIS BUTTON DOESN'T SEEM TO BE WORKING ON THE SCREEN. TRY THIS ARROW. IT'S HAD ISSUES TODAY. OH, OKAY. GOALS FOR OUR FISCAL YEAR 2526. FIRST AND FOREMOST, MY GOAL CONTINUES TO BE TO STAFF THE OFFICE AT APPROPRIATE LEVELS TO ENSURE PUBLIC SAFETY. THAT'S OUR NUMBER ONE FUNCTION IS PUBLIC SAFETY. UNFORTUNATELY, IF WE CAN'T GET ADDITIONAL POSITIONS AND CREATE ENOUGH POSITIONS IN THE OFFICE TO HANDLE THE WORKLOAD, IT DOES CAUSE ISSUES IF WE'RE ABLE. AND THIS THIS IS REALLY WHERE YOU COME COME IN AS A BOARD OF SUPERVISORS IS HELPING US TO STAFF THE OFFICE AT THE LEVELS THAT WE NEED. IF WE'RE ABLE TO STAFF THE LEVEL, THE OFFICE, WE CAN SHORTEN OUR FILING TIMES. WE HAVE WE CONTINUE TO STRUGGLE WITH THE BACKLOG OF FILING. AND THAT'S PRIMARILY BECAUSE WE'VE GOT A VERY SMALL NUMBER OF LEGAL SECRETARIES WHO ARE AVAILABLE TO, TO PROCESS THOSE CASES. WE GET ABOUT 10,000 CASES PER YEAR THAT COME INTO THE OFFICE. AND THEY ARE THEY HAVE TO TOUCH THE CASE FIRST. IT DOESN'T EVEN COME TO AN ATTORNEY UNTIL WE HAVE LEGAL SECRETARIES WHO CAN GO IN PROCESS THAT CASE, GET IT READY, GET IT ASSIGNED, AND OUT TO THE ATTORNEYS AT THAT POINT, THEN THE ATTORNEYS CAN REVIEW IT, AND THEN IT'S BACK TO THE SECRETARIES FOR ALL THE WORK THAT THEY HAVE TO DO TO FINALIZE GETTING THAT PROCESS, WHETHER IT'S IF WE NEED A WARRANT TYPE, GET THE COMPLAINTS READY, GET EVERYTHING PROCESSED AND OVER TO THE COURT. SO WITH THE SHORT STAFFING OF ONLY HAVING TEN LEGAL SECRETARIES, WELL, EIGHT LEGAL SECRETARIES AND TWO SUPERVISING WHO ALSO ARE WORKING SECRETARIES. [03:10:01] SO A TOTAL OF 210 SECRETARIES HAS REALLY NOT BEEN ABLE TO KEEP UP WITH THAT CASELOAD BECAUSE, AS I MENTIONED, OTHER OTHER COUNTIES THAT HAVE THAT LEVEL OF CASES PROCESSING HAVE SIGNIFICANTLY MORE STAFF AT THIS LEVEL. SO WE WE ARE MANY, MANY MONTHS BEHIND, ESPECIALLY ON MISDEMEANOR FILING, BUT AS WELL AS FELONY FILING, JUST BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE STAFFING TO PROCESS THOSE CASES. THAT THEN ROLLS INTO ATTORNEY TIME TO REVIEW THOSE CASES AS WELL. IF WE'RE ABLE TO STAFF THE LEVEL OFFICE AT THE APPROPRIATE LEVELS, IT DECREASES THE NUMBER OF CONTINUANCES WE'RE ABLE TO. THE SECRETARIES ARE THE ONES WHO ARE ORDERING OUR DISCOVERY, MEANING OUR POLICE REPORTS, OUR VIDEOS, OUR EVERYTHING THAT WE NEED TO PROVIDE TO THE DEFENSE AND HELPING GET THAT DONE AND ATTORNEY TIME WITH THE NUMBER OF CASES. SO IF WE'RE ABLE TO INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF STAFFING THAT WE HAVE, WE ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO DECREASE THE NUMBER OF CONTINUANCES, WHICH IN TURN LESSENS THE TIME UNTIL A CASE IS COMPLETED. RIGHT NOW CASES, IT'S NOT INFREQUENT FOR CASES TO TAKE, YOU KNOW, WELL OVER A YEAR, ESPECIALLY IF THEY'RE GOING TO GO TO TRIAL, SOMETIMES TWO YEARS. WE HAVE CASES THAT ARE THREE OR 4 OR 5 YEARS OLD THAT CONTINUE TO GET PUSHED BECAUSE THERE'S NOT ENOUGH STAFFING. AND, AND I PRESENTED ON THIS ALREADY, BUT IT COMES DOWN TO NOT HAVING ENOUGH COURT STAFFING AS WELL OR, STAFFING IN MY OFFICE, SO THAT LESSENS THE TIME TO COMPLETION OF THE CASE, AS WELL AS SHORTENING THE TIME BETWEEN A CASE RECEIVED AND BEING ABLE TO REACH OUT TO VICTIMS. VICTIMS. THEY DESERVE TO BE CONTACTED AS SOON AS THE CASE HITS OUR OFFICE, IF NOT BEFORE. IF WE CAN, WE SIMPLY DON'T HAVE THE RESOURCES TO DO THAT. SO THAT IS ANOTHER WAY THAT THE OFFICE DOES SUFFER WHEN WE DO NOT HAVE STAFFING LEVELS ALLOCATED TO OUR OFFICE, THAT IS AT THE LEVEL THAT WE NEED FOR THE AMOUNT OF CASES THAT COME INTO OUR OFFICE. AND THE BOTTOM LINE IS IT INCREASES OFFENDER ACCOUNTABILITY. WHEN WE'RE ABLE TO HAVE THE STAFFING LEVELS THAT WE NEED. WE CAN WE CAN HOLD THOSE OFFENDERS ACCOUNTABLE BECAUSE IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW MANY CASES OR HOW MANY OFFENDERS ARE ARRESTED BY THE READING POLICE DEPARTMENT, THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, ANY OF THEM. EACH OF THOSE OFFENDERS, THEY'LL GET OUT OF CUSTODY WITHIN 48 HOURS IF WE ARE NOT ABLE TO REVIEW THE CASE, PROCESS THE CASE, GET IT TO COURT AND HAVE THE STAFFING TO GO THERE AND HANDLE THOSE CASES AND FIGHT TO KEEP THEM IN CUSTODY AND FIGHT FOR THEM TO BE HELD RESPONSIBILITY THROUGH THE ENTIRE LIFE OF THE CASE. ANOTHER GOAL FOR 2526 IS TO DESIGN AND LAUNCH OUR STAT DRIVEN DASHBOARD. THIS IS A DASHBOARD THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON FOR QUITE A WHILE. IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE BELIEVE WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET DONE DURING THIS NEXT FISCAL YEAR, IF NOT BY THE END OF THIS CALENDAR YEAR. THAT IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO SHOW DATA TO THE COMMUNITY ON A LOT OF THE THINGS I JUST TALKED ABOUT AS FAR AS CASE PROCESSING TIME, CASE COMPLETION TIME. WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO SLOWLY BUILD IN AS MANY PARAMETERS AS WE CAN FOR THE COMMUNITY FOR THAT. ANOTHER GOAL IS TO WORK TO IMPLEMENT PROP 36 TREATMENT MANDATED FELONY PROGRAM. SO A PART OF PROP 36. ONE PART IS THE THEFT PART, BUT THE OTHER IS THE MAKING. YOU KNOW, AS THE SHERIFF MENTIONED, MAKING DRUGS ILLEGAL AGAIN. BUT ONE OF THE THINGS IS MAKING IT ILLEGAL AS A FELONY IS THAT THE LAW SAYS THAT IT IS A TREATMENT MANDATED FELONY THE VERY FIRST TIME THEY GET THAT. SO WE ARE WORKING NOT ONLY WITH THE COURTS, BUT WITH HHS AND THE PUBLIC DEFENDER'S OFFICE TO REALLY GET THAT PROGRAM IN LINE. IT'S NOT COMPLETELY FINALIZED YET, BUT WE'VE BEEN WORKING COLLABORATIVELY TO GET THAT PROGRAM TOGETHER. ANOTHER GOAL, WHICH IS TO GET A NEW ROOF FOR THE OFFICE. IT IS IT IS IN THE BUDGET. AND I'M VERY HOPEFUL. IT'S SOMETHING WE'VE BEEN STRUGGLING WITH FOR A COUPLE YEARS IS TO GET A ROOF FOR OUR OFFICE. WE HAD TO RELOCATE EMPLOYEES MULTIPLE TIMES THIS PAST WINTER BASED ON JUST RAIN LITERALLY COMING THROUGH THE ROOF ON ONTO THEIR COMPUTERS AND INTO THEIR WORKSTATION. ANOTHER GOAL IS TO CONTINUE TO LEVERAGE TECHNOLOGY. THAT'S A BIG ADVANCEMENT THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON HAS BEEN AN IMPORTANT THING FOR ME OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS, IS TO FIND WHERE CAN WE BRING THE OFFICE INTO THE NEW CENTURY AND CATCH UP WITH TECHNOLOGY, BECAUSE WE WERE REALLY FAR BEHIND WHEN I CAME INTO THIS POSITION, AND WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO BRING A LOT OF THINGS AND MAKE IT TECHNOLOGY A LOT, MAKE KEEP UP WITH TECHNOLOGY BY GETTING LIKE A NEW CASE MANAGEMENT SYSTEM, A WAY TO KEEP OUR BODY WORN CAMERAS AND JUST OTHER WAYS TO, [03:15:04] TO LEVERAGE TECHNOLOGY. AND WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO LOOK FOR THAT BECAUSE TECHNOLOGY IS GOING TO IMPROVE OUR EFFICIENCIES. IT HELPS US HAVE A LESS NEED FOR AS MANY PEOPLE. IT CAN DECREASE COSTS, COSTS OVERALL. SO WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO LOOK FOR ADDITIONAL WAYS TO LEVERAGE TECHNOLOGY. AND WE ARE ALSO STARTING OUR OUR DRONE PROJECT. GETTING A DRONE THIS YEAR, WE'VE HAD A VERY SMALL DRONE THAT WE'VE USED TO HELP AT CRIME SCENES OR WHEN WE NEED STUFF FOR COURT. BUT WE ARE EXPANDING THAT OVER THIS NEXT YEAR. GRANT AND OTHER FUNDING. THREE APPLICATIONS WERE SUBMITTED FOR THE 2526 YEAR. WE DO EXPECT TO GET GET. THESE ARE ONES THAT WE GET EVERY YEAR OVER 400,000 FROM CALIFORNIA OFFICE OF EMERGENCY SERVICES. AND THAT'S FOR OUR VICTIMS ASSISTANCE CENTER. IT PAYS A PORTION OF OF WHAT WE NEED TO RUN THAT DEPARTMENT. 88,000 CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT OF INSURANCE TO INVESTIGATE AND PROSECUTE AUTO INSURANCE FRAUD CASES. SO THAT'S INVESTIGATOR AND PART OF AN ATTORNEY AND 215,000 ALSO FROM THE CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT OF INSURANCE TO INVESTIGATE AND PROSECUTE WORKERS COMPENSATION FRAUD. WE ARE REVIEWING TWO ADDITIONAL GRANT OPPORTUNITIES. ONE IS FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT, MENTAL HEALTH AND WELLNESS, AND THAT IS A US DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE GRANT. I BELIEVE THAT'S AROUND 200 000 FOR OVER A TWO YEAR PERIOD THAT WE'RE HOPING TO APPLY FOR AND POTENTIALLY GET THAT. AND THEN ANOTHER ONE FOR OUR BULLETPROOF VESTS THAT WE ARE IN NEED OF SOME REPLACEMENT. AND THAT IS A US DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE. AND I BELIEVE THAT WOULD BE JUST BASED ON THE NEED OF, OF HOW MUCH OURS IS, I THINK AROUND APPROXIMATELY $10,000. WE ALSO GET 1.158 MILLION FROM HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES THROUGH A SERVICE AGREEMENT TO INVESTIGATE AND PROSECUTE BOTH WELFARE FRAUD AND IN HOME SUPPORT SERVICES FRAUD THAT OCCURS IN OUR COUNTY. THAT AMOUNT HAS ALREADY BEEN AWARDED THROUGH THE SERVICE AGREEMENT FOR THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR AS WELL. AND 595,000 FROM THE CALIFORNIA VICTIM COMPENSATION BOARD, THROUGH A JOINT POWERS AGREEMENT TO PROVIDE RESTORATIVE FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE TO VICTIMS. AND SO THAT'S ALSO GOING TO GO TO THE CRIME VICTIM ASSISTANCE CENTER WITH THE SAME AMOUNT ALREADY AWARDED FOR THE NEXT YEAR. I PUT THIS IN HERE BECAUSE I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE BOARD AND THE COMMUNITY TO KNOW THAT HISTORICALLY, PROSECUTOR'S OFFICES USED TO GET MANY GRANTS THAT WE JUST SIMPLY AREN'T EVEN OFFERED ANYMORE AT THE STATE LEVEL. WE USED TO HAVE A CHILD ABUSE GRANT THAT PAID THE PAID FOR THE PROSECUTORS IN THE OFFICE WHO HANDLED CHILD PHYSICAL ABUSE AND SEXUAL ABUSE. THAT WAS A LONG TERM GRANT THAT I KNOW I BUILD MY TIME FOR, BACK WHEN I HANDLED THOSE CASES SIMPLY IS NOT OFFERED ANYMORE FOR STATUTORY RAPE CASES WERE COVERED BY A GRANT. THE PROSECUTION OF THOSE PROSECUTION INVESTIGATOR AND THE VICTIM ADVOCATES WERE ALL IMPACTED ACROSS ALL OF THESE GRANTS. WE HAD DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, PROSECUTION GRANTS, ELDER ABUSE, MAJOR NARCOTICS. WE HAD A FELONY DRIVING UNDER THE INFLUENCE GRANT, A MISDEMEANOR, DRIVING UNDER THE INFLUENCE GRANT. AND ALL OF THOSE HAVE BEEN DISCONTINUED, ESPECIALLY OVER THE LAST 10 TO 15 YEARS, BECAUSE AS WE'VE SEEN FROM THE THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE TO OUR LEGISLATURES, THEY THEY DO NOT SUPPORT A TOUGH ON CRIME. SO THESE GRANTS ARE OPPORTUNITIES ARE NOT BEING OFFERED ANYMORE. WE DO SEE MORE GRANTS MAYBE ON THE PUBLIC DEFENDER SIDE OR PROBATION SIDE OR MORE SOCIAL SERVICES SIDES WHERE BACK WHEN WE GOT THESE GRANTS, PROBATION PUBLIC DEFENDERS, THEY WEREN'T GETTING GRANTS. SO THE THE STATE SEEMS TO KEEP FLIP FLOPPING BETWEEN WHO GETS GRANTS AND WHO DOESN'T. AND IT DOESN'T SERVE THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE AND WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW. WE'RE ON THE RECEIVING END. AND UNFORTUNATELY, THAT THEN FALLS TO YOU GUYS AS WELL AS THE COMMUNITY TO BE THE MAIN SOURCE OF FUNDING FOR THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. GENERAL, WHEN WE LOOK JUST AT GENERAL FUND CONTRIBUTION IN 2425 AT THE ADOPTED GENERAL FUND, CONTRIBUTION BY THE COUNTY WAS 10,486,000. [03:20:05] NOW OF THAT, WE ARE ESTIMATING OBVIOUSLY, THE FISCAL YEAR IS NOT OVER YET, BUT WE LOOK LIKE WE SHOULD BE RETURNING TO THE COUNTY ABOUT $1.2 MILLION. THAT WAS NOT USED PRIMARILY THROUGH STAFFING SHORTAGES, POSITIONS THAT WERE UNABLE TO BE FILLED DURING THIS TIME PERIOD. AND I PUT THAT UP THERE BECAUSE I THAT'S TO ME, THAT IS IMPORTANT IN THAT I WOULD BE REQUESTING FOR THE BOARD TO KEEP IN MIND A, A ROLLOVER OF THAT USE OF MONEY TO HELP EXPAND AND FUND THE DAS OFFICE GOING FORWARD. NOW, I MADE A REQUEST OF AND THIS IS AGAIN, JUST LOOKING AT GENERAL FUND CONTRIBUTION TO COME IN AT 12.9 MILLION. AND YES, THIS IS A INCREASE OF $2.4 MILLION, WHICH WAS NOT APPROVED AT THE COUNTY LEVEL. AND THAT'S WHY NOT ONLY AM I PRESENTING TO YOU ON BEHALF OF THE BUDGET FOR THE D. A S OFFICE, BUT ALSO APPEALING WHAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU AS THE RECOMMENDED BUDGET. AND THAT'S WHY I SAY 2.4 MILLION CUT CUT FROM THE REQUEST THAT I HAVE BUDGETED AS NEEDED TO GIVE THE SERVICES TO THE COMMUNITY THAT THAT THEY DESERVE. THE RECOMMENDED BUDGET CAME IN AT 11,122,000. AND AGAIN AS GENERAL FUND CONTRIBUTION. AND I PUT THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S AN INCREASE OF A LITTLE OVER 600,000. AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT IN 2425, WE DID GET ABOUT THAT AMOUNT FOR ARPA FUNDING, WHICH WE DON'T GET ANYMORE, BUT THE COUNTY IS STILL PUTTING IN THE MONEY FOR THOSE POSITIONS. AND THOSE ARE THE POSITIONS THAT ARE GOING TO BE SUPPORTING, LIKE OUR PROSECUTOR THAT HANDLES THE MARIJUANA ERADICATION AND OTHER DRUG CASES, AS WELL AS THE INVESTIGATOR THAT WE'VE, UP UNTIL WITHIN JUST THE LAST COUPLE MONTHS, HAVE BEEN ABLE TO HAVE A FULL TIME INVESTIGATOR ON THAT MARIJUANA ERADICATION TEAM AS WELL. SO THE OVERALL RECOMMENDATION, WHEN WE BREAK IT DOWN INTO THE TWO CATEGORIES THAT I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT, IS THAT THE RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO REDUCE FROM MY REQUEST THE SALARY AND BENEFITS BY A LITTLE OVER $1 MILLION, AND REDUCE SERVICES AND SUPPLIES BY 344,000. SO TO MOVE INTO THE KIND OF THE APPEAL PART, AND THIS IS WHERE I WOULD BE REQUESTING TO GET SOME OF THAT MONEY THAT WAS CUT BACK CUT FROM MY REQUEST. AND THESE ARE THE AREAS I'M GOING TO COVER. PUBLIC SAFETY. IT REALLY IS A CONSTITUTIONAL PRIORITY. THE WORKLOAD IN THE OFFICE TECHNOLOGY ISSUES, UNFUNDED MANDATES PROSECUTION BEING CENTRAL TO PUBLIC SAFETY. AND THE RESULTS OF A CUT FROM MY REQUESTED BUDGET, WHAT THAT ACTUALLY MEANS TO THE, TO THE COMMUNITY AND HOW YOU'RE ABLE TO HELP PROVIDE THOSE BETTER SERVICES TO THE COMMUNITY BY YOUR YOUR VOTE. SO THOSE ARE THE AREAS THAT I'M GOING TO COVER. FIRST AND FOREMOST, PUBLIC SAFETY AS A CONSTITUTIONAL PRIORITY. THE CALIFORNIA CONSTITUTION HAS IT WRITTEN RIGHT IN THERE. PUBLIC SAFETY IS THE FIRST PRIORITY OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT. AND LOCAL OFFICIALS HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO GIVE PRIORITY TO THE PROVISIONS OF ADEQUATE PUBLIC SAFETY. WORKLOAD. I DON'T WANT TO GO INTO MY ENTIRE 227 PRESENTATION. SO I JUST KIND OF PULLED IN THE TWO SUMMARY SLIDES AND PUT THEM TOGETHER INTO ONE. SO OBVIOUSLY ANYONE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT THAT FULL PRESENTATION. BUT WHEN WE MADE THE DIFFERENT COMPARISONS THAT I ANALYZED STATEWIDE, WE HAVE A 30% HIGHER WORKLOAD THAN COUNTIES WITH SIMILAR SIZE COURTS AND NUMBER OF JUDGES. WE HAVE 13 JUDICIAL OFFICERS AND OTHER COUNTIES THAT HAVE BETWEEN. I BELIEVE IT WAS 11 AND 15 JUDICIAL OFFICERS. THEY HAVE. WE STILL HAVE A 30% HIGHER WORKLOAD THAN THEY DO. AND EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE A 30% HIGHER WORKLOAD, WE STILL ONLY HAVE 28 PROSECUTORS, WHERE ON AVERAGE THEY HAVE 36 LEGAL SECRETARY EQUIVALENT, THEY HAVE TEN. WHEN WE HAVE AN AVERAGE OF 15. THE SECOND COMPARISON I DID WAS COUNTIES WITH A SIMILAR WORKLOAD HAVING THE SIMILAR INPUT FROM THEIR JUSTICE PARTNERS. THEY HAD WE AGAIN, 28 PROSECUTORS WHERE THEY HAD AN AVERAGE OF 58 PROSECUTORS HANDLING THE SAME WORKLOAD THAT WE HAVE. LEGAL SECRETARY EQUIVALENT, US HAVING TEN AND THEM HAVING 26. SO THIS IS JUST TO KIND OF RE-EMPHASIZE THAT THE NEED TO TO START SLOWLY ADDING STAFF OVER THE YEARS IS IMPERATIVE IF WE WANT TO GIVE THE COMMUNITY THE SERVICE LEVEL OF SERVICE [03:25:06] THAT THEY ARE ENTITLED TO AND WHICH WE WANT TO PROVIDE FOR THEM, BUT CAN ONLY DO IF WE ARE AT THE LEVELS, UNFORTUNATELY, WITHOUT ADDING ADDITIONAL POSITIONS THAT WE CAN RECRUIT FOR. WE'RE CONTINUED IN THIS LOOP OF PEOPLE WORKING, YOU KNOW, SEVEN DAYS A WEEK, TEN, 12 HOURS A DAY. A LOT OF TIME BECAUSE THEY'RE PASSIONATE, THEY'RE DOING GOOD WORK, THEY'RE GETTING GOOD RESULTS. BUT THAT, THAT LEADS TO BURNOUT AND IT LEADS TO A TURNOVER IN THE OFFICE. AND WE'VE GOT TO START ADDRESSING THAT INCREMENTALLY. I KNOW WE CAN'T. I KNOW YOU CAN'T GIVE ME 58 PROSECUTORS RIGHT NOW OR 26 LEGAL SECRETARIES, THOUGH THAT IS POTENTIALLY THE LEVEL THAT WE ULTIMATELY ULTIMATELY MAY NEED. BUT STARTING TO CHIP AWAY AT THAT TO PROMOTE PUBLIC SAFETY IS, IS WHAT I'M ASKING FOR. TECHNOLOGY. TECHNOLOGY IS ONE OF A THING THAT CAN REALLY HELP US IN STREAMLINING, BUT IT CAN ALSO MAKE IT HARDER. AND WHEN THE TECHNOLOGY IS FOR EXAMPLE, I TALKED AT LENGTH ABOUT RACE BLIND CHARGING. WE HAD TO EMPLOY NEW TECHNOLOGY, PURCHASE A NEW SYSTEM IN ORDER TO IMPLEMENT THAT BECAUSE WE ARE REQUIRED BY THE LEGISLATURE, BUT IT SLOWS DOWN OUR WORK BECAUSE WE HAVE TO DOUBLE REVIEW THOSE CASES. BODY WORN CAMERAS IS ANOTHER ONE. AND IT'S IT'S REALLY THE BIGGEST THING RIGHT NOW THAT I WANT YOU TO THINK ABOUT AND FOCUS ON, BECAUSE WE HAD THE REDDING POLICE DEPARTMENT WENT TO BODY WORN CAMERAS A LITTLE OVER A YEAR AND A HALF AGO. AT THAT TIME, THEY HAD CLOSE TO 100 OFFICERS. I THINK THEY HAVE A LITTLE BIT LESS NOW, BUT WITH THAT MANY PEOPLE HAVING BODY WORN CAMERAS THAT MANY OFFICERS, THAT CAUSES AN EXPONENTIAL INCREASE IN WORKLOAD THROUGHOUT MY ENTIRE OFFICE. IF YOU TAKE THE EXAMPLE OF JUST A LIKE A DRIVING UNDER THE INFLUENCE CASE, PRE BODY WORN CAMERA, THAT STOP COULD BE 2 OR 3 HOURS LONG LIKE IT IS NOW, BUT IT WASN'T ON BODY WORN CAMERA. IT RESULTED IN A POLICE REPORT TO US. WE WOULD HAVE THE REPORT MAYBE TEN PAGES LONG ALONG WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE BLOOD RESULTS. WE AYE A SEASONED ATTORNEY COULD READ REVIEW PROCESS, GET THAT CASE READY AND, YOU KNOW, LESS THAN AN HOUR TO READ THAT AND MAKE A FILING DECISION, IF NOT LESS THAN 30 MINUTES TO READ THAT MUCH. BUT NOW AND THEN AGAIN, PREPARING IT FOR SETTLEMENT, CONFERENCE AND TRIAL. STILL, YOU'RE WORKING OFF THE POLICE REPORT. NOW WE ON TOP OF THAT, WE HAVE THE WORK. WE'VE ALWAYS HAD THE REPORT AND THE RESULTS. AND WE'VE GOT A THREE HOUR VIDEO TO WATCH. AND WHILE I FULLY BELIEVE AND THINK BODY WORN CAMERAS ARE A VERY GOOD THING, THEY ALSO COME WITH A LOT OF ADDITIONAL WORK ON DA OFFICES BECAUSE WHEN WE RECEIVE THAT CLOSE TO TEN 000 CASES PER YEAR WITH ABOUT, I BELIEVE THE PERCENTAGE IS 52% OF THOSE CASES, MAYBE 58. DON'T QUOTE ME, I DON'T HAVE IT RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME. BUT OVER 50% OF OUR CASES COME FROM THE READING TO POLICE DEPARTMENT. SO RIGHT OFF THE TOP 5000 OF THOSE CASES NOW ARE NOT JUST POLICE REPORTS, BUT THEY'RE ALSO HOURS AND HOURS AND HOURS OF BODY WORN CAMERA. AND WE HAVE AN ETHICAL OBLIGATION TO OBTAIN THAT THOSE THOSE THOSE VIDEOS PROVIDE THEM TO DEFENSE. WE HAVE TO REVIEW THOSE THAT FOOTAGE. AND THAT IS A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TIME AND WORK THAT WAS ADDED ON TO OUR OFFICE A YEAR AND A HALF AGO, JUST BY THE REDDING POLICE DEPARTMENT, GOING LIVE WITH BODY WORN CAMERAS. NOW, WHAT WE HAVE IS THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE IS ABOUT TO GO LIVE WITH BODY WORN CAMERAS AS WELL, WITH A LARGE NUMBER OF DEPUTIES WHO WILL BE WEARING THOSE. AND, YOU KNOW, CLOSE TO $1 MILLION BEING ALLOCATED FOR THAT PROGRAM TO THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, WHICH INCLUDED ADDITIONAL STAFFING AND THE NEED AND THE CAMERAS THEMSELVES AND EVERYTHING TO GET THAT PROGRAM OFF AND RUNNING. IT'S A GREAT PROGRAM. IT'S IT'S SOMETHING I SUPPORT, BUT IT HASN'T BEEN TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION. THE ADDITIONAL WORKLOAD, ONCE AGAIN, THAT THAT'S GOING TO PUT ON TO MY OFFICE, WHICH IS ALMOST GOING. THE AMOUNT OF CASES THAT THEY SEND TO US IS I SHOULD PULL THAT OUT. I DO HAVE IT IN MY STACK HERE, BUT IT'S AROUND 15% OF OUR CASES COMES FROM THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. SO THAT'S ADDING ON TOP OF THE REDDING POLICE DEPARTMENT. AMOUNT OF CASES WE GET FROM THEM. WE SIMPLY CAN'T CONTINUE TO HAVE HOURS AND HOURS OF VIDEO SURVEILLANCE BEING ADDED TO [03:30:05] OUR WORKLOAD AND STAY AT OUR STATUS QUO, WHICH IS ALREADY ABOUT HALF OF THE STAFFING THAT WE NEED TO PROPERLY PROVIDE SERVICES FOR OUR COMMUNITY. WHILE OUR PARTNERS CONTINUE TO INCREASE STAFF AND INCREASE THEIR TECHNOLOGY. THAT ALL LANDS ON MY OFFICE AND MY PEOPLE TO REVIEW AND DO THAT WORK. I'VE ALSO BEEN TALKED TO THE LOCAL CHIEF FOR CALIFORNIA HIGHWAY PATROL, AND HE INFORMS ME THAT BEFORE THE END OF THIS CALENDAR YEAR, THEY WILL HAVE BODY WORN CAMERAS ON CHP OFFICERS HERE IN SHASTA COUNTY AS WELL. THAT'S GOING TO BE HE SAID, CLOSE TO 70 CALIFORNIA HIGHWAY PATROL OFFICERS THAT ARE HERE THAT ARE GOING TO HAVE THOSE CAMERAS AS WELL. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, ANOTHER 150 APPROXIMATE SWORN OFFICERS THROUGHOUT OUR COUNTY THAT ARE ABOUT TO GET BODY WORN CAMERAS, AND THAT IS GOING TO BE A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT TO OUR OFFICE. ALL IT'S GOING TO DO WITHOUT OUR OFFICE GETTING ANY ADDITIONAL RESOURCES IS IT'S GOING TO CONTINUE TO SLOW DOWN FILING TIMES, CONTINUE TO DRAG OUT HOW LONG CASES TAKE, CONTINUE TO HAVE CONTINUANCES. AND OUR ATTORNEYS SIMPLY NOT HAVING THE TIME AND OUR SECRETARIES THE TIME TO BE PROPERLY READY ON THOSE CASES, BECAUSE THERE IS ONLY ENOUGH HOURS IN THE DAY TO REVIEW CASES AND PREPARE THEM. AND AS OUR WORKLOAD EXPONENTIALLY GOES UP, SOMETHING HAS TO BE DONE ABOUT IT. SO WEAR BODY WORN CAMERAS ARE A GREAT THING. I FULLY SUPPORT THEM. IT'S SOMETHING THAT HAS HAD A TREMENDOUS IMPACT AND WILL CONTINUE TO HAVE A TREMENDOUS IMPACT ON MY OFFICE, WHICH IS WHAT I BUILT INTO THE REQUESTS THAT I'VE MADE FOR THIS YEAR GOING FORWARD, AS FAR AS OUR STAFFING NEED THAT WE NEED TO START GETTING TO THE LEVEL OF SERVICES THAT WE NEED. ANOTHER THING THAT HAS IMPACTED OUR NEED FOR ADDITIONAL STAFFING THAT HAS GONE LARGELY, IF NOT COMPLETELY UNFUNDED, IS LEGISLATION. BOTH PREVIOUS LEGISLATION AND PENDING LEGISLATION OVER THE LAST 10 TO 15 YEARS, AS WE'VE LOST THE ABILITY TO GET ANY PROSECUTION GRANTS. THE LAW HAS BEEN CHANGING AND REALLY DECRIMINALIZING CASE CRIMINAL CONDUCT AND INCREASING OUR RESPONSIBILITIES. WE HAVE HOMICIDE CASES FROM THE 80S, FROM THE 90S, FROM THE EARLY 2000. THEY ARE ALL COMING BACK TO US. OUR PROSECUTORS HAVE STACKS OF BOXES IN THEIR OFFICE. I WATCH SOMEONE WHEEL A DOLLY INTO AN OFFICE THE OTHER DAY WITH 5 OR 6 BOXES FROM A HOMICIDE CASE FROM THE 1990S. THAT HAS TO BE REVIEWED AGAIN, INCLUDING THE FULL COURT TRANSCRIPT, ALL OF THE REPORTS, EVERYTHING IN ORDER TO FIGHT TO KEEP THAT MURDERER IN PRISON. THIS IS SOMETHING WE DID NOT DO FIVE, TEN YEARS AGO. AND THIS IS SOMETHING IN THE CHANGE OF THE LAW THAT CAME FORWARD WITH NO ADDITIONAL ATTORNEYS, NO ADDITIONAL STAFF, NOTHING ADDITIONAL TO THE OFFICE. ON TOP OF EVERYTHING ELSE, WE HAVE BEEN AT THAT SAME LEVEL FOR A VERY LONG TIME. ALONG WITH PEOPLE WHO GO OFF TO PRISON NOW WHERE WE USED TO BE ABLE TO SAY, OKAY, YOU GOT A 30 YEAR PRISON SENTENCE VICTIMS, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GET OUT UNTIL 25 YEARS, WHATEVER THE FORMULA MAY BE BASED ON HOW MANY CREDITS THEY WOULD GET UNDER THEIR CASE, WE COULD CALCULATE THAT FOR THEM. WE CAN'T NOW BECAUSE AFTER PROP 57 AND OTHER RE SENTENCING LAWS, THEY ARE NOW BEING ABLE TO PETITION TO GET OUT EARLY. AND WE ARE THE ONES THAT HAVE TO FIGHT THOSE. WE ARE FIGHTING TO KEEP PEOPLE IN PRISON, NOT JUST ON MURDER CASES, BUT ON A VAST MAJORITY OF OUR CASES. AND, AND WHILE I, I THINK THAT'S AMAZING THAT THE PUBLIC DEFENDER'S OFFICE GOT A GRANT THAT WAS TALKED ABOUT ABOUT 650,000, I BELIEVE, FOR RESENTENCING FIGHTING, THOSE THAT ARE COMING BACK. THAT'S THAT IMBALANCE THAT I'M TALKING TO YOU ABOUT, THAT FUNDING THE DA'S OFFICE, WHO HAS TO DO THAT SAME FIGHTING WORK FROM THE OTHER SIDE TO KEEP THEM IN PRISON, ARE NOT GETTING THE FUNDING. IT'S JUST A REFLECTION OF A CONTINUED EFFORT BY THE STATE TO NOT ONLY DECRIMINALIZE, BUT UNFUND OR NOT FUND DA'S OFFICES WITH GRANTS OR OTHER THINGS THAT WE NEED IN ORDER TO FIGHT THIS NEW CHANGING LEGISLATION. IT'S HERE. LET'S MAKE THE LAW TOUGHER. LET'S GIVE PEOPLE WAYS TO GET OUT OF PRISON EARLIER, AND THEN LET'S NOT GIVE DA OFFICES ANY FUNDING TO FIGHT THAT. AND LET'S GIVE A LOT OF MONEY TO THE PUBLIC DEFENDER'S OFFICE TO MAKE SURE THEY GET OUT EARLY. AND THAT'S JUST WHAT THE LEGISLATURE HAS HANDED US 15 YEARS, 20 YEARS AGO. IT WAS THE OPPOSITE. WE GOT THE FUNDING AND THEY DIDN'T. [03:35:02] THERE THERE NEEDS TO BE A BALANCE. BUT WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW IS WE CONTINUE TO GET HIT. AND THAT'S JUST A COUPLE OF THE CHANGES IN THE LAW. I MEAN, EVERY YEAR, 2 OR 3 DIFFERENT THINGS, I COULD LITERALLY COME IN HERE AND GIVE YOU AN EIGHT HOUR PRESENTATION OF ALL THE CHANGES IN THE LAW OVER THE LAST TEN YEARS. AND IT DOESN'T STOP THERE. WE'VE GOT PENDING LEGISLATION THAT IS OUT THERE RIGHT NOW, FOR EXAMPLE, THE CHANGES IN THE LAW AS IT COMES TO INDIVIDUALS UNDER THE AGE OF 26 BEING ELIGIBLE FOR PAROLE, EVEN IF THEY'RE IF THEY COMMITTED MURDER AND ARE SENTENCED TO LIFE WITHOUT POSSIBILITY OF PAROLE. NOW THEY'VE CHANGED THAT. YOU GET A LIFE WITHOUT POSSIBILITY OF PAROLE. THEY'RE TRYING TO CHANGE THAT. WE'RE GOING TO GIVE THEM THAT ABILITY TO GET OUT EARLY. AND EVERY PERSON THAT GETS AN ABILITY TO GET PAROLE IS ANOTHER PERSON THAT COMES BACK TO OUR OFFICE BECAUSE WE FIGHT PAROLE CASES. EVERYONE WE'VE PUT IN PRISON FOR MURDER WHEN THEIR PAROLE HEARING IS UP. WE'RE WORKING ON THAT. WE ARE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN TO FIGHT AND KEEP THOSE OFFENDERS IN IN CUSTODY. PROSECUTION IS REALLY CENTRAL TO PUBLIC SAFETY. IT REALLY IS. WE BRAINSTORMED ALL THE AGENCIES THAT COME INTO OUR OFFICE FROM THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, SAID TIFF, REDDING POLICE DEPARTMENT, ANDERSON POLICE DEPARTMENT, ATTORNEY GENERAL, ALCOHOL AND BEVERAGE CONTROL, NATIONAL PARK SERVICES, SHASTA COUNTY ELECTIONS, CHP PAROLE, DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE, THE PROBATION DEPARTMENT, REDDING FIRE DEPARTMENT, CAL FIRE DEPARTMENT OF FISH AND WILDLIFE COURT TRANSFERS, U.S. FOREST SERVICE. OUR OWN DAS OFFICE CREATES CASES IN OVER 20 OTHER SMALLER AGENCIES THAT ON ANY GIVEN YEAR, ALL THE WORK THAT THEY DO TO MAKE ARRESTS AND AND UPHOLD THE LAW THAT THAT'S WHERE IT IT KIND OF STOPS BECAUSE IF THERE'S NOT A DAS OFFICE, IT'S IT STOPS THERE. IT STOPS THE ARREST AND RELEASE. WE HAVE TO HAVE THE DAS OFFICE BECAUSE ALL OF THEM FUNNEL ALL OF THEIR CASES AND ALL OF THEIR WORK INTO THE DA'S OFFICE. AND THEN THE ONLY WAY THE COURTS, PRIVATE DEFENSE ATTORNEYS, PUBLIC DEFENDERS, CONFLICT OFFENDERS, THE JAIL, PROBATION, ALL OF THOSE CONTINUE TO HAVE WORK IS BECAUSE THE CASE HAVE COME FROM THOSE BLUE AGENCIES THAT I PUT UP THERE. WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO REVIEW, PROCESS, FILE AND ARE NOW IN COURT LIVING WITH THOSE CASES FOR MULTIPLE YEARS, FIGHTING THOSE CASES TO HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE AND PRODUCING THE WORK FOR ALL THE OTHER PARTNERS. SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY, WE MIGHT NOT BE THE MOST VISIBLE LIKE A JAIL OR LIKE SHERIFF'S DEPUTIES OR REDDING POLICE OFFICER. ANDERSON POLICE OFFICER. THE COMMUNITY SEES THEM DRIVING AROUND RESPONDING TO CALLS. THEY SEE THE JAIL, BUT THEY DON'T YOU DON'T SEE THE WORK THAT HAPPENS BEHIND CLOSED DOORS, THE DA'S OFFICE OR EVEN THE PUBLIC DEFENDER'S OFFICE AND EVEN THE PROBATION DEPARTMENT. BUT WITHOUT THOSE PARTNERS AND FROM MY POSITION, WITHOUT A ROBUST DA'S OFFICE TO HANDLE WHAT I'VE DEMONSTRATED AS A CRITICAL NEED FOR ADDITIONAL STAFFING, ALL OF THOSE OTHER AGENCIES FAIL. THEY CAN'T BE SUCCESSFUL WITHOUT A DA'S OFFICE TO HANDLE THOSE CASES AND PROSECUTE THEM. IF WE CAN'T FILE A CASE, A PERSON DOES NOT SIT IN CUSTODY. THEY ARE RELEASED. DOESN'T MATTER HOW SIGNIFICANT THAT CASE IS THAT IS THERE. THEY HAVE THE OFFENDERS HAVE CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS, AND WE ARE THE ONES THAT HAVE TO FILE THOSE CASES AND HANDLE THOSE CASES TO ULTIMATELY HOLD THEM RESPONSIBLE. THE IMPACT OF THE APPROXIMATELY 1 MILLION CUT TO SALARIES AND BENEFITS FROM WHAT I REQUESTED WOULD BE IF WE LOOK JUST AT BUDGET 227, THAT WOULD BE IF YOU ALL CHOSE TO DENY TO RECLASSIFY THE LEGAL SECRETARY AND LEAVE IT JUST AS IS, THAT'S GOING TO CONTINUE TO HURT OUR RECRUITMENT. WE'VE HAD SUCH A SIGNIFICANT ISSUE WITH CONTINUING TO RECRUIT WHILE PEOPLE COME IN, AND THEY LOVE THE WORK WHEN THEY'RE HANDLING THE WORK WITH FIVE ATTORNEYS OR 6 OR 7 ATTORNEYS THAT EACH HAVE HUNDREDS OF CASES, THEY BURN OUT. WHEN YOU GO HOME AND YOU STILL HAVE MONSTER PILES OF WORK TO DO WHEN YOU COME BACK THE NEXT DAY. THAT'S VERY DIFFICULT AND IT JUST CONTINUES TO BE AN ISSUE AND MAKING IT MORE APPEALING. EVEN HAVING CAREER GROWTH IS GOING TO MAKE IT MORE APPEALING, NOT ONLY AT THE RECRUITMENT STAGE, BUT AT THE RETENTION ABILITY. AND AS I OUTLINED IT IN MY PREVIOUS PRESENTATION AND TOUCHED ON TODAY, THERE REALLY IS SO CENTRAL TO THE OFFICE AND THE WORK THEY DO IS SO CRITICAL. [03:40:03] OUR, OUR WITNESS COORDINATOR POSITION, THAT'S A PILOT PROGRAM. WE ARE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE THAT FOREVER UNLESS WE HAVE SUPPORT FROM THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS TO MAKE THAT A PERMANENT POSITION. THAT'S A PERSON WHO IS HAVING ONE ON ONE CONVERSATION WITH ALL OF YOUR CONSTITUENTS, WITH ALL OF THE PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY WHO ARE WITNESSES AND VICTIMS, WHO NEED ONE CENTRAL PERSON TO HELP THEM WORK AROUND THEIR JOB, TO HELP THEM WORK AROUND THEIR CHILD CARE SO THAT THEY CAN COME IN AND TESTIFY IN COURT AND HOLD OFFENDERS RESPONSIBLE. THAT PERSON IS THE PERSON WHO IS DOING THAT. WITHOUT THAT PERSON, WE JUST ADD MORE WORK TO PROSECUTORS AS WELL AS AS WELL AS SECRETARIES. IF WE DON'T GET TO ADD ADDITIONAL LEGAL SECRETARIES, IT CONTINUES TO HURT RECRUITMENT AND RETENTION. IF THEY DON'T SEE THAT, WE'VE GOT THE ABILITY TO BRING IN MORE PEOPLE, EVEN IF WE'RE FULLY STAFFED AT THE TEN SECRETARIES THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE, BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN FULLY STAFFED AT TIMES, WE GO FROM FULL STAFF TO NOT FULL STAFFED, EVEN AT FULL STAFFED. THEY ARE THEY HAVE TOO MUCH WORK. THEY'RE STILL GOING HOME WITH MONSTERS OF WORK AND MONSTERS, AMOUNT OF STRESS. AND THAT'S WHAT ENDS TO THE BURNOUT AND PEOPLE LEAVING, HAVING THE ABILITY TO SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT? IT'S NOT TEN. NOW WE'VE GOT 15 POSITIONS OR 12 POSITIONS OR 13, WHATEVER IT MAY BE, IS GOING TO GO BE A HUGE MOTIVATOR IN RETENTION WHILE WE'RE ABLE TO RECRUIT THEM TO SAY, WOW, THIS TIME WHEN WE'RE FULL STAFFED AT 12 SECRETARIES OR 15, I'M NOT GOING TO STILL HAVE I'M NOT GOING TO GO FROM HAVING FIVE ATTORNEYS TO FOUR. I'M GOING TO GO FROM FIVE ATTORNEYS TO 3 OR 5 ATTORNEYS TO TWO. THAT'S GOING TO BE AMAZING. AND THAT'S GOING TO GO A LONG WAY WITH OUR RETENTION AND JUST THE OVERALL NEED TO HAVE THAT TO PROCESS CASES IN A TIMELY FASHION. WE SHOULD NOT HAVE CASES THAT TAKE MONTHS AND MONTHS AND MONTHS TO EVEN PROCESSED THROUGH INTAKE BEFORE AN ATTORNEY CAN EVEN TOUCH THE CASE, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH STAFFING TO DO AT THE LEGAL SECRETARY LEVEL TO DO THAT INITIAL PROCESSING OF THE CASE BEFORE IT CAN EVEN GET TO AN ATTORNEY, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE SUFFICIENT LEGAL SECRETARIES TO DO THAT. AND IT'S REALLY THE SAME THING WITH THE PROSECUTOR POSITIONS IS HAVING THE ADDITIONAL POSITION TO HELP WITH OUR RETENTION, OUR RECRUITMENT, INSTEAD OF HAVING ATTORNEYS WHO ARE WORKING MULTIPLE DAYS, SEVEN DAYS A WEEK. A LOT OF TIMES TEN HOURS BECAUSE THEY HAVE SUCH HIGH CASELOADS, ULTIMATELY BURNING OUT AND SAYING, YOU KNOW WHAT? I CAN GO TO THE PRIVATE SECTOR AND WORK MY 8 TO 5 AND MAKE MORE MONEY AND ACTUALLY GET TO SEE MY FAMILY. BECOMES LESS OF A DRAW TO THEM WHEN WE ARE SAYING, OKAY, LOOK, WE ARE RECRUITING FOR EVEN MORE POSITIONS. SO WHEN WE'RE FULL STAFF, YOU'RE NOT THE ISSUE. THOSE ISSUES AREN'T GOING TO BE THERE. AND WITH THE ADDITION OF BODY WORN CAMERAS, NOT IT REALLY IMPACTS ALL UP AND DOWN EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE POSITIONS THAT I'M REQUESTING. HAVING THAT ADDITIONAL WORKLOAD COMING INTO THE OFFICE FOR OUR CRIME VICTIM ASSISTANCE CENTER, WHAT THAT SALARIES AND BENEFIT DECREASE MEANS IS UN FUNDING AND ADVOCATE FOR SIX MONTHS. SO NOT BEING ABLE TO RECRUIT AN ADVOCATE POSITION, A PERSON WHO IS LITERALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR REACHING OUT TO VICTIMS AND HELPING THEM, HELPING THEM KNOW WHAT THIS CONFUSING PROCESS IS ALL ABOUT, GOING AND SITTING IN COURT WITH THEM, BEING THERE WHEN THEY TESTIFY, HELPING THEM WHEN THEY'RE AT SENTENCING, WHEN THEY'RE READING A VICTIM IMPACT STATEMENT THAT THAT TAKES THAT AWAY FOR US FOR THAT FIRST SIX MONTHS. THE 344,000 DECREASED FROM SERVICES AND SUPPLIES FROM MY REQUESTED BUDGET HITS MANY CATEGORIES. IT HITS THE ADDITIONAL LICENSES. WE NEED TO HAVE ADEQUATE ABILITY TO ACCESS OUR CASE MANAGEMENT SYSTEM FOR ALL OF OUR PROSECUTORS, LAPTOPS, LAPTOPS, AND OTHER COMPUTERS THAT ARE NEEDED THAT ARE AT END OF LIFE. CERTIFIED PRIORS TO PROVE A PERSON HAS PRIOR STRIKES EXPERT TESTIMONIES, EXPERT TESTIMONY TO REFUTE THINGS LIKE MENTAL HEALTH DIVERSION AND NOT GUILTY BY REASON OF INSANITY. WE CURRENTLY HAVE THREE CASES WHERE WE HAVE A PLEA OF NOT GUILTY BY REASON OF INSANITY, AND THAT'S A THAT'S A HUGE INCREASE IN WHAT WE'VE HAD IN THE PAST AS FAR AS THE NEED FOR MONEY TO FUND MENTAL HEALTH EXPERTS, AS WELL AS THE MENTAL HEALTH DIVERSION. THIS IS SOMETHING WHERE A VAST MAJORITY OF OUR CASES, BECAUSE IT'S A CHANGE IN THE LAW THAT GIVES THE DEFENDANTS ANOTHER AVENUE TO REQUEST DIVERSION. THESE ARE SERIOUS CASES. THESE ARE CASES WHERE PEOPLE HAVE COMMITTED VIOLENT CRIMES, AND THEY ARE REQUESTING MENTAL HEALTH DIVERSION BASED ON WHATEVER CONDITION THEY [03:45:04] MAY CLAIM AS A VARIETY THAT WOULD WOULD FIT. BUT IF WE ARE UNABLE TO HIRE OUR OWN EXPERTS IN ORDER TO REFUTE THAT, THEN WE'VE GOT VIOLENT OFFENDERS WHO ARE OUT ON DIVERSION AND AT THE END OF DIVERSION ARE ARE GETTING THEIR CASES DISMISSED LIKE THEY'VE NEVER COMMITTED THAT CRIME. AND WE'VE HAD VERY VIOLENT CRIMES WHERE THAT HAS HAPPENED. IT HITS OUR UNIFORMS FOR OUR INVESTIGATORS. RIFLES BULLETPROOF VESTS WITNESS TRANSPORTATION COSTS HAVE BEEN CUT. WE HAVE INVESTIGATORS WHO, YOU KNOW, HAVE TO GO TO SUSANVILLE, DOWN TO MANTECA, ALL OVER THE PLACE, PICKING UP WITNESSES WHO ARE REFUSING TO COME TO COURT OR CLAIMING THEY DON'T HAVE TRANSPORTATION OR WHATEVER IT MAY BE, IN ORDER TO TO PROVE CASES IN COURT. DEATH CERTIFICATES, SHASTA RECORDINGS TRANSCRIPTS FOR COURT REPORTERS, THE NEW COPIERS THAT WE NEED FOR THE OFFICE. AS I MENTIONED, THE BALLISTIC HELMETS AND VESTS FOR OUR BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION. FLASH DRIVES AND COMPUTERS THAT OUR STAFF NEEDS TO REPLACE OUTDATED COMPUTER. SO AS YOU CAN SEE, IT HITS A LOT OF CATEGORIES. SO MY REQUEST TO YOU IS TO APPROVE THE BUDGET AS I REQUESTED IT AT 12.9 MILLION. ALLOW US TO USE THAT 1.2 MILLION SAVINGS FROM THIS YEAR TO OFFSET THAT AMOUNT. AND WITHOUT YOUR APPROVAL, CRITICAL PUBLIC SAFETY DOES, DOES SUFFER. WE ARE AN INTEGRAL PART OF PUBLIC SAFETY. AND UNLESS WE ARE ABLE TO FUND THE OFFICE AT THE LEVEL THAT WE NEED, THE SERVICES ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO BE IMPACTED. AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. THANK YOU. SUPERVISOR. KELSTROM. ALL RIGHT. D.A. BRIDGETT, IF YOU COULD JUST I'M TRYING TO WRAP MY HEAD AROUND A FEW OF THESE NUMBERS. SO, FOR INSTANCE ON THE VERY FIRST PAGE IS 6580 CASES FILED. YES. DO YOU KNOW APPROXIMATELY HOW MANY OF THOSE WERE FELONIES? I DON'T HAVE THAT NUMBER OFF OF MY HEAD, BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT OUR OUR FELONY PERCENTAGE IS USUALLY AROUND 20% OF THOSE CASES. ACTUALLY, I MIGHT BE ABOUT 1300, THEN 1400. I MIGHT HAVE THAT RIGHT HERE. LET ME JUST GRAB THAT FOR YOU. I BELIEVE THAT I DO, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE EXACT, BUT YOU SAY ABOUT 20% PROBABLY. I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT MORE MISDEMEANOR CASES THAT WE GET THAN FELONY. BUT THE COMPARISONS I DID WITH OTHER COUNTIES WAS BASED ON FELONY FILINGS. OKAY. SO THAT WOULD BE LIKE 1300 1400 FELONY APPROXIMATELY. I THINK IT'S CLOSER TO 2000 TO 2500. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. AND THAT'D BE ABOUT 30%. YEAH. SO JURY TRIALS, THERE'S ONLY 42 JURY TRIALS. IS THAT NORMAL? I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT SEEMS LIKE WITH THAT MANY FELONY CASES, YOU KNOW, AND WE ONLY HAVE 42 JURY TRIALS. IS THAT IS THAT NORMAL OR IT EBBS AND FLOWS? IT DEPENDS ON THE AMOUNT OF COURTROOM AVAILABILITY THAT WE HAVE CASES. ONE THING THAT I'VE NOTICED IN MY 23 YEARS IS THAT TRIALS TAKE A LOT LONGER. NOW. THERE'S BEEN CHANGES IN THE LAW AS IT RELATES TO JURY SELECTION AND OTHER PROCESSES. SO WE'RE TRIAL 20 YEARS AGO COULD HAVE TAKEN TWO DAYS. ONE DAY IT WAS ONE DAY AT TIMES TO TRY A MISDEMEANOR TRIAL. WE CAN'T COMPLETE A TRIAL IN A WEEK, NO MATTER REGARDLESS OF SEVERITY AT THIS POINT, BECAUSE JURY SELECTION, EVERYTHING TAKES SO MUCH LONGER THAN IT EVER DID. SO WE HAVE SEEN OUR NUMBER OF TRIALS NOT BE AS HIGH AS THEY WERE, SAY, 15 YEARS AGO. WE ALSO HAD MORE JUDICIAL OFFICER POSITIONS, JUDGES THAT WERE ABLE TO HEAR CRIMINAL TRIALS TEN YEARS AGO THAN WE HAVE NOW, ESPECIALLY RIGHT NOW WITH AFTER THE FLOODING AT THE COURTHOUSE, WE'RE DOWN EVEN ANOTHER POSITION TO HEAR TRIALS. SO I CAN I EXPECT THAT NUMBER TO CONTINUE TO BE SOMEWHAT LIKE WITH 28 DEPUTY DISTRICT ATTORNEYS. I MEAN, THAT'S LIKE ONE AND A HALF CASES A YEAR, ONE AND A HALF JURY TRIALS A YEAR. THAT'S I MEAN, THAT'S KIND OF IS THAT A NORMAL OR. I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW, I'M JUST IT'S IT VARIES BECAUSE NOT ALL OF THOSE ARE DOING TRIALS. SO WE HAVE LIKE WE HAVE AN ATTORNEY THAT DOES FULL TIME FILING. WE HAVE ATTORNEYS THAT DO FULL TIME OTHER JOBS TWO ATTORNEYS THAT ARE FULL TIME HANDLING CALENDARS IN COURT. SO IT'S NOT A DIVIDE BY 28. IT'S YEAH, I MEAN, IT'S A LOT LOWER. AND, AND THEN WHEN YOU TAKE IT WITH THE NUMBER OF LIKE HOMICIDE TRIALS THAT WE'VE DONE RECENTLY, THOSE AREN'T, WE'RE NOT GOING TO FINISH A HOMICIDE TRIAL IN LESS THAN 4 TO 6 WEEKS, SOMETIMES EIGHT WEEKS, THAT THAT PROSECUTOR IS LOCKED UP ON THAT. AND IT'S THE SAME WITH A LOT OF OUR CHILD SEXUAL ASSAULT CASES. THEY TAKE FOR 4 TO 8 WEEKS AS WELL. SO THE LENGTHS OF THOSE CASES ARE VERY, VERY LONG. AND AS WE ARE RIGHT NOW WITH NOT HAVING ENOUGH RESOURCES ACROSS THE BOARD, THOSE ARE THE CASES THAT ARE TAKING A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TIME. [03:50:02] AND THEN THE OTHER NUMBER THAT CAN JUST KIND OF, I DON'T KNOW, I THOUGHT WAS A LITTLE ODD. SO YOU HAD 171 DOMESTIC VIOLENCE CASES THAT WERE RESOLVED, AND THAT WAS WITH 130 YEARS OF BEHIND BARS. SO THAT'S LIKE NINE MONTHS A CASE. IS THAT SOMEWHAT NORMAL OR. NO. I KNOW THERE'S SOME CASES DOMESTIC VIOLENCE CASES FROM MISDEMEANOR CASE COULD GET 30 DAYS AND ANOTHER FELONY DV CASE COULD GET 20 YEARS. SO WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THEM AND THERE'S A LOT OF CASES THAT COME IN AS MISDEMEANORS AND ARE FILED AS MISDEMEANORS. SO AND I DON'T HAVE THAT NUMBER RIGHT NOW, BUT IF WE CARVED OUT THE MISDEMEANORS, THE VAST MAJORITY OF THAT TIME WOULD BE ON FELONY CASES WHERE WE GET LIFE SENTENCES OR 50 YEARS OR WHATEVER IT MAY BE. SO I, YOU KNOW, IN LOOKING AT YOUR BUDGET, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE, YOU'RE ASKING FOR A LOT, THERE IS A LOT OF CHANGES. AND I MEAN, I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU, IT KIND OF THE FIRST MY FIRST THOUGHT THAT CAME TO MY MIND WAS GOING BACK 20 SOME YEARS AGO, I REMEMBER MY DAUGHTER WAS ABOUT FIVE AND CHRISTMAS WAS COMING. WE HAD THE, WE HAD THE CATALOG FROM TOYS R US WITH THE WISH LIST AND WE TOLD HER, HEY, CAN YOU WILL YOU CIRCLE SOME THINGS THAT YOU MIGHT WANT SANTA CLAUS TO BRING YOU? WELL, SHE CIRCLED EVERYTHING IN THERE, YOU KNOW, AND THEN WE BROUGHT IT BACK AND WE SAID, CAN YOU MAYBE TAKE IT THE TOP TEN AND CIRCLE WHAT YOU KNOW? WELL, OF COURSE, THE FIRST TEN ITEMS ON THE FIRST TWO PAGES, SHE, YOU KNOW, CIRCLED THOSE AGAIN. SO MUCH TO HER CHAGRIN, SHE FOUND OUT THAT NOT EVERYTHING IS FREE. SO AND THAT'S WHY I WAS LOOKING AT THIS. I MEAN, I WOULD LOVE TO JUST SAY, YOU KNOW, HEY, WE WANT TO GIVE YOU EVERYTHING WE WANT. YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I WOULD ALSO LOVE TO GIVE EVERY COUNTY EMPLOYEE $1 MILLION BONUS, YOU KNOW, A 2000 COUNTY EMPLOYEES. THAT'S. YEAH. YOU'RE OKAY WITH THAT, ARE YOU? GO TALK TO NO MONEY, BURTON. BUT YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD COST US $2 BILLION. SO OBVIOUSLY WE CAN'T DO THAT. SO IN LOOKING AT YOUR NUMBERS THERE THAT YOU HAD, SO LAST YEAR'S BUDGET WAS ABOUT $10.5 MILLION, BUT YOU ONLY USE 9.3 MILLION OF THAT. IS THAT CORRECT? SO YOU'RE PUTTING 1.2 BACK FROM FROM THE NET COUNTY COST. OKAY. WELL, THERE'S ABOUT 1.2 COMING BACK. CORRECT. SO SO YOU'RE AT 9.3. YOU KNOW, YOU RAN THE OFFICE LAST YEAR AT 9.3. THE REQUEST NOW IS 12.9, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, $3.5 MILLION MORE. THE CEO ADJUSTMENT IS STILL ALMOST TWO. $2 MILLION MORE, $1.8 MILLION MORE THAN WHAT YOU RAN IN THE OFFICE ON LAST YEAR. IT'S 611.1 MILLION. AND LAST YEAR YOU WERE AT TEN AND A HALF, BUT YOU ACTUALLY RAN IT AT 9.3. AND SINCE THAT TIME, YOU'VE SAID THAT YOU HIRED FOUR NEW DEPUTY DAS, WHICH CONGRATULATIONS. SO THAT SHOULD HAVE MADE IT START STARTING TO MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT EASIER THAN YOU WERE AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR. AND YOU'RE GETTING TWO PARALEGALS WITH A B 109 FUNDS. SURE. SO AND THEN YOU GOT THE CRIME VICTIM ASSISTANT POSITION BACK. SO I MEAN, LIKE I SAY, I, I WOULD LOVE TO GIVE, YOU KNOW, EVERY, EVERYBODY, EVERYTHING THAT THEY WANT. BUT THE ONE THING THAT I BROUGHT UP DURING THE APPEALS LAST AT LAST MEETING WAS, YOU KNOW, CITY OF REDDING IS ABOUT WELL THEY'RE CLAIMING ABOUT $5 MILLION IN DEFICIT, AND IT MIGHT BE CLOSER TO SEVEN OR 8 OR 9. CITY OF ANDERSON EVEN. I MEAN, THEY AND THEY RUN THEIR CITY EXTREMELY WELL. THEY'RE FALLING INTO DEFICIT. THE HARMON COUNTY IS IN A DEFICIT. AND, YOU KNOW, I'M VERY PROUD TO SAY THAT WITH THE HARD WORK OF THE CEO AND DEPUTY CEO, YOU KNOW, WE ARE NOT RUNNING A DEFICIT. AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT CONTINUE THAT WAY. SO AS MUCH AS I WOULD LOVE TO GIVE YOU, YOU KNOW, YOUR WISH LIST, I'M ME PERSONALLY, I'M GOING TO HAVE TO GO WITH WHAT THE CEO SUGGESTS, BUT THAT'S JUST ME. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OH, BY THE WAY, ONE MORE THING. THAT'S GOT TO BE A REALLY NICE DRONE. I KNOW IT'S THE ZOGG FIRE SETTLEMENT, SO IT DOESN'T HIT THE GENERAL FUND AT ALL, BUT THAT'S A VERY EXPENSIVE DRONE. WHAT? WHAT ALL DO YOU DO WITH THAT? THAT DRONE. SO OVER WE GO OUT TO CRIME SCENES. SO ONE OF THE CRIME SCENES WE WENT OUT TO WAS A MURDER CASE OVER THE LAST YEAR TO USE THE DRONE THAT WE HAD. SO IT'S GOING TO BE USED FOR THAT FOR HELPING TO NOT ONLY GET THE EVIDENCE THAT WE NEED TO TO PROVE A CASE. AND IN THAT CASE, WE WENT OUT BEFORE THE CASE WAS EVEN FILED, OUR PROSECUTORS, INVESTIGATORS AND HELPED. AND IT HELPED LOCATE THE THE MURDER WEAPON IN THAT PARTICULAR CASE BY HAVING OUR DRONE AVAILABLE. SO WE ARE GETTING A BETTER DRONE TO HELP WITH THAT. AND PRIMARILY, IT'S ALSO GOING TO HELP WHEN WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, FIRE CASES, ARSON CASES IN ORDER TO. SO YOU'RE ABLE TO FIND THE MURDER WEAPON WITH THE ZONE, THE DRONE FOOTAGE. ABSOLUTELY. THAT'S FANTASTIC. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SUPERVISOR. KELSTROM. SUPERVISOR HARMON. HI, STEPHANIE. I JUST GOT A FEW QUESTIONS. SURE. ONE OF THEM IS ON THE GRANT AND OTHER FUNDING SECTION. YEAH. YOU MADE A COMMENT THAT WE USUALLY ALWAYS GET CERTAIN GRANTS. YES. KIND OF. BUT WHAT ARE YOUR FEELINGS ABOUT WITH THE STATE BUDGET? LIKE IT IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO OBTAIN THE ONES THAT WE USUALLY GET. [03:55:04] YEAH. THOSE THOSE. IF THEY'VE NOT, MAYBE THEY'VE ALREADY BEEN AWARDED. NO. SO THOSE THREE ARE STILL PENDING. BUT YOU KNOW, IF WE DON'T GET THOSE THAT THAT'S NOT FUNDING OUR MURDERS, RAPES, VIOLENT CRIME, THAT'S JUST ON AUTO FRAUD, WORKERS COMPENSATION, FRAUD, WELFARE FRAUD, ALL VERY IMPORTANT THINGS FOR US TO, TO SUPPORT IN OUR COMMUNITY. BUT IF WE DON'T GET THOSE, UNFORTUNATELY, THAT TYPE OF SERVICE IS WHAT'S GOING TO SUFFER. THAT DOESN'T IMPACT. WE CAN'T USE THAT MONEY LIKE TO PROSECUTE HOMICIDE CASES OR CHILD VICTIM CRIME CASES. WE'VE HAD THOSE FOR AS LONG AS I'VE BEEN IN THE OFFICE. THE ANTICIPATION IS TO GET THOSE. BUT IF WE DON'T, WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DO THE AUTO FRAUD, WORKER'S COMP FRAUD, THOSE TYPES OF CASES. AND AND WHAT'S THE THANK YOU. WHAT'S THE ESTIMATED TIMELINE ON THE DASHBOARD? ON WHAT WAS THAT AGAIN? THE DASHBOARD. OH THE DASHBOARD. OUR HOPE IS BY THE END OF THIS CALENDAR YEAR. I REALLY BELIEVE WE'LL BE ABLE TO GET THAT BY THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR THAT WE'RE GOING INTO, MEANING THE 2526 FISCAL YEAR. BUT IT'S OUR PROJECTION AND I THINK IT'S PRETTY REASONABLE AT THIS POINT THAT WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE THAT UP AND GOING BY THE END OF THIS CALENDAR YEAR. WE ARE DEALING WITH TECHNOLOGY THOUGH, SO YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO COME IN A HICCUP AND MAKE THAT BE DELAYED. TWO MORE QUESTIONS. THE, THE SHEET THAT YOU BROUGHT UP, THIS ONE WHERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. YES. THE POSITIONS. HOW DOES THE THE AMOUNT OF JUDGES THAT WE HAVE IN SHASTA COUNTY COMPARE TO THESE STATS? YEAH. SO ON THE TOP ACROSS THE TOP. THAT IS, COMPARING COUNTIES THAT HAVE A SIMILAR NUMBER OF JUDGES AS US. SO THAT 30% AND AS IT GOES ACROSS, THAT'S OTHER COUNTIES THAT HAVE THE SAME NUMBER OF JUDGES. THE LOWER COLUMN WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT AT WORKLOAD CASELOAD THOSE COUNTIES HAVE SIGNIFICANTLY MORE JUDGES THAN US AS WELL. THEY'LL HAVE WHERE WE HAVE 13, THEY'LL HAVE 20. OH I SEE, SORRY, I GUESS I DIDN'T QUITE CATCH THAT. SURE. AND THEN ON THE, ON THE BODY CAMS. YES. THIS IS A NOVICE QUESTION, BUT IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE THE BODY CAMS MAY. DECREASE THE POTENTIAL WORKLOAD FOR CASES MEANING OPEN AND CLOSE. BECAUSE WE HAVE THE EVIDENCE, IT CERTAINLY CAN PROVIDE US EVIDENCE THAT'S GOING TO HELP US RESOLVE A CASE QUICKER. IT MAY MAKE A DEFENDANT WANT TO PLEAD SOONER OR SOMETHING ON THERE MIGHT SAY, OH, MAYBE WE NEED TO MAKE A MUCH LOWER OFFER OR GIVE US THE EVIDENCE TO HELP US PROVE A CASE QUICKER. BUT IT DOESN'T RICKERT DECREASE. IT ACTUALLY INCREASES OUR PROCESSING TIME BECAUSE WE HAVE TO WATCH THEM ALL. THAT DOESN'T GO AWAY. NO MATTER WHAT. IT'S GOING TO GIVE US BETTER EVIDENCE OR MAYBE EVEN GIVE THE DEFENSE BETTER EVIDENCE IN CERTAIN CASES. BUT THAT'S ONLY IF WE'RE ABLE TO HAVE THE STAFF TO TO REVIEW THAT FOOTAGE. RIGHT. BUT WE'RE WE'RE WE'RE NOT GOING TO REVIEW EVERY MINUTE OF EVERY OFFICER'S TIME WITH THE CAMERA, RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO GO RIGHT TO WE HAVE A PROBLEM, WE HAVE A CASE, WE HAVE AN INCIDENT, AND WE'RE GOING TO GO RIGHT TO THAT FOOTAGE, WHATEVER THAT MIGHT BE, 30 MINUTES, AN HOUR THAT THAT THAT'S MAYBE IF THEY TIMESTAMP EXACTLY WHEN THAT HAPPENS. BUT THE WAY IT WORKS IS WHEN THEY SHOW UP, IT'S, THEY'RE GOING TO TURN THE CAMERA ON AT THE BEGINNING OF THAT INCIDENT, AND WE'RE GOING TO GET IT'S GOING TO CAPTURE THAT ENTIRE INTERACTION. IT'S GOING TO CAPTURE. IF IT'S A PURSUIT, THE ENTIRE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THE PURSUIT, ONCE THEY GET OUT, THE ENTIRE INTERACTION, TAKE A DUI FIELD. SOBRIETY TESTS ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD CAN TAKE, YOU KNOW, 20 MINUTES OR THEY CAN TAKE AN HOUR, THEY CAN TAKE A LONG TIME. IT'S GOING TO CAPTURE THAT ENTIRE TIME. WE HAVE TO WATCH THAT. WE CAN'T AT ONCE. WE HAVE IT NOW THAT IT'S AVAILABLE. WE CAN'T NOT WATCH IT BECAUSE WE'RE OBLIGATED TO SAY, OKAY, WELL, IT'S A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN READING A SUMMARY OF WHAT HAPPENED AND BASING OUR OFFER, PACING OUR ULTIMATE DECISIONS. IN THAT CASE, BASED ON A SUMMARY, WHICH CAN BE, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THE BEST ATTEMPT TO SUMMARIZE THAT CASE, BUT IT'S NOT THE BEST EVIDENCE. THE BEST EVIDENCE IS ACTUALLY WATCHING IT. AND WE WOULD NEVER WANT TO SHOW UP AT A CERTAINLY AT A TRIAL, HAVING NOT WATCHED EVERY MINUTE OF THAT FOOTAGE, BECAUSE WE'LL WATCH HIM AND WE'LL SAY, OH, WELL, YOU KNOW, ANOTHER CAR PULLED UP AND I CAN SEE THAT LICENSE PLATES. MAYBE WE SHOULD TRACK THAT PERSON DOWN TOO. SO THERE'S OTHER THINGS IN A MORE COMPLICATED CASE, [04:00:03] BUT LET'S JUST SIMPLIFY. WE'VE ALL SEEN THE LITTLE POP UPS WHERE THE BODY CAM IS A PICTURE OF SOMEBODY THAT GOT OUT OF A CAR AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE SO DRUNK THEY CAN'T HARDLY WALK. THAT CASE IS PRETTY MUCH CLOSED AFTER ANOTHER FIVE MINUTES OF INTERVIEW GOES BY, RIGHT? YEAH, BUT IT'S NOT. I'M OVERSIMPLIFYING IT, BUT IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE IT'D BE AN ADVANTAGE IN THAT LAST QUESTION. BUT IF I COULD JUST TALK TO THAT ONE REAL QUICK, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT JUST GETTING THE CLIP THAT, YOU KNOW, THE 30S OR THE ONE MINUTE THAT MAY BE POSTED ON SOCIAL MEDIA THAT SHOWS THE PERSON REALLY INTOXICATED, WE GET THE ENTIRE THING. AND THAT'S OUR OBLIGATION TO REVIEW THE ENTIRE THING. AND I PROVIDED I BELIEVE IT WAS VIA QR CODE, SOME OTHER THE IMPACT OF BODY WORN CAMERA, NOT ONLY THROUGHOUT THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA, BUT NATIONWIDE, SHOWING THE IMPACTS THAT IT NEEDED TO REALLY INCREASE STAFFING AT THE PROSECUTION LEVEL TO WATCH THOSE VIDEOS BECAUSE WE'RE WE'RE ETHICALLY REQUIRED TO IT'S JUST LIKE IF THERE WAS A THOUSAND PAGES IN THE CASE, BUT THESE TEN SUMMARIZE IT. WE CAN'T JUST READ THE TEN THAT SUMMARIZE IT. WE HAVE TO READ THE THOUSAND. IT'S JUST IT'S OUR PART OF OUR ETHICAL OBLIGATION THAT'S NOW BEEN EXPANDED BY BODY WORN CAMERA. AND MY OKAY, MY LAST QUESTION. THANK YOU. MY LAST QUESTION IS. WE HAVE THESE POSITIONS OPEN. WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO FILL THEM ALL ALONG. RIGHT. AND WE STILL HAVE THESE POSITIONS OPEN. SO I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE NEED MORE BUDGET TO TRY TO ACCOMPLISH SOMETHING WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH WITH THE BUDGET THAT WE HAVE. IT'S AN UP AND DOWN. WE GO FROM TIMES WHERE WE ARE FULL STAFFED IN OUR LEGAL SECRETARIES, AND THEN THEY'RE STILL OVERWORKED BECAUSE EVEN AT FULL STAFF THEY CAN'T KEEP UP. THEN WE GET 2 OR 3 THAT LEAVE, AND NOW WE'RE BACK TO HAVING THREE VACANCIES. WE GO FROM TIMES WHERE WE'LL HAVE 6 OR 7 ATTORNEY VACANCIES, AND THEN WE'RE ABLE TO GET THAT ALL THE WAY BACK UP TO MAYBE HAVE 1 OR 2, BECAUSE YOU ARE ALWAYS HAVING RETIREMENTS AND TURNOVER. BUT EVEN WHEN WE GET UP TO THAT HIGHER STAFFING LEVEL, THEY'RE STILL WORKING SEVEN HOURS A DAY, MULTIPLE DAYS, WEEKENDS, NIGHTS AND EVERYTHING. SO WE CAN'T USE THE BENCHMARK OF OUR CURRENT STAFFING AS THE AS THE LEVEL WE NEED TO HAVE THE ABILITY TO LIKE, OKAY, ONCE WE'RE AT THAT TEN SECRETARIES, WE HAVE TO HAVE THE ABILITY TO GET CLOSER TO WHAT WE NEED BASED ON OUR WORKLOAD, WHICH IS ALMOST DOUBLE WHEN WE COMPARE TO OTHER COUNTIES SO THAT WE CAN RETAIN PEOPLE. WE'RE NOT RETAINING PEOPLE BECAUSE THE WORKLOAD IS SO HUGE, EVEN AT FULL STAFFING. SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT OUR VACANCIES, IT'S NOT LIKE WE'VE HAD ONE THREE POSITIONS AVAILABLE VACANT FOR FIVE YEARS. THE VACANCY TIME IS ACTUALLY MUCH LOWER. IT'S, YOU KNOW, MAYBE A MONTH HERE OR THREE MONTHS OR FOUR MONTHS THERE BECAUSE WE ARE ABLE TO RECRUIT, BUT THEN WE END UP LOSING PEOPLE WHO GO WHO HAVE THEIR CASE LOAD IS TOO BIG OR THERE IS NO PROMOTIONAL OPPORTUNITIES. SO I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT IT DOESN'T SOLVE THE PROBLEM. IF WE CONTINUE TO STAY AT OUR STAFFING, WE ARE ABLE TO ACTUALLY RETAIN PEOPLE. IF WE HAVE MORE POSITIONS TO RECRUIT FOR BECAUSE OVERALL WORKLOAD GOES DOWN. AND EVEN HAVING THE ABILITY, EVERYBODY KNOWS IN OUR OFFICE THAT, OH, I'M A LEGAL SECRETARY AND I KNOW THERE'S ONLY TEN POSITIONS AND YEAH, WE'RE RECRUITING. WE MIGHT GET TWO MORE AND GET AT FULL STAFF. BUT EVEN WHEN WE'RE THERE, I'M STILL GOING TO BE CRUSHED WITH WORK OR YEAH, WE HAVE 28 ATTORNEYS, BUT EVEN WHEN WE GET THERE, I'M GOING TO BE CRUSHED WITH WORK. BUT IF WE'RE RECRUITING FOR 15 AND WE GET UP TO 15 LEGAL SECRETARIES, THERE IS LIKE A REAL HOPE ON THE HORIZON AND WE ARE ABLE TO RECRUIT THOSE. WE HAVE ANOTHER LEGAL SECRETARY STARTING IN TWO WEEKS FROM NOW. BUT WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO RETAIN THEM. AND WHEN OUR FULL STAFF BENCHMARK IS STILL CRUSHING WORKLOADS, THAT'S NOT A RECIPE FOR RETAINING EMPLOYEES. SO SO WE HAVE A TEAM FULL, FULL CAPACITY ON STAFFING. YEAH. WELL NOT LIKE OFFICE WIDE. I DON'T THINK YOU CAN EVER GET, I DON'T THINK LIKE 100% STAFFING AT ALL TIMES. YOU HAVE PEOPLE RETIRING OR WHATEVER. BUT WE'VE HAD TIMES WHERE WE HAVE ALL OF OUR SECRETARY POSITIONS FILLED AND THEN THEY DIP DOWN. THE ATTORNEY POSITIONS HAVE BEEN VERY DIFFICULT FOR US FOR QUITE A WHILE. WE HAVE A STATEWIDE AND EVEN A NATIONAL CRISIS WHEN IT COMES TO HAVING ENOUGH PEOPLE AVAILABLE TO WORK IN DA OFFICES FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS. BUT A BIG ONE IS THEIR CRUSHING WORKLOADS AND THEIR THEIR PAY NOT BEING WHAT THEY CAN GET IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR. WHEN WE LOOK AT SURROUNDING COUNTIES LIKE BUTTE COUNTY, THEY'RE AT 50% STAFFING ON THEIR ATTORNEYS RIGHT NOW. [04:05:01] BECAUSE THEY'RE HAVING THE SAME ISSUES. THEY NOW HAVE INCREASED THE PAY SIGNIFICANTLY IN SIGNING BONUSES TO TRY TO ADDRESS THAT. AND I'M HOPEFUL THEY'RE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH THAT. BUT EVEN OTHER, OUR SURROUNDING COUNTIES ARE HAVING THE SAME, THE SAME ISSUES THAT WE, THAT WE HAVE WITH BEING ABLE TO RECRUIT. WE USED TO GET 80, 90 APPLICANTS FOR EVERY AVAILABLE ATTORNEY POSITION. WE'RE ON CONTINUOUS RECRUITMENT RIGHT NOW. WE'RE LUCKY TO GET ONE A MONTH THAT WE'RE THAT WE'RE INTERVIEWING FOR. LIKE I SAID, WE WERE VERY SUCCESSFUL ON THIS LAST YEAR AND WERE ABLE TO ONBOARD FOR ATTORNEYS, THREE OF WHICH WERE LATERALS AND WERE CONTINUING TO DO THAT RECRUITMENT PUSH. I HAVE TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, IT DOESN'T GIVE ME MUCH HOPE FOR EXPANDING THE BUDGET AND ACCOMPLISHING. I MEAN, I'M SEEING OTHER DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT THAT ARE ACHIEVING THEIR GOALS. AND WE'RE NOT INCREASING THEIR BUDGETS. ACTUALLY, I BELIEVE THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE HAS BEEN INCREASED FOR THEIR BODY WORN CAMERA CLOSE TO $1 MILLION WITH ADDITIONAL POSITIONS. SO WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN ADDITIONAL POSITIONS ABOVE WHERE THEY'RE NOT ASKING US TO INCREASE IT ABOVE WHAT THEY'RE AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE ATTAINING THEIR GOALS WITH WHAT THEY HAVE. ANYWAY. THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SUPERVISOR. HARMON. SUPERVISOR LONG THANK YOU, CHAIR CRYE. THANK YOU DA BRIDGETT FOR THAT PRESENTATION. GREATLY APPRECIATED. SO I DID SOME CALCULATIONS AND I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT SOME THINGS. SO BEAR WITH ME A LITTLE BIT. AND WE DON'T HAVE TO TALK EXACT NUMBERS. SO WHAT I DID WAS NOT INCLUDED IN OUR BUDGET BOOKS IS THE ACTUAL ADOPTED BUDGET FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 2425. SO I WORKED OFF THAT. AND YOU'VE GOT TWO YOU'VE GOT TWO DIFFERENT UNITS WITHIN YOURS, THE 256 AND THE 227 VICTIM WITNESS AND THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY PROPER. SO I ADDED THE ADOPTED BUDGET FOR 1745 FOR THE DA'S OFFICE OR FOR THE VICTIM WITNESS. AND THEN 13692 I CAME UP WITH A TOTAL OF ADOPTED. 15438 AND THEN THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, THERE WERE ADJUSTMENTS TO THE BUDGET FOR WE'RE TALKING SALARY AND BENEFITS AT THIS ONE. AND SO YOU CAME UP WITH A YEAR END ADJUSTED BUDGET WHICH THAT'S, I GUESS THROUGH THIS MONTH AND THOSE NUMBERS I CAME UP WITH FISCAL YEAR ADJUSTED FISCAL YEAR END, ADJUSTED OF 14, THREE, 92. AND THEN THE CAO RECOMMENDED GOING FORWARD FOR THE NEXT YEAR, 2526 OF 14, FOUR, SIX NINE. SO IT INCREASED THE BUDGET IN SALARIES AND BENEFITS OF $76,000, JUST ROUGHLY. AND I DON'T EXPECT YOU TO CALCULATE IT ALL IN YOUR HEAD, BUT SO I TOOK THE ADOPTED BUDGET OF THE 15438 AND I MULTIPLIED IT BY A COLA AND I CAME UP WITH $308,000 THAT IT WOULD HAVE HAD TO INCREASE TO KEEP EVERYTHING STATUS QUO. AND YET WE'RE INCREASING BY 76,000. SO IT'S A 200, $225,000 REDUCTION IN SALARY AND BENEFITS IN REAL TERMS IN REAL DOLLARS. SO THAT'S THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I LOOKED AT. AND THEN I LOOKED AT THE SERVICES AND SUPPLIES AGAIN, DID THE SAME THING. I LOOKED AT YOUR ADOPTED, WHICH IS NOT IN OUR BOOK AND CAME UP WITH NUMBERS. TWO, TWO, NINE, SEVEN FISCAL YEAR ADJUSTED THROUGH FISCAL YEAR END. TWO. SIX. FIVE. SEVEN. AND THEN THE CAO RECOMMENDED TWO, THREE, THREE ONE. AND SO I SAW A DIFFERENCE THERE OF $325,000 TO SERVICES AND SUPPLIES. AND YOU HAD TALKED ABOUT SERVICES AND SUPPLIES IN THE CRITICAL AMOUNTS. SO MY CONCERN IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA IS THAT NOT ONLY ARE YOU NOT STATUS QUO, BUT YOU'RE GOING IN REVERSE AND IT'S ACTUALLY GETTING LESS MONEY. AND I UNDERSTAND WITH THE FISCAL YEAR END ADJUSTMENTS TO THIS CURRENT LAST YEAR A LOT OF THAT THOSE BUDGET AMENDMENTS WERE REALIZED THROUGH SALARY SAVINGS BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T FILL ALL YOUR STAFF POSITIONS. SO YOU WERE, YOU KNOW, RUNNING TEN LEGAL SECRETARIES WHEN YOU'RE AUTHORIZED. 12 AND 28. IT WAS 28 ATTORNEYS. THAT MIGHT HAVE CHANGED RECENTLY, BUT YOU'VE BEEN RUNNING 22 ATTORNEYS AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS, THOSE SALARY SAVINGS WERE WERE USED TO BOLSTER YOUR SERVICES AND SUPPLIES THROUGH [04:10:02] BUDGET AMENDMENTS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. IS THAT DOES THAT SOUND? YEAH, I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. ABSOLUTELY. SO WHEN YOU WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT AND YOU LOOK AT THE ADOPTED BUDGET AND LET'S SAY IF WE JUST LOOK AT OUR DA MAIN BUDGET, TWO, TWO, SEVEN, BECAUSE THAT'S, THAT'S THE THAT'S OUR BIGGER BUDGET IS THE DA MAIN. OUR SERVICES AND SUPPLIES ADOPTED BUDGET FOR 2425, WHICH IS WHAT WE COMPARE. WE'RE ASKED TO COMPARE TO WHEN WE GIVE OUR PRESENTATION WAS 2,996,365. HOWEVER, WE HAVE GONE AND REQUESTED TO ADJUST THAT AT LEAST ONCE. AND THERE'S GOING TO BE A SECOND ONE SO THAT THE ACTUAL EXPENSES FOR SERVICES AND SUPPLIES FOR 2425 IS GOING TO BE 2,521,000 AS OPPOSED TO THE 2,096,000. SO WE'VE SEEN AN INCREASE OF APPROXIMATELY 400 000. WE REQUESTED JUST A LITTLE OVER WHAT WE ACTUALLY SPENT. SO WHAT WE ACTUALLY ARE ONLINE TO SPEND IN SERVICES AND SUPPLIES FOR 2425 IS ABOUT 2.5 MILLION. WE REQUESTED SERVICES AND SUPPLIES AT 2.6 MILLION. BECAUSE WE HAVE SOME ONE TIME COSTS IN THERE, LIKE WE'RE GETTING A NEW ROOF AND WE HAVE A SCANNING PROJECT AND A FEW THINGS. SO IF YOU TAKE OFF SOME OF THOSE ONE TIME COSTS OR SERVICES AND SUPPLIES ARE THAT WE'VE REQUESTED IS COMING IN RIGHT AT ABOUT EXACTLY WHAT WE ACTUALLY SPENT IN 24, 25. SO WHEN WE BUILT OUR BUDGET, WE TRIED TO GET TO THAT, TO WHAT OUR EXPENSES ACTUALLY ARE. SO WE DON'T HAVE TO COME BACK TO THE BOARD MID-YEAR OR ANOTHER TIME AND SAY, HEY, CAN WE TAKE MONEY FROM SERVICES OR FROM SALARIES AND BENEFITS AND MOVE THAT OVER TO SERVICES AND SUPPLIES, BECAUSE WE'VE ALREADY RAN OUT OF MONEY BASED ON THE ACTUAL LEVEL OF WHAT WE HAVE TO PAY FOR. SO YOU'RE RIGHT, IF OUR REQUEST AT 2.6 MILLION, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE OVER WHAT WE ACTUALLY SPENT, WHERE THE CEO RECOMMEND IS 2.3 MILLION WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, ABOUT 200,000 LESS THAN THE 2.5 OF WHAT WE ACTUALLY SPENT IN 2425. CORRECT. SO, SO I THINK IT'S, IT'S, I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS COMPLETELY, BUT IT'S WE KEEP HAVING YOU COME BACK TO ADJUST YOUR SERVICES AND SUPPLIES PERIODICALLY THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, AND THEN WE SALARY SAVE AND WE BACKFILL FOR THAT. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE ALL THOSE NUMBERS WERE, WERE, WERE SOMEWHAT REASONABLE FOR YOUR FOR YOUR CALCULATIONS. AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO WORK OFF THE ADOPTED BUDGET, NOT JUST THE ADJUSTED BUDGET AFTER WHAT WE'VE ACTUALLY SPENT. WELL, BOTH THE ADOPTED BUDGET AND THEN WHAT THE ADJUSTED BUDGET IS, BECAUSE THAT SHOWS WHAT THE ACTUAL EXPENSES WERE WHEN YOU ADJUST IT THROUGH FISCAL YEAR END. SO I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT. AND SO BASICALLY, IT'S DIFFICULT FOR ME WHEN YOU'RE NOT MAINTAINING STATUS QUO BECAUSE COLAS AND SOME OF THESE THINGS ARE GOING UP AND YET YOUR YOUR BUDGET'S INCREASING BY A SMALLER AMOUNT. SUPERVISOR LONG, CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION? JUST BECAUSE WHILE WE'RE BEFORE YOU MOVE ON, CAN WE ASK BURTON TO SEE IF SHE CAN BECAUSE I'M TRACKING. I'M GOING THROUGH DOING THAT. COULD WE ASK COULD WE ASK AARON TO JUST TO CLARIFY, AND I'M NOT I DON'T WANT TO INTERJECT ANYTHING DIFFERENT. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT SUPERVISOR LONG IS SAYING, AARON, TRACKS WITH WHAT YOU HAVE ON OUR BUDGET BOOK. THANK YOU. SUPERVISOR LONG YEAH. HI. GOOD AFTERNOON. AARON BURTON DEPUTY COUNTY EXECUTIVE OFFICER I'M SHOWING THAT LAST YEAR'S ADOPTED BUDGET FOR SALARY AND BENEFITS FOR THE 227 WAS 13.6 MILLION. THE CURRENT BUDGET IS 14.5 MILLION. SO THAT'S A SUBSTANTIAL INCREASE FROM LAST YEAR. I'M SHOWING THAT THE SERVICE HOLD ON. SUPERVISOR LONG IS THAT TRACKING BECAUSE IT'S COMPLETELY CONFLICTING. SO HELP ME. WELL, I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ALL TALKING APPLES TO APPLES. CORRECT. SO I THINK WHEN WE, I, YOU'RE THE, YOU'RE THE BUDGET EXPERT. SO I'M JUST, I'M JUST DOING MY CALCULATIONS, TRYING TO FIGURE THIS OUT. FACTORING IN COLAS TO THE ADOPTED. SO I HAD FOR THE ADOPTED. 2425 FOR SALARIES AND BENEFITS. IN THE 227 OF 13692 IS THAT WHAT YOU HAVE CORRECT? 13.7 MILLION. YES. AND SO I ADDED THAT TOGETHER WITH THE THE, WHERE WAS IT? FOR THE VICTIM WITNESS, WHICH WAS A MILLION 7457. SO I PUT THOSE TOGETHER AND I CAME UP WITH ADOPTED OF MILLION OR 15 MILLION. [04:15:01] 438 SO I THINK PROBABLY THE BEST THING TO DO IS COMPARE LIKE EACH BUDGET UNIT TO EACH BUDGET UNIT, BECAUSE THEY'RE REALLY TWO COMPLETELY SEPARATE FUNCTIONS. OKAY. AND SO WHEN WE HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS, I CAN COME, LIKE I COMBINED, BRINGING THE TWO TOGETHER ISN'T REALLY A FAIR COMPARISON. AND SO BECAUSE THERE'S DIFFERENT, THERE'S PROGRAM CHANGES IN EACH ONE, AND THEY BOTH SERVE A SEPARATE FUNCTION. SO IF I LOOK AT SO IF I LOOK AT IT, I LOOK AT THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S 227 BRIDGETT 14.5 MILLION VERSUS 13.7. THAT'S A 13.5% INCREASE. IF I WERE TO GET TO, BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE MY BUDGET BOOK FOR LAST YEAR WITH ME, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'VE MADE ANY CHANGES TO THE. 256. THAT'S NOT YET. SO IF I LOOK AT THE 256 AND I PULL UP THE ADOPTED BUDGET. I GET SALARY AND BENEFITS OF 1.7. AND THEN IN THE 256 THEY'RE FAIRLY CONSISTENT. SO THEY'RE RIGHT AT 1.7. IN ORDER TO ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE DID, THEY REQUESTED 1.8, WHICH WOULD HAVE BEEN, I BELIEVE, FULLY FILLING THE POSITIONS THAT THEY'VE HAD. SO WHEN WE LOOK THROUGH THE BUDGETS WE LOOK AT, WE ASK DEPARTMENTS TO COME IN AT A NET ZERO GENERAL FUND CONTRIBUTION. AND SO WHAT WE DID WITH THEIRS IS WE HELD A POSITION VACANT, I THINK, FOR SIX MONTHS. IS THAT CORRECT? YES. SO WE BUDGETED TO HOLD A POSITION VACANT FOR SIX MONTHS SO THAT THEY COULD COME INTO THAT GENERAL FUND HIT OF THE NET ZERO. AND WE DO THAT NOT BECAUSE WE FEEL LIKE DEPARTMENTS SHOULD NOT HAVE MORE, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY WE'D LIKE TO GIVE EVERYBODY MORE, BUT BECAUSE WE HAVE LIMITED FUNDING. AND SO WE DID MAKE SOME ALLOWANCES ON THE 227 BUDGET FOR THE ARPA FUNDING THAT PREVIOUSLY FUNDED THE MET TEAM. AND SO THEIR NET THEIR NET GENERAL FUND HIT WAS AN ADDITIONAL 600,000 ON THAT SIDE FOR THAT REASON. BUT WHEN WE HAVE LIMITED FUNDING, WE REALLY GO IN AND SAY, OKAY, YOU KNOW, AND REALLY IT WAS IT WAS A BOARD APPROVED DIRECTION THAT WE'RE GOING TO GO INTO DEPARTMENTS AND SAY, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A NET ZERO GENERAL FUND HIT AS A STARTING POINT, AND THEN WE MAKE SOME ALLOWANCES. SOMETIMES IT'S FOR IF INSURANCES ARE WAY HIGHER, WE MAKE SOME ALLOWANCES. IF THERE HAVE BEEN BOARD APPROVED PROJECTS, LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, THE MET TEAM IS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF THAT. THE BOARD CHOSE TO FUND IT USING ARPA DOLLARS, KNOWING THAT WAS NOT A LONG TERM FUNDING STREAM WITHOUT A. WE'RE GOING TO PUT A SUNSET DATE ON ALL THESE POSITIONS. SO WE FUNDED THOSE AND ALLOWED THE ADDITIONAL GENERAL FUND. AS PART OF OUR RECOMMENDATION FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, WE ALLOWED THE COSTS FOR THE BODY WORN CAMERAS AS KIND OF AN ALLOWANCE IN OUR RECOMMENDATION, BECAUSE THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS HAS ALREADY MADE THAT DECISION. AND SO OBVIOUSLY, WE'RE GOING TO FOLLOW THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS DIRECTION ON THAT. AND SO WHILE A VICTIM WITNESS REALLY IS THE ONE THAT'S KIND OF REALLY HELD STATUS QUO THERE ARE OTHER REVENUE HAS ALSO DROPPED TOO. AND SO WE ALSO HAVE KIND OF A BUDGET PRINCIPLE THAT SAYS, YOU KNOW, IF YOUR REVENUE HAS DROPPED, WE EXPECT YOUR EXPENDITURES TO DROP AS WELL. AND SO THEY'VE SEEN A DECREASE IN THEIR FUNDING STREAM FOR THAT. AND SO THAT PRINCIPLE REALLY APPLIES WHEN YOU GET TO THE. NET GENERAL FUND COST. BUT ON THE 227 BUDGET, THEIR SALARY AND BENEFITS AND THEIR SERVICES AND SUPPLIES ARE BOTH INCREASED OVER THE PRIOR YEAR. AND THAT'S TWO REASONS THAT'S ALLOWING THE DIFFERENCE FOR THE ARPA, THE MET TEAM AND THEN THEIR SALARY AND BENEFITS. THEY ADDED TWO PARALEGALS AND THEY CAME IN WITH OTHER FUNDING STREAMS. SO OBVIOUSLY WE SUPPORT POSITIONS, YOU KNOW, IN OUR OFFICE THAT COME WITH OTHER FUNDING STREAMS. AND THEY DID THE WORK AND THEY WENT TO THE COMMUNITY CORRECTIONS PARTNERSHIP, AND THE CCP FUNDED THOSE TWO PARALEGALS. AND SO YOU WILL HEAR NO OBJECTION FROM ME FOR BRINGING OTHER FUNDING STREAMS IN AND BRINGING POSITIONS IN. RIGHT. CAN YOU CAN YOU ANSWER A QUESTION FOR ME THEN? SO WHEN YOU FACTOR IN COLAS INTO THE BASE FROM THE PRIOR YEAR THAT WAS ADOPTED, LET'S SAY. AND YOU AND YOU HAVE A COW RECOMMENDS DOES THAT IS THAT EXCEEDING THE COST OF LIVING ADJUSTMENTS FOR ALL OF THEIR EMPLOYEES AND SALARY AND BENEFITS? SO WE DON'T WHEN WE LOOK AT WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING, WE DON'T FACTOR IN COST OF LIVING INCREASES. WE FACTOR IN THE DIRECTION THAT WAS RECOMMENDED BY OUR OFFICE. AND THAT WAS ULTIMATELY APPROVED BY THE BOARD AT MIDYEAR FOR THE GENERAL FUND. SO HOW MUCH THE GENERAL FUND IS GOING TO CONTRIBUTE TO A DEPARTMENT. AND SO WHAT A NET ZERO NET ZERO GENERAL FUND CONTRIBUTION MEANS REALLY IS A REDUCTION. [04:20:01] LIKE THAT'S WHAT IT MEANS TO THAT'S WHERE I WAS GOING BECAUSE EVERYTHING I CAN TELL IT'S A REDUCTION OF. SO IN THE 256, IT'S A REDUCTION IN THE. 227 IT'S NOT A REDUCTION. 227 IT'S AN INCREASE BOTH FOR THE MARIJUANA ENFORCEMENT TEAM CONTINUING TO BE FUNDED BUT FUNDED OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND. AND THOSE TWO ADDITIONAL AB 109 THAT ACTUALLY FACILITATES AN INCREASE. AND WE RECOGNIZE WHEN WE SAY NET ZERO ON THE GENERAL FUND, WE RECOGNIZE WE'RE ASKING DEPARTMENTS TO TAKE A HIT AND UNPLEASANT. YES. VERY UNPLEASANT AND NOT WHAT WE WANT TO DO. BUT WHEN WE HAVE LIMITED FUNDING, IT'S REALLY OUR ONLY OPTION IN ORDER TO HAVE A BALANCED BUDGET. I TALKED IN DAY ONE ABOUT THAT, JUST UNDER $2.6 MILLION. IF WE WERE TO ACTUALLY REALIZE THAT AND NOT HAVE THINGS LIKE SALARY SAVINGS AND SAVINGS AND SERVICES AND SUPPLIES AND REVENUES THAT COME IN HIGHER BECAUSE WE'RE BUDGETING CONSERVATIVELY, WE WOULD BE IT WOULD BE CATASTROPHIC FOR US. WE KNOW THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN, BUT WE WORK REALLY HARD TO MAKE THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, AT, YOU KNOW, DECISIONS THAT WE'D LIKE TO MAKE DIFFERENT DECISIONS AND FEEDBACK THAT WE LIKE. THERE'S LOTS OF THINGS I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE DEPARTMENTS, YOU KNOW. I'D LIKE TO COME TO THE BOARD AND COME WITH THE CEO AND RECOMMEND THAT WE FUND ALL KINDS OF THINGS THAT I THINK ARE VERY, VERY IMPORTANT. BUT WHEN THE NUMBERS DON'T WORK, THEN, WELL, MY, MY WHOLE POINT IN ALL THE CALCULATIONS, IN A LONG, CONVOLUTED WAY OF SAYING THIS, I APOLOGIZE. BUT WAS THAT BASED ON ALL MY CALCULATIONS, IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE GOING A LITTLE BIT IN REVERSE, EVEN THOUGH ON PAPER IT SHOWS THAT WE'RE GETTING MORE MONEY FOR THE DEPARTMENT. BUT LIKE YOU SAID, IT ACTUALLY RESULTS IN A LITTLE BIT OF A NET REDUCTION WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A ZERO COST. YEAH, I THAT'S WHERE I WAS GOING WITH ALL THAT. YEAH. AND I WOULD SAY FOR THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S BUDGET, I WOULD REALLY LOOK AT THE TWO BUDGETS SEPARATELY. SO THE 227, WHICH IS THE PROSECUTION BUDGET. THAT BUDGET IS ACTUALLY RECEIVING AN INCREASE, SOME OF IT BECAUSE THEY FOUND OTHER FUNDING STREAMS, SOME OF IT BECAUSE WE'RE USING GENERAL FUND TO SUPPORT PRIOR BOARD DECISIONS. AND IT'S REALLY THE 256 THAT'S TAKING A HIT. THEY'VE ALSO SEEN A DECREASE IN THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS IN THEIR REVENUE STREAM THAT'S DEDICATED TO THEM. AND OUR PRINCIPLES SAY THAT EXPENDITURES GET REDUCED AT THE SAME LEVEL. I APPRECIATE THAT, AARON, BECAUSE. THANK YOU SIR. I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THE MATH WAS MATCHING. NO, MY MY WHOLE POINT WAS THAT IT APPEARED TO ME WE'RE GOING IN REVERSE WITH THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE BECAUSE WE'RE TAKING A HIT TO BE NET NEUTRAL, WHICH IS WHAT WE ARE. BUT ON PAPER, IT LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE GETTING MORE MONEY, BUT IN REALITY, THEY'RE GETTING A REDUCTION. NOT ON THE OTHER ONE, THOUGH, FOR THE 250. WELL, NOT NOT YOU HAVE TO BE SPECIFIC. WITNESS. NO, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE DAS OFFICE PROPER, NOT THE VICTIM WITNESS FUND. BUT OH THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT EXPLANATION BECAUSE I THOUGHT I WAS. YEAH. OKAY. AND D A BRIDGETT. I GOT I HAVE A COUPLE MORE QUESTIONS FOR YOU. YOU'VE SPOKEN ABOUT RACE BLIND CHARGING, THE BODY CAMERAS. WE ALREADY HEARD FROM THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT. WE KNOW FROM OUR PD THAT THEY'VE GOTTEN SIGNIFICANT STAFFING INCREASES TO VIEW THOSE IMAGES ON THOSE CAMERAS. YOUR PROP 36, YOU TALKED ABOUT THAT, THE FELONY MURDER RULE. I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU MENTIONED THAT, WHICH IS INCREASED WORK FOR YOUR STAFF. YEAH. ABOUT THE BOXES OF MURDER FILES FROM THE 80S AND 90S COMING BACK. IT'S THE. THAT'S WHAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT. FELONY MURDER RULE. ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. OKAY. I DIDN'T I DIDN'T CONNECT THOSE TWO. AND THEN WE TALKED WE'VE TALKED PREVIOUSLY ABOUT BRADY VIOLATIONS AND HOW BEING UNDERSTAFFED CAN LEAD TO INCREASED BRADY VIOLATIONS. AND IT'S NOT INTENTIONAL BRADY VIOLATIONS. IT'S SIMPLY EVERYBODY'S SO STRESSED AND SWAMPED WITH WORK THAT THINGS CAN GET OVERLOOKED. AND THAT'S TECHNICALLY A BRADY VIOLATION. UNINTENTIONAL. VERY DIFFERENT ANIMAL THAN AN INTENTIONAL BRADY VIOLATION. SURE. AND THEN THE LAST THING THAT I'VE BEEN ABLE TO OBSERVE AND I HAVEN'T I HAVEN'T EVER ASKED YOU ABOUT THIS, BUT CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THE LEGISLATION THAT CHANGED? YOU TALKED ABOUT LEGISLATION FOR 290 PCS. AND SO WHEN I WAS WORKING AS A SEX CRIME INVESTIGATOR BACK IN MY DAY EVERYBODY THAT CAME OUT OF PRISON WITH ONE OF THE, THEY WOULD BE A REGISTRANT FOR LIFE UNDER 290. AND I REGISTERED A LOT OF THEM WHEN THEY CAME OUT OF PRISON. SO NOW WHAT I UNDERSTAND IS THAT 290 HAS CHANGED AND THE LAW HAS CHANGED WHERE THEY CAN PETITION TO GET RELEASED FROM 290 EARLIER THAN A LIFETIME COMMITMENT. CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT? YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. THAT'S ONE OF THE OTHER CHANGES IN THE LAW. AND LIKE I SAID, I'D BE VERY HAPPY TO SPEND MULTIPLE HOURS OR DAYS TALKING ABOUT ALL THE CHANGES IN THE LAW, BUT THAT IS ONE OF THEM IS THE CHANGE IN REGISTRATION, WHERE IF YOU'RE A SEX OFFENDER, IT USED TO BE A LIFETIME REGISTRATION. NOW IT IS A TIERED SYSTEM BASED ON THE CRIME. [04:25:05] SO AND THAT IS RETROACTIVE. SO WE DO GET THOSE PETITIONS ALL THE TIME. IT'S ANOTHER UNFUNDED MANDATE FOR MY OFFICE TO RESPOND TO THOSE, OPPOSE THEM WHEN WE CAN FILE MOTIONS APPEAR IN COURT TO TRY TO CONTINUE TO HAVE THEM REGISTER FOR LIFE. BUT THERE IS THE TIERED SYSTEM NOW THAT'S IN EFFECT. SO THAT'S GOING TO BE A CONTINUED THING THAT WE'RE WORKING ON AS WELL. THANK YOU. YEP. THANK YOU, SUPERVISOR LONG SUPERVISOR PLUMMER. THANK YOU. DA BRIDGETT. YOU KNOW, I THINK ONE OF THE, THE THINGS THAT IS EXCITING ABOUT THIS BUDGET OVERALL WHILE NOT EASY, BUT IS THAT WE ARE SEEING IT GO DOWN. AND I THINK AS WE'RE HEADING TOWARDS AN UNCERTAIN FISCAL TIME, THAT I THINK THAT'S A BIG ACCOMPLISHMENT FOR THE COUNTY AS A WHOLE TO BE ABLE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO THAT, GIVEN IT PARTICULARLY THAT EVEN IN DEPARTMENTS WHERE WE'RE CUTTING 5% OF THE FTES OUT OF OUT OF THE TOTAL, WE'RE SEEING OUR SALARY AND BENEFITS GO UP. AND SO AS AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST FEW DAYS, EVEN IF WE KEEP OUR HEADCOUNT EXACTLY THE SAME, WE'RE GOING TO SEE OUR SALARIES AND BENEFITS GO UP. SO WITH THAT SAID, I, I SHARE SOME OF THE SAME SENTIMENT AS SUPERVISOR KELSTROM THAT THIS IS A WISH LIST AND IT WOULD BE GREAT TO FULFILL IT. BUT I'M CURIOUS IF YOU HAD TO PRIORITIZE THIS AND, YOU KNOW, PICK YOUR TOP 1 TO 2 THINGS, WHAT WOULD THAT BE FROM THE REQUEST THAT YOU MADE? YEAH. YOU KNOW, THE FIRST AND FOREMOST IS, IS THE LEGAL SECRETARY RECLASSIFICATION TO ONE TWO. THAT HAS BEEN SOMETHING I'VE BEEN BRINGING UP YEAR OVER YEAR BECAUSE IT'S VERY IMPORTANT. AND THEY ARE SO INTEGRAL TO THE OFFICE AND EVERYTHING THAT WE DO AND THE COST TO US WHEN ONE OF THEM IS BURNT OUT, WHICH UNFORTUNATELY HAPPENS TOO QUICKLY AND THEY OVERTURN OR THEY GET TO THE TOP OF THEIR PAY SCALE AND THEY HAVE NO MORE ADVANCEMENT. AND NOW THEY HAVE CONTINUE TO HAVE HIGH CASELOAD THAT THEY'RE DOING IS JUST, IT'S NOT ATTAINABLE. AND IF WE CAN GIVE THEM A CAREER LADDER, A CAREER PATH THAT GETS THEM ADVANCEMENT FROM A LEGAL SECRETARY, ONE TO A TO A TWO, WHICH COMES WITH IT ADDITIONAL PAY, WHICH IS, IS NOT A LOT OF PAY IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF THE OVERALL COUNTY BUDGET. IT IS A HUGE THING FOR A VERY IMPORTANT PART OF OUR OFFICE. I HAVE TO SAY THAT THAT WOULD BE MY, MY NUMBER ONE REQUEST AND SUPPORTING THAT UNIT OVERALL WITH EVEN A COUPLE ADDITIONAL POSITIONS WOULD GO A LONG WAY OF TAKING WORK OFF OF THE ATTORNEYS THAT THE ATTORNEYS ARE DOING THAT CAN BE HANDLED BY SECRETARIES TO GIVE TO FREE UP ATTORNEY TIME. SO I BELIEVE IT'S REALLY THAT LEGAL SECRETARY LEVEL THAT THAT NEEDS THE MOST CRITICAL NEED AT THIS POINT IS THAT I WOULD SUPPORT THAT. SUPERVISOR PLUMMER. IF THAT'S. I DON'T THINK THAT'S UNREASONABLE. AND WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT SERVICES AND SUPPLIES. THERE ARE CERTAIN AREAS OF THAT THAT WERE CUT. THAT I WOULD REQUEST TO BE RE REINSTATED. I KNOW THERE WAS A, FROM, FROM WHAT I REQUESTED THE 344,000 THAT THAT NOT BE HELD TO THAT TOTAL AMOUNT. EVEN IF IT WAS HALF OF THAT AMOUNT, IT WOULD HELP US GET TO THE POINT THAT WE NEED FOR OUR EXPERT TESTIMONY AND ALL THE OTHER CRITICAL SUPPLIES. AND IT WOULD BE IN LINE WITH WHAT WE ACTUALLY ENDED UP SPENDING THIS YEAR THAT WE BUDGETED. SO EVEN IF WE'RE COMING IN HALFWAY ON THE SERVICES AND SUPPLIES, NOT THE 344,000, BUT, YOU KNOW, HALF OF THAT OR 150 PLUS THE SECRETARY ONE, TWO, AND, AND MAYBE TWO MORE SECRETARY POSITIONS TO BOLSTER THAT. THAT UNIT WOULD BE GO A LONG WAY TO SUPPORT THE DA'S OFFICE. THAT'S HELPFUL TO HEAR. I WANTED TO CLARIFY ONE THING AS WELL, WHICH IS IT SOUNDED LIKE YOU WERE SAYING THAT CURRENTLY THE WITNESS COORDINATOR IS IS UNDER FILLING A POSITION WITHIN THE INVESTIGATIVE UNIT. IT IS, YES. AND SO IS THAT ALSO THE POSITION THAT, ACCORDING TO THE CEO RECOMMENDATION, WOULD NOT BE FUNDED FOR THE FIRST SIX MONTHS? NO, THAT THAT'S ONE THAT WASN'T SUPPORTED COMPLETELY. WHAT WAS THE ONE WHAT WAS THE POSITION THAT'S ONLY FUNDED FOR SIX MONTHS? THAT'S IN UNDER BUDGET TWO, FIVE, SIX FOR. AND IT WAS AN ADVOCATE POSITION THAT IS UNFUNDED FOR THE FIRST SIX MONTHS OF THE OF THE YEAR. OKAY. AND THEN MY UNDERSTANDING AND WE'VE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS IS. SO YOU HAVE 28 TOTAL DEPUTY DAS. YES. APPROVED FIVE VACANCIES RIGHT NOW, BUT YOU'VE ACTUALLY UNDER FILLED TWO OF THEM WITH PARALEGALS THAT ARE THEN GOING TO BE MOVING TO AN ACTUAL PARALEGAL POSITION WITH THE AB $109. YES. WE'VE BEEN WE DID THAT AS A PILOT PROGRAM OVER THE LAST YEAR WITH THE LEGWORK THAT WE WERE DOING TO ADD THOSE ADDITIONAL POSITIONS THROUGH FUNDING THROUGH [04:30:04] THE CCP, THE AB 109 MONEY. SO WE WENT AHEAD AND GOT THOSE FILLED IN, UNDER, UNDER FILLED THEM IN ATTORNEY POSITIONS DURING THAT SHORT TIME PERIOD OVER THE LAST YEAR. SO WE COULD GET THOSE POSITIONS APPROVED AND ON THE BUDGET AND MOVE THEM OVER. OKAY. SO RIGHT NOW YOU REALISTICALLY HAVE THREE VACANCIES OUT OF THE 28 IN THE DEPUTY DA, BECAUSE YOU CAN'T YOU COULDN'T FILL THOSE TWO POSITIONS CURRENTLY UNTIL THOSE ARE MOVED INTO THEIR SEPARATE CLASSIFICATION. THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. AND I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT BECAUSE I THINK YOU KNOW, SOME OF WHAT WAS SAID EARLIER, I'M NOT SURE IN TERMS OF PARITY ACROSS DEPARTMENTS. LIKE I THINK ON ONE HAND, I'M LIKE, YEAH, IT WOULD BE GREAT TO MATCH US WITH OTHER COUNTIES ARE DOING, BUT ALSO OUR OUR TOTAL TAX REVENUE IS LESS THAN MANY OF THE OTHER COUNTIES. SO WE DON'T HAVE THE MEANS TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT AT THE SAME TIME. I THINK WHAT WE HEARD TODAY IS THAT, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS ARE SUFFERING FROM THE SAME CHALLENGES IN TERMS OF VACANCIES. I MEAN, WE HEARD FROM THE PUBLIC DEFENDER THAT THEY I BELIEVE I THINK YOU SAID FIVE VACANCIES, A 30% ISH OR 30% OR HIGHER, AND THAT EVEN THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, I THINK YOU SAID 29 OUT OF 230 SOME POSITIONS, SO ABOUT 11% VACANCY. SO WE'RE SEEING THIS ACROSS THE BOARD. WE'VE SEEN I THINK WE'VE SEEN STRIDES, AS WE TALKED ABOUT ON MONDAY WITH THE RECRUITMENT EFFORTS. BUT THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, EVEN WITH COUNTY COUNCIL WHERE WE HEARD EARLIER, I THINK THAT WAS TUESDAY, ABOUT THREE VACANCIES AND THE DESIRE TO DO WHAT YOU'VE BEEN DOING HERE IN TERMS OF UNDERFILLING THAT WITH THE LEGAL SECRETARY. SO I JUST WANTED TO SHARE KIND OF THAT'S MORE FOR THE, YOU KNOW, THE BOARD AND THE PUBLIC IS THAT IT LOOKS LIKE SOME OF THE SAME CONCERNS THAT YOU'RE HAVING. YES. YOU MADE A BIGGER ASK PERHAPS THAN THE OTHERS. AND I THINK WE HAVE TO CALIBRATE THAT TO WHAT'S WITHIN THE MEANS OF THE COUNTY. AT THE SAME TIME, I THINK IT SOUNDS LIKE A LOT OF THE SAME STRATEGIES ARE BEING USED ACROSS THE COUNTY, WHICH IS WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS IF SOMETHING'S WORKING IN ONE DEPARTMENT THAT THAT'S BEING SHARED ACROSS OTHERS, AND ALSO THAT, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THESE CHALLENGES ARE SYSTEMIC AND REGIONAL AND NATIONAL. AND SO WE'LL EXPECT TO SEE THEM AND HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, ADDRESS THOSE OVER THE COURSE OF THE NEXT FEW YEARS. THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU. OH THANK YOU. SUPERVISOR. PLUMMER. SUPERVISOR. KELSTROM. YEAH. AND I MEAN, I'M, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THAT. I MEAN, THAT WAS THE NUMBER ONE ON YOUR LIST. MY ONLY FEAR WITH THAT IS THEN WOULD THE PEOPLE ON ASHLEY'S DEPARTMENT PUBLIC DEFENDER, WOULD WE HAVE TO RECLASSIFY ALL OF THEM? AND HOW MANY PARALEGALS DO WE HAVE IN THE COUNTY COUNSEL'S OFFICE? PATRICIA, DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA? WE HAVE ONE. IT'S BEEN VACANT FOR JUST ONE. OKAY. SO, ASHLEY, IT'S ACTUALLY THE LEGAL SECRETARY. FIVE. I THINK WE HAVE SIX MONTHS. OKAY. SIX OR 5 OR 6. SO I THINK YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE WRONG POSITIONS THOUGH. PARALEGALS. IT'S ACTUALLY LEGAL SECRETARIES. OKAY. SO COUNTY COUNSEL, DO YOU HAVE LEGAL TWO LEGAL TWO LEGAL SECRETARIES AND A LAW CLERK. ALL RIGHT. SO WE HAVE TO RECLASSIFY ALL THEM. THEN TWO, WE HAVE TO OFFER THEM THIS PROMOTION. SO LEGAL SECRETARY CLASSIFICATION ONE TWO WOULD APPLY TO THAT COUNTY WIDE. SO IF THEY HAD INDIVIDUALS WHO WERE QUALIFIED FOR THE TWO THEY WOULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR A TWO AS WELL. OKAY. AND SUPERVISOR KELSTROM WHEN THAT CAME BEFORE THE BOARD ON MAY 27TH, THAT WAS FACTORED IN IN THAT IT WOULD IMPACT THOSE THREE DEPARTMENTS. AND SO THAT WAS, IF I'M REMEMBERING CORRECTLY, THE ROUGHLY $69,000 COUNTY WIDE ACROSS THOSE THREE DEPARTMENTS THAT WOULD GO UP. AND IF I'M WRONG, BUT IT WOULD BE AND THIS MAY BE A QUESTION FOR AARON OR JEN OR DAVE JARED WOULDN'T BE FOR YOU. JARED WOULD BE. BUT BUT THE LEGAL LEGAL SECRETARY, ONE, IF I REMEMBER RIGHT, WAS GOING TO BE DROPPED, LIKE BY 2.5%. CORRECT. I, I AND THEN THE LEGAL SECRETARY TWO WOULD BE UP. THAT IS NOT THE REQUEST THAT I HAVE MADE. I'VE MADE THAT THE LEGAL SECRETARY ONE REMIND US. I'M SORRY LO IN THE REQUIREMENTS FOR LEGAL. YEAH. IT WAS LOWERING THE REQUIREMENTS FOR LEGAL SECRETARY ONE AND THEN CORRECT. SO LIKE THE ENTRY SPOT. AARON CAN YOU. THE JOB DESCRIPTIONS WOULD BE DIFFERENT. SO THE LEGAL SECRETARY ONE WHILE IT WOULD HAVE THE SAME DUTIES AND QUANTITY OF WORK, BUT THEY WOULD BE HANDLING THE MISDEMEANOR CASES AND INTAKE WHILE THEY'RE LEARNING THE PROCESS LEGAL. AND THAT TAKES, YOU KNOW, A FEW YEARS BEFORE YOU CAN QUALIFY. AND THAT'S WHAT WE TRY TO DO INTERNALLY IN A LEGAL SECRETARY, TWO WOULD BE THE, THE PEOPLE THAT WOULD MOVE INTO DOING OUR HOMICIDES ARE SERIOUS SEX CASES AND ALL OF THAT. BUT MY REQUEST IS NOT AT ALL TO LOWER THE PAY OF A LEGAL SECRETARY. IF WE DID THE CLASSIFICATION ONE TWO, NOT TO LOWER THE PAY OF THE LEGAL SECRETARY ONE AT ALL, THAT WOULD SIGNIFICANTLY IMPACT OUR RECRUITMENT ABILITIES, WHICH ARE ALREADY DIFFICULT. [04:35:01] IT WOULD PUT A LEGAL SECRETARY BELOW A LEGAL PROCESS CLERK C STEP, WHICH WOULD BE A BAD THING. I'M REQUESTING LEGAL SECRETARY ONE TO REMAIN AT. IT'S AT WHAT A CURRENT LEGAL SECRETARY IS, WITH A LEGAL SECRETARY, TWO BEING ADDED IN AT A AT A HIGHER PAY SCALE. AND THAT'S WHAT WAS CALCULATED TO BE THE 69,000 ACROSS ALL IMPACTED DEPARTMENTS. OKAY. AND THEN THE BUT THEN THE LEGAL SECRETARY SUPERVISOR, WHICH WOULD BE THE THIRD CAREER STEP. YES. I MEAN, SO AARON, WOULD THAT MEAN THAT THERE WOULD BE A LEGAL SECRETARY SUPERVISOR IN THE COUNTY COUNTY COUNCIL'S OFFICE THAT WOULD BE SUPERVISING ONE OTHER PERSON. SO I DON'T THINK COUNTY COUNCIL HAS A LEGAL SECRETARY SUPERVISOR CURRENTLY. OKAY. SOME OF THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS DO. AND THE INCREASE I BELIEVE THAT WAS CALCULATED IN THE 69,000 WAS I'M SORRY, THE ONE AND THEN THE TWO, I BELIEVE WAS A 5% HIGHER THAN THE ONE. AND THEN ALSO BUMPING UP THE LEGAL SECRETARY SUPERVISOR FOR COMPACTION ISSUES, BUT THERE WASN'T, I DON'T THINK, AT LEAST IN THAT INITIAL, A CHANGE IN LIKE REQUIREMENTS FOR BEING HIRED IN THAT POSITION, AT LEAST IN THAT PROPOSAL. AND I WILL SAY, I WILL DEFER TO MONICA FOR THE SPORT SERVICES DIRECTOR THAT THOSE CLASSIFICATIONS THAT WERE INCLUDED IN THE LAST PRESENTATION WERE DRAFTS BY THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, BUT WERE NOT DRAFTS BY OUR SUPPORT SERVICES. SO THOSE WOULD NEED TO BE UPDATED IF THERE WAS A DIFFERENT DECISION MADE TODAY. OKAY. AND AARON. DON'T GO ANYWHERE. SO I HAD ASKED YOU ALSO TO WORK OUT. SO WE HAVE THE CALCULATIONS FOR THE $69,000, WHICH WOULD BE ACROSS THE BOARD, ALL DEPARTMENTS, LEGAL SECRETARY ONE AND TWO. THE OTHER THING THAT I ASKED YOU TO CALCULATE FOR ME, AND I WAS JUST CHECKING MY EMAIL. I'M NOT SURE IF YOU SENT IT TO ME, BUT I DID SEND IT THIS MORNING. YOU DID SEND IT. I DIDN'T SEE IT. I SENT IT THIS MORNING, LIKE BEFORE NINE, PROBABLY. BUT I CAN PULL IT UP. OKAY, HERE WE GO. SO I HAD ASKED YOU TO CALCULATE. WELL, WHY DON'T WHY DON'T YOU JUST GIVE US A RUNDOWN AS TO IF WE ADDED TWO NEW POSITIONS TO THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY FOR TWO ADDITIONAL LEGAL SECRETARIES TO TAKE, TAKE SOME OF THIS LOAD OFF THE ATTORNEYS. WHAT WOULD THAT COST THE COUNTY? SO I DID A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT THINGS ON THIS IS I CALCULATED THE, THE LEGAL SECRETARY TWO AT A C STEP, SHOULD THE LEGAL SECRETARY ONE TO BE APPROVED AS THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY PROPOSED IT AT THE BOARD MEETING A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO. THE COST OF THAT WOULD BE 178,400. I ALSO CALCULATED A LEGAL SECRETARY AT THE C STEP. SHOULD THAT NOT BE APPROVED WITH. SO JUST A STRAIGHT LEGAL SECRETARY. AND THAT WAS 172,084. SO WHAT WOULD THAT BE IN AGGREGATE FOR THE. THE TWO ADDITIONAL. SO IF WE. SO IF WE ADDED. SO IF WE SAID WE WERE GOING TO APPROVE A LEGAL SECRETARY ONE TWO WITH THE 5% INCREASE, THAT WAS A 69,000 PLUS. WE'RE GOING TO ADD TWO MORE. THE TOTAL COST WOULD BE JUST OVER $247,000. 247688 SHOULD WE NOT APPROVE THE ONE TWO WITH ANY SORT OF PAY DIFFERENCE IN BETWEEN THE TWO AND JUST KEEP THE STRAIGHT LEGAL SECRETARY, THE DIFFERENCE WOULD OF ADDING TWO POSITIONS WOULD BE 172, $172,084 AT A C STEP. RUN THAT RUN THAT BY ME ONE MORE TIME. SO THE 247 WAS IF WE ADDED TWO POSITIONS. YEAH. SO 247 IS IF WE ADD TWO POSITIONS AND APPROVE THE LEGAL SECRETARY ONE TWO CLASSIFICATION, THE 172 IS IF WE ADD TWO POSITIONS AND DON'T APPROVE THE LEGAL SECRETARY ONE TWO. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. CEO RICKERT, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING? YES. I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY WITH MISS BURTON, THERE WAS ALSO A SECOND PROPOSAL TO REDUCE THE REQUIREMENTS OF OF THE LEGAL SECRETARY ONE AND THEN SUBSEQUENTLY HAVE A MINOR REDUCTION IN SALARY AND THEN CREATE A LEGAL SECRETARY. TWO WHICH ALL THE ONES WOULD JUMP TO, WHICH WOULD ALSO ENTAIL A 2.5% INCREASE IN, I BELIEVE, A MINOR INCREASE WITH THE SUPERVISOR, WHICH WOULD BE MUCH LESS IMPACT ON THE BUDGET. AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS ALLUDING TO ORIGINALLY. I THOUGHT THAT THAT WAS THE. YES. SO THAT SO THAT IMPACTS, I BELIEVE, THE QUESTION ORIGINALLY ASKED AND IT WAS REALLY ORIGINALLY ASKED, I THINK BY SUPERVISOR PLUMMER IS IF WE APPROVED A LEGAL SECRETARY ONE TWO WITH THE LEGAL SECRETARY, ONE BEING 2.5% LOWER THAN WHAT IS NOW, BUT REDUCING THE REQUIREMENTS FOR HIRING. SO THERE'S BEEN SOME STRUGGLES WITH WE HAVE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS, RIGHT, FOR THEM FOR TO HIRE AND TO SCREEN IN. AND WE HAVEN'T BEEN SUCCESSFUL AT GETTING PEOPLE THAT HAVE THAT LEVEL OF EXPERIENCE TO HAVE A LEGAL SECRETARY, ONE AT 2.5% LOWER, AND THEN HAVE THE LEGAL SECRETARY TO BE AT 2.5% HIGHER WITH A VERY SLIGHT, [04:40:03] LIKE HALF PERCENT BUMP TO THE LEGAL SECRETARY. SUPERVISOR. AND THAT AMOUNT WAS IN THE $28,000, 24,000 163 WAS THE DIFFERENCE WITH THAT PLAN VERSUS THE PLAN OF JUST A 5% INCREASE FOR THE TWO. OKAY. IS THAT CEO RICKERT YOU GOOD? THAT'S GOOD. THAT'S EXPLANATION AND THAT'S THE ONE I WOULD SUPPORT. OKAY. OKAY. SUPERVISOR. PLUMMER. YEAH. AND THAT'S AS I WAS KIND OF THINKING THROUGH THIS YESTERDAY, I HAD OFFERED THAT AS KIND OF AN IN-BETWEEN SCENARIO THAT MIGHT BE AMENABLE. I DID GET FEEDBACK FROM BOTH DISTRICT ATTORNEY BRIDGETT AND ASHLEY JONES THAT THEY FELT THAT WOULD BE CHALLENGING. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO THAT OR IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO THAT AS WELL. AND SO WE'LL BRING ASHLEY UP WHEN, AFTER, WHEN WE COME BACK. SO WE'LL JUST LEAVE THIS TIME FOR THE DAY. ABSOLUTELY. IT WOULD BE CHALLENGING IF WE WERE TO DECREASE THE PAY OF THE LEGAL SECRETARY ONE. BECAUSE IT WOULD PUT IT AT A LEVEL OF BELOW A C STEP OF A LEGAL PROCESS. CLERK. SO CURRENTLY WE HAVE LEGAL PROCESS CLERKS IN OUR OFFICE, WHICH HAVE FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS HAVE BEEN THE STEPPING STONE TO THEN BECOME A LEGAL SECRETARY. SO WE ALREADY HAVE THAT. WE DON'T NEED TO MAKE A LEGAL SECRETARY HAVE ITS OWN STEPPING STONE. BUT THE PROBLEM IS, IS THAT THE PAY FROM THE LEGAL SECRETARY. LEGAL PROCESS CLERK TO A LEGAL SECRETARY IS NOT A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE. SO WE ARE HAVING PEOPLE WHO ALREADY ARE LEGAL PROCESS CLERKS THAT DON'T WANT TO APPLY TO BE A LEGAL SECRETARY, BECAUSE THE WORK IS SO MUCH MORE AND THE PAY IS SO LOW. SO IF WE GO IN NOW AND SAY, OKAY, NOW WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THE LEGAL SECRETARY PAY AND PUT IT BELOW A C STEP OF A LEGAL PROCESS. CLERK THAT HURTS RECRUITMENT. WE ARE FOR SURE NOT GOING TO GET ANYONE WHO'S A LEGAL PROCESS CLERK, ALREADY LEARNING IN THE OFFICE TO PROMOTE OR WANT TO APPLY TO BE A LEGAL SECRETARY. AND IT'S AND IT'S GOING TO MAKE US LESS COMPETITIVE WITH OTHER COUNTIES. AND JUST THE LEGAL SECRETARY TO COMMUNITY IN THE COUNTY AT ALL. OUR JOB FLIER IS GOING TO GO FROM A PAY THAT WAS A LITTLE BIT HIGHER TO NOW LOWER. LOWERING THE PAY OF THE ENTRY LEVEL PAY IS ONLY GOING TO HURT RECRUITMENT. IT'S NOT GOING TO HELP IT. AND WE ALREADY HAVE AN ENTRY LEVEL POSITION OF A LEGAL PROCESS CLERK FOR THEM TO GET INTO THE OFFICE AND LEARN THE BASICS BEFORE THEY MOVE ON TO A LEGAL LEGAL SECRETARY. BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, A LEGAL SECRETARY IS ONE THAT THEY'RE ALL, WHETHER THEY'RE A ONE OR A TWO, THEY'RE THEY'RE HAVING A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF WORKLOAD. AND IT'S TYPES OF CASES. IT'S NOT WORKLOAD, IT'S TYPES OF CASES. AND A LEGAL SECRETARY, ONE, WRITING THE JOB CLASSIFICATION SO THAT THEY'RE HANDLING, YOU KNOW, THE LOWER LEVEL, LESS COMPLEX CASES. AND THEN A LEGAL SECRETARY, TWO, HANDLING THE MORE COMPLEX CASES, HOMICIDES AND ALL OF THAT. SO I, I CAN'T SUPPORT OUR LEGAL SECRETARY POSITION GETTING A DECREASE AT ALL. IT WOULD ONLY CAUSE MORE ISSUES FOR MY OFFICE AND THE OTHER OFFICES THAT COULD BE IMPACTED BY THIS THAT ARE ALREADY HAVING RECRUITMENT ISSUES THERE. I THIS IS AN AREA THAT I FEEL NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED IS THE THE CAREER ADVANCEMENT AND PAY FOR THOSE POSITIONS. THEY'RE VERY CRUCIAL TO THE OFFICE, CRUCIAL TO PUBLIC SAFETY. AND THE AMOUNT OF MONEY TO DO THESE SMALL CHANGES IS NOT A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY. WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THE GRAND SCHEME OF THE ENTIRE BUDGET OF THE COUNTY. SO I'M GOING TO STICK WITH MY ORIGINAL REQUEST. THANK YOU. SUPERVISOR PLUMMER. YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO COMMENT. I THINK IN TERMS OF THE DOLLAR FIGURE THAT, YEAH, 69,000 ACROSS THREE DEPARTMENTS, 20,000 IS IS VERY MINIMAL. AND SO I THINK IT'S WORTH IT IF IT CAN HELP. I THINK ONE OF THE CHALLENGES AND MAYBE THIS WOULD GET WORKED OUT WITH SUPPORT SERVICES IS IN TERMS OF THE DISTINCTIONS BETWEEN LIKE WHAT THOSE TWO ARE AND FIGURING THAT PIECE OUT. BUT I THINK FROM, AT LEAST FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, FROM A FINANCIAL STANDPOINT FOR THE COUNTY, IF THE COUNTY CAN INVEST 7000 ACROSS A COUPLE OF DEPARTMENTS AND SEE INCREASED RETENTION. THAT FEELS WORTH IT TO ME. OKAY. THANK YOU. SUPERVISOR LONG. THANK YOU CHAIR. SO I ALSO WOULD BE AGAINST LOWERING THE STARTING SALARY FOR A LEGAL SECRETARY. ONE I THINK THAT'S COUNTERPRODUCTIVE. I BELIEVE THAT TO REMAIN COMPETITIVE, YOU NEED TO PRESENT A WAGE THAT IS COMMENSURATE WITH THE DUTIES INVOLVED. AND I HAVE SEEN THIS IN MY TIME OF HIRING AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, WHERE YOU JUST END UP BRINGING THEM IN AT STEP TWO ANYWAY, [04:45:01] BECAUSE YOU WHEN THEY WHEN THEY INTERVIEW, IF IT'S NOT AN ACCEPTABLE STARTING WAGE FOR THE ONE, YOU'LL END UP STARTING THEM AS A TWO JUST TO GET THEM ON BOARD. SO I THINK WE START TO DEFEAT THE PROCESS BY ARTIFICIALLY LOWERING THE, THE WAGE BELOW WHAT IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE FOR THAT LEVEL OF WORK. AND I THINK AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THIS MAYBE WITH SOME MORE BOARD DISCUSSION HERE IN A MINUTE ONCE WE'RE DONE WITH ALL THE PRESENTATIONS. BUT PUBLIC SAFETY IS PUBLIC SAFETY IS NUMBER ONE TO ME. AND WE HAVE TO WE HAVE TO STAND TALL AND START TO ARGUE FOR PUBLIC SAFETY. AND I KNOW WE HAVE A VERY TIGHT BUDGET, BUT IT'S IT'S IMPERATIVE THAT WE TAKE THE WORKLOAD OFF THE CURRENT ATTORNEYS. AND WHAT MY WIFE. I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE. MY WIFE HAS HIRED SOME OF THE DISTRICT ATTORNEYS IN THE PAST IN HER HER CIVIL FIRM, AND SHE SAID, I LOVE TO GET THE DISTRICT ATTORNEYS BECAUSE THEY DO ALL THE CLERICAL WORK AND THEY'RE JUST A COMPLETE PACKAGE. AND I SAID, AND SHE GOES, WE HAVE TO WEAN THAT WHEN WEAN THEM OFF THAT PROCESS BECAUSE THEY'RE USED TO MAKING THEIR OWN COPIES. THEY'RE, THEY'RE USED TO DOING THIS. THEY'RE USED TO DOING THAT. AND IF WE WANT TO GET THE BEST BANG FOR OUR BUCK, WE WILL INCREASE THE TWO POSITIONS TO PROVIDE SOME RELIEF TO ALL THIS INCREASED WORKLOAD WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, AND WE WILL GO WITH THE ONE AND TWO TO MAKE IT A COMPETITIVE PROCESS, AND THEN WE WILL ALLOW OUR ATTORNEYS TO GET BACK TO THINGS LIKE THE BODY CAMERAS AND PROP 36 AND ALL THE FELONY MURDER RULE AND EVERYTHING. WE'VE SEEN THEM STRETCHED SO THIN ON WITH THAT PROCESS. SO I WOULD BE IN SUPPORT OF TWO NEW POSITIONS, AND TO HELP THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY OUT, AND I WOULD BE IN SUPPORT OF THE ONE AND TWO LEVELS TO MAKE THAT A COMPETITIVE HIRING PROCESS SO THAT PEOPLE. AND LITERALLY, IF WE DON'T GO WITH A. TWO WHEN PEOPLE ARE KIND OF TAPPED OUT AND THEY SEE THAT THEY HAVE NO FUTURE PROMOTION AND ABILITY TO MAKE MORE MONEY IN THEIR POSITION, THEY'RE GOING TO LEAVE. AND THAT'S A RETENTION THING. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU, CEO RICKERT. THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN CRYE AND I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY, BECAUSE IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WE WERE GOING TO LOWER THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE LEGAL SECRETARY ONE NOT REQUIRE TWO YEARS OF EXPERIENCE AND JUST SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCED THE REQUIREMENTS AS KIND OF AN ENTRY LEVEL IN. AND ONCE THEY MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE TWO YEARS, THEN THEY COULD QUALIFY FOR TWO, WHICH WOULD BE AT HIGHER PAY THAN THE LEGAL SECRETARY ONE. SO I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT THAT'S WHAT WAS PRESENTED TO ME, WAS THAT WE WERE NOT SIMPLY GOING TO PAY MORE PEOPLE MORE MONEY FOR THE SAME WORK, BUT THAT WE WERE GOING TO ACQUIRE AN ENTRY LEVEL POSITION TO ALLOW TO TRANSITION IN THAT POSITION, VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DID IN THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. SO I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT FOR THE BOARD. OKAY. WELL, I THINK WHAT WE'LL DO IS BECAUSE WE'RE GETTING INTO I KNOW THIS IS THE LAST PRESENTER, SO WE'LL HAVE MORE BOARD DISCUSSION BECAUSE I KNOW I WANT TO BRING UP MONICA FUGITT ON THIS TOPIC, BUT OR MAYBE SUPERVISOR KELSTROM WANTS TO TALK TO PUBLIC DEFENDER JONES. SO INSTEAD OF BRINGING PEOPLE UP DURING THIS PRESENTATION, I THINK WE'LL WAIT. WAS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS AS IT RELATES TO THE DA'S PRESENTATION? NO. OKAY, I THINK. I THINK THAT'S ALL OF THEM I DID HAVE, I WILL SAY YOUR YOUR PRESENTATION BECAUSE I'VE GONE BACK AND LOOKED AT THE THE GOALS AND THE OUTCOMES AND THE THE FISCAL BREAKDOWN. AND I'LL TELL YOU LIKE, AND TAKE THIS AS A VERY, LIKE, GREAT COMPLIMENT BECAUSE I HEAR YOU WERE A BRILLIANT PROSECUTOR OR LITIGATOR. SO YOUR PRESENTATIONS HAVE GOTTEN MORE, MORE THOROUGH. AND I REALLY APPRECIATE IT. IT'S A LOT MORE GRANULAR. AND IT'S, I REALLY, I REALLY DO APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. SO THANK YOU. OKAY. SO AT THIS TIME, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS WE'RE GOING TO MISS BLANKENSHIP, HOW MANY PUBLIC COMMENTERS DO WE HAVE BEFORE I OPEN THE HEARING CHAIR? AT THIS TIME, WE HAVE A REQUEST TO SPEAK. CAN I, CAN I JUST INTERJECT REAL QUICK? ABSOLUTELY. I THINK THE PLAN WAS FOR THE BOARD TO DISCUSS ANY OF THE ITEMS THAT YOU'VE DISCUSSED SO FAR BEFORE OPENING THE PUBLIC HEARING. I WAS JUST WONDERING FOR TIMEWISE WHERE WE WERE WITH EIGHT. OKAY. SO WE'LL START TO MY RIGHT WITH SUPERVISOR. PLUMMER. SUPERVISOR. PLUMMER. BECAUSE WE HAVE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENT HEADS HERE, WHO WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE BACK AFTER OR DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING? SO WHAT I WANT TO DO AT THIS TIME IS I WANT TO CUT ANY DEPARTMENT HEADS LOOSE THAT DON'T AREN'T GOING TO BE ASKED TO COME BACK, OR WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE LOOKING AT THEIR BUDGET OR MAKING ANY ADJUSTMENTS TO WHAT THE C, A, O S OR CEO'S OFFICE IS RECOMMENDED. HE IS ONE. YEAH. AYE WAS ONE. WE HAD TALKED ABOUT SOME ADJUSTMENTS TO THE ELECTIONS OFFICE, BUT I KNOW THAT THAT OTHER SUPERVISORS HAVE MENTIONED THAT AS WELL. AND THEN THERE WAS OBVIOUSLY THE D A AND THEN THE [04:50:03] ONE OTHER WAS RELATED TO THE CEO'S OFFICE. OKAY. SO I DON'T THINK HE'S LEAVING ANYWAY. OKAY. SO. SUPERVISOR HARMON. NO, I DON'T HAVE ANY. OKAY. SUPERVISOR. KELSTROM. YEAH, I PRETTY MUCH ASKED ALL MY QUESTIONS DURING WHEN THEY DID THEIR PRESENTATION, SO I'M GOOD. YOU DON'T NEED ANY. OKAY. THERE WE GO. SO WOULD BE PUBLIC DEFENDER, DISTRICT ATTORNEY, AND COUNTY COUNSEL, WHICH WE HAVE CURRENTLY PRESENT. SO THOSE THREE. OKAY. AND THEN FOR ME, I BELIEVE I JUST WANT TO DOUBLE CHECK THIS WITH IS JEN RICHARDSON HERE? I DON'T KNOW IF I SAW HER HERE, BUT MAYBE SOMEONE FROM CHILD SUPPORT. YES. YES. SHE'S SO. OH, SHE'S IN THE BACK THAT WAY. I'M SORRY. SO, YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT DOING THAT AS POSSIBLY A BUDGET AMENDMENT. CORRECT. SO I WOULDN'T NEED HER TO COME BACK. CORRECT. OKAY. I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT AND THEN AND THEN I KNOW LAURIE SCOTT IS GONE AND I BELIEVE THAT'S GOING TO BE A BUDGET AMENDMENT AS WELL. SO AND THEN OF COURSE, FOR ME, THE THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE FOR ME. SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT HAD BEEN BROUGHT UP ALREADY, BUT I'D LIKE THE SHERIFF OR UNDERSHERIFF RANDALL TO BE HERE AS WELL. SO THAT'S, THAT'S ALL WE HAVE. SO IF YOU DIDN'T HEAR YOUR NAME OR DEPARTMENT, I GUESS YOU'RE FREE TO STAY OR FREE TO GO. THAT WOULD BE UP TO YOU. OF COURSE. KNOW THE SHORT'S GOING TO STAY BECAUSE THIS IS LIKE HER SUPER BOWL. THIS IS WHAT SHE LIVES FOR. CAN YOU CAN YOU IMAGINE? OLD IS SHORT AT THANKSGIVING. IT'S GOT TO BE SO EXCITING. ARE YOU SURE YOU WANT TO LEAVE, CHIEF? I MEAN, YOU SEEMED HESITANT. THERE'S. THERE HE GOES. THERE HE GOES, MR. O'HARA. ALL RIGHT. NOLA. NOLA JUST GOT OUT ANOTHER BAG OF POPCORN AND A BIG AND A BIG GULP. NO. OKAY. ALL RIGHT, SO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO, AND JUST SO THE PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS ANY, WE'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING WILL TAKE EIGHT PUBLIC COMMENTERS WHO WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES. SUPERVISOR. CRYE. OOPS. I'M SORRY. WE NEED TO WE NEED TO HEAR ALL OF THE ITEMS THAT THE BOARD WANTS TO TALK ABOUT. RIGHT? WE DON'T HAVE TO, BUT WE CAN DO IT. CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, STEPHANIE, BECAUSE WE JUST TALKED ABOUT THIS DURING THE BREAK, BECAUSE WE CAN OPEN THE PUBLIC COMMENT HERE, COMMENT. AND THEN UNTIL WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING SO WE CAN MAKE ANY CHANGES NOW. AND MY INTENTION WOULD BE TO TAKE A BREAK, EVEN TO GIVE AARON TIME TO WRITE ALL THOSE DOWN, GET THOSE ON FILE WITH THE CLERK OF THE BOARD, THEN THE THEN THE PUBLIC HEARING CAN BE CLOSED. SO I WILL DEFINITELY DEFER TO AARON, BUT IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT ANY CHANGES YOU WANT TO MAKE, YOU CAN YOU CAN DEFINITELY SAY BEFORE THE PUBLIC HEARING BEGINS, THOSE COULD BE DONE BY A SIMPLE MAJORITY VOTE. ONCE THE PUBLIC HEARING OPENS, THOSE CHANGES CAN STILL BE DONE BY SIMPLE MAJORITY VOTE, AS LONG AS THEY'RE SUBMITTED IN WRITING TO THE CLERK OF THE BOARD PRIOR TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, IF THAT'S CORRECT, MISS BURTON. YEAH. SO IT IS CORRECT. I THINK WE I MEAN, WE CAN DEFINITELY DO IT THAT WAY. I THINK WE'D ORIGINALLY TALKED WITH COUNTY COUNSEL THAT ITEMS THAT WERE LIKE REQUESTS THAT WERE MADE PRIOR TO THE PUBLIC HEARING BE VOTED ON BEFORE WE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. BUT WE CAN DEFINITELY PIVOT IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'D LIKE TO DO. WELL, IT'S NOT SO MUCH A PIVOT JUST BECAUSE FOR ME, I KNEW IT WAS GOING TO BE MY DECISION, AND I THINK IT WOULD BE. I THINK IT'D BE WISE JUST TO HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC, I THINK. I MEAN, IF I IF I WAS SITTING OUT THERE AND I WAS THE PUBLIC AND A BUNCH OF DECISIONS WERE MADE BEFORE I HAD A CHANCE TO VOICE MY CONCERN. AND FOR THE EIGHT PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE THAT HAVE SPENT THE TIME, I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM THEM. BUT IT IS A SIMPLE MAJORITY VOTE 3/5 BEFORE THE PUBLIC HEARING CLOSES. CORRECT. SO SUPERVISOR LONG, WHAT WHAT WE'LL DO IS WE'RE GOING TO HEAR OUR EIGHT COMMENTERS AND THEN WE'LL DISCUSS. WELL, TO HEAR THE EIGHT COMMENTERS, YOU HAVE TO OPEN PUBLIC HEARING. CORRECT. SO ONCE PUBLIC HEARING IS OPEN, THEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE A WRITTEN NOTIFICATION TO HAVE CHANGES. AND IF WE DON'T, IT'S GOING TO REQUIRE A 4/5 VOTE. SO I WOULD NOT BE IN FAVOR OF THAT. I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF US MAKING OUR AMENDED AMENDMENTS AND, AND WHAT WE DEEM APPROPRIATE AND SIGNIFICANT IN CALLING FOR OUR VOTES BEFORE WE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. OKAY. SUPERVISOR LONG, IF I CAN CLARIFY FOR YOU TO YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT THAT YOU CAN MAKE THE MOTIONS THAT WAY, BUT THE WAY I THINK THE CHAIR IS LOOKING AT IS THAT WHAT WE'LL DO IS WE'LL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT. THE BOARD WILL HAVE DISCUSSIONS. I WILL COMPILE A LIST OF THOSE ITEMS, THOSE MOTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE AND SECONDED DURING THAT TIME. WE'RE ACTUALLY MAYBE WHAT I PROBABLY SHOULD DO IS ANYTHING THAT ANY SUPERVISOR WANTS TO TALK ABOUT AS FAR AS CHANGES TO THE RECOMMENDED BUDGET, I'LL TAKE A LIST OF THOSE. I WILL SEND THOSE TO THE CLERK OF THE BOARD SO THAT SHE HAS THEM IN WRITING, AND THEN THEY WILL BECOME A SIMPLE MAJORITY VOTE. AND THEN THE BOARD CAN MAKE MOTIONS AND THEY CAN VOTE ON THEM. AND IT WILL BE SIMPLE MAJORITY. OKAY. I DIDN'T KNOW WHO WAS GOING TO RECORD AN EMAIL. I WILL RECORD THEM AND I WILL GET UP AND I WILL GO OVER THAT LIST BEFORE WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. AND I WILL SEND THAT TO THE CLERK OF THE BOARD, AND THEN WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, BECAUSE THEN WE CAN HEAR PUBLIC INPUT. YES, I THINK SUPERVISOR LONG WAS WORRIED HE WAS GOING TO HAVE TO DO IT SINCE HE'S THE OLDEST. I THINK HE WAS WORRIED THAT HE'S GOING TO TAKE THE NOTES. ALL RIGHT. I WILL TAKE CARE OF THE NOTES. YEAH, SHE'LL TAKE CARE OF THE NOTES. ARE YOU GOOD, SUPERVISOR? YES, I AM ALL RIGHT. [04:55:02] AND SUPERVISOR HARMON LOVES THAT, BY THE WAY. HE SMILES EVERY TIME HE'S GOT ME BY TWO WEEKS, I KNOW. ALL RIGHT, WITH THAT, WE'RE GOING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. MISS BLANKENSHIP IS ALL CORRESPONDENCE ON FILE WITH THE CLERK OF THE BOARD. CHAIR. ANY CORRESPONDENCE RELATED TO THIS MATTER THAT IS ON FILE WITH THE CLERK OF THE BOARD IS AVAILABLE FOR PUBLIC INSPECTION UPON REQUEST. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND WITH THAT, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND TAKE THE SPEAKERS. PLEASE HAVE THEM LINE UP TO THE ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE ROOM AND GET IN QUEUE. ALRIGHTY. SO WITH THAT, OUR FIRST SPEAKER IS LAURIE BRIDGFORD, FOLLOWED BY THOMAS H, FOLLOWED BY KIM MORE THEN LESLIE. GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIR AND BOARD. SO I PRESUME WE'RE HAVING THREE MINUTES. CORRECT. THIS IS ONLY EIGHT. THANK YOU. LORI BRIDGFORD AND I JUST HAVE ONE MAIN FOCUS. I'M KIND OF WITH MATT PLUMMER ON HHS. I WAS HERE YESTERDAY FOR THAT, AND IT WAS JUST A ONE HOUR PERIOD. AND SO I WAS KIND OF SURPRISED HOW QUICKLY THAT WENT. BUT I ALSO UNDERSTOOD THAT, AND I WISH DOCTOR MU WOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO BE HERE YESTERDAY AS OUR PUBLIC HEALTH OFFICER, ABOUT THE CURRENT COUNTY HEALTH CRISIS THAT WAS DECLARED YESTERDAY. I SAW THE STEPS THAT WERE TAKEN BY HHS TO DROP AND DELETE SOME OF THE POSITIONS THAT WERE UNFILLED. THIS EFFICIENCY PROCESS DOES HELP WITH ACCOUNTABILITY AND HALTING ANY WASTE AND REDUNDANCY, AS YOU SAID. CHAIR CRYE TRACK WHAT MATTERS MOST FOR TODAY. IF WE LOOK AT HHS AND WE LOOK AT ANY FUTURE PANDEMICS, PANDEMICS OTHER CONTAGIOUS, WHATEVER. I THINK WE NEED TO REALLY MAKE SURE WE'VE CLEARED OUT IF WE DON'T NEED COMMUNITY EDUCATION SPECIALISTS, LIKE WHEN THEY WERE GOING TO ALL THESE VACCINE TENTS AND CLINICS. I JUST HOPE THAT THIS HAS ALL BEEN RECALCULATED. SO AGAIN, WE DON'T HAVE THAT KIND OF WASTE. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE SHARING FROM HHS AND PUBLIC HEALTH, NOT JUST FOR LIKE THE ANNUAL BUDGET OR THE SEMIANNUAL OR WHEN THEY GET REQUESTED, BUT I THINK WE NEED SOMETHING VERY MUCH ONGOING. I KNOW CHAIR CRYE, YOU DO THE RADIO SHOW AND PODCAST THING. MATT PLUMMER, YOU'VE GOT YOUR OUTPUT THAT YOU PUT. THAT'S VERY HELPFUL. SO WHAT I'D LIKE TO SAY TO PEOPLE THAT ARE STILL IN THE MEDICAL FIELD THAT HAVEN'T DECIDED THAT THEY'RE GOING TO LEAVE, RETIRE OR QUIT, MOVE, WHATEVER IS THAT WE NEED MORE HEALERS AND NOT THE DEALERS. THAT MEANS THE BIG PHARMA PUSH AND ALL THOSE THINGS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, PHANTOM GHOST BUDGETS. WE'RE LOOKING AT THE KIDS THAT HAVE BEEN HARMED, HURT FROM FETAL STAGE BABIES, YOUTH, TEENAGERS. THEY'RE THEIR WHOLE LIFE IS JUST GOING TO BE SO COMPLICATED. AND THEY WILL BE NEEDING HEALTH SERVICES ON EVERY LEVEL. SO I THINK THAT THAT'S SOMEHOW I DON'T KNOW HOW TO FACTOR IN THE FUTURE. NONE OF US HAVE A CRYSTAL BALL, BUT WE'RE BRIGHT ENOUGH PEOPLE TO FIGURE OUT IT'S GOING IN THE WRONG DIRECTION. AND IF WE'RE ALREADY IN A HEALTH CRISIS BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH PROVIDERS, THAT'S A TROUBLESOME THING. THE EMPLOYEES TEND TO STAY WHEN THEY FEEL SUPPORTED, PAID WELL, OR FAIRLY RECOGNIZED, INCLUDED, PROMOTED, CHALLENGED, INSPIRED AND APPOINTED. SOME STAY, UNFORTUNATELY, JUST TO SPIKE THEIR PENSION. AND THAT'S GOING TO PUT US IN A BANKRUPTCY SITUATION, WHICH WE KNOW IS NOT GOING TO BE FAR FROM FROM WHATEVER. SO PLEASE HEED THE ADVICE THAT WE GET FROM RON OWENS, FORMER CALIFORNIA PUBLIC HEALTH, AND JULIE THREATT OUT OF CHICO. AND YEAH, WE WITNESSED A CARNAGE. THE LIFE EXPECTANCY IS GOING TO PLUMMET. AND IT WAS A MASS CASUALTY EVENT TO GO THROUGH COVID. THANK YOU. THOMAS H. FOLLOWED BY KIM MOORE, FOLLOWED BY LESLIE, FOLLOWED BY BENJAMIN KNOWING. YES. THOMAS H. DEFINITELY THINK THE DAS DEPARTMENT NEEDS SOME HELP. I DON'T KNOW, A COUPLE OF GUYS CAME IN MONDAY AND THEY SAID THEY NEEDED MORE MONEY TO MAKE BETTER DECISIONS, I GUESS, OR WORK BETTER OR SOMETHING. BUT ANYWAY, THERE WAS A PERSON THAT WAS HIT HEAD ON ALMOST KILLED. AND THE D A FOUND THE COURAGE TO CHARGE HIM WITH A MISDEMEANOR. THEY ADMITTED THAT THEY TRIED TO KILL SOMEONE, AND THEY ADMITTED THEY WERE ON DRUGS. AND IT SEEMS LIKE ALL WE'RE DOING AS A PUBLIC IS THE. THE GUY THAT WAS HIT BECAME THE VICTIM. AND THE PERSON THAT TRIED TO KILL HIM IS IS A VICTIM OR IS A. ANYWAY, IT SWITCHED AROUND AND I THINK THAT'S BAD. SO I DON'T KNOW IF MORE MONEY WOULD HAVE CLEAR A BASIC DECISIONS, YOU KNOW? SO WHEN SOMEONE TRIES TO MURDER SOMEONE OR, YOU KNOW, VEHICULAR MANSLAUGHTER OR SOME OTHER DECISION BESIDES A MISDEMEANOR, [05:00:02] AND IT COULD HAPPEN TO ANY ONE OF YOU, ANY ONE OF YOUR KIDS OR ANYTHING ELSE. BUT IT HAPPENED HERE IN REDDING, CALIFORNIA. AND THERE'S NO PUNISHMENT BEING MADE, SO SOMEONE DOESN'T WANT TO WORK. THANK YOU. KIM MOORE, FOLLOWED BY LESLIE, FOLLOWED BY BENJAMIN NGUYEN, FOLLOWED BY TERRY POWELL. WELCOME. GOOD AFTERNOON. SUPERVISORS. COUNTY EMPLOYEES. I LIKE THIS FORMAT. WHAT YOU'VE DONE, THE WAY IT KIND OF STOPPED THE CHAOS WHILE YOU WERE ABLE TO WORK THROUGH THE BUDGET AND HEAR FROM EACH DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR. I WASN'T AWARE THAT IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO SEE A BREAKDOWN, THAT I WOULD NEED TO GO TO A WEBSITE AND JUST WITH MY SCHEDULE, IF I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A WAY, IF YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO FOLLOW THE SAME FORMAT IN THE FUTURE. BUT IF YOU COULD MAKE US AWARE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE WHERE WE CAN START LOOKING AT THE BREAKDOWN OF THE BUDGETS FOR EACH DEPARTMENT ONLINE, LIKE A WEB ADDRESS, EVEN, EVEN THE HANDOUT THAT LISTED ALL THE PAGES, YOU KNOW, THE, YOU KNOW, THE 200 AND WHATEVER PAGES OR 500 PAGES, IF YOU COULD LIST THIS, IF YOU COULD LIST THE WEB ADDRESS ON THIS HANDOUT SO THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO THE COUNTY WEBSITE ARE HAVING A HARD TIME LOOKING FOR OR FINDING WHICH ONE, WHICH LINK GIVES THIS BREAKDOWN. AND THEN THE ONLY SUGGESTION I WOULD LIKE TO ADD IS THAT I'M WONDERING FOR ALL THIS ALLEGED HOURS IT TAKES TO REVIEW VIDEO. AND I'M REALLY GLAD THAT YOU BROUGHT UP TIME STAMPS AND BEING ABLE TO GET CUT TO THE CHASE AND NOT HAVING TO WATCH THE DEPUTIES ENTIRE SHIFT. THAT WAS IMPORTANT INFORMATION. BUT I'M WONDERING IF THERE'S A WAY TO BUILD A PROGRAM WITH THE LOCAL COLLEGES THAT HAVE CRIMINAL JUSTICE PROGRAMS, THAT PART OF THE INTERNSHIP HOURS COULD BE DOING VOLUNTEER WORK LIKE THIS. REVIEWING FOOTAGE FOR THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU. LESLIE. FOLLOWED BY BENJAMIN. WAYNE. FOLLOWED BY TERRY POWELL, THEN DAVID HALLIGAN. IF I CALLED YOUR NAME, PLEASE GET IN QUEUE. HI. THANK YOU. OUR DEPARTMENTS HAVE DONE SO MUCH WORK EVERY YEAR. YOU GUYS HAVE MADE THIS MORE TRANSPARENT, WHICH I APPRECIATE. SO IT TAKES LONGER THAN IT USED TO THREE, FOUR YEARS AGO. BUT EVERY YEAR IT SEEMS TO GET BETTER. THIS WE WERE DONE EARLY SO MANY TIMES THIS WEEK. IT'S BEEN REALLY NICE. I THINK FIRST AND FOREMOST, THANK YOU. AARON BURTON AND NELDA SHORT BECAUSE WITHOUT YOU GUYS LIKE OUR COUNTY WOULD NOT BE IN A POSITIVE SITUATION THAT WE'RE IN. AND SO MANY OF OUR AREAS THAT HAVE ALWAYS BEEN VERY FISCALLY CONSERVATIVE ARE HURTING. CITY OF ANDERSON, STRUGGLING, CITY OF REDDING STRUGGLING. SO THANK YOU FOR YOU GUYS. MY CONCERNS, I HAD A FEW OF THEM WHILE I WAS GOING THROUGH, BUT THEY WERE REALLY OVERSHADOWED BY A LOT OF THE REALLY POSITIVE FEEDBACK THAT WAS GIVEN. CORKY, WHEN, YOU KNOW, YOU TOLD THE SHERIFF AS A BUSINESSMAN, YOU APPRECIATE THAT. YOU KNOW, HE USES TEAMWORK AND WORKS WITH THE TEAM TO REALLY GO OVER ALL THE NUMBERS. AND THEN, KEVIN, YOU POINTED OUT THAT LIKE, HE TOOK ACCOUNTABILITY. THERE WAS A SYSTEM THAT DIDN'T WORK. IT WAS AN EPIC FAILURE. IT CAUSED ISSUES. IT COST US MONEY. BUT HE TOOK ACCOUNTABILITY. SO MANY OF OUR DEPARTMENTS HAVE DONE REALLY HARD WORK TO TAKE ACCOUNTABILITY AND OWN THE THINGS THAT WERE WRONG, RATHER THAN JUST BLAME OTHER DEPARTMENTS AND OTHER PEOPLE FOR THEIR FAILURES AND WHY THEY'RE NOT SEEING AN INCREASE. AND WE ONLY NOW HAVE 1 OR 2 DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE STILL DOING THAT. OVERALL, THIS BUDGET HEARING HAS BEEN EXTREMELY POSITIVE BECAUSE SO MANY DEPARTMENTS AND SO MANY DEPARTMENT HEADS ARE TAKING ACCOUNTABILITY. AND IF WE COULD JUST GET THOSE 1 OR 2 TO PUT THEIR EGO ASIDE AND START TAKING ACCOUNTABILITY AND SHOWING LEADERSHIP, IT WOULD BE EASIER ONCE WE FINALLY GOT DOWN TO THE BREAKDOWN OF WHAT IS IT? AND THANK YOU, SUPERVISOR PLUMMER FOR SAYING THE SLIDES UP THERE WERE LIKE, HERE'S EVERYTHING OUR DEPARTMENT HAS AND THIS IS GOING TO COST ME THIS MUCH MONEY. THIS IS WHAT I WANT. AND LIKE YOU SAID, CHRIS, IT'S LIKE WHEN YOU HAND YOUR KID THE CATALOG AND THEY WANT EVERYTHING, RIGHT? SO WHEN YOU BROKE IT DOWN AND SAID, GIVE ME TWO THINGS THAT WOULD HELP YOUR DEPARTMENT, WE ACTUALLY GOT DOWN TO LIKE THE NICKELS AND DIMES OF THINGS. AND I THINK AS A TAXPAYER, AS SOMEBODY WITH INPUT THAT I WOULD LIKE YOU GUYS TO HEAR, BECAUSE I THINK YOU DO LISTEN THAT DOING THAT STEP UP IS REASONABLE. DOING TWO NEW EMPLOYEES IS REASONABLE. I DON'T THINK DOING MORE SUPERVISORS WHEN WE ALREADY HAVE TWO SUPERVISORS OVER EIGHT PEOPLE, AND WE ALREADY HAVE A DEPARTMENT THAT'S MAYBE NOT FUNCTIONING ON GREAT LEADERSHIP UP DOING THE LEADERSHIP LEVEL. BUT IF WE WERE UPPING THE STEPS AND ADDING THOSE TWO POSITIONS WITHOUT ADDING MORE LEADERSHIP AND ADMIN IN AYE WHAT I WOULD CONSIDER A FAILING DEPARTMENT, [05:05:03] I. THAT WOULD BE MY INPUT. THANK YOU. BENJAMIN WAYNE FOLLOWED BY TERRY POWELL, FOLLOWED BY DAVID HALLIGAN, THEN DON DUCKETT, AND THAT WOULD BE OUR LAST SPEAKER. SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THIS BUDGET, WE'RE NOT JUST REVIEWING NUMBERS. WE'RE DECIDING WHAT KIND OF COUNTY WE WANT TO LIVE IN AND WHO GETS SUPPORTED IN THE PROCESS. THAT'S WHY IT'S IMPORTANT TO CALL OUT NOT JUST WHAT'S IN THE BUDGET, BUT WHAT'S BEING LEFT OUT AND HOW THE STORY IS BEING TOLD. THIS WEEK, DIRECTOR OF SUPPORT SERVICES MONICA FUGITT EXPLAINED THE VACANCY RATES AND HOW THEY'RE DOWN, BUT NOT BECAUSE MORE PEOPLE ARE BEING HIRED. INSTEAD, THE COUNTY NOW DELETES ANY POSITION LEFT VACANT FOR MORE THAN A YEAR. THAT ARTIFICIALLY LOWERS THE VACANCY PERCENTAGE, BUT THE RESPONSIBILITIES DON'T GO AWAY. THEY'RE BEING PUSHED ON TO REMAINING STAFF WHO ARE ALREADY BEING ASKED TO DO MORE WITH LESS. YES, A FEW NEW POSITIONS HAVE BEEN ADDED, PRIMARILY PRIMARILY TO MEET LEGAL MANDATES LIKE SB 43. BUT THAT'S NOT STRATEGIC GROWTH. IT'S MINIMAL COMPLIANCE HAPPENING ALONGSIDE THE QUIET REMOVAL OF JOBS THAT ONCE SUPPORTED CORE PUBLIC SERVICES, EVEN WHEN ROLES ARE FILLED. ANOTHER CHALLENGE LOOMS. INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE IS BEING LOST. EXPERIENCED EMPLOYEES WHO UNDERSTOOD COMPLEX FUNDING STREAMS AND LONG STANDING PROGRAM INFRASTRUCTURE ARE LEAVING. MANY REPLACEMENTS ARE STILL ON PROBATION, LEAVING SYSTEMS ON THE FLY. LEARNING SYSTEMS ON THE FLY. THAT'S NOT JUST INEFFICIENT. IT DIRECTLY IMPACTS SERVICES THE PUBLIC RELIES ON. TAKE THE ELECTIONS DEPARTMENT. OVER A YEAR AGO, THE COUNTY FUMBLED, SIMPLY ACCEPTING A $1.5 MILLION IN NONPARTISAN GRANT FUNDING THAT COULD HAVE SUPPORTED OUR ELECTIONS INFRASTRUCTURE. THE ONE STAFFER WHO UNDERSTOOD THE ELECTIONS BUDGET IN DETAIL, ASSISTANT REGISTRAR JOANNA FRANCISCO, IS NO LONGER THERE. SHE WAS TERMINATED BY OUR NEWLY APPOINTED REGISTRAR OF VOTERS, CLINT CURTIS, WHO'S PREPARING TO REQUEST COUNTY FUNDS TO PURSUE EXTENSIVE ELECTION CHANGES THAT COULD BE FUNDED WITH THAT GRANT AND WHICH MAY NOT EVEN BE NECESSARY. THAT'S NOT JUST FISCAL. THAT'S NOT FISCAL DISCIPLINE. IT'S A MISSED OPPORTUNITY. DEPARTMENTS ARE BEING PRAISED FOR OPERATING WITH REDUCED STAFF AND TIGHTER BUDGETS. BUT THIS ISN'T SUSTAINABLE. THE STRESS ADDS UP, SERVICE IS SLOW DOWN AND MISTAKES MULTIPLY. MEANWHILE, GENERAL FUND SUPPORT FOR HOUSING HAS BEEN CUT ENTIRELY. SUPPORT AND CARE COSTS FOR LEGALLY MANDATED PROGRAMS SUCH AS IHSS AND FOSTER CARE ARE EXPECTED TO EXCEED 80 MILLION WITHIN A FEW YEARS, WITH NO CONCRETE PLAN TO MEET THAT DEMAND. AND THROUGH ALL OF THIS, SEIU IHSS CAREGIVERS AND UPEC GENERAL UNIT 792 CONTINUE HOLDING THIS COUNTY TOGETHER. THEY DESERVE REAL CONTRACTS AND REAL RESPECT. BUT JUST REFLECT OUR VALUES. LET'S BUILD ONE THAT VALUES STABILITY, TRANSPARENCY, AND THE PEOPLE DOING THE WORK. TERRY POWELL FOLLOWED BY DAVID HALLIGAN, FOLLOWED BY DON DUCKETT. WELCOME. THANK YOU. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS TALKED ABOUT DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS WAS A DRUG HIGHWAY INTERDICTION. AND JUST REAL QUICK. YOU'RE AWARE THAT THAT'S ADMINISTERED BY THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AND LAW ENFORCEMENT, BUT THE PROSECUTION, THE DA'S OFFICE HANDLES THE ASSET FORFEITURE, WHICH IS THE INITIAL TAKING AND ONLY GETS 10% OF THE PROCEEDS WORTH 65% GOES TO THE LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS. SO ALL THE WORK FALLS ON THE DA'S OFFICE AS FAR AS ACTUALLY COMING THROUGH WITH THAT MONEY. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IN TALKING ABOUT PAY FOR ATTORNEYS, YOU HIRED JOSEPH LARMOR FOR $240,000 A YEAR PLUS A $20,000 SIGNING BONUS, $5,000 CAR ALLOWANCE. HE'D BEEN A COUNTY COUNSEL FOR FIVE MONTHS, NINE YEARS EXPERIENCE AS AN ATTORNEY, WENT TO CALIFORNIA NORTHERN SCHOOL OF LAW, WHICH IS NOT AN ABA ACCREDITED SCHOOL. BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE BOARD TALKED ABOUT WHEN HIRING PATRICK JONES STATED THE COUNTY HAD TO INCREASE COUNTY COUNSEL PAY TO COMPETE WITH SALARIES OFFERED BY OTHER COUNTIES AND THOSE IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR, WHICH I AGREE WITH. CHAIRMAN CRYE STATED, HIRING OF LARMOR IS A STEAL FOR THE COUNTY BECAUSE IT IS ACQUIRING A REMARKABLE TALENT FOR A SALARY THAT NO OTHER LAWYER, NOT EVEN A RECENT LAW SCHOOL GRADUATE, WOULD ACCEPT. THOSE WERE YOUR WORDS. THOSE WERE YOUR WORDS, $240,000 A YEAR. BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT YOU PAY OUR COUNTY ATTORNEYS. IT'S FAR BELOW THAT. AND LOOK AT THE ATTORNEYS IN OUR OFFICE, THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO WENT TO GEORGETOWN RANKED 14TH IN THE COUNTRY. BOSTON UNIVERSITY RANKED 22ND IN THE COUNTRY. UNIVERSITY OF GEORGIA 22ND. BOSTON COLLEGE 25TH. PEPPERDINE 55TH. LOYOLA MARYMOUNT 71. CHICAGO-KENT 107. MCGEORGE 163RD. WE HAVE THREE ATTORNEYS THERE AND CAL WESTERN RANKED 178. AND THAT'S IN THE COUNTRY. THOSE ARE THE QUALITY OF ATTORNEYS THAT YOU HAVE IN THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. BUT THEY'RE NOT PAID. WHAT YOU WOULD SAY WOULD BE WHAT WOULD BE A STEAL. AND WE HAVE MANY ATTORNEYS WITH WITH MULTIPLE YEARS OF EXPERIENCE. [05:10:04] AND I REMEMBER WHEN THIS BOARD TOLD THE COMMUNITY THE REASONS FOR PAYING FOR THE RECRUITED COUNTY COUNSEL. AND AS AN ATTORNEY, I AGREED WITH THE WORDS THAT CHAIR CRYE SAID IN HIS PRIOR STATEMENTS ABOUT THE TROUBLE THE BOARD HAD IN RECRUITING QUALIFIED ATTORNEYS. I'VE LISTENED TO THIS BOARD TALK ABOUT WHAT ARE THE ANSWERS TO RECRUITING ATTORNEYS, AND YOU ALL KNOW THE ANSWER. IT'S NOT TEAMWORK. IT'S NOT TEAM BUILDING. IT'S NOT. IT IS MONEY. YOU NEED TO PAY WHAT THE MARKET VALUES OF THOSE POSITIONS, AND I WOULD ASK THE BOARD TO ADOPT THE SPIRIT OF WHAT KEVIN CRYE STATED, AND PAY ALL QUALIFIED ATTORNEYS FOR A SALARY THAT NO OTHER LAWYER, NOT EVEN A RECENT LAW SCHOOL GRADUATE, WOULD ACCEPT. THANK YOU. DAVID. FOLLOWED BY DON DUCKETT. GOOD AFTERNOON BOARD. MR. CRYE, THANK YOU FOR HOLDING THESE MEETINGS. THEY'VE BEEN VERY EDUCATIONAL. I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE. I KNOW EVERYBODY ELSE DOES TOO. I CAME TO THE MEETING THIS MORNING AND I'VE BEEN WATCHING THEM THE LAST TWO DAYS. CAME THIS MORNING AND I LEFT, WENT HOME AND HAD SOME LUNCH. I WAS WATCHING DA BRIDGETT PRESENT AND MY TEMPERATURE WAS GOING UP. JUST THE THINGS THAT SHE WAS ASKING FOR, THE SITUATION THAT THAT DEPARTMENT'S IN. I GET A TEXT FROM SOMEBODY THAT SAYS, DON'T GO BACK DOWN THERE. YOU'RE NOT GOING TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE. IT REALLY UPSET ME. GOT IN MY CAR AND I CAME DOWN HERE. ALL OF YOU GENTLEMEN UP HERE ARE IN BUSINESS. YOU KNOW ALL ABOUT THE FOUR QUADRANTS. THE EISENHOWER MATRIX ONE. NOT URGENT, NOT IMPORTANT. TWO URGENT. NOT IMPORTANT. THREE IMPORTANT, BUT NOT URGENT. FOUR URGENT AND IMPORTANT. AND THAT'S WHERE WE FIND OURSELVES IN RIGHT NOW WITH THE DA. URGENT AND IMPORTANT. SHE SPOKE ON THE BACKLOG OF CASES MANY, MANY MONTHS BEHIND. SHERIFFS CAMERAS COMING. CHP CAMERAS COMING LONGER. TIME TO REACH OUT TO THE VICTIMS. THAT SHOULD NEVER HAPPEN. PROPOSITION 36 IN NOVEMBER. WE WERE EXPECTING SOME FUNDING FROM THE STATE. DON'T THINK WE'RE GETTING IT. SHE SPOKE AT THE APRIL LAW ENFORCEMENT MEETINGS, PUBLIC SAFETY, AND SAID, I'VE CHARGED 77 PEOPLE WITH FELONIES. THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN MISDEMEANORS. THAT'S BACKING UP THE JAIL FOR SHERIFF IF JOHNSON. IT'S BACKING UP MISS BRIDGET'S WORK AND HER PEOPLE. SHE TALKED ABOUT TECH CATCH UP. PAST CASES COMING BACK 20, 30, 40 YEARS. THE WORKLOAD IS NOT EVEN CLOSE. I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE SEEING IT IN THE DOCUMENTS. IT'S NOT EVEN CLOSE. IT'S ABOUT THE BATTING AVERAGE. IT'S ABOUT THE BATTING AVERAGE. AND AS KEVIN LIKES TO SAY, THE D A IS CRUSHING IT RIGHT NOW COMPARED TO SOME OF THE OTHER COUNTIES. MR. PLUMMER, YOU TALKED ABOUT A WISH LIST. I KNOW IT WAS A LIST QUITE EXTENSIVE, BUT REALLY IT'S A REALITY LIST. IT'S KIND OF A REALITY LIST WHEN SHE SHOWS OTHER COUNTIES. BUT WHEN WE SHOW COUNTIES, WHEN IT'S TIME TO GIVE RAISES TO THIS BOARD, LET'S PUT THEM UP. LET'S SEE WHAT THE OTHER COUNTIES ARE PAYING. YOU GUYS GOT YOUR 60% RAISES. LET'S TAKE CARE OF THIS DEPARTMENT. D AYE BRIDGETT SPOKE AT THE START THAT SHE WANTS THE DEPARTMENT TO SUPPORT LAW ENFORCEMENT AND HOLD CRIMINALS ACCOUNTABLE. WE THE PEOPLE, WE THE PEOPLE ARE HOLDING YOU ACCOUNTABLE. LET'S GET OUT OF THE BOTTLENECK AND LET'S GET OUT OF URGENT, IMPORTANT AND MAKE IT IMPORTANT. IMPORTANT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. DON DUCKETT AND THAT'S OUR LAST SPEAKER. GOOD AFTERNOON. BOARD. I MUST SAY I'M SLIGHTLY ENCOURAGED TO HEAR THAT THE BOARD IS LEANING TOWARDS A COMPROMISE WITH THE DAS REQUEST. I'M A BIG FAN OF THE TV SHOW AMERICAN PICKERS, AND AS YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY'RE TRYING TO STRIKE A BARGAIN ON AN ANTIQUE, THEY ALWAYS START HIGH. BUT THEN THEY SOME WHERE IN THE MIDDLE END UP IN A HANDSHAKE. SO I'M REALLY ENCOURAGED ABOUT THAT BECAUSE THE VOTERS OF SHASTA COUNTY SENT SOME STRONG MESSAGES IN THE LAST TWO ELECTIONS AND ONE OF THE MESSAGES THAT THE VOTERS SENT. AND I'M GLAD THAT YOU'RE SORT OF BEGINNING TO LISTEN. ONE OF THE MESSAGES THAT THE VOTERS SENT WAS THAT ELECTIONS ARE NOT A BIG PRIORITY TO SHASTA COUNTY VOTERS. AND, AND ELECTION REFORM. AND THAT'S EVIDENCED BY THE FACT THAT PATRICK JONES WAS OVERWHELMINGLY DEFEATED AND LAURA HOBBS WAS ALSO REJECTED. THE VOTERS ALSO SENT A MESSAGE OF DISTRUST ON THIS BOARD WHEN THEY VOTED DOWN MEASURES P AND Q. NOW, I HAPPEN TO THINK THAT BOTH OF THOSE MEASURES WERE GOOD IDEAS, BUT IT'S JUST A SYMBOL OF THE LACK OF TRUST. [05:15:02] SO I THINK THAT TODAY YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BUILD BACK SOME OF THAT TRUST WITH THE SILENT MAJORITY, MODERATE REPUBLICANS LIKE MYSELF. WE'RE INTERESTED IN QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUES AND PUBLIC SAFETY. AND AS THE DA SAID, YOUR PRIMARY RESPONSIBILITY UNDER THE CONSTITUTION IS PUBLIC SAFETY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND CHAIR, THAT WAS OUR LAST SPEAKER. ALL RIGHT. SO WE ARE STILL IN THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION. SO FOR BOARD DISCUSSION SUPERVISOR LONG DO YOU WANT TO START US OFF WITH? YOU'RE USUALLY IN QUEUE FIRST, SO I JUST WENT TO YOU. DO YOU WANT TO START OFF WITH YOUR FIRST? WELL, YOU AND MATT JUST, YOU KNOW, I JUST WHATEVER. SO BOTH OF YOU GUYS LIGHT UP SO WELL, ARE WE GOING TO ANY ADJUSTMENT WE WANT TO MAKE BEFORE THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED IS 3/5. SO AS MUCH AS I'D LIKE TO COMMENT ON SOME OF THE BECAUSE AARON'S GOING TO MAKE THE NOTE AND STEPHANIE AARON'S GOING TO WRITE THEM ALL DOWN. OKAY. I UNDERSTAND BUDGET CONSTRAINTS, BUT I THINK LAW ENFORCEMENT AND PUBLIC SAFETY SHOULD BE, AND IT MUST BE OUR MOST IMPORTANT PRIORITY. AND OUR DISTRICT ATTORNEY AND, AND THEY'RE FALLING BEHIND IN THEIR LEVEL OF RESOURCES. AND WHEN WE HAVE BODY CAMERAS AND THINGS WITH DIFFERENT ALLIED AGENCIES INCREASING WORKLOAD AND ALL THE LEGISLATIVE CHANGES THAT ARE INCREASING WORKLOAD, AND WE DON'T INCREASE THE STAFF, THEN WE END UP HAVING OUR ATTORNEYS DOING SECRETARIAL DUTIES. SO I AM GOING TO REQUEST THAT WITH THE INCREASED WITH THE INCREASED RESPONSIBILITIES OF THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY, I THINK WE GET A GREAT BANG FOR OUR BUCK, SO TO SPEAK, WHEN WE HIRE A COUPLE EXTRA LEGAL SECRETARIES BECAUSE WE TAKE THE LOAD OFF THE ATTORNEYS, THAT CAN THEN FOCUS ON GETTING TIMELY FILINGS AND EVERYTHING WE HEARD TODAY. AND I THINK THAT IS REALLY SIGNIFICANT AND REALLY IMPORTANT. AND IF THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE IS NOT EFFICIENT AND THEY ARE UNDERSTAFFED, WE GET ALL KINDS OF PROBLEMS WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT, AND THAT'S DIS DISHONORING OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT, VETERANS AND OUR PEOPLE THAT ARE OUT THERE WORKING HARD TO BRING CASES TO JUSTICE AND THEN NOT GETTING TIMELY FILINGS. SO I THINK PERSONALLY, THAT WE'VE HEARD AMPLE DISCUSSION, AND I CURRENTLY AGREE THAT THE ONE AND TWO CLASSIFICATION IS OF UTMOST IMPORTANCE. SO AND I WOULD, I WOULD REQUEST THAT WE ADD THE TWO POSITIONS. SO I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE THE BOARD AMEND THIS BUDGET AND ADD TWO NEW LEGAL SECRETARIES AND THAT WE GO FOR A CLASSIFICATION OF ONE AND TWO, LEAVING THE ONE CURRENTLY WHERE THEY ARE RIGHT NOW. AND THEN THE TWO WOULD BE A STEP ABOVE THAT. SO THAT'S MY MOTION. CAN I INTERJECT REAL QUICK? I THINK OUR OUR BEST KIND OF AVENUE FOR THIS, SINCE WE'RE SUBMITTING THE REQUEST IN WRITING, IS JUST FOR EACH SUPERVISOR TO MAKE THEIR REQUEST WITHOUT MAKING A MOTION. AND THEN WE'LL SEND ALL OF THOSE REQUESTS TO THE CLERK OF THE BOARD, AND THEN WE CAN HEAR EACH ONE OF THOSE, AND THE SUPERVISOR CAN THEN MAKE A MOTION AT THAT TIME, AND WE CAN TAKE A VOTE AT THAT TIME. OKAY. OKAY. SO THERE'S NO SECOND. OKAY. I WITHDRAW MY MOTION FOR NOW. WHAT DO YOU HAVE? DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER ONES THAT YOU WANT TO PUT ON? NO, THAT'S THAT'S I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE WAY I LOOK AT THIS, WE HAD TWO APPEALS AND WE HAD ALL OTHER DEPARTMENTS IN AGREEMENT WITH THE CAO RECOMMENDATION. SO I'M NOT GOING TO TWEAK THOSE AND PLAY LIKE I'M THE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT. IF THEY CAME TO AN AGREEMENT, I DON'T WANT TO UPSET THAT. AND THE ONLY TWO THAT WERE APPEALED WERE THE ROVS APPEAL, WHICH WAS FILED BY MR. TOLLER AT A PRIOR OCCASION, AND WE'VE ALREADY HEARD FROM MR. CURTIS THAT THE TABULATORS AND SOME OF THE THINGS THE 20 TABULATORS AND THINGS THAT HE WANTS IN HIS BUDGET DOWN THE ROAD WILL COME IN THE FUTURE IN THE FORM OF BUDGET AMENDMENTS. SO THAT ONE CLOSED OUT FOR ME. AND SO WE WERE LEFT WITH THE LAST ONE, WHICH WAS THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY. SO THAT'S THE ONLY ONE I'M ACTING ON WITH MY THOUGHTS. OKAY. YOU HAD ORIGINALLY SAID THE COUNTY COUNSEL'S OFFICE TOO. WELL, THE COUNTY THE COUNTY COUNSEL OFFICE IS INCORPORATED INTO PUBLIC DEFENDER, COUNTY COUNSEL, DISTRICT ATTORNEY. AND THOSE ARE ALL PART OF THE RECLASSIFICATION OF ONE AND TWO BECAUSE IT INVOLVES ALL OF THOSE DEPARTMENTS. YOU ARE STILL REQUESTING THAT TO BE ON THE LIST, RIGHT? WHICH PART? YOU'RE STILL REQUESTING IT TO BE ON THE LIST? YEAH. I MEAN, YOU CANCEL YOUR MOTION, BUT YOU'RE. OH YEAH. SURE, SURE. BUT WE'LL TAKE A VOTE LATER AFTER WE GET SUPERVISOR PLUMMER. [05:20:02] WE'RE DOING THE BOOKENDS. YEAH, WE'RE JUST DOING THE BOOKENDS. OKAY. SO AS I SAID ON TUESDAY, REQUEST THAT WE REMOVE THE LINE ITEM FOR THE BALLOT DUPLICATION SOFTWARE UNDER THE ELECTIONS OFFICE BUDGET UNIT AND THEN WITHIN THE CIO'S OFFICE. THE REQUEST IS THAT WE CHANGE FROM A FULL TIME PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICER TO A HALF TIME, AND THAT WE ALLOCATE THE REMAINING AMOUNT OF THAT CURRENT FULL AMOUNT TO PROFESSIONAL SERVICES FOR GRANT WRITING. BECAUSE AT THIS TIME, I'VE LEARNED THAT WE DON'T HAVE A GRANT WRITER CLASSIFICATION, SO WE COULD DO IT AS A COMMUNITY EDUCATION SPECIALIST, BUT THAT FEELS A LITTLE OFF. SO IT MIGHT NEED TO COME BACK AT SOME POINT. BUT AT THIS POINT, WE COULD CONTRACT OUT FOR GRANT WRITING SUPPORT TO BRING IN MORE REVENUE THAT WOULD PAY FOR THAT POSITION, BUT IT WOULD BE NO ADDITIONAL COST TO THE COUNTY. DO YOU? OKAY. GO AHEAD. AND THEN I HAD MENTIONED AN INTEREST IN INVESTING ADDITIONAL MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES X DOLLARS IN SUICIDE PREVENTION. I'VE BEEN TALKING WITH CHRISTY COLEMAN ABOUT THAT, AND THERE ARE SOME LIMITATIONS ON THAT. SO I DON'T KNOW. YEAH. CAN I CALL CHRISTY UP? BRING CHRISTY UP. THAT'S FINE, BECAUSE I HAD A QUESTION FOR HER TOO ABOUT THE GRANT WRITER COMPONENT, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT WAS ONE OF THE CAVEATS. HELLO. HI. THANKS, CHRISTY. I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT THIS, BUT JUST TO KIND OF UPDATE THE BOARD ON THE PROCESS INVOLVED FOR CHANGING THOSE AND THE TIMELINE, WHICH IS CREATING SOME CONSTRAINTS AND KIND OF OUR ALTERNATIVE THAT WE ALIGNED AROUND THIS MORNING. YEAH. SO IF WE WANT TO DO MORE FUNDING TO SUICIDE PREVENTION, WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH A PROCESS. SO WE HAVE TO FIRST FIGURE OUT WHAT WE WANT TO DO WITH THE EXTRA FUNDING, HOW MUCH WE WANT TO SPEND, TAKE IT TO THE MAHATAB BOARD, THE MENTAL HEALTH BOARD. ONCE THEY APPROVE IT, WE GET IT TO THE STATE. ONCE THE STATE APPROVES IT, WE BRING IT TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS FOR APPROVAL. SO IT'S ABOUT A SIX MONTH PROCESS. AND WITH THE PREVENTION DOLLARS FOR SUICIDE PREVENTION, THEY ARE GOING AWAY JUNE 30TH OF 26. SO BY THE TIME WE GET THROUGH THIS PROCESS, IT'LL BE JANUARY SOMETIME. SO WE HAVE SIX MONTH SIX MONTHS OF A PROGRAM. GREAT. YEAH. SO WE WHILE WE HAD SOME EMERGING IDEAS, IT SEEMS LIKE THAT AS A FUNDING SOURCE IS NOT GOING TO BE AN OPTION AT THIS TIME. AT LEAST TO TRY TO CRAM IT IN IN TERMS OF SECURING A CONTRACT, ONCE WE GOT APPROVAL FROM THE STATE, ASSUMING WE ACTUALLY WOULD GET THAT. YEAH. SO WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT SOME OTHER IDEAS FOR JUST AMPLIFYING KIND OF EXISTING ACTIVITIES. SO NO BUDGETARY CHANGES AT THIS POINT. YEAH. SO I DID TALK TO THE TEAM THIS MORNING AFTER WE MET, AND WE COULD DO AN EXTRA ABOUT $50,000 IN FUND BALANCE FOR MSSA IF IT'S APPROVED BY ALL PARTIES IN SIX MONTHS FOR ADDITIONAL RESOURCE MATERIALS FOR SUICIDE PREVENTION PROGRAMS, ADDITIONAL TRAINING FOR BEHAVIORAL HEALTH STAFF, AS WELL AS DOCTORS IN OUR COMMUNITY FOR SUICIDE PREVENTION ASSESSMENT, WHICH KIND OF GOES ALONG LIKE THE SCREENING TOOL TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE SCREENING FOR SUICIDE RISK, AS WELL AS MORE SOURCES FOR LOCK BOXES FOR FIREARM SAFETY. SO IF WE DID ABOUT $30,000 FOR TRAINING, $15,000 FOR MORE LOCK BOXES TO MAKE SURE FIREARMS ARE SECURE, THAT WAY, IT GIVES THEM THAT EXTRA TIME TO KIND OF THINK ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE DOING, AS WELL AS $5,000 FOR RESOURCES. IT'S ABOUT $50,000 THAT WE THINK WE COULD POTENTIALLY SPEND IN A SIX MONTH TIME PERIOD IF ALL PARTIES APPROVE THE PLAN. DOES THAT FILL SUPERVISOR PLUMMER LIKE 50 GRAND? I MEAN, DOES THAT FEEL LIKE I MEAN, I THINK WE SHOULD ALLOCATE THOSE PREVENTION RELATED DOLLARS ANYWAY BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE CHANGING AND SHIFTING TOWARDS THE STATE. SO I THINK, YEAH, I WILL SAY ALL OF OUR PREVENTION DOLLARS ARE ALLOCATED. SO IT WOULD JUST BE OUT OF OUR FUND BALANCE THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY SPENDING THE MONEY. AND SO IF ALL PARTIES DO AGREE, WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST IS WE WOULD BRING BACK A BUDGET AMENDMENT AT THAT TIME WITH THE APPROVAL FROM THE BOARD AT THE SAME TIME. OKAY. YEAH. SO IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S NO ACTION AT THIS POINT, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN CONTINUE TO DISCUSS. YEAH. CONTINUE DISCUSSIONS. THANK YOU. CAN YOU YOU HAD MENTIONED ABOUT THE GRANT WRITER. SO COULD YOU EXPLAIN, CHRISTY, YOUR THOUGHTS? BECAUSE I KNOW THAT IF I REMEMBER RIGHT, I THINK IT WAS IN 23 MY MIND SUPERVISOR. KELSTROM FIRST YEAR YOU GUYS HAD ONE AND I, IF I REMEMBER RIGHT, IT CREATED MORE WORK. THAT'S BETTER TO DO IT INTERNALLY. IS THAT YEAH, WE ACTUALLY HAD TWO. SO WE HAD TWO CONTRACTS FOR GRANT WRITERS AND THEY ACTUALLY NEVER GOT USED BECAUSE WHAT WE FOUND IS THAT OUR EXPERTS WHO ARE ACTUALLY RUNNING THE PROGRAMS HAD THE KNOWLEDGE AND THE EXPERTISE THAT NEEDED TO GO INTO THE GRANT TO ACTUALLY HAVE THE GRANTS AWARDED SUCCESSFULLY. [05:25:01] AND SO WE FOUND IT MORE MORE COST SAVINGS AND MORE EFFICIENT FOR US TO ACTUALLY DO IT INTERNALLY THAN WORKING WITH THE GRANT WRITER. IT TOOK US A LOT OF TIME AND A LOT OF HOURS TO TRY TO WORK WITH THE GRANT WRITER TO GET GRANTS WRITTEN. AND THEY NEVER ACTUALLY PRODUCED ANY AMOUNT OF MONEY. AND I THINK IN TALKING WITH CEO RICKERT THAT AS, AS WE KIND OF DISCUSSED FURTHER, IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S PROBABLY LESS FOR HRSA, WHERE THERE IS A LOT OF SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTISE AND MORE FOR THE, FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM, THE GENERAL FUND DEPARTMENTS. I KNOW I'VE TALKED WITH PUBLIC WORKS ABOUT GRANTS AND LIKE, OH, SOMETIMES WE HAVE AN ENGINEER WHO CAN SPEND A LITTLE TIME ON IT. BUT I THINK IF WE, IF WE, WE, IF WE THOUGHT ABOUT PUBLIC WORKS, RESOURCE MANAGEMENT. AND SOME OF THESE OTHER GENERAL FUND DEPARTMENTS THAT HAVING SOMEONE WHO'S OUT THERE SCANNING AND, AND SEEING, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT'S COMING THROUGH AND THEN COULD RELY ON. THE EXPERTISE WOULD LIKELY STILL BE VALUABLE IN THOSE DEPARTMENTS, EVEN IF IT'S LESS RELEVANT TO THE SPECIFIC EXPERTISE OF HHS. OKAY. YEAH, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY. THANK YOU. ANY OTHERS? OKAY. SUPERVISOR. HARMON. I'M GOING TO AGREE AND GO ALONG WITH, ALTHOUGH IT'S NOT BEEN MENTIONED YET WITH WHAT SUPERVISOR LONG'S SAID. SUPERVISOR. KELSTROM. OKAY. SO I HAD ONE QUESTION AND THIS MIGHT BE FOR AARON OR CEO RICKERT. I KNOW WE'RE TALKING. I BROUGHT IT UP RECENTLY ABOUT ALL THE COMMISSIONS. WE HAVE ROUGHLY 80 TO 87 COMMISSIONS, COMMITTEES, GROUPS, ETC.. WHAT'S THAT? BOARDS. YEAH. AND ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT HAS BEEN RAISED A FEW TIMES IS SOME OF THE I KNOW THE THE COMMISSION ON AGING, WHICH IS ON THE AGENDA THIS NEXT ONE I'VE WORKED WITH THEM FOR, I DON'T KNOW, 6 OR 8 MONTHS, AND THEY'RE REQUESTING SOME FUNDING, WHICH I'M NOT NECESSARILY READY FOR AT THIS POINT. BUT WHERE ARE WE IN TERMS OF THOSE? AND HISTORICALLY DOES MONEY GET. I KNOW THE ELECTION COMMISSION IS NEW, BUT SOME OF THOSE OTHERS. IS THERE AN EFFORT TO, TO STREAMLINE THOSE DOWN? BECAUSE SOME OF THOSE I'VE LEARNED PROBABLY COULD USE SOME FUNDING TO ACTUALLY MAKE THE PROCESS BETTER FOR WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO OR DELIVER TO THE, THE PEOPLE. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE'RE YOU GUYS ARE LOOKING AT EACH OTHER. YEAH. I MEAN, I'M LOOKING, I'M LOOKING AT I'M LOOKING AT RICKERT BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THERE HAS BEEN AN EFFORT TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE COMMISSIONS AND DETERMINE WHICH ONES WE DO. WE ARE AND ARE NOT REQUIRED BY LAW OR STATUTE TO ACTUALLY HAVE YOU WANT TO WEIGH IN? YEAH. I MEAN, BUT I MEAN, I WILL SAY THE MAJORITY OF THEM DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE A COUNTY COST ASSOCIATED WITH THEM. THEY MEET OFF SITE. THEY DON'T HAVE WE DON'T SUPPLY A CLERK TO THEM, WE DON'T SUPPLY AN ATTORNEY TO THEM, WHICH WAS KIND OF THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE ELECTIONS COMMISSION AND THAT WE WERE SUPPLYING ATTORNEY. WE WERE SUPPLYING STAFF. THEY WERE USING OUR BOARD CHAMBERS. WE WERE SCHEDULING THEIR MEETINGS, POSTING THEIR AGENDAS. WE DON'T PROVIDE THAT SAME LEVEL OF SERVICE FOR ALL OF THE DIFFERENT BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, ABOUT 12 OF THEM. CORRECT. IS THAT IS THAT IS THAT HOW MANY WE PROVIDE THOSE TO? YEAH, I WOULD SAY SOMEWHERE, SOMEWHERE AROUND 8 TO 10. 8 TO 10. OKAY. CEO RICKERT YES, THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN CRYE ONE OF THE THINGS I WANTED TO DO WITH STAFF WAS GO THROUGH ALL THE COMMISSIONS THAT WE DO HAVE AND COME BACK AND GIVE A REPORT TO THE BOARD, WHAT COMMISSIONS THERE ARE, WHAT THEIR FUNCTIONS ARE, WHAT POTENTIAL COSTS ARE, AND THEN THE BOARD CAN CONSIDER THEM IN WHOLE. THAT'S A PROJECT THAT'S GOING TO TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME, PROBABLY, I'M ASSUMING, SOMETIME IN THE FALL. AND I CAN CONFIRM STAFF HAVE ALREADY STARTED WORKING ON THAT. OKAY. OKAY. I THOUGHT YOU WERE GOING TO SAY SOMETHING THERE AND I JUST SAW YOU GOING THROUGH THAT. I WAS NOT. I WAS LOOKING. ALL RIGHT. I THINK I THINK I'M GOOD THEN WITH YOU, MISS SHERIFF, COULD YOU COME UP HERE IF YOU GET A SECOND OR. I SHOULDN'T SAY IF YOU GET A SECOND, IF YOU COULD COME UP. SO I WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, AND I THINK AT THIS POINT, JUST BASED ON OUR OUR BUDGET, BUT I WOULD LIKE THIS BOARD TO UNDERSTAND A LITTLE BIT MORE. AND THIS IS GOING TO BE EXTREMELY NOT BORING. BUT FOR SUPERVISOR LONG, WHO UNDERSTANDS THE DH PROGRAM DEEPLY, JUST A LITTLE BIT FOR SUPERVISORS, HARMON AND PLUMMER ABOUT IT. AND I'M NOT GOING TO MAKE A MOTION OR ANY KIND OF AMENDMENT FOR THE RD PROGRAM, BUT I WANT TO LAY THAT GROUNDWORK. SO THIS IS SOMETHING MAYBE WHEN WE DO A BUDGET AMENDMENT AT MID-YEAR, WE COULD BE WORKING TOWARDS THAT, BECAUSE I REALLY STILL FEEL STRONGLY ABOUT [05:30:04] THAT PROGRAM. I KNOW YOU AND UNDERSHERIFF RANDALL PUT A LOT OF TIME INTO IT. SO WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO BUILD ON WHAT WE DID BEFORE LUNCH A LITTLE BIT FOR THEM SO THEY COULD AND THE PUBLIC COULD UNDERSTAND THAT. SO IN HAIDA AREAS, HIGH INTENSITY DRUG TRAFFICKING AREAS, THE STATE AND THE FEDS CONCENTRATE EFFORTS TOWARDS DRUG INTERDICTION. AND THE GOAL AND THE PRIMARY FOCUS IS EXACTLY THAT IS TO SET UP A HIGHLY TRAINED INDIVIDUALS IN SPECIALLY MARKED AND UNMARKED VEHICLES AND CANINES TO INTERDICT TRAFFIC DRUG TRAFFICKING THAT'S GOING ON ON MAJOR CORRIDORS OR IN THESE DEFINED AREAS. WE ARE AYE HAVEN'T BEEN ACTIVE IN QUITE A WHILE IN THIS REGION. AND SO THAT PART, WE ALREADY HAVE A DESIGNATION, WHAT WE DON'T HAVE ANYMORE. AND ONCE UPON A TIME, THIS WAS PRIOR TO ME BECOMING SHERIFF. THEY HAD A DRUG INTERDICTION D E UNIT HERE OPERATING. AND THAT UNIT WAS VERY SUCCESSFUL IN TAKING OFF DRUGS THAT WERE COMING BOTH INTO THE GENERALLY REDDING AREA SHASTA COUNTY, AND ALSO MAKING ITS WAY THROUGH GOING UPSTATE TO OTHER AREAS PRIMARILY CARTEL DRIVEN AND CARTEL MANAGED THESE, THESE LOADS OF DRUGS ARE A GREAT IN QUANTITY AND DISTRIBUTED THROUGHOUT THE WEST COAST. AND BY HAVING THESE SPECIALIZED UNITS AND INTERDICTING THESE LOADS OF DRUGS, WE PUT A VAST IMPACT ON THE AREAS THAT GET THE DISTRIBUTIONS. NOW, DOES IT STOP IT ALL TOGETHER? NO, IT NEVER DOES. BUT IT DEFINITELY CAN MAKE A CHANGE IN YOUR REGION, AS WE WERE TALKING ABOUT EARLIER. IT CAN REALLY DETER THE FOCUS ON THOSE DESTINY OF THOSE DRUGS. SO IF THEY KNOW THAT THEN THEY WILL KNOW THAT AFTER A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME THAT WE ARE HEAVILY CONCENTRATED IN THIS AREA AND PICKING OFF THEIR PRODUCT, SO THEY WILL FIND ALTERNATIVE ROUTES AND OR NOT TARGET THIS AREA AS MUCH BECAUSE THEIR LOSSES BECOME SO GREAT. AND SO THAT IS THE VALUE IN DOING THESE PROGRAMS. THERE'S ANOTHER PART OF THAT, TOO, IS WHEN THESE INTERDICTIONS ARE DONE, THERE'S INTENSE INVESTIGATIONS THAT GO ON AND IDENTIFY OUR HIGH PROFILE DEALERS AND DISTRIBUTORS IN THESE AREAS, AND THEY RELOCATE AS WELL. AND ALL THAT IS A BIG POSITIVE FOR YOUR, YOUR COMMUNITY, FOR YOUR REGION, AND FOR THE FIGHT AGAINST DRUGS IN TOTAL. AND NOW, AS WE KNOW, FENTANYL, A LARGE LOAD OF FENTANYL IS DISTRIBUTED ON A MUCH BROADER BASIS BECAUSE IT'S SUCH SMALL DOSES THAT ARE KILLING PEOPLE. THOSE THOSE LOADS ARE MIXED WITH ALL KINDS OF THINGS, WITH LOADS OF COCAINE AND METHAMPHETAMINE AND EVERYTHING ELSE OUT THERE. SO YOU EVENTUALLY MAKE A DENT IN WHAT'S GOING ON IN YOUR COMMUNITY. I'M A TRUE BELIEVER IN IT. I HAVE BEEN HOPING TO GET THIS PROGRAM UP. PROBABLY ABOUT THE SAME TIME THAT WE STARTED THE MET UNIT. IT WAS A HOPEFUL. REINTRODUCTION. AND ONCE WE GOT THE STAFFING AND THE TRAINING AND EVERYTHING TO GET THIS PROGRAM GOING. AGAIN I HOPED TO PUT ON ANOTHER BURDEN ON THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY WITH MORE DRUG TYPE CASES. AND AGAIN, ONCE THAT YOU KNOW, PROP 36 PASSED AND WE GOT SOME DRUGS BACK ON THE HIT LIST OF FELONIES. THESE WOULD BE FELONIES ANYWAYS, FOR SUCH LARGE LOADS THAT THEY PICK OFF AND, AND THERE'S NO ARGUING. THE AMOUNT IS FOR DISTRIBUTION AND FOR SALES. SO THE CASES ARE REALLY GOOD. THE TRAINING IS VERY INTENSE AND THE PROGRAM IS VERY ELABORATE. BUT WE'RE AT A POINT WHERE WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH IT. AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT. AND I THINK YOU WOULD SEE THAT IT YIELDS GREAT RESULTS FOR THIS AREA. YES. AND I APPRECIATE THAT. SUPERVISOR. KELSTROM, AND THE DEPARTMENT GETS TO KEEP A PORTION OF THE CONFISCATED FUNDS IF THEY. AND THEY USUALLY COME ACROSS MONEY WHEN THEY COME. YEAH. SO YES. SUPERVISOR THE. THERE WILL BE THEY WILL COME ACROSS LOADS OF MONEY HERE AND THERE TOO. THAT'S DEFINITELY NOT THE TARGET AND DEFINITELY NOT THE OBJECTIVE. BUT AS WE DO, THAT'S ASSET FORFEITURE. AND NOT ONLY THE, THE OTHER ASSETS THAT COME WITH IT, [05:35:01] SOME VEHICLES, SOME OTHER ASSETS TOO. AND YOU CAN'T USE THAT TO FUND THE PROGRAM AND TO DO SALARIES AND THIS AND THAT, BUT YOU CAN USE THAT FOR EQUIPMENT AND SOME OF THE TRAINING, LIKE CANINES AND THE, THE VEHICLES AND STUFF THAT WE USE. SO THERE IS A SIDE BENEFIT TO THAT TOO. DEFINITELY NOT THE FOCUS, BUT IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. YOU'RE GOING TO COME ACROSS THOSE ASSETS. AND YES, WE WOULD BE SEIZING THOSE ASSETS AS WELL. AND THAT'S WHAT THAT'S WHAT CHAIRMAN CRYE WAS ALLUDING TO EARLIER WITH. IT ALMOST PAYS FOR ITSELF, EVEN THOUGH IT'S DOESN'T PAY FOR ITSELF BECAUSE IT CAN'T GO INTO THAT BUCKET OF MONEY. BUT WE BRING MONEY IN RIGHT? YEAH, EXACTLY. I ASSUMED THAT'S WHAT SHE WAS REFERRING TO IS THE BENEFITS OF THE PROGRAM. WILL WILL ALMOST PAY FOR ITSELF, BUT SAVE MONEY BY NOT ACTUALLY TARGETING THE MONEY OR THE ASSETS. IT'S JUST A KIND OF A, A SIDE BENEFIT, IF YOU WILL, I GUESS, OF DOING BUSINESS. YES. THANK YOU. SUPERVISOR. HARMON. SO I'M, I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER I USED TO TRAVEL DAILY UP I-5 PAST MOUNTAIN GATE OR UP TO MOUNTAIN GATE. AND WAS IT SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT OR CHP THAT WAS ALWAYS DOING THOSE DRUG BUSTS, RIGHT? IT WAS SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT. THEY HAD THREE VEHICLES, I BELIEVE, DEDICATED TO IT AND A FEW DIFFERENT GUYS THAT THAT WOULD WORK THE PROGRAM. SO WE'RE REINSTATING THAT SAME PROGRAM. AND YOU'RE RIGHT, THAT WAS ONE OF THE PRIMARY AREAS THEY WOULD, THEY WOULD SIT, YEAH, YOU'D GET A TIP. AND IT WAS AMAZING BECAUSE I'D SEE HIM TAKING A CAR PARK. YEAH, IT'S A FREEWAY. IT'S IT'S LIKE I SAID, IT'S A PRETTY SPECIALIZED AND PRETTY ELABORATE OPERATION, BUT VERY PRODUCTIVE. YES. THANK YOU FOR SUPERVISOR REINSTATING THAT. SORRY. THANK YOU. SUPERVISOR. HARMON. SUPERVISOR. PLUMMER. SHERIFF, DO YOU HAVE AN ESTIMATE ON HOW MUCH THAT WOULD COST PER YEAR? OH, GEEZ. I I, I DON'T UNDER SHERIFF, WE. DID YOU COME UP WITH A. YEAH. IT WOULD STRICTLY DEPEND ON THE RESOURCES THAT WE RUN IT, BUT IT DEPENDS ON HOW MANY DOGS, TOO. THAT WAS THE OTHER ONE. YEAH. AN FTE POSITION FOR DEPUTIES GOING TO RUN RIGHT AROUND 230,000. WE TYPICALLY RUN THAT PROGRAM. I DID THE SECURITY DETAIL FOR IT FOR YEARS. AND THERE'S USUALLY TWO FULL TIME DEPUTIES. AND THEN WE USE A THIRD ON OVERTIME JUST FOR SAFETY AND SECURITY. I'VE GOT IT RIGHT HERE. WHAT I'LL DO IS I'LL, I'LL, I'LL HAVE SUPERVISOR PLUMMER PR AYE THIS AND I'LL GIVE IT TO HIM. I'M JUST KIDDING. NO, I HAVE IT RIGHT HERE. SO IT'S. YEAH, IT'S I MEAN, WE HAVE EVERYTHING FROM THE BUILD OUT OF THE CHEVY TAHOES TO THE K-9 TO THE STALKER RADIO EQUIPMENT. THE. IS IT LIDAR? YEAH. LIDAR EQUIPMENT. YEAH. LIDAR. YEAH. AND THEN AXON. SO I CAN GIVE YOU ALL THAT. YEAH. I MEAN, AND AGAIN, THIS ISN'T THIS ISN'T JUST FOR THE OTHER SUPERVISORS. THIS ISN'T A RIGHT NOW THING. THIS WOULD BE A BUDGET. I JUST WANTED IT BROUGHT UP DURING THE BUDGET HEARING. SUPERVISOR LONG DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? SUPERVISOR. PLUMMER. NO, I JUST WANTED TO GET A SENSE. YEAH, BECAUSE I'LL FORWARD THIS TO YOU IF IT WAS SMALL ENOUGH, YOU KNOW. YEAH, I'M GOING TO FORWARD IT TO YOU RIGHT NOW. OKAY. SUPERVISOR LONG THANK YOU. CHAIR. I WAS GOING TO ADD THAT DURING MY DAY. I SEE BACK IN THE DAY A LONG TIME AGO AND I HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH IT, OF COURSE, BUT CHP WAS ALSO VERY ACTIVE ON THE INTERDICTION AND THE S.O. WAS RUNNING A TEAM. CHRIS MCQUILLAN, REMEMBER? CHRIS. YES. YEAH, YEAH. WELL, I SHOULDN'T SAY THAT. BUT YEAH, THE S.O. WAS RUNNING A TEAM AND THE CHP WAS RUNNING A TEAM. SO I'M CURIOUS IF STATE FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE TO REACTIVATE THE CHP ALSO, OR WOULD THAT BE ANYTHING THAT YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO COORDINATE? YEAH, I, I DON'T KNOW, I HAVEN'T LOOKED, I HAVEN'T GONE THAT FAR INTO LOOKING INTO IT. I KNOW THAT CHP IS STILL ACTIVE IN SOME OF THE AREAS AND SOME OF THE, THE PROGRAMS NOT IN. WE JUST HAVEN'T HAD ONE. SO I DON'T KNOW YET TO TO BE HONEST WITH THAT, I KNOW THAT THEY HAVEN'T HAD THE STAFFING TO PUT A CHP OFFICER BACK INCENTIVE. SO THAT MIGHT BE A HURDLE FOR THEM. GREAT. THANKS. ALL RIGHT. I THINK THAT'S I THINK THAT'S IT, SHERIFF, I APPRECIATE THAT. HEY, I'D JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, I'D REALLY LIKE TO BE THE MVP OF THE SUPER BOWL, BUT I THINK AARON'S GOT THAT ONE WRAPPED UP FOR US THIS TIME. NO SHE IS. SHE'S A SHE'S LIKE THE GOAT BECAUSE SHE CUT HER OWN BUDGET AS A DEPARTMENT HEAD AND AN ELECTED. SO SHE GETS BOTH CREDITS. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. SO I THINK AT THIS TIME AARON, DO YOU HAVE EVERYTHING WRITTEN DOWN? IS IT ON FILE? I HAVE THE LIST I'D LIKE TO GO OVER TO LIST BEFORE I SEND IT TO STEPHANIE. SO I HAVE FOR HHS AYE I HAVE SUPERVISOR PLUMMER. I'M NOT SURE IF YOU WANTED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH REQUESTING $50,000 IN THEIR BUDGET OR IF WE WANTED TO LET THAT GO COMPLETELY. YEAH, WE'LL LET THAT GO AND THEN POTENTIALLY BRING IT BACK AS A BUDGET AMENDMENT. [05:40:02] OKAY. AND THEN I HAD THE NEXT REQUEST FROM SUPERVISOR. PLUMMER FOR THE CEO'S OFFICE WAS TO ALLOCATE 50% OF THE PROFESSIONALS, 50% OF THE PIOS COST TO PROFESSIONAL SERVICES FOR GRANT WRITING. YES. MAINTAIN THAT POSITION AT HALF TIME AND THEN ALLOCATE THE REMAINING FUNDS TO A GRANT WRITER. OKAY, I HAVE FOR THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY. SUPERVISOR LONG REQUESTED THE TRANSITION TO LEGAL SECRETARY ONE TWO AT THE 5% INCREASE, AS REQUESTED FROM BY THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY. AND ADDING TWO LEGAL SECRETARY WOULD BE THE LEGAL SECRETARY. ONE TWO IN ADDITION TO THAT, TO THE DA'S BUDGET. SUPERVISOR LONG WOULD YOU CAN THAT BE BROKEN INTO TWO SEPARATE MOTIONS? I MEAN, WHEN WE GET TO THAT POINT, BECAUSE BECAUSE BECAUSE I'M GOING TO SUPPORT WHAT THE DA WANTS TO DO IN TERMS OF THE THE THE CLASSIFICATION COMPONENT. BUT BUT I'M NOT GOING TO SUPPORT THE TWO NEW POSITIONS. SO I JUST WANT TO KNOW, ARE YOU GOING TO TAKE THOSE TOGETHER? WILL THOSE BE SEPARATE? AND WAS THAT THE $69,000 HIT. SO THE FIRST ONE WAS THE $69,000 HIT OF THE LEGAL SECRETARY ONE TWO. AND THE SECOND ONE WAS THE ADDITIONAL OF TWO AT THAT SAME LEVEL. OKAY. THANK YOU. I WOULD IMAGINE THEY WOULD BE TWO SEPARATE MOTIONS. OKAY. OKAY. LET'S LET'S MAKE THEM TWO SEPARATE AND JUST AND JUST FOR, I GUESS, DISCUSSION, JUST SO YOU UNDERSTAND THE, THE DIFFERENCE WITH, I MEAN, WHAT I HEAR, THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS TO HAVE THAT TRACK OR TO HAVE THAT PROMOTIONAL OPPORTUNITY, THAT CAREER TRACK, WHICH I FULLY, I FULLY SUPPORT THAT AND THEN THE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH IT, BUT ADDING TWO MORE POSITIONS AT THIS POINT, I MEAN, THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE THAT'S NOT SOMETHING I'M GOING TO SUPPORT RIGHT NOW. BUT ANYWAY, THAT'S JUST ME. AND THEN I HAD ONE MORE ON THE LIST FROM SUPERVISOR PLUMMER TO REMOVE THE DUPLICATION COSTS IN THE ELECTIONS BUDGET. AND THAT IS THE ENTIRETY OF MY LIST. YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T EVEN I SHOULD HAVE. IS CLINT CURTIS HERE? CAN YOU COME UP? I WANT TO ASK THAT QUESTION NOW WERE WE WE HAVE TO TAKE THE VOTE BEFORE WE CLOSE THE HEARING. RIGHT. FOR 3/5. SO WE DO NOT HAVE TO TAKE THE VOTE BEFORE WE CLOSE THE HEARING. THEY JUST HAVE TO BE TO THE CLERK OF THE BOARD IN WRITING, WHICH I WILL JUST SEND HER AN EMAIL BEFORE AND THEN GET HER CONFIRMATION SHE'S RECEIVED IT BEFORE WE CLOSE. MR. CURTIS OR DO YOU DO YOU SUPPORT WHAT SUPERVISOR PLUMMER IS ASKING IN TERMS OF GETTING RID OF THE DUPLICATION COMPONENT? IS THIS THE FROM THE THE PAST ELECTION WHERE THEY HAD THAT DUPLICATION COST WITH RUN BACK IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT? YES, IT WAS IT WAS A SOFTWARE FROM RUMBEK THAT I GUESS WOULD DUPLICATE THE BALLOTS MORE QUICKLY THAN EXISTING MACHINERY. WELL, WE DO HAVE TO PAY THAT AS A BILL, BUT IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WE ARE IN NEGOTIATIONS TO GET THAT MONEY BACK, I BELIEVE, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THE CEO CAN SPEAK TO THIS OR, OR AARON, BUT THIS WAS THE 133 000 IN CAPITAL ASSETS, CORRECT. SO IN THE ELECTIONS BUDGET, THE BUDGET REQUEST WAS TO ACTUALLY ADD THE EQUIPMENT THAT RUNBECK BROUGHT UP THE LAST TIME FOR US TO USE SO THAT IT WAS ACTUALLY WE WOULD ACTUALLY OWN IT. SO IT'S NOT FOR THIS ELECTION THAT JUST PASSED, BUT FOR FUTURE ELECTIONS TO OWN THE EQUIPMENT. AND WE WOULDN'T NEED THAT AGAIN UNLESS WE HAD ANOTHER OVERSPRAY ISSUE. CORRECT. WE WILL NOT NEED THAT AGAIN BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GOING TO USE RUN BACK. SO I DON'T THINK WE NEED NEW EQUIPMENT. SO I TOTALLY AGREE. YEAH. GREAT. OKAY. IS THAT THE LAST ONE? THAT IS THE LAST ITEM THAT I HAVE ON MY LIST. SO LET US KNOW AFTER YOU SEND YOUR ITEMS. OKAY. I SENT IT, BUT I'LL TELL YOU WHAT WE'LL DO. WE'LL JUST. SO SHE'S NOT ON ON THE SPOT. WE'LL JUST TAKE A FIVE MINUTE RECESS. WE'LL COME BACK. I DID ALREADY SEND IT. ALL RIGHT. AND WE'RE WAITING FOR HER TO CONFIRM. OKAY. SO I'M JUST WAITING FOR STEPHANIE TO CONFIRM. BAILEY, THANK YOU FOR LAUGHING. I JUST APPRECIATE THAT. SO. NO. OKAY. CHAIR SUPERVISOR PLUMMER ASKED FOR THE BREAK, BUT I GUESS WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON. SO SO WE CAN WE CAN CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. I CAN CONFIRM I RECEIVED AN EMAIL FROM FROM AARON BURTON. YES. PERFECT. ALL RIGHT. SO WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT THIS TIME AND BRING IT BACK. SO WE'LL TAKE THOSE MOTIONS. I THINK ONE AT A TIME. WE'LL HAVE PEOPLE, I GUESS WHY DON'T YOU GUYS MAKE INDIVIDUAL MOTIONS FOR THE THE TWO THAT YOU HAD AND THE THE COUPLE SUPERVISOR LONG HAD DOESN'T MATTER WHO WANTS TO GO FIRST. SUPERVISOR LONG. OKAY. MOTION NUMBER ONE WOULD BE TO CHANGE THE CLASSIFICATION FOR LEGAL SECRETARIES ACROSS THE COUNTY IN ALL DEPARTMENTS THAT HAVE APPLICABLE SECRETARIES, [05:45:02] LEGAL SECRETARIES AND CHANGE THAT TO A ONE AND TWO WITH THE 5%. AND I WOULD SECOND THAT. DO WE WANT TO TAKE THEM ONE AT A TIME? YOU KNOW WHAT? WHY DON'T. SO WITH THAT, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. IF YOU. YEAH. SO WHY DON'T WE GO AHEAD AND TAKE THAT. ANY ANY DISCUSSION OVER THAT. OKAY. CAN I JUST CLARIFY THAT MOTION REAL QUICK THAT THE DIRECTION IS BEING GIVEN TO NOT ONLY ADD THE ONE TWO CLASSIFICATION, BUT TO ADD THE COST TO THE APPROPRIATE BUDGETS, CORRECT. AND THAT'S THE 69,000. CORRECT. AND IT WILL BE IN SEVERAL DIFFERENT BUDGETS. BUT WE'LL SPLIT THAT UP AND BRING THAT BACK. AND MONICA DOES THAT. I'M SORRY. YOU DON'T HAVE TO GET UP. BUT DOES THAT DOES THAT TRACK WITH WHAT I HAD ASKED EARLIER? YEAH. COME ON UP. SORRY. SORRY. REPEAT THE QUESTION. GO AHEAD. SUPERVISOR LONG ABOUT THE CLASS. THE CLASSIFICATION OF ONE AND TWO THAT WE TALKED ABOUT. THAT'S. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU SUPPORT WITH SUPPORT SERVICES IN THAT CAREER PATH AND THAT PROMOTIONAL OPPORTUNITY FOR THOSE FOR THAT CLASSIFICATION. I JUST WANT TO DOUBLE CHECK TO MAKE SURE THAT I'M STILL TALKING APPLES TO APPLES. YES. SO WE HAVE HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS WITH THE DA'S OFFICE AND WITH THE CEO'S OFFICE. AND I THINK THAT THE WAY THE DA HAD PROPOSED IT WOULD BE THAT THE ONE WOULD BE RELATIVELY CONSISTENT WITH THE CURRENT CLASSIFICATION, AND THE TWO WOULD BE AN ADVANCEMENT OPPORTUNITY WITH THAT 5% INCREASE. WHAT WAS PROPOSED? AN ALTERNATE, WHICH IS WHERE I THINK THERE WAS SOME CONFUSION GOING ON, IS THAT THE ONE WOULD BE SET AS SORT OF A TRAINING CLASS WITH A LESSER MINIMUM QUALIFICATION, SO THAT IT WOULD ALLOW FOR BETTER RECRUITMENT INTO THAT POSITION. THEY WOULD HAVE TO BE WILLING TO TRAIN AND BRING PEOPLE UP TO SPEED IN THAT CLASS. IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT'S NOT WHAT THE DA IS PROPOSING OR WISHING TO DO. SO ULTIMATELY THAT WILL BE FOR THE BOARD TO DECIDE TO INCLUDE IN THAT THE 5% KEEP THE CURRENT STEP ONE AT WHERE IT IS, AND THEN HAVE THE 5% BUMP FOR THE STEP TWO. AND THEN THE TOTAL COST WOULD BE ACROSS THE COUNTY, ABOUT 69,000. THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED. YES, THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I'M PROPOSING. YEAH. CAN WE ALSO ADD TO THAT THE INCREASE FOR THE LEGAL SECRETARY? SUPERVISOR WHICH WAS INCLUDED IN THAT ORIGINAL. CORRECT. DOES THAT TRACK CEO RICKERT. THAT DOES. I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT THE THE WHOLE POINT AND ABLE TO BRING IN A CHANCE OF BRINGING IN A LEGAL SECRETARY IS TO LOWER THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE ONE SO YOU CAN, BECAUSE IF YOU'RE RECRUITING AT THE SAME LEVEL, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO RECRUIT ANYBODY AT THE CURRENT STANDARD. THAT'S, THAT'S PART OF THE CHALLENGE. SO I WOULD RECOMMEND LOWERING THE STANDARD FOR THE LEGAL SECRETARY ONE, SO YOU CAN BRING PEOPLE THROUGH THE DOOR. WE COULD STILL LEAVE LEGAL SECRETARY ONE AT THE CURRENT FUNDING. SO JUST LOWER THE STANDARDS WE WOULDN'T HAVE. OKAY. CORRECT. AND D A BRIDGETT DOES THAT. I'M SORRY. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THIS. I THINK THIS IS IMPORTANT, SO I WANT TO GET IT REALLY CLEAR. DOES THAT, DOES THAT TRACK WITH THE REQUEST THAT YOU THAT THAT HELPS YOU. YEAH. IF WE KEEP THE LEGAL SECRETARY ONE AT CURRENTLY AS A LEGAL SECRETARY IS PAID. AND THEN THE LEGAL REQUIREMENTS. WELL, I MEAN, THE CLASSIFICATION, THE REQUIREMENTS ARE GOING TO BE WORDED DIFFERENT BETWEEN A ONE AND A TWO. CORRECT. BUT YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. THE PAY FOR LEGAL SECRETARY ONE WOULD BE EQUAL TO A LEGAL SECRETARY AND A LEGAL SECRETARY. TWO WITH HIGHER REQUIREMENTS FOR CASE COMPLEXITY WOULD HAVE THE 5% WITH THE WITH THE SUPERVISOR BEING. BUT IF WE LOWERED THE HIRING REQUIREMENTS ON THAT LEGAL SECRETARY WHEN LEAVING THE PAY THERE, THE LOWER LOWERING THE REQUIREMENTS THAT WOULD BE EASIER FOR. TO TRY TO FILL THOSE POSITIONS IN THE FUTURE. IS THIS SOMETHING YOU'D CONSIDER WITH THE PAY REMAINING THE SAME? YES, YES. OR WE'RE HAPPY TO LOOK AT WHAT THAT WHAT THAT WORDING WOULD BE TO LOOK AT IT, IF IT'S GOING TO HELP IN RECRUITMENT FOR SURE, AS LONG AS THE PAY STAYS AT WHAT'S PROPOSED, I WOULD PROPOSE THAT MAYBE WE LEAVE THAT UP TO YOU TO WRITE THE JOB CLASSIFICATION DESCRIPTIONS. I THINK IT WOULD BE WITH PERSONNEL AS WELL AS THE OTHER IMPACTED DEPARTMENTS, BUT I KNOW WE CAN ALL WORK TOGETHER AND COME UP WITH WHAT'S GOING TO WORK FOR ALL OF US ACROSS ALL THE DEPARTMENTS. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. YOU KNOW WHAT? THAT'S IF WE HAVE SUPPORT SERVICES, CEO AND THE DA ALL NODDING. YES, I THINK WE JUST STOPPED TALKING ABOUT IT BECAUSE THEY'VE ALL AGREED. ALL RIGHT. COUNCIL SAYS LARMOR, BUT THAT'S NOT TRUE. MISS WEBER, THAT'S NOT TRUE. TRICIA WEBER, ASSISTANT COUNTY COUNSEL. JUST FOR THE RECORD, I WANT TO CLARIFY WHICH MOTION IS AT PLAY. AND WE HAD QUITE A BIT OF DISCUSSION THAT SEEMS TO HAVE OVERRIDDEN THAT. SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE CLEAR FOR THE RECORD. OKAY. STATE YOUR MOTION ONE MORE TIME AND I'LL SECOND IT. OKAY. I WOULD LIKE I PROPOSE MOTION THAT WE CREATE A LEGAL SECRETARY ONE AND TWO POSITION THAT THE SECRETARY TWO BE A 5% BUMP UP IN PAY FROM THE LEGAL DESCRIPTION FOR THE ONE OR FOR, FOR ONE. THE TOTAL COST OF THIS PROPOSAL ACROSS ALL COUNTY DEPARTMENTS WOULD BE [05:50:05] APPROXIMATELY THOUSAND DOLLARS. AND WE WILL AT A LATER DATE, DETERMINE THE DESCRIPTION OF BOTH. BOTH CLASSIFICATIONS. SO SUPERVISOR LONG WE HAVE WOULD ACTUALLY HAVE TO BRING BACK THE CLASSIFICATIONS WITH SUCH AN ADOPTION. OKAY, SO EVERYTHING, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE LAST STATEMENT I MADE ABOUT THE. LEGAL DESCRIPTION, CAN WE INCLUDE INCLUDE THE LEGAL SECRETARY SUPERVISOR TO INCREASE SUPERVISOR. YES. I KEEP FORGETTING THAT PART. YES. SO THAT WAS CLEAR AS MUD. YEAH. YEAH. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WELL, I'LL SECOND IT. IS THAT IS THAT GOOD? ONE CLARIFICATION. YOU MENTIONED $69,000 ACROSS THE COUNTY FOR ALL CLASSIFICATIONS. I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY WITH MISS BURTON, IS THAT $69,000 FOR ALL THREE THAT WOULD IMPACT THE COUNTY BUDGET, OR IS THAT FOR EACH DEPARTMENT? IT'S FOR ALL THREE. IT'S SPLIT BASED ON KIND OF WHAT WE HAD PROJECTED PREVIOUSLY. IF WE COULD MAYBE RATHER THAN SAYING $69,000. SPECIFICALLY, DIRECT THE CEO'S OFFICE TO INCLUDE THOSE CALCULATIONS FOR EACH OF THE AFFECTED BUDGETS. OKAY. DO YOU NEED ME TO RESTATE IT? NO, I THINK. I COULDN'T IF I WANTED TO. SO WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO RESTATE IT? YES. YOU RESTATE IT AND I'LL SAY THAT'S WHAT I MEANT. OKAY, SO WE'RE GOING TO ADD CLASSIFICATIONS TO REPLACE THE LEGAL SECRETARY WITH A LEGAL SECRETARY. ONE TWO CLASSIFICATION. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE LEGAL SECRETARY ONE HAVE SALARY AT THE AT THE SAME RANGE AS LEGAL SECRETARY. ONE CURRENTLY LEGAL SECRETARY TWO WILL BE 5% HIGHER. A LEGAL SECRETARY SUPERVISOR WILL ALSO BE INCREASED FOR COMPACTION. AND THE BUDGETS FOR THE ASSOCIATED DEPARTMENTS WILL BE AMENDED BY THE CEO AND BROUGHT BACK WITH THE ADOPTED BUDGET. YES, THAT IS MY MOTION. ALL RIGHT. MISS BLANKENSHIP, WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO TAKE A ROLL CALL VOTE OR DO WE WANT TO? YEAH. WE'LL START TO MY LEFT. OKAY. SUPERVISOR LONG. YES. SUPERVISOR. KELSTROM. YES. SUPERVISOR. CRYE. YES. SUPERVISOR. HARMON. LET ME THINK ABOUT IT. JUST KIDDING. YES. AND. SUPERVISOR. PLUMMER. YES. FIVE ZERO. OKAY, I WILL TAKE SUPERVISOR LONG. YOU HAVE ANOTHER MOTION, I BELIEVE. YES. THANK YOU. SO THIS MOTION WOULD BE TO ADD TWO NEW LEGAL SECRETARIES TO THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. DIES FOR LACK OF A SECOND. SUPERVISOR LONG. WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO AMEND THAT TO ONE? WE DON'T HAVE A SECOND. I DIDN'T. OR WERE YOU THINKING ABOUT THAT, CORKY? WEREN'T YOU THINKING ABOUT THAT EARLIER? ABOUT THE TWO? I THOUGHT WE WERE DONE WHEN WE JUST DID THE. I'M NOT SURE WE'RE GOING. OH, NO, I HAD I HAD SAID EARLIER. AND YOU SAID THAT YOU WERE IN SUPPORT OF WHAT I HAD MENTIONED, WHICH WAS BECAUSE WE'VE GOT TO CONSIDER THE FACT THAT THIS IS A GREAT BANG FOR THE BUCK, ADDING THESE TWO POSITIONS BECAUSE THEY'RE FAR CHEAPER AND THEY WILL TAKE ALL THE SECRETARIAL WORK OFF THE ATTORNEYS, AND THEY WILL FREE THEM UP TO DO ATTORNEY WORK AND RESPOND TO ALL THESE EXTRA CHALLENGES WE'VE GOT. SO CAN I GET YOUR BUY IN TO THAT? AND SUPERVISOR PLUMMER IS RECOMMENDING ONE, BUT I'D LIKE TO GET THE TWO. THEY'RE GETTING SUPERVISOR KELSTROM. THEY'RE GETTING TWO PARALEGALS WITH A B 109 FUNDS IN THIS UPCOMING BUDGET. CORRECT. THAT SHOULD HELP MATTERS, I WOULD THINK. CORRECT. BUT WE WE DID HEAR FROM THE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT, WHICH IS THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY HERSELF, THAT SHE'S TALKED ABOUT THE CASE WORK AND THE CASE LOADS. AND WHILE THE A B 109 FUNDS FOR THE TWO PARALEGALS IS AWESOME THAT WILL NOT BE SUFFICIENT TO KEEP THE WORK FLOW, WHICH HAS INCREASED TREMENDOUSLY CURRENTLY. AND WE'VE GOT SHERIFF'S CAMERAS OR BODY CAMS THAT ARE COMING IN JUST I'M JUST TELLING YOU. SO AND THAT'S WE'RE GIVING STAFFING TO THE REDDING POLICE, A LIEUTENANT AND TWO CSOS, AND THEY'VE GOT THEIR RECORD SUPPORT. WE'RE GIVING CHP. CHP IS COMING ONLINE. WE'VE GIVEN A LIEUTENANT AND TWO CSOS TO THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT. IT'S A LOT OF EXTRA FOLKS TO ON THE ON THE LAW ENFORCEMENT SIDE. AND MY WORRY IS THAT WHEN WE DON'T FUND PROPERLY WITH THE LEGAL SECRETARIES, WE'RE GOING TO REALLY SLOW DOWN THAT PROCESS OF REVIEW AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF. AND WE'RE ADDING RESOURCES ON THE COP SIDE, BUT WE'RE NOT ADDING RESOURCES TO THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY. WELL, AND ONE OF MY QUESTIONS, WELL, THE REASON I WASN'T NOT SUPPORTING THIS AT THIS TIME IS WHEN WE GET THE CAMERA, THIS IS JUST ME. AND YOU CAN RESTATE YOUR MOTION FOR A POSSIBLE SECOND. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I CLARIFY TO YOU. AND THEN OF COURSE, THE D A IS WHEN THE CAMERAS DO COME AND THERE'S ACTUAL, I MEAN, I WOULD EXPECT A BUDGET AMENDMENT TO COME QUICK IF THOSE CAMERAS ACTUALLY BRING WHATEVER SET AMOUNT OF EXTRA WORK TOWARDS, AND THEN WE WOULD LOOK AT THAT PRETTY QUICKLY. [05:55:02] THE ONLY THE ONLY THING I WOULD PUSH BACK ON THAT IS THAT WE HAVE HAD ALL KINDS OF MANDATES THAT ARE COMING UNFUNDED MANDATES, PROP 36, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FELONY MURDER RULE, WHICH IS ALL THESE PEOPLE ARE CHALLENGING THE CASES. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 290 REGISTRANTS, SEX OFFENDERS, AND THEY'RE CHALLENGING THEIR CASES. THEY'RE TRYING TO GET OUT OF PRISON. WE'VE JUST GOT ALL THESE MANDATES THAT HAVE COME DOWN THE LINE. THEY'RE UNFUNDED, A LOT OF THEM. AND THE WORKLOAD IS SO INTENSE FOR OUR ATTORNEYS RIGHT NOW THAT THEY'RE DOING SECRETARIAL WORK. IF WE CAN HIRE A COUPLE MORE SECRETARIES TO HELP THEM OUT, WE'RE GOING TO LET THEM GET BACK TO DEALING WITH THE BODY CAMERA VIEWING AND ALL THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. AND I THINK IT'S A GREAT BANG FOR THE BUCK, REALLY. AND WE'RE ALL ABOUT EFFICIENCY. I HAD ASKED THIS QUESTION TO D.A. BRIDGETT 52%. I THINK OF THE RPD'S AND THE CASE LOAD. I FORGET THE TEAM'S CASE LOAD FOR SHASTA COUNTY. AND THEN THEN YOU GOT ANDERSON. AND NOW WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT CHP. HOW COME THESE OTHER DEPARTMENTS, THESE OTHER AGENCIES CAN'T KICK IN SINCE WE'RE GOING TO DO ALL THE PROCESSING ON ALL THESE. YOU'RE GOING LIKE THAT. THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. THAT WON'T HAPPEN. FIRST OF ALL, RPD IS CITY OF REDDING IS A TOTALLY DIFFERENT ENTITY. SO, SO WE'RE, WE'RE JUST THE DA'S OFFICE IS THE ONE TAKING ON THE BURDEN OF. SURE, SURE. BUT YOU'VE GOT CHP, WHICH IS A STATE ENTITY AND YOU'VE GOT RPD, WHICH IS A CITY ENTITY. AND WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, WHICH IS ONLY ONE OUT OF THE THREE AGENCIES. SO IT'S IT'S I THINK IT'S A REALLY IMPORTANT THING AT THIS TIME TO GIVE SOME REINFORCEMENT AND TO PRIORITIZE LAW ENFORCEMENT IN THIS COMMUNITY AND THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. LET'S FACE IT, THEY'RE THE FORGOTTEN TRIAD. THEY'RE THE FORGOTTEN PART OF THE TRIANGLE. A LOT OF TIMES, BECAUSE THE COPS GET ALL THE ATTENTION AND SO. AND PROBATION. AND SO I JUST THINK THAT WE'RE, WE'RE GIVING THEM SOME REINFORCEMENT, SOME BACKUP. IT'S IT'S, YEAH, IT'S, IT'S A LEGAL SECRETARY, TWO OF THEM. BUT I WOULD, YOU KNOW, DO YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHTS ON THAT? WELL, I'M STILL NOT GETTING AN ANSWER. WHY? WHY ARE WE TAKING ON ALL THIS EXTRA WORK AND WE'RE NOT GETTING REIMBURSED FROM ANYBODY? WELL, BECAUSE THE COUNTY, THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY IS, IS OUR ENTITY. WE'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR BUDGET. AND SO WE CAN'T COUNT ON WE HAVE TO FUND THEM PROPERLY AND APPROPRIATELY TO ENSURE PUBLIC SAFETY. AND I THINK ALL OF US ON THE BOARD WOULD WOULD DEFINITELY STATE THAT PUBLIC SAFETY IS OUR NUMBER ONE PRIORITY IN THIS COMMUNITY. IT CERTAINLY IS MINE. AND AND SO I THINK THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO MAKE THEIR JOB MORE EFFICIENT AND HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF EXTRA STAFF INCREASE TO TO HELP TAKE OFF THE SECRETARIAL DUTIES OFF THE ATTORNEYS, THEN THAT'S GOING TO FREE THEM UP TO DO A LOT OF OTHER DUTIES. AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE MASSIVELY OVERWORKED RIGHT NOW. ONE QUESTION SUPERVISOR LONG WOULD WE BE ABLE TO BECAUSE WHEN ORIGINALLY AT THE START OF THE HEARINGS AND THIS IS A TESTAMENT REALLY TO DA BRIDGETT PRESENTATION AND HOW THOROUGH IT WAS, LIKE I WASN'T EVEN GOING TO MOVE ON THE RECLASSIFICATION OF THE LEGAL SECRETARY ONE AND TWO. SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE FINANCIAL IMPACT OF THAT COMPLETELY PLAY OUT. AND IT MAY TAKE, YOU KNOW, A MONTH, SIX. I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG MISS BURTON IS GOING TO TAKE TO ACTUALLY GO THROUGH THOSE NUMBERS AND THEN SEE THE IMPACT, WHAT THE TRUE ONE IS, EVEN IF WE GET THAT BACK WHEN WE ADOPT THE BUDGET, WE COULD BRING A POSSIBLY A BUDGET AMENDMENT BACK. BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT BECAUSE WE SAY IT'S JUST ONE ONE POSITION, BUT WE JUST ASKED 20 SOME DEPARTMENTS ACROSS THE COUNTY TO NOT DO THAT. AND EVERYBODY DID DO THAT. AND SO WELL, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A REALITY THAT OUR COMMUNITY DEMANDS AND WANTS PUBLIC SAFETY ABOVE PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING ELSE. I MEAN, THAT'S LIKE A NUMBER ONE PRIORITY. AND I HEARD IT ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL. SO I THINK WE ALL DID. WE. YEAH, WE ALL DID. AND WE ALL ARE. AND I THINK WE NEED TO PUT UP OR SHUT UP AND WE NEED TO STEP UP AND HELP GIVE SOME SUPPORT TO THIS, THIS DEPARTMENT. AND I THINK WE'RE GOING TO GET A HUGE, TREMENDOUS BANG FOR THE BUCK BY HIRING SECRETARIES VERSUS MORE ATTORNEYS. AND WE'RE TYING UP OUR ATTORNEYS, AND WE'RE ALREADY FACING A CRISIS WITH OUR ATTORNEYS BECAUSE THERE ARE FIVE POSITIONS UNDERSTAFFED AND THEY CAN'T REFILL THEM. SO BY, BY PUTTING IN THE TWO EXTRA ATTORNEYS. AND I THINK THE THING THAT WE'RE MISSING IS WE'RE NOT, I'M ACTUALLY PROBABLY THE, THE, THE LEADING SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT ON THIS BOARD, RIGHT IN THE AREA OF PUBLIC SAFETY BECAUSE OF MY BACKGROUND. THAT SO THAT I'M NOT SAYING. YEAH, BUT DOES THAT MEAN MAYBE MR. HARMON WOULD BE THE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT ON FINANCES BECAUSE HE'S WORTH THE MOST MONEY? THAT'S NOT THE SAME. BUT I'M JUST SAYING MY OPINION, [06:00:01] MY OPINION IS BASED ON EXPERIENCE. AND AND I DO BELIEVE THAT IF YOU WERE TALKING TO ME ABOUT HHS AYE OR PUBLIC WORKS, I WOULD, I WOULDN'T EVEN VENTURE INTO THIS FIELD BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT. BUT I THINK I DO HAVE A FEEL FOR WHAT PUBLIC SAFETY IS IN THIS COMMUNITY BASED ON MY BACKGROUND. AND I'M JUST ASKING FOR BOARD SUPPORT TO, TO JUST TRY THIS OUT. AND I THINK WE NEED TO LISTEN TO THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY. SHE'S THE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT IN HER OWN DEPARTMENT. AND I THINK WE NEED TO NOT, NOT WEIGH IN SO MUCH THAT WE SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, AND SHE'S ASKED FOR A LOT OF DIFFERENT POSITIONS, AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO FILL MOST OF THEM BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE BUDGET TO DO IT. BUT I THINK IN THIS IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, IF SHE'S TELLING US THIS WILL INCREASE EFFICIENCY IN HER DEPARTMENT AND DRAMATICALLY REDUCE THE STRESS ON HER ATTORNEYS AND ALLOW THEM TO GET BACK TO BUSINESS. I'M ALL FOR THAT. SO THAT'S I'M JUST SAYING, I WEIGH IN A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE OF MY BACKGROUND IN LAW ENFORCEMENT, YOU KNOW, IN MANAGEMENT AND AS A LINE OFFICER AND DETECTIVE AND ALL THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. AND I KNOW I KNOW A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS TOPIC. SO I'M JUST ASKING FOR THE BOARD TO KIND OF YEAH, KIND OF KIND OF WAY IN MY, MY OPINION. AND THEN ALSO THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OPINION. SUPERVISOR. PLUMMER. YOU'RE NEXT IN QUEUE. AND THEN WE HAVE. OKAY. SO. CHAIR, IF I MAY JUST INTERRUPT TO CLARIFY WHERE WE ARE, BECAUSE I KNOW SUPERVISOR LONG MADE A MOTION. THERE WAS A MENTION THAT IT DIED FOR LACK OF A SECOND. SO I WANT TO CLARIFY WHERE WE ARE. AND WE'RE UNDER BOARD DISCUSSION BECAUSE SUPERVISOR PLUMMER, I THINK IS GOING TO. HE ASKED ABOUT A SUBSTITUTE MOTION, SO I'M GOING TO. THE SUPERVISOR MOTION DIED FOR LACK OF A SECOND. I THINK SUPERVISOR PLUMMER WAS STARTING TO TALK ABOUT A SUBSTITUTE MOTION OR ASKING SUPERVISOR LONG TO AMEND THE MOTION, I BELIEVE, IF I ASK A QUESTION. ARE YOU TURNING MY MICROPHONE ON? OKAY. THERE'S SOMETHING GOING ON WITH ALL OF OUR MICROPHONES RIGHT NOW, AND I'M NOT SURE WHY. A LITTLE WHILE AGO. YEAH, I SAW THAT. HEY AARON, WHAT IS THE COST OF A LEGAL SECRETARY WITH HEALTH CARE AND RETIREMENT AND INSURANCE EXPOSURE? AND IT WAS 89,000. AARON JUST SENT ME THOSE NUMBERS. OKAY. YEAH, THAT WAS MY QUICK QUESTION. THANK YOU. AND THAT'S SO SO I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ADD ONE LEGAL SECRETARY, ONE TO TO THE DA'S OFFICE. AND MY THINKING IS IT'S 89,000 CURRENTLY FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, WE DID AN ADD THREE, DELETE THREE, WHICH IS A NET FUND NET GENERAL FUND IMPACT OF 55000. AND THEN WE'RE ADDING AN AUTOPSY TECHNICIAN TO THE CORONER'S OFFICE, WHICH IS A NET GENERAL FUND IMPACT OF, I THINK, 113 OR 130. SO 180 160,000. SO I THINK THIS WOULD BE A WAY TO MEET WHAT WHAT I FEEL IS CERTAINLY A NEED NOT KILL OUR BUDGET. AND ALSO YOU KNOW, DEMONSTRATE EQUAL SUPPORT FOR THE LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS. SO THAT'S MY QUESTION. YEAH. THANK YOU. SO WOULD YOU LIKE ME OR. NO. YOU MADE THE MOTION. SECONDED. OKAY. SO BUT BUT FOR FOR ALL THOSE WATCHING AT HOME, YOU GET CREDIT FOR BRINGING IT UP. HOW ABOUT THAT? SO I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY. SORRY, WITH ALL THE TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES I'M HAVING ON THIS END TO TRY AND GET YOUR GUYS'S MICS WORKING, I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY WHO MADE THE MOTION, WHO SECONDED AND WHAT IT WAS. SUPERVISOR PLUMMER MADE THE MOTION FOR ONE AND SUPERVISOR KELSTROM SECOND. THANK YOU. I THOUGHT YOU WERE GOING TO GIVE IT TO LONG. NO. YEAH. GIVE HIM CREDIT. HE'S GOING TO GET A STICKER FOR HIS REFRIGERATOR AT HOME. OKAY WE'LL GO AHEAD AND TAKE THE ROLL CALL VOTE. SINCE WE DID THAT AT THE BEGINNING, WE'LL START TO MY RIGHT WITH SUPERVISOR PLUMMER SINCE IT WAS HIS MOTION. SUPERVISOR. PLUMMER. YES. SUPERVISOR. HARMON. YES. SUPERVISOR. CRYE. YES. SUPERVISOR. KELSTROM. YES. SUPERVISOR LONG. YES. PASSES FIVE ZERO. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THEN WE'RE MOVING TO SUPERVISOR PLUMMER. I BELIEVE YOUR ITEM WITH THE CIO'S OFFICE. WELL, FIRST I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO REMOVE THE LINE ITEM FOR THE BALLOT DUPLICATION SOFTWARE IN THE ELECTIONS OFFICE. I'LL SECOND THAT ONE ALSO. OKAY, I THINK I THINK WE COULD PROBABLY JUST DO AN ALL CALL ON THIS ONE. ALL RIGHT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. PASSES FIVE ZERO. ALL RIGHT. LET'S GO TO THE YOUR LAST ONE. SUPERVISOR PLUMMER. SO HERE I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO. AND I'M JUST PULLING UP THE NUMBERS HERE. SORRY. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO TURN THE PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICER ROLE INTO A HALF TIME ROLE, AND THEN USE THE REMAINDER OF WHAT WAS 166,000 IN COMPENSATION TO [06:05:06] ALLOCATE TWO PROFESSIONAL SERVICES TO CONTRACT WITH A GRANT WRITER. SO HEARING, HEARING. NO. SECOND, THAT WOULD DIE FOR A LACK OF A SECOND SUPERVISOR LONG. WELL, WE'RE GOING TO NO. NOTHING. OKAY. SUPERVISOR. KELSTROM. WELL IF YOU WERE TO BREAK THAT IN HALF, I THINK I WOULD SUPPORT THE FIRST PORTION OF THAT. I WOULD SUPPORT IF YOU WANT. I MEAN, IF YOU WANT ME TO MAKE THE MOTION OR IF YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION JUST TO MAKE THE PUBLIC SERVICE OFFICER HALF TIME. I WOULD SUPPORT THAT. THE GRANT WRITER I'M NOT SO SURE ABOUT, BUT THE PUBLIC SERVICE OFFICER HALF TIME, I DEFINITELY SUPPORT THAT. SO YOU'RE SAYING MAKE THE PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICER HALF TIME AND THEN JUST ACCRUE THE SAVINGS FOR THE REMAINING SUPERVISOR HARMON WERE YOU SUGGESTING SOMETHING? I DIDN'T HEAR WHAT YOU SAID. I WAS JUST SAYING WE WE JUST WE JUST GOT INFORMATION THAT THE LAST GRANT WRITERS WE HIRED DIDN'T WORK OUT, SO I WAS. THAT'S ALL I WAS GOING TO SAY TO YOU WAS DROP WHAT KELSTROM JUST SAID, DROP THE GRANT WRITER AND DO THAT IN HOUSE. ALL RIGHT. DO WHAT IN HOUSE? SORRY. THE GRANT WRITING. THE GRANT WRITING. SO WE WOULD SO WE WOULD DO WHAT SUPERVISOR KELSTROM JUST SAID. I'M SECOND IN WHAT HE'S SAYING. IF YOU IF YOU'LL MAKE THE MOTION. I'M NOT I'M NOT MAKING A MOTION. I'M SAYING IF YOU'LL THEM INTO YOUR EMOTIONS. JUST TAKE THE MOTION AND RUN WITH IT. IT WAS MATT'S IDEA TO START WITH. I'M GIVING HIM THE OPTION. I MEAN, THE POINT FOR ME OF DOING THAT WOULD BE TO GET SOME GRANT WRITING CAPACITY. SO AT THIS TIME, IF THE BOARD ISN'T INTERESTED IN THAT, THEN I WILL. I WILL LEAVE IT AS IS IN TERMS OF THAT ROLE. OKAY. THEN I WILL MAKE THE MOTION TO MAKE THE PUBLIC SERVICE OFFICER A HALF TIME POSITION. I THINK IT'S THAT PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICER. YES. AND THEN, I MEAN, I JUST THINK FROM OUR FROM OUR OFFICE, I WOULD CLARIFY THAT WHAT THAT'S GOING TO MEAN IS IF WE HAVE A HALF TIME OF A PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICER RATHER THAN A FULL TIME, THAT'S GOING TO MEAN REDUCED SERVICES. SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE LESS OUTREACH IN THE COMMUNITY. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE LESS SUPPORT TO DEPARTMENTS AND REALLY EVEN LESS SUPPORT TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS. I WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST, WITH SUPERVISOR PLUMMER'S DESIRE TO GET MORE GRANT WRITING OUT THERE, THAT WE COULD USE THE PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICER TO DO SOME OF THAT RESEARCH. THEY DON'T GENERALLY HAVE THE SKILLS. YOU DON'T USUALLY FIND THE SKILLS OF A PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICER IN A GRANT WRITER IN THE SAME. BUT WE COULD HAVE THAT PIO DO SOME OF THE RESEARCH AND THEN HAVE OUR ANALYST TEAM SUPPORT THEIR DEPARTMENTS IN. BECAUSE THE DEPARTMENTS ARE THE PUBLIC, THEY'RE THE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS IN SUBMITTING THE GRANTS. AND WE COULD DO KIND OF THAT INITIAL LIFT IN OUR OFFICE AND THEN SUPPORT THE DEPARTMENTS AS THEY. SUPERVISOR KELSTROM WOULD YOU WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO I GUESS I WOULD SAY WITHDRAW YOUR MOTION. ONE OF THE THINGS, ONE OF THE CONVERSATIONS I'VE HAD WITH CEO RICKERT SINCE THE POSITION HAS BEEN OPEN, IT'S GIVEN HIM AN OPPORTUNITY NOW WITH, I BELIEVE, A DEPUTY CEO, BEUTEL, LOOK AT THE JOB DUTIES, JOB DUTIES, AND THEN LOOK AT SOME OF THE CLERK OF THE BOARD DUTIES AND THEN SEE IF THERE'S A WAY TO EVEN POSSIBLY REINVENT THAT POSITION FOR SOMETHING THAT WORKS WITH CEO RICKERT S LEADERSHIP STYLE BECAUSE HE INHERITED THE POSITION, OBVIOUSLY, AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING YOU'D BRING BACK TO US CEO RECORD AT A FUTURE DATE. YEAH. THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN CRYE AND SUPERVISOR KELSTROM. AND THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS WE WANT TO SIT DOWN. WE WANT TO EVALUATE THE DUTIES AND FUNCTIONS OF THAT POSITION, COME BACK AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION. LOOK AT CURRENT TALENT WITHIN THE CEO'S OFFICE AND FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN MOST EFFICIENTLY USE THAT AND SAVE RESOURCES AT THE SAME TIME. SO WE'RE GOING TO EVALUATE THAT, AND THEN I'LL CONFER WITH THE CHAIRMAN AND COME BACK WITH RECOMMENDATIONS FOR ADJUSTMENTS. I WILL WITHDRAW MY MOTION AND PASS THE BALL TO CEO RICKERT. OKAY. THANK YOU. SUPERVISOR LONG. OH, YOU'RE BACK OUT. I WAS GOING TO ASK HIM SOME QUESTIONS. CEO RICKERT, BUT WE JUST RESOLVED IT. YOU SEE, YOU SEE YOUR MIC MAGICALLY CAME ON THAT. STEPHANIE. THAT'S MY NOSE WORK RIGHT THERE. WE'RE WORKING AGAINST EACH OTHER SOMETIMES. ALL RIGHT, SO, MISS BURTON, I THINK WE'VE GONE THROUGH ALL OF THAT. SO AT THIS TIME I WOULD. I BELIEVE I'D MAKE A MOTION OR I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE REST OF THE BUDGET AS IS. IS THAT CORRECT? ACTUALLY, THE BUDGET ADOPTION COMES BACK IN LESS THAN TWO WEEKS NOW, A WEEK AND A HALF, AND WE'LL COME BACK WITH RESOLUTIONS THAT WILL REFLECT THE CHANGES TODAY. PERFECT. OKAY. MISS BLANKENSHIP, I KNOW. YEP. THERE IT IS. CEO RICKERT. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE RELATED TO THE BUDGET? NO ADDITIONAL COMMENT. UNLESS AARON BURTON HAS ADDITIONAL INFORMATION FOR THE BOARD. I DO NOT I THINK I'VE HAD ENOUGH COMMENT FOR NOW. I JUST HAVE A QUESTION FOR NELDA. DOES THIS DOES THIS FEEL LIKE DECEMBER 26TH? IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, YOU GOT TO TAKE THE TREE DOWN. IT'S ALL DEPRESSING BECAUSE IT'S LIKE [06:10:04] CHRISTMAS IS OVER. ALL RIGHT. YES. AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH TO ALL THE DEPARTMENT HEADS, ALL THE PRESENTERS SPEAKERS ELECTED AND APPOINTED. YOU GUYS DID A PHENOMENAL JOB. AND WE'RE JUST WE'RE VERY LUCKY AND WE'RE VERY SPOILED HERE IN THE COUNTY TO HAVE SO MANY GREAT LEADERS ACROSS SO MANY GREAT DEPARTMENTS. SO THANK YOU. YES. THANK YOU ALL FOR ANOTHER GREAT YEAR. SO THANK YOU. OKAY, SO AT THIS TIME, WE ARE GOING TO RECESS AS THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, AND WE'RE GOING TO RECONVENE AS WE'LL TAKE THE HOUSING AUTHORITY FIRST. CORRECT. WE'RE GOING TO RECONVENE AS A SHASTA COUNTY HOUSING AUTHORITY. THE BOARD. IF I MAY, BEFORE YOU GET TOO FAR. OH, YES. LOOKING AT THE AGENDA FOR NUMBER SIX, CONSIDER DIRECTING THE CEO TO PREPARE THE SUBSEQUENT BOARD ACTION. DO WE NEED TO DO THAT OR SIX? NO. JUST SIX. NUMBER SIX. NUMBER SIX. OKAY. SO I THINK SO I THINK WHAT WHAT THE COUNTY COUNSEL IS REFERRING TO IS IF SOMEONE WANTS TO MAKE A MOTION TO DIRECT THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICE TO BRING BACK THE APPROPRIATE RESOLUTIONS, WE CAN TAKE THAT MOTION. OKAY. SO WE'LL RECONVENE AS THE SHASTA COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS. AND THEN DOES SOMEONE WANT TO MAKE A MOTION? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO DIRECT STAFF TO PREPARE THE BUDGET AS DISCUSSED AND VOTED ON. I'LL SECOND. ALL RIGHT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL RIGHT. PASSES FIVE ZERO. NOW WE ARE GOING TO RECESS. THE SHASTA COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS RECONVENE THE SHASTA COUNTY HOUSING [Shasta County Housing Authority Budget Hearing] AUTHORITY. WE WILL TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT. MISS BLANKENSHIP, IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT AS IT RELATES TO THE SHASTA COUNTY HOUSING AUTHORITY? JUST ONE MOMENT, CHAIR. THERE IS NOT. OKAY, SO WE HAVE R ONE. AARON BURTON, DEPUTY CEO. COME ON UP. GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIR CRYE. MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. AARON RETAINED DEPUTY COUNTY EXECUTIVE OFFICER BEFORE YOU AS THE RECOMMENDED FISCAL YEAR 2526 BUDGET FOR THE COMMUNITY ACTION AGENCY. THE RECOMMENDED BUDGET IS MOSTLY CONSISTENT WITH THE BUDGET FOR PRIOR YEARS IN RELATION TO SALARY AND BENEFITS. THIS BUDGET IS DRIVEN BY GRANTS AS THEY ARE AVAILABLE AT THE STATE AND LOCAL LEVEL. THE BUDGET REFLECTS THESE REVENUES AS WELL AS EXPENDITURES OF REVENUES ALREADY RECEIVED. THE LARGEST PORTION OF THIS BUDGET IS RELATED TO EXPENSES RELATED TO APPROVED PROJECTS AND BENEFITS TO RECIPIENTS. I'M HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME, AND STAFF FROM HHS ARE ALSO PRESENT TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM ANY OF THE BOARD MEMBERS AT THIS TIME? ALL RIGHT. I WILL MAKE A MOTION. CHAIR. YES. IF WE COULD. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. SO IF WE COULD OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. SUPERVISOR HARMON TOOK MY SHEETS. I WASN'T SURE IF IT WAS A PUBLIC HEARING OR NOT. ALL RIGHT. IT IS A PUBLIC HEARING. ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. MISS BLANKENSHIP, IS ALL CORRESPONDENCE ON FILE WITH THE CLERK OF THE BOARD. YES, CHAIR. IT IS. ALL RIGHT. DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? WE DO NOT. WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THAT PUBLIC HEARING. AND I WILL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ACCEPT AS WRITTEN AND DELIVERED BY MISS BURTON WILL SECOND. HE'S NOT HERE. OKAY. MISS BLANKENSHIP, YOU'RE IN. Q IS THERE SOMETHING. NO. OKAY. WE'RE WE'RE VOTING ON R ONE. CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. YES. ALL RIGHT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? CHAIR, IF I COULD JUST CLARIFY YOUR MOTION AS TO WHAT DIRECTION YOU'RE GIVING, ARE YOU SPEAKING TO NUMBER FIVE? CONSIDER DIRECTING THE CEO TO PREPARE THE SUBSEQUENT HOUSING AUTHORITY. CORRECT BUDGET. THANK YOU. AND WHO SECONDED THAT? SUPERVISOR. KELSTROM. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. PASSES FIVE ZERO. AND THEN. WE ARE GOING TO ADJOURN AS THE SHASTA COUNTY HOUSING AUTHORITY. SUPERVISOR HARMON IS GETTING PUNCHY UP HERE. SO HERE WE GO. [Shasta County In-Home Supportive Services Public Authority Budget Hearing] ALL RIGHT. NOW WE'RE GOING TO RECONVENE AS THE SHASTA COUNTY IN-HOME SUPPORT SERVICES PUBLIC AUTHORITY. THIS BOARD DOES NOT GET ANY EXTRA COMPENSATION OR STIPEND ACTING AS THIS GOVERNING BODY. IS THERE ANY PUBLIC IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? THERE IS NO PUBLIC COMMENT FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. OPEN TIME CHAIR. OKAY. WITH THAT, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO REGULAR CALENDAR AND THEN OUR ONE MISS BURTON. WELCOME BACK. THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIR CRYE, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD AND DEPUTY COUNTY EXECUTIVE OFFICER. BEFORE YOU, AS A RECOMMENDED BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 2526 FOR IN-HOME SUPPORTIVE SERVICES, THE RECOMMENDED BUDGET IS MOSTLY CONSISTENT WITH THE BUDGET FOR PRIOR YEARS, WITH A COUPLE OF NOTABLE CHANGES. THE DEPARTMENT HAS ANALYZED THE POSITIONS THAT ARE ACTUALLY WORKING IN THIS BUDGET, AND HAS REDUCED THE BUDGET FOR SALARY AND BENEFITS BASED ON THIS COST. IN ADDITION, THE DEPARTMENT RECOGNIZED THAT THE MAINTENANCE OF EFFORT FOR THIS BUDGET WOULD BE BETTER USED TO FUND DIRECT BENEFITS TO THE CLIENTS. AS A RESULT, THE GENERAL FUND CONTRIBUTION WAS MOVED FROM THIS BUDGET TO THE 541 BUDGET. [06:15:05] THIS MONEY WILL STILL BE SPENT ON THE SERVICES PROVIDED THROUGH THIS PROGRAM. I'M HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME, AND STAFF FROM HHS ARE ALSO IN ATTENDANCE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. MISS BLANKENSHIP IS ALL CORRESPONDENCE ON FILE WITH THE CLERK OF THE BOARD. YES. ANY CORRESPONDENCE RECEIVED FOR THIS MATTER IS ON FILE AND AVAILABLE FOR PUBLIC INSPECTION. AND JUST TO CONFIRM, THERE ARE NO REQUESTS TO SPEAK FOR THIS ITEM. OKAY, SO WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR R ONE. I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE AND CONSIDER DIRECTING COUNTY EXECUTIVE TO PREPARE SUBSEQUENT IN HOME. SECONDED BY SUPERVISOR LONG. ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. PASSES FIVE ZERO. WE ARE GOING TO ADJOURN AS THE IN-HOME SUPPORT SERVICES PUBLIC AUTHORITY AND RECONVENE AS THE SHASTA COUNTY WATER AGENCY. [Shasta County Water Agency Budget Hearing] AND LET ME GUESS. YES. AARON BURTON, COME ON UP. DO WE HAVE TO TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT? YES. THIS THIS AGENDA DOES HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT OPEN TIME. SO I CAN CONFIRM IN JUST ONE SECOND IF WE HAVE ANY AND WE DO NOT. I DIDN'T SEE ANYBODY IN THE ROOM. SO SO WE CAN MOVE ON TO REGULAR CALENDAR SCHEDULE HERE. OKAY. ONCE AGAIN, GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIR CRYE. MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. AARON BURTON, DEPUTY COUNTY EXECUTIVE OFFICER. BEFORE YOU IS THE RECOMMENDED BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 2526 FOR THE WATER AGENCY. THE RECOMMENDED BUDGET IS CONSISTENT WITH THE BUDGET FOR PRIOR YEARS WITH NO MATERIAL CHANGES. I'D BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME. STAFF FROM PUBLIC WORKS ARE PRESENT TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO SUPERVISOR PLUMMER. I DID HAVE ONE QUESTION ON THIS ONE, WHICH WAS THE SPECIAL DEPARTMENTAL EXPENSE. AND I SAW THAT THAT. AARON TROY WAS HOPING YOU WOULD ASK SOMETHING. WELL THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO LET ROCHELLE ANSWER THAT QUESTION BECAUSE SHE DOES ALL THE MONEY STUFF. SO HELLO. ROCHELLE KOSKI, CFO, PUBLIC WORKS. YES, THAT IS BEING INCREASED. WE HAVE A, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ACRONYM STANDS FOR, AN E, A GSAGSP5 YEAR UPDATE THAT'S NEEDED NEXT YEAR. SO WE DID INCREASE THAT BUDGET TO ACCOUNT FOR THAT. I ENTERPRISE ANDERSON GROUNDWATER SUSTAINABILITY. YES. AND I CAN EXPLAIN THIS CONSORTIUM. WE BELONG TO THE UPDATED ONCE EVERY FIVE YEARS. AND THEY MONITOR KEEP TRACK OF OUR AQUIFERS AND GROUNDWATER IN THE BASIN. AND THEY DO A GREAT JOB. THEY SHOW THAT WE HAVE A HEALTHY AQUIFER. OUR AQUIFERS ARE HEALTHY. AND THAT'S WHAT'S KEEPING US OUT OF THE SAME PROBLEMS THAT THEY'RE HAVING DOWN IN TEHAMA COUNTY. SO THIS IS THIS IS FOR THE PLANNING PROCESS. YES. IT'S ACTUALLY WE HIRE A THIRD PARTY CONSULTANT. ALL OF US GET TOGETHER AND ACTUALLY PAY SOMEONE TO TAKE CARE OF THIS STUDY. AND IT GETS UPDATED, I BELIEVE, EVERY FIVE YEARS. OKAY. THANK YOU. YEAH. THANK YOU. SUPERVISOR. PLUMMER. THANK YOU, MR. BARTOLOMEI. WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. MISS BLANKENSHIP, IS THERE ANY CORRESPONDENCE ON FILE WITH THE CLERK OF THE BOARD. ANY CORRESPONDENCE, ANY CORRESPONDENCE RECEIVED IS ON FILE WITH THE CLERK OF THE BOARD. IT'S AVAILABLE FOR PUBLIC INSPECTION UPON REQUEST, AND I CAN CONFIRM THAT WE DO NOT HAVE ANY REQUEST TO SPEAK FOR THIS ITEM. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND. MOTION BY SUPERVISOR KELSTROM. SECONDED BY SUPERVISOR PLUMMER. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. PASSES FIVE ZERO. ALL RIGHT. WE ARE GOING TO ADJOURN AS THE WATER AGENCY, AND WE ARE GOING TO RECONVENE AS THE SHASTA COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS. MISS BLANKENSHIP, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS AGENDA FOR THIS MEETING THAT STARTED ON MONDAY THAT'S LEFT TO BE DONE? NO, CHAIR, I'M JUST HAPPY NOT TO DO ANOTHER CONTINUANCE NOTICE. YES. CEO RICKERT NO ADDITIONAL COMMENT, MR. CHAIRMAN. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MISS WEBER, FOR YOUR INVOLVEMENT. IT WAS FANTASTIC. WITH THAT, WE ARE ADJOURNED. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.